As the Far Left BBC continues its efforts to undermine the morale of the suffering British Public during the Chinese virus pandemic we might wonder what the payback will be For the BBC as the economy contracts into recession…
Midweek Thread 6 May 2020
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Anyone seen DoverSentry?
Taffman
Posting about the BBC on guido Wednesday …..
I was under the impression he was on the south coast , Coast Watching. Looking out for ‘invaders’ that is ?
A bit of wordplay I noticed on the bbbc 10 o clock news tonight.
The UK deaths figure includes all venues and “people who died after testing positive OR AFTER DISPLAYING COVID SYMPTOMS”
So not only the dying with/dying of the virus but, if I may venture, including those that died after displaying covid symptoms. Covid symptoms? Do they mean pneumonia?
It is very often pneumonia that sees off those with long standing conditions. The cancer/leukaemia/dementia takes away the body’s immune system and pneumonia is what finally kills these poor unfortunate folk. Question is, is this scenario also included in the “died after displaying covid symptoms”?
Are there no curious journalists around to ask the question?
Andy, there are rumours – I would emphasise that word rumours – that hospital Docs under pressure (of all sorts?) are signing Death Certs as Covid-19 cause-of-death if they merely suspect the deceased was infected. That is why it is so important not to look at deaths in the UK as a key signifier.
It is infections, and only infections, that count.
I blame our Stew! 😉
[ 🙂 Sorry, Stew. 🙂 ]
Hi Up2. My understanding is the Coronavirus Act introduced by the Government removed the need for two separate doctors signatures to certify death. This double signature was introduced after the Shipman scandal.
Therefore you are correct. Death certs can now be signed off by one doctor and quite likely to state Covid 19 even if this was not necessarily the cause of death or just as importantly the patient died with Covid 19 and not because of it.
This may well be having a SIGNIFICANT impact on the numbers reported, especially in care homes.
Again not a peep from the mainstream media as it does not fit the narrative.
This is where the malaria drug HCO + antibiotic seems to make the difference.
The striking thing is that countries that have malaria and take this drug regularly, have very low mortality rates due to Covid 19.
https://qz.com/india/1839018/why-does-india-have-so-few-coronavirus-covid-19-cases-and-deaths/
For India
Mortality rate = 800/1200(million) = 0.7 per million
UK Mortality rate = 66.5 per million
95 times higher.
Correction
Uk Mortality is 442.8 per million
On that basis India should have 530,000 or half million deaths due to cv19
So do you expect a poor Indian living in a rural village who dies of Covid -19 to have a post mortem done on him to prove cause of death ?
Richard
In answer to your question. Speaking as a modern TV journalist – well no – it’s easier just to assume that it’s Corona. I get paid anyway whatever I say (provided it tallies with the agenda). Nudge nudge, wink wink know what I mean??
Interesting. However, is Brazil not tropical? And swampy? Must be enough to require use of anti-malarial drugs (remember the flap over the Zika virus in 2016?) yet their rate of infection is rocketing. They have shot into the TopTen, currently at number 9, but with a population of over 200 million they are likely to climb higher.
Unfortunately journalism is on a downward spiral, today’s journalist is more adept at cut and paste rather than asking questions. MSM journalists now only make programmes which confirm their own bias, witness the latest Panorama fiasco.
Andy
The common cold has now been named Corona. Named after the beer because it’s best served cold.
Andy, I have been thinking the same thing. The wording I keep n oticing on Sky is “The number of deaths of people who have tested positive for Corona Virus.” Very vague and it probably also includes many very old people who were about to die even if they had not had the virus.
Context : Ferguson maintains he was immune
Should’ve met her on Westminster bridge at 8pm on a Thursday.
No one would have batted an eyelid.
BBC Moaning Emole
“We wake up this morning to the news that a prominent government adviser, Prof Neil Ferguson, has quit following a Daily Telegraph story that a woman, said to be his “married lover”, visited his home during lockdown. Prof Ferguson – whose modelling of the virus’s transmission informed the decision to impose social distancing – said he made an “error of judgement” in undermining the rules he’d called for.”
They have woken up, this morning. Apparently.
It would also be interesting to compare bbc ‘reporting’ of Fergie utterances early on with the new expert distancing engaged upon here.
‘Twas Prof Ferguson who reckoned the UK would see an exponential rise in infections, with the doubling occurring every three days. Fortunately, that didn’t happen, no doubt in part due to the ‘lockdown’.
He’s the same chap that was advising Tony Blair at the time of the foot and mouth outbreak in 2001.
It was his plan that led to the culling of healthy livestock even if they were on adjoining farms. The culling led to the slaughter of six million cattle, sheep and pigs and cost the economy £10 billion. He also claimed that 150,000 people could die from Mad Cow Disease. Thankfully his predictions were wildly off and fewer that 200 have lost their lives. But four million cattle were slaughtered.
And of that number of culled beasts, which does not include the calves in hand and very young lambs slaughtered as well, a total of 12% were found to be infected. A number of farmers comitted suicide after the loss of their herds and income. The man should have been ignored from that point, but they trusted him yet again to predict the outcome of SARS. He was orders of magnitude wrong yet again. So fundamentally useless he is a menace. To find that for lockdown amusement he is having it off with someone elses wife is no big surprise. The cuckolded husband should do us all a favour and have a bit of a “remonstration” with the guy. With a baseball bat.
