Weekend Thread 18 April 2020

So how is the Far Left Biased BBC going to report the second 3 week closure of the UK – courtesy of the People’s Republic of China ? Will worship of the NHS and condemnation of the government intensify ? Or will it find another bone to chew ?

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466 Responses to Weekend Thread 18 April 2020

  1. Celtic_Mist says:

    The BBC did a ‘little extra’ story about an 8 yr old BME girl supporting the NHS by making 3D printed PPE gear.

    The story could just as easily have been –

    ‘NHS exploits BAME children to manufacture PPE”

    but that would go against the present narrative

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  2. pugnazious says:

    ‘She’s wrong. Medically wrong. Dangerously wrong. As a critical care physician, I can say from both clinical experience and from scientific literature, courage in illness matters. It matters for survival. ‘

    The Bien Pensant have a new and fashionable way of signalling their virtuous status to the world and ensuring that their fellow like-minded pious posturers can give them that little nod of approval they so desperately crave in recognition of a fellow traveller.

    Emily Maitlis perfectly exemplifies the attitude as she adopted a high moral tone to lecture the nation in a highly political statement recently in which she dismissed Boris Johnson’s battle to survive the coronavirus as nonsense…

    ”The language around Covid-19 has sometimes felt trite and misleading. You do not survive the illness through fortitude and strength of character, whatever the Prime Minister’s colleagues will tell us.’

    That’s just nonsense in itself…it’s well establised that people do ‘fight’ disease and injuries and that others do just give up ‘the fight’ and go peacefully on their way. Others ‘fight’ but lose the battle, others come out as survivors.

    Of course the narrative behind the Maitlis mantra is an adaption of the ‘everyone must have prizes’…no-one must be made to feel like they’ve lost or not done their best.

    The Guardian lays out the thinking perfectly…

    ‘Rachael Bland died yesterday. The 40-year-old Radio 5 Live broadcaster’s life came to an end because she had triple-negative breast cancer – one of the toughest forms of the disease to treat. Her employer, the BBC, first announced her death on its news website by telling readers that she had “lost her battle with cancer”. Mail Online and countless others also reported on the battle, with some ringing the changes to suggest she had lost her fight.

    Thankfully, the Guardian reported simply that she had died after transforming the conversation around the illness.

    if anything still needs changing it’s the notion that having cancer is a battle, as if those who die are losers, while people such as me – still thankfully alive a few years after treatment – are triumphant. It suggests that people such as Rachael were somehow not up to the task of dealing with her illness – a defeated soldier if you like, unlike those of us still trudging across the cancer war zone, scarred physically by surgery and the taking of powerful drugs, and scarred emotionally by the fact we’ve had an illness that could yet come back and kill us.’

    Now that’s totally dishonest…for a start Rachel Bland did fight for her life and struggled hard to accomplish things during her illness and didn’t just give up and fade away. To dismiss her efforts in the way the Guardian does is highly insulting and dishonest but you can see the narrative…if you die you’re somehow a loser.

    That narrative is completely debunked by Rachel Bland’s efforts…she did die but no-one at all said she was a loser…everyone praised her for her courage..her own family said she had been courageous…and yet the Guardian scoffs at that and demeans her. The notion that someone has fought a disease does not cast any aspersion on any other person…the Guardian somewhat paradoxically also claims if you die without ‘fighting’, though not sure how they know, what are the qualifications for that?, you are looked on as a loser. Not true at all. I’m sure no-one thinks anything like that when someone dies of cancer or heart disease…respect and sorrow are the more likely emotions….just not in the Guardianista worldview where everyone is nasty. Perhaps accepting your fate and not grumbling and carrying on quietly without fanfare or applause fully in the knowledge you are dying is courageous too.

    Those who like to try and shape the world to their own moral compass are using this as their new battleground, their new weapon of choice that they hope gives them the high moral ground allowing them to vilify, denigrate and denounce their enemies as they constantly redefine what is acceptable thinking…just another version of calling someone a racist in order to silence them and make them ‘untouchable’ in decent society.

    Nick Robinson is on the bandwagon….

    ‘Cancer is not a battle.

    There is no choice whether to fight let alone whether to win or lose.

    No amount of courage no measure of cowardice can decide the outcome.

    There is no virtue in survival. Certainly no lack of it in death.

    I lived.

    You now know that you will not.

    Luck. Chance. Fate. Nothing more. Nothing less.’

    Utter baloney….for a start good health care helps, and the decision to begin treatment is a major step, one that will definitely have a dramatic effect on the outcome….choose life, the possibility of life, or choose not to be treated and accept the death. Many do refuse treatment…so you do have a choice but it doesn’t make you a winner or a loser. No-one denigrates those who choose not to take the treatment…they have weighed up all the costs, all the downsides and all the possible benefits and made their choice based on their own life and wishes…The likes of Robinson, Maitlis and the Guardian’s finest are in fact, ironically, marking such people as losers…they’re saying ‘Shut up, don’t draw attention to these people, don’t mention they’re losers, don’t upset them’….thus labelling them losers when of course they are anything but.

