449 Responses to Weekend Thread 9 January 2021

  1. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE watch #2 – the BBC think in the time of Covid that that is all that matters to us ordinary people

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/ – see top left (currently showing FA Cup – latest from 10 games)

    The BBC haven’t really caught the public mood. Like the tabloid papers, which term now, sadly, includes all the broadsheets the BBC as part of the MSM think that all we are interested in is football. Football and going to the pub or gym, finding out about slebs and then watching TV, including soaps set in pubs and so-called reality TV which is really faked.

    Er, no, BBC. You have that wrong. You are out of touch.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Yes, with the number of times that gym owners have been interviewed one would think the whole population are gym bunnies. Funny that, as we have the largest problem of obesity in Europe !

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Brissles, my dear old thing (well, I wish it was the cricket season, its a little chilly at present) I consider a pic of Joe Wicks to be as welcome on the BBC web-site and front pages of newspapers as pics of the Duke & Duchess of Los Angeles or whatever or wherever. I cannot understand the Beeb’s obsession with Wicks. At least the Markles have been newsworthy in the past, although I cannot wait for their ‘quiet life’ to really get started.

        As Captain Kirk would say: “Make it so.”

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  2. JohnC says:

    Just been painting the walls at my workshop and only had my FM radio. As Norton and the woman who helped him have FO’ed I figured I would not have to listen to him and her trying to out-ego each other or Graham making catty remarks about how he just wants the show to end so he can go home. So I thought I’d give radio-2 another chance.
    Sure enough it was a woman. Niki Chapman. First thing which struck me was there was absolutely zero wit. It was Zoe Ball part 2.
    Then came the first guest. A woman (of course) publicising her new book on Veganism. She was about 18 I think and it was such low-grade, it was embarassing. Like our local radio. They both gushed about Vegan food – even informing me that boiled lentils are ‘vibrant’.
    Next guest was another woman (of course). This one has written a book on ‘creativity’ which was 5 minutes of meaningless platitudes including using the word ‘incredible’ five times in the first minute. The conversation finally detriorated into fawning about famous people in the same way Zoe Ball does.
    Finally, to sign off, Nikki threw out a virtue-signal by playing Bowie/Queen ‘Under Pressure’ and informed us that she ‘was feeling a bit emotional now’ when it ended.
    What a complete pile of sh1t. It was like listening to children. Back to MP3’s of old Wogan shows.
    I want my money back.

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  3. Darcy3 says:

    Wogan yes, I recall a discussion he had with his co presenters about the last words in Gone with the Wind

    He was adamant it was “I’ll get you, Butler”

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    • JohnC says:

      My favourite was a quiz about garden birds his team had set up without telling him so he didn’t realise until after he had read them out. The 3 choices for the answers were (I can’t actually remember the first 2 so I made them up):
      1) Sparrows like millet
      2) Crows like apples
      3) Tits like coconuts
      What a class act they were.

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  4. Richard Pinder says:

    Had a terrible nightmare last night.

    I was walking down the street. Saw a poster of a defiant Churchill, with a two finger salute to victory. Met Ian Lavender, he said Mainwaring was dead, had shot himself in the Village Hall Office. Apparently he had gone bankrupt due to Hodges giving him a £10,000 fine for leaving the lights on. Feeling miserable, I then walked into the Butchers Shop. Jones had hanged himself on a meat hook. Presumably because he had gone bankrupt due to Hodges giving him a £10,000 fine for leaving the lights on. Walked out of the shop feeling very miserable. Saw the poster again, but this time it was a poster of a miserable Boris Johnson, with a two finger salute that said F*Off. I then wolk up with a jolt when I was run over by a German or Chinese Tank.

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    • Darcy3 says:

      Keep off the cheese for a while… 🙂

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      • Fedup2 says:

        I’m sure i read some crap saying that The BBC as responsible for Brexit by putting on Dads Army every Saturday night – thus inflaming patriotism …

        We know the real reason of course – namely that is regularly gets big viewing figures compared to the modern effluent they put out now ….

        When I was a kid i saw the radio version being made . Fedup privilege …( I don’t think the cast were that enthusiastic and if you hear a radio repeat now you can hear them reading the script )

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  5. Thoughtful says:

    I see the FT is reporting that tha appointment of the new Chair of the BBC Richard Sharp is being seen as a rowing back on the reform of the far left excesses of the BBC by the cowardly useless incompetent Tories.

    As I have been saying ever since the election, don’t expect Boris to so anything about the BBC, he’s far too yellow and useless to take them on.

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    • JohnC says:

      My take is that Boris has the right intentions, but Boris and his future career are far, far more important.

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  6. Doobster78 says:

    Of course, other views are available, but you will NEVER hear them from the lockdown fanatical BBC !!!!

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    • The WestWyvern says:

      AntiBeeb can start practicing what they preach/print by not sending reporters, cameras, commentators all around the country following football matches. How can this be carrying on during this time of national crisis? Any time you listen to 5dead there is football on, along with news of teams or coaching staff who are isolating. They must be super spreaders these practitioners of association football.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Doobster78
      I saw one of the scientists on the BBC 6pm news. He was one of those behaviour experts, which the Government relies on. Basically they are all about controlling people, getting them to conform.
      Bet he has a cage full of rats at his university where he gets them to poo in response to some fancy stimuli, and thereby gets a paper published on ratomorphism or something

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    • G says:

      Doob,
      Picture depicts a normal day at the farm…………….

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  7. StewGreen says:

    “You, you shape the world as if it’s a tree.
    And you cut off any branch, that doesn’t suit your plan”

    George Smiley said ..written by John Le Carre
    Isn’t that the way of Guardianland ?