I wonder if Prof Ferguson will now become one of those ‘ tame’ experts the BBC love so much ? He certainly showed up quite a bit on recent weeks .
It would be a turn up for the books if the lady he was … ‘ seeing ‘ develops covid as a result of being exposed to him .
Never in the field of human history had so much has been based on someone so flawed …
We would like to see the model, analysis and assumptions that leads to the numbers forecast.
Apparently the mistress is a raving leftie. Very surprising as she is attractive which is extremely rare in leftie circles.
Attractiveness is relative.
In the bubble folk got excited about Treezer’s cleavage and latterly the Swinsonian landing deck.
Don’t see it myself.
Utter pratt ! wasn’t it once said that it was the elderly who didn’t respect the social distancing ? and here we have the ultimate hypocrite – wonder how old HE is, he doesn’t look over 70. I’m glad he’s plastered all over the front pages, shame doesn’t begin to cover it.
YouTube’s increasing censorship. It’s not the beeb, but same mindset.
Hi, can someone recommend how I can download this video or some free software that will capture the video content. We are now living in an age of growing authoritarianism – where censorship is on the rise. Thanks.
Broadcasting
VLC media player is pretty good for screen recording and free. I use it all of the time. Make sure you go to their site and not through a third party site
Depends which operating system you use, windows mac etc.
On Android, TubeMate is good, but not perfect.
Naturally YouTube doesn’t like downloaders and constantly try to stop them working.
https://tubemate-3.en.uptodown.com/android/download
BB of the C
I use the Firefox browser which offers loads of video download apps.
Very useful.
YouTube’s ok for music and funny cat/dog videos. There’s lots of great content and uncensored news available in podcast form. As a YouTube alternative BitChute doesn’t appear too heavily censored.
Should have included this hit piece.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute
Very sad that this chaps’ videos were taken down – I suppose Americans have a short memory and 9/11 is forgotten ….. and that Muslims infiltrated the west coast internet providers to shape the message – very wahhabi ….
ISIS raped and murdered their way in the ME in the Obama era, when they got a pass. Not so now.
THE OTHER VIRUS
If I thought that wearing a face mask for the next twelve months would make the hideous brain washing far left BBC go away and never come back again – then yes, most certainly and with pride.
Capstan Full Strength
If you smoked those fags in your youth then you must be at least my age – and they didn’t kill you. Neither will Corona. It’s not a beer of the finest quality but it will exercise your bladder. Cheers.
This is on the BBC Children’s News Channel: “Who starts fake news about coronavirus – and why?”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/52537443
Among other things it states US Politicians are deliberately spreading misinformation and fake news about Coronavirus and that claims that the virus was deliberately created in China are “of course” not true.
It’s a case of ‘get em young’ .
Thanks for highlighting that Caliphate, bbc making major unsubstantiated claims, pure fake news.
From the video,
“Officials in China and the US have been trading misinformation since the start of the virus. Each accusing the other of deliberately creating it. Of course, neither of those claims are true.”
To which the obvious question would be, how does the bbc know this? Have they visited every bio weapons lab in China and the US to establish their claim? Now the bbc could have said we believe this not to be true or even it is almost certainly not true. But they didn’t, without supporting evidence it’s no more than an opinion,
Fake news for kids, how low can they go.
Oldspeaker
So both the U.S. and China are lying. The BBC will now reveal the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help them ALLAH.
@Caliphate the BBC’s fakenews correspondent posted
a long thread
In the school playground there is only ONE true world
and there are a lot of kids giving fakenews from a left or right angle.
It is ironic that one kid the BBC, points and says “look over there a righty kid is spreading FakeNews”
even if the BBC is correct that time
that doesn’t mean the BBC the BBC itself is the TruthSpeak kid cos we know most of the time it isn’t.
Does that ‘US Politicians’ include the claims about Covid-19 of Andrew M. Cuomo?
The curious thing about the BBC’s ‘Fake News Alerts’ and their fact checking is that they are always alerts about stories which favour the populists and undermine the liberal Globalists, or which show our government in a good light or Labour in a bad light. I wonder why that is?
Doublethinker
Oh dear. You mean you do not know the answer to your own question? Surely you must be trying to wind us up.
Over at isthe bbcbiased:
“As for the Disqus thing, I think the jury’s still out. We were hoping to attract a wider, livelier and more diverse disqussion below the line. We’ll wait and see what transpires. ”
Translations:
We were hoping? Sounds like it hasn’t happened then?
We’ll wait and see what transpires. What! You want me to change it all back to what it was?
disqussion? Is that wordplay or bad spelling?
taffman
Like me he bought his degree online from Amazon £1.50. No sweat.
Funny old site this innit Taffy? I give you an answer before you ask a question. Must be my bedtime. Goodnight all.
“UK warned to avoid climate change crisis” Harribin is at it again .
I would advise him that the UK’s emissions are very low and that he should aim his propaganda at the countries that are the culprits. All this from him when we are facing an economic crisis as we emerge from lockdown . Where on earth did he get his science degree from , India or China ?
Of course, he doesn’t have a science degree from anywhere.
This is from Wiki: “He then studied English at St Catharine’s College, Cambridge”.