    When someone accepts the disease as their fate they are usually praised for their courageous and stoic attitude, when someone decides to ‘battle’ the disease and go through the often tortuous treatment they may be called courageous as well….The Guardian and fellow travellers are just wrong in this.

    In The Spectator Dr Matt Strauss states about Maitlis’ outburst….

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-courage-is-king-in-the-fight-against-coronavirus

    ‘She’s wrong. Medically wrong. Dangerously wrong. As a critical care physician, I can say from both clinical experience and from scientific literature, courage in illness matters. It matters for survival. ‘

    Guess he would know more than a dippy, prejudiced virtue signalling BBC presenter [can’t call her a journalist]

    He continues…

    ‘Statistical evidence for the relationship between hope, purpose, and survival abounds. Depressed heart attack patients are four times more likely to die than their non-depressed counterparts. Men who lose their wives are 17 per cent more likely to die in the following five years than men who have not (somewhat awkwardly, the corresponding number was only six per cent for women who lost their husbands.) Homebound elders who report feeling ‘rarely’ hopeful are 50 per cent more likely to die than those who feel ‘often’ hopeful.

    For an illness like Covid-19, where the only real treatment is supplemental oxygen and time, hope and courage are all the more critical. Which brings us to Boris. Can anyone question that the leader of a great nation, in a time of global catastrophe, with a young pregnant partner at home, is going to be anything less than cataclysmically motivated to keep breathing? I do not think the producers of BBC Newsnight can find one critical care physician or nurse who will say that such things don’t matter. ‘

    Maitlis is an extraordinarily bigoted and prejudiced woman with an overwhelming need to hector and lecture us lesser beings, calling down from the mountain to point out our failings and general badness.

    Quite ironic I suppose that people such as Maitlis who adopt this stance, this pious pretence, of defending the weak, decrying what they claim is demeaning or belittling words, are so prepared to demean and belittle anyone who doesn’t think like them….Brexit voters for instance…all stupid, uneducated, ignorant racists and bigots in Maitlis’ world….or indeed people who think you can fight illness and disease.

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    • Banania says:

      Fighting is bad; the very word can trigger vulnerable people. It is what soldiers do – Oh, “soldier”, another bad word!

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  3. Oldspeaker says:

    Incendiary piece of hacksterism here,
    BBC News – Coronavirus cases to be tracked by ethnicity
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52338101
    “”worried personal protective equipment was being “prioritised for white members of staff”.”
    Stoking up racial tension at a time of crisis? Evidence? This claim should be thoroughly investigated by the media watchdog.
    Same piece contains a quote from
    ” An undertaker from London, who asked to be anonymous,” anonymous like the NHS ‘boss’ maybe?

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  4. Darcy3 says:

    F2 seems like you are spot on, the latest bbc whinge

    always the victims, of course playing cricket in parks during lockdown or having a gang fight in a Luton street during lockdown etc etc has nothing to do with this, or having three generations crammed into one house

    reaping the consequences of a “cultural need” for their oft quoted “kommuni h ie”

    and all the taxi drivers stuck in the ranks together now the childrens homes and schools are closed in Rotherham

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  5. Doobster78 says:

    Labour , point scoring activist caught out AGAIN !!!!!

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    • StewGreen says:

      That totally non-political nurse has locked down her Twitter account
      Maybe cos some people exposed her political history.

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      • Deborah says:

        Sadly the Daily Mail on line has this nurse’s story without telling their readers that she is a Labour political activist.

        I am sure much of these anti government stories are as a result of people voting for the Conservatives and for Brexit. The stupid BBC and mainstream press haven’t realised their propaganda doesn’t work. (Evidence, the last election and Brexit).

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  6. Northern Voter says:

    Mrs Voter was watching Celebrity Mastermind (not that I recognised one apart from the BAME woman, that played rugby and is now part of the BBC ), anyway during the general knowledge round Humphries asks, Which record failed to make number one during Donald Trump’s visit to the UK. The answer was of course American Idiot, apparently the beeb didn’t ring up often enough.

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  7. Darcy3 says:

    Since the bbc need to lever into mastermind and, even more bizzarely, countryside programmes, with BAME can we ask why they are not demanding the 100 metre dash and boxing world are not filled with under represented white people ?

    looking at their requirements for other occupations there should be at least 50% white people in each 100 metre dash and boxing match regardless of their competence

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    • Darcy3 says:

      Regarding competence and ability I am thinking for example of a Naga who is routinely rude and arrogant and opinionated to co presenters and makes derogatory comments about Brexit and the democratically elected president of the USA whilst working for a supposed professional and unbiased national broadcaster

      fireproof, of course as many incompetent BAME I have seen in local government and elsewhere, even admitted by their managers as recipients of public complaints about sexism and bullying, so about time we had a fireproof white 100 metre champion ?

