245 Responses to Start the Week Thread 19th April 2021

    • StewGreen says:

      Catchup links to latest posts on the previous thread
      page 2 started lunch on Saturday

      A lot of noise at the end from the trolls trying to gaslight us.
      They are not likely to supply us with a great list of BBC staff who said melting iceberg are going to cause dangerous sea level rise
      ……. cos that would be against a basic rule of physics.


      • NCBBC says:

        Back at last. I was going Cold Turkey.

        For a moment I thought you were got at.


  1. StewGreen says:

    Dr. David Starkey: I Was Cancelled but I Won’t be Silenced for Speaking Objective Truth
    New exclusive 1 hour video from Peter Whittle


    • Old Goat says:

      I enjoyed that.


    • NCBBC says:

      Though it is on UTube, which means that it can be cancelled at any moment.


    • NCBBC says:

      America is worth watching closely, as that nation is moving closer to civil war.


      On top of it, China and Russia can see that America is not led well, and the nation is bitterly divided. Its an opportunity.

      Such a situation does not bode well for us, as we are the only European nation with a decent military capability.

      Instead, we are pre-occupied by a flu, and vaccines that have limited capability.


  2. Up2snuff says:

    I hope Halifax and Lobster have both received and noted the e-mails about the new site. Do let us know how both of you are getting on.


    • Halifax says:

      Can I just say a big thank you to you all for your kind words and thoughts. I’m now 100% health wise so I’m looking forward to joining you lovely people back on the site, exposing and discussing the BBC utter contempt and loathing for a country and culture we cherish.

      God Save The Queen.


  3. StewGreen says:

    Sargon new one hour of video about crazy wokists taking over UK government and establishments.

    Also an hour from Triggernometry Teacher Cancelled by Eton for Controversial Lecture Speaks Out


  4. StewGreen says:

    Via Belfield :The 2 Labour “Be Kind” female politicians

    #1 Charlotte Nichols
    Labour MP for Warrington North
    ratioed for a sneer at Prince Philip

    Campaigning suspended for today for the funeral of HRH The Duke of Edinburgh.
    Took the opportunity to head into town to see friends & pick up a few bits now non-essential retail @GoldenSquareUK
    is back.
    Even the Primark queue v quick & good social distancing being observed! Smiling face

    #2 Male St Helens Councillor Jyoti Wilkinson
    suspended for calling Prince Philip a “massive racist & bigot.”

    #3 A Labour Liverpool Councillor Sarah Morton
    suspended For Calling Prince Philip A ‘Fascist Piece Of Inbred Sh*t’

    That’s it ..no other baddies
    Oh hang on
    Councillor John Wiseman LABOUR Councillor and Unite the Union Chairman from Merseyside has been suspended after being banned indefinitely from teaching for forging student coursework to dupe exam boards.



    • StewGreen says:

      Belfield has a 12 min video about the BBC screwing up radio on the day they announced Prince Philips death
      a well as Saturday TV coverage.

      His other vid about a West Midlands DC and his wife offering threesomes for £150/hour
      Is a November 2020 story


  5. Deborah says:

    10pm news on Sunday night and the BBC are still going on about Greensill. David Cameron was wrong to go the direct route, but it didn’t work, which may suggest the restrictions on lobbying were known by the present ministers, particularly Rishi. The BBC used Rachel Reeves not answering questions on Marr this morning going on about Tory Sleeze.
    I still haven’t heard the BBC ask about Brown Blair or Nick Clegg lobbying.


  6. Guest Who says:

    Have BBC NA BS hired Jason Nguyen yet?


  7. ScottishCalvin says:

    Prince Philip was taken to the church on the back of a Land Rover. I wonder if they’ll have Prince Andrew buried in a 15 year old Escort?

    Doodle and thoughts


  8. JohnC says:

    Hooray ! – I’m back. I was beginning to think the site had been cancelled.
    Been watching creepy Joe on the BBC talking about Afghanistan:
    This is really getting beyond a joke now. The clip has clearly had the BBC edit treatment – presumably to pick the bits where he is the least senile. As opposed to Trump and the ‘Disinfectant’ video where they did the opposite. They had another video where he said it would not have been be his decision to withdraw in an embarassing schoolboy-level attempt to be spiteful at Trump.
    Joe can hardly string a sentence together without slurring now. He is focussing so hard on his autocue, it’s clear not a single word of it is written by him.
    Just how long can the MSM and the BBC ignore what is so plainly obvious to the rest of the world ?. They say Trump made the USA a laughing stock yet they remain silent while everyone watches a President who is clearly not fit for office embarass the whole country.
    All I can think of is what a huge issue they would have made of it for Trump. Their hypocrisy and double standards are what disgust me the most about the Left.


    • taffman says:

      The bias is has been blatant to us all for years, more so now since Trump and Biden have been in Power, yet our Tory MPs and government do nothing about it .


      • JohnC says:

        Yup – their main priority is to avoid being the target for the twitter mob and the BBC/Guardian fascists.
        It reminds me of Jimmy Saville : everyone knows but nobody dare stand up and say anything. When creepy Joe is removed, the flood gates will open and they will describe how clearly he went into decline from the day he was ‘elected’. It’s cynical agenda based hypocrisy.
        Standing up for right vs wrong are way down the priority list for everyone now. They will throw a policemen under a bus for shooting a 13 year old scumbag with a gun if it suits them.


