Weekend Thread 19 June 2021

We are heading for the end of the first week of broadcasting by GBNews . What can be said ? It has a different style – presenters allow their guests / interviewees time to speak – the BBC habit of attacking – interrupting – closing down – or just not allowing air time – isn’t there. There have been a few technical issues and some excellent advertising by advertisers refusing to advertise – but for a new kid on the block it can only be a good thing .

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280 Responses to Weekend Thread 19 June 2021

  1. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:



    • StewGreen says:

      Yes come back Brissles
      ..don’t let the buggers grind you down.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Yes – I will second / third that – come back bris ( I can fix it for you to be first every time ..…)


        • Scroblene says:

          Have to admit, that when I’ve had some nasties chucked at me on various sites, the back room – unlit, is a safe haven to think ‘oh sod it all’…

          Briss, please come back, I always imagine you as the village neighbour we would love to have, with lots of chats, a few drinks and loads of laughter!


          • taffman says:

            Have l missed something?


            • Scroblene says:

              I thought Brissles had an upper-downer a day or so ago, and hoped she was OK to come back, Taff…

              We’re all 99% chums here at any rate!


              • taffman says:

                Come to think of it , what has happened to my ‘chum’ maxincony ?
                I must admit I did call him an “Aunt Sally in a coconut shy”


                • Up2snuff says:

                  Has the ‘dear old thing’ run off because of too much footie during the cricket season? #metoo.

                  I am also suffering Euros overload but will raise a cheer if Wales beat Italy. Hoping for a good evening for you, taffman.


      • Big Al says:

        I’ve looked back over the past few days and I can’t find any posts from Brissles. Do hope we’ve not lost her, she’d be badly missed.


    • StewGreen says:

      Catchup links to latest posts on the previous thread
      page 5 started 7pm Friday
      … stuff about the Tory-hating bishop in Wales

      page 4 started 3am Friday
      The LibDeb win
      – Police saying they will put Alex Belfield on trial etc.

      page 3


  2. Loobyloo says:

    And on Al Beebs build up to the match (website) they featured a tweet which appeared to be a gay male couple with multiracial kids….maxincony and piku what are the chances of that? Did someone trawl Twitter looking for the best tick box tweet?
    And I have nothing against those folks, it’s just the way Al Beeb shoves it down your throat with regularity. It’s not good journalism to use Twitter, and who cares what those folks are doing..


  3. Foscari says:

    I know I am off topic. But I would like to congratulate
    Gareth Southgate on achieving his 0-0 against
    I have been to the Caribbean several times and watching
    the adverts on ITV makes me feel that I am watching
    Domenican Republic, Jamaican or Barbados TV.
    The best part of the coverage on ITV was after the match
    when we saw a preview for “Spitting Image” With Boris
    Johnson shooting Dominic Cummings!!


    • Fedup2 says:

      Foscari – I too would like to thank the woke England and Scotland teams for providing a few shillings for a 0 – 0 draw and for making it look like the woke England team won’t get to the semi finals …( another bet )
      Do we get the ‘Scots trash London ‘ headlines on Saturday morning ?

      By the way -the next time the government goes on about distancing and not travelling remember the thousands of jocks who went to London without footy tickets …..


  4. Nibor says:

    Tories ! ,

    Do you want to win elections?

    Then forget about appeasing woke lefties in universities, charities , the BBC. and other Gramscian infested institutions, they won’t vote for you whatever you do .

    Take a leaf out of Margaret Thatcher’s book who won three elections for you : just annoy them .

    Abolish the telly tax .
    Stop all illegal immigration.

    Send any and all illegal immigrants in England and Wales to Nichola Sturgeons Scotland until she squeals the truth about her immigration policy . Which is virtue signalling because she knows they don’t end up there now .

    Reform and sack senior civil servants .

    Watch GB News .


    • NCBBC says:


      That is a manifesto that will win an election every time. The trouble with it is that it is short and easily remembered. Therefore broken election promises will be punished immediately, and you will never ever be elected again. The other is that the few election promises are fulfilled within one term, and you have nothing to offer for the next.

      The trick is to make a manifesto wordy, boring and contradictory. No one will read it. That way you win always. The Tories have learnt well.


  5. StewGreen says:

    ITBB has 3 new posts, one on Bashir, one on Israel issues


  6. Jeff says:

    Oh, come on BRISSLES, I did apologise.
    And I was only taking the mickey…


    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      Jeff, don’t take all the blame. There was a much nastier attack on Brissles close to yours by someone who hasn’t apologised.


      • JimS says:

        Blame the BBC!

        The BBC has helped create and maintain a climate of Covid-fear and to demonise anyone who dissents, (thanks Marianna!).

        Rather than ‘bring us together’ or at least allow a polite conversation they have made it another ‘black and white’ issue, (soon to be banned expression?), where one side is convinced there is one truth and the other is deeply resentful of being ignored, silenced and reviled.

        Without the BBC there wouldn’t be sides, just differences of opinion that no-one would lose any sleep over.

        Frustration caused by the BBC, a body who won’t engage with its public, (‘we always get it just about right’), can end up being directed towards those who do engage here.

