Weekend Thread 28 August 2021

The Main Stream Media ( BBC) continues to avoid criticism of the Biden Disaster – by diverting attention to the human misery that he has caused . But – after all – it has backed him against President Trump for over a year so cannot turn on him – however much death and misery he has caused . Let’s hope our military gets out safely .

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288 Responses to Weekend Thread 28 August 2021

  1. Dobyns says:

    Has anyone seen the following as a soundbite on al beeb?

    “Biden perfectly demonstrates the folly of electing someone simply because he was not someone else you wanted to get rid of.  If Biden was the answer, what’s the question?”

    Iain Duncan Smith, 27 August 2021


  2. JohnC says:

    My spider sense is telling me Biden is not long for the job now.
    How will he be removed ?. Impeached ?. Resign ?. 25th amendment ?.
    Are there any other ways ?.

    The question is then what happens next.
    Harris as president ?. Really ?. I don’t believe a single person – other than the cretins who support her simply because she is a woman – thinks she is up to the job.

    Could be some very interesting times ahead quite soon.

    The thing I have learned the most from this is that the BBC consider having a semi-coherent Joe Biden as President just to keep their political enemy (Trump) out to be more important than the damage he is inflicting on the West and the thousands who are going to die because of his incompetence.

    Hitler and Stalin would be proud of them.


    • Up2snuff says:

      John, don’t forget the real villain in this Afgee piece: George W. Bush and his poodle, the warmongering Tony Blair. It is up to the Afghan people to get rid of the Taliban in Government if they do not like them.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I m amazed that Bush has had no coverage at all . He will have to surface sometime before 9/11 …. He might still have that face he had when he was told of the 9/11 attacks whilst in a classroom of kids


        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, that’s right. You would think the BBC would want to string George Dubya up there with Former President Donald Trump, just for being in the same political Party in the US. Maybe the BBC have held back because it might not reflect too well on their BBC Posterboy Blair?


      • Teddy Bear says:

        U2S I don’t know if you mean what you write here about Bush and Blair but just in case you are serious I want to present another way to view what they were doing. I wrote this some time ago, but I think you’ll see its relevance here.

        I did and still do support the invasion of Iraq, the only pity is it stopped where it did.

        The problem for most people to understand the justification for it is that the media has gone to great lengths to avoid bringing those issues to the table that showed why it was right. If anything, the media stopped our forces going as far as it needed to in putting down the threat to our society that daily further encroaches on our lives.

        First I would suggest that people read the book ‘ The High Cost of Peace’ by Yossef Bodansky. He was the director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, as well as director of research at the International Strategic Studies Association and a senior editor for the Defense and Foreign Affairs group of publications. The author of eight books on international terrorism and global crises, a former senior consultant for the US Depts. of Defense and State. He also predicted and wrote about 9/11 before it happened, by observing what was going on within the Islamic world.

        He shows in this book how Clinton’s zeal for peace was motivated by his desire to divert national attention away from his domestic scandals, and why his administration completely ignored the growing threat of militant Islamism. Also, what secret preparations Saddam ordered for the next war with, and terrorist strikes against, the United States and Israel. Saddam wasn’t the only leader within the Muslim world who was vying to be ‘the supreme leader’, but he had his hands on the reins. Taking out Saddam wasn’t only about getting rid of this direct threat, but also to send a message to the rest of them. We saw how Gaddafi, for example, immediately became a good boy once he saw what was happening to Saddam.

        The problem began with our media laying the focus on WMD as the necessary justification instead of what can still be deemed a weapon of mass destruction that lies within the Islamic mindset. Even today, following over 20,400 deadly terrorist attacks since 9/11, the ambitions of the Islamists have still not been properly identified by our media, and counter measures put into place. The problem for Bush and Blair in spelling out the real reasons for takeing out Saddam was to allow the other regimes with similar ambitions to back down, like Gaddafi. If they would have stated that this was the purpose of the war, it would have been more likely to have them dig in their heels, rather than make themselves look weak in front of their followers. But this made it impossible to publicly ridicule the premise that the only legitimate purpose of the war was to get rid of WMD.

        Clinton knew that the media would attack him if he would have chosen to counter the forces of Islam the way Bush did, which is why he preferred to appease them, sending them billions, and only serving to empower and embolden them further. It’s a pity that our media made it impossible for Bush to finish the job, as in the long run for us to take control it will cost a lot more lives on all sides. Blair was not initially a proponent of war, and was making the same sort of noises as France and Germany. Then one weekend in the run up to the invasion, Bush had him come to Camp David for an ‘education’ on what was really going on in the world. When he returned, he was a ‘convert’.

        What I’m trying to point out is the media is stupid, Instead of thinking about the real threats to our society, and what needs to be done about it, they go by the ‘letter’ and can’t see the forest for the trees.

        Bush said it was a ‘war on terror’, and he was absolutely right.
        Al Qaeda or Ali Baba, it doesn’t make any difference. He’s not going to say that he’s making war on Muslims, just a specific mindset within their religious community, wherever he finds them.

        This is what it will come down to eventually. We are dealing with a hydra – a multi headed monster. Al Qaeda was just somewhere to start, and take it from there. It would have been great if he would have been left to get on with it, and for those within our society to have understood – just play along.

        Unfortunately – the idiots among us were just ‘too clever’ to understand it. The same idiots that populate so many of the media organisations.

        Here is something else similar but with a few added things to think about.
        One book I highly recommend is ‘The High Cost of Peace’ by Yossef Bodansky. Among other things, he was the director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare. Director of Research at the International Strategic Studies Association. He was also a senior consultant for the US Departments of Defense and State.

        In brief, 9/11 didn’t just happen. The build up to a major terrorist attack against the US by militant Islam was quite apparent, and Bodansky, who was monitoring closely what was going on in the Middle East at the time, predicted it. Clinton, who probably knew that to launch any kind of pre-emptive offensive would garner immense opposition, not least from a left-wing media, chose to ignore it.

        One can say that all those who allowed this situation to grow as it did are ‘the stupid ones’. Preferring instead to try and get through their presidency with the illusion of ‘peace in the Middle East’ as a possibility, which if you think about the dynamics involved, has no basis in reality. Maintaining the status quo for as long as possible was the order of the day pretty much for any president, unless it was unavoidable, like Saddam invading Kuwait.

        Definitely Saddam was one of the forces within the Muslim world who was seeking to lead the Islamic domination of the world. But he was only one, and there were plenty of other regimes vying for this power, as well as individuals including Bin Laden.

        Problem for us in the West is we are reliant on totally corrupt organisations like the UN, composed itself by a large faction of these regimes, to make all this clear, or our left wing media whose first reaction is always to appease. So unless one researches it for oneself, all one has is a load of misinformation and propaganda. There is also the fact that our ‘allies’ have financial involvements in many of the regimes, and the last thing they want to do is rock the boat. I posted a small item about this here..

        I don’t think for a moment that Bush Jnr really knew much about what was going on in the greater world at the time of 9/11, and this made the necessity for a ‘crash course’. You can be quite sure that it was experts who made it clear to him about what was going on within the Islamic world, which would for the most part have been completely foreign to him.

        The result was as you know, but the purpose was quite different than what has been mostly aired by the media. For sure it had nothing to do with WMD by Saddam, but it was a message to all the Ayatollahs and the like to say if you mess with us this is what is going to happen to you. However, this message had to be delivered in a covert way, because even regimes like Saudi Arabia were involved in this power struggle. I hope you can understand the ‘diplomacy’ involved in this action, and why the real reasons couldn’t be aired publicly.

        You will remember though how quickly Gadhafi renounced all power bids following the Iraq invasion though, as just one example of what the real effect of it was to be.

