424 Responses to Midweek Thread 21st April 2021

  1. Hereward Wake says:

    @Emmanuel Goldstein. Thanks for posting that. A sane voice, at last! Plus a few truths we don’t often get to hear about the way things are in America.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Hereward – as I repeat – America is a foreign country treated like it is linked to the UK – when it is not – and its’ ‘problems ‘ are imported to here by the Britain hating BBC .


  2. taffman says:

    “Biden: This will be ‘decisive decade’ for tackling climate change”
    Will this mean the US handing over all its manufacturing industry to China and India?
    If so, our ‘Gone Green’ Bo Jo is bound to follow suit.
    When did the Tory Voters call for this, and more importantly , when did Tory Voters call for mass immigration ?
    The majority of the people of Great Britain have one agenda while Parliament , what ever their ‘political colour’, has another .
    Do Conservative MPs exist anymore ?


    • Thoughtful says:

      Yes Conservative MPs do exist unfortunately, and they just as cowardly useless and incompetent as they are now.

      Read what happened inside the House of Commons when Winston Churchill gave his inspiring ‘we shall never surrender’ speech that everyone seems to think was broadcast to the nation, but in fact was only delivered to Parliament.

      Churchills wife Clementine lamented that the Tory MPs sat there stony faced and worried that they would never accept him as leader.

      The Tory MPs cowardice in the face of the National Socialist threat had in large part led to WWII and they have not only ignored Churchill but branded him a war monger.

      The last thing they wanted was to never surrender, they wanted to surrender as quickly as possible and save their own skins.

      All through the following decades they retained that cowardice – Edward Heath being a prime exampled, and John Major, and they only regained some semblance of courage when Margaret Thatcher led them, but they stabbed her in the front as well as the back when they thought they could get away with it.


    • StewGreen says:

      On Climate, Boris is the lemming leader


    • Pescara93 says:

      They ‘conserve’ the system and their place within it. Unfortunately more and more people are waking up to the reality that the system is shafting them where the sun doesn’t shine.


  3. taffman says:

    “Manchester Arena Inquiry: Police ‘had to wait in 999 queue’ after bomb”
    Bureaucracy gone mad !
    What next, ‘Police league tables’?


    • Thoughtful says:

      No not Bureaucracy gone mad one simple word of explanation suffices here – Burnham.

      When Cameron gifted control of Policing in all Britains major cities to his beloved Labour party, Manchester had voted against the idea of a Mayor, but being a good democrat and listening to the peoples views Cameron imposed first the anti Semitic Tony Lloyd on the city and then Andy Burnham – and that in a nutshell is the cause of the problems


  4. StewGreen says:

    ITV local news “Which magazine says Hybrid drivers have been misled about mileage
    … usually 60% less range than claimed”

    No wow do manufacturers use the actual optimum situation
    of perfect weather, perfect road, no hills, no heating
    to get the stats, everyone is completely surprised….not

    Meanwhile Leigh Day the ambulance chasing lawyers are trying to make Mercedes/VW diesels the new PPI claim thing.


  5. StewGreen says:

    SkyNews tweets
    ‘XR broke bank windows”
    97% of comments are against XR


    • digg says:

      Anyone notice that from all the photos they all seem to be women!

      Can anyone explain why that would be?

      Could it be related to the fact that most of the crazy cluck-clucking pile-ons on twatter, instagrunt and bookface is down to the ladies?

      As Andy Warhol once said “everyone is famous for 5 minutes!”


      • Tabs says:

        It reminds of the Greenham Common lesbian protestors. Some of them stayed years after the cruise missiles were removed.


      • Pescara93 says:

        Most of the worst derranged extremists are women – Maxine Waters, AOC, Diane Abbot, well any female Labour MP tbh, all those ISIS brides encouraging lover boy to man up and slaughter and rape more Yazedi women because they were *check notes* ‘jealous of their good looks’.


      • Rich says:


        Have noticed it before and was thinking the same thing yesterday.

        As Orwell said,

        “Winston had disliked her from the very first moment of seeing her …… He disliked nearly all women, and especially the young and pretty ones. It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy.”

        ― George Orwell, 1984


      • Guest Who says:

        From the footage, their deft use of manual tools.


    • Guest Who says:

      Katty RTd this.

      Hope she makes it.


    • Dobyns says:

      and to continue with the stinking thinking … how long until the BS retweets this.


  6. Guest Who says:

    I am guilty of it here with the BBC, but this highlights the dangers of generic shorthand.


    Yes the whole shabby outfit is rotten top down, but in this case a person, and likely persons, made several conscious decisions designed to mislead and likely create more heat.

    They are powers needing held to full account.


  7. Guest Who says:

    Rog, Matt & Justin sent a Lear to get Dame Emma to chat with Greta on Mishal’s show yet?


  8. Guest Who says:

    PBS? They are even more deranged than the bbc.


    • StewGreen says:

      It is the same series that is airing on the BBC.

      Bet it doesn’t mention that she took a yacht from the US to Spain so she didn’t commit the eco sin of flying
      .. However quite a few of the crew flew from Germany to the IS so they bring her CO freem


      • vlad says:

        According to Alex Belfield, the viewing figures and comments for the BBC doco were abysmal.


      • StewGreen says:

        typos : I meant “However quite a few of the crew flew from Germany to the US
        so they could bring her to Europe CO2 free.”


