Weekend Thread 21 November 2020

Lord Dyson has been appointed by the BBC to see if its’ own senior managers were deceitful in inducing Princess Diana to give an exclusive interview in 1995. A DG appointing his own investigator is not a ‘good look’ . But one rule for the BBC – and other rules for suffering taxpayers .

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313 Responses to Weekend Thread 21 November 2020

  1. Darcy3 says:

    The woke attacking ancestors now ?

    “One of the early objectives of the Cultural Revolution in China, which began in 1966 and goes on today, was to wipe out the “four olds”—old things, old ideas, old customs and old habits.

    The “four olds” had already suffered setbacks in the years of Communist rule preceding the Cultural Revolution, but the Maoist leadership tried to use the new revolutionary upsurge launched in 1966 to eliminate them completely.

    In the turbulent years from 1966 to 1968, what remained of old religious practices, old superstitions, old festivals, old social practices such as traditional weddings and funerals, and old ways of dress were violently attacked and suppressed. Visual evidences of old things were destroyed, and there was an orgy of burning of old books and smashing of old art objects.

    Young Red Guards invaded homes and shattered family altars that denoted continued Confucian reverence for generations of forbears. The few temples, mosques and churches still used for religious purposes were closed and put to secular use. Even those that had been left open for sightseeing purposes, such as the great Buddhist, Lama and Taoist temples of Peking, were barred and their statues, altars and other furnishings were removed.

    In not a single home seen by the writer was there any family altar, any tablets to ancestors or any representation of the old gods formerly worshipped by the Chinese masses. In as Westernized a city as Hong Kong, still under British rule, such things are still commonplace in Chinese homes. ”



    • G says:

      The chinese have made a good start in the US and other Western countries.


      • Guest Who says:

        It always intrigues the media in the West actively seeking to turn it into Russia and China have not grasped how the media in Russia and China fare if they stray from the party line.

        Maybe they are just certain they will be kept in Kir Royales and £6,000,000 pensions if they don’t?


  2. vlad says:

    “It will be BIBLICAL”

    Attorney Sidney Powell is doubling down, trebling down, quadrupling down on her accusations.

    She is either: a) delusional; b) a huge liar; or c) about to rock the world.

    The BBC are still remarkably insouciant about the story.

    “It will be Biblical” – Hallelujah!


    • Red Pill says:

      I really hope it’s not a) or b). If they don’t have clear evidence it will do untold damage to the Republicans, embolden the lefties and make right-of-centre political supporters look petty, childish and unable to accept defeat. I really want there to be a smoking gun.


      • vlad says:

        She claims to have multiple smoking guns.


      • Doublethinker says:

        I too want there to be a smoking gun and for Trump to win a second term and to drain the swamp at last. But Sydney Powell’s allegations become more enormous every day. Basically she says that pretty much the whole of the US government from top to bottom , not just the very top but even thousands of people counting the votes, has been involved in a conspiracy against the American people.
        If these allegations had been made five years ago I would have dismissed them as the ravings of lunatics but after the failed coup and the subsequent cover up I can believe them and think that they need to be investigated . But who can be trusted to run a full, fair and transparent investigation given that the government is so corrupted?
        In the past , well forty or fifty years ago, the MSM would have been attacking this with vigour but the MSM is now just part of the conspiracy and will use its power to undermine and suppress the allegations rather than investigate them.


    • G says:

      Sidney Powell?

      This is no stupid woman hellbent upon destroying any commercial/legal future she has.

      The problem DJT’s legal team has, is the implanted communists in positions of power, them being hellbent on a rapid conversion of so-called, ‘Democracy’ to outright communism.

      I’m really surprised at how many communists are in positions of power and influence in the US. The system is riddled with them – no doubt all on the Chinese payroll. On that subject, the YT sites I visit to gain my news are all telling me that their subscribers are slowly being wiped out by YT. Anybody getting the same message?

      The current ‘Salty-Cracker’ video is well worth a watch (as always).


