356 Responses to Start the Week 27 July 2020

  1. Emmanuel Goldstein says:



    • Fedup2 says:

      There always has to be someone going first isnt there?


      • Scroblene says:

        Not if you’re woke, a sjw, a leftie tutor, a snowflake, white, a President Trump supporter…



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  2. Deborah says:

    Antiques Roadshow didn’t disappoint. Crathes Castle near Aberdeen, no BAMES visiting until Fiona wanted advice on some jewels. Suddenly 2 black children and a young man were in the circle around her and of course the young black girl was asked her opinion. Shame she was too excited to be coherent.


    • Dave S says:

      They try too hard. We know they are now.


    • Old Goat says:

      They just had a rummage through the props van, and selected one or two suitable characters. The props van is always present, with a small supply of BAMES at the ready, should none turn up voluntarily at the event. Which is often.


  3. Deborah says:

    Countryfile didn’t disappoint either. We saw Adam visit his old Highland bull, no idea who the cameraman was; we saw Tom Heap about genetic engineering and no idea who the cameraman was, John Craven talking about the calendars and again no idea who was behind the camera. But Mr Hamza in the north of Scotland and we had half the item showing the cameraman. We were supposed to think he was alone filming the deer but I am sure I saw a shadow of someone filming him.

    And as for Tom Heap, the bile in his voice when he suggested plant breeding might improve farmers profits could be felt through the screen. Mr D suggested it might be nice if farmers could make a profit.


    • BRISSLES says:

      Well, smack my bum, the Beeb really are trying to get the BAMEs on the countryside trail. Sean Fletcher – Countryfile/Good Morning and Sunday Morning Live, will soon be rucksacking his way around the coastline of Wales. Good luck with that. Wonder whether we’ll see June Sarpong following in his wake in her Diversity Role – providing she can find a suitable wig.


      • john in cheshire says:

        Isn’t this a return to the propaganda that was pushed on is during the last Labour party years of socialist tyranny? I remember those things: more blacks and oaks need to go to the countryside and the locals must do more to encourage them and make them feel welcome. And
        White people don’t have enough non-white friends and must make efforts to have non-white friends.

        The name Barbara Roche comes to mind in this regard.

        If these commies have their way, we won’t even be allowed to choose our own friends.


        • BRISSLES says:

          “White people don’t have enough non-white friends and must make efforts to have non-white friends.”

          I have a laugh and a bit of banter with my black Hermes courier, but even he would think I’d lost the plot if I suddenly came ‘on to him’ like a creeping rash, – he’d run a bloody mile, and with good reason to !


  4. Guest Who says:

    And, again, Lewis gets into a War and Peace thread bemoaning…. something his entire building does.


  5. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    The British Broadcasting Company no longer deserves to have British in its title.

    It stopped reporting news some time ago and now only pushes agendas – and one of those agendas is the destruction of Britain, its culture, its history and its people.

    It no longer represents Britain, rather it represents everything that is against Britain. It has become our enemy.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      You are right. I think BBC should be like BP or TSB. The initials used to mean something, now they are merely a brand identity.

      I think the BBC would welcome this, they are surely embarrassed to be identified with racist, neo-imperialist, majority white country such as Britain.


  6. Sluff says:

    I’ve been watching Match of the Day
    All the Premier league games in an hour and a half.
    But including Lineker and the talking heads after each game.
    So there’s very little time for actual football.per match.

    But guess what? The BBC choose to show the teams ‘Taking the Knee’ for every single match !!!!!! Yep. That’s their priority. Not the football.

    How totally sick-inducing to see the sheer hypocrisy by which multi-millionaire footballers decide to support an organisation which wants to destroy capitalism.

    But how even more sick-inducing that the moronic BBC, at our expense, deliberately seek to indoctrinate us by showing this pathetic virtue signalling on each and every opportunity.


    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      The BBC choose to show the teams ‘Taking the Knee’ for every single match

      It doesn’t even make sense as it looks like some sort of sick reenactment of the knee to Mr Floyd George that killed him.


      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        I’ve been thinking the same Broadcasting, what is it about exactly?

        On the one hand you’ve got the horrible death of Floyd, why would you want to reenact that? On the other, you have the sort of one legged kneel men do when they’re about to propose, or be knighted by the queen, or to tie their shoelace, if they’ve got a dodgy hip like my 77 year old dad… what is the relevance? I just don’t get it.

        It makes about as much sense as insisting people say ‘Black Lives Matter’, but NEVER ‘All Lives Matter’… well, yes black lives DO matter (obviously, duh), but no more, nor less than anyone elses’… or is that ‘hate speak’ now? I’m genuinely confused, and so pissed off with it all, I just don’t care any more.


        • Scroblene says:

          I had to get down on one knee to get something off the bottom shelf in the pantry, and couldn’t get back up again!

          I had to request Senora O’Blene to rescue me, and place a chair nearby, so that I could pull myself up again!

          And all for a bottle of elderberry cordial – (to go with some Vodka)!

          I ask you, why don’t Pensioners Lives Matter?


        • john in cheshire says:

          This video from Josh Bernstein, 20 minutes, throws some more light on the events leading to the death of Mr Floyd. As Josh Bernstein says, the MMSM ( mainstream marxist media ) had blood on its hands because of how they have reported on the matter.


          • G.W.F. says:

            John in Cheshire

            Suppose, just suppose the jury finds the other cops not guilty. Then see what happens.


          • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

            The bit on George Floyd starts 5 minutes in.


        • Banania says:

          Or the sort of kneel one-legged men do. That would be more entertaining.


      • Rich says:


        I watched the goals and highlights of all of today’s games on YouTube at about 6.30. All you really want to see and produced by Sky.

        No virtue signalling and without the inane Lineker and chums, just the stuff that matters. I could have watched any of these matches live through an easily accessible streaming service but as I do not have a TV licence that would of course be illegal.

        I do the same during the season, the highlights are usually available about half an hour after the match has finished, and I haven’t watched either Football Focus or MotD for a couple of years.

        Don’t pay for it and don’t miss it.


    • Dave S says:

      Are they still doing it? The footballers will never learn.


      • Oldspeaker says:

        It’s no justification Dave but premier footballers are living the dream compared to most of us, I think they’d dance the fandango in a pink tutu before every game to keep it. And the way the world is turning it may well be a future requirement.


      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        Are they still doing it? The footballers will never learn.

        They have been ordered to do it by the Premier League. The “Taking the Knee” ceremony occurs before the match starts. The referee blows his whistle, the players must then take the knee which I think lasts for about a minute. Then the referee blows his whistle to end the ceremony. Then the game can begin. It has been instituted for all Premier League matches for the foreseeable future.

