Midweek Thread 22 April 2020

It’s a month to the day that Boris Johnson made his TV appearance announcing the ‘ lockdown ‘ and that ‘ people will die ‘ . Seems a long time ago . Since then the Biased BBC has been unrelenting in broadcasting bad news and criticism of the Government . We can but dread what effect this has had on the mental health of the UK .

Today is a big day for the Far Left BBC . It is Lenin’s birthday . Taxpayer funded Champagne For the comrades in Broadcasting House .

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644 Responses to Midweek Thread 22 April 2020

  1. StewGreen says:

    Those people who complain Boris didn’t call a lockdown early enough

    Do they ever mention that had already been locked down themselves for weeks ?
    If they really do more that the government as they claim they would have been.
    They were free to start their lockdown any time they wanted.

       28 likes

    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      But Stew, they wanted government handouts first.

         20 likes

    • Darcy3 says:

      Didn’t stop our local benefit families ignoring advice not to receive visits on Mothers Day, they were bussing them in

         10 likes

  2. fakenewswatcher says:

    Stew – I actually have no problems with Ramadan, muezzins, mosques etc. But only if in Saudi, Iraq, Indonesia, Iran, Afghanistan, Jordan etc, etc. Not in Europe or the UK.
    Muslims are worshipping their God, just as I would worship mine. They’ve had a prophesy, just like I had. And if they’d gone back to compare it to their Abrahamic forefathers, they would have discovered that they were being deceived. No match.
    And the fact that they found they just had to conquer Constantinople and turn it into Istanbul, suggests that they are very expansionist. Gates of Vienna. Southern Spain. It doesn’t bode well.

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    • Despairada says:

      “I actually have no problems with Ramadan, muezzins, mosques etc. But only if in Saudi, Iraq, Indonesia, Iran, Afghanistan, Jordan etc, etc. Not in Europe or the UK.”

      I would tend to an opposing view that islam is like Covid. If it exists anywhere in the world it is likely to spread and render non islamic lives a misery.

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  3. Dystopian says:

    I’m not sure if this one has already been noted:

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jul/29/bbc-savile-expose-newsnight-meirion-jones

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  4. G.W.F. says:

    Pat Condell
    @patcondell
    ·
    53m
    Incredible that
    @BBCNews
    just gave a platform to the Chinese ambassador to push his “we’re all in this together” bullshit. The Chinese Communist Party caused this pandemic, concealed it until it was too late, and are still refusing to share data. They are the enemy.

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  5. theisland says:

    In the years ahead we will be digging ourselves out from the mire of this pandemic and grasping the opportunities, including Brexit, to deliver us and we will need a genuine NPSB. I would urge the government not to lose sight of the need comprehensively to review the position of the BBC.

    To put it mildly!
    But they’re not listening to us.

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  6. Sluff says:

    BBC 1 pm news.
    The Islamic Broadcasting Corporation is in full swing with its victimhood. They interview a female Muslim doctor.

    Wham. The government messages about Coronavirus are not cutting through to Muslims because all the messages are in English !!!!! FFS.

    Bang. 46% of Muslims live in the most deprived communities.

    Yet strangely the BBC seems totally unable to spot that there just might be a link between these issues. Don’t want to spoil the victimhood narrative, do they ?

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    • Darcy3 says:

      A requirement for UK citizenship is to pass English exams, unless you bribe the University of Bedfordshire (read Luton) £500 to pass you on the quiet, or, if you have lived in this country since before the requirement it is about bloody time you learnt English anyway

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    • Despairada says:

      Why do ALL newsreaders and presenters HAVE to say “the holy month of ramadan” ? Have they all secretly converted?
      Why not at least the izzlamic holy month blah blah? Makes me mad.

         48 likes

    • Eddy Booth says:

      Disagree.
      It’s just a coincidence, like greedy people living in fat bodies.

         5 likes

    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Of course, if anyone insisted that Muslims learn English, the language of their adopted country, THAT would be racist and judgemental.

      So Muslims are free to associate largely with their own and not integrate … but the host country can’t expect them to help by learning our language and must therefore provide, at our cost, leaflets and videos in dozens of ethnic languages. The BBC won’t ask the obvious question: why should we adapt to them?

         35 likes

    • Peter Grimes says:

      They may not speak or read English but when one of their Muslima fake doctors gets airtime you can bet your boots the local imam will subtitle the YouTube video for them.

         1 likes

  7. JamesArthur says:

    GWF
    You said it earlier today and you were right
    R4..TWATO..
    Sarah Montague “It’s St George’s day…. St George possibly a Roman, possibly of Geek origin” a whole 30 secs on it…
    They just can’t help it can they? Their disdain for the UK and England in particular and Christianity is palpable..

       54 likes

    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      I’m surprised that there have been no calls this St George’s Day to rename the (underused) NHS Nightingale Hospital as “NHS Seacole” …

         11 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Mustapha
        I think you’ll find that the nightingales are being fully used Under employed NHS staff to practice their dance moves before putting them on the internet / bbc
        ‘Strictly NHS dancing ‘ – complete with a clapping competition …..

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  8. JimS says:

    Nicola Sturgeon start to think about sending the children back to school, however schools may ‘need to be re-designed to take account of social distancing’.

    So how far apart do kids in the same room have to be spaced out as they breathe in the same air for many hours? Probably no point in keeping them apart at all.