      • vlad says:

        Yes, many of them report being ‘throttled’, demonetised, shadow banned, censored, not recommended to new viewers, shut down, and discriminated against in the hundred and one ways Big Tech has of restricting conservative-leaning content.

        The avowed aim of the American Left is not just to win the election but to eradicate Republicanism.

        If they do win, this is just the start.


    • Banania says:

      My word, she is mustard!


  3. Guest Who says:

    That this is ‘promoted’ is extra hilarious.


    • Red Pill says:

      These are people that need a reason to feel good about themselves. They need to be able to whisper sweet nothings to themselves as they self-cuddle (got a feeling these people do lots of ‘self cuddling’) themselves to sleep. They can get up in the morning and tell themselves, without a hint of irony, what fantastic people they are. These are your woke, lefty, fresh out of uni, tossers – aka the BBC


    • JimS says:

      Or he might start talking about the exploits of Dorothy Bader and Roberta Stanford-Tuck as they battled with Adele Galland over La Manche in 1940.


  4. Darcy3 says:

    TWO terror fanatics have been released on to our streets — and three more will follow in weeks.

    One jihadi already out of jail is Moinul Abedin, Britain’s first al-Qaeda inspired bomber.

    It comes despite the UK threat level being raised to “severe” this month and arrests for terror-related offences at a ten-year low.

    Abedin, 45, was freed from a 20-year term imposed in 2012 after police found bomb-making gear at his home.

    And Shazib Khan, 27, was released after serving half an eight-year term for trying to go to Syria to join IS.

    Jihadist plotter Yusuf Sarwar, 28, who did go, is set to apply for release next month.

    Fellow IS schemer Mohammed Zahir Khan, 42, is also up before parole officials soon.

    Meanwhile, Osama Bin Laden’s right-hand man Abdel Bary, 60, is due to be extradited from the US. He got 25 years for his part in al-Qaeda US embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 that killed 224 and has just been let out.



    • Darcy3 says:


      Abedin, 45, was freed from a 20-year term imposed in 2012 after police found bomb-making gear at his home.


  5. AsISeeIt says:

    Sunday may be considered a day of rest but spare a thought for those fragile souls in our civil service as the Telegraph warns: ‘Patel shakes up antiquated work practices at Home Office. The top ranks are to be shaken up… with officials asked to work some weekends and be subject to performance reviews’ – what, like the private sector? – Oh the humanity. Treat it as a down payment on your gilt-edged state sector pensions and job security, chaps.

    The Sunday Times Magazine meanwhile reassures me Dolly Parton is: ‘Still working 9 to 5’

    Titular head of our established church, top cleric and sometime turbulent priest, Justin Welby, makes the front page of the Observer: ‘Welby warns Tories against overseas aid cut’ – one feels that soft-left, anti-conservative, paper is the natural sanctury for Welby’s sanctimonius signalling of his own virtue.

    Typically of our current leaders of institutions he sees his role as an opportunity to narcissistically burnish his own brand, rather than to preserve and maintain the valuable societal institution of which he is custodian.

    His Grace also makes the frontpage of the Sabbath edition of the Telegraph: ‘Archbishop of Canterbury to take sabbatical. The Most Rev Justine Welby, pictured at Lambeth Palace, is to take a break next year to focus on study, prayer and reflection’ – nice work if you can get it. Try not to get your crosier stuck in the door as you leave.

    A uniform spate of free delivery offers across our national press signalled the looming onset of our second lockdown. The Telegraph today offers a six-week delivery deal. Their top headline appears to concur with that gloomy omen: ‘Lockdown to end next week but stricter tiers on the way’ – have you noticed, by the way, that our media will voice criticism of every jot and tittle of government action or inaction apart from their main plank of policy – Lockdowns?

    It’s my understanding that Ofcom slapped a form of D-notice on the broadcasters and the newspapers have mainly towed the line.

    The Sunday Express does promote a report of the disquiet among some Tory MPs to its frontapage: ‘Lockdown ultimatum. As PM confirms we face tougher tiered restrictions before Christmas, Tory MPs demand evidence…’ – the problem being opposition to lockdowns gets characterised as only coming from that one small easily ignored group.

