Weekend Thread 28 August 2021

The Main Stream Media ( BBC) continues to avoid criticism of the Biden Disaster – by diverting attention to the human misery that he has caused . But – after all – it has backed him against President Trump for over a year so cannot turn on him – however much death and misery he has caused . Let’s hope our military gets out safely .

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288 Responses to Weekend Thread 28 August 2021

  1. taffman says:

    Under the present circumstances Great Britain should now look to its own home security. Control its borders and scrutinise all who attempt illegally entering. Deport all those that should not be here, otherwise there will be very heavy “lessons to be learned”.
    Very shortly there will be more Channel crossings and not all will be asylum seekers.


    • MarkyMark says:

      While we knew he would aim for the centre-right Republican’s candidacy, Barnier’s gone in hard on immigration, promising to “limit and have control over immigration”. Has he signed up for Cummings’ Substack consultancy services?

      “In these grave times, I have taken the decision and have the determination to stand… and be the president of a France that is reconciled, to respect the French and have France respected”



    • NCBBC says:

      We are trying to save a very large batch of “Interpreters”. Far far too many. But there is another side to this.

      The Taliban wants to arrest these interpreters and probably kill them. That is real bad we say.

      But lets consider, say China invaded the UK and occupied it. Subsequently, many thousands of regular Brits assisted the Chinese invasion force in various ways, including as interpreters.

      If the Chinese decided to leave the UK as the invasion was not worth it, what would be the reaction of us Brits? Will we let the collaborators escape with the Chinese or not?

      And on the others side, would the Chinese take them. They would argue that any Brit that betrayed his own country, they could never trust, and would likely betray them too.

      We are now asserting that Afghan Muslims who betrayed their own country, would not revert to Jihad, their main Islamic belief, when the time is right.


      • NCBBC says:

        Afghanistan is a failed state as Afghans are a primitive people who are neither educated or cultured to know how to be a state. Never have been. To make matters much worse, they are Muslims and so believe that god is mandating them to rape Infidel women.

        Ditto Somalia.

        Allowing these people into the West is a criminal act by our politicians. They are facilitating the mass gang rape of women and now young boys.


      • Banania says:

        Was an interpreter who worked for us in Afghanistan necessarily betraying his country? There were Afghans on both sides.


        • NCBBC says:

          We invaded Afghanistan. Therefore, from the victor Taleban POV, assisting us is treason.


  2. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Radio 4, 20 July 2021

    An interview with Lord Sumption about civil liberties contained statistics which were not challenged at the time.

    He said that ‘the virus has not killed over 100,000 people’ and that a large number have died with Covid but not of it.

    In England and Wales more than 120,000 death certificates have recorded Covid-19 as an underlying cause of death according to figures collated by the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

    Lord Sumption said that for older people, ‘at the age which they had reached, they would probably have died within a year’ anyway.

    Life expectancy before the pandemic for an 80 year old was 9 years for a man and 10 years for a woman.

    Lord Sumption said that ‘it’s a matter of hundreds and not thousands’ of deaths of people who were not in highly vulnerable groups with serious comorbidities on their death certificate.

    By the end of March 2021 the ONS says almost 16,000 deaths in England & Wales had been caused by Covid in cases where there were no other underlying conditions recorded on the death certificate.



    • taffman says:

      Someone has been telling ‘porky pies’ to instil fear into the people of this nation for the last two years ?


      • MarkyMark says:

        “By the end of March 2021 the ONS says almost 16,000 deaths in England & Wales had been caused by Covid in cases where there were no other underlying conditions recorded on the death certificate.” – BBC


        • StewGreen says:

          That’s supposed to debunk what Sumption said
          \\‘it’s a matter of hundreds and not thousands’ of deaths of people
          who were not in highly vulnerable groups with serious comorbidities on their death certificate.//
          They interpret that as one thing
          I interpret that as two sets
          i. Highly vulnerable groups eg Fatties and degrepids
          ii. People with serious comorbidies.

          Lord Sumption said that for older people, ‘at the age which they had reached, they would probably have died within a year’ anyway.

          Life expectancy before the pandemic for an 80 year old was 9 years for a man and 10 years for a woman.


          • StewGreen says:

            i. “Life expectancy before the pandemic for an 80 year old was 9 years for a man and 10 years for a woman”

            The BBC think that is a debunk for Sumption saying
            ii. \\ that for older people, ‘at the age which they had reached, they would probably have died within a year’ anyway.//

            The BBC are making the fallacy of comparing Apples with Oranges

            Group i . Is ALL people over 80
            and they do have an average of 9 more years
            Some of them will have sailed past cancer & dementia risks and have another 20 years to go.
            Some of them will be on their last legs cos they are riddled with cancer/dementia etc that section is a second group

            The over 80s who died from Covid didn’t come from that first group.
            they came from the second section
            And top experts like Spiegelhalter have always said that those people had a few months to a year of natural life left, on average.


            • StewGreen says:

              Bottom-line you can have general info about a large group
              like their average life expectancy
              However you cannot use that general info to make firm statement a small subset of that group.

              On average the people in the bar who are wearing dresses are born-females
              However those 3 sat in the corner could be born-men who happen to be wearing dresses


              • NCBBC says:

                However you cannot use that general info to make firm statement a small subset of that group.

                Or take decisions whether to give medication of not, as the person is within a few months of dying anyway.

                NHS is run on socialist principles. Payer or non-payer is treated the same. That means there will be rationing.


    • Jeff says:

      I’ve mentioned before that my uncle’s death has been put down to covid.

      He was 82 years old, had Parkinson’s Disease and stage 4 cancer.
      He had refused any treatment other than palliative care.

      He wasn’t just loitering in God’s waiting room, he was banging on the bloody door…

      And yet, officially, he’s a “covid death”.


      • StewGreen says:

        Yes FullFact turned up like clumsy bouncers to do an enthusiastic factcheck

        which was SIMPLISTIC
        whereas Sumption’s arguments were COMPLEX

        eg “Look 120,000 died OF, here’s a 120K death certicates”
        Yes I accept that
        but can we look at why deaths from Alzheimers/dementia are 30K lower than expected
        and discuss whether 30K who were virtually dead from Alzheimers/dementia were tipped over by Covid, so aren’t really pure Covid deaths

        There is a thread with BBC audio of their own expert the day after
        And there and in the Fullfact Thread 2 people turn up with an interesting query
        Why to FullFact claim “15,883 deaths recorded with no pre-existing condition in England and Wales alone”
        Whereas the actual NHS England data page says 3,633 or 3,651 deaths in people with no pre-existing conditions all the way up to July 2021
        .. https://twitter.com/9thfloor/status/1420357050626936834
        .. https://twitter.com/bundle_of_joy69/status/1417520393414402050

        I accept that many of the pre-existing illness may pretty mild asthma or diabetes.


