563 Responses to Midweek Thread 26 May 2021

  1. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – what a difference a year makes

    This time last year, the BBC – along with most of the MSM – were casting doubts on the veracity of Dominic Cummings’s reasons for his trip back to stay in a cottage on his parent’s farm. He, like his boss the Prime Minister, was ‘a stranger to the truth’.

    Now, every word from Dominic Cummings’s mouth is gold plated, accepted as gospel, totally true. In a Parliamentary report, a BBC Correspondent (may have been Norman Smith) is almost honest enough to say the BBC are changing their view through 180°, doing a ‘volte face’, as my American friends say ‘popping a U-ey’ and changing their view on Cummings’s veracity.

    But they couldn’t really own up to that. And did not.

    Dishonest, BBC?


  2. AsISeeIt says:

    Forget the forensic one with the personality bypass, and the new LibDem I’ve honestly already forgotten, the opposition appears at last to have found their hero. And contrary to what Tina Turner insisted “We don’t need another hero… All we want is life beyond the Thunderdome” it seems the opposition do indeed long for a hero with a passion. I mean, their longing is passionate.

    Who would have guessed our libreal media would one day hang on the baldie Brexit boffin’s every beef, bitch and bad mouthing? Seems his eccentric brand of white board scribblings and off-the-cuff brainstorming suddenly have a whole new class of fans.

    BLM didn’t play so well over here as it did across the pond. Corbyn’s magic money tree has been happily transplated into Rishi’s back yard. And for all the project fear we the people never gave up on our Brexit. So they go to plan B… The headlines were already written before Cummings took his seat and the live feed was connected to the edit suite: ‘“Tens of thousands of people died who didn’t need to die”‘ (‘i’) Yep, that’ll be the money shot quote. The Guardian has had that one type set from the get go – as the old hot lead men might have put it. ‘Chaos and complacency at 10 Downing Street revealed in seven hours of devastating evidence by Prime Minister’s former aide‘ (‘i’)

    The ‘i’ newspaper tempted to take the piss, we note, with their frontpage teaser for a relationships feature: ‘How to break up well

    The highlight for this observer was Dom’s considered and analytic summary of Carrie Symonds as quoted in the Times: ‘“Desperate to get rid of me”‘ – I’m sure the press corps identified with that. And: ‘”Crackers“‘ – Princess Nut Nut is crackers? What’s with all the savories? All we need now is for BBC man Gary Lineker to post a Twitter selfie with a pack of crisps and we’ll have the full salted buffet.

    I’m reminded of that old classic Two Ronnies’s sketch where Ronnie Barker is the insolent butler waiting on table at the stately home – it went something along the lines of – “You’re crackers, me lord. You’re nuts me lady

    Perhaps in a new order where politicians all think alike then the broadcasters and journos really are the only feasible opposition?

    The BBC seems to think so: ‘The BBC visits the colleagues of the arrested journalist, Roman Protesevich’ – he’s the Belarus chap who’s putting a rather pointed complaint into Ryanair.

    BBC: ‘Belarus plane: Lukashenko hits back at condemnation of journalist’s arrest

    Enough already, BBC, we get the point. Journos = good, President = bad.

    In serious news: ‘More woe for high street M&S shuts stores after £200m loss‘ (Express)

    The world’s biggest dairy exporter has forecast that prices could hit a record over the next year‘ (FT)

    They call it the dismal science but not all economic news is worrying, or at least not for all concerned: ‘Two £1bn deals bouy pharma sector. Britain’s healthcare sector is buzzing with activity’ (FT)


    • Up2snuff says:

      AISI: ” And: ‘”Crackers“‘ – Princess Nut Nut is crackers? What’s with all the savories? All we need now is for BBC man Gary Lineker to post a Twitter selfie with a pack of crisps and we’ll have the full salted buffet.”

      Brilliant, absolutely brilliant!


      • Scroblene says:

        “All we need now is for BBC man Gary Lineker to post a Twitter selfie with a pack of crisps and we’ll have the full salted buffet”.

        Ha ha ha, Up!

        I was just in Waitrose, where they have several shelves full of Walkers’ dross!

        So it stayed there, untouched of course – as I tell anyone who’s nearby!

        Lineker = Waitrose = John Lewis = BBBC = MPs = disinterest = zilch from the Scroblene household!

        Job done!


  3. Guest Who says:

    The BBC Moaning Emole is… very BBC.

    Let’s just say that on matters Covid handling they have managed to ‘report’ from the USA in an almost diametrically opposite way to the U.K.


    • Guest Who says:

      Now imagine Lurch on anything from his RT list of American media on anything from those he shares their impartial loathing of.


  4. Fedup2 says:

    Taffman – has Cygnus been published? They slapped ‘ secret’ on it upto now . I was assuming a sanitised version would be published for the Public Inquiry / whitewash in 2024…


  5. Fedup2 says:

    I caught the early news about NHS crisis – 28 million visits to GPs in March .