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  8. Ian Rushlow says:

    Finally, some good news? Daily number of Covid-19 deaths plummets by 22% from 1,325 to 1,035. Oddly enough, the drop of 290 in today’s figures compared to yesterday’s is not reported positively by the BBC and other news outlets. The caveat is that the number of deaths varies each day, so may go up and may go down. However, the direction of the reporting is always one way only…

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  9. The WestWyvern says:

    Ps the BBC commentary at Bristol Rovers game today claimed a scout from Newcastle was at the game looking at a prospect. How the bloody hell can a trip to Bristol from the North East be considered essential?

    They really are taking the piss dear readers.

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  10. StewGreen says:

    Real World vs BBC-land re Covid
    Radio4 show called “Views of Anita & selected Callers”
    … one direction only typically pensioners who have locked themselves in, and leave only once a month to go to the supermarket and want police to shoot people who do it twice.

    Yet no mention of London 50 person shisha parties
    Nor of the stunt before Christmas where Boris announces a coming London lockdown from midnight
    ..thus caused crammed trains.
    Did that seed an uptick ?

    Many of the pensioners around here scared by the telly have become superlockdowners.
    None of them I know got Covid
    ..although one tried to suicide out of despair. (alright now)

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    • Darcy3 says:

      Views of Antifa and selected Callers surely ?

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    • Seppers says:

      StewGreen that really is terribly sad. I’m glad they are ok now.
      I’m not against the restrictions/lockdown given we have a pandemic, but I am against people being made to be unnecessarily afraid. That’s just awful.

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  11. Doobster78 says:

    Not BBC but ITV racing this afternoon.

    Jockey wins the Welsh Grand National. He had just had 2 terrible falls earlier on the card.

    When interviewed, when questioned what it meant to win after such a tough afternoon, he replied “it’s a man’s sport”

    It’s a turn of phrase , a well known saying , but itv front man ed Chamberlain had to apologise on several occasions for anyone who took “offence” to the comment !!!!!

    I kid you not. ……Great Britain 2021 !!!!! Unbelievable !!!!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I’m presuming the horses take the knee before each race . BTW my two ggs in that race are still running ..

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  12. StewGreen says:

    Plenty support Mike Graham in refusing to take the anti-Trump bait
    The prog presenter opened with the conventional line presenters must now use to stay in with YouTube & Ofcom
    ‘So #OrangeMan bad, it’s all his fault and he won’t be back in 2024’
    ..Mike refused to take the bait
    “It’s Obama he was the worst president in history, he did nothing in 8 years”

    and plenty on Twitter agreed with Mike
    full 7 minute segment

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    • Jeff says:

      They also seem to have conveniently forgotten all the rioting and mayhem by BLM and Antifa. It’s been going on all year and the Democrats, instead of trying to quell the violence, have been stoking it.
      The coverage of this latest disturbance by nearly all of the appalling MSM is just rank hypocrisy.

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  13. vlad says:

    It’s not just the President that Big Tech are censoring. They smell blood and are now after ALL conservative sites.

    To be precise, they have been for years but are now ramping up the witch hunt by several notches.

    They feel they’ve won the war and can now mop up the enemy with impunity.

    “The PURGE BEGINS As Tech Companies Start BANNING Conservatives In DROVES.”

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    • JohnC says:

      Twitter should have been crucified. But the MSM have kept very quiet. Now everyone else realises they can censor right-wing opinion without consequences.
      Dangerous times. My pitchfork is under my pillow. Ready and waiting.

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      • G says:

        John,
        The way it is going, you’ll probably need the pitchfork for fending off the police who have developed a habit of breaking into private property and attacking occupiers.

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  14. Doobster78 says:

    Smug, jug eared prick !!!!!

    Good to see the new rules on BBC staff using Twitter being enforced well !!!!!

    Can’t wait for the day this little runt comes a cropper !!

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    • JohnC says:

      Lets see what the new Director General does about this after his big words.
      I predict : absolutely nothing. Just posturing to avert any change to the license tax.
      I actually refuse to buy Walkers crisps now because of this spiteful jug-eared Lefty. And I had several bags a week. That must hurt.

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    • Jeff says:

      Our own particular swamp will be drained when we get rid of this jug-eared *rse-hole and the rest of the parasitic organisation that employs him.

      Do you know this smug, patronising, £$%& screws us for over 1.5 million quid a year to talk utter crap about football. FFS I do that every Saturday night for sweet FA.

      Gissa job…

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  15. Dover Sentry says:

    Ireland should now be part of the UK.

    It would solve the border problems, make the Irish richer and really, really annoy the IRA, the BBC and Biden.

    😉

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Dover – I winced when I read your first line . The relationship between blighty and Eire ? Long . Painful . We’re you joking ?

      But our relationship will be tested in coming months as we separate and take produce from places elsewhere than the EU /Eire ….

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        Fed, I felt a wince as I wrote it. But to quote a Labour MP (with reluctance) who said, ‘there is more that unites us than divides us’, there could be much to gain.

        Is Scotland FULLY united with the rest of the UK? I don’t think so. Perhaps with some sort of political half-way house, Ireland could accommodate us?

        Ireland is closer to the UK than the EU in many ways. Hands up those including myself who have relatives from the South?

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  16. digg says:

    Tonight I deleted my Twitter Account ands signed up for Parler.

    Just a spark in the bonfire which is raging right now now but it made me feel clean!

    Tomorrow I am looking at my Google accounts, more difficult as many are linked to my business in one way our another but if I have to I will.

    I urge all you’ll folks to seriously consider this as it is your and your children’s future at risk.

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  17. Fedup2 says:

    Digg
    It is worrying . James Woods – actor – of the Right – is very active on Twitter . Today he reports Twitter has reduced the number of his followers from 2.7 to 2.5 million overnight .