This guy is a total fraud in the same way that music teacher Paul Mason was an economics expert (well, Newsnight thought he was).
How do these non-qualified people get these jobs at the BBC? Any guesses?
Shots fired.
Andrew knows very well they were trying to preempt the ‘critics are saying’ howls from his colleagues on behalf of every grievancemongering essential colleague on the speed dial of the outrage community.
Isn’t it true to say that in language there are three genders; he, she and it?
But in life gender = sex and there are only two; he and she? Everything else is an abnormality, either physically or mentally?
John, there are a few babies who at birth whose gender cannot be determined. I presume these days a dna test will be able to identify the child. But it used to be a doctor’s decision and didn’t always work out well. I don’t care for SJWs or the trans lobby but for people born in those situations I feel great sorrow for the difficulties they face.
Deborah
Where there is a physical doubt I could not agree more but it would appear that psychologically I could wake up tomorrow and decide that from now on I will identify as female and those that fail to recognize my preference will lay themselves open to prosecution.
That, I suggest is a good indication of social insanity.
The hermaphrodites we aredealing with here have a vested interest in blurring the distinction.
Perhaps this is the clearest example of a drive to make males a ‘minority ‘ – 50% of people are women apparently but if the bubble makes sexual perversion more acceptable they might get the number of men defined as men down to – say 40%- thus having various consequences which I can’t – in my straight normal head – figure out .
Maybe the Lady / queer who wrote the tweet just doesn’t like men and preferred we didn’t exist …
This is funded by the Licence Fee but is about to carry advertising?
“Will the BBC be introducing advertising breaks in the middle of podcasts?
No. Most of our podcasts are not designed to accommodate “mid-roll” breaks at the moment, and while it’s something we might consider in the future, at this stage we are only going to include advertising at the start and end of podcasts.”
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This one of, presumably, many ‘partners’ –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBUR-FM
Some of us are old enough to remember the Payola Scandal, although I rush to point out that I was only a child at the time.
Hello, I am the director of an NHS Trust and I want to buy some PPE but it must be from Burberry. If I write to your address or send an email, could you let me have their telephone number please?
Yours falsely etc.
Hello Ian –
I work for NHS procurement – I also have a private company which supplies PPE equipment . Please send me your order and it will be fulfilled – don’t worry if it is delivered by vehicles marked up as NHS or that the PPE has the NHS brand on it .
Cash is preferred but otherwise my off shore account can be used ….
If you need any other NHS equipment or drugs please let me know – I can also sell you an unused nightingale hospital …
“Unused Nightingale Hospitals” ?
I thought the NHS was using them to practice their dance routines.
I’m obviously way out of touch with changes in the BBC’s organisation
Why has no one produced a transparent face mask?
In general the filter material is non or semi-transparent, and it would eventually blacken up as it traps “dirt” from the air.
I’ll bet Elon Musk could make one. After all he invented a barrel to rescue those children in Thailand.
He’s a genius. I think that’s what he said he was.
There was a rumour you could buy them on eBay – but anyone could see through that one.
BBc breakfast – a bit on how some hairdressers are ignoring the ban. BBC reporter rings and asks for hair cut – all of the voices he played back were not English.
They all sounded… eermm BAME…any mention of that? Normally they are so up when Ethnicity is involved.
BBC biased ….why even ask?
They are probably Turkish.
Turkish barbers have sprung up like mushrooms in my area. A policeman friend reckons they are used as money laundering fronts for various illegal activities, but there is no political will from the bosses to investigate them. Can’t think why.
Oo, look which ex-bbc alumnus outfit has got in Mad Al to ‘analyse’ govt. Failures…
I wonder if it takes 45’ to read?
That is the same Alastair Campbell that put out a tweet this morning
laying into his own newspaper the New European
for tweeting in quotes something Dr Rosena Allin-Khan had said when she hadn’t
The New European then deleted that tweet
and 30 mins ago put out a tweet complaining
“PM and Dominic Cummings use messaging service that permanently *deletes* texts”
BTW after the exchange in parliament yesterday Dozens of NE readers put out tweets WITH QUOTATION MARKS
saying Hankcock had told Dr Rosena Allin-Khan to “watch your tone”
That is NOT what he said thread
..her initial misleading tweet
And this is after Khan’s performance on Ridge where she was called out for saying that she was working all day on the Frontline at the Nightingale, and on challenging she admitted she worked in the backroom at St Georges, and had popped into the Nightingale for a couple of hours.
Sluff
Exactly – I said same to wife – look at the Twitterati , all reporting what Matt H had said as ‘truth’ when it was not what was said…
And again I said to wife how can she be working front line A&E when she is an MP – don’t care if she is a medic. Twitterati quiet on that
I hate twitter almost as much as I detest the BBC 🙂
TalkRadio news just put in a clip of Campbell
saying what Boris should be doing and talking about his private life
..why is Campbells opinion news ?
I preferred him when he was on 20 pints a day.
If you look at the number of Covid deaths as a proportion of each countries population, we are well down the scale, below some European countries and the US are below us…………but that fact does not fit the bill.
Well Belgium, Italy and Spain to be exact.
A disturbing thought further to the outing of Professor ‘trousersdown’ Ferguson.