        Sadly in ‘e-converstions’ the raised eyebrow, intake of breath, downturned mouth, the subtle clues that moderate normal conversation are not present, so it is best, if we can, to ‘give the benefit of doubt’. The alternative can be seen on Twitter.


        • NCBBC says:

          There are two giant hoaxes running concurrently in the UK at the moment

          1. Climate Change

          2. Covid Pandemic and the Great Lockdown.

          On the latter here is Katy Hopkins.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Yasser, would that be maxincony? He still owes me an apology, too.


  7. Jeff says:

    I’ve really enjoyed GB News first week.
    Okay, there have been some technical difficulties.
    The sets are very dark and the sound system has been playing up. That seems to have been rectified.
    Some of the presenters lack a bit of polish, but they’re not necessarily long term journalists, so give them time.
    And it’s just so refreshing to hear an alternative opinion.

    BBC, Sky, Channel 4 and ITV have completely lost the plot. They’re all so predictably and painfully PC I just can’t have them on.

    So, I reckon 8 out of 10 for GB News first week.


  8. StewGreen says:

    A lot of stories on Guido of course
    – Red wall Tory MP, Imran Ahmad Khan has had the Tory whip removed pending the outcome of a prosecution for alleged groping of a 15 year-old boy, 13 years ago
    Khan stated: I am innocent.

    – They have a stupid clickbait title
    Labour MP Admits to Selling Drugs
    … yes she’s a pharmacist

    Batley & Spen election – the pretence that Kim Leadbeater is running her campaign on local issues has finally gone out the window.
    In a new letter forwarded to Guido today, the Labour candidate claims she will be “a strong voice for Palestinian human rights and statehood”, and promises to “use [her] voice in Parliament to speak out against the injustice of the Israeli occupation“.


  9. StewGreen says:

    \\ The BBC responded: ‘Having reviewed the content, we have edited the article and video in question.’

    On the Newsround website the BBC said:
    ‘This article has been amended to remove a reference by a contributor that the Pfizer vaccine is 100 per cent safe.’
    But that may not be seen by the thousands of children who will still believe what they heard the professor say.

    The gung-ho presentation on Newsround was clearly produced by the BBC to coerce British children into taking the vaccine,
    TCW opinion piece


  10. vlad says:

    When will the Bland Boring Corporation ever allow firm, pro-Western views like this in a gutsy opinion piece?

    Never, of course.

    “The only thing G7 proved is western leaders are totally consumed by woke gesture politics”


    • NCBBC says:

      The greatest worry in G7 heads is how to get out of the huge debt it is in – mainly to China.

      They can print money, and hold interest rates down. In effect they will rob pensions and savings. This will soon start in the USA, and then infect the rest of the world.


  11. tomo says:

    Tucker Carlson…. again


  12. taffman says:

    Al Beeb……………..“The government has been sent a “warning shot” by voters over planning reforms for England and the HS2 rail link, the co-chairman of the Tories has said.”

    IMHO, It’s Boris and his cabinet that has the “warning shot”. Are we seeing the beginnings of a coup ?


    • Fedup2 says:

      There’s no warning shot – nothing will change – nut nut will get even more woke – nut nut has years to go before the next election – they’ll build an unwanted and unnecessary railway – it will open around 2060 – and people of the right will have no where to go.
      The biggest shock coming will be rising interest rates which nut nut isn’t thinking about because he only does ‘today ‘…


      • taffman says:

        More powder for that “warning shot” then? Add liberal amounts of ‘illegals’ filling our 5 Star hotels by the summer and another year of a “build back better “ lockdown, then a coup will certainly be on the way.


    • NCBBC says:

      I hope so. Unless Open Doors policy is closed, Britain will be in the same proto-civil war mess that France is in.

      Or maybe that is the only real option left. So sooner the better.


  13. Guest Who says:

    The BBC and market rate talents know what is news.


  14. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch
    I thought I’d give the 7am edition half an hour. ..so..

    1 an empty piece about a killing 40? Years ago – institutional corruption in plod ( not explained ) – awful journalism

    2 Scotland won the footy ( apparently – with a tedious 0-0 draw

    3 an expert saying ‘communities ‘ are finally getting vaccinated
    Guess the ‘communities ‘( no blame – they are victims

    4 topped off by something about American slavery

    The software on my streaming iPad tells me when I’ve had too much woke and reverted to the music I listen too most of the time …..


    What would the BBC do without reports?

    There must be a report on something every 2 days . Yet some reports get big coverage – like the plod report mentioned above – yet others are buried – the Manchester arena Islamic mass murder report for example ….

    But compare the coverage at the time – images of dead 9 year old girls – parents and relatives anguished – but the report ? No – here’s the weather.

    By the way ( again ) the next report is about the response ( or non response ) of the ‘emergency services – it’s out is a few months but I can summarise –
    They sat on their arses and let kids die because it was ‘dangerous ‘…. But the report will say that in 200 pages …


  15. AsISeeIt says:

    Cinderella stories

    Our news providers revert to form this morning.

    When in doubt our media editors have a list of go-to stories.