    Where’s the opposition, we ask? To quote an old political slogan – “Labour isn’t working”. The bishop is soon to be in retreat, cloistered away burnishing his own virtuous conscience. And so it falls to Me Learned Friends… the Lawyers…

    ‘Johnson “acted illegally” over jobs for top anti-Covid staff’ – as qouted in the Observer: ‘The case has been lodged by the not-for-profit Good Law Project headed by Jolyon Maugham QC…’ [Fox assassin and EU fanatic] ‘…and the UK’s leading race equality think tank, the Runnymede Trust’ – I’ll say no more. Apart from the word Runnymede still evokes in me Magna Carta more than BLM. Each to their own, I guess.

    So far so good but this has all been a trifle heavy going and rather hard work. Perhaps we will find our reward is in heaven?

    ‘Mind the pay gap’ – says the Times: ‘Men unhappy when wives earn more’ – in a frontpage article penned by a woman of course, Emily Dugan, Social Affairs Correspondent. You can bet your bottom dollar this report is based on some social studies university research and is that odd contemporary phenomenum of a journalistic enterprise setting out to reform society into a certain way of thinking: ‘if you thought the days of the unreconstructed male needing to rule the financial roost were long gone, it may be time to think again’ – no thanks, luv. Just bring us the news.

    And finally, our go to resource the Daily Star Sunday: ‘Rank Hypocrisy’ – no, not some public health panjandrum caught bonking outside of his household bubble – not this time anyway: ‘BBC spends £350k on taxis, trains and hotels THAT IT NEVER USES while handing huge bill to OAPs’

    But calm down. The BBC will tell you that you’ll find many reports of how a pound spent in the arts sector multiplies many times over to the benefit of the real economy. Infact the Chancellor: ‘Prepare for tax pain next year, warns Sunak’ (Times) should probably increase the BBC’s Licence Fee as a route to rebuild the economy. I’m being sarcastic. The BBC already has a multi-year inflation busting deal in place.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Thank you asiseeit – but what about the important stuff ? Who is winning ‘strictly ‘ or ‘voice ‘ or ‘ice’ or the jungle thing ? I’m sure there are others …. I might have dreamt up the ‘ice ‘ one – or the ‘opportunity knocks ‘ one —- ?

      Certainly looks like the minister for strong statements is the new Cummings ….. and the Civil Service will be even more at war with the red Tories … more leaks to come ….


    • Banania says:

      Welby is not the head of the established church; the Queen is.


  6. Laughing at Lefties says:


    ‘Time to Heal.’ I think the Mirror meant ‘Time to HEEL.’ These people want uniformity, not unity. And the BBC defends this.


  7. Jeff says:

    It’s now absolutely crystal clear that when lockdown finishes we’re going to be put into a series of localised…um…lockdowns.
    They’ll probably be given names like Tiers One, Two and Three, but we all know what they really are…imprisonment.

    In olden times, when I was a lad, we might have been able to turn this utterly pointless catastrophe into a vehicle for humour, but not these days. By the time Marcus, Jo, Paul Merton and all the deeply unfunny, woke “comedians” that infest the airwave have got hold of it, they’ll have turned this nonsense into yet another deeply unfunny diatribe against Trump or Brexit.

    I’d have liked to see the old Carry On team have a go at these lunatic times. Perhaps we could call the film Carrie on up the Covid…geddit? Obviously the voluptuous Babs Windsor would play Miss Symonds, constantly giggling and jiggling her bits. Well, it always worked for me…

    There’s only one man to play Boris and that’s the perennially gormless Bernard Bresslaw, who would stumble out wearing a dodgy blond wig and looking confused and harassed. He’d be flanked by the machiavellian and dangerously incompetent “experts”, Charles Hawtrey and Kenneth Williams. They’d produce a series of incomprehensible graphs that would be displayed upside down or on their side. Quite clearly these idiots couldn’t organise the proverbial in a brewery and shouldn’t be listened to, but somehow, they’re in charge. Oh, we’d laugh…

    The latest I’ve heard is that the government are going to allow us a few days off for the festive season. Their generosity is boundless.