    Maybe they just need to keep them away from others at the same school. Perhaps they could have different rooms for different groups? All the kids in one class could be in one room and and all the kids in a different class could be in a different room? They could call them classrooms!

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    • Darcy3 says:

      And a teacher could write with chalk on a “board of colour”

      (FFS)

         23 likes

    • Northern Dreamer says:

      It will be the teaching unions who determine how schools re-open. Probably insist on one teacher, one pupil, in one classroom. Then scream that this government hasn’t built enough schools/classrooms.

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  9. JimS says:

    It looks like I’m infamous over at isthebbcbiased regarding their adoption of Disqus, something that I have no desire whatsover to sign-up to. Seeing all the trollery that goes on at Conservative Woman from that quarter doesn’t encourage me.

    I will just have to ‘hold my tongue’ in future and not respond to all the intelligent, well-written ‘hostings’, (just made that up! posts-by-the-hosts).

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  10. Lefty Wright says:

    Just to add some perspective to BBC reporting perhaps they could give this young lady a regular spot on peak time viewing. Or would that be taking diversity too far?

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  11. The Sage says:

    Coronavirus deaths in England rise to 16,786
    NHS England has announced 514 new coronavirus-related hospital deaths, bringing the total number of reported deaths in hospitals in England to 16,786.

    Patients were aged between 31 and 100 years old. Sixteen of the 514 patients (aged between 37 and 92 years old) had no known underlying health condition.

    So just 16 people (and one of those was 92!) are reported to have died from/with CV-19 in England and who were not already seriously ill (or thereabouts).

    This damaging lockdown has been put in place to save 16 people with no-known underlying health conditions a day. The rest have probably died a few weeks earlier on average than they might have otherwise done, which is all very tragic but….

    This country must be mad.

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    • Sluff says:

      Mad maybe but think of the LeftMob virtue oozing out of every pore.
      And make sure you are sitting down securely should you happen on bbc 1 tonight……

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    • StewGreen says:

      @TheSage “no known underlying health condition”
      keyword … ” no known”
      they might have had something, but not so far as the hospital knew.

      They might have been a recovering smack addict or ex-alcoholic etc.

      BTW that is an England Total
      There is funny maths going on with the UK total
      Today it’s 616
      BUT yesterday’s total has been revised up cos Northern Ireland found an extra 22

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      • The Sage says:

        Yes, exactly. I added “no known” to emphasize the point.
        Also interesting to read:
        “A new modelling analysis by the organisation says nearly 760,000 people in the region could die from malaria in the region in 2020, if there is severe disruption to access to the medicine and insecticide-treated nets that help prevent malaria.”
        So it seems malaria deaths in Africa are set to outstrip global CV-19 in 2020! Hey, let’s cancel some more flights and hold more daily news conferences.

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        • StewGreen says:

          ” if there is severe disruption to access to the medicine”

          so those deaths would happen if Covid disrupts the medicine supply
          I was in Ghana for 6 months, I took my larium
          it worked no bad effects for me.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Sage – judging by the comments coming from cranky and Northern Ireland as well as noises about more traffic …

      I think the pressure for this absolute lockdown to be changed will be overwhelming by the end of this 3 weeks .

      I reckon for the 100k test target to be achieved they’ll either have to test the military or cheat to get that size of ramp up .

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      • Eddy Booth says:

        Everything is uncertain since the government has added that vague ‘2nd wave’ caveat, into the lifting the house arrest.

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      • gb123 says:

        To get the numbers they will probably set up a survey on Twitter. “Do you have CV-19 yes or no?”
        They will then have responses from around the world to claim they have “self tested” millions. If it is on Twitter or the BBC it must be true. Job done.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, I would really like Matt Hancock to hang out to dry the Civil Servant or NHS boss who told him to set 100,000 as a target for the end of April.

        I really would. I would really, really, like that to happen.

        It will not, of course.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Spiegelhalter explains new ONS stats
      in extended podcast version of Inside Science
      “The hospital peak deaths was on April 8th”
      .. There are a few deaths in the community
      and they may have a different pattern”
      … OK I have switch to listening to live briefing.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000hgj3

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      • StewGreen says:

        He cites this NHS graph
        It’s NOT the normally daily tally we see.
        It’s a retrospective graph, when you take the daily data
        and put each death in on the day it actually happened. We know some recent death reports have still not come in
        So estimates are shown in orange
        “It’s clear it HOSPITAL Covid19 deaths peaked 2 weeks ago on April 8,
        and after then a slow steady improvement”

        Care Home Covid19 deaths could be added to the graph, that would flatten it a but it would still be falling.

        EWSphS3XgAAAL7i.jpg:small

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      • StewGreen says:

        Spiegelhalter continues
        “For week ending April 10
        10,500 deaths would be expected
        but 18,500 happened
        So that is 8,000 excess deaths ..extraordinary
        6,200 had Covid19 on the death certificate
        So what’s with the other 1,800 ?
        Well in care homes ..there were 1,600 extra non-Covid deaths
        Also at home 1,000 extra non-Covid deaths
        BUT 1,400 FEWER deaths in hospital

        There is something wrong there it should add up to 1,800, not 1,200
        I guess he is saying that .well I dunno

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        • StewGreen says:

          Ha Spiegelhalter has answered me back
          That’s 2020 communication
          Britain’s top medical-statistician was on the radio
          I thought his numbers didn’t add up
          So I asked him
          And here in the morning he’s answered me back to explain

          Basically his back of the envelope calculations are slightly wrong
          The baseline week he used has 500 more deaths than the normal Week15 we are talking about
          “So out of hospital excesses are bigger than I said, hospital deficit a bit smaller.”