  3. G.W.F. says:

    It now appears that there was only one bomb at Kabul airport. This was detonated by a suicide bomber.
    Wishing Biden good luck in tracking the bomber down and punishing him


    • MarkyMark says:



    • Fedup2 says:

      Red mist


    • MarkyMark says:

      Best intelligence in the World – oh dear.


      • Scroblene says:

        And they never told the old fool what was going on?

        Perhaps he forgot!

        Perhaps they decided he was clearly useless and didn’t bother…

        Luckily, the awful bbbc don’t try and go for the US Military, as they know that they’ll get stuck like pigs at a suitable time, so they just take pics of kids using a long lens and expect the old dears over here to whimper and cry and say ‘awwwwww’, while the WH does bugger all.

        Well done Beeboids, you’re keeping the old fool in the WH, which is better for a few thick US citizens, (Sopes included), as we cannot even fear what will happen when Kamillia Parp-n-ride will do after she’s stopped her inane giggling.


  4. MarkyMark says:

    Shhhhh …. Anbar (IraqiNews.com) Security source from the pro-government paramilitary troops in Anbar province have indicated presence of Islamic State members disguised in shepherds clothes in the northern regions of Ramadi city.


    Shhh ….. Liverpool council finds 24 adult asylum seekers who are posing as children as it launches legal fight to stop almost £1million in taxpayers cash being spent on their care



    • JamesArthur says:

      Thanks for that Marky
      Nothing on BBC about it! What a surprise…
      Makes me fume!


      • Rob in Cheshire says:


        Maybe there is nothing on the BBC about these stories because they date to 2018. Marky Mark has a habit of posting old stories as if they are new. I don’t know why, but it’s an annoying habit.


  5. MarkyMark says:

    22 Lost in Manchester (c) Theresa May …..

    Two British nationals, and the child of another British national, died in the explosion at Kabul airport, the foreign secretary has said.

    Dominic Raab said two others were also injured in the suicide bomb attack on Thursday.

    “It is a tragedy that as they sought to bring their loved ones to safety in the UK they were murdered by cowardly terrorists,” he said.

    Mr Raab said he was “deeply saddened” by the deaths.



  6. tomo says:

    The Biden disaster ?

    that Joe f’d up only comes as a surprise if you have assumed that the DNC and their mates in the swamp wouldn’t emplace a corrupt mentally impaired dimwit in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue – now that Joe is self evidently falling apart – one might think that they might revisit he selection criteria for his running mate before Joe drowns in the East Garden pond after evading his minders… – but … no … Harris is still positioned to walk in – if you think she might do better I suggest a quick look at her performance against Tulsi Gabbard in the DNC TV debates – at least it’s obvious that #3 in line is a deranged poisonous old bat used to having her hand in the till.

    I’m wondering if Joe’s got a 24 hour watch on him and a radio locator like my next door neighbour sadly had to with his unfortunate wife.

    It’s getting sad and pathetic watching Biden perform.


    • Scroblene says:

      The alternative is that when he buggers off, and Kamillia takes over, with the awful Pelosi scrawning in the background, the US will be absolutely stuffed!

      Well done Dominion! Impeached yet?


  7. MarkyMark says:

    New Netflix Film coming soon?

    Several thousand anti-Taliban fighters are reported to be holding out against the Taliban in a remote valley with a narrow entrance – little more than 30 miles or so from the capital Kabul.

    It’s not the first time the dramatic and imposing Panjshir Valley has been a flashpoint in Afghanistan’s recent turbulent history – having been a stronghold against Soviet forces in the 1980s, and the Taliban in the ’90s.

    The group holding out there now – the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan (NRF) – recently reminded the world of the valley’s strength.

    “The Red Army, with its might, was unable to defeat us… And the Taliban also 25 years ago… they tried to take over the valley and they failed, they faced a crushing defeat,” Ali Nazary, the NRF’s head of foreign relations, told the BBC.


    Today, the valley has hydroelectric dams and a wind farm. The US helped in the construction of roads and a radio tower that receives signals from Kabul. The former US airbase at Bagram – originally built by the Soviets in the 1950s – is also a short distance from the mouth of the valley.


  8. MarkyMark says:

    Not so superior then …

    “If Taliban warlords launch an assault, they will of course face staunch resistance from us… Yet we know that our military forces and logistics will not be sufficient,” he wrote in his Washington Post article.

    “They will be rapidly depleted unless our friends in the West can find a way to supply us without delay.”



  9. MarkyMark says:

    Afghan music school falls silent under Taliban rule
    Tiffany Wertheimer, BBC News


  10. vlad says:

    Poor old beeb: how to report the disaster that is Afghanistan, how to spin it?

    So many circles to square:

    Trump = very bad, always.
    Biden = very good – until yesterday.
    Trump’s withdrawal = bad.
    Biden’s withdrawal = good.
    Boris = bad.
    Raab = bad.
    Starmer = good.
    Islam = very good.
    Islam a’ la Taliban = meh, maybe not.
    Wimmin’s rights = very good.
    Girls’ education = very good, and well worth our troops dying for.
    Intervention in third world countries = bad, unless for wimmin and girls.
    Colonial wars = very bad, but see above.
    Old Taliban = bad.
    New Taliban = not so bad, really.
    Our enemies = good.
    Woldwide geo-political strategy and Western interests = what? This is about little girls’ education.
    Immigration = always good.
    Muslim immigration = very very good.
    Islamic terrorism = nothing to do with Islam.
    Importation of Islamic terrorism = shut up you racist islamophobe.

    Poor old beeb.


  11. vlad says:

    Reposted from previous thread on Fedup’s recommendation that it deserves a view.

    Andrew Lawrence sums up the state of the world in 2 minutes.


  12. StewGreen says:

    US guy RuinedLeon speaking about UK rainbow police cars


  13. vlad says:

    BBC News currently fawn-icating over Britain’s first all-black Shakespeare theatre company.


    But hang on, isn’t that racist? Not to mention cultural appropriation.


    • Northern Dreamer says:

      Yo blud, to be or not to be, dat is da question, innit?

      The beautiful language of the Bard of Stratford, east London.


    • Zelazek says:


      It’s all-black AND all-women.

      I’m not against it. It’s a free country.

      Few blacks go to theatre productions of Shakespeare. And that is the problem they want to address. What to do about it? More blacks might attend performances if Macbeth is played by a black woman rather than a white man, they think. Personally, I foresee a lot of problems. For example, when Lady Macbeth calls Macbeth’s manhood into question and thereby shames him into committing regicide, that is going to look and sound rather stupid. I would say it might confuse a black man attending a theatre performance for the first time.

