These media people..truth is irrelevant and i wish they would stop talking for whole country..who is that Beth..what a dumb F
Peston…another twa..
Why do they keep asking questions he has answered..?.
First time I have watched one of these pressers. What a bunch of low-lifes. Switched off. They only need one to question as the rest all repeat with slight variations on a theme. Point scoring self centred prats the lot of them.
Doob – I think decided that this wouldn’t be the time to attack . This was the time to do the narrative and try to answer the questions
I’m glad the condition of mr Cummings ‘ son has been skirted around and not raised . If mr Cummings has raised it – it would have been a free fire zone .
The inquisition ended after 65 minutes – the jury has been invited to have their tea and return with a verdict – which – according to the MSM can only be ‘guilty ‘ – hang him and his family – they’ve got a farm ….
I’m waiting for the government briefing – which was due at 1700 Monday evening . I’ve seen them all as I am eager to get my life back .
Instead I’m watching a bloke sitting at a table in a garden talking about a trip to and from Durham .
I kind of reminds me of those McCarthy hearings or one of those congressional committees going after someone .
It is 1717 – the inquisition has been going for 46 minutes . Is this some kind of covid caused mental breakdown ?
Seen your comment -Cromwell – It is like a nazi trial – all they want to do is get the piano wire out , hang him on a meat hook and film it so that the collective media can broadcast it as A Newsnight special .
I can’t see this insanity ending – even with number of poor souls suffering and dying gladly falling .
Do you know when you watch the tv and wonder what you are watching ? That was one of them ….
It’s not the Spanish Inquisition but a Socialist Inquisition. At least 3 reporters demanded him to end his income for a) having a car, b) having a second home and c) having parents.
A certain Prof. Reicher on R4’s ‘PM’ show. He claimed that nobody understood the new message when Boris Johnson switched to the “Stay Alert, …” campaign from the “Stay at home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives.”
No challenge from the female presenter (Ms Quinn?) How can he claim that nobody understood the new guidance? Does he credit the public with no common sense? Of course the new situation is more complex than the simpler “Stay at home” – that’s the hard part of moving out of the lock-down, whoever is in power.
Mustapha- I didn’t listen to R4, but if the Quinn woman is the one who presents the Labour love-in called ‘The Westminster Hour’ on a Sunday night, I’m not surprised.
Yesterday the show was equally Labour naval-gazing, this time presented by Jo Cockburn. Unashamedly partisan, this programme, even for R4.
You can hear them both starting off slightly ‘impartial’, then slipping into an unspoken ‘we’/’us’ when discussing Labour, and how it’s doing, and what it should do…blah, blah…
Some poor devil in a petrol station southbound between Durham and London is about to get the full MSM treatment . Did they buy a coffee and packet of crisps ? Does the swine drive a diesel ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52798032
Is it this “Kathryn de Prudhoe, from Leeds”? https://twitter.com/de_prudhoe?lang=de
The “humanist and european”?
She has had a very unhappy time and deserves every sympathy, I do wonder how the bbc selected her for comment though.
bbc is just delighted to get the boot into Boris through Cummings and kick off the next election campaign.
https://twitter.com/bryson_89?lang=en
This chap too, “I was asked about the furore around Dominic Cummings. ” They just pick names at random or something? How do you get asked for comment by the bbc?
Her lot are full libmob, with EU flags in their profile
They write “European” in their profiles
They are incorrect in their concept
Cos I am also “European” in ethnic and location terms , but I am pro-Brexit
Nobody stops being European cos of Brexit.
People like her can have a kind of cognitive dissonance about getting Covid
Cos if you get it, it is partially your own fault , therefore instead of getting angry with yourself, you might lash out instead.
Joey Jones and Alex Deane the talking heads in the post event assessment on the BBC in the run up to the proper government briefing –
Which it tediously about the lives and deaths of real people and the collective fight against some boring virus …..
By the way – joey Jones said that by the end he was getting bored with it …..
I think more were watching Apollo 13 on ITV 4 with that nice Tom Hanks
BBC follows up with a virologist called professor Jonathan ball from Nottingham university -the prof has taken down his bio on his website and I can’t find out how long he has been a member of the Labour party …. or not ….
Followed by a metro kidult who sounds like he was peeing in the toilet . Naturally the kidult wants more – I reckon he wants his blood and perhaps – looking at him – other bodily fluids.
1802 and no government briefing yet –
The holy sanctuary of the 6pm news has now been moved . If China has launched a nuclear attack on the 7th fleet in the South China Sea – it doesn’t matter .
Lisa Mackenzie – a tattooed ‘ lecturer ‘ formerly of the LSE but now at Durham follows up – surprisingly she says the media are making too much of it compared to the need of the working class-
I don’t think we’ll see her on the BBC any time soon ….. ouch – blimey the BBC drone couldn’t cut her off quick enough .m
In the circumstance – as site moderator – I’m going to report what the BBC news channel is putting out .
Can’t blame you if you chose to scrol on from what I write below …
The first extract of the Dom briefing was at 1808 . The Gov briefing seems of no interest to anyone today .
Fed- I doubt Ball has any children. It seems he wanted Cummings to entrust his to ‘someone in London’. Hard to say who was more painfully partisan, Ball or ‘Sir’ Ed Davey, who still wants the scalp, at all costs. LimpDumbs – how many seats do these ‘representatives’ of the ‘British people’ have in parliament? Is it into double figures?
Stew – I would think that if you looked beneath any virologist you’d see predictions of pandemics ….
Although any one working for PHE England either kept quiet about it or were just not listened too.
Similar to those who predicted that one day jets would be used as missiles – reply – we won’t pay for better security for something that ‘might ‘ happen ….
The upcoming new threat of course would be dealing with the aftermath of a bio or dirty nuclear bomb by a terrorist group
Lisa McKenzie, lecturer at Durham University, sociology, social justice etc. She views Dom as past of the rich elite. However all I can say is how low Durham University must have fallen to employ her.
She did however not take the libmob position
She said the people were more interested in their own problems
“They know these elite people bend the rules, it is not news to them” I paraphrase
How many more times do the people of this country have to say NO to lib mob Socilism. We dont want it its a plain as can be. Why do our inept government give them the platform ? I’m afraid that’s it for me if he gives into this lot. Millions and millions of people in this country would have done the same only a few 1000 hateful entitled and overpayed left wing journalists think he is the incarnation of Satan. Ignore them and who the he’ll is listening to them ??? Its time that Boris grew some or is he part of this lib mob establishment? he is after all one of them.