    I’m ignoring all these imbecilic rules. They achieve nothing but utter misery. I’ll be out on Christmas day, mixing in various (illegal)”bubbles” And even New Year’s Eve, which I usually avoid like the plague (pun intended) I’ve been invited to a gettogether. And I’m going.

    I’m not a natural rebel, but I’ve had more than enough. It’s time to kick back and take control of our liberties. These people aren’t going to stop with this unless we stop them. That’s now clear.

    So, our resident Number Ten half-wit can shove his tiers, bubbles and restrictions up his corpulent, well upholstered Christmas cracker.

    I ain’t listening…


    • Fedup2 says:

      But jeff – why not stay indoors – there’s bound to be something good on the BBC ….


      • Darcy3 says:

        Currently testing that premise and a feature about remote Scottish islands, and, not a black face or veil or mosque in sight (so far)

        heads will roll at the bbbc, HOW DARE THEY !


    • Loobyloo says:

      I’m of the same opinions as you Jeff. I feel utterly hopeless about this govt and media which has quickly turned into a totalitarian nightmare, led by a bunch of lefty scientists.
      I can’t believe that there aren’t more vocal objections.
      And also they’ve removed the right to peaceful protest.


      • Darcy3 says:

        Unless you want to knock a statue down

        Police will be present but only to bloody dance with you or kneel down


  8. Darcy3 says:

    BTW Classic FM, are they getting a backhander from Khachaturian to play his bleeding Adagio (Onedin Line theme) every hour ?

    Of course, member of the communist party and approved by the Soviet Govt, (denounced once but reinstated) maybe thats it

    Thank God Corbyn has not written any tunes, apart from some love sonnets to Diane Abbot


    • Foscari says:

      Darcy-I gave up on Classic FM years ago. I understood
      that they didn’t have the time to play complete Bruckner
      symphonies. But I told them that segments like the first
      movement of the 6th symphony has around FOUR or more
      themes that have been made into blockbuster film music scores.
      They wrote back telling me that they often play his violin
      concerto. For those of you that love classical music you
      will know what they thought. For those that don’t the
      composer they were getting mixed up was Bruch.
      You may ask what has this got to do with the BBC?
      Other than the fact that I believe that the woke diverse
      classical music brigade at the BBC would like to” cancel ”
      all the white classical male composers with the initial B !!
      You see they probably have found some evidence that the likes
      of Bach , Beethoven etc were involved in the slave trade .



  9. G says:

    Can’t remember which site it was but someone disclosed that Facebook has dropped reference to Biden and, “President Elect” for simpler, ‘Biden’ solely. Not being on F/book or Twatter, I can’t confirm. Anybody?


    • vlad says:

      His profile bio currently reads: “Joe Biden @joebiden . Politician”

      So yes, it seems it’s been downgraded from ‘President Elect’ (though I never personally saw that).

      In future it might be further downgraded to “Corrupt Politician”.



      • moggie63 says:

        I suspect it won’t be long until it’s downgraded to, the bottom of the barrel, “Corpse”.


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Or Корумпований політик, as they say in Kiev.

        And here’s some music to accompany it.


    • StewGreen says:

      The claim was first made by a top Trump legal advisor
      – Others point out that Twitter are being a bit over zealous in where the stick warnings
      The latest warning on Trump’s on page says
      voting by mail and has a long history of safety”


      • StewGreen says:

        Full FB label “Both voting by mail and voting in person have a long history of trustworthiness in the US.
        Voter fraud is extremely rare across voting methods.”


  10. Darcy3 says:

    “SARAH VINE: If Priti Patel was Labour, the left would be calling her treatment by public school mandarins ‘racism’ instead they treat her like a traitor because she’s Asian”


    “Imagine if Priti Patel was a Labour Minister – the reaction to Sir Alex Allan’s inquiry into her conduct at the Home Office would be very different.

    The entire liberal establishment, from The Guardian to Twitter to the BBC, would have ridden out in her defence, shutting down any objections with furious cries of ‘racism’.