      The reason black people don’t attend the theatre is because it is a white European art form. I can understand why they are not interested but unlike the wokerati I do not see that as a problem. If any black becomes interested in Shakespeare, there is nothing to stop him going to see a production or reading the plays. It takes a bit of work to get to grips with Shakespeare but we all have to do that. And it is very rewarding when you have made the effort. But there is no shortcut.

      The irony is that most productions of Shakespeare these days are full of blacks anyway but the black audience is still staying away. Are blacks only going to attend the theatre when every role is played by a black woman?

      Another doomed woke venture, in my opinion.


      • G says:

        “Shakespeare these days are full of blacks anyway but the black audience is still staying away”

        Surely that is not the point? The imbalance of black (preferred) to white is meant to assure the viewer and indigenous that blacks are on their way to taking over. Thanks Black Broadcasting Corporation.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Somehow I suspect this rubbish will be supported by various grants, not by anything so crass as ticket sales.


    • JohnC says:

      No – it’s hypocrisy and double-standards on an epic scale.


  14. StewGreen says:

    of6:15pm ITV local news
    not local, national syndicated #PRasNews for #GreenBlob
    promoting a dream called Regenerative Farming.
    The PR was laid on thick.

    They claimed that today making nitrogen fertilizer makes a lot of CO2 etc.
    Actually some nitrates is simply mined from the Atacama Desert (I worked there).
    Their idea is you give up the fertilizer and just use cow manure which can even sequestrate some CO2 in the soil.

    i. If you give up modern efficient farming
    you need more land
    So end up using up more nature.
    ii. Farmers don’t buy fertilizer to let it flow away
    so actually get more efficient anyway
    iii The item was #FakeNews cos it missed the big context that Regenerative Farming is less efficient so makes food more expensive.

    Another PR tweet https://www.twitter.com/SupergenBioHub/status/1431258844173324292


  15. JamesArthur says:

    Did anyone listen to the R4 discussion – sorry one sided diatribe- on free speech. I was driving and managed 10mins in which time the presenters managed to confirm that freespeech is just a term to let racists, the far right and facists say what they want…maybe it got better but I think they were truing to get back at GBNews…not very successfully. BBC numpties paid for by the masses ..but not me!


  16. Fedup2 says:

    James – a caught a bit of some one who runs something called – I think Tiktok – who with pride – described how his outfit started taking down discussion threads they didn’t agree with .

    There was a comparison with a party where the host decided who came in – and who didn’t . I couldn’t see that as a good comparison because a party has limited access anyway ….

    I couldn’t take it so turned it off to listen to the lovely Diesel engine in my car pumping out pollution and busily changing the weather….


  17. Thoughtful says:

    Just when you thought Bidens incompetence (or maybe it isn’t and it’s more sinister) couldn’t get any worse, it turns out that the US has handed over details of all the Afghan people who aided and assisted the Americans in their time in the country, and also details what they did for them.
    The Americans claim they did this so the Taleban would allow them to pass through to the airport for extraction, but what they have done in reality is handed over a kill list to their enemies.

    It’s hard to think of a more incompetent thing to have done, but when you are dealing with Socialists every which way is incompetence!
    The nutters encouraged Afghan Gays to be out and proud and flew the rainbow flag in Kabul – a more provocative action is difficult to contemplate, now those Gays are being hunted down by Radical Muslims who are following the instruction book!


  18. vlad says:

    Candace Owens currently speaking to Farage about getting red pilled about the Left and Trump, whom she supports enthusiastically.

    She’s female, black, smart, eloquent and photogenic… yet somehow I don’t think she’ll be invited to share her views on the BBC any time soon.

    If you support Trump, you ain’t black.


  19. Sluff says:

    Uk government are advising that they have evacuated over 4000 British nationals from Kabul.

    OK so I’m thick but why oh why were 4000 British nationals actually in Kabul?

    I mean, it’s not an obvious place to go on hols.


    • Scroblene says:

      Yes, I wondered about that, Sluffy!

      We may have some sort of Ambassador there, just to keep the gin imports legal, but 4,000 is an awful lot of Brits, so maybe they’re buying the legal opium for our morphine or possibly a few grapes for Chateau Kabul?


    • Lefty Wright says:

      Well, I’m an ancient old git and my memory might be slightly jaded but I seem to remember that, at the time, US President Dubya Bush and British PM Tone B.Liar concluded that because it appeared that the 9/11 atrocity was planned by a certain Mr Osama Bin Liner who just happened to be of Saudi Arabian descent, that it would perhaps be more appropriate to apportion blame to and invade and destroy another middle eastern dictatorship namely that of Iraq, even though this country’s extremely nasty boss Mr Saddam Hussein had previously been our mid east buddy.
      This is the event that begun the destruction of my lifelong faith in the Socialist Creed. For that, at least, I must be thankful to Mr B.Liar
      Dubya’s Dad was just is bad. He didn’t finish the job.


    • Thoughtful says:

      Thy’re absolutely essential personnel like ‘Diversity’ officers (political officers like the Soviet Socialists used to have) gay rights activists wimmins rights reps, etc etc.


    • StewGreen says:

      “4000 British nationals” = 3990 Afghanis who have British passports ?

      Some from coming in as an illegal and claiming asylum.


  20. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    When they say ‘British’….. I don’t think it’s a bunch of Geordies or Cockneys.


    • brexiteerkent says:

      Exactly. ‘ British’ people going back for family weddings, get togethers etc etc.. Or to bring back their new Burkha wearing ‘British’ brides .. I wonder if any of the ‘British’ people referred to speak English?


  21. Sluff says:

    Just been watching the Paralympics highlights on C4.
    Amazing. No dross. No interviews. No sentimentality. And especially no talking heads and padding,
    More action in 25 minutes than in the 90 minutes of the BBC Olympics ‘highlights’ programmes two weeks ago.
    And no mention of afletics, runnin’, jumpin’, swimmin’ and divin’ in sight.


  22. Philip_2 says:

    I read this in the TELEGRAPH letters today and pass it on as thought provoking: If it were true, its a distinct possibility why the BBC still exists in its current form. Immune from change or question.

    Here is a chilling quote from a senior government advisor (Jacques Attali)** in 1981:

    We will find something or cause it, a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the fat, it doesn’t matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated.

    We will have taken care to have planned the treatment, a treatment that will be the solution.

    The selection of idiots will thus be done on its own: they will go to the slaughterhouse on their own.

    I was never much of a NHS clapper and often wondered where the source of the ‘pandemic’ was (if not China blamed) was just a bit too convenient to exploit by the left wing governments. And they have the liberal stooges (as fools a plenty) in the media, such as BBC cheerleaders of lock down. But did they know?