  9. Fedup2 says:

    I wonder what they’ll do /say / think when it turns out that the human global warming theory is wrong ?

    …. and we should have oxidised more carbon to stop a coming ice age ….?


  10. Thoughtful says:


    “I don’t consider it a failing… I don’t run Greater Manchester Police”, says Andy Burnham as his term ends with force in special measures

    What an arse! This is a man who has never been able to take responsibility for his own actions and for whom accountability means nothing. Alas with the UKs lack of democracy it is inevitable he will be ‘re-elected’ again this time.


  11. digg says:

    Having learned from the election that the way ahead is to cheat, I read that the Dems have voted to hand statehood to NY thus creating 2 additional guaranteed Dem senators.


    Sooner or later this shit-show will crash and burn!


    • Thoughtful says:

      The US Republicans are almost as stupid as the Tories are. They could have done a lot more to support Donald Trump, but most appeared to be rather embarassed by him.

      Now hopefully they will lose their wealth and their assets through savage taxation – and they will learn nothing because these foolish old men never do.


  12. theisland says:


    • StewGreen says:

      Tucker on a similar topic on April 2nd
      Biden’s Great Reset an Green New deal

      Steve Milloy live tweets

      #1 Only 200 YouTube viewers for Joe Biden’s #LeadersClimateSummit.

      #2 Down to 123
      The public is not interested in climate BS.

      #3 A mere 23 people on You Tube watching Kerry deliver closing remarks on Day 1 of Joe Biden’s #LeadersClimateSummit.


    • StewGreen says:

      Bush said “Jump”
      .. Tony Blair said “How high ?”

      Biden said “Jump”
      .. Boris Johnson said “How high ?”


  13. Philip_2 says:

    BBC’s cure for pandemic stress: the streaming sound of rustling paper
    New 24-hour stream on BBC Sounds app, aimed at promoting mental well-being, will also include ‘soundscapes’ from the natural world
    Is life at the BBC becoming too stressful for all the luvvies at the BBC? I read today at ‘The Standard’ ‘(London news freesheet) – that Jonathan Meades (BBC TV producer) -has given-up his job at BBC TV stating that they just aren’t producing anything of value more, so he’s pissed off, and left today.

    Meanwhile the pseuds (private Eye term that)
    The BBC is to broadcast the sound of pages turning and fabric rustling, as part of a new “relaxation destination”.

    The 24-hour stream on BBC Sounds will also include “soundscapes” from the natural world taken from Seven Worlds, One Planet, the Sir David Attenborough series.

    It follows the corporation’s success with broadcasts of “slow radio”, including birdsong on Radio 3, and “slow TV”, including a commentary-free, two-hour canal boat journey on BBC 4.

    The Sounds stream “will reflect the BBC’s commitment to supporting audiences to manage their mental wellbeing” and is available to all listeners, but has been devised by Radio 1 with a particular emphasis on helping young people who may have seen their anxiety levels increase during the pandemic…

    Its an ODD world up there at BBC towers!



    • StewGreen says:

      FFS such whitenoise background sound webpages already exist on the internet
      There is no need for the BBC to provide their own.


  14. Philip_2 says:

    As its loony Thursday today and BIDEN and Johnson are busy proclaiming in the (false) Climate Summit, one UK prof writer sums it up – what this means for your home.

    Telegraph Letters page:
    SIR – The Government appears firm in its plan to reduce carbon emissions by 78 per cent by 2035, but the costs and who will pay them are vague.

    The plan requires huge offshore wind farms, solar panel farms, nuclear power stations and hydrogen generation plants. This electricity-centric economy will push our primary energy cost to more than twice its current level. Every household will have to change from gas to electric heat pumps, and have car-charging facilities, at a cost of about £20,000. To meet the plan, we need to start now.

    If the Government spells out the true costs it becomes unelectable.

    Professor R G Faulkner

    I tend to agree. Its not sustainable. Biden is an idiot and Johnson is bluffing that it will work. The UN hope that it won’t work and communism will pick up the pieces (The Russians and Chinese know that it won’t work) and we can all live happy ever after. Nobody pays for it as there will be no money to pay for anything anyway (including the TV license). The BBC cannot see any bias in this.



    • Guest Who says:

      Can’t wait for the BBC geniuses to get excited by this.

      ‘Creating’ things by throwing other folks’ money at it.

      Until none is left.


  15. Fedup2 says:

    Is everyone ready for the BBC version of St George on Friday ?
    BBC facts

    He wasn’t English
    He never went to `England
    He didn’t speak English
    He wasn’t a saint
    He was a Muslim
    He was coloured
    He was a refugee
    He was an asylum seeker
    He was a trannie
    He was a vegan and socialist
    The cross of st George is ‘offensive ‘
    He didn’t exist
    Delete each of the above as you hear them ….


    • Nibor says:

      St George’s day used to be celebrated in the Middle Ages with outdoor events and jollity.
      The reason it died a death =
      Global cooling .


  16. StewGreen says:

    BBC local news item showed the ethnic minority vaccine outreach team in Scunthorpe.
    FFS ! Over the last 2 weeks Scunthorpe BAME outreach team have had 3 appearances.
    – One day we had the mosque, Tuesday the Sikh temple
    .. Now today pounding the Scunthorpe streets “in central Scunthorpe”
    Normally Scunthorpe is not on the local news prog very often so this BAME outreach team are very favoured.