      It is all about equality is it not..hmmmm

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      • Darcy3 says:

        The theory runs that Mexico does not do too well in the Olympics because anyone who can run, jump or swim is now in the USA

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       21 likes

  9. Guest Who says:

    Because they can?

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  10. smoogie7 says:

    BBC Scotland being called out by Scottish Tories for SNP bias.

    Funny how the BBC giving the locally ruling SNP an easy ride but not the nationally ruling Tories.

    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-tories-make-bbc-complaint-21881408

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  11. Darcy3 says:

    It would be interesting if Brexit was followed by Joxit

    Let the little gnome get on with it, like Corbyn, very good at sniping from the sidelines

    and trying to steal the march on the government by making announcements just before them, pathetic, a national emergency and one can see the true mettle of all, including politicians and the bbc

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  12. Guest Who says:

    Gotta be impressed.

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    • Northern Voter says:

      So that would be 66% are not essential, and are just going in to make up the numbers, that would be the numbers for diversity, race, religion and sexual bias.

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  13. Darcy3 says:

    FFS the person most likely to be off sick … a wimmin, the person thst costs the economy millions through maternity leave requiring a company to pay her to have a baby (Why?) and have to pay her salary whilst she has a baby AND employ another person to do her job yet have to allow her to come back if she chooses ?? so can only offer a nine month contract and try and find someone willing to take that on with no guarantee of future employment until the wimmin decides whether she will come back or not which is ONE WEEK before the end of her maternity pay

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    • Burgsey says:

      Darcy, I don’t agree with your comments, but do agree with the outcome. Women should have the right to have babies and a career (just like Loretta from Life of Brian). However, the women’s right lobby have tended to undermine their own position as employers are often reluctant to employ younger women to key posts “just in case”, so it ends up being a no win situation for all parties. They just use an alternative excuse not to employ (e.g. poor interview).

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      • Darcy3 says:

        Of course you have the right to agree or disagree, ufortunately though, Its not an opinion you are disagreeing with, it is a fact

        Survey Reveals More Women Take Time Off Sick than Men

        The European Health Interview Survey has revealed a ‘sickie gender gap’ with results noting 36% of women compared to 27% of men have taken sick leave from work in the last year.

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  14. Doobster78 says:

    Well said Laurie. Well said ????

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  15. Guest Who says:

    They don’t learn, do they?

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  16. BRISSLES says:

    I’m not on Twitter, but was sent this on WhatsApp…….

    @mattbicky….
    As a lorry driver, Thursday I turned up at a hospital 3.45 unable to unload as stores shut 3.30pm They weren’t open Friday when I took it back. A truck load of PPE undelivered cos stores were shut. Suppose that’s Boris fault too.

    Stories like this never get reported. Funny that.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Source note it’s date April 12
      He’d tweeted the same thing 3 times the day before but got ignored
      He seems a genuine lorry driver cos over the years he has mentioned it.

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      • StewGreen says:

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  17. taffman says:

    “Coronavirus: Domestic electricity use up during day as nation works from home”……………
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52331534
    The broadcasting outfit is run by kids .
    A Non-story . Telling us the bleeding obvious.
    They must have had orders to fill any news item and link it with Coronavirus?

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  18. davylars says:

    Haven’t posted one of these for a while.
    But just to remind Roger that 16% renewables leaves a massive shortfall in electricity production even in these testing times.
    Where are we supposed to get the other 84% by 2050…
    Answers BBC….

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    • Northern Voter says:

      Some enterprising person will develop a small generator that can be powered by a person pedalling a bicycle, hang on that’s been done, maybe two people on a tandem would work better. Perhaps jug ears and Cressida (Iwishihada)Dick could do the work.

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      • Nodding Dog says:

        Why stop at two NV
        Is a Shame Tim Brooke=Taylor recently passed away or we could’ve asked The Goodies to get their trandem out.tandem_bike_by_davidjasdero_d322ftn-250t.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9Mzk1IiwicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNjMzZDMwMTEtMzBjNS00OGFiLWFkZGYtNWRjMDRhZWU2YjRkXC9kMzIyZnRuLWQyNzBlNGFiLWNiMjAtNDVkNy1hZDA3LThlYzUyODZmMWY3Ni5qcGciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9NTc2In1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmltYWdlLm9wZXJhdGlvbnMiXX0.ysnFEyNZWNInCAPWe5wJCRmg7SixszAw8gpKmIuQI5k

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    • StewGreen says:

      Bottom left
      IC Ned and IC Nem (Belgium Interconnector) are probably sending us *Coal* and gas powered leccy
      IC France is mostly nuclear

      Why’s Biomass low ?
      shouldn’t Drax be doing its normal dirty burning of American logs ?
      I know the Immingham train track is under repair, but they have trains from the west coast ports as well

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  19. taffman says:

    Are the Dutch going through the birth pains of leaving the EU?
    https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/04/french-and-german-ambassadors-urge-dutch-to-support-the-eu

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  20. Guest Who says:

    Bunter reads the room. Goes worse than usual, even for him.