        If you can also recall events at the time, Blair was also against attacking Saddam, for all the political reasons that much of the rest of the world were opposed to it. Either personal profiteering or appeasing tyrants. Then Blair was invited for a weekend to Camp David and when he returned he completely changed his tune. They clearly ‘filled him in’ and what was really happening in the world and that to put off action was only going to postpone the inevitable, and make it that much harder to eventually overcome. he knew too, that he couldn’t state the real reasons. Between a ‘rock and a hard place’, or ‘Iraq and a hard place’ 😉

        This is actually one of the few areas in his PM-ship that Blair displayed any kind of genuine courage or conviction.

        I think the goal of Bush and Blair was to push on for as long as necessary, wherever it took them, to deal with the Islamic threat. But the action of our media, completely undermining them. pretty much tied their hands.

        There is no doubt that the conflict is far from over, and not because we’re in Afghanistan and Iraq, but because it didn’t go as far as it needed to. You can be certain it’s going to come because that’s what the Islamists are doing.


        • Up2snuff says:

          You are refering to Gulf 2, Teddy Bear.

          I was refering to Afghanistan. Bush squandered the whole world’s sympathy and goodwill toward the USA by going ‘to war against terror’ and attacking Afghanistan when, in all probability, Osama bin Laden was not there.

          Bodansky was in serious error here: “He shows in this book how Clinton’s zeal for peace was motivated by his desire to divert national attention away from his domestic scandals”. Clinton was not a peacemaker! He bombed Iraq continually, ostensibly in enforcing ‘the no fly zone’ corridor or buffer zone around the Kurds. In addition, he did that with Stealth bombers, not from convenient US or UK bases but flown from the US itself. Why? Because Bill wanted to keep in with his military’s desire to explore the new kit and wanted to protect as far as possible the new technology incorporated into the Stealth design. Bill Clinton then had the cheek to lecture the world about the perils of Global Warming while burning incredible amounts of carbon and creating huge CO2 emissions.

          The second mistake Bodansky makes is that a 9/11 response was not Clinton’s call. Bush had been inaugurated in the January of 2001. It was not until September that the attack on the Twin Towers occurred along with the attack on the Pentagon. Clinton was happy to go to war. He’d been actively fighting in the former Yugoslavia as well as bombing Iraq. And don’t mention Somalia!

          If this is Bodnasky’s view or yours, I’m not sure but “Definitely Saddam was one of the forces within the Muslim world who was seeking to lead the Islamic domination of the world. But he was only one, and there were plenty of other regimes vying for this power, as well as individuals including Bin Laden.”

          Clinton had an opportunity to go after Osama bin Laden and was encouraged to do so, if Bill’s Wiki is correct. ObL flitted between Saudi, Egypt, Libya and possibly some other countries, recruiting and training Muslim terrorists. Why did Clinton not do that? There were plenty of opportunities. Many, many, lives could have been saved and young men and women not left with life changing injuries.

          “If you can also recall events at the time, Blair was also against attacking Saddam, for all the political reasons that much of the rest of the world were opposed to it. Either personal profiteering or appeasing tyrants. Then Blair was invited for a weekend to Camp David and when he returned he completely changed his tune. They clearly ‘filled him in’ and what was really happening in the world and that to put off action was only going to postpone the inevitable, and make it that much harder to eventually overcome. he knew too, that he couldn’t state the real reasons. Between a ‘rock and a hard place’, or ‘Iraq and a hard place’ 😉

          This is actually one of the few areas in his PM-ship that Blair displayed any kind of genuine courage or conviction.”

          That made me chuckle. Gulf 2 was about a grudge re-match between George Dubya (on behalf of his Dad and the top US military Chiefs like Powell) and Saddam Hussein. It was nothing to do with 9/11 and Blair employed complete deceit over Gulf 2 in a media campaign that is now well known.

          “But the action of our media, completely undermining them. pretty much tied their hands.”

          You have got to be kidding!


          • Teddy Bear says:

            I can only repeat my view that the war on terror did not go far enough and the reason we are having to deal with so much fallout from allowing this sick mentality that is radical Islam to continue is only going to get worse.
            Watch Iran
            Watch Turkey
            Watch Afghanistan
            to name but a few.
            In the meantime let’s keep taking in more and more ‘refugees’ from those genuinely trying to flee this mentality and those whose purpose is to do their best to bring our society down, and are succeeding quite well.

            I repeat WE DID NOT GO FAR ENOUGH and if you don’t agree with that I’d love to know what your solution would be.


            • Up2snuff says:

              TB, a conflict between Islam and the West is inevitable now.

              Do you not recall how Clinton – and with the help of Blair in his first term – suddenly went all cosy with the Muslims in Serbia and Kosova having cracked down on them at first before Blair was PM? Do you not remember all the terrorists in the UK that were not suicide bombers, how they explained that what they were doing to the UK was ‘pay back’ for everything but especially Gulf 1, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Gulf 2 and Libya? I think we can expect more of that, sadly, in the future, despite the current PM’s generous offer of evacuation and a life in the West to the Afghans we have managed to get out of the country.

              Ironically those people appear to be going straight to the top of LA housing waiting lists. Yet, our service people the ones who physically survived our military escapades, perhaps minus a limb or two or a faculty like eyesight or left with PTSD or alcoholism or drug addiction, will all get pushed down those same Housing Lists and maybe left to sleep on the streets. What say you to that? It was worth it? No, it was not. No, No, NO and a thousand times NO – it was not worth it. It was very, very stupid!

              In reality, removal of Saddam Hussein as part of Gulf 1 – hands were tied by the UN resolution, if I recall correctly – would not really have solved the problem. It goes much, much, deeper than that. Most of the Socialists and Liberal Lefties in the West (even those in the Conservative Party) do not really understand how Islam views the West. Stick around here and you will pick up from the posts of various people a much better understanding. There is a complete clash of values. The BBC certainly do not understand it or, at least, do not let on that they do ‘on air’.

              Right now, I have enormous sympathy for the people of Afghanistan. For twenty years or so, they were pushed around, killed and maimed, by the Russians. For another twenty years they were pushed around, killed and maimed by the Americans.

              Now they are going to be pushed around by the rule of the Talib and Sharia, and will probably be killed and maimed.

              What say you to that?


              • Zelazek says:

                The awful truth is that we are engaged on a 1400-year-old war with a fanatical enemy – Islam. This religion enjoins its followers to kill all infidels who do not submit and convert to it. That is not a radical fringe perversion of its doctrines as the woke media would have you believe; that is the essence of the religion. Islam will not stop in its drive for world domination until it either succeeds or is utterly destroyed.

                It was right to go into Afghanistan. It would have been right to keep a garrison force there, for ever if necessary. Now we are allowing our enemy to grow and opening ourselves up to more attacks like 9/11.

                I know we are all tired of foreign wars and we wish the world was a happier place. But our survival is at stake and our enemy is formidable. We must do whatever it takes to destroy Islam, even if it takes another 1400 years.


                • Up2snuff says:

                  Zelazek, yes of course a 1400 year war but I like to think that once upon a time we were a bit smarter and a bit more, well, Christian. We knew the importance of Israel and especially Jerusalem, to God. So yes. At first we took on Islam when we had to. Then we got suckered. And sold out.

                  Fast forward to the 1960s: we start to liberalise in the West. Eventually, by the 1990s we have a society that is so liberal it does not know what it stands for any more. It has completely self-undermined itself to smithereens. You know the rest. You know what is Western that doesn’t fit with Talib and Sharia, you know the hopelessness of expecting the Muslim world to liberalise, too. Another thing I feel sure they teach at West Point and Sandhurst is ‘Pick your battles (even complete wars) carefully.’.

                  Then we got suckered. And sold out. All over again. I think it was wrong to have a ‘war on terror’. I think it was wrong to go into Afghanistan, especially as the intel was that Osama bin Laden wasn’t even there at the time. Think how many lives have been wasted, how much money has been wasted and do the Taliban wish to adopt our liberal western attitudes and mores? No. Of course not. Are the Afghan people pleased to have the Taliban in charge of their country again. No, of course not. Will millions of Muslims be blaming Britain and the US right now for the plight of the Afghan people?