    Volunteer Khan was shown
    Then roving reporter “In this region 90% of people have had the vax but for ethnic minorities it’s only only 82%” of the over 45s have had the vaccination.
    Most we spoke to had been vaccinated.”

    I guess that zone might have 20,000 BAME so over 45s might be 10,000 so 18% is 1,800 people
    (vs 40,000 white over 45s , where 8% non-vaccinated would be 3,200)
    So actually twice as many white are unvaccinated as BAME)

    Anyways I thought it didn’t matter about the final 20%, cos heard immunity needs 80% ?

    Item #2 – bit about Police Commissioner election

    Item #3 ‘whitey is horrible, he didn’t mark the war graves of non-Europeans equally with white-British
    … here is our favourite local MP from Hull Labour to explain ‘


  17. StewGreen says:

    “why YouTube REALLY suspended Rebel News”
    “They punished us with a one week ban
    and we know that they’ll eventually ban us permanently
    .. We’ve never even had a warning strike
    .. then suddenly they decided that an old 3 month video*
    that they’ve never complained about before now violated YouTube Rules”

    * ” That vid showed a short clip from a Donald Trump video , to show what was banned
    but YouTube said even showing that gets you banned
    BUT CNN, ABC both have videos that include that same clip”


    • StewGreen says:

      The Youtube award he mentions in the vid
      …. Sending yourself flowers on Valentine’s Day


  18. StewGreen says:

    The newspaper of record ?

    OR The newspaper of record PROPAGANDA ?

    Pushing theatre, not fair & balanced information


  19. StewGreen says:

    2 rarely mentioned Pakistani deaths


  20. harry142857 says:

    I will whisper it, in case anybody overhears ” Happy St George’s Day”.

    Other patron saints days are available.


    • tarien says:

      I have shouted it out Harry! Amazing that so little is ever mentioed about St George’s Day, yet we have St Patrick’s Day rammed down our throats, we have other such which I won’t mention in case I offend someone. Yes I’m and Englishman, as my Ancetors have been for 1000 yrs, I’m therefore white born in the Northern European area as my Ancetors, have no connection with any coloured people, and yet my senses are being directed to assume I am not an Englishman. People who come to live in this United Kingdom from other nations outside the UK can only claim residency and may have a British Passport, however they cannot as so many do, claim to be British they can only claim to be from Britian but not OF Britain. Sorry to labour the point, howver the extraordinary push to present us daily with the rights of Multicultuarlism has gone beyond annoying. Even though I know coloured people who have come to live in the UK and are respectful of our ways, many of their compatriots unfortunately have brought the ways of their lands into ours and like Oil and Water they do not mix.


  21. StewGreen says:

    “After Merkel confirms Nordstream2 gas pipeline will go ahead
    and orders 30m Sputnik vaccines,
    suddenly Putin is withdrawing his troops from the Ukraine border.”
    via Old Holborn


  22. StewGreen says:

    Steyn “China has snaffled the planet out from under the United States,
    but that’s no reason for the moth-eaten sock-puppet in the Oval Office not to demonstrate that he’s still a power to be reckoned with
    by holding an Earth Day summit on climate change.”


  23. LastChanceSaloon says:

    2021-04-22 09:00
    “Walton-on-Thames murder probe after man killed in car park fight”

    “One of the men got into his car and is reported to have driven at two people.

    A man in his 40s died at the scene and a second was flown to hospital.
    The owner of the car, a BMW 1 Series, has been arrested on suspicion of murder.”

    Let us hope that all involved are visitors from the Pre-Cambrian.

    Not that the BBC will tell us until court proceedings are underway.

    The Surrey Comet states the event took place approximately 2:15PM, so AL Beeb has used seven hours to look for suntanned excuses or blame Caucasians, preferably both.


    • gb123 says:

      Seems like inner city madness is spreading to Surrey. In the the same area there is a nut case roaming around cutting trees down with a chain saw. Times have certainly changed for the suburbs.


  24. JohnC says:

    Just listening on catchup to Ken Bruce (I can only bear to listen to him and Paul O’Grady now – and Ken is right on the limit these days) and, after the obligatory gay contestant on pop-master (who Ken bent over backwards (not forwards) to be extra nice to – as he is with women contestants), it has the news about the proposed football breakaway thing.
    And who did the BBC telephone for comment ?. Anyone involved in the leagues directly affect by it ?.
    Of course not. They called Laura McCallister, the deputy chair of the UEFA womens football committee.
    Drip drip drip.


    • Rich says:


      I saw a snippet from Sky on YouTube the other day, YouTube being the only place where I see anything from Sly Views or their comrades at the bBbc now.

      News of Mourinhos sacking was “breaking”, as all “news” seems to be on Sly, and a panel of three were on. A melodramatic middleman, an ex-pro in Stephen Warnock and a female ex-footballer Sue Smith.

      Who was asked first for their insight into the mindset of the once-great Mourinho? Yep, you’ve guessed it, Sue Smith. The ex-Doncaster Belles striker who has never managed at any level, was asked, seriously, for her valued view of where the ex-manager of Porto, Chelsea, Inter Milan, Real Madrid, Manchester United and now Spurs had gone wrong.