    Thats either one very sick person or half the UK population has thrown a sickie….

    28 million ?


  6. Guest Who says:

    To misparaphrase Golda, my concerns on the BBC currently outweigh those I have on the woeful state of #politicsoftheleastbad governance.

    Let’s just say #CCBGB


  7. Guest Who says:

    Samira gets more traction.


  8. Guest Who says:

    What… were the odds?

    Luckily all proven impartial, trusted, transparent professionals.

    According to the BBC.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Same arse – different cheek.
      Andrew Neil needs his BBC pension!


  9. MarkyMark says:

    Man loses job.
    Man gets to complain about losing job to everyone.
    Man decides which evidence you get to see.
    Man is rich and does not worry about money – it’s just a game.
    Man wanted Brexit to stop discussion on immigration.

    At the Ogilvy Nudgestock Conference in 2017, Dominic Cummings gave a presentation on how ‘Leave’ won the referendum.


  10. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Yesterday I asked if anyone knew the number of tests taken each day to give us the 2,000 or so positives.
    Deborah kindly put me onto a website (covid daily summary) which gives the number of tests as around 780,000 per day.

    This is less than 0.3% positives.
    I think some positives are multi tested which will increase the number of positives.

    This gives us some idea of the scale of covid here in the UK.


    • Eddy Booth says:

      How come every test centre I see is virtualy empty ..


      • Guest Who says:

        We arrived early having been asked to attend due to a test my wife had (she is a teacher).

        Around eight G4S folk in hi-viz sitting around.

        They got quite excited to see us.

        Ironically, we then had to go in sequence.


    • tarien says:

      PCR Test has led to thousdands of false/positives-PCR testing should not be used to ascertain a degree of the Covid virus. Governments worldwide had no option but to use the PCR test-what else could they do as they knew full well from the scientific information available that the PCT test was not fit for the purpose. A real mess up.


  11. vonrecht says:

    I notice on TOADY that the Biden ‘administration’ has now admitted that the virus may not have originated from a ‘wet-market’ in Wuhan, but from a Wuhan lab. WHETHER THIS WAS ACCIDENTAL OR A DELIBERATE leak from the lab (there are several in Wuhan, some connected to the CPLA.) is not something the BBC tells us. Nor does it mention the involvement of one Dr Fauci, or whether there were any ‘gain of function’ experiments, which ‘weaponised’ the virus.
    To say that the BBC have been sluggish on this is an understatement. Downright negligent is more like it. But, of course, there is the Cummings story to go after, on behalf of ‘Labour’. Big hopes at beeb, no doubt, that this will finally be the breakthrough Surkeer the Kneeler, requires.
    Various US sites and publications e.g. Raheem Kassam’s ‘National Pulse’ and D Beattie’s ‘Revolver’ have been on to this for about a year. Not to mention Bannon’s ‘War Room Pandemic’. But the real origin of the virus has been hushed up by the MSM, just as what really happened in the US on Nov 3rd last (Biden most likely lost) has been hushed up.
    Both of these stories are emerging into the light. The BBC will not only be VERY LATE in starting off on THE TELLING these truths, THEY WILL OBVIOUSLY FOLLOW THE NARRATIVE. SO PREPARE FOR MUCH OBFUSCATION!


    • Eddy Booth says:

      Biden loves the Chinese
      So naturally he’d rather peddle the conspiracy theory the Chinese are geniuses that can create or manipulate viruses in their laboratories, rather than the embarrassing truth that it was down to thier filthy and retarted eating habits.


      • vonrecht says:

        Eddy- I’m not so sure. This “conspiracy theory” is far more credible than the ‘filthy’ eating habits theory. Anyway, it’s NOT Biden peddling the idea the Chinese can manipulate viruses, although he does love the Chinese (source of income). Do a little research…
        And do distinguish between the Chinese and the Chinese Communist Party and Chinese People’s Liberation Army.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Samantha Cameron: Chinese factories can be better than British ‘sweat shops’
      Cameron said her fashion label Cefinn is manufactured in China because British factories failed the audit

      Anita Singh,
      26 June 2020 • 7:27pm



  12. MarkyMark says:

    BBC remove it … then congratulate themselves on adding it! HA HA HA!

    BBC Proms to welcome back audiences – and Rule, Britannia!
    By Mark Savage
    BBC music reporter

    Published8 hours ago



  13. MarkyMark says:

    HA HA HA!

    “The talented Kanneh-Mason family receive their very own Prom in August”




    • taffman says:

      Will they be playing Rule Britannia ?


    • Guest Who says:

      Palestinian (a country) flags on all the seats?