        The same is true for all FA cup matches. I believe it has also been instituted into all lower division English Football matches. The English Cricket team also have to take the knee before every international match.


    • Wink1 says:

      I know , it sickened me too . Why every single match? I also prayed that one of the footballers would have the courage to stand while the other filthy rich hypocrites knelt but unfortunately no!!


      • Scroblene says:

        I can see the disdain on the faces of the twelve players of the third fifteen of Nargwitch Veterans RFC, before a rain-sodden game against Bagford Vipers Olfarts…

        ‘Rugger off’ would be a misheard statement…


  7. BRISSLES says:

    Learn ? how can they, you need to have a brain for that function.


  8. Sluff says:

    The BBC have been bigging up the ‘disaster’ of the Spanish travel ban all day. They’ve been turning over every stone until they find people who are ‘devastated’ by the turn of events.

    It speaks volumes for the attitude of the BBC to this country that they regard the loss of tens of millions of pounds of British tourist revenue by a foreign country as a ‘disaster’.

    The fact that spending such money in our own country instead might be advantageous is just not something the seditious BBC can comprehend.


  9. Fred Stubber says:

    Mary Rose: “The New Evidence”
    Not the BBC! It was a repeat on Channel Four the other night. I missed it the first time so I recorded it. What a disappointment! The programme makers seemed to be obsessed with the idea that many of the crew were negros. OK, maybe they were, and if so it’s an interesting fact. But to go on and on and on about it; to make it the mainstay of the whole programme, well, it starts to feel that we’re being brainwashed; that we’re having our thoughts and feelings about race altered.

    Actually I don’t mind a bit of brainwashing, now and then, but they’re overdoing it massively with the ‘race’ stuff on the telly these days, and it gets irritating. It sometimes seems like it’s every second programme, and the adverts are just ridiculous with totally unfeasible racial mixes. Maybe they think we should be ‘race blind’ and not notice, but unfortunately we aren’t, so we start to muse about race and don’t even notice the product they’re trying to sell us!

    It gets into everything. ‘The Repair Shop’ last week (which is supposed to be about repairing things) was actually about all the immigrants that have arrived here in the last 100 years, and what lovely people they are, and how lucky we are to have them. (Weirdly, nothing about the thousands of children that have been raped by largely Pakistani-origin gangs, or the fact that the ghettos of Leicester, Oldham, etc, are probably going to cause a second Corona wave this winter).

    They’re going too far with all this anti-racist virtue signalling. In their media bubble they can’t see that it’s becoming counter-productive. Ordinary people are getting seriously irritated and are beginning to ask questions; questions about race and immigration that otherwise wouldn’t occur to them.
    In this country we rub along just fine with everyone if we’re left alone, because we aren’t natural racists. But broadcast media’s obsession with race is starting to cause resentment, and a feeling that we’re being led up the garden path. That can’t be good for race relations.



    • JamesArthur says:


      I said same thing to my lady Whiff..yesterday. I think you are right as I hear it from my patients and friends now – whereas never did in the past.

      It is setting race relations back years..but that seems to be what the BBC and media want


    • JimS says:

      I switched on the TV to hear what was clearly a black voice. I stayed to hear what he was talking about, ah, non-British people on Mary Rose, I can see where this is going.

      I changed channel. A sheep giving birth to a black lamb.

      I switched off the TV.


    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      Mary Rose: “The New Evidence”obsessed with the idea that many of the crew were negros … they [went] … on and on and on about it … [it was] the mainstay of the whole programme …

      Nowadays this is the only type of thing that gets research funding, that academic journals will accept, that academics will gain appointment and promotion for and which goes straight into the university BA degree and pseudo BSc degree curricula.


      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        Personally, I think it’s genuinely interesting if some on board the Mary Rose were ‘black’ (whatever that means in this context). I’d like to know more about where they came from, how they came to be there, and why? It would be very early for black people in England and predates the earliest known English voyages to West Africa by at least several decades. I am a bit of a history nerd though, and I can see it wouldn’t be others’ cup of tea.

        More of an issue, to me, is whether the information presented could be trusted to be rigorously impartial and free from bias, and I have to say that I’m not (at all) convinced that anything from the BBC could be. To be honest, it could just be complete claptrap, or worse, some form of propaganda trying to push a particular agenda.

        This could have been a really interesting article too: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-53444752 ‘My Nigerian great-grandfather sold slaves’, and this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-53527405 ‘Genetic impact of African slave trade revealed in DNA study’.

        However, in my honest opinion, they’ve both been so heavily ‘varnished’ with the brush of ‘correct think’ as to be rendered a confusing mishmash that, whatever the original authors intended, no longer logically adds up. It’s like trying to read scholarly articles written during the heyday of the Soviet Union, after a dozen Party members have taken a free hand with a fat black crayon.

        History, like science, is only meaningful if it’s approached with complete impartiality, and the BBC is incapable of that these days.


    • tarien says:

      WLM-(White Lives Matter) Fred, slowly through utter shitty duplicity, the indigenous white people of these north europeam islands, who through the centuries past have opened up so much of this world to so many that, have for thousands of years remained subjugated by despots, and sadly are still being controlled by dictatorships. However today we have all become slaves; slaves to the powers of the mafia banksters of finance; slaves to western propaganda; to the lobbies and their giant all dominating corporations-to the War industry, mostly because we are led to believe via the media/BBC et al, what we are told about ever-increasing terrorism that needs to be fought with eternal wars. Slaves to the pharma industry; to senseless consumerism and foremost to greed, endless greed that drives endless growth, nurturing endless competition formenting adversity, destroying solidarity, instead of amicable coopertaion for harmonious human cohabitation. (I’m off to set up my harmonious commune !) But you take the point no doubt.


  10. tomo says:

    Heck of a detail indeed…. 5 AK shots followed by 3 pistol shots in the video under the Tweet.

    Mostly peaceful

    Of course the BBC has a slightly different perspective – stewgreen – is there a record of stealth edits?



    • vlad says:

      The rioters are not ‘anti-racist’ as the lying beeb would have us believe. They’re anti-white, anti-capitalist, anti-American, anti-democratic, anti-mainstream, anti-conservative, anti-law-and-order, anti-establishment, anti-Republican, anti-Trump, anti-family, anti-Christian anarcho-marxist revolutionaries.

      The whole stinking mess being egged on by the Democrats and the leftist msm to jeopardise Trump’s chances of re-election.