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  21. StewGreen says:

    On twitter libmob are loving the Sunday Times hit piece against Boris
    *ONE Downing Street advisor spills all*,
    ‘ Coronovirus is all the fault of lazy Boris skipping meetings’

    “A lot of people are going to suspect that the Sunday Times hit piece on Boris and Covid (will read it in full tomorrow to make a judgment on it) is leftover business from the departure of Sajid Javid and his team from No11 Downing Street.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Are the MSM so bubble-headed that they think each other fluffing themselves is the least bit convincing or influential as their readerships and audience stats continue to plummet?

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  22. Sluff says:

    The BBC are disgracefully playing the race card with the allegation that BAME people are proportionally harder hit than whiteys.i

    What selective memories they have.
    They are far more reticent to review transplant and organ donation rates. As given by none other than…….the NHS !!!!
    These show BAME offer proportionately fewer donations and receive more transplants than white people.

    But just imagine a journalist from the BBC playing that particular race card !!!! It’s never going to happen is it? In BBC la la land, racism is only ever one-way.

    Click to access organ-donation-and-transplantation-bame-activity-report-2018-2019.pdf

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  23. taffman says:

    “Cornish dad bakes pasty the size of his newborn son”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-52327592
    I posted similar earlier . Another non-story published by an outfit run by kids .
    Thats what you telly tax payers are funding.

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  24. taffman says:

    \\Firms ‘won’t be ready for EU customs exit’//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52287926
    It looks like ‘Project Fear is back on the agenda.

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  25. StewGreen says:

    BrowningGate
    The story fell apart when Simon Browning put his source Paul Durrands on the news at 1pm Fri, repeated 2pm and 4:30 pm
    and some people realised that he wasn’t an NHS Trust manager at all

    4:37pm BBCNews Channel
    – A senior health expert says he feels ashamed when NHS staff aren’t able to access enough personal protective equipment.
    Paul Durrands asked the bbc to put him in contact with the fashion company Burberry, which has switched production to make PPE for health care workers.

    Simon Browning reports. It is situation critical.
    “NHS hospitals are running out of vital gowns to protect staff and patients.
    Yesterday, one NHS doctor contacted me to say the situation was so bad at his hospitals that are connected directly to the fact that gowns.
    Durrands “I saw on the website that the manufacturing gowns, and my local health care system is very short of gowns.
    I wanted to get a name and a contact, so (I phoned you) to see if you had a name of someone I could talk to to get some gowns. ”

    SB “Paul Durrands is a specialist in PPE.
    He has worked in government setting up supply chains before they were changed, and this has caused problems. before they were changed

    PD “I feel a sense of shame.
    If OUR staff turn up on shift and the PPE isn’t in the cupboard, it’s just not good enough.”

    SB “Just this morning the situation experienced by Dr Paul Durrands and HIS hospital colleagues was acknowledged by the Health Secretary. …….there has definitely been a shortage of the last few weeks and no one can deny that. we are on it..

    “the demand for ppe in the uk has revealed just how small and fractured the uk supply chain is, and after decades of moving production overseas to chase cheaper costs uk factories that are left are doing all they can to help. ”

    …blah blah Burberry ..

    https://archive.org/details/BBCNEWS_20200417_120000_BBC_News_at_One/start/474/end/534?q=paul+durrands
    To see the blocks of transcript move the slider at the bottom of the page to the right

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  26. StewGreen says:

    Nobel 2008 virologist Luc Montagnier says “Covid 19” man made …. (given Wuhan lab designed / part built by France it seems a brave thing to do….. )

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  27. StewGreen says:

    I’ve made out this list of natural, good and inclusive things vs. things that are unnatural, wrong and fascist.
    thread

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  28. Celtic_Mist says:

    BBC ‘fact checking’

    They don’t seem to realise how stupid this looks –

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    • gb123 says:

      If this is the exact way the fact check was written it deserves to be nit picked a la BBC. the “-” looks like a negative to the casual readers eyes. Are they saying the US has negative deaths? Are they comparing births to deaths?
      I am deliberately using the kind of dumb questioning headlines so often used by the BBC. Maybe I could get a job in the headline straw man department.

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  29. ScottishCalvin says:

    This week’s doodle and thoughts from the basement. Maybe I should set up a gofundme if anyone wants to sponsor me to walk to the wine rack and back 100 times.