    • G says:

      ‘He (Biden) allowed it to happen on his watch’. That’s what will be claimed when WW3 starts. Then they’ll magically unseat him. He’s a ‘set up’. But Harris? Please no!


  9. taffman says:

    “Channel crossings: Three boats with 42 migrants on board reach UK.”
    Lockdown , what lockdown . How many have come in so far this year since the promises of Boris and Priti to get tough.


  10. Guest Who says:

    He seems nice.


    I wonder if he has the same chart as Mishal?

    And is she related to Sadiq Khan in any way?


  11. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – that now you hear about it, now you don’t Global Warming has happened again

    The ‘breakaway’ European Super League has exercised Mishal this morning. It is strange how top flight footballers and their fans that can afford the huge ticket prices and an overnight stay abroad are not excoriated for creating unnecessary carbon emissions by the BBC.

    If I want to drive to see a patient in North Middlesex Hospital I have to pay a pollution charge. If I want to go by car to see granny a couple of hundred miles away, I meet with BBC disapproval for not travelling by train.

    The BBC have one rule for the wealthy & affluent but another one for everyone else: BBC Global Warming & Climate Change hyposcrisy: no mention when it comes to wealthy football.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Perhaps there should be a corruption super league – with special sections for ex PMs , peers , ministers , royals , MPs , civil servants , chief constables and of course BBC staff .

      But don’t worry – it might look like corruption – but ‘they followed the code ‘ they wrote for themselves …..

      Maybe do the thing the likes of ‘thoughtful ‘ ( who pops up here ) and pay them all a lot more so that they won’t need to be corrupt …..
      And then we all win a triple roll over …..

      As for the footy thing – Sky broadcast Phil Neville going full broadside against it for something like 4 minutes – from which I deduced that the Rights are going to Netflix or Prime ……
      …. who cares ? It’s only soccer ball ….

      Next it will be name changes for clubs based on sponsorship ….

      And what about changing the rules ? Make more ‘drinks breaks ‘ for advertising – shorter games – bigger goals – smaller pitches – have 2 balls – 6 corners ….wimmin and men teams ….

      And – as far as I can see – Scotland already has a ‘super league ‘ – Celtic v Rangers – rangers v Celtic (yawn )


    • Scroblene says:

      It takes quite a lot of electricity to run a modern train now, Up2, especially in 1st Class, where Beeboids spend a lot of time!

      So, how many wind farms does it take to get all those ‘teams’ of autocue-readers from Islington to Salford?

      And anyway, as most of the football players seem to come from most other countries, with hardly any from Great Britain, they can have as many super-dooper leagues as they want, because I still know rugger-all about fooboll…


      • Up2snuff says:

        Indeed, Scrobie, but the BBC think trains run on air like bicycles.

        Some of the Beeboids commute from Scotland to W1A! Laura ‘Part-time’, for example.


  12. Guest Who says:

    When Jon Met Kirstie

    Given all that is going on the the USA, what the BBC station chief is not going near is… very BBC.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Fascinating that sopel can’t see how anything about the response to the pandemic can be anything but negative – he ( BBC ) is so used to Project Fear – whether it be Brexit or Covid or President Trump – that they can no longer conceive of a story which is in anyway uplifting ( unless of course it’s wimmin / coloured folk/ coloured wimmin or ‘vulnerable groups’ ) …. but which sane people just think ‘tick box woke ‘ crap .


  13. Guest Who says:

    Now, which BBC editor is most likely to get excited by this combo


    • Guest Who says:

      I do note that this process might add to the time spent there.

      Thereby detracting from the commitment any person of topiary can expect from their hairdresser, which would be racist.

      Health dilemma.

      We have a home BP test machine. Strap, Velcro, off/on switch, digital display.

      Works well. Even without ‘training’.


      • Scroblene says:

        They’re good those, aren’t they, Guest!

        I keep ours in the attic, as my BP usually ends up through the roof anyway…

        …saves time!


    • andyjsnape says:

      While getting your hair cut, and your blood pressure and maybe the barber will do your shopping and maybe wash your car at the same time.

      I usually seek medical advice from the doctor


    • G.W.F. says:

      Guest Who
      Trained to test blood pressure. I thought that was covered by the instructions on the package containing a blood pressure kit?


  14. Fedup2 says:

    Bit of Monday good news – 600 000 vaccine doses Saturday
    – 500 000 second doses – 100 000 first doses …. but apparently the Reich EU is going to be catching up – perhaps 2023/4? …..


    • Northern Voter says:

      Bit late in replying but I seriously doubt the EU will ever catch up. Here in Northern France, Mrs Voter and myself, both over 70, she’s diabetic have been trying to get vaccinated for the past 6 weeks.
      Week one, go to local pharmacy, get put on list( only 10 vaccinations at a time, in a village of1200 people , most of whom are wrinklies, and some are crumblies). No joy.
      Week two, back to pharmacy onto a new list, still no joy.
      Week three, go to Doctors, get on his list, still no joy.
      Week four, go to Marie, get put on their list, told by the receptionist that there were no doses, but we were on the list, guess what still no joy.
      Week six, see some friends in a local supermarket, asked if we’d been done yet, said no. The friend gave us a website address, to book a vaccination. Later that afternoon she rang and said that the website was open, logged in and booked appointments for Mrs Voter and self in 5 minutes.