    I suppose that is the modern version of book burning – but we know what happens after books / views – are burnt . It could become a matter of ‘which list are you on ?” Inconceivable ….?

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    • digg says:

      Yes fedup, it’s crazy but these hi-tech nutters are so high on their global reach that they think they are invincible.

      I would dearly love to see the 75 million Americans who have just been shafted jump ship.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        I couldn’t work out why the general reaction to the theft of the US election was so docile – I’d include the capitol protests in that – those people are armed to the teeth yet there seems to have been muted response ….
        … to me it seems inevitable that there will be a more ‘extreme’ response – which will facilitate an even stronger crack down on unapproved use of the internet – yet alone physical protest ….

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        • Roland Deschain says:

          I suspect they still have faith in the rule of law. When they realise that has gone, anything could happen.

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          • Darcy3 says:

            I believe they were gathering evidence in Georgia while everyone else was concentrating on Washington

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            • Roland Deschain says:

              It would be nice to think so, and certainly the scale of the censorship would suggest they’re badly spooked by something. But I fear it’s wishful thinking. Dark days are coming.

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  18. JimS says:

    Over at IsTheBBCBiased they quote Ms. Spring (I am only 24)

    Those images, those interviews, were very, very striking because a lot of people really, genuinely, do believe allegations of rigged elections, of voter fraud – conspiracies that have been circulating on social media in recent weeks and months – very passionately, and in many ways too they have fallen victim to viral disinformation…

    … But today the suggestion from those people, influencers within those conspiracy communities, was that people causing the trouble yesterday were Antifa – anti-fascist groups. There is no evidence to support that idea, and a lot of the pictures they are using to demonstrate that show recognisable conspiracy influencers, generally on the far right. So those claims are not true.

    How does Ms. Spring know that she is right, sitting in front of her computer screen? Aren’t the likes of Reuters and the Press Association the progenitors of ‘viral (dis)information – they send it out and the newspapers and broadcasters just re-broadcast it.

    She has no evidence to support anything that she writes, she is just echoing what her ‘bubble’ wants to say, and it is a bubble that has increasingly already written the story that they want told, the ‘facts’ are an inconvenience to be ignored or at best ‘posted in six-point at the bottom of page 36’ a year later.

    People doing research are urged to go for the primary source. BBC subject editors are at best a tertiary source, hopefully they know their subject. Ms Spring is a good two levels below that.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Mariana is part of @bbcTr(uthB)ending team
      so not doing all her own work.
      “There is no evidence to support that idea,”
      #1 There is, I posted yesterday that the NYpost quoted a police source about 2,
      OK that is a tiny number though.

      #2 ” So those claims are not true.”
      … That’s the fallacy : Argument from Ignorance

      Things tend to be a theory first then you look for evidence
      eg There was no evidence for Quarks until big experiments were done.
      That does not mean quarks didn’t exist before evidence was found.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Do a lot of Trump supporters talk BS ?
      Yes, the is a segment that do 2+2=6,7 ”
      That’s the equivalent of the Democrats antifa section

      Even here people everyday go beyond 2+2 =4
      Like that Simon Parkes “I know The Vatican did it video”
      big theory but no evidence supplied,

      I bet in Russia the KGB actually funds people like David Icke
      so they can say to people
      ” there’s the Putin linea nd there’s the really crazy line, which side sounds good”
      ..when in truth you can disavow Putin, without following the crazies.

      So similarly if I were the Democrats I might well fund QAnon and Nazi groups.

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  19. digg says:

    Much more of this absolute bullshit to come Jim.

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  20. digg says:

    My father used to say cheats never prosper and I think we will come to see the truth of that observation in that in good time.

    There must be a lot of top people in the USA who have trouble sleeping right now.

    I just want them to be looking over their shoulder for some time to come.

    I can’t believe the citizens of the USA will be forced to swallow this lie for long.

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  21. Bulldog says:

    Looks like the cross channel invaders are trading up from inflatable dinghies, why use 4 for 30 people when you can easily stow away in a border force vessel?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-55604231

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    • G says:

      R4 news told me (strangely), it was about a 100 yesterday. What has Priti Useless got to say…………silence.

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  22. digg says:

    If trump comes back big time in 4 years which is not out of the question even though the left fearing this are pushing for impeachment to block it. How do you think he is going to handle all these smart-arse techie boys?

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  23. Anders Thomasson says:

    I fear I may have been indoors for too long. I read all of that stuff about shisha lounges above and found myself hoping that it started Maxi off…

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  24. Fedup2 says:

    Anders – I think I said it’s day 4 of lockdown ( with 79 days to the end on BST day ) – how you gonna be by then ?

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  25. The WestWyvern says:

    Some rumours on the socials about a Labour Party vote of no confidence in the glorious leader Der Kweer Charmer?

    Any basis or just more activists stoking the twitterati ?

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  26. tomo says:

    Looked on the state broadcaster web site … ‘nowt

    Will he be fed into the Twitter woodchipper?

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    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      We can expect some strong action on this by the Home Secy.
      She will boldly handout another 200 million pounds to the French!

      She is about as effective in dealing with The French as was King Arthur in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

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    • taffman says:

      tomo
      Where are the Tory MPs ? Where are the Tory supporters and voters ? Where are the Tory promises ? Where is the Home Secretary and Prime Minister on this invasion?
      Lockdowns only apply to the people of Great Britain .

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    • theisland says:

      I have quite a few ‘issues’ with NF but to be fair he has managed to maintain enough of a profile in some of the ‘media’ to draw attention to these abominations. The primary reason I used to vote UKIP was because they were then apparently the only party willing to protect our borders. The fact that the invasion of third-worlders continues to be actively encouraged as part of the new world order and that this site (which regularly complains about it) hasn’t been closed down suggests to me that nobody with any ‘clout’ monitors us.