                  They sure will.

                  And sometime soon, they will try to exact some small revenge. And again. And again. Wake up!


              • Teddy Bear says:

                U2S I don’t know if you really understand what I’m writing. All you seem to write about is where we didn’t go far enough – which is exactly what I’ve said. You also are not offering any solution as to what you think SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

                This picture was a VERY POWERFUL message to the Islamic world. The terrorists are merely pawns in a system that is kept going by the disgusting foul beings like Saddam et al who use it to gain power. This let them know that they might have gold toilets now but don’t count on keeping it.

                Zelazek I agree totally with what you wrote above.



                • Up2snuff says:

                  Yes, I understand what you are writing but you do not understand your enemy. As Zelazek points out, they are fanatical. They have a belief system. We do not, not any more.

                  What would you do in your war with Islam? Kill all the Muslims?

                  Or would you insist that they just drink alcohol, go clubbing, play pop music, accept homosexuality and transgenderism and all the other liberal values including mini-skirts for women, education for women, jobs for women, places in parliament for women? And if they refuse? What then?

                  You have seen what the Taliban think about women voting and being elected to political office. Wake up!


                  • Teddy Bear says:

                    ’ What would you do in your war with Islam? Kill all the Muslims?’
                    Perhaps you should read the posts before you reply WHAT IS IT YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND – or don’t want to?
                    Getting rid of Saddam or any other leader trying to dominate and using terrorism as a tool has been stated here already several times – GET IT?

                    Your ‘solution’ seems to be doing nothing except allow terrorists to do what they want first then offer bribes to get them turned over to you.
                    In the meantime you will allow all Muslims who claim to be refugees into our society. Already a few years ago it was predicted with the number already here, that with their birth-rate they would be the majority by 2050 = end of democracy.
                    With the millions coming in it will now happen well before that. So for you that’s the problem solved – we’ll all be Muslims and no need for war.


            • Up2snuff says:

              Oh, and two more things about Afghanistan and Gulf 2.

              You do not have to have been in the military to know that fighting a war on two fronts – especially so far from home – is inadvisable. Something, I guess that they teach at West Point and Sandhurst: be clear about your objective, do not dilute your effort, do not over-commit your forces.

              Secondly, how much in sheer cash terms (apart from the dead and damaged lives & families) did the UK and USA spend on war in Afghanistan and war in Gulf 2? Would it not have cost a fraction of that to put a price on Osama bin Laden’s head, and the heads of any other terrorists, and not have to face the consequences of two ill-judged ventures in future?

              What say you to that?


              • Teddy Bear says:

                Do you understand what this means?
                You seem to think that putting a price on each of these terrorist heads AFTER THE FACT would solve the problem, but not to do anything against those pulling the strings in advance.

                WHERE IS YOUR SOLUTION for the third or fourth time?

                Or is it to wait until the conflict is ideal before we lock horns? That’s all you seem to be offering.


                • Up2snuff says:

                  I do but you obviously do not. Wake up!


                  • Teddy Bear says:

                    Clearly you do not know what being awake means. You seem to think that both Zelazek and myself need to despite being offered quite logical reasoning. Perhaps it’s you that needs to ‘WAKE UP’
                    There are 1.9 billion Muslims in the world. You seem to think that offering bribes AFTER terrorists have made an attack is the solution.
                    So somebody like Saddam would get one of his puppets to commit a terrorist attack. You would offer a million dollars or whatever for the terrorist and Saddam would happily give them over to you. He can keep this up a BILLION times.
                    DO you really think you’ve thought this through???

                    Wake up – ha ha ha.


                    • Zephir says:

                      Teddy Bear, watch out, he will have you banned, he is allowed to criticise all here with impunity and if you continue they will all pile in (all three of them) and say “what has this got to do with the bbc……….


  3. Guest Who says:

    ‘Wrexham Man’

    Blodwin and the kids pop back for the summer hols?


    • micknotmike says:

      So he’s been here for 19 years. I’m sure a list of useful things he has done for the UK during this time would make interesting reading.


  4. tomo says:

    As per usual the creeps at Broadcasting House have their own agenda and push it relentlessly.

    Other folks have a different take….


  5. Sluff says:

    A propos of…not much.

    If social benefits in the UK are so poor ( think of the outrage at stopping the £20 pw Universal Credit ‘temporary’ uplift)………….. then why are 800 economic chancers per day prepared to cross the channel in little rubber boats when they are already safe in Francd?


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      There is good money to be made working in car washes and minding cannabis farms. Also, if you sell the Beeg Ishoo it opens the way for housing benefit and all sorts of other goodies. Don’t forget treatment by the NHS which is much too PC to ask if you should be here in the first place. Compared to most of the shitholes in the world, Britain is a paradise.


  6. vlad says:

    More stupidity and bias from the BBC. Their Washington correspondent, Barbara something, reporting on phoney Biden’s abysmal, self serving speech post terror attack, gushed about how ‘personal’ and ‘moving’ it was, ending with: “You could see the pain written on his face”.
    Well actually, no, Barbara, I could see the worst bit off ham acting I’ve seen in years.
    Where’s your journalistic scepticism Barbara, or did you use it all up on Trump? Biden is a career politician, i.e. a professional liar who’s spent decades faking whatever emotion is required.

    His speech was embarrassingly mawkish, schmaltzy, and totally fake.

    How do we know? A few days earlier, Lyin’ Biden had shown his true face while interviewed by his pal on ABC. He was relaxed and his guard was down as he knew he was “among friends”. Asked about bodies falling out of the sky, he came out with his infamous “that was 4 or 5 days ago” in a “c’mon man” tone of voice. It was barely 2 days, by the way, but clearly Biden was saying: don’t bother me with old news, I don’t give a damn. His tone was dismissive, petulant and totally unsympathetic to the young men and boys desperately clinging onto departing planes. Clearly he couldn’t give a flying f*** (fig). That was the real, spontaneous Biden, chatting to his media pals.

    He received criticism for that ghastly interview, and clearly his PR advisers realised that ‘the optics’ were dreadful and coached the Imbecile for his next performance, which is the one that moved our Barbara so much.

    Then he was all bogus anguish:

    “We’ve seen gut-wrenching images of panicked people acting out of sheer desperation… I don’t think anyone — I don’t think any one of us can see those pictures and not feel that pain on a human level.”

    The very same images that he’d callously dismissed in his earlier ABC interview.

    It’s only a small point but it’s symptomatic of the BBC’s naiveté, unprofessionalism, sentimentality, and above all: bias.


    • Fedup2 says:

      The thing that gets me is that no one names those who are getting Biden trained for these public appearances – you can feel them in the background ready to drag him away .

      How Americans put up with a dysfunctional – secretive – false president is beyond me – yet alone the dementia .

      Compare it with the stick Ronald Reagan got …


      • Up2snuff says:

        Or former Pres, DjT, Fed on that last point of yours. Trump got a huge amount of stick from the BBC. I seem to recall Sopel going ape over former President Trump’s first medical and was demanding that the results be released and stating that Donald Trump was not fit for office and blah, blah. It would be ‘Ironic’ [ I’m on a roll this weekend! 😉 ] if China Joe is so ‘Fragile’ [ there’s another one ] that he has to step down within his first year.


      • vlad says:

        Fedup – Yes: “They gave me a list here, first person I was instructed to call on is Kelly O’Donnell of NBC”.

        Who is “they”? Obama is somewhere in that swamp, among others.


    • R P McMurphy says:

      She’s the one that actually cried to camera with a BBC mike in her hand when reporting on Yasser Arafat being admitted to hospital.
      She’s still on the payroll and even more biased.


