How will the Far Left anti British BBC greet the birth of a new State – The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan ? As the BBC is largely supportive of all things Muslim – or ignores – at best – crimes committed in the name of Islam – it may welcome it as a new friend .
Current affairs programmes will greet taliban spokesmen with due regard – unlike – of course – anyone from a disapproved political view . Further – will the BBC continue to give overwhelming support to Joe Biden – who is responsible for the current turmoil ?
Weekend Thread 21 August 2021
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Despite a lot of bad publicity about Biden and his approval rating falling to below 50% he is now recovering and since the nadir, he is .5% higher than he was.
No one ever went bust underestimating the bad taste of the American people.
Thoughtful
How reliable are approval ratings?
approval rating?
Is that true or did you see it on YouGov?
Fear not though… I see Ice Cream Nancy is is busting a gut to incense the average American.
$100 to $29k a seat
tin-eared hardly covers it.
I wonder if any amusing photos will emerge from Kamala’s sudden jolly to Singapore and Vietnam?
elsewhere:
re: how many Americans stuck in Afghanistan
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/
Typical Taliban fighters who sent the USA woke forces running out of Afghanistan.
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/e97f7c58f74e5a78b5d3e6cfdad6e787c753c54a/0_333_5000_3000/master/5000.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=2fa1c67ddbed72ec74dd992225a17e37
Shame on you Biden! I hope your nation never forgives you for this craven cowardice.
The second highest number of views on our BBC News Website –
“The NI inventor who saved thousands of lives”
“The plane ejector seat has saved more than 7,600 lives to date”.
“It was invented in 1944 by an engineer from Northern Ireland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-northern-ireland-58274204
1. BBC features of Woke Garbage has no interest to anyone (other than our BBC).
2. Why does our BBC keep mentioning NI? If the inventor had been from England, would our BBC have referred to it? Of course not.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-northern-ireland-58274204
The Germans first used ejection seats during WW2.
1942: At the height of World War II, German test pilot Helmut Schenck becomes the first person known to use an ejection seat to successfully exit his aircraft in an emergency situation.
Schenck, testing a Heinkel He-280 jet fighter, was in tow behind a conventionally powered aircraft when his plane iced up, making it impossible to start his engines. He jettisoned his canopy and activated the seat. Powered by compressed gas, the seat catapulted him clear of the aircraft.
Schenck was the first to use this method of exiting his aircraft in an emergency. Another Heinkel pilot had previously ejected successfully under test conditions.
Also, the Germans were the first and only to use parachutes in WW1. The life of Hermann Goring was saved by a parachute.
Ironically, our Martin-Baker ejection seats saved the lives of many, many German Starfighter pilots in the 1960’s.
Let’s not mention the corrupt purchase of these aircraft by the Germans from the USA… The UK had a better option for them.
Sorry Dover.
We brits used parachutes to escape from observation balloons when under attack.
The German pilots didn’t like the parachutes as they sat on them and they couldn’t feel the aircraft behaviour ….hence flying by the seat of your pants.
As for the lightning fantastic performance….. but as with lots of British aircraft such as VC10 etc designed specifically for British requirements.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the VC10 – the fastest ever subsonic airliner – was designed to meet the requirements of BOAC, who then didn’t want to buy it in large numbers when it was delivered. Hence the belief among the British aircraft manufacturing industry that BOAC stood for “Boeing Only Airways Corporation.”
The first patent was 1916 apparently by 1916 by a man named Everard Calthrop
The Germans installed the first in WW2 and everyone copied them
https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/07/the-explosive-history-of-ejection-seats-is-a-history-of-innovation-and-close-calls.html
Dover,
It’s a story about an exhibition in the Ulster Folk and Transport Museum, a popular school trip and tourist attraction here, it might be of interest to some. I’m just glad they acknowledged that he was Northern Irish, even though they do lay it on a bit thick, as BBC NI often seem more interested in the Republic than their own country and seem to regard anyone who describes themselves as Northern Irish with pretentious contempt.
If something like this can instil a bit of national pride and generate some interest in real achievements that are often overlooked or have been forgotten then it can’t be a bad thing.