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  27. StewGreen says:

    AdilRey tweeted joy at TalkRadio being deplatformed

    Today Adil enjoys 2 media platforms
    6.15pm Radio4
    10pm ITV panel show
    I guess neither will challenge him on his deleted tweet.

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  28. StewGreen says:

    Wonder what Panorama is planning for Monday ?
    some hatchet job

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  29. JimS says:

    Global Warming hits Spain:

    “The Spanish government has urged people to stay at home as the worst snowstorm in 50 years struck the country, bringing Madrid and the surrounding region to a frozen standstill
    At least three people die in Spain’s worst snowstorm in 50 years”

    The Guardian

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  30. StewGreen says:

    in the latest fortnightly complaints report published by the broadcaster’s internal regulator. 2,797 objections were lodged against the BBC between 21 December and 3 January,

    including 500 complainants who expressed that they were “unhappy the New Year Firework display referenced ‘Black Lives Matter’.”

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  31. StewGreen says:

    Boulton & SlyNews “Shameful and disgusting”

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    • Scroblene says:

      Fatso lost over a stone after that explanation of his stupidity!

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Wow – Boulton looked like he’d been done with one of those guns they use to despatch non halal livestock ……

        ….. I don’t think british journos are used to interviewees who ‘bite back ‘ – I bet he was glad the nice lady was on another planet and not standing next to him otherwise he might have ‘fell off the roof ‘…..

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  32. Eddy Booth says:

    Covid-19: Rapid tests for asymptomatic people to be rolled out
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55604677

    “Regular rapid testing for people without coronavirus symptoms will be made available across England this week, the government has said.”

    Dare to not work from home? Feeling healthy?
    Just for you, they’re “rolling out” ( how they love that term) “a regime” where you’ll get hauled in for regular testing, facing a possible home imprisonment term.

    In a way this reminded me of dystopian sci-fi story:
    “Philip K. Dick’s The Minority Report focuses on a society with virtually no crime; however, people can be guilty of pre-crime. Pre-cogs predict the future and punishment is meted out before any harm can be done to society..”

    The BBC article then continues with threats from so called scientists
    “lockdown measures in England need to be stricter to achieve the same impact as the March shutdown.”

    Impact? or did the wave just run it’s course, helped by people and shop’s washing things more, and the weather improving.

    “Meanwhile, London Mayor Sadiq Khan has welcomed the opening of a vaccination centre at the ExCel Centre in east London next week – which is also home to one of the Nightingale hospitals.”

    Was a nightingale, for a total of 30 patients..
    now its being refitted for non covid recovery patients.
    How about using it for sporting events etc again

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  33. Darcy3 says:

    Interesting, he has a point:

    IAN AUSTIN:

    “Could Congress attack happen in Britain? It could with our Leftie mob”

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13698941/congress-attack-happen-britain-opinion/

    “Who thinks people who praised ­violent street protests in Britain, supported the IRA, backed dictatorships abroad and allowed a political party to be poisoned by racism would protect our democracy?

    The good sense of the British ­people kept Corbyn out of power, but look at the way the hard left set up Momentum to strengthen their grip on the Labour Party. And look how the mob on social media target anyone who dares to challenge them.

    Would a hard-left government not have changed the rules to stay in power?

    Would the hard-line Stalinists they work with have accepted an election defeat?

    And ask yourself whether there is much difference between Trump inciting his supporters in Washington and John McDonnell backing violent protests in London?

    Around seven years ago he called for “insurrection” to “bring down” the Government and praised rioters who attacked — he said “kicked the s**t” out of — the Conservative Party’s offices just down the road from Parliament.
    DISGUSTING INSULTS

    In 2013, he backed illegal action to bring down elected governments, saying: “We used to call it insurrection. Now we’re polite and say it’s direct action.”

    And in 2015 he said Conservative MPs should not be allowed to “show their face anywhere” without being subjected to “direct action”.

    Both Trump and the hard left target the media just for doing their job.

    Abusing journalists for daring to ask reasonable questions became routine at Labour events. The hard left condemn Trump for sexism and demeaning behaviour, but women often bore the brunt of their attacks.

    Laura Kuenssberg, the BBC’s political editor, was subjected to the most appall­ing misogynistic abuse and threats. It got so bad that she needed a bodyguard at Labour’s annual conference.
    The good sense of the British ­people kept Corbyn out of power

    Imagine that: In modern Britain, a journalist needed to be protected just for doing her job. What a disgrace.”

    McDonnell repeated comments calling for Esther McVey, a government minister, to be lynched and called her a “stain of inhumanity”.

    Jewish women MPs got it worst of all, targeted with the most disgusting insults and violent threats. Luciana Berger needed police protection at Labour’s conference.

    She and Louise Ellman were chased out of the party and their seats in ­Parliament by ­racist bullies.

    What right have the hard left got to accuse anyone else of racism after the shameful way Labour was poisoned with anti-Jewish racism? A party with a proud record of fighting for justice and equality was found to have broken the law in its treatment of Jewish people.
    BIG LESSON

    What is the difference between Trump using conspiracy theories to claim the election result was stolen, and the hard-left “betrayal” myth that claims Corbyn almost won in 2017 but was cheated out of victory by sabotage by moderate MPs and Labour staff?

    And look at what McDonnell and Corbyn said about the IRA.

    McDonnell wanted “people involved in the armed struggle” — people he said had used “bombs and bullets” — to be honoured.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Darcy – how soon people forget – Parliament was usurped just over a year ago with a mixture of traitors and the use of a law – ‘the fixed term Parliament act ‘ without the need for any ‘invasion ‘ by the smelly masses … it was done from within .

      And notice that the corrupt ex speaker is still yapping from the sidelines along with the usual traitors as if his views have any credibilty or value at all …

      Happy many responsible for that are politically dead ….