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  12. Up2snuff says:

    Music to clap by …..

    A cautionary tale for the clap tonight

       5 likes

  13. StewGreen says:

    R4 now : “Helen also finds herself in a once-famous garden that has re-wilded itself.
    Once the immaculate BBC show garden of TV gardener Percy Thrower, this patch of tree-laden wilderness-heaven is in a secret corner of Birmingham’s Botanical Gardens.
    She thinks on the whole, he’d approve of the trees. Although maybe not the weeds.”

    Presenter is Happy she managed to get in an interview with a Sikh guy.

    The prog is called Open Country
    but as ever it’s about a city
    Tree planting Birmingham rivers.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000hghz

       9 likes

  14. BRISSLES says:

    Anyone else on here know that there are 30,000 new diagnosed cases of Cancer EVERY MONTH ? Now that IS staggering.

       20 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      AFAIK we all get cancer if we live long enough
      BUT many cancers are not that harmful
      and most can be treated well.

         9 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Yep, some of us have been there. About three in ten, afflicted in adult life. (Same as for ‘mental illness’ but the BBC do not make the same fuss about it.) Many tumours are benign.

        Many people die of old age or other conditions, carrying cancer tumours in their bodies. Many people alive in those cities, when the atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and who were irradiated, have gone on to live very long lives, possibly because the tumours they might have developed in later life were destroyed by irradiation.

        But as with Covid-19 and influenza if you have a known weakness or vulnerability it is best to be a little careful. Probably not a good idea to o/d (that’s overdose – Fed) on Vitamin D and sunbathing.

           14 likes

    • Eddy Booth says:

      I heard on radio 4 the numbers being screened was way down on normal.

         5 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        I cycled past a screening centre this morning. There’s usually a small queue, socially distanced, of about four or five people. This morning? Only one.

           9 likes

        • Lefty Wright says:

          Up2snuff
          I hope the “only one” was keeping 2 metres away from him/herself.

             5 likes

    • Lefty Wright says:

      BRISSLES
      I am 6 weeks away from my 80th birthday and following a fairly recent prostate test (finger up the bum) the consultant informed me that,at present, I do not have prostate cancer but I WILL get it. There’s a comforting thought.
      However, my biggest enemy is the common cold. All my life the bastard seems to have homed in on me almost every winter and it plays havoc with my sinuses.Right now I have a blocked snout and a sore throat. How do I know that I’m not about to kick the bucket with the newfangled big C? Answer——- I don’t but 4 score years ain’t a bad innings is it? My daddy only got 77 so I have bested him R.I.P.
      P.S. I recommend Wrights home brewed beer. Keeps yer stiff and spry.

         18 likes

  15. The WestWyvern says:

    UK Defence Journal reporting: https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/royal-navy-helicopters-conduct-reconnaissance-sorties-over-bermuda/

    Royal Navy Merlin and Wildcat helicopters have completed reconnaissance sorties over Bermuda.

    The Royal Navy say that three Commando Merlin helicopters of 845 Naval Air Squadron and a Wildcat of 815 Naval Air Squadron joined Argus as she patrols the region in readiness to support British Overseas Territories during the hurricane season.

    “Working with Bermudan authorities, the Commando Helicopter Force Merlins and 815’s Wildcat gathered crucial information on landing sites where humanitarian aid could be brought ashore if called for by the island’s governor in a time of need.

    As well as search and rescue training, the navy fliers and Argus took part in joint exercises with the newly-formed Bermudan coastguard, which was launched in February to provide security and safety in the seas around the islands which have a population of more than 62,000. This included the 203 Flight Wildcat helping the Bermudans track noncompliant vessels from the air.”

    Argus will shortly join HMS Medway, who has been in the Caribbean for three months already after being forward-deployed to Atlantic Patrol Tasking (North), a mission which focuses on providing reassurance to Commonwealth and British Overseas Territories, disrupting the flow of smuggled narcotics and supporting humanitarian relief efforts.

    I think there is a few non-compliant vessels closer to home they may wish to focus upon. Perhaps.

       25 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      How come she’s Dr Cousens when she hasn’t got her PhD yet from the MickeyMouse Uni where she’s studying?

         9 likes

      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        U2S
        I was educated at a very rural Grammar school, so long ago that about 7% of the generation who taught me went to university.
        My French teacher was not satisfied with her status and bewailed her lack of her qualifications preventing
        her being offered a position at a better school.
        My French teacher graduated magna cum laude from the Sorbonne.

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      • Peter Grimes says:

        She has several degrees, including one doctorate already. Not in medicine obviously, they all seem to be in Wimmins Studies and Grievance Mongering for this perpetual Leftoid student.

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        • Peter Grimes says:

          Rather like this other non-medical, Leftoid, lying Moslem, female Doctor who is often put forward to puff Labour’s propaganda.

          https://order-order.com/2020/04/23/faiza-shaheens-nhs-claims-fact-checked/

             13 likes

          • BRISSLES says:

            Oh yes, she’s the one who strangulates the English language with her glottal stop way of speaking. However she has risen through the ranks with that voice is beyond me.