    ** Jacques Atteli ideas fit perfectly into the left dream of dire UN Agenda 21 predictions of doom that started in 1980’s leading to climate change projections (all hysteria) and finally the ‘pandemic’ which arrived conveniently in 2021. Was this (pandemic) planned?

    Jacques Attali a bilderberg member, who was then an advisor to Francois Mitterrand. This is what he wrote in 1981. "We will find or cause something a pandemic targeting certain people…We will have taken care of having panned the treatment, a treatment that will be the solution." from conspiracy

    As I write this the compulsory vaccination of year 12 kids at school without parents agreement or veto is being talked about. This is the reality as children are not affected unless very gravelly ill already. Are they trying to kill the infirm for a ‘brave new world’?
    Why do parents have to fight to protect children from drugs?

    I have read of the ‘brave new world’, of BBC land. And I am not sure its the right one to follow. Its will up there with the BBC and George Orwell’s future predictions of a western corporate culture of 1984. Something along the lines of the BIDEN administration and crooked companies line up with an EU doctrine merge.

    Or you can choose another culture, such as:
    The EU has a mono communal culture, China has one and Russia has another. And now Afghanistan has been thrown in for cultural diversity. I suspect NOT part of the plan. Other than that there is nothing in it for the common man. Communism is not our friend nor is anything that Biden does is going to be good for America, and even worse for the UK as a free nation. I also heard today on an ISRAELI report that the DOUBLE VACCINATED and most vulnerable to infection AND serious illness.

    So beware out there. All is not it seems. I trust the state less than I did before the pandemic. Its a BBC script.

    The world is heading back in time. Back to 1784 if we are to ever meet CO2 targets. And then others blame Biden, Obama and Blair.

    They all converge on this Brave New World, that never existed before at any time and is an (we are all too stupid to realise it) an impossible dream of utopia. They Call it progress, but its going backwards in time. The BBC are there somewhere, not sure where, but they are bit part players on the world stage of drama and hysteria.


    • Thoughtful says:

      Eugenics was a popular movement around the begining of the previous century, and regardless of the fact it formed the basis of the Socialist murder in Europe, even Churchill supported it, because it posited Darwins theory of survival of the fittest.

      Oh brave new world that has such people in ‘t Shakespear The Tempest


      • pugnazious says:

        Eugenics….called ‘abortion’ today…both for social reasons and to control the number of people born with birth defects and disabilities….the BBC fully supports ‘abortion’ and loudly berates and condemns those who wish to control it…such as Trump.


    • Lefty Wright says:

      Trust your instincts. They are rarely wrong. However, it’s rather like driving a car. If your instincts are wrong you could well be dead or injured but who amongst us considers that prospect before tightening our seat belts?


    • pugnazious says:

      They are using covid to terrorize us into obedient submission…they are already priming us for another lockdown. Note the news that came out that a BBC journalist did die due to the vaccine…next day the BBC was reporting a study suspiciously ‘just out’ that said vaccines were incredibly safe even though a ‘very small’ number of people died….clearly someone somewhere [government nudge unit] generated this ‘study’ and had it released to counter the inconvenient news that the vaccine had killed someone.

      Note the government totally controls the figures for infections and deaths…note that the ONS changed the way it reported flu deaths in order to reduce its significance as previously they had often been comparable to covid deaths.
      It makes you wonder where the government keeps on finding all these 100’s of thousands of people who are being infected weekly….with so many vaccinated and so many having been infected surely we must run out of people to infect?

      Climate change is being used as the new covid….Boris always claimed it was a worse emergency than covid…therefore justifying extreme and radical measures to tackle it…taking us back to the stoneage…and the BBC is the most powerful and influential propaganda platform out there spreading the message for the government.

      All about ‘taking back control’…from the People and giving it back to the ‘elites’…they now have the excuse to control everything we do, eat, buy….banning foods they don’t like [meat, sugar, salt], banning travel either by car or plane [subtly done by making it very, very difficult rather than obviously banning it], smartmeters to allow them to know everything about your life and to let them ration electricity, digital cash to spy on your spending and eventually ration what you can buy…go to the till and it won’t allow you to buy something…either because the government links to your medical records show you’re too fat or because you’ve had your share that week. ID cards introduced by stealth…ie covid passports….which means the government will know where you go and when as you register at the door of the shop or venue….and things like the NHS app [no doubt one day to be compulsory] will log who you meet and where.

      The government seeks total knowledge of your life, spending, movements, health, people you meet and your politics.


      • G says:


        “The government seeks total knowledge of your life, spending, movements, health, people you meet and your politics.” Yes, but which Government………….


  23. taffman says:

    Question: how much bias will the ‘Conservatives’ take before they close down the BBC and OfCom?
    The Conservatives had such a majority in the last election they have become a dictatorship and issue diktats.
    The Bias of the BBC may only a ruse to create a false opposition to the dictatorship we are now subject to.
    Next time consider voting for UKIP or The Reform Party.
    “When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”


    • Thoughtful says:

      any amount of it because the cowards are terrified. Back in the 1930s you might have asked just how many statements and proofs of the Nazi’s intent would the torys take before they took action, and the answer is an infinite amount so long as they could hold onto their social position.
      They are the ultimate chancers betrayers cowards expedients and morally bankrupt priviliged a holes. Once in a while by chance someone by the grace of God has come forward to bail them out of the latrine they wallow in gladly, but they have fought tooth and nail to stop them.
      They will do nothing to the BBC, because of who they are cowardly useless expedient incompetents.


  24. Sluff says:

    The BBC are in full-on sentimentality mode.
    Endless features of individuals who are fearful of the Taleban and Afghans who want to leave the country. Get out the hankies.
    But given the ease with which the Taleban took over, and the execrable melting away of the army and police, not to say the surrender monkeys among the general population utterly ignoring the threats to their womenfolk, , my hunch is that for every BBC featured whinger there are 5-10 Afghans who secretly or openly and for whatever reason are quite satisfied with the Taleban takeover.
    This is a reality lost in all the current MSM noise, and a decent reason why we may as well get out and leave them to it.


    • Lefty Wright says:

      Taliban take over Afghanistan? You ain’t seen nuffin’ yet. GREAT BRITAIN HERE WE COME! You have already been psychologically defeated by our very useful in house British idiots in your mass media so you will be a push over. Ha H Ha.
      Mustapha Krapp.


    • JohnC says:

      It’s the latest trick in their drive to make us like Muslim’s.
      Recently they have started concentrating on emotional reporting of Muslim ‘victims’ rather than the facts of what happened with the very obvious intention to make us feel closer and empathise with them.
      The elephant in the room is that the root of the problem – that Muslim’s are conditioned by their religion to be racist and predjudiced against non-muslims – will not change and so everything will stay the same.
      But an office full of BBC far-Left virtue-signallers will be heaping praise on each other for doing it.