      Warnock hasn’t managed either, but he’s played in the Premier and Champions leagues, in my opinion making his opinion a hell of a lot more relevant than that of the token Scouser Smith, someone who I think ticks the same three boxes as bBbc super-pundit Alex Scott.

      Mind you I’m glad the pubs are opening again soon as then I’ll have access to many more opinions of equal value to Smith’s and at least be able to tell them what to do with it.


      • Guest Who says:

        I know zippy about footballisting, but always impressed by the money and mileage squeezed out of post match individuals essentially finding new ways to say ‘blokes on left tried to put ball in goal right; succeeded or were prevented in the course of 45 minutes by blokes on right. Swapped around and tried again. And vice versa’.

        I wonder if any daring commentator of social mores might one day channel their inner BBC editor, stick a mic under a nose of diversity and pose…. “there are some saying you were only hired because….”.


  25. LastChanceSaloon says:

    2021-04-23 01:00
    “Court case delays left assault victim waiting over a year

    The government has announced emergency funding to help tackle huge delays in court trials.

    The backlog in Crown Court trials has been rising by 1,000 each month.

    Delays were being seen before Covid due to cuts in budgets.

    The emotional impact of waiting for court cases to be heard can be devastating.

    Read more: Deal struck to combat Crown Courts backlog”

    So I read more, and Labour Party geniuses, like low IQ Lammy, are encouraged to blame Boris and Co.

    No attempt by Al Beeb to identify the criminals.
    They do not want us to discover that the backlog is actually a blacklog.


  26. LastChanceSaloon says:


    2021-04-23 00:10

    “Akayed Ullah: Times Square subway pipe bomber jailed for life”

    “He later claimed he had only wanted to kill himself and was not acting on behalf of the Islamic State (IS) group”

    “Ullah was from Bangladesh but moved to the US in 2011.”

    Al Beeb were relieved to find it was NTDWI.


    • JohnC says:

      As usual no use of the words Muslim, Islam or Terrorist and the only mention of ISIS is to deny they were involved.
      But they manage to get ‘Trump’ in there.
      I am now certain the BBC have a new policy not to mention the word ‘terrorist’ when talking about Muslim attacks. Or the word Muslim. I would love to see the memo where they did it.


      • Pescara93 says:

        I expect it will get to the point where they won’t even cover the event, rather like in the US when national broadcasters completely ignore mass shootings by non white gunmen.


        • Guest Who says:

          On matters musical, sources close to the bbc understand that critics are demanding ‘Norwegian Wood’ by the Beatles be renamed as it might prejudice rape trials.


        • JohnC says:

          While I was ‘on leave’ (ie thought this forum was down) I saw a story on the BBC about some Muslim terrorist (I can’t remember the detail) which was top story at midnight, side story at 3am and gone from the front page by 6am.
          If I was not in Thailand, I would not have seen it.
          I couldn’t post it here obviously and of course I can’t find it now.
          This is how they bury stories which don’t fit the agenda but keep evidence of covering them to refute allegations of bias.


      • Guest Who says:

        Meanwhile, as the US media and Mr. James make a pig’s ear of trying to whip up the mob on the BonB intervention, here is the national broadcaster doing its best with Stirring With Floyd 2…

        BBC News

        The death of Daunte Wright, who was shot during a routine traffic stop near Minneapolis earlier this month, sparked mass protests.


        Starring… Al Sharpton.

        No legal insights from Sleepy or Boris yet.

        Marianna is checking Jon’s facts once she is done with rabbit holes and feet from the last century.


  27. LastChanceSaloon says:

    2021-04-22 22:20

    “Covid-19: Delhi hospitals run out of oxygen supplies”

    “BBC India correspondent Yogita Limaye reports.”

    “One family’s story
    Sukhbinder Singh lives in Leicester in the UK and told the BBC that his mother, 90-year-old Harbans Kaur, died on Wednesday in Delhi after she and seven members of his family tested positive for Covid-19.

    A nursing home refused to admit Ms Kaur without a family member to care for her, but no-one was well enough to do so and she had to stay at home.”


    2021-04-22 22:30
    “Coronavirus: WHO urges African nations to keep expired vaccines”

    “World on brink of ‘catastrophic moral failure'”

    “Out of 55 African countries, 41 have benefitted from the delivery of vaccines via the global-sharing scheme Covax. Seven are yet to receive their first batch.

    The Covax scheme aims to ensure vaccines are shared fairly among all nations, rich and poor. So far, more than 38 million doses of vaccine have been delivered to 98 countries.”

    [I shall now learn about a ‘catastrophic moral failure’ Expecting that the West will be failing.]


    January 18
    “Covid vaccine: WHO warns of ‘catastrophic moral failure'”

    “The world faces a “catastrophic moral failure” because of unequal Covid vaccine policies, the head of the World Health Organization (WHO) has warned.

    Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said it was not fair for younger, healthy people in richer nations to get injections before vulnerable people in poorer states.”


    “The panel of experts was led by former New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark and former Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf.”

    [What a relief to know that the experts are available.]

    Simultaneously, in 2010, there were major earthquakes in Japan and New Zealand and widespread bush fires in Australia.

    In the affected countries there was no clamouring for aid and negligible acceptance of specialist aid which was offered.

    The affected populations rolled up their sleeves, buried their dead and started rebuilding what had been destroyed.

    Not a begging bowl in sight.