      • vlad says:

        Black Lives Matter co-founder describes herself as ‘trained Marxist’



        • Guest Who says:


          From: Patrice, USA
          To: Sasha, Oxford, U.K.

          They are in the sub-basement, W1A 1AA, sista.

          Pat xx



          • vlad says:

            “I feel like I need to buy a firearm, because clearly this is going to keep happening. Enough is enough,” Gallant furiously typed.

            Ha ha ha, nothing more delicious than when a libtard gets hoist by his own petard.

            Note to all the stupid Antifa / BLM sympathisers and fellow travellers: every revolution ends up devouring its own children. Ask Danton and Robespierre. Or ask the millions murdered in Stalin’s Great Purge or Mao’s Cultural Revolution.

            Your revolutionary thinking is never ideologically pure enough for the ravenous monster you’ve unleashed.



        • Sluff says:

          Good find Vlad.
          One to keep and stick down the BBC’s throat at regular intervals.
          Not least during ‘Match of the Day’ and on all occasions when the BBC marxists feature ‘Taking the Knee’.


    • Banania says:

      What is a victim? I am confused.


  11. taffman says:

    What is Al Beeb not telling us about the Nantes Cathedral fire ?


    • Guest Who says:

      It was mostly smoke?


      • Sluff says:

        It’s multiple choice quiz time.

        The Nantes Cathedral fire was started by

        a. a white middle class Brexiteer
        b. a Far Right white supremacist supporter of Nigel Farage.
        c. a supporter of Geert Wilders and Marine le Pen
        c. a Rwandan asylum seeker


    • Dobyns says:

      It was mostly peaceful arson


  12. Guest Who says:

    20,000 staff, £5,000,000,000 budget, and…


    • JimS says:

      Before ‘lock down’ Tesco gave a discount on multiple purchases of some of their ‘dieting’ products.

      Then ‘panic buying’ came in and all those offers stopped so now it costs more to diet.

      The more the government micro-manages the more the lack (impossibility?) of ‘joined-up’ thinking* becomes apparent.

      * Isn’t it remarkable how the BBC can do ‘joined-up’ when it comes to promoting an idea across, news, drama, comedy, gardening, cooking, farming etc. but can’t link mass immigration with shortages, social unrest etc.


  13. digg says:

    Helen Whately MP standing her ground in a BBC interview making the governments case for the Spain quarantine rules but faced with an aggressive accusative barrage clearly designed to throw mud and amplify the noises off-stage coming from Labour.

    If the government had not acted, the BBC would no doubt be accusing them of flooding the UK with a second wave.

    It’s political BBC bias with a left agenda and nothing less.


    • JamesArthur says:

      At the end of the day – anyone going aboard knew this was a possibility – and took the chance – it is a bit like complaining when your horse doesn’t win..

      No personal responsibility – no sense of consequences from actions – BBC too happy to find the numbskulls who blame the Govt…

      However I am not sure why 14 days quarantine is needed if they can be tested as soon as they land and get result in 24 hours

      BBC just stirring it as usual…


      • Fedup2 says:

        I’m overseas. In my previous working life I sometimes put contingency plans together . When I left UK last week I factored just about every thing in .

        I know others are sadly well and truly screwed by instant lockdowns and the like but that is the operating environment – moaning is part of the ritual – but so is working out options .

        I wonder if the government were clear enough that what has happened with Spain could really happen – not the need for a crushing 14 day total lockdown when the individual norm has been 7 days . Or maybe send everyone to a stalagluft like they did at the start -to be tested and released ….

        Obviously running the worst case scenario flights back to UK could be stopped until the spike is controlled – I don’t know how people would react to that . They need to get the number 10 podium out again and have the ‘chiefs’ talk to the public and not announce policy the way they have been doing .


  14. Sluff says:

    The things we (need to ) do for this website.
    Excruciating experience listening to Toady.

    At 0710 Knobson and the editors go into max s***-stirring mode again over the Spanish quarantine.

    He interviews two women, the second of which wants to go on holiday to Spain after recovering from, wait for it, cancer. What are the chances of that?

    But both women were fairly understanding of the government position, so the feeding of lines reached epic proportions.

    ‘Do you think the evil Tory government should have given you more notice of the new rules and a personalised lear jet so you could enjoy your holiday free of charge in a 5 star hotel?’.
    He didn’t ask that but it was not far short.

    Then at about 0725 we get a session on the government’s new anti-obesity agenda.
    Leaving aside whether this is a good idea or not. The story quickly descends into a tirade against poverty and government cuts. Yep, it’s nothing to do with individuals filling their gobs at all, but the evil Tory government again.

    The off switch was an even more blessed relief than usual.
    Unutterably awful statist bias.


    • Guest Who says:

      Toenails sets the tone* and Brekky amplifies, using ‘analysis’ from a bloke flying around the world for a publication read by a dozen people.

      People seem wise now.

      *From ITBB


      Mac • 2 days ago
      I see that Laura Keunssberg has been promoted to Senior Political ‘Tone’ Editor:

      I wonder who will pick up the other roles of Chief Mood Correspondent and Deputy Feelings Analyst. It makes old-fashioned news reporting – y’know, just telling us what happened – seem so passe.


  15. AsISeeIt says:

    What can we learn today from the newspaper front pages – aside from the fact the press love a Royal soap opera and that folks who seem to think they will catch the dreaded lurgy on a 5-minute trip to the corner shop, unless they are on board with compulsory mock surgical faceware, now seem suddenly to be devastated their fortnight on the Costa is threatened with supposed chaos.

    A couple of items induce a groan. The Star warns ‘not long til the footie season starts’. All that effort to ‘get into Europe’ – good luck with that tricky away leg in Barcelona, chaps.

    The beaufiful game, eh? Visions of kids kicking a tin can about the street, jumpers for goal posts. Reality of the necessities of what Motty might term ‘the modern game’ – Broadcast rights, fake crowd soundtrack, a dodgy VAR system and a taking of the knee. Kick it out, I say!

    The FT confirms what we suspected – all this vaunted green energy tosh is just a boondoggle – ‘Eco-warrior investors, asset manangers join the climate change fight’.

    The Times has a hint of economic reality looming on the horizon – ‘Chancellor considers online sales tax in bid to save high street.’ By the way, have you noticed how every tax rise has to have some virtuous-sounding excuse these days?

    The Guardian’s grasp on economics is flimsy at best but it also warns of impending tax hikes ‘Plan for over-40s to pay more tax for social care’.

    They do say the only certainties in life are death and taxes – Chinese virus is certain to give us a dollop of both.

    We can escape the dreaded Video Assistant Referee by simply switching off. How to escape the dreaded reality?