               8 likes

            • Lefty Wright says:

              BRISSLES
              “risen through the ranks”? I wonder how the late Woy Jenkins would have said that one? I can’t do emojis so ha ha.

                 4 likes

        • Van Helsing says:

          Does she have one in Applied Mithering? Asking for a friend…

             6 likes

        • Up2snuff says:

          Ta, PG, that explains it – perpetual student. How does she handle the fees in our post-post-modern era? Had friends who were permanent students in the time of grants (1970s) but cannot understand why anyone would do it now.

             6 likes

    • Eddy Booth says:

      Discover?
      Don’t you create or invent them?
      Or are they hidden in a draw somewhere..

         8 likes

    • Van Helsing says:

      The UK has more than a plenitude of obnoxious twits with no obvious utility. It’s just a pity that they have no value on the export market…

         10 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      LCS I’m not outraged
      Huffpost do a click bait headline
      based around they know a pseudofeminist nutter
      Of course she says stuff like that, that’s what they do.

      She has a few degree and is now studying at Oxford Poly
      but teaches at the proper Uni

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      Where is StewGreen when he is needed?

      The author of a Guido comment notes that a Fleur Cousens writes for the Guardian and speculates that Fleur and Emily might be related.

      A search of the Guardian website reveals that Fleur has a Nobel prize for physics and specialises in the behaviour of pressurised spherical objects.

      Search results :- “football news articles, football, football site, world football, soccer articles, english sport, uk sports results, the guardian sports”

      Otherwise information on Fleur is limited, very limited if one is not prepared to create an account.

      However
      https://www.thetalentmanager.com/talent/50181/fleur-cousens
      Does have some information on a, presumably the, Fleur Cousens.
      Lives in Acne.
      MEDIA I WORK IN: Feature Film Broadcast Television
      LOCATIONS I CAN WORK IN: London Scotland
      LANGUAGE: English (Fluent)
      SKILLS/PERMITS: Driving Licence
      TECHNICAL SKILLS: Final Cut Pro 7 Adobe Photoshop Adobe Premiere Sony A7S Canon 7D Self Shooting Canon XF305

      JOB ROLE PRODUCTION TITLE CHANNEL COMPANY DATE
      Assistant Producer (AP) Ru Paul’s Drag Race UK Series 2 BBC 3 World Of Wonder FEB 20 – TO PRESENT
      Assistant Producer (AP) Jane McDonald and Friends Channel 5 Viacom International Studios OCT 19 – DEC 19
      Assistant Producer (AP) Celebrity Catchphrase ITV1 STV PRODUCTIONS JUL 19 – OCT 19
      Assistant Producer (AP) Celebrity Catchphrase ITV1 STV PRODUCTIONS MAR 19 – JUN 19
      Assistant Producer (AP) Blind Date Channel 5 So Television NOV 18 – FEB 19
      {This section was in columns when pasted from Word. Would Excel have worked?}

         5 likes

      • Peter Grimes says:

        Perhaps they are cousens.

        (Sorry, couldn’t resist.)

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      • StewGreen says:

        @LCS flippin heck mate it was 1am befote I finished reading posts
        I’m not back reading them at 5am

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      • StewGreen says:

        @LCS sisters
        Fleur is an LGBT footballer with Black and Gold

        On Emily’s now locked Instagram post
        The photo is of 2 girls and a boy .. siblings ?

        Then a post: “Festive Fleur ???? ????#sister #blackandgold #powerblazer”

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  16. Lucy Pevensey says:

    To hell with the BBC and it’s rammalammadingdong celebrations.

       45 likes

  17. Up2snuff says:

    BBC Waste-site Watch #1 – FakeNews

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52364811

    “UK employment was estimated at a record high in the three months to February”

    This is FakeNews and FalseFacts from the BBC because they are using 1970 as a base period. Am surprised the ONS let the BBC get away with it. Someone should take the BBC to Court. 😉

    UK Unemployment was much lower in the 1960s.

       18 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      @Up2snuff “UK employment was estimated at a record high”

      I think you interpreted that as “percent of UK UNemployment was estimated at a record low”
      as you say that probably happened in the 1960

      However in number terms and percentage terms we probably did have “UK employment at a record high” cos of this ridiculous habit of modern women who will go out to work in a JOB
      instead of staying in the kitchen.

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  18. Fedup2 says:

    First question at the briefing will be “ if Scotland , Northern Ireland and other countries are giving details of the end of lock down – why arnt you minister ? You should apologise ? Consider your position ? “…. sez Laura

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    • StewGreen says:

      Adil Ray is on now …
      FFS he is talking the Ramadan public info film he has made

         5 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Fed LK’s Qn is 100% exactly as you predicted

         9 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Stew
        Thank you – I feel a bit smug but was disappointed she didn’t say why can’t we be as good as the Germans …. and Norman wisdom is doing the signing again … priceless !

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  19. StewGreen says:

    News : testing expanded already to 51K capacity
    ..from today it’s being expanded to all ESSENTIAL workers who desire a test
    Bosses can use the website today
    employees tmw

    Home test kits are to be introduced (when ?)

       7 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      300K people will be entered into a regular community test programme
      so they can track CV19 in the community

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    • StewGreen says:

      Contact tracing to be stepped via the new NHS App
      .. emm that only works if people carry smartphones
      18,000 staff to be hired

      Actually I think in a workplace it would work
      if one employee got it an employer could see who he’d been close to in the last few days.