And while I’m at it any news on Diane Abbots son ?
Angela Rayner clearly unimpressed with Cummings Press briefing performance…
We will await her comments on Steven Kinnocks behaviour visiting his father during lockdown to celibrate his Birthday…Was Rayner involved in the decision to promote Steven Kinnock to the Shadow cabinet days later. We need to know ,or the Labour party leadership look like they lack a moral compass
The beeb narrative continues apace, even after the event (surprise!) Endless streams of Lefties follow a brief look at mildly consrvative opinion.
Just looking at some woman attacking Cummings for being arrogant by taking up so much time in a press conference. Well, that’s exactly what her ilk has been howling for for days on end. He can’t win. But then, that’s not the point; the real target remains BoJo and his ‘judgement’.
Is there an honest journalist around, who will admit that that’s the scalp they really want. With the courage to come out and confess it’s not about Cummings, Durham, Coronavirus, etc? Poor old Surkeer will have to wait a little longer for glory.
Now we know what the Salem witch trials must have been like. Equally hypocritical ‘judges’?
Still, we’re all certain to forget about travellers in small boats, coming from France. Nigel, who might have broached that topic, has vanished entirely from the beeb screens. They don’t want to know his opinion, it might start sounding genuinly conservative. Not for beeb. As for Gerard Batten, was he ever on them? Presumably neither represent the British people.
Well, that was toe-curlingly awful. As has been said, rather reminiscent of the McCarthy trials. It’s quite clear that it is not the sort of thing that Dominic Cummings is used to.
From my admittedly biased point of view I think his evident inexperience may have helped him. His answers weren’t your typical politician’s confident blustering, but rather came across as those of an ordinary guy trying his best, somewhat inarticulately, to honestly explain a situation to a clearly hostile audience.
The media did themselves no favours. They asked a variant of the same question over and over. They evidently hadn’t listened to the previous questions and answers and so were evidently not interested in them, but just in putting forward their own point of view. Plus ça change.
I’m not sure a lot of light was generated. There has been much reference on social media to the fact the child is autistic, but that was never touched upon. Perhaps it had been made clear that was out of bounds, and even our foetid media would know that was crossing a line. To those who bothered to listen, it seems inarguable that it was a situation where the regulations allowed for discretion, and the best line was when Dominic said he had made his decisions on the basis of what would cause the least risk to the least number of people. That is what it boils down to. But those out for his blood won’t care.
Will it be enough? I think, unless he’s found to have been telling porkies, it should be. The media will huff and puff but have nowhere else to go. And so will turn to the next target. But if there have been lies, they will be discovered. And then he is toast.
Excellent post Roland, I agree fully and was thinking so before I read it ????
I thought Dominic Cummings came out on top over the journa…. sorry activists, as he is clearly not media savvy and not polished like Bliar, BoJo etc. It worked in his favour in my opinion and the activists made a complete show of themselves with their ‘variations on a theme’ questions ????
They may as well have played ‘I Got You Babe’ by Sonny and Cher from Groundhog Day, whilst each activist walked up to ask their question ????
65 minutes and no ‘killer ‘ question . I think whoever was blowing a horn at the start of the inquisition has just turned up at st thomases’ Hospital to have it surgically removed .
Sadly – I fear that when Mr Cummings gets home tonight the vermin will be camped outside his home and they’ll be there in the morning .
And someone on twitter wrote today ‘has his house been burnt down yet ?’…..
I fear only ‘events ‘ are going to end this witch-hunt by the BBC and others ……
You have to feel sorry for the Children and relatives of so called journalists…..no compassion or caring qualities at all !
Dom needed a Tommy Gun on the table that would have made them ask sensible questions ! , Horrendous BBC and the rest of them at their normal worst !
Before Cummings gave his side of the argument, Adam Boulton assured the poor sods who pay their Sky subscriptions, that the only possible reason for a delay in the event starting was that the government were in free fall.
Then we had to suffer Beth Rigby, who inexplicably hadn’t heard a word Cummings said pompously asserted he should resign. As Sky, along with the BBC, Guardian and Daily Mirror were proved wrong in their allegations perhaps it they who should resign.
Before Cummings’ statement Fatty Boulton and his mate Jon Something or other were practically creaming themselves about the prospect of getting Cummings sacked and taking a big bite out of BoJo. Afterwards Fatty had a Guardian writer, Stephen Bush, and Darren Grimes, the guy who was cleared by the police after having been wrongly fined by the extreme far Left Electoral Commission. Fatty introduced him as, iirc, a ‘former colleague’ of Cummings. Grimes tried to put him right but Fatty talked over him. How uninformed and pig-ignorant do you have to be to earn £100k’s like Fatty?
After, he asked Mad Al Campbell, the man who,with the war criminal Blair has arguably been partly liable for the outbreak of violence, murder and terrorism both in the ME and the rest of the world, what he thought of Cummings’ statement and responses to questions. Campbell, the arch liar, quite brazenly described BoJo as a liar and a charlatan without Fatty pointing out Campbell’s previous.
Vlad
Strange how some chief constables will put up a drone to film people but for that lot there is no legal control – or any media source saying anything about it …..
Right – let’s promote the hounding and vilification of that medic (and his family) who promised to leave his job in the NHS and f–k off over the horizon if Dominic Cummings did not resign today.
Somehow I suspect that he and his Union Reps will find some excuse as to why he should not follow his own guidelines regarding his behaviour….. but, on the other hand, will never accept any reason Dominic Cummings puts forward for his actions.
BoJo is doing the daily briefing.
Shall we guess:
-who is going to be asking the questions afterwards, and
-what those questions are going to be about.
I would venture this opinion:
-it won’t be about the sad state of the British economy, the death of thousands of small and large businesses, the wild Sunak spending spree and where the money will come from to pay for all this, or
-the activity or otherwise of the Border Farce
-what’s going on with Brexit (remember Brexit?)
BoJo is doing the daily briefing.
Shall we guess:
-who of the journos are going to be asking the questions afterwards, and
-what those questions are going to be about.