    Perhaps the Telegraph has the solution – it shakes off its former fusty image with “Treat depression with magic mushrooms”


    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit – but what about the Jonnie Depp show ? You haven’t mentioned The. Most . Important . Story . As the Keith Richards tribute impersonator watches the transfer of his wealth to the bank Accounts of shyster lawyers – did he do whatever it was ? Will he get divorced from someone . ?

      Do you remember that there used to be ‘a silly Season ?’- perhaps the advent of twitter et al meant there is no ‘season ‘ anymore – it’s just constant silliness – a word which is related by blood to ‘insanity ‘….


      • AsISeeIt says:

        ‘Do you remember that there used to be ‘a silly Season?’

        Football season seems to have expanded, without the hindrance of actual crowds or the guidence of on-the-pitch referees, to be year-round tv fodder now, and so does the media silly season.

        The piratical Mrs Johnny Depp has walked her plank well and truly into the shark-infested waters.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Having once been a regular at prem games – and the argument over sitting v standing – I remember one line being floated about the need for crowds at all …they cost a lot in effort for the cash they raise and are a nuisance …. the real money is sponsorship and the TV …. not withstanding that “amazon United ©️will be playing ‘Netflix rovers ‘©️ pretty soon in the ‘Mohammed stadium “ perhaps they wont bother with crowds any more – just the stands off for hotels and ‘family friendly ‘viewing restaurants’…..


        • BRISSLES says:

          “The piratical Mrs Johnny Depp has walked her plank well and truly into the shark-infested waters.”

          I’m not following the case, but I love the soundbites, they’re the best laugh of the day. Its an early pantomime, and even the judge must be hard pressed to suppress a giggle. And a bad boy like Depp will always be attractive to women (sigh!)


  16. StewGreen says:

    11am R4 How Muslims, BAME have wacky conspiracy theories about Covid
    I’ll add detail later


    • StewGreen says:

      Presented by Dr Fozia Hayat of Bradford Royal Infirmary
      surprised to be bombarded with fake .. some of the messages were coming from prominent people in the local community.
      – one even told her she would be: “held responsible in the court of Allah for the deaths of these people, for negligence in this life, and life is very short.”

      Mohammed Azeem a patient on the hospital’s intensive care unit, who says he deliberately put off coming to hospital because he’d been hearing the claims on social media.
      his mother died before he regained consciousness. He says he has realised the dangers of fake news and wants to help alert others.

      – Oh she speaks to white people as well
      She speaks to the anti-5G campaigner, Mark Steel, who says that no one is safe from the alleged impact of 5G and the latest electromagnetic wave induced pandemic.
      (5G is not dangerous to the public, corps don’t risk getting sued)

      – She also hears from a hospital worker who admits to following the conspiracy theories and siding with them even in light of the impact she sees on the wards and her medical training.

      – In the African community a group of mothers she meets: they are so worried that even if a vaccine became available they wouldn’t think about taking it.
      ‘it’s a device being used to eradicate different ethnic groups’

      – Dr Sam Khan, shares a video his parents have seen circulating on major news channels in Pakistan. It purports to show how vaccines distributed by Bill Gates involve secret microchips.

      – In UK a patient’s children accusing medical staff of giving their father a lethal injection.


  17. Fedup2 says:

    Sluff ,
    I have great respect for the likes of you and Up2 who provide the daily record of Toady . As you might know I used to do it – but the cost in stress and broken radios was very high. My neighbours often complained that “ we don’t want to hear that sort of language being shouted so early in the day “ . Hats off .

    As for Spain ……..

    I can but smile as I think of the amount of entries here from March onward of aircraft arriving from far more ‘biologically dangerous ‘ places and nothing – nothing – being put in by way of restrictions .

    The ‘justification ‘ was something like“ the virus is here anyway so a few thousand more with it doesn’t matter “.

    For me the government NHS must provide data on the number returning , how many were found to be covid positive after this 14 ! Day quarantine , how many visits to addresses were made ( who does that ?) , how many breaches were found ? How many prosecutions were made ?

    Normally I am anti red tape but these people are have a pretty savage prison sentence imposed on them for the most tenuous of reasons and both they and the voters deserve to know .

    Basically – the bigger the restriction – the more public data should be made available to the public in a timely and sensible form – which is something that has been noticeably absent since this began and has made the NHS PHE HMG look shaky at best and incompetent / negligent at worse .

    I caught some bubble dwellers chewing the fat at the weekend talking about the end of the ‘political year ‘ and talking about the Chinese virus as though ‘it’s done ‘, I ve got to say I got effing angry because that mindset will increase cases .

    Now go wash your hands With soap -minimum 15 seconds – don’t forget your wrists …..


  18. JamesArthur says:

    I am listening to R4..and they are pressing Helen Whately for why the Govt didn’t tell people sooner about Spain & Covid – he just doesn’t seem to understand that we all knew it was a risk to go on holiday…and that the Govt had acted as things changed

    The Minister is giving it back ‘ Knobinson (or Justin; can’t tell them, apart) acts like a T**t when she does…aggressive and defensive

    He started the attack with covid despite the fact she came onto talk about fat campaign….and switched to fat campaign when he had asked his covid questions – not interested in her answers
    Whole interview was aggressive and attacking not probing, interesting or informative

    You can tell they really are not interested in the answers but simply their own questions and gotcha moments
    When will the Tories do something about the BBC?


  19. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Watch out, Nick Robinson wants to tax carrots and parsnips

    Yes, that’s right. He doesn’t like the possible thought of paying higher and top rate Income Tax increased by ten or twenty per cent on his BBC salary of £350,000 and extra freelance earnings to help pay for the Pandemic Lockdown in the UK. He was hectoring Health Minister, Helen Whately MP, on the subject of a sugar tax on food.

    Those who know their food science, know that root vegetables – carrots are often given by parents unwittingly as snack food to toddlers – are high in sugar. The BBC don’t do science, as was apparent in the half hour of TOADY that I listened to from 8 a.m.. Hitting the OFF switch was quite a relief.

    The other reason the BBC want a sugar tax on food – apart from avoiding an Income Tax top rate of 80% on their vast incomes – is that it will cause inflation and provide them with further likely benefits: a chance to complain that a Conservative Government has caused high inflation and is driving people to Food Banks because they are unemployed and cannot afford to buy highly taxed food. It will also give Beeboids the benefit of inflating away their mortgages and demanding ever higher pay from Licence Fee taxpayers.