  7. vlad says:

    BBC naiveté, part 2.

    In the same report from our girl in Washington, Barbara something, she ended her mawkish piece on Biden with: “It is known that President Biden keeps the names of the fallen in his pocket next to his heart…”


    a) I doubt it’s true, as that pocket is already stuffed full of his crib notes reminding him that his name is Biden and he’s President of the USA.

    b) More significantly, HOW is it ‘known’? Answer: it’s known because his PR minders have told us so. In other words it’s pure propaganda which the BBC are slavishly repeating, unchecked and unexamined.

    Again, only a small point, but do you think Trump would have got away with such cr*p?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Footage on c span of security pulling the press out of the Oval Office after formalities between – I think Biden and the PM of Israel – the press tried asking Afgee questions – no answers …


      • Up2snuff says:

        Barbara Plett-Usher, widow of Graham Usher, the journalist, if I recall correctly.


  8. BRISSLES says:

    In the days ahead we can guarantee hearing endless sob stories after the last flight has left Kabul. Of course there will be endless criticism, but the bottom line is… what do they expect us to do about it ? The Government have already told us how many migrants (sorry refugees) we are going to pay our taxes for.

    Are the people of Belgium bothered ? Is there a massive refugee rescue operation in Spain going on that I’ve not heard of ? What about Portugal, how many refs are they taking in? How about the island of Sardinia ?

    And, I’ve kept hearing a lot about British Nationals, now, does that mean white Christian diplomats/embassy staff/foreign aid workers/contract workers etc? OR does is mean anyone of any ethnic group that holds a British passport ? this is never clarified on the news channels, because with that group and those that ‘helped’ western allies it appears that at least half the population of Afghanistan are entitled to flee the country on that pretext.


    • Zephir says:

      As when we announced cancellation of flights from India (with enough advance warning to make it a mockery) after a virus break out there, it never ceases to amaze me how many “british” are living in India, Pakistan and the Middle East.
      I would be interested to see how much child benefit and other benefits leave these shores every week to support these British patriots.
      And forget the fake embarrassment of the far left when some fly the British flag, check out some of our ghettos when Pakistan wins at cricket e.g. in Luton for example, youtube is rather informing of the traitors in our midst flying the Pakistani flags from every window on these occasions and running up and down the streets.
      Sod our culture its our taxpayers benefits, education and infrastructure they want.
      Nothing more.
      And when we are outbred and they turn on eachother as they always do they have a new country to raze to the ground.


    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      I often demur that the UK should take the same amount of ‘refugees’ as Bolivia or Singpore.


  9. JimS says:

    I listened to Disinformation:A User’s Guide on Radio 4 Extra today, a programme from 2018.

    It purported to be a considered history, going back to the Russian revolution, but it made the fatal error of faux historians of thinking that they can accurately take their story up to ‘the present day’, i.e. 2018 in this case. Consequently President Trump gets quite a few mentions, Q.E.D.

    Just three years later the actions of the likes of Clinton and the FBI are becoming clearer and, as has been true many times in the past, the ‘disinformers’ aren’t necessarily those first suspected.

    Silly BBC.

    By repeating this programme now they continue to spread disinformation.


  10. Sluff says:

    BBC getting out the hankies for those unable to get out of Kabul.
    Featured is a ‘British national’ who went back to Kabul to get his Afghan wife and child(ren?) out.

    The ‘British national’ is interviewed – he speaks faltering English and has no discernible link with the country,

    Which does rather beg the question – why is he a British national in the place?

    Such questions needless to say are never asked by the BBC for whom open door mass immigration is a matter of faith.

    PS ….and then we had the same story on BBC Londonistan. A ‘British’ taxi driver, Mohammed somebody, was in Kabul and tragically killed in the airport bomb attack. He had travelled to Kabul to get his wife and family out !!!!!!!
    Nope, me neither.


  11. Guest Who says:

    Dilemma time in ofcom.


  12. Tabs says:

    Anyone know why the BBC isn’t reporting the anti covid passport protests around the world?

    Daily Mail Offices in London

    New York

    Google HQ in London



    It’s everywhere apart from the BBC News channel!


    • taffman says:

      “Anyone know why the BBC isn’t reporting the anti covid passport protests around the world?”

      Because they don’t want to upset Bo Jo in case he abolishes the Telly Tax.

      We have not heard from maxincony for some time, perhaps he has some inside information he can enlighten us with ?


  13. Zephir says:

    Some doddery old pensioners and mumsnet harridans in our town today with signs saying ” talk to us about climate crisis”
    Yeh right, maybe give up your petrol / diesel cars, ban all SUVs except for farmers maybe ? foreign holidays, ban cars within 2 miles of school gates and what about means testing child benefit with all savings going towards the extra we will all have to pay for your green measures ? thats a start, make your kids and grandkids walk like we used to everywhere or use public transport, houses for the homeless in this country not economic refugees and their extended families as spouted in the green party manifesto, (and they demand an amnesty for illegal immigrants) ban families without the means to support kids having children, and ban families of more than two kids maybe ? then maybe I’ll have a chat
    Oh yes and I want a comment about what you intend to do about the TONS of litter always left by your mates in XR after their protests and how you intend to make your kids TVs, games consoles, iphones and tablets out of wood in the future, bleeding dolphin friendly vegan wood please.


  14. Guest Who says:



    Sky is clearly as aware of public mood as the BBC?


    • Guest Who says:

      I might be reading this incorrectly. But a bloke came here leaving the fam behind, got British, then went back to rescue them?

      The rest is of course tragic, but just who is where claiming to be what is most confusing.


      • BRISSLES says:

        Its that dilemma of what is known as a ‘British National’ – who exactly are they ?


        • theisland says:

          With few exceptions, ‘British nationals’ and ‘British Muslims’ are not Britons and never will be or can be, however much the lefties wish it so or say it is so. Their ‘connection’ is purely administrative (British passport holders). Some may integrate and be useful members of society, but for the most part their strongest allegiances will lie elsewhere because they have no deep visceral and overwhelming link to this land forged over many, many generations.


          • brexiteerkent says:

            What that sky article didn’t print about the ‘uk taxi driver’ was a quote from ‘Imran Niazi a friend’ which was in the Telegraph today as follows : ” He came here in 2004 and met his wife BACK HOME in 2012 but she was still living in Afghanistan because she kept failing her English language test’
            So, true Brits as always .. ‘ Home ‘ is Afghanistan and wife he wanted to bring over from there can’t speak English.
            How many times have we ourselves heard similar ‘British’ people referring to ‘Home’ thousands of miles away.
            … As for him having had four children .. So far …
            For every dinghy single male arrival there will be the wife they bring over .. Children, cousins etc etc ..


    • Dobyns says:

      If the barracks were good enough for our lads, they’re good enough for these illegal aliens.

      If they don’t like it let them pi** off back to where they came from.

      As my Mum used to tell me, “Put up or shut up”


    • G says:


      “……..they found the site difficult to deal with psychologically.”

      Well, allocate them a group psychologist 24/7, preferably 20/28 years of age and, and, and, female. I’m sure she could assist.


    • Banania says:



  15. Zephir says:

    I look forward to the sounds of clogs soon as our millenial vegans will not wear leather and of course plastic is anathema.
    Carpentry is a dying trade…but maybe they can cobble something together with brown rice and moss or something.. bearing in mind few are interested in science as an academic pursuit, too rigorous, in fact few seem to be barely literate, I suspect precious few viable alternatives will be forthcoming, the future looks….hypocritical…I am sure Apple, Nike, Dell products were not made in the woodlands from local resources


  16. Zephir says:

    Try telling Millicent and Oliver while they are blocking the roads in Cambridge for a week to give up their Counterstrike and Minecraft and play pooh sticks, Cleudo or chess and draughts instead….hmm


  17. Guest Who says:


  18. vlad says:

    Savour the taste of truth: Once again, GB News going where the BBC daren’t.