I would venture this opinion:
-it won’t be about the sad state of the British economy, the death of thousands of small and large businesses, the wild Sunak spending spree and where the money will come from to pay for all this, or
-the activity or otherwise of the Border Farce
-what’s going on with Brexit (remember Brexit?)
Julia Hartley-Brewer
@JuliaHB1
Nothing Cummings has said suggests his circumstances were exceptional.
He & his wife should have stayed at home as everyone else did. Only his wife was ill when they drove to Durham. Their child was never at risk. The Barnard Castle story doesn’t add up remotely.
5:08 PM · May 25, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Did she not listen? I used to think she was sensible…seems not.
The Left will now be going through every word looking for a way to twist it.
I thought he came across as a normal bloke..and did well…but as we know that wont stop the gutter press…
Why do I feel, having seen the TV coverage of the mobbing and downright threatening behaviour of the press and media outside of Dominic Cummings’ house over the past 36 hours, that claims by the media that he should have called the police if he or his family felt under threat at any time over the past weeks, rather than seeking to isolate his family from such abuse, ring just a bit hollow.
And, why, given all the evidence clearly in front of their eyes,have the police allowed such hatred, and threatening behaviour directed, not least (since the press knew that Dominic Cummings was not personally at home), at his wife and 4-year old child, to continue.
richard – I wonder whether the ‘Antifa’ – the violent German (high-profile) shock troops, who rampage and target people and property on behalf of the “Christian Democrat”/Socialist Alliance, have set up a branch in Britain?
The police ignoring their behaviour, or even tacitly approving of it/joining in (oh yes, I kid you not) is a well-established pattern over there. A few days ago they smashed up an elderly man in Stuttgart, putting him into hospital, seriously injured. Merkel partner, the ‘conservative’ CSU (Bavarian) boss, Horst Seehofer had called for a ‘war on the Right’, and they promptly went out to do his bidding. Apparently the poor bloke was an innocent who got in their way.
We can count on the journo mob – especially the beeb and the Gruniad, endlessly picking over every little piece of the DC interview, in the hope of finding weaknesses. The tiresome Ian Watson says there are a lot of questions outstanding, as I write.
We are now into eyesight territory. This could be the New Frontier, if the traitors in the Tory party start taking a backseat (unlikely) in the media witch hunt. Or perhaps some of them will drift over to the LimpDumbs? I mean, Ed Davey’s old-fashioned all-out partisan attack on BJ/DC must surely have looked attractive to them?
I watched a few minutes of the debacle on YT before having to turn it off. It was patently a Kangaroo Court of sorts and you could only arrive at the conclusion that nothing DC said would alter the opinions of the jury.
One thing’s for sure: the levels of bitterness toward anything ‘Right’ show no sign of bottoming out. The ‘Left’ are daily showing signs of disregarding any law and, as we know, the ‘real’ law will turn a blind eye. Open warfare and conflict is well on its way heralding a complete breakdown in societal norms. Sooner the better in my view. It needs a ‘sort-out’ to be sure.
Undoubtedly our media is biased but I also think it is filled with the sort of people who would sit on a branch thirty foot up a tree and then use a chain saw to remove the branch from the trunk.
Mentally they can’t see a problem with that, they are already detached from the tree, they are just observers, even though they clearly hope their ‘observations’ will bring about change.
Funny you should say that G as I am currently reading Gods fury Englands fire, a history of the English civil war. Thought I’d do a bit of historical research to pick up on any mistakes either side made so I’m ahead of the game. Joking apart, certain parallels are quite spooky.
I don’t think that Dominic Cummings did a lot wrong.
Maybe somehow to have told Boris Johnson before he went.
And I know Boris was ill. AND secondly wasn’t he important enough
for a driver to have come up to Durham and bring him and
his family home if his eye sight was troubling him ?
However what a schadenfreud media we have. Lady Haw-Haw
from the BBC. And quite a few other ladies who don’t look
like they have been doing their one hour exercise during the
lockdown.
Pathetic, so shoe shops still closed, deemed non essential , unlike garden centers..
So I’ll have to wear my winter boots for another 3 weeks.
My mate Covid will sort these squabbling politicians out come the autumn
Can I get a hair cut now ? My wrap over is on my shoulder and my mullet is heading Deep South – but on the upside – Specsavers is open so I’ll be able to see again …..
Hey, it’s that time again! That racist, half-white “historian” is back tomorrow night; and guess what, he be talkin bout slavery again! Quelle surprise! And can anyone confirm, that he just has a normal history degree? I know on biogs;
“What exactly does this Cummings do”
He’s supposed to Get Brexit Done and Dusted . Its been dragging on for far too long now. The Libtard Meeja tried to scupper it by nailing Cummings . Boris should go on the offensive now and begin by exposing Al Beeb’s anti Brexit Bias and move to end the compulsory Telly Tax that robs from the poor to give to the rich.
I would be very surprised if the Meeja did not have a go at David Frost next because he appears to be doing a good job at the moment.
Eddy – the Dom provides the essential service of focusing the Far Lefts Collective MSM as the ultimate hate figure .
They hate him because he outsmarted them and the whole Remain empire on brexit – and then The General Election and then began to try to reshape the Civil Service and the relationship of government with the vermin media .
They and the civil service and the Remain enemy just want him Dead .
The idea that Jeremy Hunt and Sajid Javid Are plotting the overthrow is a delicate one ….
It’s a sin when the wealth is a scare necessity, housing , greedily ammased during an extreme shortage, and when the collectors rig the game by limiting land to build on and have policies to increase the countries population every year.
The latest , thousands of digngy illegals, and talk of Hong Kong arrivals,
Something : Piers Morgan is NOT gaining momentum
Yes his tweets are getting thousands of likes
but at about half the rate
He was getting 80K for some yesterday
now less than 40K
and his sympathy tweet when Boris was in hospital got 187K
Metrolib favourite Emma Kennedy
getting *caught out* when trying to call hypocrisy
against “Guido”
She got 2,000 Likes anyway
She said “Guido Fawkes lost their shit because Diane Abbott had a mojito on a train?”
Actually Guido has supported her, cos he doesn’t support banning alcohol on trains Tweets
Wow Sargon “Dominic Cummings Destroys the Remainer Media”
.. that is interesting cos yesterday Sargon
said ‘yeh the media are nuts, but I don’t like Cummings’
Fair assessment by Mr Sargon . The extract of Beff Rigby was a good demonstration of the Beff meeting someone capable of taking her on .