The D mail reports the ‘married lover’ is in fact a left wing activist and shows a picture of her with a climate change petition on route to Downing Street.
Now just suppose, and I make no direct accusation, that members of SAGE shared or were influenced by such left wing activist agendas.
What better way to achieve aims such as destroying capitalism and ending fossil fuel usage than by advocating a very long lockdown to bring coronavirus under control? We know that, politburo-like, most of SAGE are state employees with fully guaranteed jobs and salaries and so are largely unaffected by their recommendations.
The only thing missing is the Zil limousines.
Perhaps Boris also needs an‘Economy Advisory Group of Experts’
Even as recently as 2015 I would have dismissed your scenario as conspiracy theory gone mad, but the last five years have wised me up to the machinations of the liberal Globalist left. They will stop at nothing to force their one world agenda on the rest of us by destroying the nation state. They will exploit any and every situation to further their agenda.
‘Honey, I Trapped The QT Panellist’
Champion Ash ready to serve again?
She’d get on well with the lefty shagger prof methinks …
Oh, and by the way.
Figures show a huge amount of personal debt was paid off last month, one of the biggest on record.
Why? Because there is nothing to spend money on, and so public sector workers on full pay are able to save like never before. There is no incentive for public sector workers, especially those on SAGE, to want to end the lock down. Financially, they are gaining from all of this. For those who hate capitalism whilst in a position to pull up the drawbridge and protect themselves, every day is Christmas.
For workers in tourism, catering, airlines etc etc, and millions of others, its another story. But they are not represented on SAGE.
Sluff, good thing then that Dominic Cummings was ‘sitting in’ at SAGE meetings.
Alternative headline?
‘Adulterer with Red Lover quits after questionable advice to government costs Britain half a trillion pounds and kills thousands’
Exit sage lefty.
(Pursued by a bear)
I don’t know if this has been reported by the foul corporation because I never listen to their so called news but yesterday, as reported in the Telegraph business section, the German Supreme Court ruled that Germany must not participate in any further European bail outs or bond purchases organised by the EU. This means that the main creditor in the EU is effectively barred from propping up the Euro by buying the debt of Italy, Spain, Greece and France. The only way out of this is for the EU to change its treaties and for the German government to sign up to those changes and effectively sign away German sovereignty and therefore expect German tax payers to foot the bill for what they see as gross overspending by other countries. This would be manna from heaven for the AfD who would receive millions of extra votes on the back of it. There would be a similar anti EU surges in Holland and Austria. The Euro and the EU are in deep, deep trouble over this. It is likely to be the end of the Euro and possibly of the Federalist ambitions of the EU itself. The Pound has strengthened a little against the Euro overnight and as the news sinks it is likely to rise further. The impact over the next year or so on the EU is likely to be nearly as severe as Brexit. Even the fanatical Remainers must recognise that their ship has finally hit its iceberg!
One of my all time great films is” Moonstruck” the film in
which Cher won a deserved Academy award. There is
terrific end scene when all the family are having breakfast.
What has been going on is being explained, but the old gran dad
has a pained expression. He sadly says ” I’m confused, I’m
confused” as a tear falls on to his cheek. Apparently this scene
took two days to get right . This old gran dad, yours truly has
been confused for several weeks now.
We have our national broadcaster the BBC acting like they
are an auctioneer . ” 5000 dead, any advance on 5000, 10,000,
20,000, 30,00 ? going going———-.
We used to be amused the when on “Pointless” the two
Richards went hysterical when contestants had the same Pointless score and in unison screamed ” LOCKDOWN, LOCKDOWN.” Being reminiscence of when we had advert after
after for AIDS slimming pills.
Now it seems to be the requisite of- “do as I say , not what I
do” brigade to become the life or death of both our bodies and economy. Accompanied with this our masters have to be able
to , I wont be crude-be able to “put it about.”
I am in no way a moralist . But I am getting very confused.
I just hope on their night’s off Laura Kuenssberg and Matt
Hancock are not seeing each other. Of course nothing to do with isolation!
This is an interesting post by Churchmouse.
I had to laugh when I read the wee Jobby’s tweet about what he thinks of us.
https://churchmousec.wordpress.com/2020/05/05/british-public-dislikes-medias-coronavirus-coverage/
John
Thank you for that link – the tweet in which the James O’Brien characters says we wonders if the great british public can process the information journalists give them did make me laugh out loud – which doesn’t happen very often .
I have to admit that I only know mr O’Brien by name but I suppose he is in that bit of the bubble which only says stuff to get money and get noticed – invited onto the BBC for instance – to give an angled left wing view as opposed to the standard approved one .
Thinking about it – maybe they use ‘outspoken ‘ fools like him to try to make their institutional propaganda – monopoly of thinking – more ‘acceptable ‘ those not paying the attention they deserve ….
JamesArthur – I also watched this article on the BBC and like you noticed all the voices seemed BAME, which the reporter did not mention, the BBC seem to pick and choose when BAME is of relevance.
The only tiny bit of BBC related stuff I now take are the daily briefings …..they might start to get a bit spicy now – perhaps with the experts/government being held to account …
1. Why arnt more tests being done since you’ve been crowing about capacity
( how many tests being done are for new people rather than retests ?)