    • G says:


      The “British Passport Holders” left in Afghanistan i.e. Afghans, will be primed as terrorists before being ‘voluntarily’ returned to the UK by the so-helpful Taliban the Government are, “negotiating” with. A wonderful opportunity………..


  25. Fedup2 says:

    I’ve been trying to think through the next 48 hours . If we are lucky – a transport plane won’t be shot down . If we are lucky there won’t be anymore suicide attacks . But for the Enemy – it’s beyond temptation .

    Will the finger of the MSM BBC ever be turned toward Biden ? You know – I really don’t think so . They will concentrate on the ‘plight’ of those ‘left behind ‘. I reckon this will be done from a distance because the BBC will be in Doha and Islamabad reporting from hotel rooms .

    Then maybe we will hear of hostages – US or UK – then a whole new story begins – but it will still distract from Biden . Hope I’m wrong on this .the West claims to have ‘leverage ‘ on the taliban – this must be a lie fed to us .

    Anything bad happening is Afgee after we leave can be laid on the hostility of the West by the taliban …


    • Lefty Wright says:

      I have found that my own instincts are far more accurate than the reports from the Broadcasting on Behalf of China.


    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      ‘Anything bad happening in Afgee after we leave can be laid on the hostility of the West by the taliban …’

      Anything bad happening as a result of the Afgee fiasco after we leave can be laid on the hostility of the West TOWARDS the (cuddly) Taliban.

      In other words, as whitees, it’s all OUR fault… or maybe Tango Trump’s (although, as he’s permatan orange, rather than white, not sure how that works, but it does)… it always is OUR fault, everything is … if you have the mental age of a three year old, lashing out at ‘daddy’, when you stub your toe.


    • JohnC says:

      I don’t think it will happen : the Taliban will wait patiently until midnight on 31 August then they will take over the airfield and all flights will stop. As will all information coming out of the country. And I don’t think it would be possible for ISIS to get an anti-aircraft missile to the right place to launch it.

      Though it may well happen if the USA try to hold the airport beyond the deadline.

      Then the killing and abuse of women will start in earnest – putting the BBC hypocrites in a quandry about whether to keep portraying them as our cuddly friends or the monsters they are.


  26. Thoughtful says:


    Just another interesting few give aways from the cowardly useless incompetent Tories on the future of the BBC and how they have zero intention of ending the iniquitous TV tax.

    ” I think this debate about how we sustain public service broadcasting is only just beginning.’ ”

    Sustaining the BBC is the policy of the far Left Tories


  27. Northern Voter says:

    A programme never to be seen on the bBBC, Dennis Norden presents “It’ll be all white on the night”


    • Lefty Wright says:

      Northern Voter
      I remember that there wasn’t an eye batted when, many years ago before the Communist takeover the now Broadcasting on Behalf of the Communist party showed the snooker series POT BLACK which I used to enjoy .
      Is the word B—K still allowed or should we use the term “ball of colour” when referring to a ball that is unwhite?
      I am confused.com


  28. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC news at 10 spent 14 minutes on Afgee. Biden was not mentioned once . Then it went on about a US report on the origins of the Chines virus – which was the first time Biden was mentioned .

    Will there any accountability for the Biden Disaster ? God – the BBC even tried to put blame on Nut Nut – who has has much control of events as you – dear reader .


    • Tabs says:

      I saw a tiny bit of BBC News about 7pm. The voiceover for the piece about Afghan air evacuations said, “this is the largest air evacuation in recent history”.

      Recent history?!? I get the feeling the journalist couldn’t be bothered to Google other evacuations for comparison.


      • pugnazious says:

        History is a moveable feast for the BBC….slavery started only with the arrival of whitey on African shores…climate change only started with the industrial revolution…in Britain by white people [guilty!]….coal mines were only closed from 1979 onwards by the evil Thatcher, all politics stopped between 1997 and 2010 with nothing to report…but now everything is referenced ‘…since 2010…’ as in ‘Since 2010 everything has gone to wrack and ruin under the nasty party’.


        • JimS says:

          “History is a moveable feast for the BBC”

          Geography too. Absolutely vital that we stay in ‘Europe’ yet the place never figured on the BBC News, short of a natural disaster or reporting ‘stern warnings’ from the miraculously united ’27’ that we were bad members of the EU. (There was never any dissent in ‘Europe’).

          But they hung on every scripted word of Obama, as if we cared.

          Listening to the BBC one could be forgiven for thinking that the Commonwealth had gone the way of the Empire. Canada, Australian and New Zealand – nothing.

          It’s only since the arrival of our new brown-overlords that India has figured, (Why? Aren’t Mr & Mrs Singh ‘British’? Not when it comes to cricket!).


    • JohnC says:

      The Left are terrified the end-game for this is Trump back in power. If Biden is removed and put back in his pickle jar then the vile Harris becomes President, we will witness the worst government of the USA in history.

      There are no lower limits to what the BBC and the Left will do or cover up to stop Trump getting back in.


  29. JohnC says:

    I see – as I predicted yesterday – all mention of the terrorist attack has disappeared from the BBC front page now. Though they didn’t actually call it a terrorist attack, even though members of ISIS did it. Over 100 people ripped to shreds and lay bleeding to death among the carnage and it’s already under the carpet because it’s not in line with the ‘Protect Biden’ agenda.

    Anyway, the real reason I called was this:
    Austrian ex-far-right leader Strache guilty of corruption
    How unusual I thought to use the political leaning of a politician to announce him. An ‘impartial’ BBC would just tell us his name and – maybe – what party he belonged to. It’s entirely inappropriate to refer to him as that in the main headline.

    Then in the article, they use the phrase ‘far-right’ no less than 6 times whereas they use the name of his ‘Freedom party’ just once. I guarantee you will not find a similar ratio in any article about the far-Left.

    I can tell they are seething with spite now at the BBC. I think this fisaco with Biden and the crumbling presidency has put them in a bad mood : the world is discovering the extent of their hypocrisy and lies.


  30. pugnazious says:

    Couldn’t help but think that Tim Black in Spiked could also be describing the BBC ‘multicultural nation builders’ who try to rebuild Britain with a brown tinge whilst not having a clue about our own country and what the consequences will be of their ethnic experimenting as he writes here…

    ‘The words of Douglas Lute, an army general who served as the White House’s so-called war tsar under Bush and Obama, are damning. ‘We were devoid of a fundamental understanding of Afghanistan’, he said in 2015. ‘We didn’t know what we were doing… We didn’t have the foggiest notion of what we were undertaking.’