      This is typical of the EU, no semblance of organisation.


  15. Guest Who says:

    The left eating itself is always a worthy cookery programme.

    Curates Cannibalising is set to be a hit.

    Moaning Emole.


    Clergy speak out over ‘racism in Church of England’

    Complaints of racism within the Church of England have seen some ethnic minority staff being paid off to “buy their silence”, BBC Panorama has been told. Some of those who were compensated had to sign non-disclosure agreements, says Dr Elizabeth Henry, the Church’s former adviser on race relations.

    She retired last year after seven years in the job as she “felt frustrated by the lack of progress with issues of racism.” When Dr Henry spoke to Panorama she told of a “really shocking” incident from 2019 which she tells us was not deemed to be racist – she told of “a young black man who received a picture of a banana. But that banana had his head superimposed upon it – and underneath it said: Banana Man. That is a deeply offensive and deeply racist image”. She said he left, received very little compensation and was “forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement”. Panorama has spoken some members of the clergy about the racism they have suffered.

    Over the past 35 years, there have been 20 reports examining racism within the Church of England, between them making more than 160 recommendations. Last year, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, admitted that the Church had failed to tackle racism in its own ranks. While some changes have been made, there is still a lot more to do says Stephen Cottrell – the Archbishop of York, the second-most senior bishop in the Church. The Church of England is set to publish plans promising to address racism.

    — —

    Note: treat what the bbc has ‘been told’ as different to a fact.

    Speaking of which…


    Were there Brexit warnings about NI border checks?

    The recent street protests among loyalist communities in Northern Ireland have been sparked by a series of complex factors, and Brexit is part of the mix. “I recognise there are concerns about the implications around the Northern Ireland protocol,” Northern Ireland Secretary Brandon Lewis told MPs on 13 April.

    The protocol, part of the December 2019 deal that took the UK out of the EU, keeps Northern Ireland following many of the rules of the EU single market. That fact is what creates the checks on goods moving from Great Britain into Northern Ireland, and other border bureaucracy, which many loyalists bitterly oppose. But what was said about Northern Ireland in the run-up to the 2016 EU referendum, and how many of these issues were predicted at the time?

    The main campaign literature published by the Leave and Remain campaigns on a UK-wide basis in 2016 didn’t mention Northern Ireland at all. Leading figures on both sides made campaign visits to Northern Ireland, but its future status wasn’t a big part of the national conversation. It was only after the vote took place that more attention was paid to the fact that the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland was about to become the border between the UK and the EU.

    Read full analysis >

    Chris Morris
    BBC Reality Check Correspondent


    Classic BBC #questionasaheadline piece.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Guilty secret
      I listened to half hour of toady
      I noticed

      1 that if India is a direct health threat to the UK because of a new virus variety – there will be no restrictions – because of ‘cultural reasons ‘ – I suspect the pakis are in the background on this too

      2 the ‘press review ‘ is just a rebroadcast of lefty woke crap from various rags – I heard something about slavery ( yawn ) but my auto switch off recently planted in my ears switched on

      3 – thought for the day had ‘professor of Islamic studies …’
      Then came the off switch and back to streaming

      Maybe call it the ‘Islamic Broadcasting Company ‘ now and after it goes subscription only …
      The foreign imports must just laugh …


  16. Guest Who says:


    This is why editorial by omission is so pernicious.

    And why Laura K, Knob and bbc checking anything is a bad joke.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Although the ‘register of members interests ‘ is online it is difficult to trawl through – but I had a little took – and it appears to me that only a minority of MP declares ‘no outside interest ( income ) ‘…… some have property portfolios – some are doctors earning £600 for a shift …

      How MPs can represent their constituents as well as carrying on with external occupations is beyond me .

      On the recent ‘yes minister ‘ repeats people laughed at outgoing civil servants being put up for quangos and gongs .

      Blighty likes to pretend that it is not corrupt – when it is …. I predict no change …


      • Guest Who says:

        The bbc had a fave junior doctor whom was so overworked she could barely hold down her other jobs as mp and tv studio mould.

        But correct ideologies and diversity ticks, so all good.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Guest who
          That Labour doctor lists the hours of her shifts and income – which I reckoned at about £50 an hour from the NHS . I’m sure someone doing an arduous shift as a doctor can then do an arduous shift as an MP . … as well as the other ‘jobs ‘ of course …..


          • StewGreen says:

            I’m sure you are talking about the Labour doctor MP that gave the impression she was on the frontline
            but actually was manning the Covid patients relatives call line


      • Banania says:

        Parliament worked much better when being an MP was considered not as a career but as public service. Those who had professions exercised them. Similarly with local councils. It was much cheaper too.


  17. Guest Who says:

    In the spirit of balance, Vile has a point.

    That said, he might see the BBC taxi addiction dilemma’d, and Stuart Hughes forced to take Addison Lee.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Tempting fate …..


    • Old Goat says:

      Perhaps the cab will get him on the way back. One lives in hope.


    • StewGreen says:

      failed assassination attempt there
      but does Vine really have a camera on a high rod behind him on his bike ?
      surely that maybe a hazard, co if he were to fall over that could smack someone who is standing well back.