Most of the journos stayed silent to listen although the C4 Gary the Gibbon couldn’t hold back and spoke over answers to the question he had asked .
I was worried – in the inquisition – by the table . Mr Cummings passed the table test . The enemy would have a camera on his legs and feet to monitor physical reactions as opposed to verbal ones and get some media friendly ‘lefty expert ‘ to ‘interpret ‘ mr Cummings and show he was ‘lying ‘. Never happened ….
Ritula Shah rounds off the 10pm R4 news with a fair debate between two guests. Matthew D Ancona and someone from the Independent (which is anything but independent). There are TWO in this ‘debate’, so it’s going to be lively, right? If there’s someone from the Indy, the other guy will present the conservative case, right?
But hullo? Here’s an unexpected thing: both turn out to be anti-Cummings, and vehemently so. The laughable beeb manipulation of their narrative is as strong as ever. Now and then we catch a glimpse of the real issue: Boris. D Ancona assures us that he is not predicting that Surkeer will be PM in five years’ time, but that’s exactly what he’s putting out there, even as he speaks.
How stupid does beeb think we are?
i ask this as someone who is no particular fan of either Cummings or Boris, so I’m socially distanced enough to see what is going on. An anti-Tory campaign from the word ‘go’, dressed up as an issue with Cummings, who is really not very impressive, but was singled out for political reasons. To satisfy the sanctemoneous and the virtue signallers in the main?
BTW Farage went quickly and his own show
and so continued own mode swearing “he didn’t comply with the rule”
maybe it’s a London thing
Farage accused him of lying.
but actually seems against firing him now.
In #Orwellian #Britain2020
UKmedia is dominated by #DirtyDirtySmearMerchants like SlyNewsUK
Who carefully CONSTRUCT & curate news for agenda pushing purposes #PRtrickery
Andrew Neil retweeted
Whatever your views on Cummings and what he did, is it really necessary to try and doorstep his parents now?
To anyone who wonders why he hadn't publicised earlier that he was going to Durham – this will help to explain why.
They really are disgusting. If I said what I’d like to do to them, FU would be hitting the censor button and I’d probably have a visit from Plod. Let’s just say a Chinese burn is too good for them.
Maxi, that’s just the weirdest form of whataboutery
What you posted in no way has anything to do with UKmedia being dominated by #DirtyDirtySmearMerchants
… Yes the day after Stuch bery’s friend deliberately chose a day TR was not in the country to make a livestream of going to the house where TR’s children live, but not TR, yes TR did go round to knock on Stuch bery’s door
and the police chose not to stop him.
Hey Stew – give the troll some slack eh ? He needs the attention we give him – even with uninspiring 0218 cut and pastes – the defeat – loss of the EU – no Corbyn government – a destroyed Liberal leader and party – a despatched biased commons speaker – a covid crisis which has not led to overwhelmed NHS facilities yet …..
And now witnessing the failure of his friends in the MSM to bring down the government through mr Cummings . And even worse for the likes of the troll – The PM and mr Cummings and the Health Secretary survived Chinese virus infection …
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These media people..truth is irrelevant and i wish they would stop talking for whole country..who is that Beth..what a dumb F
Peston…another twa..
Why do they keep asking questions he has answered..?.
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Now we have Beff. “How can you countenance stayin’ on and not resignin’?” I’ve often asked that about her.
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First time I have watched one of these pressers. What a bunch of low-lifes. Switched off. They only need one to question as the rest all repeat with slight variations on a theme. Point scoring self centred prats the lot of them.
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Please Boris, come and sack the poor bugger and save his dignity before it gets worse.
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This is like watching one of those nazi trials when whatever you say you will be found guilty. Terrible.
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Trial by media, all apparently speaking on behalf of the ‘British people’. Don’t you just love the arrogance…
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A perfect opportunity to give these r sole lefty journalists a piece of much of the nation’s mind ……and they bottle it !!!!
Should have asked President Trump to do the briefing.
What a let down . What a wet lettuce. What a chance gone .
Basically, what a f in shambles.
Boris needs to wake the hell up and stand his bloody corner.
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Doob – I think decided that this wouldn’t be the time to attack . This was the time to do the narrative and try to answer the questions
I’m glad the condition of mr Cummings ‘ son has been skirted around and not raised . If mr Cummings has raised it – it would have been a free fire zone .
The inquisition ended after 65 minutes – the jury has been invited to have their tea and return with a verdict – which – according to the MSM can only be ‘guilty ‘ – hang him and his family – they’ve got a farm ….
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I’m waiting for the government briefing – which was due at 1700 Monday evening . I’ve seen them all as I am eager to get my life back .
Instead I’m watching a bloke sitting at a table in a garden talking about a trip to and from Durham .
I kind of reminds me of those McCarthy hearings or one of those congressional committees going after someone .
It is 1717 – the inquisition has been going for 46 minutes . Is this some kind of covid caused mental breakdown ?
Seen your comment -Cromwell – It is like a nazi trial – all they want to do is get the piano wire out , hang him on a meat hook and film it so that the collective media can broadcast it as A Newsnight special .
I can’t see this insanity ending – even with number of poor souls suffering and dying gladly falling .
Do you know when you watch the tv and wonder what you are watching ? That was one of them ….
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It’s not the Spanish Inquisition but a Socialist Inquisition. At least 3 reporters demanded him to end his income for a) having a car, b) having a second home and c) having parents.
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It’s quite clear no one is interested in the answers. What a waste of time and a bloody embarrassment.
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Why do I get the impression that the media are asking the questions they had ready early this afternoon irrespective of whatever Cummings said?
“Don’t you understand that many people will be feeling angry …?”
Well, perhaps many of them will have changed their minds now that Dom has explained the circumstances.
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Some light relief.
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Priceless
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That women in the photo I think was the one that said, “you say you didn’t go to your second home… which is a priviledge position to have”.
I bet she voted Labour in the last election.
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The idiot he asked if anyone had got any more questions, he’ll never get away.
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I think that inadvertently worked, because we couldn’t hear the questions.
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A certain Prof. Reicher on R4’s ‘PM’ show. He claimed that nobody understood the new message when Boris Johnson switched to the “Stay Alert, …” campaign from the “Stay at home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives.”