    But this wasn’t just ignorance. It was a necessary ignorance – a product of a Western nation-building elite convinced it knows what is best for foreign peoples, on whose behalf it wages wars and builds new nations. That certainty now lies in tatters in Afghanistan, the graveyard of experts.’

    …and as Andrew Neil describes the green loons in Scotland…it could be the BBC he describes….


    ‘For the first time ever, the Greens are in government in a part of the United Kingdom, thanks to a deal First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has struck between her ruling Scottish National Party and the Scottish Greens.

    And these are not your average Greens. The Scottish Greens are a radical-Left amalgam of 21st-century hard-line eco-activism and old-fashioned Marxist class war — anti-business, anti-capitalist, anti-monarchy, anti-individual freedom, anti-car, anti-UK, anti-wealth and, above all, anti-economic growth.’

    Or indeed Brendan O’Neil’s takedown of Paul Mason’s book…who might be out of the BBC but, batshit crazy though he might be, espouses their views perfectly…


    ‘Let’s start at the beginning, where Mason asks a burning question: ‘What if the Nazis invented a time machine?’
    Mason says, our time-travelling brownshirts would realise that all is not lost. They’d look at India and see a country run by a Hindu extremist. They’d see far-right parties doing well in Europe. They would go online and see ‘a cartoon frog saying “Honk Honkler”’ and this would ‘make them smile’. I’m not making this up. This is in the book. And then they’d twig: fascism lives!’

    Is that not the perfect description of the BBC and its worldview?…the most dangerous organisation in Britain.


  31. pugnazious says:

    Biden sinks his head into his hands as his incredibly bungled and disastrously, badly planned exit from Afghanistan plays out….and yet the BBC barely notices.

    A world changing event that looks like having huge strategic consequences as China, Russian, Iran and Pakistan move in to take advantage and IS bounce back…as the Taliban reportedly free thousands of IS prisoners…surely that would mean the US going back into Afghanistan as the Taliban are once again giving a safe haven to terrorists….Biden now saying America will concentrate not on counter-insurgnecy but on anti-terrorism. More cruise missiles or boots back on the ground?

    The BBC is giving Biden a very, very easy ride…..you’d barely know he’d made the biggest blunder of just about any US Presidency…if it had been Trump?


    • JimS says:

      The greatest threat to the USA and the UK is from right-wing terrorists, i.e. anyone who voted for Trump or Brexit.

      ISIS and Muslims in general are no threat, as long as we welcome them with open arms and submit to their every demand.

      Not sure how that will work out for the alphabet people, they will probably be thrown under a bus, or off a roof, whichever is easiest.


      • JohnC says:

        The greatest threat to Western civilisation is the Left.
        It’s how they all fail : the liberals take control then the civilisation is destroyed by all the others who play by natures rules.


  32. JohnC says:

    What kind of idiot headline is this ?.
    Afghanistan: US drone strike ‘kills Isis-K militant’
    One ?.
    And how much did that drone strike + missile cost ?.
    I can only imagine we are supposed to read this and come away with the idea that Biden has it all under control and is avenging the 170 killed by suicide bombers.
    The giveaway that this is a propaganda piece is hidden in the deliberate misleading BBC wording. At the beginning they say ‘and no civilians had died.’. The actual quote they wrote that from is tacked on the very end (for fact-checker proofing) and reads ‘We know of no civilian casualties.’.
    Not the same thing at all BBC.


    • Banania says:

      If he was only a militant, why did they kill him? They were surely looking for a terrorist.


  33. JimS says:

    The government has announced plans to ban single-use plastic cutlery, plates and polystyrene cups in England as part of what it calls a “war on plastic”.

    What are you guys doing?

    “On average, each person in England uses 18 single-use plastic plates and 37 single-use plastic items of cutlery every year, according to government figures. ”

    About 25 years ago I bought six place settings of plastic cutlery in the US. I am still working through the box!

    Environment Secretary George Eustice said everyone had “seen the damage that plastic does to our environment” and it was right to “put in place measures that will tackle the plastic carelessly strewn across our parks and green spaces and washed up on beaches”.

    Solve the ‘careless use’ by banning them altogether?

    Still, look on the bright side, using that logic we won’t be seeing those blue and white breath-restrictors anymore!


  34. Scroblene says:

    Every supermarket carpark is strewn with old masks! They’re all around the place here, and we’re only a big village/small town, so what it’s like in Londonistan, I cannot bear to figure!

    But as I suppose the place is also littered with people who are told by their ‘husbands’ to wear masks all the time, not many citizens even notice – or even care!


  35. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – it is 1984 already, again

    7 a.m. News: ‘A drone strike has been carried out and an ISIS planner has been killed.’

    switch to correspondent
    ‘A drone strike has been carried out and an ISIS planner is thought to have been killed.’


  36. AsISeeIt says:

    The old Labour supporting Mirror tops the BBC’s line up of frontpages in their online press round up this morning. Amusingly, the Mirror’s prominent commercial advertising spot is directly at odds with greeny Tory government policy. As Princess Nut-Nut rules: ‘Government to ban single-use plastic cutlery‘ (BBC) – nothing but the very best John Lewis metal kitchenware in Carrie’s picnic basket, I’m sure. Meanwhile, the Mirror gifts us: ‘Free 15 ballpoint pens pick up at WH Smith‘ – I don’t know about you, but whenever I’ve bought ballpoints in bulk, at least one or two in ten are duds and get thrown straight in the bin.

    There’s an old wives’ tale (if those still exist) that says the reason there’s a hole in a Bic is to reduce the risk of people choking – so I guess what hope is there for the turtles? Of course, the Hungarian László Bíró invented the biro. I was amused when comedian and star of Curb Your Enthusiam, Larry David, claimed – with tongue very much in cheek – that his Uncle Bingo invented Bingo.

    The Telegraph confirms Boris’s young wife’s influence on policy: ‘Plastic plates and cutlery may face ban‘ – as her class war on us awful plebs and our déclassé habits rolls on.

    I can just hear Marie Antoinette Johnson, née Symonds, now: “They can’t afford silverware? Let them eat their horrible sugary fattening fast food with their fingers!”

    Intriguingly the ‘i’ frontpage teases an: ‘Embargoed story‘ on page 16 – relegated to page 16? It can’t be that earth shattering then? It can’t be: ‘Ronaldo returns! Portugal star is off to Man Utd‘ (Times) – that sports news is splashed all over the papers. Despite Brexit, the europeans do still seem to enjoy working over here – must be something to do with high wages and generous benefits.