2. Why have you got experts on sage who lack personal judgement – how much was Ferguson being paid ?
3 what are you going to do about the court of protection ruling on Tuesday that people dying should be allowed to have next of kin with them ? How are you going to arrange that ( it can be done)
A suggestion -minister – maybe use the energy the NHS staff put into practicing their dance routines while people are dying and crying ……
4 tell us about the Israeli cure ….
5 if more men are dying from covid would it be best if less NHS male staff are exposed to covid sufferers – after all – you’re making a big thing about disproportionality of coloured sufferers – so what about men?
6 how long are you going to talk about protecting the most exposed to the virus in care homes before doing something about it ? Or do you want them all dead ?
7 what proportion of state v private care home s have deaths from the Chinese virus ?
8 when is the Bank of England putting up interest rates in order to borrow money to keep paying furlough cases ?
9 when does the UK go bust ?
Now let’s have a look at a few meaningless graphs .
Sorry FedUp I posted below not knowing that you were going to post .
Nibor – haha- add those to the list of questions that won’t be asked – too busy trying the gotcha questions . I think BoJo could have a slightly challenging PMQs Today …
Over the Hill Katty’s other main source of ‘news’ runs a TDS.
#CCBGB
Maxicony or Piku ,
I`ll give you £300 if the BBC asks any of these questions at any of the Cabinet debreifs aired @5 o clock.
Why , if there is this great emergency and the British people are effectively under house arrest , is the government allowing people to invade our shores and settle here ?
Can you guarantee that none of them have Covid 19 or any other illness ?
They are inspected medically when they claim asylum , who gives them the examination , what duties are they taken from to attend these arrivals and is PPE used ?
Where are they kept while their asylum application is processed , who oversees them , what equipment is used and what is the cost ?
If you think that there will be an increase in unemployment after this emergency , why are we allowing more people in to increase the unemployment even further or displace people already here ?
Where are/do these live when they settle here , who pays for their housing , how does it help our housing shortage ?
I dont suppose we`ll hear from Maxi or Piku now for a while .
Nibor
Expect some of the illegals already have employment sorted with the many hand car wash establishment’s……all those dirty cars after weeks of little use . It’s a big CASH earner for those that run them….no doubt they put in for Government help !
You can see it coming a mile away. The next “heroes” are going to be teachers. We will see tearfull female teachers (no doubt BME) crying about lack of PPE and having to go back to school without “proper safeguards” …..I don’t think its the teachers but the left wing teachers unions trying to do their best to undemine the government.
Likewise I can’t see teachers giving up thier 6 weeks holidays which should now be abandoned as the country returns to work…
So come on teachers let’s see you do your bit look after the kids whilst we all return to work.
So minister – what you’re saying is ….. you’re going to cut the furlough pay to starve families to go back to work even though you have frightened them to death ….?
Maybe the whole thing wasn’t thought through …
Maybe if they get the footy going and they don’t all collapse on the pitch they’ll start to get the country going again ….
Halifax.
You are right on the money.
And the teacher unions, including the head teacher union, are lining up saying that because of school closures and changes in working the performance review system should be scrapped this year and all teachers should just automatically get a pay increment, on top of the inflation rise, irrespective of performance.
And two fingers to the millions of private sector workers who will have no job at all shortly.
Shown on BBC news last night
Our beeb reporter quotes”
‘ Engineers, pharmacists chemists, and graduates queuing for free food’
Because they can’t get flights back home…
davylars
They all look like illegals……How Strange !
I don’t know if anyone else caught a glimpse of Good Morning Britain earlier on ITV?
They were discussing the Neil Ferguson debacle and the fact that the man who has advised the rest of us to live in self imposed exile for seven weeks, has been found in blatant contravention of his own rules.
Under normal circumstances I wouldn’t mind. I’m not holier than thou. It’s been discovered that he’s been canoodling (polite, aren’t I) with a married woman. None of my business. Usually I’d say, “so what?” but…
The rest of the population have been treated like pariahs if we so much as take our dog out for an extended walkies. Hikers have been chased from deserted hillsides by police drones. Coppers have told some people to get out of their own gardens. The lock down has created a curtain twitchers and jobsworth heaven.
So this morning it was just too delicious watching that festering and spiteful old gargoyle, John Sweeney, seething though his beard, attempting to slur everyone else and defend the indefensable.
He was spluttering and spewing out snide accusations left right and centre.
John Sweeney is a vicious, bullying little man. He gives me the creeps.
I’m not gloating at the embarrassment of prof’ Ferguson…
But I am delighted at the discomfort caused to some of his odious supporters.
I think its more serious than the usual Caught With His Pants Down scenario viz the professor .
This is the tip of the iceberg about the CLERRISSY or nomenclatura , or troughers as we know them preaching to us plebs while receiving astronomical sums of money from us and being feted by their own .
They are worse than the old aristocracy as they dont think they`re lucky and have a noblesse oblige sense of duty .
They think they`ve attained their position by virtue of their own efforts and are thus above us not because of luck or a god , but they are a god themselves .
Jeff ..There is a real pleasure to be gained in watching those of the left getting caught in their own machinery and watching their supporters squealing “leave him alone”.
Warning
Apparently today is another anniversary – this time it’s a terrorist murderer .