      “Especially as we enter Ramadan .. a season that is so special to many people
      .. I thank all British Muslims for staying at home
      .. I say to you all Ramadan Mubarak ….blah blah”

         14 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        The response ..”give us MORE”

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Maybe they could put up one of those ISIL Arabic Black and white Flags behind the podium to make for a faster caliphate ….

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  20. StewGreen says:

    @piersmorgan tweeted
    “BREAKING: 23k #coronavirus tests done in UK yesterday,
    on only 14k people”

    Actually he has chosen to round DOWN both numbers
    23.6k #coronavirus tests done in UK yesterday,
    on only 14.6k people.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Stew, is that almost doubling of the numbers because they are testing the tests? Or because they are testing to see if someone had it, then trying another test to see where they got it?

         1 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        @UpSnuff AFAIK the issue is that you avoid FALSE-negatives at all cost.
        If a test is positive it is accepted
        ..but a negative test means you do a second test.
        When the the people you tested are generally positive then more people can be tested.
        If everyone was negative, your 100,000 tests would get used up on 50,000 people

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Beeboid response to Hancock saying the test capacity is 51K and that is ahead of target

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  22. Venutius says:

    The daily condescension briefing.

    Today children I will be selling how fantastic we are and how amazing our National Health Service is.

    You will see, we have made no mistake’s and everything is under control. I will use words like plateau, down, and coping so you don’t worry when you actually look at the statistics, or compare our performance against every other developed nation. I will gloss over or omit the ONS data as this is in the past and has no relevance. To help this I will be reeling off internationally recognised institutions like Oxford, the MOD and Glaxosmithkline to attach ourselves to their success, guaranteeing glory by association.

    However, most importantly, I going to attempt some Arabic, recognise Ramadan, and the immense contribution Islam has made to this nation. I will, of course, ignore the patron St of England, at this difficult time. Our Christian heritage has no place any more.

    One final note. I’d like to point out our 5 pillar nation testing programme…..Oh the irony…!

    Time for Qs.

    Any Qs I don’t like I will bat into the middle distance by not recognise the premise as we have followed the science at every stage, so are beyond criticism. While I do recognise there is other science out there ours is the only correct one.

    ….Laura Carlsberg, from the BBC….

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    • Guest Who says:

      There should be a study into the effects of peroxide.

         16 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      V , I disagree the direct briefing seemed pretty good
      He got his message out .
      the ONS data doesn’t show the government to be liars or anything.
      Maybe you prefer Labour to the Tories ?
      I don’t, although the Tories are still a soft socialist party of smug Londoners.

      Why did he tribute Muslims
      people guess that they are a category that being lax on Covid19, and so he is praising them to keep them on side.

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      • Venutius says:

        SG

        If you believe this press conference crap then there’s nothing I can do for you.

        If you also believe he’s praising Muslims to keep them onside or that they’re a ‘lax’ category. There’s nothing I can write to help you.

        If you believe that I’d prefer some legitimate alternative to this government, then you’re correct. Unfortunately, it’s not represented in this parliament and it would be the antithesis of Liebour.

        I have read a lot of your comments on here. You do seems pretty anti BBC. My personal opinion is that well placed animosity is not entirely for the right reasons.

        Good luck to you ????

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  23. Sluff says:

    Matt Hancock went way out of his way today to thank Muslims for good behaviour at the beginning of Ramadan.

    Can anyone remember him doing the same for Christians at Easter?
    Or for Hindus whose climate tradition encouraged them to celebrate Holi day, on March 9th this year?
    And can anyone remember him mentioning St George’s Day?

    Nope, me neither. Welcome to the caliphate.

    And I must mention the irony that earlier today a spokesperson for Islam said that Muslims were over-represented in the Coronavirus statistics because they did not speak English.
    So how will they even know he has just thanked them?

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    • Beltane says:

      I think the truth is they are sh***ing themselves at the impending jumps in London and the Midlands death rates from mass rejection of social distancing coupled with the weakening effects on immune systems and basic resilience caused by artificially enforced starvation.
      These concerns resulting in accusations of racism and ethnic cleansing, of course.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Beltane – I fear you are right and when the macee dees open again the stabbings and cross infections will be spiking …..
        I – for one in London – won’t be leaping outside when London restrictions are lifted . But I’m lucky to have that option . The tubes will be hell …

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Thank you Hancock for your tribute to your leaders. We know how subservient this Government is to the caliphate.

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  24. Beltane says:

    The only reason for Krankie producing her 24-page itemised artwork, explaining how Scawlun will ease out of the lockdown restrictions ahead of the rest of us is simply to upstage the English.
    The actual mechanics of the process have already been dictated and she absolutely knows the risks of pretending to ‘go it alone.’

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  25. Up2snuff says:

    It appears there’s something funny going on in the US. I have monitored the figures on the Johns Hopkins Uni interactive for many days now. I’m now kicking myself for not keeping timed and dated screen grabs.

    For three weeks I have seen the US figures jump by 1 to 2,000 on the Eastern (seabord) Time yet I am told now that New York is the epicentre of the US outbreak of Covid-19. However, the next day, the US case listing jumps by many thousand as the Mid-West (Chicago) and Western (LA) time zones are added.