    The Times features: ‘Britain’s best coastal walks‘ – Ah, I can conjour the image now. All the traditional seaside sights, eh? The abandoned rubber dinghies and life jackets, and as the sun begins to set we spy the dutiful Border Force loading their minibuses whisking endless lines of Eritreans off back to their hotel after a long day. Doesn’t that thought warm the Cockleshell Heroes of your heart? Oh, to be in England – as Robert Browning wrote in “Home-thoughts, from abroad” – and as Cristiano Ronaldo’s agent must have mused, somewhat less poetically.

    The Telegraph is thinking along similar lines: ‘Hit the beach rail. The best coastal train routes in Britain‘ – are our media coordinating their messaging? Heaven forbid.

    Fear and fury as thousands abandoned to Taliban‘ – frets the Guardian. Really, is that all? I thought the Afghan population must be at least in the tens of millions?

    The FT Weekend has an interview with legendary West Indian cricketer and commentator Michael Holding and somewhere, way down the agenda, they get around to a mention of cricket: ‘Race, culture and cricket‘ – runs the headline.

    One wouldn’t normally accuse the FT of sensationalism (more often than not their headlines tend toward the sin of obscurantism eg. ‘Powell sends strong hint that Fed is weighing start to taper this year‘ – eh?) but their feature on: ‘Kitchens through the ages‘ – perhaps demands a Michael Winneresque “Calm down, dear” for its headline: ‘Dreams and nightmares‘ – the domestic mind boggles. Don’t tell me a plastic spork (cross between a spoon and fork) turned up in the cutlery draw. Which is just about where we came in.


  37. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – it is 1984 already, again, some more

    Drone strike is first item. Nomia Iqbal (any relation to Razia?) is in Washington. Nomia states that the Taliban hate ISIS-K but then explains that many ISIS-K members are ex-Taliban. They obviously don’t hate each other that much then?


  38. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – it is 1984/85 already, again, some more “So give us yer money!”

    Sir Mark Lowcock, former Under-Secretary-General and Emergency Relief Coordinator for the UN, is a contributor to some more talking about Afghanistan. Something the BBC has been deficient on, the BBC have not told us about the drought and famine in Afghanistan but Sir Mark informs us. He rattles the collecting tin under the noses, er … ears of the TOADY listeners. Not sure how enthusiastic the response will be.


  39. Fedup2 says:

    The origins of the Chinese virus – the bbc security correspondent – Gordon Carrara – ‘the theory that the Chinese virus came from a Chinese lab was rubbished ‘BECAUSE IT WAS FROM DONALD TRUMP ‘….

    followed by John smiths ‘ daughter – presenter – a deranged theory …from Donald trump ‘…

    The MSM admitting its’ prejudice after the act and not even realising they are doing it ….

    So much for the objective truthful BBC


    • Up2snuff says:

      Naughty Fed! You have spoilt my TOADY Watch #4!


      • Fedup2 says:

        I apologise to you and the British people – lessons will be learnt – there will be an independent inquiry which will take years to set up – years to ‘investigate ‘ and years to write the report and years before a redacted version is published on a Christmas Eve in around 2035…of my comment …..


        • Up2snuff says:

          🙂 LOL x 5 at least, maybe 7, but I won’t give it a 10 because that stupid BBC commentator might start shouting again. He is a complete idiot and they inflicted some audio clips of him being an idiot – again – on TOADY listeners this morning.


        • G says:


          “….published on a Christmas Eve in around 2035…of my comment …..” That would be round-about when we all form a circle for warmth around our Heat Pumps in the garden……..


          • Scroblene says:

            Great minds an’ all that, G!

            I’ll be 88 then, but sadly there won’t be any heat pumps, as we’re next to a church (of England – remember them), so it’ll be a mosque by then, and all the effluent from the graves a few feet from our back door, won’t be the favourite concoction to add to the monoliths of the religion of peace…

            But think positive, the local road-kill cafe will be named Al’s Snackbar, and we can all go ‘HaaaaLaaaal!

            Cheerful future isn’t it…


  40. Fedup2 says:

    The US military has forefilled the false presidents ‘ threat to get revenge for his incompetence in Afgee by firing a reaper missile at some poor shepherd in the middle of nowhere and calling him an ISIS mastermind …..


    • Guest Who says:

      Sopes’ tapped Spingster yet to fact check this?


      • Scroblene says:

        Surely it stared way back with Dubya, then cocked up by Barry Bama, then resurrected in a serious voice by a real President Trump (not a fake one they sadly have now).

        Why don’t people do a bit of research?

        … and let’s not forget, Barry had two terms to do something – eight years…

        Great record of absolutely sod all.


    • JimS says:

      “Boss, there are thousands of pick-ups driving towards Kabul, should we tell the pentagon?”

      “No, it’s probably Eid or something like that.”

      “Boss, there’s a guy sitting on a rock looking at his phone!”

      “Nuke the b***er! If he’s on his own there won’t be any collateral damage. Mark him down as ISIS.”


    • vlad says:

      My thoughts exactly.


  41. Fedup2 says:

    Toady again
    They interviewed someone whose job title was ‘Yorkshire refugee settlement manager ‘( that has got to be a £100k job ) who happily told us that the Afgee ‘interpreters ‘might need ‘English lessons ‘ then realised what he’d said and said ‘well their families might ‘…..

    I’m sure we could have got the 3 million population of Kabul and their cats and dogs out by the 1st of September ….and given the names and addresses of our ‘helpers left behind ‘to the taliban so they could ‘help ‘ them ….


  42. Guest Who says:

    Vile drawing the crowds as ever.


  43. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – now who does this portray in a (un)favourable light?


    You’ll have to be quick with the first one, the BBC Home Page changes during the day

    The BBC & Getty Picture Editors do like photos of ‘Totty’ and cleavage!


  44. Jack in the Green says:

    Any agenda-driven news reportage is, by it’s very nature, biased and partial. All news media, including the advertising industry, appear to be guilty of this along with the equally unprofessional crime of agenda-driven news and subject selection. Any decent journalist should be ashamed at the very idea of this ‘Pravda’ style approach to news gathering and presentation, but it appears, with a few exceptions, not to be the case. So they have become no better than your average jobsworth working within an industry where fear, very much as in the film industry, rules the day. Having worked in the past on both the investigative and editorial sides within my particular field for a number of years, I have to say that if I or my colleagues had adopted this approach I would have been ashamed. Anyone who thinks they can do their job properly by constantly bowing to naked political pressure needs to take a long, hard look at themselves.