No challenge from the female presenter (Ms Quinn?) How can he claim that nobody understood the new guidance? Does he credit the public with no common sense? Of course the new situation is more complex than the simpler “Stay at home” – that’s the hard part of moving out of the lock-down, whoever is in power.
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Mustapha- I didn’t listen to R4, but if the Quinn woman is the one who presents the Labour love-in called ‘The Westminster Hour’ on a Sunday night, I’m not surprised.
Yesterday the show was equally Labour naval-gazing, this time presented by Jo Cockburn. Unashamedly partisan, this programme, even for R4.
You can hear them both starting off slightly ‘impartial’, then slipping into an unspoken ‘we’/’us’ when discussing Labour, and how it’s doing, and what it should do…blah, blah…
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Some poor devil in a petrol station southbound between Durham and London is about to get the full MSM treatment . Did they buy a coffee and packet of crisps ? Does the swine drive a diesel ?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52798032
Is it this “Kathryn de Prudhoe, from Leeds”?
https://twitter.com/de_prudhoe?lang=de
The “humanist and european”?
She has had a very unhappy time and deserves every sympathy, I do wonder how the bbc selected her for comment though.
bbc is just delighted to get the boot into Boris through Cummings and kick off the next election campaign.
https://twitter.com/bryson_89?lang=en
This chap too, “I was asked about the furore around Dominic Cummings. ” They just pick names at random or something? How do you get asked for comment by the bbc?
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Oldspeaker she sent a sweary anti Tory tweet to Beth Rigby
that is probably why she got selected
Her lot are full libmob, with EU flags in their profile
They write “European” in their profiles
They are incorrect in their concept
Cos I am also “European” in ethnic and location terms , but I am pro-Brexit
Nobody stops being European cos of Brexit.
People like her can have a kind of cognitive dissonance about getting Covid
Cos if you get it, it is partially your own fault , therefore instead of getting angry with yourself, you might lash out instead.
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Joey Jones and Alex Deane the talking heads in the post event assessment on the BBC in the run up to the proper government briefing –
Which it tediously about the lives and deaths of real people and the collective fight against some boring virus …..
By the way – joey Jones said that by the end he was getting bored with it …..
I think more were watching Apollo 13 on ITV 4 with that nice Tom Hanks
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BBC follows up with a virologist called professor Jonathan ball from Nottingham university -the prof has taken down his bio on his website and I can’t find out how long he has been a member of the Labour party …. or not ….
Followed by a metro kidult who sounds like he was peeing in the toilet . Naturally the kidult wants more – I reckon he wants his blood and perhaps – looking at him – other bodily fluids.
1802 and no government briefing yet –
The holy sanctuary of the 6pm news has now been moved . If China has launched a nuclear attack on the 7th fleet in the South China Sea – it doesn’t matter .
Lisa Mackenzie – a tattooed ‘ lecturer ‘ formerly of the LSE but now at Durham follows up – surprisingly she says the media are making too much of it compared to the need of the working class-
I don’t think we’ll see her on the BBC any time soon ….. ouch – blimey the BBC drone couldn’t cut her off quick enough .m
In the circumstance – as site moderator – I’m going to report what the BBC news channel is putting out .
Can’t blame you if you chose to scrol on from what I write below …
The first extract of the Dom briefing was at 1808 . The Gov briefing seems of no interest to anyone today .
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Fed- I doubt Ball has any children. It seems he wanted Cummings to entrust his to ‘someone in London’. Hard to say who was more painfully partisan, Ball or ‘Sir’ Ed Davey, who still wants the scalp, at all costs. LimpDumbs – how many seats do these ‘representatives’ of the ‘British people’ have in parliament? Is it into double figures?
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@JonathanKBall is Prof of Virology @UniofNottingham
Ex-@BritSciAssoc #MediaFellowship at ?????
Go on guess where
Yep he is an ex beeboid
Politics ??
When Adam Rutherford said Corbyn would never get elected
Ball subtly tweeted back “Tory”
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Apr 6, 2020
” And believe me I’m no tory.”
He has a lot of these subtle sneers at Tories
You know that letter for experts opposing government policy that turned out to have a lot of students on
He had something to do with that.
He’s written a few immunolgy articles in the Guardian
Mostly at the time of Ebola
But give him credit for his 2013 prediion
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I’m guessing he is an anti-Tory green
cos I remember he’s directly told me before that he isn’t a socialist party person.
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Stew – I would think that if you looked beneath any virologist you’d see predictions of pandemics ….
Although any one working for PHE England either kept quiet about it or were just not listened too.
Similar to those who predicted that one day jets would be used as missiles – reply – we won’t pay for better security for something that ‘might ‘ happen ….
The upcoming new threat of course would be dealing with the aftermath of a bio or dirty nuclear bomb by a terrorist group
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Lisa McKenzie, lecturer at Durham University, sociology, social justice etc. She views Dom as past of the rich elite. However all I can say is how low Durham University must have fallen to employ her.
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She did however not take the libmob position
She said the people were more interested in their own problems
“They know these elite people bend the rules, it is not news to them” I paraphrase
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How many more times do the people of this country have to say NO to lib mob Socilism. We dont want it its a plain as can be. Why do our inept government give them the platform ? I’m afraid that’s it for me if he gives into this lot. Millions and millions of people in this country would have done the same only a few 1000 hateful entitled and overpayed left wing journalists think he is the incarnation of Satan. Ignore them and who the he’ll is listening to them ??? Its time that Boris grew some or is he part of this lib mob establishment? he is after all one of them.
And while I’m at it any news on Diane Abbots son ?
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Angela Rayner clearly unimpressed with Cummings Press briefing performance…
We will await her comments on Steven Kinnocks behaviour visiting his father during lockdown to celibrate his Birthday…Was Rayner involved in the decision to promote Steven Kinnock to the Shadow cabinet days later. We need to know ,or the Labour party leadership look like they lack a moral compass
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The beeb narrative continues apace, even after the event (surprise!) Endless streams of Lefties follow a brief look at mildly consrvative opinion.
Just looking at some woman attacking Cummings for being arrogant by taking up so much time in a press conference. Well, that’s exactly what her ilk has been howling for for days on end. He can’t win. But then, that’s not the point; the real target remains BoJo and his ‘judgement’.