    The Mail goes to: ‘Police quizzed Charles over Diana murder conspiracy‘ – Martin Bashir and his former employers must be pleased his name has dropped out of the headlines.

    The Sun goes to their non-conspiratorial: ‘Diana at 60. The Princess remembered in her own words. See pages 12 & 13

    If you’re going to go with conspiracies at least make them fun and topical. The self-proclaimed: ‘Cheaper than the Sun and a lot more fun‘ – Daily Star goes with 1970s TV psychic Uri Geller as the reason for England’s failure to bend it like Beckham last night: ‘England 0 Scotland 0. It’s all Uri’s fault! Spoon-bootherer thwarts Star’s tin foil hats to make 3 Lions really boring

    Why bother with the BBC or Guardian when you can read that quality of headline writing? And they blame the Israeli.

    The BBC seem to have utilised a headline template left over from their by-election coverage that was sitting ready for re-use and you can see how they simply transposed the words Scotland and Labour, England and Tories:

    Real hope for Scotland but a wake-up call for England

    The Guardian is happy: ‘Tories fear “blue wall” seats at risk after Lib Dem victory‘ – I’m sure the Guardianistas would like to put it all down to middle class revulsion at the hard-right policies of those uncaring pro-Brexit Tories. However, we known the LibDems can be pretty effective street fighters on local issues at by-elections and even the Guardian admits it was little more than nimbyism – quoting a Tory MP in the South East: ‘...the LibDems had shown they could successfully rally voters against the government’s planning changes

    The Times concurs: ‘PM warned homes plan turning off voters

    Kate Duchess of Cambridge pops up on the frontpage of the Express and her rainbow umbrella and universal platitudes has one thinking the Guardian ought to have snapped up her photo and pointless statement: ‘Smiley Kate makes splash calling for “happier world”

    The ‘i’ however is still sore and grumpy over Brexit: ‘Brexit red tape stops charity poppy sales to the EU‘ – someone tell them it’s not that time of year. How many British poppies did they expect to sell in France and Germany? I’m all for promoting British export opportunities – but poppies – really?

    The ‘i’ can be a strange beast. Whilst pining for our former overlords in Brussels the ‘i’ tells us: ‘G7 was “super spreader” event in Cornwall

    Our Tory government may appear powerless to stop thousands of illegal channel crossings but when they really want to come down hard and impose the law… with the smack of firm authority… on a musical theatre production….

    Lloyd Webber drops Covid challenge to avoid fines for audiences

    Andrew Lloyd Webber last night backed down over his threat to reopen his theatres without social distancing after being warned that his entire staff and the audience could have been fined hundreds of pounds each‘ (Telegraph)

    Poor Cinderella clapped in irons and held prisoner by the Baron Hardup Boris and the ugly sisters Witty and Valance – I like this new take on the old fairy tale.

    Funny how there’s no collective punishment threats for illegals and our government tells us all they can do is go after some mysterious king pin people smugglers.


    • NCBBC says:

      He’s probably making a sales trip for Chinese weapons manufacturers.

      Its likely that US Armed forces can get all the weapons they require far cheaper from China then from American manufacturers. This will then allow the US Defence Dept to fund transgender ops, weapons grade pregnancy armoured suites etc.


  16. Fedup2 says:

    Not really the BBC – but the Euros – boring – boring games – no drama – but the referees and VAR is doing ok – so that’s ok


    • The WestWyvern says:

      Best result there could have been. England’s wokest, overpaid prima donnas and their ‘manger of letters’ Gareth Wokegate show the footballing nation just how overhyped they are (again… When will the fans learn)?

      The scotch raised their game to get a draw, so the lack of a win means the Scotch National Sociallist can’t crow about victory over the hated English.

      I had a relative in the crowd. He will grow up one day. The knee taking was roundly and loudly booed. The Tannoy/PA played cheering noises to mask it out. Ala North Korea.

      Wokegate then spent the next ten minutes muttering stomping about and staring into the stands.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I could guess the booing because the camera did not cut to the crowd during those seconds . The commentator said the players were doing it for ‘racial discrimination and social justice ‘.

        Which means – then – that 99% of the players who don’t kneel in the tournament don’t care about ‘racial discrimination and social justice ‘- right ?

        If Uk footy players care that much they won’t mind a windfall tax of 90% of their earnings would they ? It can pay for a day of NHS funding ….

        As for Londonistan – looks like plod looked away from enforcing inconvenient laws again –


        • The WestWyvern says:

          I struggle with it Fed, and the blatant attempt by the media to justify it.

          Racial discrimination? The U.K. Is the most open tolerant society in the world. We let every come here, set up their ghettos, follow their own laws, religions, practices etc… Even printing NHS letters in 20 different languages and providing similar amounts in schools, to say nothing of the benefits…. As for footballers, the black and coloured minorities are over represented in the game.

          Social justice. Yes let’s take a lecture from footballers on that one… Ryan Giggs anyone? As for justice, I’ve paid taxes for over 40years and don’t currently have or can see a GP.

          These blithering idiots make me sick. They should try the real world for 10seconds and step out of their cosseted lifestyles.