    In addition, the BBC have had various people grace TV and radio studio screens moaning about the high rate of poor BAME mid-Westerners (Chicagoans) infected by the Covid-19 virus and especially dying from the virus.

    Yet this is not reflected in the report here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51235105 (You need to scroll down past halfway to a map of the US in blue.)

    Something does not add up.

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  26. Fedup2 says:

    Up2 – is New Orleans added because I heard that being declared a ‘hotspot ‘ for ‘cultural’ reasons ….?

    The other thing – some were going on about the virus being ‘racist ‘ but it seemed to me that it the majority of cases are in big cities where often non whites out number whitee – then there are going to be more non white sufferers and therefore deaths –
    So how did they make that racist – the other implicatio being of course that the NHS and therefore the government – treats white people better than non whites – applying the false Grenfell doctrine ….

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    • Up2snuff says:

      But Fed, that’s not my point: the huge number shown on the BBC map is for Eastern Time, Chicago/Illinois is mid-Western Time.

      There are BAME in New Orleans and its wider environs but don’t forget many of them are white – they are of French origin. Think NO is mid-Western Time anyway. Look at the map. The numbers just do not tally with BBC news, at least on Radio 4. Can’t speak for TV.

      Then there was that video someone on here put up by a blond, New York, woman who had incorporated film of non-queues and other possibly fake stuff in NY.

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    • Loobyloo says:

      Well the cynic in me thinks that the anti-Brexit gang will love this, as they were v scared that Britain would thrive out of the EU. Now they can say ‘told you so’.

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      • Burgsey says:

        …but in practice being chained to the EU will only drag us down further, financially. Some of the entreprenurial spirit shown recently make me optimistic that we will be far better off going it alone and being flexible to respond to changing circumstances.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          EU trade as a whole, with UK as a member, was and is diminishing as a proportion of total world trade, Looby. In addition, our trade with the EU shrank from 66% in 1992 to about 45% in 2015.

          If we stayed in, we would be diminishing the UK twice over, while paying for the privilege. Some would say that is the height of stupidity.

          I certainly would and that was my initial reason for voting OUT. Now I have more. Thirty-two more. I see another arrest was made this week. But it wasn’t Angela Merkel.

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  27. Loobyloo says:

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-britons-still-support-lockdown-despite-being-sadder-and-more-anxious-poll-11977655

    Not Al Beeb, but an interesting and revealing read – just shows how the despicable the media are right now. This ‘survey’ is from a small sample but then extrapolated to represent ‘the country’. And note that the question put to the sample are how many are ‘against’ the question put, not for it.

    The best bit though, is the bar chart showing trust, where journalists and newspapers are bottom of the pile by a long chalk. Which makes their poll redundant. Total crap from the other cheek of the same arse (I like that saying).

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    • StewGreen says:

      Polls are rubbish
      but strange that SlyNews would publish one showing the BBC is ultra non-trusted

      GW has posted the graphic
      a few posts below here

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  28. BRISSLES says:

    I saw that Looby, and the comment by the reporting journalist was “more work to do there”, and moved swiftly on !

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  29. Despairada says:

    It may not be saying much but at least there was a St Georges Google Doodle today

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    • Sluff says:

      Tells you quite a lot when Google reference England’s patron saint more than the seditious traitors at the BBC.

      And to prove it, try googling ‘celebrate st george’s day’ and see how far down you have to go to find the BBC.

      Even Kentonline is higher.

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      • taffman says:

        What’s the matter with you people of England ? Are you afraid of yourselves ? While The Irish, The Scottish and us people from Taffland are proud patriots and celebrate our national saints day, Al Beeb appears to censor and airbrush St George out ?
        Who was it that said “A patriot loves his country but a nationalist hates other countries”?
        Remember that we are all from the United kingdom of Great Britain, ‘united we stand and divided we fall’ . St George goes back at least as far as Shakespeare time. IMHO There are elements in the media and the EU that would like to see the nation dived .

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        • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

          Not hard to see why the cultural commissars don’t want the English to be patriotic. England has most of the UK’s population, even if some are Scots, Welsh, etc, or of mixed White British origin. The racial and religious solidarity of newly arrived minorities and the legitimate nationalism of the Scots and Welsh can be used to bash the “bovine” (Aneurin Bevan) English, whose own patriotism has to be curbed at all costs to pave the way for the EUSSR, globalism and world government.

          William Hague of all people, thought by some to Right wing, stated that English nationalism was the most dangerous! The hollowing out of patriotism in England, promoted by the BBC and education system, makes colonization and subjugation easier.

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        • Dimebars says:

          I’m Glaswegian , brought up in the tenements in the Gorbals Govan area but by a strange quirk of fate in the 1970s in my late teens I came down to Lincolnshire. I loved the whole way of life down here and always swore one day I’d come back.
          In 2002 I came south again as an adult, now to Suffolk and I cannot for the life of me understand how the heck you have allowed the Englishness that you are absolutely entitled to feel to be kicked the hell out of you . England is a fabulous country , I’ve never not felt accepted .
          Today on Classic FM between 10am and 11am they had a St Georges hour where they played the most requested English music pieces , I was over the moon that a radio station was actually acknowledging your national day. If I have a choice over Elgar and Jerusalem over bagpipes and shortbread then I’m with you lot any day .
          In Scotland we were expected to rise to the Braveheart fiction and fight for our freedom , down here all I ever feel is a people who have lost the ability to stand up for themselves and just accept the whipping that any English hating mob care to give out . Crikes sake , I’m never done telling anyone who is stupid enough to have to listen to me down here that you have a beautiful country and a fabulous history and I love every bit of it .