    • tarien says:

      They are very clever musicians, however if gaining sympathy for any black movement is what this is all about, I fear it will not work-These islands off the north coast of Europe were populated by people whose skin eventually became white living in a much colder climate that those whose skin is coloured/black living as they have done in much hotter climates. I do not wish to feel a minority in the country of my birth and of my ancesters-however why do people of my white colour feel it so necessary to alter things that should not be aletered.


    • Guest Who says:

      In the BBc world of ‘news’ vs not news, it seems a young man who played a drummer in a movie a long time ago has sadly died in a car accident in America.

      Schedules have been cleared.


    • Londoner says:

      Surely black people playing western classical music is also cultural appropriation.


  14. MarkyMark says:

    1963 … “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by their character.”

    2021 … “BLM site removes page on ‘nuclear family structure’ amid NFL vet’s criticism”


  15. taffman says:

    “Batley school protests: Teacher allowed back in Prophet Muhammad image row”
    “The school said it would offer more guidance and training for staff.”

    Training ? or “Re-Educating” ?
    Where are the normally vociferous Teaching Unions on this ?


    • MarkyMark says:

      Many societies throughout history have practised slavery, and Muslim societies were no exception.

      It’s thought that as many people were enslaved in the Eastern slave trade as in the Atlantic slave trade.

      The majority of traditional sources state that Aisha was betrothed to Muhammad at the age of six or seven, but she stayed in her parents’ home until the age of nine, or ten according to Ibn Hisham, when the marriage was consummated with Muhammad, then 53, in Medina.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Late missionary nurse friend of mine who worked in Kenya used to relate history of plundering of East Africa by Arabs sailing their dhows out of the Gulfs into the Arabian Sea and down the Indian Ocean. This would be the history taught in Kenyan schools at the time 1960s-1980s.


    • JamesArthur says:

      I heard that Taffman…not a single word of support for teacher ,not a single word saying what he did was ok, not a single word of condemnation of muslim death threats….but loads about sorry for offence, guidance etc..basically it wont hapoen again..they will never show fuckw*t prophet images again…so who won? Not freedom of speech, not British values and not education…


  16. Guest Who says:

    This chamber has parroted every BBC obsession faithfully… Brexit, Climate, race….


    No wonder they are a laughing stock too.


  17. taffman says:

    When will Al Beeb stand for Great Britain and attack “wokeness” for its utter absurdity ?
    After all, the people of Great Britain pay for Al Beeb’s very existence.


  18. Tabs says:

    North Yorkshire Police find nine people in uninsured car

    “people”! The location of “North Yorkshire” is BBC code for Bradford.


    • MarkyMark says:

      “Despite two doors not opening on the hatchback, there were five passengers on the back seat and two women in the boot.”


    • Guest Who says:

      At least they were not rear ending folk at roundabouts in Brum.


    • Sluff says:

      They were amazed by all the space.
      You can get at least 12 in a Tuk-tuk in Islamabad.


  19. Eddy Booth says:

    Romanians who work in the factories near Malton by the looks of it.
    Encourage cheap labour to expensive UK, then act surprised when they dangerously cram into cars and accommodation to save money


    • taffman says:

      Eddy Booth
      Lots more coming this way across the English Channel thanks to our Home Secretary, The French Navy, Border Farce, the RNLI and fair weather.
      Next we will have the liberal lefties shouting that there is a “housing shortage !” while the Greens will cry to save the Greenfield areas from new planning rules .
      We need a government that looks after the people of Great Britain, not the rest of the world and its extended families .


    • MarkyMark says:

      In 2015 and 2019, the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) in Wuhan (China) – where the COVID-19 virus is reported to have originated – received grants from the European Union.

      EUR 73 375 were granted in 2015 and EUR 88 436 in 2019.

      1. Can the Commission comment on the context in which the WIV received these grants?

      2. Has a European Union delegation visited this institute in the past five years?

      3. How did the EU monitor whether the recipient of the grants spent the money effectively?


  20. vlad says:

    Well, well, well, it seems Trump was right all along to at least question whether the China virus might have originated in a lab.

    How the BBC and the rest of the msm mocked him at the time: the fool, the racist, the conspiracy theorist!

    Now the BBC are pleased to announce their darling Biden is ordering an investigation into its origin. But there’s little mention that one of Beijing Biden’s first acts was to shut down an earlier investigation launched by Trump – or that Sleazy Joe is only investigating the theory now because of mounting pressure.


    Footnote to the sorry saga: Facebook is to lift their ban on posts about a possible lab origin. How very nice of them, but what the hell right did they have to ban such discussion in the first place?