  45. vonrecht says:

    On R4 Toady, Webb is keen to suggest the West will soon need to be financing the Taliban State. Apparently it is not going to be a Terrorist Superstate, but simply a benign and cuddly pal requiring ‘development’ assistance. Meanwhile there is regret at the BBC that the flow of ‘brave Afghans’ into Britain could be momentarily interrupted, but they are comforted by the anticipation that commercial flights could soon resume. (No doubt, our new big buddies, the Taliban, will co operate -at a price!)
    Also, much mention of Biden taking terrible revenge, a single drone strike taking out a ‘planner’ in Afghanistan somewhere. Very impressive stuff; I’m sure IsisK and AlQueda are terrified. The Taliban are presumably not meant to be, since they are now our buddies.
    All this Afghanistan stuff has diverted our attention from quite a number of items, which it was meant to do. To mention 2: the role of the Wuhan lab, in turning ordinary viruses into bioweapons through ‘gain of function’ technology and their possible deliberate release by the CCP; the audits taking place in a number of US states, showing the massive fraud perpetrated on Nov 3, 2020, placing the illegitimate Biden/Harris regime in power. That same regime has been responsible for the chaotic Kabul withdrawal, leaving behind billions of dollars of sophisticated weapons in Taliban hands.
    The ultimate winners in all this – the CCP- will be ecstatic. China Joe has delivered, and it may now be time to look more closely at the next target- Taiwan.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Oi! Hey, you get off of my cloud. I was going to do a TOADY Watch on that, vonrecht, and I was hoping to beat my all time record just so a BBC commentator could shout a bit more – not.


      Good post, btw!


      • Scroblene says:

        Snuffy, we can’t all be winners, just believe anything the Liberal Party tell us!

        But of course, apply the Law of Scrobs to the awful BBC, especially the dross spouted by Lewis Goodall sometime last night!



        • Up2snuff says:

          I had the good fortune to miss Lewis Goodall last night, Scrobie. No telly does have its advantages. I should also make it clear that I do not consider the TOADY or TWatO watching to be solely my prerogative: the more who can spot and post about BBC and its shortcomings the better.

          And if anyone wants to take on the job, I’ll move over darling.

          (Thinks: how many posts can I do this weekend with song titles in them?)


          • Scroblene says:

            ‘Twenty-four hours from Tesla’?

            ‘Baby you can drive my cart’?

            ‘Fat bottoxed girls’…

            ‘Biden my time until the time is right’…..!

            Any more around…


  46. StewGreen says:

    11:30am R4 FooC today’s blurb is very long
    2x Islamic terrorism, Palestinian gangsters, Barcelona extortionists
    BBC guy flies to Seychelles to see a plant, and shout Climate Change.

    “Forever wars – and how they can end

    There’s a worry that jihadist movements in Africa and Asia could gain ground.
    Might the news from Kabul attract new recruits to their ranks – especially in those places where international forces have been deeply involved in fighting them back?
    The various armed groups allied with Al Qaida and the Islamic State across the Sahel and east Africa have been wreaking havoc for more than a decade now.
    Andrew Harding

    In Afghanistan itself, some among the Taliban now in charge of the country again have grievances of their own, after losing relatives and comrades killed in airstrikes and night raids over the past twenty years.
    So how will they rule, and treat their old enemies?
    Kate Clark witnessed the fall of the city in 2001 – and in 2021.

    For some time, Palestinian citizens of Israel have reported rising violence within their communities – not politically motivated, but driven by organised crime.
    The mobsters’ trade in drugs and weapons, and their vendettas, have blighted many areas – and left many families bereaved. Yolande Knell

    Squatting in Barcelona, some move into a property and demand a ‘ransom’ of thousands of Euros from the owner before they will leave? Linda Pressly
    (Some gypsies do that in the UK)

    Patrick Muirhead in the Seychelles, on the Jellyfish Tree.
    : no-one yet understands how it manages to reproduce.
    “In the teeth of climate change and rapid development for the islands’ tourism industry, there are fears the species may not last much longer.
    If a proposed dam is built to supply water for the growing population of Mahé island, it could engulf one of the last remaining outcrops of the plant


    • StewGreen says:

      Islamist Africa
      Timbuktu : the locals cheered when the French moved in in numbers to kick out the desert invaders.

      Today UN forces keep the ceasefire in Mali and Somalia
      cos their own governments are so weak
      The BBC said their presence stops local resolution.

      Kabul : cos Taliban are outsiders in a much bigger Taliban
      they will have difficulty to control it.

      Jellyfish tree : the BBC failed to mentioned that one flowered in Edinburgh a few years ago
      but keeping a tree alive is very difficult and still a step away from getting it to seed new plants.
      Most quickly die in botanic gardens.


  47. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Does anyone really think that the isis k mastermind behind the Kabul bombing was the person we are told was killed by a drone.

    It’s probably a propaganda exercise to give the impression to the ‘people’ that something is being done. Some poor unfortunate on his way to feed his goats blown up to make the US public feel a bit better.

    You can’t believe anything you are told now.
    We’ve been lied to so much.

    *Fedup. Just seen your earlier post.
    Great minds eh.


    • vlad says:

      “Does anyone really think that the isis k mastermind behind the Kabul bombing was the person we are told was killed by a drone.”?


      Ps. I like the bit about the goats, I had the same thought.


  48. Fedup2 says:

    Yes EG – great minds – give it a few hours and the ‘mastermind ‘ will turn out to be a shepherd or they hit another wedding again …
    ……else where on Twitter – allegations by military types that the RAF nearly lost a c17 trying to take off from Kabul on Friday because of unauthorised vehicles on the runway .

    Obviously we’ll never know if that’s true but I bet there are a lot of MSM cameras at that airport waiting for another ‘mishap’….

    Also .. looking worse for the false president because of claims he ignored various good advice so that he could clear the books before the 9/11 anniversary – which is now seriously tainted ….


  49. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #4 – forget 1984 and 1985, it’s the days of future past

    TOADY take an item of day old news (which the BBc are not meant to do) and do some advertising (which they are not allowed to do) and add someone in ‘for balance’ (which the BBC are required to do but do not do all the time). Eric Morecambe and Ernie Wise gave an interview to a student TV station at the University of East Anglia, a.k.a. the University of UnExceptional Academics which I was told by someone who worked there.

    There’s a new book coming out about Morecambe & Wise, apparently, so get your Christmas prezzie lists out – well, it is the last Bank Holiday w/e before the Big One – and make sure you get Santa to deliver. Apparently Eric and Ern made some disparaging remarks about Monty Python – who haven’t got a book coming out – so BBC favourite Michael Palin is brought on to provide ‘balance’.

    The BBC hypocrisy, as usual, is breathtaking.

    They do not extend that same courtesy, nay, requirement for the BBC to be balanced to Global Warming & Climate Change sceptics, the EU and Brexit (John Cleese – a Python – might have something to say on that), ‘anti-Vaxxers’ and many, many more situations and opinions.