    Tobias Ellwood, Chair of the Defence Select Committee, is scathing on the Imbecile’s Afghan withdrawal: its implications for security; China, Iran and Russia; and the new world order.

    But most significantly, at the end he makes a point that Al Beeb would never allow.

    He highlights the need to challenge the ideology behind terrorism, i.e. Islam.

    “Until we challenge this ideology that an individual can be persuaded to put on a suicide vest and blow himself up, and be rewarded with a fast-track place to paradise, no amount of drone strikes will make the world any safer whatsoever. We failed in our strategy to deal with the ideology, and as long as that ideology is there, Al Qaeda will be replaced by Daesh, will be replaced by another group in the future. And that is the challenge that we face over the next 20 years.”

    You listening BBC?

    Of course not, you disgusting woke cowards.


    • JimS says:

      If you have abandoned the faith of your ancestors and managed to persuade the remaining leaders of that faith that everything about that faith is wrong and that it has instead to adopt the immorality of the unfaithful it must be easy to believe that you can do the same to Islam.

      Where that fails is that Christianity is the faith of the meek whilst Islam is the faith of the strong.


    • theisland says:

      Ellwood hasn’t done much about this ideology swamping the UK though, has he? Has he spoken up against the enablement of unfettered ‘migration’ or the grooming gangs (rape jihad)? Also he was a Remainer and all for our joining the EU Common Security and Defence Policy, with all the strings attached.


    • taffman says:

      Tuning in to GB News is a breath of fresh air and a relief from watching and listening to Al Beeb.
      Tobias Ellwood appears to have his ‘finger on the pulse’.
      Al Beeb are traitors and hate Great Britain, do you agree ?
      Joe Biden has to go along with our Woke Johnson, do you agree ?


  19. Guest Who says:

    Savouring an awesome local Porter as the boys spin up a steak, so got to pondering.

    WW2, Korea and Vietnam were pretty full on, all hands involved, total conflicts with some fairly hairy excesses all round militarily.

    Yet Germany, Japan, N&S Vietnam did not take long to put the past behind them and move on, within borders.

    What, precisely, has changed since such that it seems inevitable that utterly alien cultures that have screwed themselves up to not defend themselves and then export their unique brand of victimhood mixed with demanding excess and violence to the places dumb enough to try and help?


  20. vlad says:

    Has anyone else noticed that Joe Biden has that same demonically possessed stare that son Hunter has? I used to think that in crackhead Hunter’s case it was the effect of years of cocaine abuse, sexual depravity and who knows what satanic practices. But Joe?

    Is this the first case of DNA being passed upwards to the previous generation?

    Any geneticists out there?


  21. BRISSLES says:

    Apologies but this isn’t the BBC – but Sky is just as bad (but doesn’t rob us blind). Have to get this off my chesticles.

    Foreign Affairs Editor (a bloody Editor !) – Deborah Haynes – needs firing. She has reported all her foreign reports from her sitting room in deepest war torn Kent, while her colleague Stuart Ramsay has been at the bullet end of his reports in Kabul.

    She is clearly an intelligent woman, despite looking 14 years old and sounding the same, but I can only stomach her for less then a minute when she starts her monologue report on auto text. I dread to think how she’d reply (if she could) if one of her colleagues actually asked her a question. Money for old rope.


  22. Zephir says:

    So, we have failed to stop fanatical tribes ripping eachothers throats out as they have been doing for hundreds of years, as they are happy to do whilst worshipping some god or other, and committing horrendous violence upon eachother whilst going to praise their god every week, and attacking other countries.

    What do we do but take the losers into our country, not victims, just losers they prey upon the weak, in this case, the unarmed. what a bonus for them armed with a knife or a gun in this country.

    Funny, terrorist attacks, homosexuals assaulted or jews attacked rarely happens in our towns or villages after Sunday church

    The armed police at Kings Cross yesterday were not there for the usual drunks or for some 16 year old in his bedroom with a swastika on his wall despite what the far left bbc will tell you and will desperately repeat


    • Up2snuff says:

      When you see armed police patrolling Canterbury Cathedral you know something has gone seriously wrong!


  23. Zephir says:

    The future of our country thanks to muslim immigrants and the failure of UK immigration services

    or maybe the labour party desperate for votes at any cost



  24. Zephir says:

    And the future of our world via the bbc is that a degenerate politician can apparently get one of the largest votes in the history of US elections, yet be unable to string a lucid sentence together, and NOTHING is said on our “world Class ” bbc, oh yes that is what they think they are, who spent every week over the last four years attacking Donald Trump….and all of a sudden fall silent whilst this idiot embarrasses himself on the world stage
    And no snidey muzzie or other bbc comedians who have been making a career about Trump suddenly have anthing to say ?

    come on bbc comedy muzzies, hes an idiot, any one can see hes a complete and utter incompetent, come on pet bbc muzzie ? anyting Nish anything to say ?

    We loved your Trump stuff anything and everything from his wife to his kids to the colour of his face,,,,,

    but now your mouth is shut
    now THATS funny

    Wheres the famous Nish ? so much to say before …


  25. Sluff says:

    BBC reporting a fishing boat with over 500 migrants on board off the coast of Italy.

    ‘Women and children were among those on board’ it says in the text.

    But there is a photo. Spotting the ‘women and children on board’ is like a really difficult example of ‘Where’s Wally’. The boat is full of almost exclusively young males ‘of colour’.

    Yet from the BBC. Nothing. From the wimmin’s pressure groups. Nothing. Dust. Sweep. Carpet. Under.

    These young male economic chancers are running for Europe and somewhere they have wantonly left behind a hell of a lot of lone women and children.

    And LeftMob roll out the red carpet to welcome people with such morals. Young women in our northern towns may not be quite so happy about it.


    • Zephir says:

      Always find this place strange, adverts begging us to stop children getting raped, genitally mutilated and into forced marriaged in their teens in Africa by giving them money and then letting the very bastards that do it into our country and give them money and houses confuses me.
      I spend my money on saving songbirds and red squirrels, although the cat is working on mice and voles judging on the recent surprises in our bed
      I can only assume presented as an offset to the catfood bill. like the mummified dead bird last week, and regarding the last vole, genital or other mutilation was not on her agenda, although the wife is still in trauma waking up to it.


  26. taffman says:

    Who cut our armed forces ?
    Who cut our police?
    Who ensures the continuation of Al Beeb with its archaic funding ?


    • Zephir says:

      A Simple answer for you :
      YOU did not help much by criticising that my posts were not specifically related to the bbc ( called arse licking after the usual suspects had made an objection,and even worse, cowardice, waiting for others to kick in before you added like UP2n the worst snide) and I ended up being banned from the site by losing my temper with DELETED ABUSE ….

      and yet you spend your time talking about non bbc things DELETED ABUSE

      I always check in to see the usual twats in their echo chamber, echoing around the valleys in Wales and always victims of something or other, be it King Edward, the Romans or ayone elese they always end up on their knees MODERATOR – MODERATE YOUR LANGUAGE


      • taffman says:


        Best not to lose your temper, it’s not good for your health.
        I don’t think we end up on our knees . Ask yourself the question , “ why are there so many castles in Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿“ ?


    • Doublethinker says:

      Even if we had services double or treble the size that they are now r politicians don’t have the will to use them. Same with border force etc etc . We could easily defend our selves and our country if those in charge had the will to do so but they don’t it’s the same right across the West , the politicians won’t use the superior forces to defend their people and countries. Only in the Visegrad group et al are there leaders who actually put the well being of their people first. The rest are just liberal puppets scared of Guardian or BBC editorials .