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  30. Celtic_Mist says:

    A Guardian opinion piece asserted
    “Media scrutiny of No 10’s Covid strategy is more important than ever”

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/commentisfree/2020/mar/29/coronavirus-parliament-media-newspapers-coronavirus

    It’s surprising that the Times would do it but apparently it needs headlines to survive

    The BBC is also trying to discredit the government even when it is finacially secure

    I’m confused, does the BBC really want to be defunded?
    Maybe because ratings are falling it thinks it can do better elsewhere?

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    • Guest Who says:

      Ranks have been broken.

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    • Guest Who says:

      And here is Jon-boy’s little helper… not doing irony.

      #CCBGB

      But at least he’s in with a chance with the BS next time she’s on lay-over.

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      • Celtic_Mist says:

        Guest,

        I have a complaint in with the BBC over Nick’s tweets.

        However, and I don’t think this is widely known, BBC complaints appear to have suspended the normal procedure, 1a & 1b etc, and are not escalating to ECU quoting staffing problems due to covid.

        I’ve asked them that question but haven’t heard back yet

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        • Guest Who says:

          “So, class of ‘20… you have a binary choice of career: NHS Procurement Officer or BBC ECU. Choose wisely”.

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    • Celtic_Mist says:

      Sopel and his friends haven’t a leg to stand on after this 40 year NHS scientist has replied –

      [In any case, Prof Neil Ferguson didn’t have the data from Italy until 16 March that, with his models, predicted the looming catastrophe, and caused the UK and US to immediately change their ‘Herd’ strategy saving millions of lives]

      [I’m no fan of ‘climate models’, however, in this application of statistical modeling techniques the results of the Italian ‘model’ (or experiment) were observable]

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    • Guest Who says:

      Nick #sourceswhosay Nob finds it ‘powerful’.

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  31. Scroblene says:

    I think we should all have a ‘Clap for hypochondriacs’ day next Thursday!

    Non-covid admissions have plummeted because a certain crowd of ‘victims’ are scared of going to hospital!

    In other news, the BBC still spout fake news, ‘quote’ un-checked statistics, show more rubbishy programmes than they ever did before, and generally make fools of themselves…

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  32. Guest Who says:

    So is VD. Apparently.

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  33. StewGreen says:

    Charles Moore’s article about Boris has caused lots of libmob to react in their #BeKind way.

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  34. Non Snowflake says:

    Just a thought, but if the bBBC is correct and BAME’s are (statistically) more prone to catch COVID-19 than normal people, then does that mean that we should all avoid BAME’s at all costs from now on?

    EG keep 2 metres from them, don’t interract with them, don’t face them in case they breathe the virus onto us, don’t invite them into the house, don’t get into a car with them, don’t let them near our children, and definitely stop auditioning them for TV commercials.

    Although I’m sure there must be a down side as well.

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  35. Foscari says:

    We all know that the WHO is under the control of China.
    But do we know whom exactly controls the BBC ?
    We know that whatever disaster overtakes the World the
    BBC’S number one priority is still diversity.
    From making sure there is at least one diverse contestant
    on Celebrity Mastermind . Even if they cant answer questions
    on their specialist subject, such as the one times table.
    All the way up to not putting the blame on China for hiding
    the early stages of the disease to the world.
    The more I think about it , the more I believe that those in the
    hierarchy of the BBC have similar affiliation to those at the top
    of the WHO.

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    • Celtic_Mist says:

      Foscari,

      That’s an easy one, Ofcom, who like the media and most institutions have been taken over by leftist activists

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    • G says:

      Fos,
      Whatever, the BBC’s role is to disrupt and condemn normality by undermining everything. That is the overriding principal goal of Marxism. A handy tool for the chinese communist party, well schooled in those techniques.

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  36. Guest Who says:

    The BBC’s latest irony editor in lock down.

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  37. Darcy3 says:

    F@ck islamophobia whingers:

    Prosecutor reveals how one teenage girl was grilled by 11 barristers for six days and called a liar – but refused to back down and laid bare the horror of Asian rape gangs

    A car door was flung open and the two girls were pushed out into the darkness. They fell awkwardly on to the moorland heather as the vehicle accelerated away and the tail-lights disappeared into the night.

    The girls grabbed each other, huddling together, frozen in fear. After several minutes, when they were sure the car wasn’t coming back, they looked across the barren landscape of Saddleworth Moor towards the lights of civilisation blinking faintly in the distance. Then they began the long 14-mile walk back to town.

    It was a little after 8.30 the next morning when Sara Rowbotham parked her car outside the sexual health support service she ran in Rochdale, ten miles north-east of Manchester.

    As she stepped out of the vehicle, she saw the two shivering girls sitting on the steps

    They had made it back and had been waiting there for hours. Before being dumped on the moors the night before, both had been violently raped by several men.

    As a crisis intervention co-ordinator for the NHS, it was Rowbotham’s work with vulnerable young girls that had begun to shed light on a series of horrific crimes happening in the Rochdale area.

    The reports she presented to the authorities told of a sickening epidemic of sexual abuse.