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          • taffman says:

            Dimebars
            Hear, hear!
            Al Beeb has failed the people of England in her time of need.

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            • Dimebars says:

              Thank you Taffman , I would happily fight for this country , I find the Glaswegian accent a huge benefit when it comes to any form of debate , gawd knows why but they roll over very quickly when I start a defence of England , I suppose its a bit Rab C but a bit more Kirsty Young.

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              • taffman says:

                Dimebars
                I am afraid the people of England have lost their way, thanks in part, to Al Beeb.

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                • Dimebars says:

                  They’ve had patriotism kicked the hell out of them by every means available to the b’s who have all the privileges the media affords them

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          • BlackBear says:

            Well said Dimebar, I am a leave voting Scottish unionist, a breed that the BBC, Nicola and her cohort would have you believe does not exist. “Scotland voted to stay in the EU”, not quite, over 40% of Scots votes were cast in favour of leaving the EU.
            “Scotland wants independence”, not quite, over 55% of Scots voted favour of the union.
            Having said that, the approach taken by the BBC to continuously attack any Westminster policy whilst tacitly supporting any Holyrood policy on covid19 appalls me. I understand that the default position of the BBC is that it doesn’t like the current Westminster government (white male led, pro brexit, right of centre etc) and loves Hollyrood (female led, anti brexit, left of centre etc) but it does not excuse the level of dissent they appear to want to cause.
            Example 1
            BBC evening news reports that care homes in Scotland are being prevented from buying PPE from a supplier “because NHS England prevented the supplier from selling its stock into Scotland”.
            The implication was that the poor Scots were being done down by the evil English. If true this would be a scandalous accusation and a call to arms for every independence minded Scot.
            However, the truth when it came out was rather different. The PPE stock in question had been bought some months earlier by NHS England, was owned by them (even if it was being held in the manufacturers warehouse) and consequently was not available for purchase by others.
            BBC retraction or withdrawal – none. The following day there was a brief comment about a muddle hidden in a report on a totally different subject.

            Example 2
            Lifting the lockdown.
            The BBC seems determined to magnify the differences between Hollyrood (BBC loves Nicola) and Westminster (BBC hates Boris). They continually give prominence to Nicola whilst deriding UK guidance.
            Again their approach seems to be to cause the maximum amount of confusion and dissent, irrespective of whether it costs lives or not.

            We have no need for biased state broadcaster and it is time for the BBC to be abolished.

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  30. StewGreen says:

    ITV now “As Britain and Europe remain locked down in the fight against Covid-19, Julie Etchingham asks how seriously the food supply chain is being affected.
    Crops will be ready to be harvested in the coming weeks,
    but there may be no labour available.

    Medialand’s #ProjectFear continues

    but actually the blog and prog does look at British people who are picking now
    https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-23/the-land-army-needed-to-keep-the-uk-s-food-supply-chain-going-as-thousands-of-tonnes-of-food-risks-going-to-waste/

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      StewGreen
      Don’t panic! Old Wrighty will sally forth into the fields to harvest the grub. Proviso– £15 an hour + beer and sandwiches at regular intervals.

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  31. taffman says:

    “Labour has set itself a deadline of mid-July to conclude an investigation into a leaked document on the party’s handling of anti-Semitism allegations.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52394715

    But, but what about this inquiry of four years ago ?

    “Chakrabarti inquiry: Labour not overrun by anti-Semitism”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36672022

       20 likes

  32. taffman says:

    “Coronavirus: Birmingham funeral staff ‘spat at’ by mourners”
    Who are these ‘people’?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-52396748

       13 likes

  33. EUTV says:

    Meanwhile on BBC 1 The big Night In is sh%t.

       19 likes

    • taffman says:

      EUTV
      So why do so many (not me may I add) pay for it ?

         9 likes

    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      You sound (not very, admittedly!) surprised … It should be called the BBC’s Big Shite-in.

         20 likes

      • EUTV says:

        It’s the default channel on the Freeview box, every time she searches her recordings there it is. Tonight, we had 4 bursts. I do wonder if this is what water-boarding feels like?

        I’m happy to accept your new program title.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      I saw it listed, and like every charidee event on the BBC I gave it a wide berth, I can watch my dog for entertainment, not a load of has been slebs and sportspeople making idiots of themselves.

      I only hope that most of this lot will fade in obscurity through lack of work, when all of this is over.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Could be, a key part of a mosque is washing before you go it
      ..and those wash areas might be quite bad for spreading infection
      even if you space out inside.

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  34. Burgsey says:

    I am suprised the BBC havent picked up this story. I simply couldn’t believe what I was reading. Is this what they call extreme Woke?! Or is it a late April 1st story?

    “Oxford Doctor doesn’t want UK scientists to find Coronavirus Vaccine as it would prove “British excellence”

    See: https://unitynewsnetwork.co.uk/oxford-doctor-04-20/

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  35. StewGreen says:

    Rigby, I watched the same briefing as you
    and Vallance did not say that “Deaths WILL remain at a plateau ”

    OK the graph is only hospital deaths, but those represent 80% of Covid19 deaths.