  27. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Since the fall of the American supported Afghanistan Government has anyone noticed any CHANGES in the way that the BBC are now reporting (or not reporting) certain sexual attacks, sexual abuse cases, and certain gang crime networks, run by either immigrants of a certain origin or by asylum seekers and “foreign nationals”, especially in the midlands and northern areas of England as well as across Europe?


  28. taffman says:

    “Europe migrant crisis: More than 500 people rescued off Italian island”
    “Most arrive from countries that do not qualify for asylum.”
    How many women and children in the photograph?
    The EU is responsible for the mess we are in .
    I. Merkel invited the third world in………..
    2. The EU has not secured its borders.
    3. We have a woke PM and a totally useless Home Secretary unable to stop the EU and France dumping the third world upon us .


  29. Zephir says:

    And in concord with the aims of this site, as you are so enthusiastic about, and people stick to bbc biase, and how you drill down upon Maxiconomy and his lack of criticism of the bbc you may have included one referece to the bbc there but the rest is just, as Maxiconomy, no evidence to prove just a far rifght opinion


    • taffman says:

      I post on this site because I am of the opinion that Al Beeb is biased, so Zephir, what’s your opinion on maxincony’s posts ?


      • Zephir says:

        taffys questions, NOTHING to do with the bbc:

        Who cut our armed forces ?
        Who cut our police?

        to quote you when you are brown nosing Fedup2 about others posts: “what has that got to do with the bbc?”

        in a nutshell < hypocritical twat

        but, hypocrisy has never bothered you or certain others on this site when it suits them, when their tongue needs to be inserted in orifices

        as for Maxi you get what you deserve, as above, you and upsnuff are the worst and it is entertaining to see Maxi reminding you of your frequent stupidity


        • taffman says:

          Touched a nerve there Zephir eh?
          maxincony, Like one or two others on this site, is a troll.
          He never criticises Al Beeb , he just defends them .
          One positive note, he rarely looses his temper or uses offensive language .
          May I suggest you have a look at all my previous posts before you rant away.
          By the way, are you still paying the telly tax ?


        • Fedup2 says:

          Moderator writing . Control your language on this site or be gone . Ive edited a couple of your entries . As for ‘ brown nosing ‘ im too long in the tooth for that – but abuse is another matter.

          And just to be predictable – try to focus on BBC related issues – i know it is dificult because the monster infects everything – using the Goeballs playbook .

          Happy Bank Holiday ..


          • Dover Sentry says:

            I’m not posting on here again whilst Zephir is around.

            He needs to go.


            • Zephir says:

              diversity of opinion is not encouraged on the beaches of Dover, one reason why you are standing alone up to your ankles in seaweed and dead jellyfish maybe


            • Fedup2 says:

              Dover- thank you for your comment .,


              • JohnC says:

                Is it possible to have an ‘ignore’ option for people ?.

                It would be sweet to have maxi posting his cherry-picked snippets to an audience where every single one has put him on the ignore list.


  30. JohnC says:

    BBC: Europe migrant crisis: More than 500 people rescued off Italian island


    Another boatload of women and children saved.


  31. JohnC says:

    Afghanistan: Biden says another Kabul airport attack likely

    “This strike was not the last. We will continue to hunt down any person involved in that heinous attack and make them pay,” Mr Biden said in a statement released on Saturday.

    This is a very significant statement. Not because of the rhetoric it contains but the fact that it was released as a statement instead of Joe standing in front of a camera. No President would miss such a PR opportunity.

    So they are finally keeping him away from the cameras. We all know why – but it seems we have reached a new stage of his deterioration.

    Despite his unpleasant character which is becoming increasingly apparent, I am starting to feel sorry for Joe. It’s turned into a grotesque, degrading farce and Joe is going out without a shred of dignity.
    And absolutely no mention of it by the BBC. They only have journalistic standards and ethics when it suits their agenda.
    When Joe is finally removed, I’m quite sure the BBC already have their excuse as to why they never questioned his fitness for office. I wonder what it will be. It certainly won’t be the truth.


  32. Scroblene says:

    Do I read too many Agatha Christie novels, or does this sound odd?

    (From The Sunday Express about Ms Brammar)…

    “Senior BBC colleagues are worried about the Brammar controversy triggering wider criticism about BBC bias and that efforts by the news supremo’s friends to try to burnish her image will backfire against the Corporation.

    Many fear that Ms Brammar’s views will be always be used against the BBC, forever raised in any cases when it is accused of political bias”.

    If I was watching ‘Hustle’, she’d be a ‘mark’ for blackmail…

    If I was watching ‘Dad’s Army’, I’d be brainwashed into thinking she will stand up for normal citizens like a True Brit…

    But If I was watching ‘Foyle’s War’, I’d assume she was a ‘plant’ from the start…

    (Sunday conspiracies – dontcha just luv’em)!


  33. AsISeeIt says:

    You’ll have noticed a lot of supposed news these days amounts to little more than the passing on of some organisation’s press release. The amply funded and massively staffed BBC, which really ought to be the home of investigative reporting, is in fact a prime offender.

    One optimistically persists with reading beyond their click-baity headlines, but learns nothing other than the line the organisation concerned has released, with occasionally some additional spokesperson’s attributed blandishments, and perhaps a modicum of background embellishment the so-called journalist took five minutes to google care of Wikipedia.

    Here comes a classic case in point: ‘Royal College of Nursing moves conference online after sex harassment claims… By George Bowden BBC News‘ – for clarification – he’s the BBC’s so-called reporter, not the supposed sexual harrassment claiment.

    Will we get the famous journalistic Five W’s – “Who,” “What,” “When,” “Where,” and “Why” – from our George – graduate of the BBC’s Internship Programme, 2014, no less?

    I’m afraid you can bet your licence fee we won’t…

    The RCN did not provide any further details of the allegations

    Tell us George, did you by any chance don your scuffy rainmac, hot foot it to some dubious drinking hole with your tatty note pad and stub of a pencil to maybe tap up some loose-tongued contact for the inside gist, or at least phone around a bit?

    In a statement, the RCN said its elected council “decided the best way to safeguard members attending congress is to move this year’s meeting to a fully virtual event”

    So, we’ll leave it at that, will we?

    You betcha. ‘Carol Popplestone, the council chair, said: “We have acted fast and took a unanimous decision that protects all attendees” – which, apparently is good enough for our incurious George.

    Oh, he does, as predicted, have access to google: ‘The 2019 congress took place in Liverpool from 19 to 23 May. The RCN describes itself as the world’s largest nursing union…‘ blah-de-blah…

    One feels a tad guilty for singling out our poor George, but really he’s got a bloody nerve putting his name as byline to what amounts to nothing more than a bland PR relaese via the BBC from the RCN.

    Not that our print press cover themselves in glory this weekend telling us much that we didn’t already know. Or what various organisations wanted to tell us.

    I was trying to recall that other journalistic mantra… I googled “news is what people don’t want you to know” and guess what google delivered as first response?

    A BBC report on “Why some people don’t want a Covid-19 vaccine

    Well, you know what they say, it’s not a conspiracy if it’s true.

    The phrase I was attempting to recall was: “News Is What Somebody Does Not Want You To Print. All the Rest Is Advertising

    The earliest example of an expression to this effect was published in 1918 in a New York periodical called “The Fourth Estate: A Newspaper for the Makers of Newspapers”. The words were printed on a sign at a journalist’s desk, and no precise attribution was given. So now we know.

    In a week when we heard they are coming for our plastic cutlery, having previously come for our plastic straws and hardly anyone complained, the Sunday People and stablemates Sunday Mirror merrily advertise giveaway sets of plastic felt tip pens. One forsees an Extinction Rebellion future where we’re reduced to quill pens (so long as the quill birds ain’t extinct yet) and a mix of spit and our own dirt for ink.