    Meanwhile, her accusers would have been dismissed as small-minded bigots, intimidated by the idea of not only a woman, but a woman of colour, the daughter of Ugandan-Indian immigrants, daring to tell them how to do their jobs.

    She would have been held up as a shining example of courage in the face of both conscious and unconscious bias, and all doubts dismissed as prejudice.”


  11. Darcy3 says:

    Islamist terrorist sympathisers get asylum here, but….

    Christian girl, 14, is being threatened by Islamist death squads in Pakistan for fleeing forced marriage to Muslim man, 45 – as thousands sign petition to give her asylum

    Catholic altar server Maira Shahbaz is hiding after being accused of apostasy
    Over 9,000 have signed petition asking PM to grant her and family asylum in UK
    As a backbench Tory MP, Boris Johnson led calls for Mrs Bibi to be given asylum
    Maira has now appealed directly to PM, saying in statement: ‘Please protect me’



  12. Absolute Shower says:

    Has anybody heard that the Scottish Conservatives won a by-election in Clackmannanshire? Just out of interest I had a quick look for it on the BBC website but I can’t see it anywhere.


    • Van Helsing says:


      It was a council by-election for a seat that was already Conservative-held. However, their share of the vote rose by ten points to 51%.

      It’s not mentioned anywhere on the Al-Beeb website. Funny, that…


  13. Tabs says:

    BBC1, from 10:30 to 10:40 this morning, had a 10 minute programme called Lifeline, presented by BBCs favourite Martin Kemp, which was basically a charity appeal advert. Of course it featured a black girl who had help from the charity.

    Why is the BBC now showing charity appeal adverts? Is there some back hander going on and suely this will open a can of worms where other charities do not get 10 minute free adverts on BBC.


  14. infoquest says:

    Tom Woods – never heard of him – but worth watching.


  15. vlad says:

    Hey BBC, this is what investigative journalism looks like – remember?

    The report is quite long as the presenter builds up her case layer by layer.

    Spoiler: a Vice-President of Dominion was heard on an Antifa conference-call saying: ‘Don’t worry about the election, Trump is not going to win – I made f’ing sure of that’.


  16. JimS says:

    At the very least the BBC should be explaining how complex the US voting system is.

    I had wondered what the significance was of earlier reports that some electors were given ‘Sharpie’ pens to mark their forms. Unlike a ball pen the ‘Sharpie’ ink can bleed through to the other side. What this report makes clear is that the voting forms are optically scanned to determine the voting intention. A form with ‘bleed through’ will not scan cleanly so gets set aside for a human to determine what the voter’s intention was. We are also told that by altering the ‘gamma’ settings the number of votes failing to be read can be increased. (Creases and even paper fibres get seen as marks on the paper, as well as the voter’s pen marks).

    If there is no supervision the assessor can manually tally these ‘spoiled’ votes any way that they want. An operator might be presented with, say, 1,000 un-read votes and then one-by-one mark them Biden, Biden Biden.. That gives a plausible explanation as to how blocks of votes could be for one candidate only, something unlikely even in the ‘safest’ of seats.

    Thank heavens we have Marianna Spring, (she’s only 24 you know!). doing extensive research from the BLM and Democratic Twitter feeds!


    • vlad says:

      And don’t forget the ground-breaking work she does leafing through the New York Times and chatting to her pals at CNN.


  17. digg says:

    BBC sister channel 4 running a series on Britains historic town, last night was my home town of Portsmouth.

    It didn’t take long for the eminent lady professor to start slagging off Nelson especially for his trumped up charge of being racist.

    A good opportunity to delve into real history ruined by the inevitable dollops of wokeness…

    Part of it involved a young woke bloke who was basically slamming the whole Country for it’s horrible, racist past. You could actually see that he was parroting bilge indoctrinated into him at UNI.

    My father was based in Portsmouth in the Fleet Air Arm and endured amongst other things many decidedly nasty Arctic Convoy runs in WW2… and to think he did it for his Country and to to preserve the future of this Land not to generate these twisted ungrateful and wretched people?