  21. vonrecht says:

    Britain is in a very similar position that which it was in during the Thirties. The only differences are that, in addition to external threats, there are now lots of ‘Nazis’ (to stick to the parallel) within. Perhaps two others: the US is unlikely to be in a position to help; on the contrary, Nigel is in the US, revealing how their open Southern border is allowing thousands of ‘migrants’ to enter the States illegally every day.
    That will mean he is not here to draw attention to the ‘little boats’ that will be arriving daily on British coasts. With the connivance of the Border Farce and sympathetic clucking (if at all) from the BBC.
    And no sign of a Winston Churchill, this time around. Are we really in much greater peril than in the Thirties, while the orchestra (see above) plays happily away?


    • MarkyMark says:

      Farage follows the investment funds.


      • vonrecht says:

        Very true. I suppose he has to earn a living. But he was still the only key player filming on the beaches. (Do I hesitate to use the word ‘invasion’?) Nigel is now in the States, a source of income -quite likely, but also courageous work on the dangerous US Southern border. Defending the concept and practice of ‘National Sovereignty’ is his game, but that won’t pay his bills.
        The globalists/NWO/ Davos lot certainly won’t be either.
        The BBC would be, if they were honest brokers, who wanted to report REAL NEWS rather than NARRATIVE. But alas, we can think of a dozen reasons they would put up as to why they couldn’t possibly use (and pay for) reports by Nigel. They would rather use the Bashirs of this world. Or Narrative pursuers like Evan Davis, Carolyn Quinn, and Amol Rajan


        • MarkyMark says:

          Maybe Farage is distancing himself after backing Blair for Vaccine government leader.


  22. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – yer ‘avin a larff, mate
    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – ditto

    I was greeted on the 6 a.m. News with an extremely chuckleworthy item: one of the next fives years is likely to see global temperatures increase by 1.5°C. Yeaher, roigghht, I hear the Norfolk sceptic in my head say. The WMO have chosen to tell us in the UK – after a long spell of cold – that Global Warming is an ever present threat. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57261670

    I quote David Shukman: “A major study says by 2025 there’s a 40% chance of at least one year being 1.5C hotter than the pre-industrial level.

    That’s the lower of two temperature limits set by the Paris Agreement on climate change.

    The conclusion comes in a report published by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).

    The analysis is based on modelling by the UK Met Office and climate researchers in 10 countries including the US and China.

    In the last decade, it was estimated that the chance of any one year reaching the 1.5C threshold was only 20%.”

    Note that last para of Shukman’s and ask yourself is a BBC Editor telling a lie? In the last decade, the BBC have been telling us that we would definitely all be frying at the start of the decade, because they had been telling us for each of the previous ten years that we would all be frying and dried to a shrivel by 2010.

    But Shukman gets worse: “This new assessment puts that risk at 40%.”. That is not what the newsreader said. They were rather more definite than that.

    You cannot trust the BBC on Politics. You cannot trust the BBC on Global Warming.


  23. tomo says:

    I read claims that the PM’s girlfriend has her own office & staff without having been elected or properly appointed to office.

    Wonder why the BBC aren’t on that like a rash – is there a bust of Roger Harrabin on Carrie’s mantlepiece?


    • Beltane says:

      Probably right tomo, but her real favourite will be Chris Packham, and that should be of even greater concern.


    • Banania says:

      Didn’t Mrs Cameron have a personal shopper paid for by us?


  24. digg says:

    The BBC are loving the Cummings side-show mainly because they hope it will take the heat off their own scandal.


  25. MarkyMark says:

    “On Friday, If David Cameron wants to get 60 people together and blame them” (oh my aching sides)

    Dominic Cummings speech at IPPR – The Hollow Men (2014)

    The former adviser to Michael Gove and now Special Adviser to the Prime Minister discussed his experiences at the Department for Education, his view of how Westminster and Whitehall need to change, and a frank assessment of Team Cameron – its priorities, personalities and dysfunction


  26. MarkyMark says:

    “So what did Dominic Cummings learn, he learned that Carrie had more power over Boris than he did. I wonder how that played in his hollow man view. Back to the black board Dominic.” – Comment


  27. MarkyMark says:

    Other highlights from the 2021 programme include:

    A celebration of The Golden Age of Broadway with the BBC Concert Orchestra performing hits from the musicals (31 July)
    The Aurora Orchestra playing Igor Stravinsky’s 1945 suite from
    The Firebird from memory (11 August)

    An evening of music from across Africa with boundary-crossing cellist Abel Selaocoe (15 August)

    The Chineke! Orchestra celebrating the work of black composers, including Samuel Coleridge-Taylor, Fela Sowande and Florence Price (24 August)

    All seven of the Kanneh-Mason siblings performing Camille Saint-Saëns’s much-loved suite The Carnival of the Animals, which gets a “fresh update” with new poems and narration from former Children’s Laureate Michael Morpurgo (29 August)

    The Glyndebourne Festival Opera playing Wagner’s Tristan and Isolde (31 August)



  28. MarkyMark says:

    The Manchester Arena suicide bomber was rescued by the Royal Navy from the civil war in Libya three years before he killed 22 people at a pop concert, it has emerged.