    The Mirror goes with: ‘Exclusive: International conman posed as Olly Murs to fleece lovestruck women out of £200,000

    One heartbroken single mum , who lost almost £80,000, told the Sunday Mirror: “He completely fooled me and I gave him everything. I was convinced it was Olly. I thought we’d spend the rest of our lives together.”

    The Sunday Mirror contacted the fraudster on several email addresses he gave victim her (sic), and has received no response. A spokesman for Vienna police confirmed it had launched a fraud investigation into the case. The real Olly did not comment.

    Well at least the Mirror jounos appear to have attempted to move this story on. Which is more than appears to be the case for the BBC in the RCN’s sex scandal as excuse for cancelling their conference story. Is it safe for patients to enter hospitals we wonder? They are stuffed with nurses.

    Meanwhile the Mirror’s main news headline is another inglorious tilt at Boris: ‘Our blood on your hands, Boris. Hero translater who saved lives of our soldiers shames PM‘ – lets not forget our soldiers would never have been sent out to any these trashcanistans if it were not for 911. And in case the Labour supporting Mirror hadn’t noticed, Joe Biden not Boris ordered the quick retreat.

    Britsh troops help last evacuee to climb airport fence‘ (Telegraph) – those uniformed Brits don’t have the Monopoly on social service, they are simply emulating their Border Force comrades who help refugees paddle the Channel to pass Go and collect benefits. Or there’s the rainbow vehicular cops and their Get Out Of Jail Free for muggers and burglars, whilst they’re super busy satisfying the pride of the Twitter Community Chested trans community.

    Still, there’s been precious little glory or daring do in the doomed British Afghan mission. Looking for a stirring tale of excitement? Try the Mail on Sunday: ‘Confessions of an emotional overeater. The most powerful account of a woman’s weight battle you’ll ever read‘ – I’ll pass, thanks.


    • Up2snuff says:

      AISI, yet another brilliant one but you’ve missed out ‘Who’. It doesn’t rhyme without the ‘Who’ as in ‘Who Are You’. 😉 just one more for this weekend’s collection. Rudyard might be spinning in his grave.


  34. Fedup2 says:

    Now it is just the US versus the ISIS in afgee. So pleased we got our troops out safely – now control our borders .

    The afgee civil war starts now – with plenty of american weaponry to fuel it . And its those weapons which are out biggest threat now …

    Apart of course from a false US President and Dementia sufferer.


    • JohnC says:

      The sheer magnitude of the amount of equipment they now have is staggering. 40,000 pickups, 20,000 humvees, 928 mine-proof vehicle, nearly 200 APC’s, 110 helicopters … the list is endless.

      They say it’s $80 billion worth in a country whose entire GDP is only $20 billion. The Taliban are now armed to the teeth.

      That alone should be reason enough to impeach Biden. And the astute BBC observer will notice how they are keeping very quiet about it.


      • Guest Who says:

        Once they figure out how to lob a few kids into La Manche, Mo’s Jeep and Humvee sales in Bradford should be propping up a few Labour MPs soon.


      • Up2snuff says:

        JohnC, if only they had put a fraction of that money on the head of Osama bin Laden and his gang. Stupid is as stupid does.


      • pugnazious says:

        Can’t be true….we were told the Afghan army was ready to fight to the death…but couldn’t because it had no decent weaponry and equipment…so they were basically forced to surrender by a group of blokes in sandals armed with worn out AKs, RPGs and some heavy machine guns with a few mortars as well….no armour, no aircraft, no highly trained special forces. Then again Biden surrendered to the same mob so can’t complain.


  35. Guest Who says:

    Is this lady for real? As in, an Uncle Ben sense?

    One for Springster?


    • pugnazious says:

      Dear BBC..you haven’t got a lot of time left so we’ll keep this short.

      Your reporting doesn’t represent me, my views, opinions or indeed the real world….it is biased, dishonest disinformation that corrupts our democracy, our government and our society.

      Therefore you are being cancelled…no taxation without representation….the sooner you understand this the better…the problem won’t go away if you ignore it….it is, I might remnd you, a criminal offence to support terror groups…such as Islamists, the IRA, BLM and Extinction Rebellion…and a breach of your charter to campaign on behalf of such groups and others (such as the Labour Party) and pump out a relentless diet of fake news and lies on their behalf.

      A refund of the licence fee, indeed ‘reparations’ to those ‘othered’, maligned and abused by your journalism, will be expected…you can pay by instalment if you find payment difficult.

      Yours sincerely



  36. Guest Who says:

    Imagine if Asok was, say, female, and on the top floor of the BBC…


    Quid Is In.


  37. Sluff says:

    Not so much BBC but more……google.

    In the heat of the much-derided fiasco of the evacuation from Kabul you might think that Biden as POTUS. would be far, far more to blame than Ttrump, who left office 7 months ago. Right? Err, wrong.

    Out of curiosity I googled ‘Trump blamed’ and sure enough there are several references to Trump being blamed for the current Kabul situation, among other nuances.

    Then I googled ‘Biden blamed’. There are fewer direct criticisms and the nuances include Biden doing the blaming ( for the bomb attack).

    So then i googled ‘bbc blame biden’ and there are hardly any entries that actually do that.

    A small experiment but neatly and rather irrefutably reveals the general MSM bias.


  38. Guest Who says:

    Simpo had a heads up from Jez and Sopes how this might have come about, or they all sticking with emoting now over… ‘analysis’?


  39. Zephir says:

    When 25% of the Pentagon budget is unaccounted for, little on the world stage happens by chance, what one has to ask is who benefits, or who benefits over the next few years.

    And the MSM would have us believe that no one can keep secrets for long.. the atom bomb was developed for many years and no one knew, with thousands of employees, until it was used, the NSA was working for 30 years until it was announced as an organisation, etc etc

    Biden has little to do with this as anyone who watches him can see,

    who sells guns and bombs..
    and who was vilified for 4 years for negotiating peace deals


  40. Zephir says:

    Eisenhowers farewell speech:

    Despite his military background and being the only general to be elected president in the 20th century, he warned the nation with regard to the corrupting influence of what he describes as the “military-industrial complex”.

    Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense. We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security alone more than the net income of all United States corporations.

    Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence—economic, political, even spiritual—is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet, we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources, and livelihood are all involved. So is the very structure of our society.

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.[1]


  41. vlad says:

    Oh great: we knew Biden was fake, we knew he was anti-British, we knew he was incompetent, and now we learn he’s vindictive and will make us pay.

    Telegraph: “Joe Biden ‘holds grudges’ and will punish Britain for Afghanistan criticism, allies say.”

    So we’ve gone from the front of the queue under Trump to back of the queue and due for punishment under The Imbecile.

    I hope all the useful idiots at the BBC and other media are proud. By their constant denigration of Trump and promotion of Biden, they will have played a part in putting the Imbecile in power, who has already done us untold damage internationally and now has it in for us.



    • Zephir says:

      The economic influence of the USA roams far and wide, controlling central American governments via terrorists in particular, Africa and the middle east are up for grabs and it is no coincidence that declaring our independence via brexit has consequences, whether you choose to believe the Biden puppet has any particular influence or not is up to you, why one of the biggest world powers decided to intervene with the IRA is a moot point see above with central america

      Possibly our best hope is to give up the commonwealth and just become a non partisan village like New Zealand or Switzerland and maybe they will leave us alone


  42. vlad says:

    Has anyone seen the wreckage from the so-called drone attack against ISK that the BBC mindlessly and uncritically parrot?

    It looks like an auto-rickshaw of some description.

    Given that the jihadis in Afghanistan now have the pick of top-drawer military vehicles Biden kindly gave them, would their top ‘planners’ and commanders really go into battle in a tuk-tuk?


    • JimS says:

      Without all the logistics back-up of the US military I doubt if much of the abandoned kit has gone anywhere with the Taliban.