    Well passed time “independent” states were actually independent.
    Send some film of Japanese and New Zealanders repairing infrastructure and 999,999,999,999 Condoms.

    Repeat on BBC 4 now “What the Africans did for us”, 8.4 nanoseconds.


  28. Scroblene says:

    And a new turbine generator for Orkney, LCS – much dribbling on R5’can’tbreathe’!

    Happy St George’s Day everyone, I have no problem respecting the one’s national flag, it beats a lot of the rags used by some of the despot-ridden holes!

    (And I did support Taffman on March 1st)!


  29. Scroblene says:

    Just as an aside, how is it possible to write a post here and use – say – bold, or italics, or do the cross-out widdly thing?

    Do commenters write their posts in Word, then cut and paste?


    • AsISeeIt says:

      Bold, Italics…?

      I’m probably not the best person to try to explain this – it’s a real fag of a procedure. Word copied in here won’t do it.
      I’ve been advised to go to “Is The BBC Biased” blog – while it’s still with us? For heaven’s sake don’t copy Word in there or you’ll get enormous spacing issues. Use the Italic and Bold features in their Disquis comments feature and copy your text back here. You’ll see little notations in the form you need which translate to bold and Italic and if you have those on your keyboard (madeningly I can’t type those symbols in here) but knowing what they look like you can type them around a “b” and an “i” to start and to stop your bold and italics directly here.

      They share the comma and full stop keys on my keyboard.

      I’m sure that’s as clear as mud.


      • Deborah says:

        Even on my laptop, using underlining or bold seems impossible. On the iPad even typing isn’t easy. Just once in a while I will resort to upper case but I know people will think I am shouting (you see once in a while I can use a technical term, or is it jargon?).


      • tarien says:

        Not even mud!


    • Up2snuff says:

      Scrobie, I learnt it from Stew. diamond* left ‘b’ followed by diamond right and then immediately after the text you wish to embolden diamond left slash / + ‘b’ followed by diamond right. If you wish to italicise, use the letter ‘i’ or cross (strike) through text for humourous effect use ‘s’. There may be other options as well.

      This technique has a name but Snuffy’s brain is not yet awake – haven’t had second mug of tea yet – might be called hypertext.

      * I call this < a 'diamond left' but keyboard experts probably know the correct name for it along with ~, { and ^.


      • Guest Who says:

        Sade’s Difficult Second Album?


        • Up2snuff says:

          Think it was her first album, not second. Had to check out Sade’s discography to decipher your post, Guest. Have you had the job of creating crossword puzzles for the Times newspaper? I think you’d be good at it.


      • Up2snuff says:

        There is a handy list on the interwebbythingy put up by excelnotes.com, no less. Type in ‘names-of-the-keyboard-symbols’ after a forward slash. How to waste time during Lockdown. 🙁

        Excel Notes. I remember them! Takes me back thirty years or more. Rivals to Lotus Notes. Lotus 1,2,3. Aaaah! Nostalgia. Either that or Neuralgia.

        Here’s a puzzle: if there is a ‘grave’ accent on a keyboard, why is there no ‘acute’ accent?


      • Banania says:

        I think “u” works for underline. Here goes, testing: test
        Edit: no it doesn’t.


    • Old Goat says:

      Bold = your text
      Italic = your text

      For example.

      For bold, put B within a left and a right chevron, write your text to be emboldened, and end bold by putting /B within left and right chevrons

      Same procedure with italics, but use i and /i within the chevrons.


  30. JohnC says:

    Since the totally OTT original coverage of Sarah Gilbert stood arms-folded like a God for single-handedly being the woman who saved the world then reading the deliberately confusing and carefully worded Oxford vaccine test results to cover up breathtaking incompetence, I have been sceptical of anything I read about it.
    So this caught my attention: One Covid vaccine cuts infection risk in all age groups
    Particularly because I noticed it is deliberately combining the Oxford and Pfizer vaccine results to give a combined figure of 65% effectiveness.
    So I followed the link to the report to see what it actually says. And sure enough, in the UK the combined results show 65%.
    But there are also some more results unmentioned by the BBC from the USA which indicate 80% for the Pfizer and 90% for the Moderna vaccines. So it seems the Oxford vaccine has dragged the result right down.
    The BBC also say there is no data for 2 doses of the Oxford vaccine – but the report states quite clearly that in one sample, two doses of Oxford gave 70% whereas two doses of Pfizer gave 95%.
    The report is full of various data and it’s clear the BBC have cherry picked and ignored it to match their agenda.
    The Oxford team have been funded for years on a very cushy number to prepare for this very situation and somehow Gilbert stands to gain over 10 million when the company is floated when I thought she was funded by Oxford University. Yet their result was not even first and it appears it is the worst of all vaccines by some considerable margin. Somebody should be asking questions about these people and all the tax money they received. I suspect the real situation behind the scenes is even worse than I imagine.
    I understand the desire to maintain public confidence, but as an engineer, I really don’t like to see such lies and misinformation on such a big scale.


    • Up2snuff says:

      John, was it Sarah Gilbert who has misused scientific language this morning?

      When I first heard the News on TOADY, I thought she was making a pun – the Pandemic for the UK is now an end-demic. But no. Sir Jeremy Farrar has just misused the same word in an interview on TOADY.

      Far be it from me to teach two scientists some science; I will do it in the form of a question instead. Do you not move from a Pandemic to an Epidemic before you reach a virus being Endemic?