    Salman Abedi was 19 when he boarded the HMS Enterprise in Tripoli in August 2014 with his younger brother Hashem and more than 100 other British citizens.

    It is understood Abedi’s name was on a list of stranded citizens handed to the crew in charge of the evacuation. The vessel took them to Malta where they caught a flight back to the UK.



    • JohnC says:

      The idiot Left think that if we help these people, they will be our friends. They have zero experience of the real world – particularly the most vocal and arrogant of all : the students and twitter mob.
      Anyone who has spent time in developing countries knows that kindness is treated as a weakness and is exploited. For Muslims, we will always be infidels no matter how much we give them.
      Just try to imagine a world where the situation was reversed and we were depending on them to save us from our own barbarity and corruption. They would do to us what they want to do to Israel.


  29. MarkyMark says:

    Rising patient numbers threaten to overwhelm GPs
    By Nick Triggle
    Health correspondent

    Published10 hours ago



    • JamesArthur says:

      I work in healthcare and am fed up with all this crap about GPs being stressed, overworked throughout pandemic and now threaten to be overwhelmed .I am sure some do work hard…but look at the stats..the percent working part time is huge in my area 85 % on 3 days…average salary 70k….stop bloody moaning…


  30. MarkyMark says:

    “In general, West Minister and Whitehall are dominated by arts graduates with very poor quantitive skills, little to no understanding of technological issues, little or no experience of successful organisations or responsibility for big organisations. To think of the scale mismatch most MPs haven’t been involved managing a 100 people then are put in charge of managing 10K people. ” – Dominic Cummings 2014


  31. MarkyMark says:

    Samantha Cameron: Chinese factories can be better than British ‘sweat shops’

    Cameron said her fashion label Cefinn is manufactured in China because British factories failed the audit

    26 June 2020 • 7:27pm




    • JohnC says:

      After we learnt from the COVID hotspots where these factories are, who they are full of and the ethics of the people who run them, I would use China as well.


  32. Guest Who says:


    Who has the BBC, here, not blocked, or banned when it suited?


    • MarkyMark says:

      2017 … Pakistan: man sentenced to death for blasphemy on Facebook
      Taimoor Raza was found guilty of insulting the prophet Muhammad during an argument on social media with a counter-terrorism official



      • LynetteO says:

        The BBC seems to have missed this major news story . At the very least it should have been headline news .

        The Head of the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog confirmed that Iran is enriching uranium to levels that only countries seeking to make atomic weapons reach, He added that Tehran’s nuclear program can no longer be dialed back to where it stood six years ago.

        “A country enriching at 60 percent is a very serious thing — only countries making bombs are reaching this level,” International Atomic Energy Agency chief Rafael Grossi said, adding that “60 percent is almost weapons-grade, commercial enrichment is two, three [percent].”

        The head of the UN watchdog expressed skepticism about whether a return to the 2015 nuclear agreement with the Islamic Republic would stop this development. “The Iranian program has grown, become more sophisticated, so the linear return to 2015 is no longer possible,” Grossi noted.

        The bombshell remarks came after world powers resumed talks with Iran to save the 2015 deal that put limitations on Tehran’s nuclear program in return for sanctions relief. In 2018, the US pulled out of the pact and reimposed crippling penalties, after which the Islamic Republic began to renege on its promises.

        “You cannot put the genie back into the bottle — once you know how to do stuff, you know, and the only way to check this is through verification,” Grossi said on Wednesday, referring to checks by UN monitors.


        • MarkyMark says:

          “Cuba supports Iran’s program to develop nuclear technology for peaceful purposes[4] though the countries agreed to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons. Former President of Cuba Fidel Castro spoke admiringly of Iran “increasing its ability to fight big powers by the day.”[3]”


  33. vonrecht says:

    BBC TV news at 1 managed a sentence on Biden’s reluctant admission that the virus may be connected to the Wuhan lab.
    Anyone who has been so inclined, could have followed the Wuhan lab(s) saga for many, many months.
    And there is a lot more than a sentence available on this saga. A lot!
    But it does not fit the bbc narrative any more than it does the CNN, MSNBC narrative, etc etc. Then again, one does not expect any INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM FROM THE BBC. So the chances of easily uncovering the truth about this story remain slim.
    (There ARE investigative journalists though, that insist they WILL get to the bottom of this tale…Our national broadcaster isn’t one of them; they apparently don’t have the quality staff such depth and independence would require. Or could it be that there are even vested interests? Surely not…?)


    • MarkyMark says:

      Norway is ranked first in the Index for the fifth year running even though its media have complained of a lack of access to state-held information about the pandemic.