  18. infoquest says:

    NOT SEEN ON THE BBC (note Jon’s tweet above)

    The BMJ published a peer-reviewed article last week which shows how the overall death rate in England and Wales in 2020 compares with previous years. Worth reading.



  19. AsISeeIt says:

    And if you don’t want to see the football score – or pictures of young women – then you may as well look away for this entire press review.

    I’ve nothing to report today on the Royals – in the way that the Independent used to pride itself on its avoidance of royal stories. One of the founders remarked how the British press was “unduly besotted” with the Royal Family and that a newspaper could “manage without” stories about the monarchy. I google “Independent” and “Royal stories” today and the resuts come back flush with so-called “news” results. Hey-ho.

    Having been previously informed by our national press photographers how women had returned en masse to pubs, now this morning, judging by the pic on the frontpage of the Guardian, we note how the girls are set to return to our football stadia. Love on the terraces – it’s every young lad’s dream but it’s largely a fantasy.

    And of course, on the frontpage of the Daily Star, what with the weather warming somewhat, women are back on the beaches – in their skimpy cossies.

    Aside from the popular tabloids, who know exactly what their audience wants, the question one ponders about the mid-market and broadsheet titles is whether it is feminism that drives the increasing over-representation of women in traditionally male preserves on their pages – or is it the baser motivation that females are easier on the eye?

    Were the gloves to come off, and their biases unashamedly laid bare, would our print media editors prefer to push the radical feminist manifesto or run photo features with titles such as totty corner?

    One has to admire the sheer brassneck of the Star with its beach babes: ‘Hot, hot hot!‘ – and cringe at the Guardian’s flash of bare midriff on the terraces: ‘Fans return!‘ – only fans…? [there’s a gag for the social media internet savvy] or photogenic stooges and corporate photographers?

    ‘…but football splits on plans for European super league‘ – we might have guessed… the Gruan only takes an interest in sport when there’s some political issue brewing.

    The Guardian, never one to turn its nose up at european integration, doesn’t kick this new super league notion into touch – at least on its frontpage. Likewise the globalist corporate FT: ‘Breakaway goal. Clubs to join “super league”

    Whereas the rest of our press have instinctly blown the whistle on the idea, calling foul immediately, without any need for five minutes deliberation and reference to VAR.

    Fury as big six plot euro super league breakaway‘ (Express); ‘Disgraceful. Prem big 6 in Euro breakaway‘ (Mirror); ‘Fury at Prem big 6 Europe league’ (Sun)

    Following the principle that a Prime Minister has to have an opinion on everything and the precedent set by President Tony Blair that a party leader has to get down with the kids in the playground and support a football team: ‘Johnson cries foul over plan for football “super league“‘ (The Times) – I thought Boris was a rugger man?

    Frankly, I think the press forget football is a business, an entertainment business at that. I can’t get excited about the present greedy cartel and its mouthpieces getting upset about some newcomer greedy cartel trying to steal their product. If Boris had a care for English… perish the awful phrase coming up now… grass roots football – then he should bloodywell cancel lockdown and allow paying fans to watch this outdoor sport again. He’s contributed to making it a TV broadcast only activity.

    You want some light relief?

    Our favourite Luxembourgish politician Jean-Claude Juncker has an exclusive interview in the ‘i’ newspaper.

    Juncker helpfully does a dive bomb attack on a Tory soft target for this Left-leaning paper.

    Juncker: I should never have trusted Cameron

    Bad week for David Cameron gets worse as former EU chief accuses him of incompetence‘ – I guess Jean-Claude never heard of the profoundly eurosceptic Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn?

    “He told me not to interfere in the Brexit debate in the UK”‘ – sounds like sound advice to me. Dave got that one right and maybe ought to have told Obama to shut up?

    Juncker denies drinking problem: “I have sciatica. I still limp. And yet they say the guy is drunk again‘ – I’ll remember that excuse when I eventually get to book a table at a pub – that’s after the interminably long waiting list of ladettes nights out with their press photographers.


  20. andyjsnape says:

    A european super league.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56795811

    I thought the bbc told us of many occasions that if we left the EU things like this would be impossible


  21. Fedup2 says:

    The footy thing is just a welcome distraction from important stuff . But I recall – when the pandemic got going the broadcasters were trying to charge £15 a game to view … which lasted about 2 weeks before being dumped . I know sponsorship is a big source of income but if people didn’t watch a new league I wonder what would happen ?

    But at least Norwich are back up ( for a season )


    • Rich says:

      Not really going to affect the bBbc’s football coverage, or lack of, though is it? Although perhaps the new leagues’ intention of having a women’s equivalent has them panicking. Imagine the bBbc losing the rights to the one thing their new Football Focus host could actually be qualified to “educate” us on.

      I find it incredibly hypocritical of Sky, the FA, UEFA and FIFA to cry foul on moral grounds, as blatantly exploitative and corrupt as they can be, seriously accusing others of “being driven by greed”.

      The American owners driving this see these clubs as franchises, businesses only, they are now global not local brands. Flat-caps and rattles disappeared from the now missing terraces years ago anyway, replaced by policy and pound by family-friendly seating, women’s toilets and franchised fast-food vendors. In the US NBA and NFL teams not only change owners and names, they change city, moving to where there is a market. They physically follow the money. Lockdown has shown these owners it is viable for them to move the new markets via satellite. England is one of the only countries where fans travel in any great numbers to away games, in other countries and leagues supporters are more than happy to follow and support their teams in these games on television. Why would the Glazers at United care about filling Old Trafford with “local” fans every other week when they have millions of fans in the Far East and elsewhere who will pay to watch and buy their merchandise? Who do these fans want to watch Utd v Norwich, or Utd v Juventus?