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  34. Roland Deschain says:

    And now Parler has been taken off the Apple Store. With their monopoly of mobile phone platforms, Apple and Google desperately need to be broken up. But I can’t see any government in America or here doing that soon. All one can do is hit them in their pocket. I won’t be buying Apple when my current devices give up.

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  35. Richard Pinder says:

    My take on the situation.

    Christopher Booker said in Groupthink, A study in self delusion. Sooner or later, these new realities crowding in from outside will make it very difficult to sustain the bubble of scientific and political make-believe in which we have been living for so long.

    With Climate Change, the new realities outside of the bubble of scientific make-believe are a formula for the Greenhouse Effect based on Atmospheric mass, gravity and air pressure first suggested by James Clerk Maxwell in 1871, which was proved correct in 2011 for all known Planetary Atmospheres by Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller. The bubble has burst in Astronomy, Mensa, Tallbloke, biasedbbc and is bursting in many other areas. But I haven’t seen it in a book and it certainly hasn’t appeared in the mainstream media. It also feels like only one percent of the population realises that this is the most important scientific discovery in the 21st Century.

    But far worse for the bubble is the Election Fraud in America. The new reality outside of the bubble of political make-believe is that half of the population believe that there was massive election fraud. The reaction is to censor any mention of alleged election fraud. Judges who for four years looked into Russiagate without any evidence, now wont even legitimise evidence of Election Fraud out of fear of offending the bubble. Like the term “Hoax” in Climate Change, the only time I have heard the term “Election Fraud” on the telly and in newspapers, was in a speech by Donald Trump. So Trump is banned from the bubble.

    So is the bubble about to burst. It may be. There is a mystery about what happened to the CIA servers inside the US Consulate in Frankfurt. Was it a false flag by the bad guys. I haven’t heard anything from Trump but his team say the servers ended up with the good guys. This is important because the CIA servers will contain the only evidence of an attack by the CIA. CIA systems like Hamr and Kraken are designed to leave no evidence of Election Fraud.

    So maybe the military is waiting to act after the inorgriation of Biden. That way Trump will not be President when the Insurrection Act comes into force. A peaceful transfer to Biden as a puppet under marshal law for one year. A rerun of the election, Trump versus Biden. A restoration of democracy in January 2022.

    At the moment, that’s my best guess.

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  36. Darcy3 says:

    I do not recognise this country or the west in general anymore

    It has become a genuine dystopian nightmare

    I would say that this was what the UFO abductions were all about with their genetic experiments

    But any entity that had the intelligence to travel light years would not be so stupid as to hand our country over to islamists and those from Africa, one look at what they have acheived in their own war torn sh@tholes would be enough

    Khan, Lammy, Abbott etc are just the thin end of the wedge and there are plenty more complete and utter incompetents with jobs for life in failing useless local authorities around the country, “coz of diversity innit” I know from experience.

    Unless they are plotting the demise of humanity,

    if so, well done

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  37. Darcy3 says:

    Note to F2

    We have enough deranged leftist opinions in the msm do we have to listen to them here also ?

    trolls on this site should have a taste of being cancelled themselves, they demand it of all opinions counter to theirs eleswhere

    they will find plenty of other places to laud their new president who cannot string a lucid sentence together, with his crack smoking son, and to celebrate looting and arson by black people whos idea of protest is to nick TVs.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Darcy – the site deserves free comment – and we don’t get as many troll as might be expected – but with the coming of a false president there might be more ‘activity ‘ particularly after liquor hath flowed .
      A few trolls go straight to the bin without you seeing them but they tend to be ‘bot?’ Types as opposed those cut and pasting or just trying to pick a fight ….

      I do notice – though – that most trolls don’t mention ‘ defend their BBC – as if they don’t care about it …..

      More generally – I do fear that dissenting sites like this one and out friends could suddenly be ‘ expunged ‘ . But then I know that you cannot destroy thought – without destroying people … which seems to be the way things are going as polarisation gets wider and the ability to listen to a contrary view – understand it – and debate – becomes rarer ….

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      • Darcy3 says:

        You have a point, I was referring to “blackwells” various comments last night which simply reflected the far lefts mantra we all hear too often about the US election

        and used their tactic of insulting the intelligence / perspicacity of some posters on here

        such as “That is so unhinged its actually quite worrying. You should perhaps talk to someone about these things.”

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        • Seppers says:

          I’m not right wing but still find bbc bias/agenda intolerable and just plain wrong. And I hate censorship for political reasons and stifling of discussion. I believe in climate change but also believe that others have the right not to.
          I don’t fit in to the Left anymore, but my views are still basically old fashioned centre left.
          As the West world moves further to polarisation I don’t want to choose a tribe. I want to talk to people with a range if opinions.

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  38. JimS says:

    Some good observations by Fox’s Jesse Watters, including some wacky conspiracy theories from Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Cuomo and Pelosi for Marianna to chew over.

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  39. Darcy3 says:

    Worth looking at Bitchute, opinions there you will not hear elsewhere…..for the moment…

    “BitChute aims to put creators first and provide them with a service that they can use to flourish and express their ideas freely.”

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  40. Darcy3 says:

    Some Portugese Polyphony for Sunday

    https://youtu.be/EatHULkQgOw

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  41. taffman says:

    Brexit UK- The media lost.
    Election USA- The meeja won.

    Could the people of GB be a bit more discerning than the people of USA ?
    Yes, until the ‘educationalists’ finish their work with our kids and then the kids get to vote ?
    The Welsh Assembly is already bringing the voting age down to 16 .

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    • Darcy3 says:

      Halfway there Taffman, the age of consent has diminished considerably among certain communities here

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      • taffman says:

        Darcy3
        “ the age of consent has diminished considerably among certain communities here”
        While certain broadcasters, authorities and politicians ‘turned a blind eye’ in the interest of “Diversity” ?