    • davylars says:

      Go back to April 2020
      Fact checked by the BBC, so it must be true…



    • Doublethinker says:

      Sky Australia, one of few good guys in the MSM, reported yesterday that they had been pushing the possibility that the virus was man made in the lab at Wuhan for over a year. They had been repeatedly rubbished by the ABC , ie Aussie BBC for doing so. But yesterday , surprise surprise , ABC began to report that there was indeed a possibility that the virus had escaped from the lab. A complete reversal of their stance over the last year. Sky thought that the reasoning behind this volte face was that previously the ABC’s Trump Derangement Syndrome required them to rubbish anything and everything that Orange Man said regardless of whether it was true or not.
      For ABC read CNC , MSNBC, BBC, Sky GB, Times , NYT, Washington Post , Guardian and all the rest of the leftist apologies for broadcasters and newspapers.


  34. MarkyMark says:

    Despite the UK government’s stated commitment to defending global media freedom, domestic restrictions remained cause for concern. A secret government unit appeared to serve as a clearing house for freedom of information requests, and critical media outlets found themselves blacklisted or facing other restrictions. Critical reporting on the government’s Covid-19 response was met with vindictive official reactions.



  35. MarkyMark says:

    Made he laugh … “In many countries, websites, social media and blogs are controlled by oppressive leaders. Young people, in particular, are forced to grow up in systems where their opinion is heavily manipulated by governmental disinformation campaigns.”


    Facebook Ends Ban on Posts Asserting Covid-19 Was Man-Made
    Social media titan’s policy shift reflects a deepening debate over the origins of the virus first identified in Wuhan, China



    • Old Goat says:

      I wonder how long it’ll be before they also begin to allow pro-Trump comments, given that it’s very likely that his election failure was a complete and utter fraud. The truth is slowly emerging.


  36. Thoughtful says:

    Very interesting trip to Tesco looking at the newspaper stand, very very different and clear bias split down the middle with the Tory papers attacking Cummings, and the Labour ones attacking Johnson.

    Nowhere was there a clear news story reporting the facts, and therin is the problem.

    There needs to be a clear format for all media imposed by law outlining what constitutes a newspaper such as a requirement in the first section, for dispassionate reporting of the facts with a second section for opinion pieces. The fact that today not a single newspaper carried the bare facts without bias is evidence of that.

    Those who wish to carry on business as usual could cease to be newspapers and carry on as political activist pamphlets and lose the privilidges they currently have,

    This I believe is the only way to reisntill confidence in the MSM, and that could also be pushed over to the BBC.


    • vonrecht says:

      Thoughtful – We seldom get ‘dispassionate reporting of the facts’ from the bbc. It has its agendas and those will be pushed, no ‘other side’ to any story. And many other big stories will be excluded entirely, if they don’t suit the narrative.
      So Biden’s admission about the Wuhan lab (a really BIG story, if you think of the many hours, days, weeks, months devoted to the virus) received a sentence on bbc TV News at 1. Marcus Rashford , on the other hand, received extensive coverage of his ‘racism’ claims. Now I don’t do Twitter; whatever ‘racist’ comments there were on him are unnecessary and reprehensible. Nothing further to be said. Here a sentence would have sufficed. Simon Stone says Rashfordhad a poor game..
      But this is a favourite bbc theme and it will rant at length…
      The possibility that the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, whether the virus ‘leaked out’ or was possibly deliberately ‘weaponised’, if so -by whom –all of no comparative importance, it seems? No attempt to ask whether certain labs may be working on other viruses? Encouraged by whom? Why? Which ones? Could they arrive here tomorrow? Nope, nothing to be seen here. Who ‘took the knee’ at football and who didn’t is much more important…


  37. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – are Marianna’s days at the BBC numbered?

    TWat O Presenter Sarah Montague brought on a new name and voice, so new that I have forgotten it already. Speaking of forgetting things, I wonder whether the BBC HR Dept forgets how many people it employs for Corporation and keeps recruiting more and more. After all, there’s a bottomless pit of TV Licence Fee-payer money to pay for it.

    Anyway, this gent was a chip off our Marianna’s block, probably came out of the same mould: he accepted without a question of doubt that a Secretary of State was responsible for going shopping. He and the Montacutie did not consider for one moment that contributors might not be telling the truth, and might be politically motivated to make a Conservative Party government look bad.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Dear Winston Smith in the Memory Hole Department of the BBC,

      I hope you are well and that viewing complaints all day does not make you biased against the BBC in anyway.

      I noticed that on the BBC News programme that the programme text said 50 migrants and the presenter said 66 migrants arrived on the coast of the UK fleeing from the shores of the EU27.

      This could cause untold mental health problems, imagine a person watching with the sound off and another person listening and not really watching the screen. These two people meet and cannot agree what number of migrants left the troubled shores of the EU27 to reach the UK – creating two confused people who might then think they are going mental and not hearing the right thing.