          • Beltane says:

            So complacent, convinced and morally proud are the FA, Southgate, the ECB and associated others of the ‘rightness of their cause’ that they remain oblivious to the damage their political interference and moralising wreaks on team morale.

            If footballers and cricketers are forced to be more concerned about BLM kneeling and silly Twittering from their teens, is it any wonder they lack concentration and get trashed?


          • Fedup2 says:

            I more than struggle it . It has put back race relations. The more the ‘coloured britain ‘ message is pushed – for more distant i them – it is ‘them ‘ and ‘us’

            Obviously the muslims are never going to fully integrate into the West- their false religion is based on ‘hate’ .


          • NCBBC says:

            TWW: As for justice, I’ve paid taxes for over 40years and don’t currently have or can see a GP.

            If so, then for the State, your age marks you as a person who has outlived his useful time.

            In an emergency, I dread that I might not come out alive if I’m taken to an NHS facility. A DNR notice, and then a lonely death in a corridor. Everyone wins except the surprised relatives.

            With unlimited illegals pouring in with huge demands on the NHS, a cash wasting NHS has to ration its time and money. The elderly are an easy target.

            There are far to many doctors and nurses that can barely speak English. Also far too many doctors with degrees from countries like Somalia, Sudan , Afghanistan, where an MD can be had for £50.

            Its time to have a two tier NHS. The present setup where the paying are given the same treatment or less as the non-paying is absurd. It was tolerable when the non-paying numbers were small. But not now.


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:


      How boring were England?
      Did they get their half time talk from SAGE?
      They played with extreme caution and were so risk averse.

      Scotland deserved to win. They came out all guns blazing and kept it up for the whole game.

      Again, I believe they used the tannoy applause to try and cover the booing during the pre match grovel.


      • Fedup2 says:

        EG Scots championship team versus prem club players scared of getting injured . And as for the English captain – I can’t see that 70 minute job interview getting him away from the Spurs…

        But at least the English goalie didn’t GBH anyone this time …


  17. Guest Who says:

    Uh huh. Now it is a system issue.

    Even Sopes must see the US media is in denial.


    • NCBBC says:

      The idea that Biden whose rallies could barely rustle a dozen, beat Donald Trump whose rallies measured in the hundreds of thousands, is absurd.

      Its not the two party system that is broke. Its the unrestricted Open Borders that has destroyed the system. If one gets large numbers of people who have no idea of the traditions that underlie the US constitution, and besides have one of their own, the country will break.

      We in the UK have been lucky so far, as we have a monarchy that holds us together as a Christian nation. But we too will break. Republics are more vulnerable. France is near open civil war.


  18. The WestWyvern says:

    The BBC and other media outlets proclaim it was the Tory plans to update the planning laws that swung the Bye Bye Boris Election this week.

    Now it may be a remain area full of the well heeled liberal ‘tories’ that infect the party, (I think Mrs Thatcher described them as ‘wets’ once upun a time) but do the voters think that the illiberal undemocratics they voted for will change the status quo?

    Far from it, in fact all the immigrants they would actively seek out and invite to populate this overcrowded island will have to be housed somewhere…. the ongoing dinghy invasion encouraged by the red tories will seem like a drop in the ocean.

    Lots more housing…

    Coming to a back garden near you soon, middle England.


    • Fedup2 says:

      West – in my bit of Londonistan the one party socialist state council is building tower blocks whether they can put them .

      The planning department must be very wealthy by now …

      As for the bi election – interesting that the new MP legged it from the press at her own celebration … but then again – she was elected against the policies of her own party … popcorn ?


      • The WestWyvern says:

        Having lived under the yoke of a Lib Dem MP and County Council for years Fed, I just don’t understand why anyone would give them a vote, it’s my belief they are in many cases, in need of urgent medical help.

        Good luck withe tower blocks, I assume they are designed to a standard that is ‘post’ Grenfell. Are they also constructing large outdoor excercise yards for the ‘workers’ daily morale booster, just like North Korea?


        • Fedup2 says:

          West – the population density is through the roof . The infrastructure cant deal as all the roads have been closed . Im a racial minority in my own town .

          Im lucky i have a more civilised residence elsewhere …


      • Up2snuff says:

        Has Keir Starmer resigned yet?


        • Fedup2 says:

          Why should he ? The 650 people who voted Labour must know something …


          • Up2snuff says:

            Fed, come now! As you know well, there’s a number of gullible souls in any constituency.


  19. Nibor says:

    Nibor’s further advice to Tories .

    Control – stop – immigration and give the reason as ;

    Every nation has the right to decide who can enter into it , for how long and what behaviour is expected .

    Not :
    We control illegal immigration because of humanitarian reasons. We want to stop snakeheads earning money from it and someone – an illegal who consorted with criminals to circumnavigate our lax borders – might drown .

    The first reason will be approved by 90% of the population, the second reason won’t get votes from the wokes to the Tories .
    It also won’t stop the BBC from traducing Conservatives on their so called comedy shows .