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        • Darcy3 says:

          No need for a question mark there …local news at best

          the biggest sex scandal this country has ever seen, the industrial scale racially motivated mass rape of indigenous children by gangs of immigrants

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        • Scroblene says:

          Morning Taff!

          I’ve just spent the best part of an hour, trying to find an address in Llanidloes!

          Back in the sixties, my folks rented a converted chapel for a holiday, and I couldn’t remember where it was, but by coincidence, I found a letter yesterday from my mum, with the address!

          Still can’t find it – Geufron Chapel, Neuadd, Llanidloes!

          I expect you know where it is…

          Mwynha dy ddiwrnod!

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    • Doublethinker says:

      I agree and would add to the Globalists educational subversion their media subversion.
      The referendum result and the 2016 US result were both close run things but the democratic system and media systems pertaining at the time was such that the true results were published.
      Then the outrage of the elites kicked in and they tried and very nearly succeeded in stopping Brexit and pretty much succeeded in hobbling President Trump.
      On both sides of the Atlantic they increased their stranglehold on the MSM and became ever more draconian in what they would allow to be fed to the people and what they suppressed. They have built a world wide censorship and propaganda system for the globalist causers to which there is little of no opposition. This is the corner stone of their domination. Without total control of what ordinary folks know and don’t know they couldn’t get away with the great US election steal. In future this template will be used to subvert free and democratic elections everywhere.
      Coupled with their indoctrination of the young , which you refer to , they seem set to call the shots for decades to come.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      taffman

      For this reason I wholly endorse closing the schools during the lockdown or any other time.

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  42. Scroblene says:

    It’s very cynical of the BBC to tax the over 75s, who have paid for licences over many years, but expect to attract the younger generation.

    Kids and older kids don’t really give a hoot about the BBC, who are trying their hardest to be woke but with as near as full sex scenes as they can get by without any censure. Middle-aged kids are well into alternative forms of news and entertainment, so the BBC are really spitting on the very citizens they need to prolong their desperate survival. They know that the majority of late middle aged and more elderly people will cough up, because that's what British people do, but they are scared stiff that the new kids just won't bother!

    I wonder how many times Crapita invade all the sink tower blocks to get their dirty money?

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    • Darcy3 says:

      That is only one of the hypocritical things about the far left, they have no qualms about screwing money out of anyone so they have control of it and maintain their salaries, pensions and jobs for life

      whilst whining on about equality for all….

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      • Scroblene says:

        Of course, they’re paid by us, so we don’t figure!

        20% of your poll tax and also the TV tax goes on pensions for these people.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I very much doubt any kids in Tower blocks watch any bbc tv.

      Their mothers, however, from 10am-10pm…

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  43. Darcy3 says:

    Hers is a typical example Scrobs:

    FFS (again)………

    “‘Zoom classes invade our privacy’: The astonishing reason teachers are being excused live online lessons as survey reveals divide between state and private schools

    State school headteachers voiced concerns about staff ‘burnout’ in lockdown
    Most independent schools and top-performing state schools rolled out full days
    A primary teacher in Manchester said she ‘felt sick’ with nerves over live lessons

    State school heads are blocking teachers from hosting live online lessons, claiming that streaming classes from their homes is an invasion of privacy.

    As schools closed under new coronavirus restrictions, some teachers took to social media to complain it was ‘off-putting’ having parents observe them at work.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130327/Zoom-classes-invade-privacy-astonishing-claim-teachers.html

    In the middle of a national and world emergency and that is the contribution of our socialist teachers

    sickening

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    • Scroblene says:

      You only have to Google the websites of any independent schools, to see that most of their pupils and staff have adapted extremely well.

      So the parents of the kids going to such places are paying for education twice, by taxes for teachers at home, and the fees.

      That’s their choice, but it’s a shame that education is being dragged down to the lowest lot!

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    • Sluff says:

      The leader of the NEU had campaigned for ages to close schools (on ’safety’ grounds).
      Now they want to refuse to teach on-line.

      Anyone would think that the teacher unions want their members to receive full pay and pension (worth 23% of salary) for doing absolutely no work at all.

      Oh, wait……………

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    • Doobster78 says:

      As schools closed under new coronavirus restrictions, some teachers took to social media to complain it was ‘off-putting’ having parents observe them at work.”

      More like don’t want their lefty ideology / brainwashing of the kids exposed !!!!!!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Having parents watching teachers do their thing on computer has to be the best Quality Control possible . What better way of witnessing the personal views of teachers ( of any political shade ) than by watching them ?

      I got fed up – last week listening to MPs and others wingding about lack of free computers for the little kiddies and lack of free broadband for the darlings – teachers were also shouting for this .

      Well – if you as a teacher are nervous about being monitored by parents – be careful what you wish for …..

      Off the record – I used to do a bit of teaching of ‘adults ‘ in a past life – I hated it – but I can see how it could be an easy number for those who ‘can’t ‘…

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  44. Darcy3 says:

    As I have said many times, very similarto local authority employees who have honed two particular skills to the point of genius:

    1) To find as many reasons as possible not to do something (favourites include: not in our remit, health and safety, data protection, duty of care, legal liability i.e. we might get sued later etc etc)

    2) if they are cornered like a rat in an alleyway and finally required to do something, will shift it onto another persons desk with alarming finesse ( the usual tactic is to feign ignarance, ask another for advice, repeat a few times and then say “well as you know so much more…”

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    • Darcy3 says:

      Regarding point 2 this will usually take a few weeks of pointless emails or “meetings” until whoever requires the work will either forget or give up in complete and utter frustration

      job done

      ( any relatively “normal” person who has attended an internal local authority meeting will truly believe they have shifted into a parallel universe, any meeting before 10am and half of them will be eating bowls of cornflakes and toast etc (and in London Boroughs garlic bread) as they have been dragged out of their beds at such an ungodly hour, whilst discussing last nights tv for 30 minutes with frequent trips back to the microwave / kitchen to restock)

      I vividly remember trying to discuss an issue with one of them whilst they tried to talk whilst stuffing grapes in their mouth, and another was sitting next to be loudly cruching polo mints finishing a whole pack through the meeting

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      • Doobster78 says:

        I am said Local Authority worker.