      The Premier League kicked this all off, aided and abetted by Sky, and now that their cosy arrangements with the corrupt officials at the governing bodies are under threat they and their media mouthpieces are up in arms. No, doesn’t wash with me, they helped create this problem, if it actually is one, and the FA and the posturing Johnson and his ilk encouraged and allowed it. It’s too late now.

      As Fedup2 suggests, if the people don’t want it and don’t want to watch it and don’t want to pay for it, the proposed league, which doesn’t seem as drastic a proposition to me as we are being led to believe, will either have to change again or fail. I suppose it’s this idea the bBc find especially hard to comprehend.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Rich – as I suggested – I’m thinking sponsors with serious cash – apple – Netflix – prime – are at the back of the ‘plan’ – which will probably be dumped this time only to come back after the`euros / World Cup …..
        … it gives the bubble something to write about ….
        …….having been to some big grounds as an away supporter – many have no soul – old Trafford – Stamford bridge- – and a real disappointment in the pre covid time …. even anfield played a tape of their theme tune to get the Kop going …
        …..whereas go to palace or Leeds – wow -…


        • Rich says:


          I agree, hadn’t thought about them delaying it for a while, but yes they might well do. I grew up with football, I know how simple it really is and what it really means. I’ve watched the game, played it competitively at international level in my youth and have also coached kids. I’ve seen Utd win at the Camp Nou in ’99 and have got soaked on the sidelines as a Saturday morning sub.

          I simply find it impossible now to identify with modern players and the culture that has developed within the game at the highest level. It’s “Americanisation” – the useless stats, over-analysis, personality over performance, agenda-driven commentary and hysterical hyperbole, the blatant political activism – and it’s promotion of “urban culture” and the continued celebration of the ordinary and of style over substance has left me cold.

          I now honestly could take it or leave it.


          • Fedup2 says:

            I guess the owners are worried about ‘peak football ‘ – but it is a strange time to suggest such a radical break away – when the post covid ‘football environment ‘ is unknown –

            Although I suppose they’ll be assuming ‘business as usual ‘ with middle aged people with spare cash able to afford the season tickets whereas the teenagers will struggle to get a spare ticket …
            …. but I think the TV rights trump everything else and the owners are thinking ‘globally ‘. Ironic that the Germans will probably kill the idea because of their ‘co- op’ type ownership …..


          • Beltane says:

            ‘…the useless stats, over-analysis, personality over performance, agenda-driven commentary…..’

            Or, put another way, G.Linaker Esq.


  22. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – so, it was all about Brexit after all …

    This Greensill thing has taken a new turn with the news at 6 a.m. mentioning that Jean-Claude Druncker (who ignored his Doctor’s instructions to not drink any alcohol whatsoever while taking painkillers) regrets trusting David Cameron. Did the envelope not turn up Jean-Claude? Was there less in it than promised?

    Sir Keir Starmer has gone ‘cold’ on Brexit – finally accepting its finality. What better way to stir him up than to give him a whiff of smelling salts ‘Tory Sleaze’. That will bring him round.


  23. Demon says:

    I tend to avoid TV news as it is so unreliable, but when I catch it it tends to be Sky rather than the BBC. So, what I am going to say is my impression of Sky “News” but I assume the BBC is the same.

    I have not been following the Chauvin trial on television but did notice that Sky seemed to be showing every minute of the Prosecution case and repeating it all as the Gospel truth, then only weakly mentioning the Defence rebuttals. Once the Defence started it showed a bit of it on the news with the Prosecution rebuttals, but after Day 1 of the Defence side I have seen nothing.

    I am not sure what to make of the whole case when looking at the wider perspective on the net. It seems that both sides have good points to make but it is clear that he was full of drugs and that alone may have killed him. But my point is that Sky (and I assume all the other left-wing MSM) are desperately hoping for a conviction and try to minimise the facts that don’t suit their narrative.


    • G says:


      They all, for us principally the BBC, attempt to steer our thoughts toward their perspective. In reality, a hopeless exercise with so much more balanced opinion on the internet. But they clearly have not woken to that fact yet.


    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      That’s why the lefties will riot when he is acquitted.

      The portrayal of the case on the MSM is evil Nazi white cop deliberately killed a black man simply for being black. Open and shut case. Racist Nazi. End of story.

      Because they haven’t heard about the 3x fatal Fentanyl dose in his bloodstream, previous OD’s, drug dealer in his car, 98% oxygenated bloodstream at time of death, (these are probably more than enough to disprove ‘beyond reasonable doubt’) they will riot and smash things up because the system let a racist murderer ‘go free’.

      The media had deceitfully reported, and this is lapped up by self-hating, low-intelligence people, looking for a reason to rage against ‘Toaries’ ‘White Supremacy’ and ‘patriarchy’.