    The stats experts say these report graphs lag reality
    So on the way up they UNDER REPORT deaths
    but on the way down they OVER REPORT deaths
    And in the real world hospital deaths peaked on April 8th
    So it is not true to say “Deaths WILL remain at a plateau ”
    we already know it’s a downward trend
    … until there is a second burst

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  36. Guest Who says:

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  37. Guest Who says:

    Have to admire just how in touch the BBC staff are with the public.

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  38. taffman says:

    \\Home Secretary Priti Patel says she is “determined” to stop illegal Channel crossings by migrants.//
    \\”I will always make sure that Border Force have the resources needed to tackle these dangerous crossings and keep our border secure.”//
    \\Bella Sankey, director of charity Detention Action, said: “The home secretary needs to stop chasing unicorns and level with the public.
    “The only way to eliminate boat crossings and put people smugglers out of business is to create safe and legal routes for those seeking sanctuary.”//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-52338124

    What good are the Border Farce? with their so-called “Interceptions” ?
    Is the EU so bad that people are “seeking sanctuary” from it to get to the UK, or could there be some other reason?

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    • Burgsey says:

      I can’t see how “safe and legal” routes will solve the problem. Only likely to exasserbate the situation. How would it work in practice without simply saying come on over, there’s plenty of room!

         12 likes

      • taffman says:

        Burgsey
        The Border Farce have already taken over as the ‘P&O Fairies’.

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      • StewGreen says:

        There is a safe and legal route
        You apply at the UN or British embassy f your home country or next one, if your country is at war.

        Smuggled people are simply queue jumpers
        So yes the government could under cut the people smugglers
        but what about the legal refugees in the queue ?

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    • Oaknash says:

      I dont know why she even bothers to open her mouth any more on this. We all know now that it is unsaid policy of all governments to flood the country with immigrants.
      How many years have they had to get this one right?
      We will have to deal with the consequences ourselves.
      I think a poster on- Breitbart (Bonce?) made a very interesting point – It has averaged between seven and four hundred thousand annually. Enough to fill us up quickly, but not enough to be picked up by the media.

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  39. lordelpus says:

    Nice to see the Sky News poll giving TV reporters and newspapers as least trusted by the public.
    Kuensberg and Rigby usual sneering reports today.But for pure hatred Sky news US correspondent Amanda Walker.She and Jon Sopel must be in competition to be the most vitriolic critic of Donald Trump.
    Is the craze for large bookcases starting to fade?Lots of talking heads now doing online interviews, with hideous paintings/prints in the background.

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  40. BRISSLES says:

    Yes, it really shows that some people live in homes that don’t appear to have any ‘warmth’. Arty farty walls with a lack of taste, or sitting in a Wren kitchen showroom. Perhaps its a generational thing.

    What would we have behind us ? I would plonk my huge framed picture of Fred Astaire behind me, or my Downton Abbey table lamp could look quite refined. Bloody sight better than some of the offerings I’ve seen.

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  41. JimS says:

    Oh dear…

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    • Oaknash says:

      Brilliant Jim – you bastard, I spilt my tea on the duvet laughing at that one and now Mrs Oak is cross!

      I wonder whether he takes his top hat off before clapping, he would look very silly if it fell off. Maybe the “politburo” clap would be better for him.

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  42. Celtic_Mist says:

    Interesting tweet, Sopel reposted it

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  43. Celtic_Mist says:

    It’ll be interesting to see how the BBC reports this research

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  44. taffman says:

    More ppe kit arriving from Turkey . Come on Al Beeb, wake up !

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  45. Foscari says:

    Who do you think should win the “Lord Haw Haw” award
    for the most the most sarcastic ,lets say unpatriotic and
    not traitorous , less than grand inquisitor at the daily media
    Chinese virus conferences.
    The headed name of this forum says it for me.It’s between
    a” lady” and a “man.” The ladies name originates from a district
    in the south Tyrol. And the mans name goes back to a very
    important personage from the time of the English civil war. Or
    maybe a drink you have at Wimbledon.Mind you I think that
    the dames neck just sticks out front .

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    • theisland says:

      Fos
      I would say that they and their ilk are better at sneering than they are at the art of sarcasm (for which they have not sufficient ‘wit’ – even in its lowest form).
      (I hold them in even more contempt than they hold me and my countrymen).
      However, even lower on the moral scale than these nonentities are the hypocrites.

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  46. Fedup2 says:

    Having effectively removed myself from most of the products of the BBC a lot of the very small information gap is filled by twitter and similar sources .

    So seeing that – again – Westminster Bridge had large numbers of snowflakes at 8pm last night – comes as no surprise .

    It looks as though plod was instructed to be elsewhere – it can only be a matter of time before we see them doing illjudged dance moves like the idiots in the NHS

    whilst the rest of us go stir crazy ‘ protecting ‘ them .

    Non seq- sometimes I try to jump forward to think about how this period will be viewed . And I’m not sure that either the BBC or NHS will come out of this with much credit .

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  47. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    8-year-old Yahya has built his own mosque using cardboard, sweet wrappers and fairy lights to celebrate Ramadan during the coronavirus outbreak.

    (via BBC Yorkshire) https://bbc.in/3aAHcQp

    ***

    (Via BBC Whitby)

    800 yo Vlad has built his own sacrificial altar and is celebrating the upsurge of young virgins due to social distancing.

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