  20. Fedup2 says:

    Up2 – imagine a ‘government obesity strategy ‘ to ‘save our NHS ‘( again ) which bans TV foodie cooking programmes ? Jeez – people love that baking show ( never seen it ) with that Naga tickbox doing cooking…. what would the BBC put on ?

    Someone on twitter mused that it’s not about controlling access to food it’s about imposing personal responsibility and personal control on the population – good luck – as they say – with that . One of mrs Thatchers’ biggest failing – giving choice and freedom but assuming people would be ‘responsible ‘ …..


    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, I didn’t think of web-sites: the BBC’s own and MSN, Yahoo News, etc., etc. all have food items/recipe suggestions pictured on their pages ….. all day, never mind, the BBC programmes on top of it all. Some good may come if the BBC are forced to scrap Jay Raynor and his silly food programme on R4.

      Will Jenni Murray’s replacement (is it the more than adequately built JN Garvey?) have to scrap all those cookery and food bits on Wimmins Hour?

      What the BBC don’t do is really investigate honestly. They are governed by always wanting an angle of attack.

      Some BBC staffers have done their own ‘freelance’ bits. John Humphrys did a book on food. Believe it or not but taxes can have a detrimental effect on diet as well: JH discovered that transport taxes, especially the Fuel Duty Escalator, had had a detrimental effect on what people ate.


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:


      Have you noticed that virtually all the cooking shows recipes are full of sugar, cream, fat, oil, salt and anything else usually regarded as unhealthy or fattening.

      “Just a bit full fat cream in here, I know it’s naughty but…..”

      See if you can find any shows using healthy recipes.

      Having said that, when I was young there was plenty of fatty stuff around such as bread and dripping with salt but we did spend most of the time outside playing and not sat in front of a screen all day (and night)


      • Fedup2 says:

        Ah yes – bread and dripping … part of my diet …. then we’d sit down and spend hours in front of the Radiogramme … and then radio 1 came along …


        • Scroblene says:

          “and then radio 1 came along”.

          Probably the worst day of my life, Fed…

          Asinine, strained, squealing, ageing ‘hippies’, some long hair, several twats at once, and a dive in the quality decent music for normal people!

          Luckily decent bands began to emerge, and after a ‘slot’ on TOTP, would start a move for better stuff, but not after Harold Wilson (Labour, Tossershire), had nailed the public to a silly load of crap, which is even more dire these days, as they put on (c)rap, and gryme, and similar tosh, and believe that their balding heads know better…

          It’s a bit like watching/hearing your parents dancing the twist really!


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      There needs to be a government obesity strategy for the NHS. Recently had cause to visit the local hospital. Aside from being semi-deserted, the most noticeable feature were the huge nurses hanging around twiddling their thumbs. My impression was that now that problems such as cancer, strokes, heart disease and eveything else have all been magically solved, they have nothing to do other than engage in pie-eating contests. Or maybe they are using Hattie Jacques as a role model, who was Britain’s most important nursing figure after Florence Nightingale.


  21. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – Watch out, watch out …. again

    On this morning’s programme, the BBC repeated certain claims about obesity: that two thirds of adults in England are overweight or obese. I take claims like that with a several pinches of salt – ooops!, sorry, Doc – several grains of salt.

    Keep an eye on photos on the BBC’s own web-site in the next few days as well as in the print media and see if that claim is true. OK, so you don’t know that someone pictured is living in England but as a rough check look at photos and count. The BBC House Journal and the Metro this a.m. both have pics of adult travellers returning. Check it here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-53548875


  22. Fedup2 says:

    As editor of the Fed Recorder – I’m running pieces on

    ‘the Most obese MPs and Peers ‘
    Is your MP fat ?
    Fattest BBC presenter awards
    How much subsidy do Palace of Westminster eateries get ?
    Didn’t they want us to eat more in August ?

    Isn’t it really about calories in versus calories out ?


    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, good idea. Judging by the pic of the PM on two front pages this a.m., the Bojo weight loss programme has some way to go.

      Yes, Rishi served up a discount on eating out – eating out where you have no control over portion control! Yes, I know you can leave excess food on the plate, but if you have paid for it then you might as well …..

      Calories in, types of calories in, plus how many times a day, plus activity plus exercise plus age plus body frame. All are factors in body weight. Am sure some people heard Blair & Co say ‘”Five Portions of Fruit and Vegetables a Day” and then got it muddled with ‘Five Portions of Fruit and Vegetables a Day’ five times a day.



    • AsISeeIt says:

      For those who would have us believe they do things better in Europe…

      I’ll swap you two Borises for a Belgian Maggie

      May I present, the Belgian Minister for health


      Or, Maggie ate the block, presumably after rolling it up and deciding not to flick it at the opposition.

      Belgium’s Health Minister caught picking boogers out of her nose live on Zoom



      • StewGreen says:

        Yawn, clickbait from April
        Of course it’s fine to pick your nose when you are at home
        if that is your chosen way of clearing your airways.

        It’s different from being in public space where someone else’s bug could be on your fingers, so you shouldn’t be touching your face.

        Critics have said that she does not set the right example as Health Minister due to her obesity, and she has answered that “I know I’m not a model but you have to see what’s inside, not the packaging”.”

        “In 2015, she became the most popular politician in Flanders, Wallonia and Brussels – making her the most popular politician in Belgium”
        She is supposed to have destroyed the stockpile of masks to save money.


      • StewGreen says:

        What Maggie would have done ?
        @AB’s discussion last night
        4 minute clip


      • Up2snuff says:

        Is that a fair exchange based on weight, AISI? Am unfamiliar with said lady.

        It is not just our NHS that has a problem with obesity of staff and patients, see Anna Josse Eklund: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53389066


  23. Up2snuff says:

    Not TOADY but BBC N&CA generally (TV included) on obesity: I wonder when anyone will question whether the Blair Government’s ‘Five Portions of Fruit and Vegetables a Day’ was a good idea? Again, those that know their food science and the dimness of some in the population knew that that was a recipe for putting on weight, for both the individual as well as for the profits of the supermarkets. Will it be questioned, investigated thoroughly, by the BBC?


    I thought not.

    I wonder why?


  24. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning Emo…

    People who’ve suddenly found themselves required to quarantine for 14 days after arriving in the UK from Spain need government support, the Labour Party sa…

    And there, dear reader, I ceased to be @rsed..


    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest – got to hand it to you for reading it – there’s always someone ‘vulnerable ‘ or in need of ‘support ‘ isn’t there?


      • Guest Who says:

        I am always fascinated by the communications system that exists that these outraged/confused/horrified folk in far flung places and the BBC are in touch in seconds.

        It’s almost like…. no… could it be….?