Harry Ferguson revolutionised farming by developing three-point linkage and the four-wheel drive systems later used in Land Rovers, while Frank Pantridge invented the portable defibrillator, a device that has saved countless lives. Milk chocolate, streetcars, discount department stores, mail-order businesses, artificial fertiliser, the safety lamp, the Kelvin scale, pneumatic tyres, electric tramways, the split atom, even Viagra and the penalty kick, all came from the minds of Ulstermen.
We’ll not mention the Titanic, but not a bad return for a wee country nobody really gives a shit about, even usually, no, especially, the bBbc.
Indeed Rich. But as you saw, our BBC abuse a perfectly good piece of British history to meet their anti-UK and anti-English agenda. Really sad in my view.
I agree Dover.
I can understand how, given our history and an indoctrinated culture of victimhood fueled by a diet of constant and blatantly deceitful propaganda, the Nationalist/ Republican community have become and will always be anti-British.
BBC NI has large numbers of employees from this community, they’ve risen to positions of influence within it, their bias and their agenda is clear.
Why there seem to be so many English, even those without any obvious Celtic heritage, who despise their own country and culture in a similar way is a lot more difficult for me to get my head around.
Because their man Bidet has wholly screwed up and revealed himself to be an absolute twat, the BBC are trying to cover all bases by resurrecting an article re Ruby Wax who interviewed a younger Trump before he was president and was less than respectful.
What a juvenile shit show and my God how they must fear Trump!
They would rather have the Taliban it seems.
I know people sneer at Biden
“Oh he’s senile”
just as other people said the same about Trump
But the truth is, his side won power (even if they didn’t win the election properly)
and the opposition don’t have much power until 2025
Its always a frustration when the observed facts cannot be linked to make a sensible story. Its even more frustrating when the thousands of so-called journalists at the BBC contribute absolutely nothing, despite their inflated resources.
So….how’s this.
The reason the Taliban walked into Kabul unopposed is that it was part of an overall agreement with the US.
The US allowed it to happen.
In return, the Taliban agreed to police (albeit in their pwn way) the outside of Kabul airport and crucially not to invade it until the end of the month. They also agreed not to aim missiles at aircraft taking off.
The reason a more managed withdrawal did not happen is because it was not part of the agreed plan.
Think of the alternative. The Taliban fight their way into Kabul, street by street sustaining losses. Many on the Afghan side, especially civilians, would be killed. The US knew the Afghan army and police could not be relied on to keep the Taliban out and the US did not want to engage the Taliban single-handed on an open-ended basis and in any case have been looking for a way out for years. So if the Taliban had fought their way in then the result would ultimately have been a fierce fight at the airport, during which no-one at all could be evacuated not least as transport aircraft were shot down.
So maybe it is no accident we are where we are – the least worst option. Minimal casualties, a lot of evacuations, the long-expected US withdrawal. It just looks a mess.
As a theory, I think it has some legs. The alternative cock-up theory is quite likely admittedly but does not explain the Taliban’s surprisingly accommodating attitude, short term at least.
Good post, Sluff.
My view is that the US overestimated the ability of the Afghan Army and the US underestimated the influence and mobility of the Taliban.
Those two errors led to us to being where we are now.
It is perhaps in the military interest of the Taliban to allow a full withdrawal by the allies. This will leave a clear and unobstructed field for them to engage with our BBC and lead a government influenced by the medium of dance and multi-culturalism. Gay rights will of course be taken to the highest level…
“Those two errors led to us to being where we are now”
Lone Ranger: “Tonto, we are surrounded by indians!”
Tonto: “Who this ‘we’, white man?”
The US didn’t overestimate, they simply estimated the wrong thing! The Afghan army like the US and British Army had so much ‘diversity’ training they can no longer be regarded as a credible functional army.
So they knew all about trannies gays wimmins rights and BLM but didn’t know how to fight!
As far as getting out from under Mohammedans is concerned – the ANZAC evacuation of Gallipoli comes to mind.
https://anzac100.initiatives.qld.gov.au/remember/evacuation-of-gallipoli/index.aspx
I can’t believe any agreement with the Taliban did not include provisions for a managed withdrawal. And even if it didn’t, they should have kept enough troops around to enforce it. The loss of so much American equipment is simply staggering. Billions of dollars worth – and all in the hands of extremist Muslim’s.