  20. StewGreen says:

    “BBC to launch rival to ITV’s Love Island – called Love in the Flesh”
    … Desperate attempt to get young viewers by “quality broadcaster”


    • tomo says:

      I’m not convinced the Beeboids “get” Love Island – as I understand it most of the show is the whole social media machine – the telly part is the bit above the waterline.


      it’s only other people’s money

      Putting the BBC3 team on it might attract chiropody sponsorship d/t some nasty curled toe injuries?


    • Up2snuff says:

      Featuring scantily clad young men and women, Stew, doing what scantily clad young men and women do* when on holiday on an island? How quickly the report by the Children’s Commissioner has been forgotten!

      ( * Spread Covid infections? )


  21. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – I wondered what angle the BBC would take on the Daniel Morgan interview

    Widely trailed from 7 a.m. on R4: the first interview with the son of Daniel Morgan, the man murdered in a south London Public House carpark. Daniel Morgan, son of the murdered man has rejected the apology from the Metropolitan Police and has called for those responsible for leading the BBC the Metropolitan Police to be sacked by the Mayor of London or the Home Secretary.

    Now I know ‘the angle’. Do the BBC ever approach an interview without an agenda, their agenda, in mind? The interview with Daniel Morgan was followed by one with the Chief Constable of Manchester Police, Steven Watson. Justin Webb asked him the ‘squeaky bum question’ not once but twice for and on behalf of all D-Gs past and present and all Beeboids: “Is dishonesty on the part of an organisation evidence of endemic corruption?”

    The Chief Constable of Manchester Police couldn’t answer and weaseled and waffled away, equivocating for all he was worth and sort of denying without denying. Watson would make a fine Director-General of the BBC if he should fancy retiring early from the police to sit in front of House of Commons Committees.

    Tony Hall and Tim Davie will have sighed a collective sigh of relief.

    Justin Webb did not allow one to escape on mic but no doubt thought ‘Phew!’


    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2 – as I write earlier I am only allowed 30 minutes of toady so had used my allocation . The ‘institutional corruption ‘ definition applies to every – every – public body .

      Any outfit is going to go ‘defensive ‘ and cover up its ‘issues ‘ – NHS – medical mafia – police – BBC – name one which doesn’t
      ( although the airline industry might qualify ) …

      I tried – once – to bring ‘organisational learning ‘ into the outfit I was working for because the same failures came across my desk again and again – I worked out how to stop them happening –
      But getting outfits to change for the better …? Tricky as they are too busy defending failures …


      • Up2snuff says:

        Sure, Fed, that’s right. I was just highlighting the British Bashergate Collusion nature of the question. 😉


  22. StewGreen says:

    Australia : The ABC, MSM, and Political Establishment
    are in trouble in the Bruce Pascoe controversy
    … They ended up insisting that his book should be in every school cos it gave a narrative of Aboriginal History they wanted
    … and their political correctness blocked any criticism of his “too good to be true” claims.
    … After 2 years the dam appears to be bursting.


  23. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – Er, I’m not sure that’s what you meant to say but …

    Good laughter moment on the programme this morning. Apparently some study, no doubt by a Yooni somewhere, has found that listening to a Mozart piano concerto while working actually helps the process. Unfortunately, the BBC journo/correspondent who brought us the audio clip stated: “Listening to a Mozart piano concerto helps people to work better with inconsequential results.” An ‘I’m Sorry I’ll read that again moment, if there ever was!

    Mind you, the Mozart p.c. chosen by the BBC (or the study?) had the opposite effect and had me thinking and shouting at the radio “Shut that racket up! I’m trying to concentrate here.”

    Bring on some Bach.


    • JimS says:

      I am sure that idea has been doing the rounds for decades.

      I guess there is a big book somewhere indexing university studies like ‘why does toast fall butter-side down’ and now that half of students get ‘firsts’ they must be running short of ideas for ‘research’ so that will first port of call.

      [Research – curious word, to search again? Actually that is what universities do, spend most of their time ‘reading the literature’, which must kill any novelty. Don’t forget the near-mandatory ‘peer review’ just to make sure that the ‘new’ findings conform to the old!]


      • Up2snuff says:

        You would be right, Jim. I tried revising for exams to music in the late 1960s and failed! Mind you roll, on a decade, and sleep learning (with important facts and sample questions on tape cassette) got me through another set of exams.


      • Banania says:

        I never had a piece of toast,
        Particularly long and wide,
        But fell upon the sanded floor,
        And always on the buttered side.


  24. Beltane says:

    Shame Dom Cummings was not around – he might have superglued those blue bricks together for a laugh.

    On which point, who ordered the bricks and how long before the result was known?


  25. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – Now the BBC misuse the word exponential

    Thank you to Prof Andrew Finn for talking some sense about Covid infections and Child Covid vaccination on the programme this morning. I did note, however, that Prof. Finn was described by Justin Webb at the end of the interview as “a friend of the BBC”. There is a damnation for you from a sign off, Prof.

    Needless to say, earlier on there was a female counterview (cannot remember a name or if she was a Beeboid or another ‘scientist’) but she pointed at some numbers and said “Scary” and talked up the fear quota.


  26. Fedup2 says:

    I wonder if any MSM has done research on the membership of SAGE – shadow SAGE and the other medical mafia outfits controlling our lives at the moment ?