      Look to the situation in Scotland now, where biased reportage feeds a frenzy of anti English hate. The gullible, the young, the disenfranchised, all the disparate elements are quite willing to vote for the most corrupt, sleazy, useless set of misfits ever to govern a country. Their pathetic record of no achievement and multiple sex and corruption scandals makes absolutely no difference to these voters, such is their hate for the English. ‘Toaries’ is their trigger word for this.

      The reporting is so biased, that even amidst the Greensill/Cameron scandal, that’s small beer compared to the 1/2 Billion loan guarantees given to Greensill by the Scottish ‘Government’ during the course of four dinner meetings held off record.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The whole case is a travesty. Floyd’s lungs were full of fluid due to a fentanyl overdose. That is why he “couldn’t breathe”.

      To be charged with murder, you have to have the intention to kill someone. The police in this case called an ambulance out for Floyd, because, amazingly, they did not want him to die.

      Yes, he was restrained, but the autopsy showed his throat was unmarked. There was no intention to harm him, and he died because he took fentanyl.


    • StewGreen says:

      Viva Frei, says Tuesday should be the last day of arguments (then usually the jury return a verdict on Friday so they can go home)
      But the judge may rule a mistrial already
      #1 The prosecution hid the results of CO testing
      and then tried to use it in court
      The judge so far ruled that jury should discount it … (50 min video)

      #2 Jurors may have been corrupted by seeing black congressman Maxine Waters calling for riots if there is anything other than a murder conviction.

      Maxine Waters prejudges an ongoing trial and urges a crowd to “get more confrontational” if she doesn’t like the verdict.


      • StewGreen says:

        AltNewsMedia tweeted
        \\Can’t help thinking if this was a black man on trial and authorities expected mass looting and rioting
        from ‘white right wingers’
        the whole thing would be covered very differently //


  24. Old Goat says:

    How’s that old “climate emergency” going for the BBC? Not everyone is falling for it…



    • Up2snuff says:

      Since you ask, OG, I may have to rub my leeetle grey zells togezzer and come up with another TWatO Watch.


    • StewGreen says:

      “We are both scientists who can attest that the research literature does not support the claim of a climate emergency.
      Nor will there be one.” US edition

      \\Neither contemporary observations nor the geological record support computer-based claims that CO2 is the “control knob” for the earth’s climate.
      Warmings, similar to or larger than the current one, have been observed many times in the past few millennia when there has been negligible use of fossil fuels.
      A thousand years ago Greenland really was warmer than today and supported Norse farmers who grew crops such as barley, which cannot be grown there now because of the cold.


  25. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – the Beeb’s in a buzz about the footie breakaway

    TWatO spent an inordinate amount of time on this and gave me some good laughs. Someone asked – it was probably Sarah – “Isn’t this just like the setting up of the Premier League?” and the answer was “No, definitely not.” Funny thing but I recall the Premier League breakaway from the FA was all about 1. money, 2. TV rights, 3. money, 4. no particular reason but it seemed like a good idea at the time, and, 5. money.

    Footie is corrupt and a vehicle for tax evasion.

    Not unlike the Beeb, eh, Sarah? Remember your little spat with BBC bosses and your feeble reasoning – they made me do it?


  26. StewGreen says:

    Football : I see Gary Lineker, David Cameron, and Sky corp have released a joint statement
    … condemning the breakaway clubs for “their greed”.


  27. StewGreen says:

    Liam Scarlett death
    On Saturdays R4 3 minute bulletin
    said “Former Royal Ballet choreographer Liam Scarlett dies at 35”
    … OK that is the guy in a cloud over ballet student abuse : cleared, but sacked anyway.
    They didn’t clarify that until moments later.
    But is that news ? is it useful news ?
    35 year old men dying is unusual but pretty much happens everyday in the UK
    If the guy in charge of apprentices at a steelworks in Sheffield had died, would that be national news ?
    And can they really not tell us anything about the circumstances ?
    If they can’t give us more say cos of a police investigation, why put in a national short bulletin, surely put in the local news or arts prog.


  28. StewGreen says:

    ‘Countryfile : UK farmers need 50,000 workers
    and can only get them from the EU’

    UK government job website
    “There are 330 Agriculture, Fishing & Forestry Jobs in UK”

    Why is the industry only advertising 330 jobs in the whole of the UK ?
    In Lincolnshire there are only 10 agricultural jobs
    none of them pickers


  29. StewGreen says:

    Austin triple shooting by black ex-cop
    BREAKING: Authorities have captured 41-year-old Stephen Broderick near Manor after receiving a 911 call about a man walking along U.S. 290. He was taken into custody without incident.

    That’s about 18 hours after the shootings.


  30. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #2 – you sent someone all that way BBC, what about the Global Warming?

    The BBC are getting worried that they might not be able to get their Waitrose quinoa and artichokes delivered if the Corporation sends them for a stint working in Aberdeen. They are weeping into their hankies over the closure of the John Lewis store in said town. BBC don’t understand that is the result of their promotion of the fake Global Warming, Climate Change and Climate Emergency is going to damage High Streets and town and city centres across the UK.

    Couple it to politicians (local and national) greed for taxes and inevitably folk – in an increasingly computer & smartphone literate society – are going to stay in the comfort of their own increasingly expensive homes and shop on-line for the best bargains going. Not everyone has a BBC size guaranteed income.