Is there an honest journalist around, who will admit that that’s the scalp they really want. With the courage to come out and confess it’s not about Cummings, Durham, Coronavirus, etc? Poor old Surkeer will have to wait a little longer for glory.
Now we know what the Salem witch trials must have been like. Equally hypocritical ‘judges’?
Still, we’re all certain to forget about travellers in small boats, coming from France. Nigel, who might have broached that topic, has vanished entirely from the beeb screens. They don’t want to know his opinion, it might start sounding genuinly conservative. Not for beeb. As for Gerard Batten, was he ever on them? Presumably neither represent the British people.
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Well, that was toe-curlingly awful. As has been said, rather reminiscent of the McCarthy trials. It’s quite clear that it is not the sort of thing that Dominic Cummings is used to.
From my admittedly biased point of view I think his evident inexperience may have helped him. His answers weren’t your typical politician’s confident blustering, but rather came across as those of an ordinary guy trying his best, somewhat inarticulately, to honestly explain a situation to a clearly hostile audience.
The media did themselves no favours. They asked a variant of the same question over and over. They evidently hadn’t listened to the previous questions and answers and so were evidently not interested in them, but just in putting forward their own point of view. Plus ça change.
I’m not sure a lot of light was generated. There has been much reference on social media to the fact the child is autistic, but that was never touched upon. Perhaps it had been made clear that was out of bounds, and even our foetid media would know that was crossing a line. To those who bothered to listen, it seems inarguable that it was a situation where the regulations allowed for discretion, and the best line was when Dominic said he had made his decisions on the basis of what would cause the least risk to the least number of people. That is what it boils down to. But those out for his blood won’t care.
Will it be enough? I think, unless he’s found to have been telling porkies, it should be. The media will huff and puff but have nowhere else to go. And so will turn to the next target. But if there have been lies, they will be discovered. And then he is toast.
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Excellent post Roland, I agree fully and was thinking so before I read it ????
I thought Dominic Cummings came out on top over the journa…. sorry activists, as he is clearly not media savvy and not polished like Bliar, BoJo etc. It worked in his favour in my opinion and the activists made a complete show of themselves with their ‘variations on a theme’ questions ????
They may as well have played ‘I Got You Babe’ by Sonny and Cher from Groundhog Day, whilst each activist walked up to ask their question ????
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But agree, if he’s found out to have lied then he’s ‘toast’ ????
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65 minutes and no ‘killer ‘ question . I think whoever was blowing a horn at the start of the inquisition has just turned up at st thomases’ Hospital to have it surgically removed .
Sadly – I fear that when Mr Cummings gets home tonight the vermin will be camped outside his home and they’ll be there in the morning .
And someone on twitter wrote today ‘has his house been burnt down yet ?’…..
I fear only ‘events ‘ are going to end this witch-hunt by the BBC and others ……
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Part McCarthy, part Stalinist show trials, and part Inquisition.
We are here to judge your soul, Cummings.
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Sinnerman, where you gonna run to?
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You have to feel sorry for the Children and relatives of so called journalists…..no compassion or caring qualities at all !
Dom needed a Tommy Gun on the table that would have made them ask sensible questions ! , Horrendous BBC and the rest of them at their normal worst !
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Before Cummings gave his side of the argument, Adam Boulton assured the poor sods who pay their Sky subscriptions, that the only possible reason for a delay in the event starting was that the government were in free fall.
Then we had to suffer Beth Rigby, who inexplicably hadn’t heard a word Cummings said pompously asserted he should resign. As Sky, along with the BBC, Guardian and Daily Mirror were proved wrong in their allegations perhaps it they who should resign.
What do you think Adam, Beth?
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Before Cummings’ statement Fatty Boulton and his mate Jon Something or other were practically creaming themselves about the prospect of getting Cummings sacked and taking a big bite out of BoJo. Afterwards Fatty had a Guardian writer, Stephen Bush, and Darren Grimes, the guy who was cleared by the police after having been wrongly fined by the extreme far Left Electoral Commission. Fatty introduced him as, iirc, a ‘former colleague’ of Cummings. Grimes tried to put him right but Fatty talked over him. How uninformed and pig-ignorant do you have to be to earn £100k’s like Fatty?
After, he asked Mad Al Campbell, the man who,with the war criminal Blair has arguably been partly liable for the outbreak of violence, murder and terrorism both in the ME and the rest of the world, what he thought of Cummings’ statement and responses to questions. Campbell, the arch liar, quite brazenly described BoJo as a liar and a charlatan without Fatty pointing out Campbell’s previous.
I’m not a bit surprised!
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Here’s the hypocritical sanctimonious press mob hounding Cummings about social distancing. No doubt a few beeboids among them. Spot the irony.
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Vlad
Strange how some chief constables will put up a drone to film people but for that lot there is no legal control – or any media source saying anything about it …..
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Right – let’s promote the hounding and vilification of that medic (and his family) who promised to leave his job in the NHS and f–k off over the horizon if Dominic Cummings did not resign today.
Somehow I suspect that he and his Union Reps will find some excuse as to why he should not follow his own guidelines regarding his behaviour….. but, on the other hand, will never accept any reason Dominic Cummings puts forward for his actions.
Surely, what’s good for the goose…..
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BoJo is doing the daily briefing.
Shall we guess:
-who is going to be asking the questions afterwards, and
-what those questions are going to be about.
I would venture this opinion:
-it won’t be about the sad state of the British economy, the death of thousands of small and large businesses, the wild Sunak spending spree and where the money will come from to pay for all this, or
-the activity or otherwise of the Border Farce
-what’s going on with Brexit (remember Brexit?)
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BoJo is doing the daily briefing.
Shall we guess:
-who of the journos are going to be asking the questions afterwards, and
-what those questions are going to be about.
I would venture this opinion:
-it won’t be about the sad state of the British economy, the death of thousands of small and large businesses, the wild Sunak spending spree and where the money will come from to pay for all this, or
-the activity or otherwise of the Border Farce
-what’s going on with Brexit (remember Brexit?)
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Julia Hartley-Brewer
@JuliaHB1
Nothing Cummings has said suggests his circumstances were exceptional.
He & his wife should have stayed at home as everyone else did. Only his wife was ill when they drove to Durham. Their child was never at risk. The Barnard Castle story doesn’t add up remotely.