The bottom line is that Muslim’s do not want to fight other Muslim’s at the behest of non-Muslim’s. The Afghan army who did fight did so because they knew what would happen to them if they got caught. The true figure of how many soldiers have been executed will emerge later and be typical BBC minor articles which disappear quickly.
I think that Joe ordered everyone to get out as quickly as possible so he can stand up on the 20th year anniversary of 9/11 and tell the world about how he has brought all the troops back home and be showered with adulation by the MSM. I can quite imagine his unpleasant demeanour in the meetings telling people to get on with it. We get glimpses of the real Joe and he’s a nasty piece of work when he wants to be. Like Pelosi.
The Taliban just want the USA out now so they can seal it off and consolidate everything they have just been given. They know what kind of sh1t-storm they will get if they shoot down any aircraft with civilians on it and if they can get rid of the USA, they have a very bright future. They will be very useful for sending Jihadis our way to please China and Russia in the new world order which is creeping up on us. Joe just scored a spectacular own goal on that front.
Plus of course a lot of people will simply not make it to the airport and are destined to become clandestine bartering chips.
I wonder what will happen if the ISIS threat starts again. Maybe it will be Russias turn to go back in.
C’mon man, that was last week!
And the VP hasn’t been to Europe either.
Meanwhile BBC News, Comedy, Drama and Gardening is searching the archives for ‘dirt’ on Thatcher, Trump and Farrage, impartially ‘holdng power to account’.
Just looking at the BBC home page.
Not a single white male to be seen !.
Just a total of 16 Afghan women, a female BBC reporter, ‘Modi’ from India, 2 fat women doing COVID tests in NZ and, most repulsive of all, the cutest one the BBC could find of Kamala Harris who apparently is going on a ‘charm offensive’.
‘Must See’ has pictures of 2 African women and 2 white women, and ‘Full Story’ has one black woman and 4 black males.
It’s beyond ridiculous now.
It makes you think what is OfCom for ?
Tony Blair?
Hmmmm….
wondered why the vaccines haven’t been garnering much BBC attention.
https://dailysceptic.org/2021/08/22/latest-phe-data-shows-vaccine-effectiveness-down-to-just-15-in-the-over-50s-37-in-the-under-50s-deaths-cut-by-80-in-over-50s-but-just-12-in-under-50s/
No new thread yet, I hope he’s OK.
Apologies – late to put up the thread – if it was possible to cut and paste the last couple of hours ‘ comments I would .
‘You haven’t a real appreciation of Newspeak, Winston,’ he said almost sadly. ‘Even when you write it you’re still thinking in Oldspeak. I’ve read some of those pieces that you write in The Times occasionally. They’re good enough, but they’re translations. In your heart you’d prefer to stick to Oldspeak, with all its vagueness and its useless shades of meaning. You don’t grasp the beauty of the destruction of words. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?’
Winston did know that, of course. He smiled, sympathetically he hoped, not trusting himself to speak. Syme bit off another fragment of the dark-coloured bread, chewed it briefly, and went on:
‘Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.
– 1984, Orwell
Mustafa had the bodies of the knights decapitated and their bodies floated across the bay on mock crucifixes. In response, de Valette beheaded all his Turkish prisoners, loaded their heads into his cannons, and fired them into the Turkish camp.[citation needed]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Siege_of_Malta
Voltaire said: “Nothing is better known than the siege of Malta.” It undoubtedly contributed to the eventual erosion of the European perception of Ottoman invincibility, although the Mediterranean continued to be contested between Christian coalitions and the Muslim Turks for many years.[6]
Yesterday evening I hypothesised that the US and the Taliban had agreed a deal. In brief the Taliban would get Kabul unopposed if the US was given 2-3 weeks of clear passage to get its people and defined refugees out of the airport.
Today the BBC, quoting a Taliban spokesman about a possible extension to the evacuation, said this.
‘The Taliban told the BBC that any extension would violate an agreed deal’.
It’s not the first time this esteemed website (running costs near zero) has beaten the BBC ( running costs £4 bn per annum) to the news. And they are so totally useless that it won’t be the last.
As for an extension to the Aug31 deadline, dream on.
Almost a thousand in Kent today then. They’re just the ones we know about. They must be laughing their Gallic socks off in Paris. This household found out a long time ago that boycotting overrated Frog products is a stupendously simple and satisfying exercise.