    Their financial interests as well as how they got the gig would also be interesting .

    I hope joe public gives up on project fear as it did during brexit .


  27. Guest Who says:

    Two ways of looking at #prasnews


    Now, GB going to get Brillo in high heels when?


    • JimS says:

      Where will American men go for their soft porn?

      Where will American birthing-persons go for their undies?


  28. StewGreen says:

    FooC not so much agenda pushing today
    In Bukhara, Uzbekistan Sara Wheeler waxed lyrical intellectual history embedded in its mosques, madrasas and mausoleums.

    Final item was nothing to news
    it was just Andrew Harding praising BBC producers like his, Becky Lipscombe who is leaving “as the BBC is in turmoil”.


  29. StewGreen says:

    Mad green claims that suit narratives are just waved through, cos there is no opposing voice.
    11am R4 show claimed in passing that Ghengis Khan killed so many people he halted global warming.

    Em actually if people were burning wood not fossil fuels
    and planting crops at the same time they did land clearance
    then there wouldn’t have been manmade CO2 anyway

    11:30am Politics show ended with Chris Packham and Baroness Young making grand claims
    all PR for COP 26

    They said that Britain is getting drastically more polluted air
    and drastically hotter
    then said we must have UK species not species brought in from the Mediterranean
    .. hang on surely a warmer country needs warmer species ?


    • Old Goat says:

      Everything they postulate, they do with zero evidence. In fact most evidence indicates the opposite of what they say.

      Well, they can say what they like – nobody believes a word of it, anyway, and probably never did.

      Apparently there’s some doubt about COP26…



    • Sluff says:

      ‘Drastically more polluted air’

      It took me all of 10 seconds to find this


      People ( by which I mean BBC bezzie mates) talk total b****** and are allowed to get away with it unchallenged when anyone with a modicum of common sense and perspective knows that the reduction in coal use alone in the last 60 years plus the reductions shown for particulates, even at the roadside, means such an argument is totally unsustainable.

      The BBC. World class in fake news.


    • StewGreen says:

      13:45pm The same dogmatic thinking was parroted
      at 8 minutes of 15min prog.
      “Technology continues to derange and warp our understanding of what’s TRUE
      Take The Climate Crisis ..we have a finite amount of time”

      ..FFS The guy is taking for granted that his Climate Alarmist side is right

      The irony was that the guy pushed Climate Alarmism dogma in a talk dedicated to to the laudable topic of stopping people getting into bubbleworlds.
      He @TristanHarris was plugging his film The Social Dilemma


  30. Sluff says:

    Based on BBC coverage alone I gather Scotland played a football match last night and played really well and fully deserved their 0-0 draw.

    But I can’t figure out who they were playing.


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      The problem about trying to present the 0-0 result as a triumph for the Scots is that it takes no account of the group situation! Scotland lost their first game and thus really needed a win; they could still advance but need to beat Croatia in their final group match to reach 4 pts. England, who beat Croatia, could afford a draw v Scotland, as they now have 4 pts and the chance of more against the Czechs (just one from a draw would suffice).


      • gb123 says:

        Having read the daily pundits and seen some YouTube post match pundits no one seems to be looking a the scenario of England losing to the Czech Republic. They have a history of choking at crucial points against what they consider limited opposition. Especially when bigged up by the media.


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:


      It seemed like England played as if they didn’t get back up off their knees they were so poor.

      I don’t know about ‘football’s coming home’ but I think shamima begum has more chance of coming home than that lot.


  31. JimS says:

    As we all know air travel is ‘bad’, (except when done by our ‘betters’).

    In this video it is suggested that the world uses comparable amounts of kerosene, (jet fuel/paraffin), for lighting as the aviation industry, not a good thing for health reason if nothing else.

    Curiously the American presenter is wearing a T-shirt using the old BBC 2 test card, so there is a BBC connection!

    The joke is that in our better built-back, even more feminised, gender-neutral world we will be using hurricane lamps too!


    • G.W.F. says:

      Good to know about these lamps, which we will be required to use when electricity fails in the near future


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Ah, not so much fails as rationed to maximise the price save the planet. There’s a reason that smart meters support surge pricing (ask the folks in Texas) or switch you off if you use too much (ask the folks in Spain).



  32. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    ‘Our’ border force are going into French waters in their enthusiasm to collect as many illegals as possible and bring them into UK waters on their way to accommodation closed to our own rough sleepers, ex servicemen and other unfortunate Brits.

    One way to reduce this ever rising number of illegals is possibly by sinking our own border force ships and boats who are out looking for illegals to welcome to the UK
    Their actions are detrimental to the safety of the UK.


    • Banania says:

      It’s only fair that our boats can go into French waters to collect immigrants. After all, French boats come into our waters to catch fish.


  33. Dover Sentry says:

    Our BBC reporting Cricket:👿 Batter??

    India lead by 35 runs

    Shikha Pandey, on a pair, is the new batter in.

    She digs out a full ball for a single. The 200 up for India.



    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Can we stop this racist nonsense please? That country is now called Delta. The correct description is: ‘Delta leads by 35 runs’. Anyway, I’m now off to the local Delta restaurant for a Saturday night curry.