      I suppose the question is which was the correct number or do viewers complete some Orwell maths such as 2+2=5?

      Many Thanks,
      Mr. H.

      ** “fleeing from the shores of the EU27” was added by myself.


  38. MarkyMark says:

    Complaint Summary: The omission is the most powerful form of lie …

    Full Complaint: “Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed (May and Corbyn’s old speeches): everything else is public relations.” – Orwell

    Theresa May … being put forward as Prime Minister and issuing a general election on implementing Brexit which was about immigration and sovereignty. … these speeches were never mentioned on the BBC £3.5bn news or other media outlets …
    1978 … “The moment the minority threatens to become a big one, people get frightened.” – Margaret Thatcher 1978

    2012 … “Two and a half years ago, the coalition government was formed, and we made a clear promise to the British public. After thirteen years of uncontrolled mass immigration, this government would reduce and control immigration.” – Theresa May 2012

    2015 … “Because when immigration is too high (no figure given), when the pace of change is too fast, it’s impossible to build a cohesive society.” – Theresa May 2015

    Jeremy Corbyn … with all the news on BBC £3.5bn Service regarding the Iran Nuclear Deal, Jeremy Corbyn has not been asked why he backs Al Quds protests and has spoken at them or why his is not vocal on Iran’s ‘death to’ position with Israel.

    2012 … Jeremy Corbyn speaks at Al Quds march, Al Quds is the protest for all the oppressed but was initiated by an oppressor Ayatollah Khomeini. Jeremy Corbyn does not chastise the Iranian regime.

    2018 … Iran release a ‘Death to Israel’ and ‘Death to America’ Government approved emoji. But this is not mentioned when talking about Iran by the BBC or other outlets.

    MPs expenses …. it was in 2008 that MPs used expenses to fill their own pockets or shredded. UK MPs on both sides have talked about reducing expenses and recession and austerity. Yet, since 2010 MPs have enjoyed a pay increased of 18%. How come the BBC news has not reported on this when talking to MPs?

    “The omission is the most powerful form of lie, and it is the duty of the historian to ensure that those lies do not creep into the history books.” – George Orwell


    Thank you for getting in touch regarding BBC News.

    I understand you have concerns about the integrity of BBC News reporting over the last few years.

    BBC News aims to show the political reality and provide a forum for discussion on issues, giving full opportunity for all sides of the debate to be heard and explored. Senior editorial staff within BBC News and the BBC’s Executive Board ensure that editorial guidelines are adhered to.

    Our News editors ensure that over a reasonable period of time we reflect the range of significant views, opinions and trends on particular issues, but it’s important to add here that our published Editorial Guidelines explain that not every issue or viewpoint necessarily has to be included in each individual report.

    The key point is that the BBC as an organisation has no view or position itself on anything we may report upon – our aim is to identify all significant views, and to test them rigorously and fairly on behalf of our audiences.

    In dealing with any controversial issue, we are required to give a fair and balanced report, but balance cannot be judged simply on the basis of the amount of time allocated to the representatives of either side of an argument. One spokesperson may make their points concisely, while another needs rather longer to explain a point of view or a complex issue, plus a change to the existing position or status quo may take longer to clarify.

    Account also needs to be taken of the way a subject is covered over a period of time; perfect balance is difficult to achieve on every single individual occasion, while overall it is a more achievable goal taking into account our coverage as a whole over a period of time.

    That said, we do value your feedback about this issue. All complaints are sent to senior management every morning and I included your points in this overnight report.

    These reports are among the most widely read sources of feedback in the BBC and ensures that your complaint has been seen by the right people quickly. This helps inform their decisions about current and future programmes.

    Once again, thank you for contacting us.

    Kind regards

    Gareth Murray

    BBC Complaints Team


  39. MarkyMark says:

    China has denounced US efforts to further investigate whether Covid-19 came from a Chinese lab.

    US President Joe Biden has called on intelligence officials to “redouble” their work to find out how the virus was first transmitted to humans.


    – – – –

    China replaces Germany as UK’s biggest import market
    Trade with EU falls 23% from 2018 as Brexit and Covid disrupt exports from Britain

    – – – – –

    Coronavirus Cases: 91,038
    Deaths: 4,636
    Recovered: 86,075

    United Kingdom
    Coronavirus Cases: 4,470,297
    Deaths: 127,748
    Recovered: 4,308,117


    — – – – – – – – –

    The UK Government has flown over 21 million pieces of PPE and more than 1,000 ventilators to the NHS and Social Care Services from China over the last three weeks.


  40. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Radio 4, Wednesday 24 March 2021

    In an item about proposed Government changes to immigration rules we interviewed a Syrian teacher and filmmaker now living in the UK, Hassan Akkad. We (BBC) should have made clear Mr Akkad is a member of the Labour Party as this might have helped the audience evaluate his contribution, without casting into doubt his personal knowledge of the issue.