        “Hi, BBC Newsdesk?. Labour Karen here, from last week’s QT audience. Me an’ my nan, who is 80 and as at risk as you can get, are about to board RyanAir to Barcelona with the Oxford BLM apple bobbing team in a small sealed aluminium tube for a few hours, an’ were wondering who your local contact is if things go squiffy for the old bat in the club tonight? Seems travel insurance has to be paid for by the traveller and not some tax on other people unless you kick off the the meedjah”


  25. digg says:

    The BBC website running a weird story about Afghan heroin growers benefitting from the solar power revolution. Apparently loads of farmers are installing solar panels to drive their water pumps.

    The whole pitch of the story is along the line of how climate aware these enterprising farmers are becoming.

    They use the words “industry” and “world supply” as if it’s just another everyday commodity which I rather guess it is in BBC staff circles. They even list the story under science-environment rather than for instance crime which would be far more appropriate.


    Of course not a mention of the catastrophic effects of their products on Nasty white people in the Western World other than a tail-piece about an ex soldier addict turned addiction counsellor. And of course no interest in how the “farmers” export their goods into the country in ever increasing volumes and how they retail it once here.

    The whole tone of the article is very revealing of the BBC mindset.


  26. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Why is tax always the answer?

    Why not subsidise fresh fruit and vegetables?

    If the health benefit financially to the anychess is as great as they say, the subsidy will be chickenfeed to the savings.


    • Sluff says:

      Oh the irony.
      In 1974 the Labour government introduced food subsidies for healthy staples like…..errr…….butter and sugar!

      It was of course ruinously expensive because of the gigantic additional layer of political bureaucracy put into the food supply chain and was quietly abandoned after a short time.

      Better would be to charge £20 for visits to the GP and A and E. Your average obese person could hardly argue they couldn’t afford the fee.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Tr, that would just be offsetting the Fuel Duty Escalator (as was) so why not remove a piece of indirect/stealth taxation? The rise of flat pack (super)processed food in the UK links pretty much to the aftermath of 1992. The effect was surprisingly fast, under a decade.

      The problem that food producers and wholesalers and retailers have is that transporting vegetables and fruit requires transporting a lot of weight with air in between the items. Flat pack pizzas cost much less to transport and can be customised to fit an articulated trailer exactly with minimal spacing.


    • JamesArthur says:

      Because the fat ones wouldn’t eat the cheaper fruit and veg – that would help those of us that are not the problem…couldn’t do that..
      Too many mixed messages – on the one hand you can’t put pictures up on tube of healthy bodies in case it offends fat ones but you can punish the healthy ones with taxes and reduced choice to help fat ones

      It is always punish the responsible ones with taxes to help the target wastrels and those with no self control – most of whom don’t pay taxes (generalisation)..alcohol, food ; stop this stop that..
      and in next breath they say people can’t afford to eat healthy food – Brollacks

      Agree with Sluff – take a hard line – and stop clapping the 30% obese NHS staff who should set an example…


  27. StewGreen says:

    Pro BBC campaigner Cat Hobbs in March
    .. she was so bad, that she really hasn’t mentioned the BBC much since then.

    BTW technically “it’s spend more money on the Guardian”
    & it’s not that relevant today cos maybe staff are more likely to be reading the online versions of the papers
    all of which are free except the Times, FT)


  28. digg says:

    As for the BBC blast on obesity I am now waiting in trepidation for them to roll out Jamie bloody Oliver again. Give it time!

    Bloody hell he’s just popped up while I saved this FFS!


    • StewGreen says:

      One tweeter claimed at 11:40am he’d heard him on the BBC
      saying “At last we have a PM who is taking obesity seriously”.

      And 8 minutes ago LBC tweeted this
      The government’s “bold” obesity strategy is “the best news in ten years”, Jamie Oliver told James O’Brien.

      Times Radio put up their clip 26 mins ago


  29. StewGreen says:

    So rice eating nations what do you think of BBC cooking tips ??
    Malaysian comedian Uncle Roger
    Not sure about him plugging MSG at the end
    maybe he’s taking the mickey.


  30. StewGreen says:

    LBC at 9:50am an expert claimed 56% gets you an A grade at maths A level


    • Fedup2 says:

      But did he show his workings out? And if 56% get A then how do 45% get A+?explain your answer – no calulators allowed

      Personally i think kids should just be taught betting odds at the St Paddy Power Prep School for mixed gendas….,


    • Guest Who says:

      You are the guy who invested heart, body and soul into your Beagle Lander… and then found out the landing calculations were handled by a diversity hire with an A* from Oxford….


    • Up2snuff says:

      Stew, 56 or 65%?


  31. Doobster78 says:

    Not BBC but ITV.

    The massive “Lefty” whinging tosser that is Matthew Wright on This Morning …, can you believe it, blaming Dominic Cummings for people not adhering to the face mask rule !!!!

    They cannot let it go can they ?

    He said after Dominic Cummings broke the rules, it cant of felt like no one really needs to abide by them !! What a complete idiot. Love the way these Lefties ignore all their fellow Lefties who broke the lockdown rules and just focus solely on Cummings.

    Anyway, i checked on Twitter to see if it was just me who noticed it ..alas no. Good !!

    Matt Cat Superstar DJ
    Matthew Wright still blaming Dominic Cummings for everything!! #ThisMorning

    You can’t put everyone’s stupidity down to Dominic Cummings.. I get people problem for what he did etc but if he said jump in a fire would people do it? I doubt it #ThisMorning

    This Mathew Guy is a bit obsessed with Dominic Cummings #ThisMorning

    Dominic Cummings…. ???????????????? Twatthew Wright STFU! So if Dominic Cummings jumped off a cliff, would we all follow?? Why isn’t the message take responsibility for yourself rather than look for someone to blame!! #ThisMorning

    Oh FFS stop blaming dominic cummings people surely have their own common sense #ThisMorning

    #ThisMorning utter boll@@x from Matthew Wright and that other guest: what Cummings did is up to him. Take responsibility for yourself and wear a mask. Or don’t.But to say I won’t wear one as Cummings broke the rules is bs.Wright hates the Gov. – get an impartial presenter please


    • JimS says:

      As I understand, it when news of Domminic Cummings trip ‘up North’ got out police in Minneapolis thought “what the heck, best kneel on a neck”.

      That’s why I Trust The BBC.


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:


      I completely agree.
      Wright is a complete far left merchant banker.
      I think he see’s himself as Wolfie Smith. (In his dreams)

      If masks work then wear one and you’ll be fine.
      If they don’t work then what’s the point of complaining if someone is not wearing a mask.
      Just wear a hairnet over your mouth for the same protection.