    She relayed details of teenage girls being plied with alcohol and coerced into unprotected sexual intercourse with multiple men, many of whom were more than 30 years older than them.

    She also told of underage girls being threatened and picked up in car parks and taken to houses across the town, where they would be passed around dozens of men.

    In one case, a man in his 40s poured petrol on the head of a 14-year-old girl with learning difficulties and threatened to set her alight unless she performed a sex act on him.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8233353/NAZIR-AFZAL-teenage-girl-refused-laid-bare-horror-Asian-rape-gangs.html

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Would be nice to know the names of the defence barristers in these cases and whether they are related to the ‘ defendants ‘ wouldn’t it ?

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  38. Celtic_Mist says:

    I was shocked at Boris’s ‘police state’ but am now thinking that it was a precursor to silencing the media, the BBC in particular.

    Don’t forget, Dominic Cummings, as with Brexit, will have ‘gamed’ this.

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gametheory.asp

    Come to think of it, I should have a look at his blog

    https://dominiccummings.com/

    Is there not already a cross party committe of moderates?

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    • Celtic_Mist says:

      During WW2 wasn’t the national socialist fascist Mosley locked up

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/84/a1144784.shtml

      How ironic

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      • Celtic_Mist says:

        Remember Cummings –

        ‘Two hands are a lot’ — we’re hiring data scientists, project managers, policy experts, assorted weirdos…

        It’s all beginning to make sense

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        CM- “He ended his life as a good Socialist”
        So this is really the fairy-tale ending beloved by the bbc.
        Never mind ‘lived happily ever after’, which is the little one’s version.
        The beeb feeds its own little ones fairy tales all the time.
        At a cost. Oh, and I suspect that financially, they’re doing rather well right now….

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  39. Guest Who says:

    Wimmin! More wimmin!

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  40. Guest Who says:

    BBC QasaHeadline News

    Has the coronavirus led to a change in your drinking habits?

    ***

    #CCBGB

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  41. StewGreen says:

    FA fact sheet on Ramadan

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    • john in cheshire says:

      We’re supposed to be a Christian country. Why should we even know about Ram Damn let alone care about it?

         3 likes

  42. StewGreen says:

    NHS guide
    How can we support colleagues during Ramadan and Eid-ul-Fitr?
    How does COVID-19 and social distancing impact Muslims?

       7 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Scunthorpe Ramadan preparations ?

      Sheep stealing was reported on the early Radio Humberside news. tweet
      but then for some reason they dropped it

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      • StewGreen says:

        “The incident came just two days after police discovered an illegal abattoir at a house in the Telford, Shropshire.
        Police there arrested seven men, also for theft”
        https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-shropshire-52332756

        The theft of nearly 10,000 sheep across England and Wales last year has only resulted in one charge by police, the BBC can reveal.
        A Freedom of Information request showed 9,635 sheep were stolen in 2018

        https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-47409199

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        • madandbad101 says:

          Ah but if you mis-label an LBGT person they will be round before you can make a cup of tea !!

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      • Fedup2 says:

        On the Halal theme – I have to go on the Facebook now because my church is broadcasting mass on it . I have no presence on Facebook other wise and naturally all the details I had to put on it are lies …
        Anyway -whilst navigating to my RC mass Facebook sent me to the “halal food exhibition ‘ which apparently is on this weekend . There are pictures of large numbers of people at the festival – presumably watching live unstunned mammals having their throats cut .

        A bit alarmed – because twitter is showing plenty of queues of 3rd worlders waiting at the halal supermarkets nearby – I had a look —-
        It seems said halal show has been put off until July – there will be full BBC presence with tips is slaughtering animals at home – ( the last bit might be a bit of false news but I don’t watch country tick box file anymore so don’t know… )

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      • StewGreen says:

        The sheep story did get reported on the 12pm news

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      Did we get any Easter support – apart from don’t buy eggs?

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  43. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC: “Long spell of dry weather set to continue”

    I’m inclined to say yeah, that’ll be the summer.

    But blimey, that headline does read as oddly portentious. The BBC have got us all into such a state of fearful, resentful, paranoia that even a simple positive statement of a decent weather forecast sounds ominous.

    “…set to continue…”

    Oh no, is a draught on the way? Is this a trigger to panic buy bottled water?

    Christ, what are the social distancing implications of water rationing from standpipes?

    What will get us first, global warming or the Chinese virus?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-52333565

    “It is now a full month since Northern Ireland last recorded a single day with more than one centimetre of rain.”

    Oh, the humanity…. I really don’t know if I can take it anymore. I may have to jump out of a window. (Don’t worry, I’m on the ground floor).

    “Would be revellers at the cancelled St Patrick’s Day parades on 17 March would have been dodging showers as many places across Northern Ireland recorded 10-15mm of rain that day. Since then, almost nothing.”

    Cue the theme to the Twilight Zone… it’s a weird little shamrock green mystery. Perhaps the leprechauns have been messing about at their end of the rainbow?