        I can confirm Darcy’s post above is completely 100% accurate ????????

        At our place, it’s meeting about meetings and I kid you not, pre meeting meetings.

        The time wasted, the needless travelling to meetings is quite frankly, disgusting.

        Some lovely folk I work with but my god, they wouldn’t survive 2 minutes in the “real” world .

        Oh, and the breakfast / eating line had me in stitches ????. So true !!!

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        • Darcy3 says:

          Hah ! there will be hell to pay if they find you on here, you must be an expert in biting your lip and keeping your head down

          You have my fullest sympathy !

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    • Sluff says:

      Not to mention, especially in my first hand experience for civil servants

      3) ensure jobs are swapped around regularly so that no-one is ever accountable for the results of their decision-making (‘she has been moved to another department and is no longer in post’)

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      • JimS says:

        A variation on 3) is to re-name the department but keep the same staff, especially its head.

        ‘Lessons have been learned, we have set up a new department to address the problem’.

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  45. Darcy3 says:

    Regarding Dover’s post at the top of this page, maybe we could all have an attempt at “headlines and stories you will not see on the bbc / msm”

    I will make a start

    “No queues at Dover”

    “The scandal of the hundreds of Shisha bars around the country still opening during lockdown”

    “How many more muslim rape gangs ? we demand to know who will protect our children ”

    “Antisemitism is racism the left have relabelled”

    “Biden’s crack smoking son and the Chinese prostitute”

    ” All in lockdown yet why are we still letting in illegal immigrants ?”

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    • Sluff says:

      Darcy
      Good list to which can be added
      ‘Israel signs more agreements with Arab states in last year than at any time since its foundation’.

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  46. Sluff says:

    How’s this for agenda?

    On Radio 4 the presenter for the 0815 Sunday service was introduced as ‘environmentalist and theologian’.

    It can only be a matter of time before the BBC weather presenters manage to shoehorn in stuff about BLM, equality, LBGT, and Trump to explain each and every raindrop.

    I love Big Brother (Corporation).

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  47. AsISeeIt says:

    It would seem the people of Britain are largely approving when it comes to the policy of locking down the healthy in order to protect the NHS from a virus. One could argue about the science, or for that matter the logic of protecting our health services from an illness, but one thing is unaurguably true – this policy is economically expensive.

    The first of the inevitable tax increases is looming into view: ‘Sir Keir Starmer It’s absurd to hike up council tax at this time’ (Sunday Telegraph) – I’m not sure that the notion of absudity as a counter argument does justice to the supposedly forensic mind of the Labour leader (let’s excuse it as a sound bite) and with government deficits soaring upward like a diwali rocket it would seem the time to raise revenues is rather overdue. But we’ll also excuse Starmer here. I’m sure he’s written some well reasoned and not at all opportunistic article in the Telegraph. Oh yes, don’t raise tax locally, that’s absurd – have central government pay up instead because they harvest the magic money tree. His mate, little man Khan, Mayor of London, will I’m sure be resisting every local tax increase with all his might. (sarc – as the youngsters tend to text)

    So where have lockdown policies got us?

    The Observer would wish to distract us with the velvet (or should that be the rubber…) glove: ‘Doctors raise alarm as Covid strikes down NHS workforce’

    The Telegraph wields the iron fist: ‘Police to issue fines after one warning’ – not imprisonment, mind you. I doubt many of these restrictions would be upheld in court as lawful, and anyway it’s the cash the authorities are short of.

    At this point, were one to want to be satirical, one could speculate how many covid fines issued by Priti’s boot boys it would take to pay for an illegal Channel crossing migrant to be fed and clothed for a week?

    The Observer reckons its readers – who as we know from their circulation figures are a rather small and niche group – want to read ever more derogatory screeds about Donald Trump.

    “Donald Trump ate my hamster” (just kidding)

    The Daily Star on Sunday meanwhile also knows its audience: ‘SAS v UFO Special forces training for battles with aliens’

    Which, to be fair, is not that far from current reality in a week when Boris called in the army to fight the supposed mutant virus.

    Well what else could he do when all our doctors and nurses have thrown a sickie: ‘Service in crisis with 46,000 ill – BMA chief. Calls grow for tough new lockdown steps’ (Observer)

    Quite what further lockdown measures one dreads to think.

    Another lifting of the upwardly elastic Tier system to five and I’m likely to go banging on the gates at Wormwood Scubs, shouting let me in.

    I’m certain they’ve a full-sized ping-pong table in there which I don’t have and they don’t need to do their own shopping.

    Having to listen to all the tedious Wahhabi preaching going on morning, noon and night seems a small price to pay for convenient ease of availabilty of the recreational drugs.

    I mean for goodness sake, people in their eighties and nineties are dying in large numbers! People with life-threatening conditions are passing away every day! It’s a crisis for and of humanity.

    The Sunday People wins the prize for headline of the week: ‘Death is all around us.. so follow the rules’

    I don’t think that is a direct quote from the opening passage of a psychopathic child kidnapper’s note to distraught parents. Much less the latest decoded cipher message from the Zodiac Killer (there’s one for classic crime fans).