  32. G says:

    This is how deranged the Globalist/Communists/Democrats actually are –
    “The Real October Surprise: Trump to Drop Out
    Mike Pence to run in Trump’s place, following extensive pardon deal granted Trump by Pence and arranged by Bill Barr.”

    Wet dreams.


    But it is symptomatic of the bizarre thinking going on in some ranks


    • Up2snuff says:

      Er, defintely bizzare, G. And that might present a dilemma to the usual Democrat voters who are Christians who then might be inclined, especially on a Law and Order who like to live peaceable and Godly lives (Romans 13 basis), to possibly not vote for Joe Biden but instead vote for Mike Pence.

      After all, if my memory serves me well, white immigrant Catholics in Ohio did not vote Democrat but gave the swing State to Donald Trump in 2016.

      The disturbances across the US have not served the Democratic Party well and Biden should have repeatedly called them off and supported President Trump in dealing with the trouble. Biden is now tarred as the ‘Disorder Candidate’ and that’s my view from cosy Lockdown UK. I guess some – a lot of? – Americans may view the riots and criminality much more strongly than that.


  33. Sluff says:

    Three cheers for the pal who offered this one.

    The BBC are so keen to support BLM and avoid accusations of racism that they are replying to Nigerian scammers and and sending licence fee payers money over to them.


    • JimS says:

      Tried to log on to my online bank today, customer number, pin, password, card reader etc. only to be greeted by pictures of Nigerians(?).

      Pulled the plug and sanistised the phone socket.


  34. JamesArthur says:

    TWATO R4 disingenuous again

    Short report with no context stating that Black Asian and other minority were more likely (1.6x) to be given a fixed penalty for not abiding by gathering rules than White ..implication and presentation was that it was racist – even though they didn’t say it (so we know it wasn’t reported as racist but they wanted listeners to think so)

    Not once did they make the point that – maybe, just maybe, black and Asians did break the lockdown rules more than white men and so the increase reflected the reality… No, that is both too logical and too honest a proposition – better to make it seem like racism…BBC you are a disgrace


  35. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – Rolling on the floor laughing

    The BBC have discovered that BAME individuals and groups were likely to be more fined – disproportionately – than equivalent white indigenous individuals and groups. No brain cells applied to the possibility that BAME individuals and groups were more likely to disobey the Lockdown restrictions.

    The BBC do have severe dementia or amnesia or dementia-related amnesia. Only a month and a half ago, the BBC on the web-site and R4, were telling everyone looking and listening that BAME individuals and groups were more at risk of dying from Covid-19.


  36. AsISeeIt says:

    One was fascinated to see the Labour Party calling for anyone out of pocket because their trip to the Costa got disrupted to be fully reinbursed. Free school dinners in the holidays, yeah why not, in for a penny in for a pound. Public sector pay rises all round. Waspie women, compensate them all!

    Right there is the problem with the lockdown enthusiasts. They seem to think this huge economic disruption will all be compensated out of thin air.

    Reality will, eventually, set in.

    ‘The millions ‘hanging by a thread’ as coronavirus aid expires’
    By Natalie Sherman Business reporter, New York


    ‘Coronavirus: UK economy ‘might not recover until 2024”

    ‘The forecasters, who use a similar economic model to the Treasury, suggest unemployment will rise to 9% from 3.9%.’

    ‘They also estimate the economy will shrink by 11.5% this year, worse than the 8% they predicted only a month ago.’

    ‘Consumers have been more cautious than expected’

    Yeah, they frightened the bejesus out of us with a (somewhat exaggerated) pandemic scare then try to tempt us back into work, on the trains and into the shops dressed in surgical masks.



    • Up2snuff says:

      AISI, UK unemployment went to nearly 8% under Blair & Brown with a much smaller workforce than at present.


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:


      I don’t know about scaring us.
      I’ve just heard on Sky that 7 have died today.
      I think from (or with) covid.
      Or was it wasp stings or adder bites. (Ban wasps just in case and better lockdown to be on the safe side)


  37. Guest Who says:

    The journalistic legend that is American Beauty passes on a ‘scoop’ from another ‘news’ media based on #sourceswhosay

    I wonder what he would get paid if he checked anything himself?


    • Guest Who says:

      Only two paras.


      Two paras that raise many questions.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Surprising – really -that sopel and co just havent come out and said they want D Trump dead . I bet the obituary they have in draft for him is a real beaut.,..


      • Guest Who says:

        They are venal and stupid, but not suicidal.

        They will just wait until the right person says it, then RT (not an endorsement/views my own, nudge nudge).


    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      That cnut Sopel should be sweating over his report on Nick Sandmann.

      I’ve emailed Mr Sandmann’s lawyers to remind them of his report.


  38. Guest Who says:

    Still headed by the ex-DG of the BBC, I believe…


  39. vlad says:

    Some peaceful ammo clips and peaceful Molotov cocktails found at the peaceful BLM riots in peaceful Portland, that the lying beeb aren’t telling you about.




  40. Up2snuff says:

    Do you remember the BBC and other Remainers making a big fuss – pardon my understatement – about the fall of the £sterling against the €uro following the result of the Brexit vote? And the big fuss – pardon my understatement, again – the BBC are making on R4 today about the sudden quarantine rules for Spain?

    It seems there’s just a teeny weeny little – pardon my understatement yet again – of contrariness and hypocrisy at work there at the BBC.


    • pugnazious says:

      Yes…big fuss about not imposing lockdown earlier….now govt is too quick and too harsh….BBC just looking for anything to criticise govt regardless if it contradicts everything they have said previously.

      And on a similar note we had Robinson trying desperately to point score against health minister this morning in an incredibly patronising interview in which he constantly talked down to her, claiming he was the adult..thus suggesting the minister was childish. Robinson doesn’t get any better.

      Surprised any minister still graces Today with their presence…their failure to appear during this ‘crisis’ would be a more powerful statement about the BBC’s dismal performance than anything else.


  41. Guest Who says:

    Seems the BBC is not the only one who has ‘audio problems’ that suit.


    Bet American Beauty can edit this one to fit once his main source of material passes it on.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest – thats the kind of ‘ interview ‘ which BBC droids like Robinson would describe as ‘ robustly holding power to account ‘ whereas decent people would see it as abusive statement making from a prejudiced opposition position .