5:08 PM · May 25, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
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Did she not listen? I used to think she was sensible…seems not.
The Left will now be going through every word looking for a way to twist it.
I thought he came across as a normal bloke..and did well…but as we know that wont stop the gutter press…
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Why do I feel, having seen the TV coverage of the mobbing and downright threatening behaviour of the press and media outside of Dominic Cummings’ house over the past 36 hours, that claims by the media that he should have called the police if he or his family felt under threat at any time over the past weeks, rather than seeking to isolate his family from such abuse, ring just a bit hollow.
And, why, given all the evidence clearly in front of their eyes,have the police allowed such hatred, and threatening behaviour directed, not least (since the press knew that Dominic Cummings was not personally at home), at his wife and 4-year old child, to continue.
Couldn’t be political prejudice, could it ?
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richard – I wonder whether the ‘Antifa’ – the violent German (high-profile) shock troops, who rampage and target people and property on behalf of the “Christian Democrat”/Socialist Alliance, have set up a branch in Britain?
The police ignoring their behaviour, or even tacitly approving of it/joining in (oh yes, I kid you not) is a well-established pattern over there. A few days ago they smashed up an elderly man in Stuttgart, putting him into hospital, seriously injured. Merkel partner, the ‘conservative’ CSU (Bavarian) boss, Horst Seehofer had called for a ‘war on the Right’, and they promptly went out to do his bidding. Apparently the poor bloke was an innocent who got in their way.
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G.w.f. I use to really like Julia Hartley-Brewer but she’s gone the way of all left media. Sarcastic and bitter.
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We can count on the journo mob – especially the beeb and the Gruniad, endlessly picking over every little piece of the DC interview, in the hope of finding weaknesses. The tiresome Ian Watson says there are a lot of questions outstanding, as I write.
We are now into eyesight territory. This could be the New Frontier, if the traitors in the Tory party start taking a backseat (unlikely) in the media witch hunt. Or perhaps some of them will drift over to the LimpDumbs? I mean, Ed Davey’s old-fashioned all-out partisan attack on BJ/DC must surely have looked attractive to them?
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Cummings idea that his London house wasn’t safe
cos of frequent protests outside aimed at him
Does show that his situation is not like the common man.
He should have his own security team
and a place at Chequers anyway.
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Just watched Boris give his briefing, he looks a worried man.
Nice to see Boris remind the Guardian lady that her paper had printed a falsehood.
Must say it’s becoming tiresome watching the media desperately trying to get the scalp of Cummings, disgusting group of parasites.
It really is sad that this once great country is rapidly turning into a sh-thole and being led by the leftwing media.
I genuinely believe certain parts of the media really don’t care what happens as long as they get there grubby hands on power…
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I watched a few minutes of the debacle on YT before having to turn it off. It was patently a Kangaroo Court of sorts and you could only arrive at the conclusion that nothing DC said would alter the opinions of the jury.
One thing’s for sure: the levels of bitterness toward anything ‘Right’ show no sign of bottoming out. The ‘Left’ are daily showing signs of disregarding any law and, as we know, the ‘real’ law will turn a blind eye. Open warfare and conflict is well on its way heralding a complete breakdown in societal norms. Sooner the better in my view. It needs a ‘sort-out’ to be sure.
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G..
I really think you are correct.
I think this country is genuinely on a knife edge and has been for a while, and the left wing media are the biggest culprits
The boil needs to lanced and sooner the better
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dafydd
Start with abolishing the TV Licence Fee . If you still pay, stop now.
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It’s at the stage where feeling so p–sed off I may just do it.
Not sure what I’m more angry at , the appalling bias of the media and BBC or the lack of action shown by the government to sort the bias out
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Do it, do it, do it!, ????
It should be the former more so in my opinion dafydd ????
As Del Boy said, you know it makes sense ????
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Undoubtedly our media is biased but I also think it is filled with the sort of people who would sit on a branch thirty foot up a tree and then use a chain saw to remove the branch from the trunk.
Mentally they can’t see a problem with that, they are already detached from the tree, they are just observers, even though they clearly hope their ‘observations’ will bring about change.
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Funny you should say that G as I am currently reading Gods fury Englands fire, a history of the English civil war. Thought I’d do a bit of historical research to pick up on any mistakes either side made so I’m ahead of the game. Joking apart, certain parallels are quite spooky.
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I don’t think that Dominic Cummings did a lot wrong.
Maybe somehow to have told Boris Johnson before he went.
And I know Boris was ill. AND secondly wasn’t he important enough
for a driver to have come up to Durham and bring him and
his family home if his eye sight was troubling him ?
However what a schadenfreud media we have. Lady Haw-Haw
from the BBC. And quite a few other ladies who don’t look
like they have been doing their one hour exercise during the
lockdown.
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Pathetic, so shoe shops still closed, deemed non essential , unlike garden centers..
So I’ll have to wear my winter boots for another 3 weeks.
My mate Covid will sort these squabbling politicians out come the autumn
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Can I get a hair cut now ? My wrap over is on my shoulder and my mullet is heading Deep South – but on the upside – Specsavers is open so I’ll be able to see again …..
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Hey, it’s that time again! That racist, half-white “historian” is back tomorrow night; and guess what, he be talkin bout slavery again! Quelle surprise! And can anyone confirm, that he just has a normal history degree? I know on biogs;
https://www.biogs.com/david-olusoga,
it says he only has a BA? And naturally, the race pimp that he is, is now a “Professa” somewhere.
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BBC Reality Check bears the same relationship to reality as the German Democratic Republic did to democracy.
Amongst all this, they have managed to omit the salient point that the woods Cummings walked in were in the grounds of the property.
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Luckily the family had a spare house lying around..
What exactly does this Cummings do , that he had to rush back to London so urgently?
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“What exactly does this Cummings do”
He’s supposed to Get Brexit Done and Dusted . Its been dragging on for far too long now. The Libtard Meeja tried to scupper it by nailing Cummings . Boris should go on the offensive now and begin by exposing Al Beeb’s anti Brexit Bias and move to end the compulsory Telly Tax that robs from the poor to give to the rich.
I would be very surprised if the Meeja did not have a go at David Frost next because he appears to be doing a good job at the moment.
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Eddy – the Dom provides the essential service of focusing the Far Lefts Collective MSM as the ultimate hate figure .