I’d strongly suggest avoiding twitter because supporters of the terrorist are out in force .
Let’s hope the said murderer – who I won’t name – is slow cooking down below .
I see that one of the usual propaganda outfits (not the BBC, it would be too obvious) is floating the idea of replacing the telly tax with a supplement to the Poll Tax, or even an income based tax taken at source. I believe this is a “water test” to gauge the reaction of the paying public. They must be losing revenue for some reason. Perhaps the cancelled direct debits are beginning to bite, and there are just not enough Capita goons to cope with demand.
BbcAntiToryNews say Britain is the worst in Europe
but strangely SlyNews Ed Conway has done a long thread saying its not true
See also
https://app.spectator.co.uk/2020/05/05/covid-statistics-are-just-politics-by-other-means/content.html
Comments
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/spectator-new-www/covid_statistics_are_just_politics_by_other_means/
11am Radio 4 posh school girl Anita Anand patronised her with her lecture
✅ starts with a sneer at Trump
from 11:20am she shouts “Climate Emergency”
Climate and health researcher Gerardo Sanchez explains how a measure called the ‘value of a statistical life’ influences policymakers.
Fijian climate activist Komal Kumar highlights the gap between statistics and real injustices.
..female Lomal talks about Cyclone Winston, 44 died, homes destroyed
‘Sceptical economist’ Jonathan Aldred argues that we need to move climate policy completely outside of cost-benefit thinking.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000hvbr
Presenter posh school girl Anita Anand is married to Simon Singh
It was on first on Monday
@stargrazzer was outraged t her pushing the “Climate Emergency” term
Labour’s Novara media have a lot of money and resources
They already put out this tweet
R4Today do not put out videos of the frontpages
It’s Novara that has done that
Their point is that today the newspaper review cover the sex scandal font page story on the righty frontpages
but chose a different Guardian story
, not the main frontpage
but rather one about otters
Another lefty source sais
“tweets didn’t acknowledge that the same presenters had discussed the Guardian front page story earlier in the programme.”
Interesting that some lefty Tweeters claim the Ferguson quit story is NOT on the Guardian front page
but I find it is
Update to my 11:55am
Novara have since DELETED the video tweet
so it doesn’t show up in my post
It’s the same old libmob thing
They put out a viral tweet saying R4Today had deliberately not covered a Guardian frontpage
thousands of their mob retweeted.
they get called out, so delete the tweet
.. but very few libmob will tweet a correction
At 1:07pm @novaramedia tweeted
* No, when major context is left out, that in NOT accurate.
Jon Sweeney is on Vine now
defending Ferguson .”It’s a witch hunt, he’s just made a mistake”
and says that Ferguson’s model was based on flawed Chinese data ..so he didn’t really get it wrong.”
JHB coming
(to me it’s similar to Scots Health advisor)
BTW at the start the BBC Health correspondent gave wrong advice on Covid19 immunity
.. Actually there is strong evidence that you do get immunity for months.
When you enter libmob Twitter land
you see thousands of These nasty sweary tweets from libmobbers every day
FFS Vine
“Coming up on @BBCRadio2 – @MarkJLittlewood and
@campbellclaret
debate the government’s handling of the coronavirus outbreak and look at European comparisons. Tune in to @theJeremyVine show at 12.30”
On Twitter someone asks Dr Sarah Jarvis to explain why she berated Nigel Farage for non essential travel
didnt bat an eyelid at Jeremy Vine for doing a clip on the streets of London,
Jarvis replied ..For Vine “it was under 1.5 miles from the #channel5 studio (not 50 miles) & used specifically to illustrate a point about the value of understanding tracing in #Covid19UK – really important educational issue.”
Just heard Matt Hancock was asked if police will be investigating Neil Ferguson but he said that is up to the police , who have issued a statement to say they are taking NO action. One rule for lefty professors and another rule for Nigel Farage. If all this has done one thing it has shown how the police are just a load of virtue signalling, bullying lefty bas***ds.
Stew,
Can we really expect a bubble dweller to admit that Nigel Farage’s visit to Dover was for an important and educational purpose that wasn’t being addressed by the, er, bubble?
R4 TWATO..Ms Montague I think…nasty person..
What is it with the BBC and testing? They are always looking to undermine the Govt.
They seem to think everything can be actioned as soon as they think it should be..
Reality and BBC do not meet
The BBC are perfect – they keep telling us they got it about right – whilst the Govt never do.
Laura K earlier was tweeting vaguely about testing and what ‘appears’ to be happening, finally resorting to asking the public.
#CCBGB
JA, am feeling v.smug in my bid to avoid BBC R4 News Progs: I wanted a time check and got the weather forecast plus the pips. As soon as I heard the Montacutie’s “Helllooooww” I hit the off-switch.
Classic examples of how truly p*** poor the BBC news is.
On the 1 pm news they run a story ‘why are the effects of CV19 so different for different people’.
A decent enough and fair question.
This is followed by a vox pop of two carefully selected CV19 sufferers telling us how they have suffered waves of recurrent symptoms for several weeks. This goes on for a while. At the end a medic is ‘interviewed’ who states, hey presto, that after many diseases people during recovery have good days and bad days.
In other words a decent question is drowned out by a torrent of uninformative scare-mongering. No attempt is made to explain.