      The “ oh dear we seem to be having technical difficulties “ so loved of Webb and Robinson and often used to save meeshall became a sport for me wondering how far in to an’enemy’ interview it would go before they pulled the plug – and now the weather …


  42. Fedup2 says:

    BBC being fair ? Reporting that grant shaps knew th spain quarantine was coming but had booked a holiday so didnt was to be seen using ‘ insider ‘ information .

    If thats the true version his stock should rise although he seems like a rich red tory to me …


  43. pugnazious says:

    BBC was quick off the mark to report on Lewis Hamilton’s BLM stance as he postured in the paddock….hmmmm…not so quick to report his anti-Vax comments…which is odd because the BBC is raging about anti-vaxxers and those who spread doubt about the orthodoxy on coronavirus…note how they monstered David Icke for his questioning the safety of 5G.

    This was a headline from last year…

    ‘How anti-vaccine movements threaten global health’

    This is from today….

    ‘It will soon be critical for the NHS to start vaccinating people against flu, to prevent hospitals being swamped with flu and Covid-19 patients this winter. Large-scale trials of Covid-19 vaccines, already under way in some places, are likely to start in Bradford in the autumn. It’s therefore worrying, says Dr John Wright of the city’s Royal Infirmary, that anti-vax conspiracy theories seem to have flourished in this pandemic.’

    And the BBC keeps up the attack on anti-vaxxers with relentlessly pro-vaccine narratives and an almost hysterical refusal to even question the line that a vaccine is the only answer…the almost compulsory answer that we all must line up for once it arrives.

    Hamilton said in response to criticism [not from the silent BBC]…

    ”I also want to be clear that I am not against a vaccine and no doubt it will be important in the fight against coronavirus, and I’m hopeful for its development to save lives.

    ‘However after watching the video, I felt it showed that there is still a lot of uncertainty about the side effects most importantly and how it is going to be funded. I may not always get my posting right. I’m only human but I’m learning as we go.’ ‘

    So not backing down…still ‘anti-vax’.

    Will the BBC dare to criticise their hero?


    • Richard Pinder says:

      ‘How the BBC threatens global health’ Science censored by the BBC.

      Results provide strong evidence supporting a link between autism and the aluminium in vaccines. https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/14/11/2227/htm

      So check to make sure that the NHS isn’t using a Covid-19 vaccine with Aluminium preservative in it, and beware of the scientific fraud coming from the BBC and the James Cook University in Australia.


  44. StewGreen says:

    A collection of stories about stooges on the BBC


  45. Jack in the Green says:

    I wonder what Sigmund Freud would have made of this BAME obsession? It has all the hallmarks of a classic mental health problem after all: paranoia, irrationality, hysteria, self-righteousness – the list goes on. With every bad thing happening currently and historically down to nasty whitey apparently and the blameless lives that all BAMERs lead you would think that everything in their garden would be rosy, instead of the endless game of victimhood the rest of us have to suffer.
    To live in a country where it is perfectly permissable to label any white person a racist, the libel that appears regularly in the Press and the associated slander on the TV, despite a race relations act (that directly forbids this) being on the statute book makes a mockery of the so called law.
    So I’m afraid, as with all obsessions, it will all end in tears.


  46. Guest Who says:

    Wonderful collection of young people bbc young reporter has assembled to inspire… the young.


  47. Sluff says:

    Hot news.
    BBC London headline news at 1830.

    Bus drivers’ lives would have been saved if the lockdown had been earlier.

    Yeah, right. What a pity Mystic Meg and BBC ‘journalists’ were not on the SAGE committee back in early March

    In other BBC news.
    Dog bites man.
    Hospital treats ill people.
    Car seen on road.

    In other words, just another example of BBC s***-stirring.

    Oh and BTW, the bus drivers who worked through with no protection or screens or PPE and were thus in a risky position are right up there on my ‘hero’ list.
    Not that anyone clapped for them.


    • pugnazious says:

      We went into lockdown at the same time as Germany and they were on exactly the same C19 timeline….must be some other cause for so many deaths here than when the lockdown came in.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Pug – I think it will turn out to be a mixture of different recording methods plus the NHS policy of putting the elderly in care homes whether they knew they had covid or not – thus killing a lot of people and causing much suffering whilst the ‘medical profession ‘ practiced their dance moves and calculated their 20 % discounts on this and that …..


      • Sluff says:

        An important point Pug. But to,put in context. Look at the reports of dead people lying unattended in Indian hospitals, and look at their number of cases. Then look at the official death rate. Do you really believe them? And Russia? South Africa?
        There are many fishy aspects to the data. Try looking at the shape of the cases and deaths curves by country on Worldometer. Then compare with the expected 3-4 week delay between max cases and max deaths. Very few countries match up.
        Explanations are few. No doubt in my mind the UK authorities are presenting our deaths in the worst possible light, as evidenced by the ridiculous PHE policy of attributing all deaths of those who have ever had CV to CV irrespective of their recovery.

        I conclude that the UK had hundreds of thousands of near-certain but untested cases not in the official figures which can be deduced from the April death peak, probably magnified by the UK’s world connectivity especially by air. There are many other factors.

        Is Germany miraculously able to keep severe Covid patients alive, when we are not? If so, what have our NHS heroes been doing? If not then it must follow that the bare stats cannot be trusted.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Sluff – during the top of the first lockdown I used London buses to go to the shop each week . I was astonished that we were still being required to pay by oyster – right in the face of the driver – and that the windows would invariably be closed . Ventilation is key to minimising transmission yet the buses were like moving Petri dishes – I wrote to TFL – got a jobsworth reply.

      I was so worried about it that I gave up public transport and got on me Pushbike – which also has its ‘own hazards ….


  48. Sluff says:

    Blink and you missed it.

    Context. The daily CV death rate for the UK was only 7.
    The lowest we have had. Yes, it was the weekend but surely an encouraging number.

    BBC news at 1815.
    Hugh announces the number as 7 and immediately wafts it away as he explains it is low because of the weekend. Within microseconds he moves on – and the caption changes even more quickly – to highlight the 45000+ total deaths. And then we get the 7 day average of 64.

    A clear case of bias by deliberately undermining inconvenient good news and quickly moving on to present the figures in the worst possible light.


  49. StewGreen says:

    Bogus claim that Sheffield Cathedral choir has just been shut down to improve diversity, with the church claiming ‘new urbans’ don’t like white traditions.
    Rather this article claims the church wanted rid of it for other reasons,and had deliberately run it down so they could say it needs to be disbanded.




  50. StewGreen says:

    ITV local news a long item about an art prize for Bradford refugee children.
    Apparently they have 600 Rohinga refugees in the town
    that seems a lot .. its a whole small village worth.

    Strangely there’s nothing on Twitter.