    • TrickCyclist says:

      “Batter” isn’t just a gender-neutral term, it’s also an Americanism from the mysterious and unnatural game of baseball.
      To me its use is just another tiny piece of the dilution of our own culture, e.g. where we used to watch a new series of a programme on the telly, we now watch a new “season” of a “show” on “TV.”
      (That’s assuming any of us watch telly at all these days.)

      Swing Batter!


  34. Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

    Another word I heard for the first time today, during the same England v India women’s Test, was “nightwatcher” instead of the old-style “nightwatchman”.


    • Deborah says:

      I like to listen to people’s voices as I prepare food in the kitchen. I used to like Radio 4 and desperately miss what it was. I used to be well informed. Even now my fingers twitch at the sight of the on/off switch as I realise I want the unobtainable. Within 2 minutes, but usually sooner, I realise whatever is on Radio 4 is agenda driven, and not my agenda, so I switch off.

      But at the moment my kitchen radio is switched to long wave. I thought it was Radio 4 but turns out it is Five Live and I am getting the ladies cricket. I enjoy the description of play but whoever the woman commentating is, she cannot do banter. Her stories have to be cut off because a ball has been bowled and like at a party, the moment has gone to finish the story. She tries too hard with the froth.

      I was tempted to turn off a few days ago when the chatter turned to the importance of getting more women into cricket. I am waiting to hear talk of more men in netball? Equally relevant. But like football, somewhere there are some influential people wanting women in men’s games. We see it with The Lionesses, but I am not sure why.

      I also heard this nonsense of ‘nightwatcher’. Sounds ridiculous and desperate.


  35. Fedup2 says:

    Perhaps the of the word ‘ ball’ could imply male dominence – whatabour replacing it with ‘spheres ‘ .


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Fedup2… you’re quite wrong: women and those who identify as women can have balls too, and in the latter case invariably do.


      • Nodding Dog says:

        Never realized how popular woman’s cricket was judging by how many posters on here were listening too it and yes the term ‘nightwatcher’ also drew my attention! Needs keeping an eye on to see if they try and introduce that term into the mens game.

        I don’t know who any of these women summarizers are but today one of them didn’t know what the shipping forecast was okay can cut her some slack there but yesterday when they were discussing England possibly making India follow on she asked if England would get a new ball at the start of India’s second innings she genuinely thought they would carry on with the same ball! Probably hired for box ticking reasons rather than her expertise.

        Also they kept moaning about the women’s tests only being four days instead of five like the men and in the next breath they were saying how exhausted and shattered the bowlers were!


  36. Guest Who says:

    Given recent BBC DG to NYT editorial values transfer, this is, presumably, a ‘mostly peaceful’ person of balaclava hit?


  37. G.W.F. says:

    BBC news report on finger pointing over security at the Arena bombing. Lessons to be learnt. One lesson should be aimed at the media, led by the state broadcaster, who constantly paint moslems as victims, seeing Islamophobia in every aspect of British life, thus providing a sense of righteousness for the bombers.


  38. Guest Who says:

    That’s all BBC news and panel shows in turmoil.

    Mascara vs. Cousin It makes any Godzilla franchise offshoot redundant.


  39. Fedup2 says:

    Bit rich considering thousands of scots types were allowed to do whatever they wanted in Londonistan ….

    Wonder how much indian variant they took back to scotland with them? 5 ? Hours on a crowded train ? …


  40. Sluff says:

    After all the anti English pro Scottish football coverage on the BBC yesterday (remembering that English population is approximately TEN times that of the Scottish) the BBC management must have been scratching their heads as to how to keep the bias going.

    How about a litter clear up ?
    Pretty thin huh?
    I kid you not.

    Scottish BBC webshite. Front page of main webshite.
    Wee krankie aka Sturgeon must be absolutely loving it.


  41. Dover Sentry says:

    GB News:

    “John Bercow, the former Conservative MP who became the scourge of Brexiteers as Commons Speaker, says he has switched allegiances to join the Labour Party.”


    • taffman says:

      He probably was a closet Labour Party supporter all the time?
      Most MP could change sides as they are all actors.


      • Dover Sentry says:

        Yep. He didn’t switch alliances, he never was a Tory. And he dragged out Brexit, costing us billions. 🙁

        He should be prosecuted and persecuted.


    • Dobyns says:

      Language NSFW. …

      Joe Pesci, My Cousin Vinnie


    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      Wow!!!!! What game changer for the Labour Party. Wow!!!!!!


    • Thoughtful says:

      Just more proof of how incompetent the Tories are.

      After appointing a Marxist infiltrator as leader they appoint a far Left Labourite as speaker without even noticing how far left he was. They really are a total shower of idiots


  42. Deborah says:

    GB news. We were watching Neil Oliver and remarked how relaxed he appeared in the role of interviewer. Then after the adverts he was discussing footballers taking the knee and the Marxist organisation that is BLM. You could sense his tension, with him, Andrew Doyle and the female guest in the care they felt in ensuring that they were not saying words that could be misrepresented. How I hate the woke Left.