Nest up. How is a family getting on, cooped up on the 15 th floor of a block of flats. They talk to the father whose name, wouldn’t you know it, is Mohammed. What are the chances of that?
There’s more. Captain Tom virtue-signalling programme tonight at 7.30.
Emotional, irrational, useless, and uninformative. And agenda-driven.
I have only just realised that Prof Ferguson didn’t leave his home but had a visit from the lady in question – it would be difficult to know this from the BBC
Why isn’t SHE the one being investigated for breaking lockdown?
Could it be she is a left wing activist (as Sluff said earlier) and has been supplying ‘organisations’ with insider information?
Me cynical about the BBC when they don’t go big on somebody in this situation?
But she wouldn’t be ‘got at’ by the BBC as if she is a left wing activist she would be one of their own.
JamesArthur
You make a good point .
I ponder on the question of ‘Was he pushed’ or as he resigned , did he ‘Jump’?
Local radio goes niche.
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Why are people from ethnic minorities so badly affected by coronavirus?
A special programme, across England: https://bbc.in/3dh18ct
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BBC where *equality* means UNEQUAL presentation
where *inclusive* mean EXCLUDING white males
Tonight’s presenters
promo vid, tweeted by about 30 local stations
Don’t post on here very often, in fact only my second time, although read comments every day. Anyway did any body watch the Govt speech last night? When the woman next to Raab took over, Angela something, doing the chart thing, they were going though some graphs. As they got to the one on tests I had to rewind it. The bar graph was blue ( NHS tests) and part of the bar was orange (private tests) as you can imagine the blue part at the end of March was nearly all blue and slowly as the months went on the bar got taller (obviously, more tests). Near the end of the month they really ramped up, but one thing got me, at the end of April the NHS tests went right down to almost the same as the beginning of April and the orange part made up the rest. Remember this was the day Matt Hancock had to hit 100,000. Do you think the doctors and people testing did this on purpose so he would miss his target? Maybe Mr Hancock (or more likely Dominic Cummings) new this, hence the 40,000 tests sent out in the post. I have tried to find the bar graph on Google but can’t for some reason. I am surprised nobody has picked this up, or maybe I’ a crazy conspiricy theorist.
Frustrated -I saw that too . I think there is a big battle going on which punters are only getting a glimpse of now with the shagging professor .
I sat through PMQs waiting for a comment about the shagger but none came.
This suggested to me that he was labours boy – it would also explain why the left was so upset about Dom Cummings being in on the SAGE .
Is SAGE now a lefty project and not a scientific one ? Are we being played by some plot to turn over Brexit?
And allowing the unprotected old in Care Homes to be killed by the virus ?
My trust has been fraying – and I think the shagging professor has done a public service by being unable to keep it in his trousers .
And if sweeney was defending him I might well be on the right track
Yes Fed, I noticed the uproar when the lefties found out Cummings sat in on the SAGE meetings, what are they scared of? Oh yes he’s a master tactician! And Sweeney was a picture this morning. He had the nerve to say this is a witch hunt and Fergusons private life was irrelevant. Not as irrelevant as 1 pair of gloves equals two, which all the broadcasters felt the need to “drop it in” every time they questioned an MP.
Could it be that Professor Shagger told his ‘lady friend’ about Cummings…
Shagging professor ha ha
Fed, bit much to expect China to do Remain’s bidding. OTOH (oops, sorry, on the other hand) it could be just that we are moving into eschatalogical times.
See my comments at the front end of this midweek thread. I am now wondering if many of the deaths in care homes are actually Covid 19 deaths, as I believe only one doctors signature is now needed on a death certificate. How do you actually know if Aunt Maud died OF Caronavrus if you haven’t had chance to see her?
The new tally will be out soon, we’ll see if they made 100K
But bottomline ..are they missing a lot of people ?
90% of tests come back negative first time these days
..(they are done a second time to make sure)
That suggests 9/10 of people tested didn’t NEED a test.
The graphs are tweeted by @10DowningStreet
Stew, I hope they are taking a random selection of unused tests at regular intervals and using them on known Covid-19 patients.
There needs to be a test of the test kits.
“Why are Welsh Assembly Members changing their name?”
“What will Assembly Members be called now?”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-52442634
Whilst we in Taffland are under the biggest threat to life since the Second World War the ‘Assembly of Fools’ rebrands its name . At what cost ?
Since Al Beeb does not run a HYS on this one, may I use this site to suggest that it be called ‘The Welsh White Elephant’ .
“UKIP call for referendum to scrap assembly in 2024”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-47611702
I’ll second that, they a shambles. All this rubbish changing name is to try to take people’s attention from the fact they are doing a terrible job with the Welsh NHS handling of the pandemic. Money, no object to them, Welsh council tax payers have very long pockets according to them.
With Liebour in charge – for ever – what good or progress can be expected?
4pm R4 new presenter on the Media Show
It’s about gaming
I don’t know why they let a white male on.
He anti-Tommy
but in his attempt to trap Tommy he got got caught out, when he illegally started asking Tommy about Darren Osbourne, whilst the trial was going on … he’d forgotten he was on livestream
I also spot JT tweeting quotes from the TR interview
where SkyNews had maliciously edited him.
Oh hang on Tidy was actually working for Sky at that time
so probably was involved.