    Beeb correspondent sent to Aberdeen (from I assume in Scotland, not London or Salford, but nevertheless using a fair wodge of fossil fuels) says without any irony whatsoever “This town used to benefit from the oil industry but increasingly those oil companies are turning to renewables.”


  31. StewGreen says:

    Tonight’s TV
    7:35pm Panorama seems to be a deliberate spoiler for the Church of England’s racism report to be released later this week

    8:30pm Fawlty Towers : The Germans episode

    9pm Grete doco ep2

    10pm BBC4 Leading up to Stephen Lawrence day
    each day will have the SL doco

    9pm Channel4 doco film about how in 1977 a domestic chimp went wild at puberty and had to be returned to the wild and the student who ended up staying for years with her.


  32. StewGreen says:

    4:30 R4 Monday religion panel prog
    “there is concern about the reluctance of people from black and minority ethnic communities to take the vaccine.
    Ernie Rea asks why this is the case.”
    .. Bang a drum


    • Fedup2 says:

      Is that an’ ecumenical matter ‘?

      Near Eire asks why this is the case …


  33. StewGreen says:

    R4 8:30pm The work of w*nk therapists for injured soldiers in the Israeli military.
    “The only programme of this type in the world”

    9pm Justin Rowlatt will say Fossil fuels bad, to line up next weeks episode where he will say magic renewables are the future.


    • StewGreen says:

      Oh Rowlatt’s prog promoting renewables is tomorrow
      cos tonight’s prog is the repeat edition of last Tuesday’s


  34. StewGreen says:

    Jul 20, 2019
    Labour MP and former TV star Gloria de Piero QUITS amid ‘utterly offensive’ abuse from hard-Left
    – as she accuses Corbyn’s party of ‘lacking tolerance of different viewpoints’

    So at the election another MP replaced her.
    Now today she joined GBnews


    • StewGreen says:

      Here’s the stream that you can wind back , he says it’s a 48hour live show
      As ever he’s good hearted, but can be conspiracy theorist
      which gives Big Tech to throw him off Twitter etc.
      He just said “I’m suing Dominion for $1.6bn”
      There’s not a chance he’ll get that.
      However he does have a point they can sue Lindell for defamation for what he said, but thy can’t sue his separate My Pillow business and harm the rights of the 2,500 employees, that is an abuse of process.


      • StewGreen says:

        Libs are sneering at Lindell saying “See you new social media platform doesn’t work”
        He counters “we are under massive cyber attack.”
        They said their case is Dominion cannot sue him for defamation cos he was speaking about them running the election for the government, and the government is specifically not allowed to suppress criticism of their work.


  35. Old Goat says:

    Starmer kicked out of Pub!!


  36. StewGreen says:

    Jewish News
    Anger at BBC joke saying Israel ‘ignores the Arab population’ on vaccines.
    Complaint lodged following comment read out by actor David Tennant on popular sketch show, Have I Got a Bit More News For You.



    • Fedup2 says:

      Nice non apology by the BBC – “The comments were satirical and in keeping with audience expectations of this well-established topical entertainment show.”

      Well that’s okay then …..is it one of those woke hate crimes ? Or a public order crime ?


  37. Fedup2 says:

    India is going on the ‘red list ‘…. from Friday … how does that work please ? Why is it not midnight tonight ? If someone could explain the reason – and assure me more corruption isn’t involved – I’d appreciate it … has that lex Luther bloke being giving out bungs again ….


    • BRISSLES says:

      News report that Balham (in London) is seeing high incidences of the Indian variant. Its not rocket science that the BAME community are not great in taking up the vaccine, so are we the only ones who are not surprised that these black/asian areas are petri pits of infection ?


  38. Emmanuel Goldstein says:



  39. Fedup2 says:

    BBC carrying the Chauvin trial live on its news channel – from a foreign country – thousands of miles away . They can’t find a ‘police brutality killing ‘ in the UK so the Marxists import one ….


  40. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    4 covid deaths today (not including Goliath)


    • StewGreen says:

      When you replot deaths on actual day of death Its’s about 20/day
      Low figures comes from data being delayed
      It is falling but quite slowly
      3,000 new positives today ..should be much lower really.


  41. Guest Who says:

    Thanks to a reminder from CAB on ITBB, I decided to review the history of Edward Bernays, and on wiki came across this, which seems oddly familiar a technique still…

    Third parties

    Bernays argued that the covert use of third parties was morally legitimate because those parties were morally autonomous actors.
    “If you can influence the leaders, either with or without their conscious cooperation, you automatically influence the group which they sway”, he said. In order to promote sales of bacon, for example, he conducted research and found that the American public ate very light breakfast of coffee, maybe a roll and orange juice. He went to his physician and found that a heavy breakfast was sounder from the standpoint of health than a light breakfast because the body loses energy during the night and needs it during the day. He asked the physician if he would be willing, at no cost, to write to 5,000 physicians and ask them whether their judgment was the same as his—confirming his judgment. About 4,500 answered back, all concurring that a more significant breakfast was better for the health of the American people than a light breakfast. He arranged for this finding to be published in newspapers throughout the country with headlines like ‘4,500 physicians urge bigger breakfast’ while other articles stated that bacon and eggs should be a central part of breakfast and, as a result of these actions, the sale of bacon went up.”