    I am sure he would probably have had second thoughts if he knew where it would lead.


    • Doublethinker says:

      Thanks I’ll delete the recording. The episode on Lincoln was BAME free and Wokism didn’t feature much, perhaps it was difficult to find a way of introducing workism into the story of a Lincoln. I quite enjoyed it as a result. But Alice is as Woke as Woke can be and if there is a way of showing her Wokism she will certainly do so. It will probably get her another series.
      As to your father’s second thoughts my Dad was wondering exactly the same thing in the years before he died in 2009 and it’s got a lot , lot worse since then.


  18. Darcy3 says:

    Now, that’s a surpise,

    More than 2,000 adult asylum seekers have been caught lying about their age and pretending to be children, figures reveal

    Of 3,755 ‘children’ investigated by UK immigration half were found to be over 18
    Adult asylum applications can be processed more harshly by the Home Office
    Genuine child victims of war, terror and disasters, are offered more financial aid



  19. G says:

    Mere coincidence…………

    “Dear UNN family, (I get the email)

    Hope you are well and thanks again to everyone who has supported UNN after YouTube removed our ability to make any money. This accounted for over 50% of our monthly revenue but alas we will not give up as we are getting closer to the truth.

    We have noticed a significant uptake in shadowbanning and censorship when a few weeks ago we started to pinpoint and analyse ‘The Great Reset’ headed by Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum.

    Nothing we are talking about is factually inaccurate.

    Everything is out there in the public domain but the masses either ignore it or are simply too afraid to understand what it means for them.

    We don’t want that to happen to you and your family, we seek no fame or fortune from this but need you to realise that all is not well.

    Dr Niall McCrae of Kings College London has written an excellent piece on a German whistleblower speaking out against this and we urge you to read it below now.

    Kind Regards,

    David Clews
    Lead UNN Correspondent”

    On the basis that nothing happens without a motivating / moving force behind it, is it just me, thinking that just a year ago, the Wu-flu was slowly working its way toward us. I believe, by design. A year of lock-downs an personal restrictions never seen before. The year of US rioting supported by the US communist party – the Dems. The year of US elections and more unresolved conflict. The year of much confrontation in India and the South China Sea. A year of crippling restrictions on the Worlds ability to finance anything and in particular, all their frivolous aspirations. A year of Brexit. All coming to a head. Rapidly.

    Strange. I somehow think all these things are inextricably connected. I’ve got a gut feeling that we will soon find out why.


  20. BRISSLES says:

    Looks like its going to happen then (according to reports in today’s paper), Hamilton will get his knighthood in the New Year’s Honours List. He’ll join that other idiot Mo Farah. It’ll be Rashford next. Makes me weep.


    • Darcy3 says:

      I object see below: (A Carribean Hamilton with links to slavery)

      He needs his ancestors checked

      Alexander Hamilton abhorred slavery and at a few points in his life worked to help limit it. But any moral objections he held were tempered by his social and political ambitions. Throughout his life, like so many leaders of the time, he allowed or used slavery to advance his fortunes—both indirectly and through compromises he chose to make.

      Shortly before Hamilton’s father abandoned his family, he moved them in 1765 to St. Croix, where 22,000 of the island’s 24,000 residents were held in captivity to cultivate the “white gold” produced on sugar plantations. Even though Hamilton’s family had few riches, his mother at one time owned five enslaved people, whom she hired out to supplement her income, as well as four boys who served as her house servants. She bequeathed one of the boys, Ajax, to Alexander, but after her death in 1768, a court denied the inheritance because of Hamilton’s illegitimate birth and granted ownership of Ajax to his half-brother instead.

      Hamilton spent his teenage years working as a clerk with the St. Croix trading firm Beekman and Cruger, which imported everything needed for a plantation economy—including enslaved people from West Africa.



    • Northern Voter says:

      Perhaps they’ll knight the car, apparently it does 98 % of the graft, that and the fiddling the krauts do to any car they produce!


  21. Guest Who says:

    That sound?

    That’s the sound of an entire Kir Royale jetting out of its glass onto a screen.