  41. Fedup2 says:

    I wonder if there is an empirical measure of the proportion of ‘speakers ‘ who are put on the BBC who are lefties – as well as those not properly introduced?

    I somehow think that those of the Right are fully introduced ( smeared If possible ) whereas the friendly coloured female GP bitching about NHS shortages ( stereotyping by me ) isn’t introduced as a member of the Labour Party .

    And I often think the medical mafia get the ‘respectability ‘ they don’t deserve ….


  42. Guest Who says:

    Ex BBC Newsnight; the programme of McAlpine.

    Strumpet and Lewis still there.


    • micknotmike says:

      I’ve read the article. After the opening remarks- Analysis – no mention of race at all. Rest of article – no mention of race at all. It’s as if the BBC have looked at it, entered “That’s hot stuff and not what we want to hear, so ignore it” mode. It makes me thoroughly sick to think that they brush it aside as if it’s a minor matter. It’s the whole reason for the grooming gangs, they aren’t sickoes, paedos or any of the fluffy names you may have. They are muslims doing what their book says is acceptable. That is what the police need to say, if you want to do that then do it, just not in this country.


  43. Fedup2 says:

    Disappointing news for Londoners – the mayors girl (£127k p.a. Plus package ) says that London isn’t going to be getting 3000 more plod after all .

    That is a shame for those who admire plod who take the manadatory knee – celebrate freedom for Palestine -or take selfies of dead people at crime scenes …or be part or drugs gangs..


  44. MarkyMark says:

    “The main point of BBC interviews is that you’re interviewed by someone who hasn’t read your book, who then tries to catch you out on it.” – Douglas Murray


  45. Guest Who says:

    Wait until BBC Fact checking gets Sultana in on stats matters.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Islam means peace.


      • Guest Who says:

        The BBC used be overseen by an entity called ‘The Trust’.


      • Banania says:

        “Islam means peace.”
        “Submission” – which is a kind of peace.


    • Guest Who says:

      How many listen to R4 like it is Gospel vs. BBC Politics?


  46. Fedup2 says:

    Mail reports covid frenzy in London’s China town – people without Health numbers ( illegals ) welcome – please let it be a scam by the border force to deport a few thousand illegals …….
    …but I think it’s not.


  47. pugnazious says:


    The BBC is complete rubbish isn’t it.

    Apparently Cummings now admits it was all a lie…the real reason he went up North was for his family’s security…Jeremy Vine was even mocking him today saying Cummings lied, he didn’t go to check his eyes but to protect is family….but that’s even more a bizarre claim. Cummings went to Barnard Castle on a small trip to check his eyes but he went up North for his family’s security and in case both he and his wife caught covid 19 his niece could look after his kid.

    Almost exactly a year ago Cummings told us he went, in part, for reasons of security after left-wing thugs and Remainers had been coming to his home, and on social media, and threatening him….anger and hate all whipped up by the media of course…such as the BBC.

    It’s not a new story.

    Here’s the Express…25.5.20…

    ‘Dominic Cummings says ‘threats of violence’ forced him to flee to Durham’
    ‘Dominic Cummings agreed to speak to the press on Monday at 4pm to address his latest controversy of allegedly breaking coronavirus lockdown rules. Dominic Cummings travelled from London to County Durham to self-isolate with his family in March despite the stringent lockdown rules in place. Boris Johnson addressed the issue in the Sunday Press conference and defended his top aide’s actions.
    In his statement on Monday afternoon, Mr Cummings explained his reasoning for travelling with his family to self-isolate on a family farm rather than his London home.

    He claimed that he was fearful for his safety and that of his family after receiving threats.

    He said: “There were stories saying I opposed lockdown and didn’t care about many deaths.

    “But these stories had created a bad atmosphere around my home. I was subject to threats of violence and there were posts on social media encouraging attacks and media reports showing my house.

    “I was also worried, given the severity of the emergency, the situation would get worse.

    “I was worried about the possibility of leaving my wife and child at home all day, late into the night, while I worked in No 10.’

    Why do I keep hearing on the BBC that this is a new revelation?


  48. digg says:

    Pakistan: man sentenced to death for blasphemy on Facebook
    Taimoor Raza was found guilty of insulting the prophet Muhammad during an argument on social media with a counter-terrorism official


    In a sane rational World every Nation supporting the ideal of Free Speech and fair justice would immediately close ALL relationships with any tin-pot dictatorship using these methods to control their populations including absorbing any more of their people or buying any of their products or sending them “Aid”.

    This is real stuff not made-up woke garbage, a man is to be put to death for speaking his mind, utterly barbaric.

    So come on UK, USA, UN, Australia, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany put your money where your mouth is for God’s sake!