      That is what I have always understood. Similarly, the spread of a virus from one country, ‘an epidemic for that country’ to the world progresses Epidemic to a Pandemic.

      Sir Jeremy came out with another scientific howler on TOADY. He said Lockdowns were a last resort. No, no, NO. They are a first resort. And then only for a limited time. Especially in an island nation like ours. Or New Zealand.


      • AsISeeIt says:

        Pandemic, epidemic, endemic…

        You like tomato, and I like to-mah-to

        Let’s call the whole thing off


        • Up2snuff says:

          AISI, chuckle, but I think only ‘Dr Ted’ can declare the Pandemic over and it ain’t over until we have sent our vaccine supplies over there, over here, over everywhere. There could be another song in that last bit, too.

          We’ll have to wait for the Dr Ted talk 😉 before the Pandemic ends.


      • Guest Who says:

        BBC Exclusive #PRasNews from Rhododendron Always Wong, Cubicle Garden Food and Far East Bug Editor:

        Pizza Hut has introduced a Quattro Deep Pandemic version using Modena, Pfizer, Sputnik and one they liked made from Wuhan Fledermice.

        Deffo not AZ… Engleesh scum!


        • Up2snuff says:

          Guest, I am sure you could dot some mozzarella on top of sliced pepperoni or salami to make it look just like the pics that we have seen of the Covid virus. “Yummmhhh!” or is it “Eeeeewe!” ?


      • Banania says:

        I bet this thing is already endemic, but no one is going to tell us, of course. There is all this control-freakery to put in place first.


  31. AsISeeIt says:

    Make it so

    Experts have been looking at data.

    You’ll never guess what they’re saying… ‘Britain officially no longer in a pandemic’ (Telegraph)

    Let’s read on to find out whether the experts define precisely what a pandemic is (or was?) and on what basis we’re no longer in one.

    Unfortunately, we don’t find anything so clear. What we do see is: ‘Britain had “moved from a pandemic to an endemic situation”

    Pandemic, endemic… are they taking the mick?

    Confusingly for this layman, our experts need to take loads of swabs of people after they’ve had a vaccination to declare we’re out of the pandemic, whereas they didn’t seem to bother with much testing to declare back in March 2020 that we’d suddenly gone into one. Just scary news reports from Italy by way of Wuhan. All that today’s report with that hopeful headline really amounts to is to repeat the official line of get your jab.

    I’ll start to believe we’re over the hump when the daily quotient of female celebrity angst features reaches a certain level in the press. ‘I have stage fright’ – Olivia Coleman’s exclusive in the Times this morning is a promising indicator of normality. That must make the acting tricky, luv.

    US emissions “will be halved” after global leaders unite’ (Times) – and apparently it’s as simple as that. Global warming solved.

    Star Trek Captain Jean-Luc Picard had a catchphrase that went: “Make it so” – which given the rather militaristic sounding command and the sci-fi suspension of disbelief one-world-government united galactic federation context, seems quite fitting.

    The planet’s had enough hot air, it’s… time to step up!’ – so says the freebie government/corporate advertising funded Metro in its laughably millennial targeted headline.

    The giveaway does provide us a glimpse of our one world governmental line up.

    In the big chair – he’d get tired and need a nap if he had to stand for too long – is of course the man who put the Darby into Darby and Joan, the Democrat US President: ‘Joe Biden launches Climate Summit

    We have global lift-off! (or in Biden’s case stair lift off?) Let’s boldly go… where no non-binary, gender non-specific person has gone before…

    And your cabinet of all the talents pictured on the frontage of the Metro – I’m picturing them on the bridge of the starship Spirit of Unfree Enterprise: Mr Sulu – China’s Xi Jinping – presumably taking care of all the finances, all the manufacturing and energy production; He’s not exactly as alluring as Lieutenant Uhura but here’s South Africa’s Cyril Ramaphosa, no doubt the representative for diversity because these days that’s a big issue; India’s PM Mr Modi, we’ll assume he has the communications brief given the number of bloody call centres in India and that’s the location where thousands of previously working-from-home soon to be outsourced middle class corporate office jobs are about to disappear to; Mr Chekov with his finger on the phasers and the photon torpedoes is obviously Russia’s Putin, expert on defence and security matters; Sorry Spock, there’s no room for a real Science Officer; and last and least Boris Johnson, the red shirted nobody about to get zapped by the aliens and hardly missed by the rest of the important crew members, as our very own minister without portfolio.


  32. taffman says:

    A happy St George’s day to you all from us taffs across Offa’s Dyke !


  33. taffman says:

    “Covid: Welsh pubs and restaurants to open indoors in May”
    Things are moving a little quicker here as there is an election on the way, Labour and Drakeford are getting worried, very worried .


    • Dobyns says:

      taffman, not sure whether you saw this or not


    • Banania says:

      Is Drakeford the Babe Magnet a teetotaller? That would explain some of his behaviour.


  34. The WestWyvern says:

    Not provisional bbc, but global radio news network. At 8am they had a piece on the fall out post the EU Super League (yawnnnn) and who should they turn to for his deep and insightful views into the future of the game, how should be run and controls over club owners??

    Yep, you guessed it, the cock o the north him self, Andy bloody Burnham.