    • Dover Sentry says:

      I agree. But I think that GB News is establishing itself very carefully and not giving ammunition to the hateful Left/BBC.

      It had that Jasmin Brown on yesterday. She cannot now criticise GB News as she has taken their money. Hislop was neutered by BBC money, maybe GB News are doing the same?

      Interesting times?


  43. Nodding Dog says:

    I owe the BBC an apology! On a couple of occasions I’ve noted their use of the term ‘lashed out’ or ‘attacked’ which was usually used when describing something Donald Trump or somebody on the right had said to make them sound aggressive whereas for those on the left they use the softer term of criticized.Well the other day they had the headline ‘Biden lashes out at CNN reporter’
    I suppose it could always be a one off so they can point to it as an example of impartiality!


    • Dobyns says:

      As the lovely, talented, and incumbent Mrs Dobyns is wont to note,

      “A leopard cannot change its spots”


    • Thoughtful says:

      CNN is left wing, the person that Sleepy Joe ‘lashed out’ at was a political activist masquesrading as a journalist ergo the BBC defended him.

      Nothing to see here just them looking afer their own,


  44. Dover Sentry says:

    Our BBC has this to say about Bercow regarding his switch to Labour:

    “The government “needs to be replaced”, said Mr Bercow, who made controversial procedural decisions over the Brexit process during his time as Speaker.”

    He made ‘Controversial procedural decisions’, says our BBC. Our BBC have been very kind to their big mate, who vigorously tried repeatedly to derail and reverse Brexit. Many would rightfully call him a traitor.



    • StewGreen says:

      His wife was selected to stand for Labour in 2009
      “She was previously a Conservative before switching to Labour shortly before Tony Blair’s election victory in 1997.”

      “Following the defection of Conservative MP Quentin Davies to the Labour Party in June 2007, there were persistent rumours that Bercow was likely to be the next Conservative MP to leave the party.
      Bercow did not defect to Labour, but in September 2007, accepted an advisory post on Gordon Brown’s government’s review of support for children with speech, language and communication special needs.

      Having initially been strongly associated with the right-wing faction of his party, his views shifted; by 2009 there were rumours that he would defect to the Labour Party.”
      Then he became speaker … so the official political affiliation was Independent


    • StewGreen says:


  45. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Looks to me like Bercow is looking to position himself as a future Labour leader.

    If he can get a safe seat in any by-election he might replace starmer.

    He is in the same position as burnham. Not an mp but could be fitted in when the conditions require him.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I’m vexed – the BBC reports this characters ‘ politics moving from being a Tory to Labour . How is that news ?

      He would be the ideal leader of the Labour Party – to finish it off – leaving its red replacement – the Conservative party – complete with nut nut ..


  46. JimS says:

    Cartoons that won’t appear on the BBC.


  47. Philip_2 says:

    Things might be tough for the BBC, but we all know that, like Germany that want to protect the TV license fee – at all cost!
    This guy was put in Jail for not paying his TV license (as he has NO Radio or TV, and he states that he is NOT alone amongst those that never listen to state TV or radio) — and yet he was still put in Jail on that sole basis….

    The BBC in another guise, beneath the EU banner.

    A 54-year-old man has become an unlikely cause celebre in Germany after he was jailed for six months for refusing to pay the country’s television license fee.

    Yet he has not been convicted of any crime. He is being held under the German equivalent of a bailiff’s warrant because refuses to pay the license fee.

    But because he has not committed any crime, the German public broadcaster WDR must pay the cost of his incarceration, which is already over €14,000 (£12,000).

    Mr Thiel has no television. He doesn’t have a radio either. Unlike in the UK, there is no exemption from the license fee in Germany for those who don’t use the services paid for by it.

    Under German law, every household must pay the license fee, currently €17.50 (£15) a month, whether it has a television or not.

    The television company insists he has enough money to pay his license fee, and is demanding he declare his assets before the courts so it can seize the sum.

    But public opinion appears to be turning against the broadcaster’s tough stance. A senior MP from Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats (CDU) has become the first mainstream politician to speak out against Mr Thiel’s incarceration.

    Mr Thiel is adamant he won’t back down. Under German law he cannot be held for more than six months for the unpaid fee. After that he must be released whether he pays or not.

    There is a lesson for the BBC here. If they insist we pay for BBC tosh, they are mistaken. But then perhaps the BBC will be encouraged to do the same (as in Germany). The BBC consider how wonderful the EU has become and (if only) we could all be like Germany, (by that they mean – East Germany in terms of parallels).



  48. StewGreen says:

    Woman’s Hour
    “We discuss the results of a BBC Freedom of Information request
    which asked police forces in the UK how many police had been accused of sexual misconduct. “

    Well someone should do that back to the BBC
    …who generally wriggle out of FOI requests

    citing “this info is held for the purposes of journalism, so is exempt from FOI” etc.


  49. StewGreen says:

    Fault on Radio4’s schedule page
    it links to a version of Nick Robinson’s Political Thinking page
    The working one is

    The topic was of course COP 26
    The fourth Global Warming agenda pushing prog I spotted today
    There is a complete news page about the prog