I believe TR has called JT our a few times
but now later TR was banned from twitter so those tweets only exist on someones archive now.
Met police says no prosecution against the lefty shagging prof as he is ‘one of their own ‘ ( porkie) but no mention of Antonia statistics yet . No doubt her lefty antecedents will also be approved by plod .
One for the grubby papers maybe .
Normally I could care less but this is personal to us all
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-52544748
People have no money. People are desperate.
Does it really matter that barbers are doing a few haircuts on the side.
maybe they should be looking into why the NHS sent old people back to care homes.
Borderline entrapment isn’t it? Ok so the act hasn’t taken place, still, should a well respected state broadcaster be asking barbers to flout the law for financial gain?
‘Agent provocateur’
Loved these snippets from a couple of ‘letters’ in todays D/Mail…..
“……Matters would improve greatly if the BBC reported the news instead of trying to create it and its staff stopped asking ridiculous questions to which there are no answers….”
“…….Instead, why not put out more balanced, less whingeing news broadcasts? As for the endless questions at the daily briefings about when the lockdown will end, the BBC journalists are like children in the back of the car asking “are we there yet?”
Clearly the public are getting thoroughly pissed off with how journalists are behaving. Standing in the endless queues outside shops now, one gets chatting to fellow ‘queuers’ and invariably everyone is of the same mindset – getting fed up with the doom laden news, and the general consensus is we all have to live with it, and its pointless having a blame game, it is what it is.
I have yet to chat to anyone who is critical of the Government, in fact its more a case of “they’re doing the best they can”, which is not what the media or lefties want to hear.
BriSSLES
just Imagine that lot behaving if we were at war ?
We had a sample of them during the ‘Falklands Argie Bargie.’
It still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Our nhs is the envy of the world, they keep on saying it so it must be true.
I wonder how many deaths it would have been if we only had a health system like Germany, Japan or Scandinavia.
I think we wouldn’t be top of the league in Europe as we are now.
Number 2 in the world.
Perhaps shifting old people out of hospitals and into the Death Camps where they share the virus with the rest of the inmates isn’t such a good idea, ranking alongside the daily unchecked letting in of tens of thousands through the airports (and any beach) from everywhere in the world where they can mix freely with us all.
Still, the bobbies can stop you sunbathing in your garden or follow you with a drone if you walk your dog in the countryside and the nurses and doctors can practice new dance routines for youtube, Facebook and the holy grail, bbc tv news.
EG – I think the ‘excuse ‘ will be that the UK is very good at counting things – unlike Jonnie foreigner .
At PMQs Keir Starmer – who played well against BoJo – challenged him on the awful numbers – BoJo said we couldn’t make sensible comparisons with other countries .
Starmer then rightly held up that accursed graph of different countries they trot out every afternoon and asked why the government briefing was relying on comparing countries –
BoJo floundered on that . I felt Starmer cares more about care homes than the BoJo government does . ( by the way I’d never vote labour and am a far right winger )
And to be a bit defensive – To me Far Right means – small government – low taxes – border control – deporting foreigners who break the law – and a cut down state … and a privatised /no BBC ( troll fodder )
And the policeman in Hyde Park shouting, “No books!”
The elephant in the room is surely this; if the German system is so good then what’s the point of the NHS?
Ooooooh! Hush yo mouth.
“Brexit: Tension and uncertainty stalk trade talks”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52547938
Does this mean that Al Beeb is getting worried ?
It means they want to wind people up into thinking all this uncertainty we dont need in the midst of a pandemic. Sorry BBC you never stop do you, but your agenda has been outed ages ago.
An often repeated phrase for Al Beeb to read and digest ……………………..
“You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time”.
” How many times have you heard 70,000,000 and % in the same sentence…?”
Government Briefing
Run by the minister for setting up task forces …?
No ‘heavyweight ‘ journos – so no ‘shagger’ questions – I put up 9? Questions which common sense might have asked earlier to day . No ticks .
The numbers as usual mean nothing
Strange that the government is happy to allow The number of Care Home deaths to be delayed week after week instead of changing counting systems to give a daily provisional number – which might make the government / NHS to do something . Me thinks the ONS just say ‘puter sez no’.
The counting level is down to 75k a day – a long way from the 250k the PM wanted a couple of weeks ago.
The minister also rubbished counting techniques across Countries despite Putting up that comparative graph of nations . No journo picked up on this even though keir Starmer raised it at PMQs . There are a lot of people involved in all of this who are not the sharpest knives in the box .
RE sharpest knives, I gave up watching the briefings and bbc response after 3 weeks of the Karlsberg woman banging on and on and on about testing, and on the day the Govt achieved (however they did it) the stated target, bbc IMMEDIATELY dragged someone onto their news to say testing was useless without track and trace
enough
The BBC and PTB keep going on about BAME people suffering from Covid 19
How about seeing the difference between those on shift work or working nights and their susceptibility to the disease to the rest of the population ?
I would strongly suggest this issue is treated with the same gravitas as BAME people and London stabbings and BAME people and organised, racially aggravated gang rape of underage white children
and BAME people wandering around the south coast beaches and popping out of lorry containers without passports
and BAME people who claim asylum because they are persecuted then once they get a passport pop back off to the said country for annual holidays