    Shouldn’t he be concentrating on all things relating to, well whatever it is that he does? Answers on a postcard….

    Ps, Happy St George’s day 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


    • Fedup2 says:

      Happy St George’s day – which coincides with India now being put on the ‘no travel ‘ list about 3 weeks too late . But those plane loads of Indians scrambling back will circulate the latest variant …
      ……….officially 5% of flights have been returning covid positive …..
      ……. although what news of Pakistan …are they dropping like flies as well ? Will we be hearing of NHS trained Indian doctors going home to help out ?

      Update – I’ve just seen that the BBC website is big on India so I guess it won’t be long before we hear demands for ‘mercy flights ‘ by the plucky RAF – using the last aircraft they have …


      • tarien says:

        Oh no Fedup, they are Pakistani and so follow the teachings of Islam, how can they possibly be carrying a virus that has not read the Quran?


        • Pescara93 says:

          Yes it’s funny why the BBC pick on covid cases in Brazil and India so much, isn’t it? I wonder why that can be 🤔


          • Guest Who says:

            Far Right and Central East focus?


            • StewGreen says:

              Covid : I do wish the BBC would stop banging on about the UK has the lowest cases/million of any European country
              and that it has the lowest deaths/million except Iceland

              Cases are only falling by 6% per week
              so we are a long way from zero yet



              • StewGreen says:

                To be clear I was only being sarcastic about the BBC not reporting it
                Both my initial statements are true
                ..but we are still not heading for zero deaths very quickly.


    • Up2snuff says:

      West, you can tell it’s local election time. I expect the BBC will find a news item on which Mayor Sadiq Khan just has to be brought on for a comment.


  35. Up2snuff says:

    Oh dear. I think the web-site software is misbehaving again. I’m posting in reply to posts but the post is ending anywhere but in the right spot. My post above should be offset under Pescara’s post as I clicked on TWW’s Reply clicky.

    Hope it is not going to be another of those difficult weekends . . . …..


  36. richard D says:

    BBC Radio 4 ‘Today’ programme strives mightily to continue the BBC’s endemic tradition (see above) regarding reporting on Palestinian/Israeli issues. It leads all it’s bulletins and reports this morning with news of riots in Jerusalem involving ” ‘Far-Right, ultra-orthodox’ religious Jews, Palestinians and Israeli police…” – note the order of the players mentioned, and the emphasis on the political persuasion of the Israeli citizens involved. The on-line version goes further, descending to using the words ‘extremist’ and ‘ultra-nationalist’ to describe the Israelis – but neither uses any adjectives whatsoever to characterise the Palestinians involved.

    The Today programme also mentions that over a hundred Palestinians were injured, with a small number needing hospital treatment. (The fact that 20 police were also injured was not mentioned, obviously, because that would point to the fact that the injuries were not really caused by the aforementioned Israeli citizens, but were incurred by the Palestinians attacking the police.

    The BBC then coyly mentions incidents involving Palestinians on previous evenings, almost as an aside.

    What the BBC does not report is that Palestinians have been causing significant problems, and attacking the police in the area every evening for the past 10 days, since Ramadan started. They are choosing to block access to parts of the city, and attacking the police, who have been trying to keep access open.

    The Palestinians have also been targetting and attacking individuals and small groups of Ultra-Orthodox Jews each evening. But, of course, it is simply ‘de rigeur’ for the BBC to absolutely ignore any Muslim attacks on Israelis until they have escalated to the point where any retaliation occurs from the Israelis – at which point, the BBC wades in, and fundamentally tries to lay the blame on the Israelis for all of the problems.

    Total and utter ‘Bias by Omission’ by the BBC – as it always seems to be when it comes to Israel. Nobody is saying Israel is pure and virginal, but for God’s sake, BBC – you have the responsibilty of being impartial in such cases – and you are very, very far from being so.

    And we all thoiught that anti-Semitism was only rife in the Left-wing Labour Party – the BBC is obviously affiliated, in every respect, to Labour.


    • Banania says:

      As so often in current affairs, I am bothered by the question: What is the motive? Why is the BBC against Israel and on the side of the terrorists?


  37. LynetteO says:

    BBC Radio 4’s News headline at 6:30am today was that “100 people were injured in Jerusalem in demonstrations by far right Jewish extremists. It followed a number of race hate incidents”.

    This was totally misleading. (a) It was not ” far right” Jewish extremists demonstrating (b) the figures of injured were invented by the Palestinian Authority (one Israeli policeman was injured by an Arab throwing a rock) and (c) the race hate incidents were Palestinian Arabs beating up and stabbing Jews.

    There are sadly always incidents of Arab violence during the “holy” month of Ramadan but this time Palestinian Arabs have been inciting the violence by filming their racist crimes and posting them on social media (especially on Tik Tok). This is new and is escalating the violence against Jews.

    Jews were demonstrating against these incidents and Palestinian Arab thugs in Jerusalem were throwing rocks, fireworks and firebombs at them.


  38. richard D says:

    I have heard ‘the Blessed Greta’ being eulogised on the BBC for days now, as she lashed out at anyone who does not share her views, that the growing world population will only be more badly affected by ‘Global Warming’ as the years advance.

    Please note here, that no-one in the so-called ‘scientific community’, whose views she fully advocates, seems capable of putting two and two together on this issue, since this population growth, by itself, will create more so-called ‘greenhouse gases’, and is potentially a hugely fundamental problem if ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’ is to be believed (the clue here, BBC, is in the word ‘anthropogenic’).