    Don’t even think about cracking that old joke about the Irish beating the draught by diluting the stuff.

    “February 2020 was the wettest February since 1862.”

    Quick, get hold of the Guinness Book of Records! They’ve got plenty of time to look into this claim since they won’t be making much Guinness at the moment.

    “A high pressure system is sitting over Scandinavia and building towards Ireland this weekend which means the third week in April looks set to be similarly parched.”

    Phew, there’s a scientific explanation – but what if we all get “parched” ? Get me out of here, I don’t want to be parched!

    It’s like the Daleks have landed and are imposing fine weather on humans “You will obey the Daleks or you will be parched”

    “We may not be able to enjoy the fine weather to the full, but we certainly deserve it.”

    Ah there you get it right at the end of the article, that typical old BBC trick of reimposing the primitive ancient way of thinking that there’s a relationship between our moral behaviour and the mood of the weather gods.

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      Weather at the beginning of Jugears Marr’s propaganda programme today and the (undoubtedly overpaid) presenter tells us that April showers doesn’t seem to be occurring this year. Dopey cow probably can’t recall March, as if a few weeks time shift is unknown. I’m under Southern Water so I looked at their reservoir levels online. They vary between ….wait for it…

      99% and 100% so no drought likely yet.

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      • Lefty Wright says:

        AsISeeIt
        And finally……………………. The BBC has learned that 60 million British people did NOT die from the corona virus this week which for us in the newsroom is something of a disappointment.
        Goodnight.

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  44. Eddy Booth says:

    World is getting like a Black Mirror episode..
    Everyone locked up by a kindly government .,.for their own safety.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52341728?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/europe&link_location=live-reporting-story
    Coronavirus: Spanish PM promises to ease confinement of children
    Children have been barred from going outside their homes completely.
    Spanish children have been kept at home since 14 March

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  45. Tabs says:

    Andrew Marr is interviewing David Attenborough. Usual end of the world is nigh stuff.

    Two interesting BBC moments, but you had to wait until 90% of the interview/scare was done.
    1. David Attenborough clarified that the nature and the planet will always survive but “we need to protect mankind”. An interesting change of tactics from the “world is on fire” just a few months ago.
    2. Marr tried to suggest the planet has a concious and is punishing us with Coronovirus.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Tabs
      Yes.Last year I swore at my roses because the buggers pricked me badly and shortly afterwards they all died. I guess I must have hurt their feelings.So Mr Marr could have a point.

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    • Kaiser says:

      dont remember marr pushing any gods punisment / gaia pushback theories for HIV

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    • StewGreen says:

      2. Marr tried to suggest the planet has a conscience and is punishing us with Coronovirus

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  46. Sluff says:

    On Toady Sunday in the newspaper review at 0810.

    The announcer mentioned in terms that the Daily/Sunday Express had chosen a headline to be positive and cheer us up a bit !!!!!

    The intense irony of this, the contrast, from a BBC announcer representing an institution that now only seeks to undermine and spread gloom and doom at every turn, must be obvious to all.

    Except the BBC management and editors, of course, for whom self-reflection is a non-starter.

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    • Van Helsing says:

      Sluff, take it from one who knows: vampires have no reflection, self or otherwise…

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  47. theleftwilleatitself says:

    One World: Together at Home tonight on the ‘world’s most trusted’ at 19:15 ????
    It’ll be pathetic lefty virtue-signalling nonsense implying we’re all in it together ????
    These twats, al beeb included, are so out of touch with the general public it is laughable ????
    23rd of April will be a year since we binned the telly tax (a date whose irony isn’t lost on this household) ????????????????????????????

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  48. pugnazious says:

    I listened to Edward Stourton‘telling the story of the BBC in the ”phoney war” of 1939-1940 and the period’s strange echoes of Covid-19 today.’ this morning and it was nothing less than a propaganda puff piece for the BBC telling us how trusted the BBC was during the war and thus is equally important today in this moment of coronavirus crisis…hmmm…I’ve read the mass observation reports and plenty of histories of the war and the BBC was not trusted and often scorned…the troops hated it as it often gave away information and seemed, what’s new, to be suspect in its sympathies….so, yeah, very like today.

    Stourton told us Churchill didn’t like the BBC but didn’t say why…perhaps because the BBC refused to have him on the airwaves in case he might upset Herr Hitler….so yes, the similarities with today are there…just not the ones the BBC would like to mention.

    The BBC, he told us, was the source everyone went to for trusted news…well, it was pretty much the only source especially over the airwaves….and indeed is today…it’s still extraordinarily dominant but more because it is free online whilst other sites are usually behind paywalls and with the radio being nationwide and easy to find it is obviously going to be the choice of most people around the country….more because it is there, free and easy to access than because it is ‘trusted’….bear in mind the BBC, along with some from ITV, supplies most local news with their news.