      I rather suspect that it will be traded with others in the anti-Western Alliance for stuff that tribal warriors can use.


  43. Zephir says:

    How much does a weaponised drone cost ? just asking, how many hundreds of thousands in whose bank balance and everyone happy to spend this

    sorry I was wrong it is millions,

    “Weaponised drones are not cheap: experts say the starting price for the technology is about $15m (£12m) per unit, with more for add-ons, on top of the training and the crews needed to pilot them. ”

    They have lready started the big sale whilst we are beseiged with adverts also asking us to give to war torn regions and charities win win really for sellers of all kind

    Convince everyone these drones are a good thing because they kill an arab sheep farmer with a rusty Lee Enfield in his hut to keep off the wolves.. yep you’ve sold me


    • JimS says:

      It’s called asymmetric warfare.

      You either fight cheap and dirty, and take the casualties, or you pay big bucks and fight from an armchair.

      That does mean that one side sits obeying ‘rules of engagement’ on billions of dollars of kit while the other is a civilian, until they detonate the dollar’s worth of semtex in their opponents lap.

      C’est la guerre moderne


      • Zephir says:

        WHO pays big bucks by the way and who chooses the enemy ?if they want cheap and dirty maybe fight their own war let the arabs do what they want as long as we have the oil we need


  44. G.W.F. says:

    Funny how Isil K turns up just like the Delta variant.

    It seems that Isil K can now be regarded as the bad Moslems since the US and our media are accepting that the Taliban are not so bad after all.


    • Zephir says:

      As the Sex Pistols commented, ever felt cheated ?


    • JohnC says:

      Did the BBC mention how the Taliban cut womens fingers off if they are caught wearing nail varnish yet ?.
      They hypocrisy here is off the scale.


  45. StewGreen says:

    9am R4’s woke-bubbleworld show Broadcasting House
    At 9:45am the newspaper review panel were ranting against two Telegraph stories

    #1 Top scholars launch fightback against woke brigade’s ‘blatantly false’ reading of history
    Leading academics join forces for History Reclaimed campaign aimed at calling out misleading narratives about historical figures

    #2 Telegraph poll
    “The BBC is considered more biased than GB News,
    according to a poll
    which also found that one in three people describe the corporation as “woke”
    A survey found that 42 per cent of respondents believed that the BBC was biased, compared to 27 per cent who said the same of GB News
    (That’s all silly headline stuff, polls are almost always rubbish)

    The BBC panel kept saying “but woke means being aware of social and racial injustice”
    No woke means a distortion of caring as you prioritise being seen to be good rather than actually being good.


  46. Zephir says:

    Being aware of social and racial injustice just may apply to ignoring black stabbers, ignoring PC Blaklocke hacked to death by rabid blacks who, feeling so opressed all happened to have knives and machetes to hand, to hack him to death and rant on and on about Stephen Lawrence because it was white people who killed him

    Who remembersthis policeman’s life, who talked to his family ? we are all painfully aware of this victims family but never aware of the mother or father or wife of a policeman hacked to death not the woke bbc yet itv are again banging in about the other murder how many bleeding years now ? how many black stabbers in London each year ?

    is the mother in line for the next pope ?

    I used to enjoy the comedy of Alan Partridge now his fake earnestnest in the latest oh how awful without any reference to the many whites killed by blacks just turns my stomach

    If one wants to create racial divide and resentment the bbc are the experts


    • Zephir says:

      And, a little aside, most of the police harrasment of blacks in the seventies was due to prostitution, that they struggled to prove in court they are predators, not victims, just like gypsies EVERYONE knows that

      and Blair gave them special rights in return for his votes they will scream that you are a racist if you fight back as they mug you, or abuse you it is their special word given to them by the far left


  47. Tabs says:

    BBC News Channel is showing a very long propaganda piece about climate change (TM).

    Just about every bit of mobile phone footage of a flooded section of road (most likely due to block drains) is being presented as ‘climate change’. Some climate expert just said “the world is burning”.

    It just ended with a bit of phone footage of a dust devil as more evidence of climate change ffs.


  48. Zephir says:

    David Attenborough, Donch ya jsut luv him, ees so good he tell us the ice caps are melting in an interglacail period what duz that mean then ?

    oh, flooding then, where dose the water come from ? it must be that climate change thing wiv plastic an new boilers and stuff

    Im gonna block a road to stop this

    BTW this is going to cost you an absolute fortune
    but its k cost me nuffunk, cos i dont work and my family pay for me


    • Up2snuff says:

      Zephir, it means he’s starting to hedge his bets just a little bit. Much like Tony Blair & Co did with ‘Climate Change’ in 1998 & 1999. Just in case the ol’ Global Warmin’ don’t turn up on time …. again.


      • Zephir says:

        they all do, all sing the party song, now it is less song more far left social media rants having epxerince of real politik RE singkle muvva breeders and the disabiltys (fat, too fat to get into thr door, and a 68 plrte car given) one does wondert#

        probably no need to mention but none fron the UK


  49. Zephir says:

    If you are a scientist you can either prove or disprove, so goes the mantra, we all know how that works, an example. can anyone here go to visit a T Rex complete fossil ?

    If not why not despite volumes spouted about them, how they walk and run but NEVER a a complete fossilized skeleton, NEVER

    yet they say they know so much..


  50. pugnazious says:

    Bit rich of Andrew Neil to complain about Islamist ideology when he and the beloved BBC has done so much to support it. The Andrew Neil who, in cooperation with the Islamist weasel Mehdi Hasan, tried to smear and malign Tommy Robinson who was raising awareness of…er…dark Islamic practices…in Britain.

    When the BBC champions extremists like Cage and Mend and the MCB, stating that the MCB is the most representative group for British Muslims, you know there’s a problem here in our own backyard. The MCB is just the Taliban in hiding, it is a front group for the Muslim Brotherhood…a terrorist group. The MCB’s ‘Conservative Islam’ is the Taliban…or as the BBC says..a ‘strict interpretation of Islam’…ie the real and original Islam…and as Islam is meant to be unchangeable and not open to interpretation any other is not authentic.

    Yasmin Alibhai Brown….

    ‘Across the West – for a host of reasons – millions of Muslims are embracing backward practices. In the UK young girls – some so young that they are still in push chairs – are covered up in hijabs. Disgracefully, there are always vocal Muslim women who seek to justify honour killings, forced marriages, inequality, polygamy and childhood betrothals. Why are large numbers of Muslim men so terrorised by the female body and spirit? Why do Muslim women encourage this savage paranoia?

    The rapid spread of rigid, diehard Islam is deeply worrying. Yet those in power, focused on terrorist cells, seem oblivious to this other peril.

    For many of us Muslims, this creeping Talibanisation of childhood is unendurable.

    On September 10, 2001, in a newspaper column, I condemned the brutal Taliban rulers in Afghanistan, where girls and women, shrouded in full burkas, were beaten and denied health and education.

    Joy was banished, as it was in China during the Cultural revolution. Unless stopped, I wrote, the Taliban would extend their reach beyond Afghanistan.

    The very next day, Taliban-backed Al Qaeda operatives hijacked planes and brought down the Twin Towers.

    The U.S., Britain and other allies went into Afghanistan to fight a war that goes on and on. Two reasons were given: to stop Al Qaeda and liberate the people from the oppressive regime.

    I could never have imagined, nine years on, that the Taliban would be claiming to have ‘won the war’ in Afghanistan. [in 2010 lol]

    Or, much worse, that our politicians and Muslim ‘leaders’ here would allow their twisted ideology to spread across Britain.

    Make no mistake, Taliban devotees are in our schools, playgrounds, homes, mosques, political parties, public service, private firms and universities.

    And if we are to have any hope of combating them, we need to stop this attitude of appeasement and understand why so many Muslims are attracted to the most punishing forms of belief, suppressing women and children. ‘