  42. G.W.F. says:

    I am watching the live streaming of the Floyd George trial. My guess is that the jury will deliver a guilty verdict on political grounds, in the hope that the communities of colour and white will be unified without riots.
    My view based on evidence produced is that guilt has not been proven beyond reasonable doubt.
    However, the procedure has aroused my curiosity. First, the judge provides his guidelines to the jury, then the prosecution gives their closing argument, then the defence provides their closing arguments, then, finally, the prosecution return to rebut the defence’s closing arguments and the jury are sent out to deliberate.
    Two bites of the cherry strikes my mind.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I guess it depends of the quality of the Jury …. but I hope they take a while to return a verdict so that accusations of prejudice can’t be levelled on that count .

      Let’s face it – whatever the outcome – there will be disappointment – the danger here – will be the applying of UK standards to American ones – which – if you see some of the thousands ? of you tube videos – involve the gun …. I came across them when I wanted to see the 13 year old Mexican boy dump his gun before being shot … live by it die by it ..


    • Thoughtful says:

      The Jurors are under intense intimidation from Antifa and other far Left groups who are effectively at war with the US adminstration.

      They fear Doxxing on the internet and that their homes businesses, and their very persons will be attacked if they do not return the correct verdict.

      Even the citiescouncillors are terrified of Antifa with one openly stating she voted to remove the city manager because she would have property and herself physically attacked and possibly killed.

      The judge in this case should have declared a mistrial after the prosecution brought up new evidence on the last day in defiance of the judges instructions, the defence did not know what this evidence was and had no chance to cross examine the witness on it. This would probably form the basis of an appeal.

      Make no mistake though, the far left are at war with America and idiots like Kamala Harris are aiding and abetting them, by promoting appeals to pay the bail of those criminals arrested for rioting and democrat representative from California Maxine Waters tells Minnesota BLM protesters ‘to get more confrontational’ one day after violent anti-police clashes erupted across US.

      Funny how it was seen as ‘incitement’ by the media when Trump did it, but it’s not when they do it.



    • Dobyns says:

      GWF, the rebuttal is intended to allow the prosecution to challenge, rebuke, remedy any improper arguments by the defence


  43. Guest Who says:

    Worth getting Marianna to check?

    The BBC, and especially Jez, saying something means the square root of F-all.


  44. Guest Who says:

    So Sleepy Presidenting stuff is like BBc editorial tweets?


  45. Fedup2 says:

    So it didn’t (not)elect a president – it was a coup by an ‘administration ‘ – maybe call it a bubble or a swamp …

    ‘So what you’re really saying is …”


  46. Thoughtful says:

    Well it’s nice to see the site back up, but no explanation as to what has happened?

    Well since it’s been down my explorations as to what has been going on in Minneapolis would have led to me writing several pieces, however I shall try to keep it reasonably brief.

    The media appears to be attempting to report one side of the stories unfolding in order to be able to claim some kind os ‘structural racism’ in the USA. Riots there will inevitably lead to riots here, not that the cowardly useless incompetent Tories will be doing anything in preperation for that.

    The Problem in the Chauvin trial is intimidation of Jurors by Left wing terrorists.

    Here is an example: https://news.sky.com/story/pigs-head-left-outside-former-home-of-expert-barry-brodd-who-testified-in-derek-chauvins-defence-12280076

    Almost certainly Antifa attacking the expert witness who testified on behalf og Derek Chauvin and publicised because they want to get the message through to the Jurors that the same or worse will have to them if they return the ‘wrong’ verdict.

    In salt lake city someone poured red paint on a sculpture of hands a ‘serve and protect’ monument:


    In Santa Rosa another sculpture of a hand was covered in red paint and a sign reading “oink oink” left on it.

    All this is intended to intimidate the Jurors and is receiving publicity to that end.

    In the Daunte Wright Killing the City Manager who happens to be Black, was removed after a vote by the council, one of the councillors remarked the manager had her utmost respect and confidence, but she had voted for his removal because she feared for her property being damaged and her life put in danger.

    Again this is unlikely to be the general Black populace heading to shoe store to loot a new pair of trainers, it is the far Left intimidating people in a way similar to the methods used by the Nazis during their rise to power.

    In the Daunte Wright case the media yet again portrayed him as some kind of decent innocent Black man wrongly stopped and then shot, he was nothing of the kind.

    Wright had an Aggravated Felony indictment which was an attempted armed robbery where he and an accomplice had held a gun to womans head and demanded a lot of money. It was only when she made a lot of noise that they ran away.

    Wright was under 21 he shouldn’t be owning a hand gun, and yet there is a video of him with not one but two, and whilst smoking drugs and drinking spirits he is shown dancing and pointing the guns at the camera to Drill Rap.

    That’s not the story the media wants you to hear because it wants another innocent poster boy it can claim was shot because of their favourite meaningless word – racism.


  47. Guest Who says:

    Sounds like a pol only the race-inflaming media could love.


    • Guest Who says:

      Seems Mad Max has not helped the prosecution at all.

      So much pent up hate does something odd to these women.

      Joy Behar is another one who clearly has run out of mirrors in the attic.


  48. Thoughtful says:

    A while ago I predicted that the government were deliberately destroying the pubs in Britain. That attack appears to have gone to the ultimate stage during lockdown.

    I also predicted that after the pub trade had been effectively destroyed, the next move would be to attack supermarket sales, and here it is right on cue.