    However, I never hear Greta and her ilk discuss what we should do about population growth in this situation. But population numbers are in decline in the indigenous populations of the Western world, and so, of course, she and her co-conspirators can’t lay the finger of blame in that direction – and that perhaps is the fundamental problem for these people in this respect – it is not the Western world where the problem is increasing.

    In fact, someone on the BBC ‘Today’ programme let the cat out of the bag this morning, that so-called ‘Grenhouse Gas Emissions’ reduced last year, again, in the US, under the leadership of a certain D J Trump – cue a few red faces at the BBC ? – unlikley. And, of course, with unfettered immigration at the hands of Mr J Biden and the Democrats, will that reduction continue – again, unlikley ?

    So the culprits here lie elsewhere in the world. But no-one is going to speculate on that little problemette, whilst trying to screw every last penny out of the West for the Quangos and NGOs of the world.

    And then, same programme this morning, the announcement that potentially simply exacerbates this issue out of all proportion – someone in Oxford, UK, may have ‘unfortunately (?)’ developed a vaccine with 77% efficacy in combatting malaria. Whilst the BBC was rejoicing unreservedly, nobody gave any thought about what that might do to the the ever-increasing world population, and therefore, to their pet peeve, ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’ – and, of course, starvation, for instance.

    Not seeing the wood for the trees, there, BBC – but then again, most of them are only activist newsreaders, so what can we expect ? They will speculate wildly, and often snidely, about the least little thing if they think it might damage the Conservative government, but when obvious clamities might occur as a result of events outside the Western world ….. silence, nothing, nada. They probably haven’t worked out how to lay the blame on Mr and Mrs UK yet, for any potential disaster this may bring about .

    ‘Twas ever thus.


  39. Eddy Booth says:

    For bold and Italics


  40. richard D says:

    For all the experts out there on whatever the formatting procedure is called……..is there a simple equivalent for ‘underline’ and ‘strikethrough’ ? i.e. between the chevrons ?

    They can be handy as well, and I was sure I had seen something a long time back, but I’ve forgotten what it was.

    Any assistance will be appreciated


  41. Tabs says:

    Nothing really to do with the BBC but the rules posted to enter “George Floyd Square” are very similar to the rules posting comments on a BBC Have Your Say!


    • JohnC says:

      And if you don’t follow the rules white people, be prepared to be stabbed or shot.
      Plenty of black people much more worthy than George have been murdered. But it was by other blacks so these racist hypocrites don’t care.
      It’s the KKK in reverse. Just try to imagine the world if THESE people had been the dominant race. There would be no white people left to demand equality.


    • Banania says:

      Let pilgrimages begin, and cures be announced, as it happened here.

      And specially from every shires end
      Of Engelond to Caunterbury they wend,
      The holy blisful martir for to seke,
      That hem hath holpen whan that they were seke.


  42. StewGreen says:

    Rotten Politics : We did not vote green Boris, ! £1 Trillion estimated cost😡

    AFAIK It’s not even 3%
    (3% is electricity, there is other power like petrol, diesel, kerosene for transport
    gal/oil/coal heating etc.)


  43. StewGreen says:

    SkyAust taking the mickey out of XR video
    pushing wheel barrows of cow dung to dump on Biden’s steps
    – London Window smashers
    – Aus nutters
    – Californian MP quoting her 9 yo
    “The Earth is on Fire !”


  44. StewGreen says:

    They also take apart the Australian Aunty’s theatre of Chauvin coverage


  45. vlad says:

    The charity Victim Support reports a surge in race hate, according to The Sun.

    Could it be that all the militant race-baiting in the US and UK is fuelling that surge, by the law of unintended consequences?

    That the average, decent, non-racist Brit is sick to death of being relentlessly accused of racism by the likes of the Far-Liberal BBC?

    That all the kneeling, riots, clenched fists, public show-trials, destruction of statues, renaming of streets, denigration of our history, attacks on buildings and institutions, vilification of our heroes, guilt-shaming of the public; the endless mea-culpas, sackings, cancellings and deplatformings are pushing ordinary people to say: ENOUGH, and producing a racist backlash?

    J’accuse la BBC.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Dividing the country by continuous race this and race that it the method the Marxist BBC is using to destroy Blighty – so that victim support statistic might well be an indicator of BBC success.
      The BBC is assisted by the likes of state education and to a degree – plod .


  46. BRISSLES says:

    So true Vlad, and without exception, everyone I know feels exactly the same way. All this relentless racist crap, is having the opposite effect than the far left are desiring. Those that never even gave racism a thought, are now feeling resentful and peeeed off.


  47. StewGreen says:

    2:15pm R4 drama is a repeat from 14 months ago

    Maynard begins refurbishing the Brixton community café she ran so successfully.
    Everyone is invited to her memorial service in the café but, before Maynard can finish, thugs come and destroy all his work.
    Will he and Jules have to borrow money from drug-dealing Marcus to get the place up and running?

    Fraser Ayres who wrote the drama and plays Maynard is co-founder of Triforce Creative Network and Dandi
    which encourages diversity in the media industries.
    Fraser is currently the lead writer on Idris Elba’s In the Long Run for Sky.

    #Tickboxing ?