  22. Guest Who says:

    And now, here is the BBC News….


  23. Guest Who says:

    I think I am in a position to help them…


  24. Darcy3 says:

    They hate us, our country, our culture but the will take our benefits without a second thought

    absolute sub human degenerate scum (I include their parasitic, thieving scum lawyers)

    At least four ISIS jihadi brides are queuing up behind Shamima Begum to return to UK by launching legal action challenging government decision to strip them of British citizenship

    Shamima Begum’s future to be determined by Supreme Court Judges tomorrow
    They will decide whether the 21-year-old ISIS bride can return to UK to appeal
    Begum, who left UK aged 15 in 2015 for Syria, is appealing for British citizenship
    Four other mothers in Syrian detention camps are seeking passage home to UK



  25. StewGreen says:

    Sunday Times article : “Teach us about the slave trade, not the Tudors, say young campaigners”
    All children should learn about Britain’s role in the slave trade and the sometimes bloody history of its empire, as well as braided hair and the Windrush generation, according to young campaigners whose petitions have attracted nearly 400,000 signatures.
    Yeh, sure they did and no adults or PR tricksters were involved at all …/ sarc

    So is the article NEWS or is it PR ?
    – It reads as if it is merely promoting the campaign.
    Claim of 400K signatures
    “Three petitions drawn up by four young students were presented to MPs last week.”
    Doh you can’t add up the 3 petitions and make a grand total, cos most people would have signed all 3.

    The Times readers comments are red-pilled.
    – ” I was taught about the slave trade at school in the 1960s and 70s. So what’s new?
    Then, teaching was restricted to the North Atlantic trade that began about 1600. Only later did I discover the even more shameful Arab trade that had begun around 700AD, long before the Atlantic trade, and the raids on the South Coast of England, Wales, Ireland and even Iceland by the Corsairs from North Africa in the 1700s.
    Let us teach children about the slave trades. But not just the North Atlantic, but that the Arab trade is still going well today.

    Teach them about the Wilberforce Acts and the role of the Royal Navy’s West Africa Squadron that lost around 2000 souls freeing about 150,000 slaves from illegal trade ships, and that many of the sailors’ lives lost were freed slaves who served with the RN.”


    • Jeff says:

      How about all children being taught about the true history of the slave trade and Africa’s integral role in it?
      BTW, I mean the real history, not the one sided, BBC preferred, anti British, bigoted view espoused by most of the TV stations.

      These usually depict innocent Africans wandering about something that resembles The Garden of Eden and being kidnapped by some horrible white slavers. Utter bunkum.

      The Africans enslaved other Africans. They were at it long before we started and still at it long after we had finished with it.

      The real history was nothing like Roots.


  26. Guest Who says:

    Mr. Beere’s account thread explains much.


  27. StewGreen says:

    So *Country*file is there a special reason you have come to a Gloucester inner-CITY riding school ?
    … To tick the BAME box


  28. Laughing at Lefties says:


    More information that BBC ‘News’ has refused to cover in its personal, vindictive hatred of Trump. That they want to replace him with sniffy Joe is demonstrative of their complete lack of morals and empathy.


  29. Northern Voter says:

    According to todays paper, I can’t remember which, but Eamon Holmes and his wife have been offered a job at the Beeb, but only if they black up.


  30. Red Pill says:

    Apologies if this was covered yesterday, but I’ve only just spotted it on BBC website – https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55024769 – about how “antibodies ‘last at least six months'”. Wasn’t it only a couple of weeks ago that they were heavily pushing the doomsday research story from the apocalyptic Imperial College about there not being enough antibodies in people who had contracted Covid in order to gain immunity? This ridiculous conclusion seemingly completely ignoring the fact that there have only been 6 out of 53 million known cases of reinfection, a statistic anyone with more than a single brain cell could work out was more than a little significant. Yet the BBC seemed to love this story, presumably because it justified the tyrannical lockdown they’re promoting. Wtf ever happened to common sense?


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  32. Fedup2 says:

    And with that it’s time for the start the week thread – busy busy phew ….