    However, had the Sunday People’s headline appeared on their frontpage constructed from randomly chosen typeface letters cut from various of its newspaper rivals, I would not have been much further disturbed. In fact, for a chap of my vintage the first thought on seeing such a thing would inevitably be – never mind the bollocks.

    Speaking of British vulgarity in the face of adversity, I’m considering staging a mass participation weekly event to rival clap for heroes. It’s called fart for Boris. Every Monday morning at 8 o’clock I suggest we all concentrate in our back passages and enthusiatically express our appreciation. Just me then?

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    • JimS says:

      “Every Monday morning at 8 o’clock I suggest we all concentrate in our back passages and enthusiatically express our appreciation. Just me then?”

      C’mon man! Think about the planet!

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      • Guest Who says:

        There was a piece of litter stuck in a tree on our walk today.

        A4. An XR woe poster.

        I could read it all as it was laminated both sides.

        Ironically.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Guest, “laminated” – no good for use in the smallest room in the house then?

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  48. Fedup2 says:

    Asiseeit
    Your suggestion in the final paragraph opens up a whole new area of BBC ‘all in it together ‘ coverage – inviting various ‘celebrities ‘ to take part – and maybe even compete ….

    … I see that the BBC ‘adverts ‘ have replaced socialist groupings of ‘clubs’ with individuals ‘doing things ‘ such as stirring a cup of tea .. perhaps there is a place for your suggested activity there …?

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    • Sluff says:

      Reference little man Khan.

      He’s made it as hard as possible to use a car in London, currently the safest form of transport. So people have to use buses, trains, and tube. The most dangerous forms of transport, currently.

      He’s removed road capacity and introduced cycle lanes. Guess what? These are non too popular during the freezing weeks of January.

      Khan is directly responsible for exacerbating the current London-based mass outbreak.

      And what do the BBC have to say about this?
      Absolutely nothing. Naturally.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        The BBC are really on-side with Socialism, are they not Sluff? I wonder how the latest Starmer ‘foot in the mouth’ will be reported by the BBC. Will it be fact checked by Marianna? Fact checked to discover Council Tax is a Labour approved tax, delivered at the point of riotous rebellion by Socialists to the far less expensive (to the taxpayer) Community Charge.

        Will the BBC remember the Council Tax rebels, some of whom went to prison because they could not afford the Council Tax, at the start of the 21st Century when Gordon Brown, the then Labour Chancellor, imposed hefty increases in Council Tax? I am almost totally certain they will not.

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        • Sluff says:

          OT
          I was always in favour of the Poll Tax, just as I am in favour that everyone should pay income tax.

          In both cases it can be related to the ability to pay, with lower rates.

          The crucial thing is that everyone should have skin in the game. No representation without taxation.

          Because it easy to vote for the party promising to spend the most on you when you are not required to pick up the tab.

          PS the average taxpayer funded contribution to the Local Government pension scheme is up to 19% of salary. A figure mysteriously hidden from every council leaflet ever produced, not easy to find online. Employee contributions for most are 6% or less.

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          • JimS says:

            Agreed, and probably most general benefits too, like child allowances.

            No need to do ‘means testing’ as the ‘rich’ pay it back in tax anyway. It does mean too that the ‘rich’ get to know what their poorer fellows get paid rather just an impression from whatever political party they follow.

            Actually I wouldn’t have child allowances, I would have transferable tax allowances so that, say, a single earning parent could pick up spouse’s and childrens’ allowances to set against personal tax.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Sluff, the Community Charge or Poll Tax was a great idea that was ruined by Margaret Thatcher. I’m in favour of massive tax reform.

            I suggest the following:
            – Scrapping all indirect, stealth and hidden taxes. They don’t work during Pandemics.
            Reducing our vast tax code to only a handful of taxes:
            – A Community Charge for Local Authorities related to ability to pay
            – Income Tax – ditto – but with everyone having the same basic allowance; derive income in UK then you pay IT here
            – Corporation Tax (IT for business, preferably at same rate as IT)
            – Capital Gains Tax with an allowance for everyone (preferably set at the same level as IT)
            – Value Added Tax or Sales Tax to be variable to encourage/support demand or reign in/restrict personal expenditure
            – Financial export tax (to keep capital in the UK) – really only to stop massive off-shoring (might be redundant as once tax reforms accomplished no-one will want to move out of UK)
            – Inheritance Tax with substantial allowance for everyone.

            Have I missed anything?

            To get to this position after the Pandemic it will be necessary to increase taxes overall and keep the current progressive higher rates of IT. Eventually, it ought to be possible to reach a single rate for IT so that everyone pays at the same rate. Central Government and Local Authorities would not be allowed to levy extra charges for things like Passports, Registrations, parking, Leisure Centres. It would all be funded directly and responsible Civil Servants, central and local, would have to be .. er, well, …. responsible for a change and work within their budgets.

            Ideally, the State would provide free education to tertiary, first degree level, free healthcare including dental, eye and foot care. The health care might require a mixed economy with an insurance payment but modelled more on the French system than the US system.

            I’m sure I have missed something and it will not work.

            The BBC will be hunting through Schedules A to F to find that special case of scrapping Case II of Schedule M will result in the habitat of the lesser spotted, big-eared vole coming under threat and will trail endless spokespersons across Farming Today, the TOADY programme and Ewan Yores on radio and Panorama on TV to say why we should keep the old tax system, including the TV Licence Fee.

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  49. G says:

    Pug,

    “Ayesha Hazarika, Muslim, brown, female, Labour, anti-white, anti-conservative….wow…perfect CV for a job in the BBC should she ever want a change of scenery.” + Self appointed, ‘Comedian’ apparently. That could be during the time of working with the senior Labour leadership.

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Ayesha_Hazarika

    Born in 1975 so she will not have any vivid recollection of the Three Day Week to colour her Marxist political viewpoints

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