They hate him because he outsmarted them and the whole Remain empire on brexit – and then The General Election and then began to try to reshape the Civil Service and the relationship of government with the vermin media .
They and the civil service and the Remain enemy just want him Dead .
The idea that Jeremy Hunt and Sajid Javid Are plotting the overthrow is a delicate one ….
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Wealth is not a sin – envy is .if Corbyn had got in we’d all be lucky to have one state provided home …. socialists would get a better one of course…
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It’s a sin when the wealth is a scare necessity, housing , greedily ammased during an extreme shortage, and when the collectors rig the game by limiting land to build on and have policies to increase the countries population every year.
The latest , thousands of digngy illegals, and talk of Hong Kong arrivals,
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Fedup2,
“Wealth is not a sin – envy is.”
– What wealthy people say to poor people.
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Question: What’s special about the number 11,111 ?
Answer: It’s the number of telly tax payers needed to fund Gary Lineker for one year.
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Envy, the classic fifth ‘deadly sin’.
But as Bertrand Russell said:
“People who live a life which is unnatural beyond a point are likely to be filled with envy, malice and uncharitableness.”
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maxincony
Robbing the poor to give to the “Wealthy” is what I say about Al Beeb’s way of raising funds, The Telly Tax. You paid yours yet ?
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Something : Piers Morgan is NOT gaining momentum
Yes his tweets are getting thousands of likes
but at about half the rate
He was getting 80K for some yesterday
now less than 40K
and his sympathy tweet when Boris was in hospital got 187K
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The next big lockdown rule breaker Leo the irish PM
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… ah, but he’s a pro-EU homosexual, so all is forgiven.
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Metrolib favourite Emma Kennedy
getting *caught out* when trying to call hypocrisy
against “Guido”
She got 2,000 Likes anyway
She said “Guido Fawkes lost their shit because Diane Abbott had a mojito on a train?”
Actually Guido has supported her, cos he doesn’t support banning alcohol on trains
Tweets
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another from Guido
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#itsallaboutbrexit ????
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David Vance and David Sedgwick discuss the bBC.
1 hour long.
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Wow Sargon “Dominic Cummings Destroys the Remainer Media”
.. that is interesting cos yesterday Sargon
said ‘yeh the media are nuts, but I don’t like Cummings’
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Fair assessment by Mr Sargon . The extract of Beff Rigby was a good demonstration of the Beff meeting someone capable of taking her on .
Most of the journos stayed silent to listen although the C4 Gary the Gibbon couldn’t hold back and spoke over answers to the question he had asked .
I was worried – in the inquisition – by the table . Mr Cummings passed the table test . The enemy would have a camera on his legs and feet to monitor physical reactions as opposed to verbal ones and get some media friendly ‘lefty expert ‘ to ‘interpret ‘ mr Cummings and show he was ‘lying ‘. Never happened ….
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Ritula Shah rounds off the 10pm R4 news with a fair debate between two guests. Matthew D Ancona and someone from the Independent (which is anything but independent). There are TWO in this ‘debate’, so it’s going to be lively, right? If there’s someone from the Indy, the other guy will present the conservative case, right?
But hullo? Here’s an unexpected thing: both turn out to be anti-Cummings, and vehemently so. The laughable beeb manipulation of their narrative is as strong as ever. Now and then we catch a glimpse of the real issue: Boris. D Ancona assures us that he is not predicting that Surkeer will be PM in five years’ time, but that’s exactly what he’s putting out there, even as he speaks.
How stupid does beeb think we are?
i ask this as someone who is no particular fan of either Cummings or Boris, so I’m socially distanced enough to see what is going on. An anti-Tory campaign from the word ‘go’, dressed up as an issue with Cummings, who is really not very impressive, but was singled out for political reasons. To satisfy the sanctemoneous and the virtue signallers in the main?
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Only tongue in cheek apparently but its just a matter of time.
https://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news/national/18472696.musician-proposes-boo-boris-protest-pm-defends-dominic-cummings/
“ Musician proposes ‘boo for Boris’ protest after PM defends Dominic Cummings”
Devil finds work and all that.
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…and a press release quietly drops at the desk of Stuart Hughes.
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Oldspeaker: At last, someone who has publicly identified the real target of the last few days, and come out into the open…
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David Vance has just started a new thread about his NE video
meanwhile Melanie’s new article has got praise
https://www.melaniephillips.com/bullying-double-standards-absence-humanity/
BTW Farage went quickly and his own show
and so continued own mode swearing “he didn’t comply with the rule”
maybe it’s a London thing
Farage accused him of lying.
but actually seems against firing him now.
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I can’t improve on this comment.
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In #Orwellian #Britain2020
UKmedia is dominated by #DirtyDirtySmearMerchants like SlyNewsUK
Who carefully CONSTRUCT & curate news for agenda pushing purposes #PRtrickery
Andrew Neil retweeted
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They really are disgusting. If I said what I’d like to do to them, FU would be hitting the censor button and I’d probably have a visit from Plod. Let’s just say a Chinese burn is too good for them.
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StewGreen,
“In #Orwellian #Britain2020
UKmedia is dominated by #DirtyDirtySmearMerchants…”
StewGreen,
“ I appear to be watching [Tommy Robinson] live banging on Mike Stuchbery’s house
people are coming to shake TR’s hand
police are there
hope TR is OK”
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Oh look the cut and paste troll crawled out from under its bridge.
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Maxi, that’s just the weirdest form of whataboutery
What you posted in no way has anything to do with UKmedia being dominated by #DirtyDirtySmearMerchants
… Yes the day after Stuch bery’s friend deliberately chose a day TR was not in the country to make a livestream of going to the house where TR’s children live, but not TR, yes TR did go round to knock on Stuch bery’s door
and the police chose not to stop him.
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Hey Stew – give the troll some slack eh ? He needs the attention we give him – even with uninspiring 0218 cut and pastes – the defeat – loss of the EU – no Corbyn government – a destroyed Liberal leader and party – a despatched biased commons speaker – a covid crisis which has not led to overwhelmed NHS facilities yet …..
And now witnessing the failure of his friends in the MSM to bring down the government through mr Cummings . And even worse for the likes of the troll – The PM and mr Cummings and the Health Secretary survived Chinese virus infection …
Cut and paste troll – cut and paste
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