    ‘Under the existing regime, the BBC and ITV get guaranteed prominence in channel menus partly in exchange for their spending on local news output.’

    You can trust the BBC…honest….

    The BBC tells us Germany is doing 100,000 tests per day.

    In the real world..not true…50,000 a day.

    ‘The German Health Ministry has said that it is testing 300,000 people per week’

    The BBC headlines and fills the airwaves with scare-stories about the NHS having to wash and reuse PPE…

    In the real world Germany also says it may do this…

    ‘The health minister and the Robert Koch Institute now recommend that single-use masks be cleaned and reused when worse comes to worst.

    The BBC, on the 17th April told us testing for anti-bodies was essential to allow NHS workers to return to work as they would be known to be immune…

    ‘And not testing more widely means many people might be self-isolating for no reason, including NHS workers.

    Real world…next day the BBC is headlining with WHO telling us the tests mean nothing and don’t show immunity…

    ‘Hopes that coronavirus antibody tests could help the UK end its lockdown have been dealt a blow – after the World Health Organization questioned whether they offer any guarantee of immunity.

    The BBC also broadcast an obvious lie throughout the day when it reported, prominently, that the head of an NHS Trust had contacted them to ask if they could put him in touch with Burberry in regard to getting gowns as the Trust was running out of them.

    In the real world…a complete, and as said, obvious lie. Not only that but the BBC’s correction also lied and covered up as it claimed the story only came out early morning when it was all day and that the person contacting them was in fact working for a network of organisations that were trying to provide PPE to the NHS…so why did a BBC business journalist think this was the head of an NHS Trust? Presumably that was what he was told by a mischief maker…and he didn’t check. Who or what is this mysterious ‘network’? Why is it not named, why is the person not named? Is it because the BBC fell for a blatant black propaganda stunt more than likely originating from a Labour Party laptop?

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    • G says:

      Pug,
      Yes, this, ‘War time spirit’ the media often refers to suggesting that they had a leading role.
      My uncle (deceased) had a special role in the production of Hurricanes north of Bristol during the war. I recall him recounting that if the workers had no overtime, they simply jumped up and down on the wings to bend same so the planes failed final examination. Overtime! Hey Presto!

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  49. Fedup2 says:

    Wow – the PPE thing is going so well that Len Deighton has been appointed a ‘czar’ for it -joining the vaccine ‘ task force ‘ set up yesterday and due to meet sometime in 2021 or 2022. ( last bit might be false ) but I’ve lost me trust in them now ..

    I’m not affected by the propaganda because I don’t do mainstream ‘news ‘Or newspapers any more …. but – as an aside – HMG is sending out online surveys to assess the behaviour and views of the taxpayer including a little question about whether a government tracking app would be acceptable – as part of a ‘ deal ‘ to reduce the imprisonment they are putting us through .

    We’re gonna get a lot of ‘ second wave ‘ propaganda coming along soon to frighten us into staying in until July – or August -or September . …. that’s a lot of clapping ….

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    • theisland says:

      Fed
      It’s Lord Paul Deighton, the chief executive of the 2012 Olympic games (I had to look it up).
      Although a spy novelist might be preferable.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Theisland .
        Thank you but I knew . My humour was a bit too dry . I don’t use titles as I generally don’t believe in them . So Lenny Deighton it is for me .
        I wonder if he is shareholder in PPE companies …..
        I’m trying to guess what ‘czar’ is going to be appointed by some government drone at the next ‘ briefing ‘ …

        Maybe it’s a “ we re doing all that we can czar “ . Or a “clapping “ czar task force …..

        I think Sunday is Dom Raabs ‘ day . “ minister – if there s a lockdown why are there so many planes On finals toward Heathrow or stansted please ? They’re not PPE cargo Because some other country has nicked that …. “

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        • Sluff says:

          Fed
          It’s been suggested we may have some education announcements today or tomorrow……..

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        • theisland says:

          Sorry Fed – suspected you knew that.
          Sophy asked Gove about borders this morning.
          Apparently the ‘medics’ have decided it’s ok!!
          Priti says (again) she is going to deal with those naughty people smugglers and Channel hoppers.
          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-52338124
          Yeah right.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Theisland – no worry – I suppose that since the Emir of Londonistan has overseen daily herding of workers onto the tube having a few Italians , Spanish , Americans and Chinese coming into the UK without health checks is good enough .

            It does cause the validity of nazi styled plod shouting at people to ‘go home’ you’re killing people to be questioned –

            Also – does anyone have much trust in the medics any more ?

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  50. Tabs says:

    I only watch BBC News very occasionally over a weekend, at random times of day, with a cup of tea. But it seems every time I watch it they are always bashing Trump with some woman guest bitching about how bad he is “because he said 47 days ago….which is different to what he said 24 years ago…”.

    What is the chances that I seem to catch those Trump bashing moments every time?

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