Midweek Thread 1 September 2021

Two Thirds of 2021 gone – a pandemic -a military defeat- and a BBC so mired in its own propaganda – beyond bias – that the truth is alien to it .

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  1. Up2snuff says:

    Well maybe I have managed a first again. Thank you to Fed, Stew, Taffman and everyone else for holding the door open together with the hard-working Rufus McDufus beavering away in the background. Did you know having a beaver is a status symbol these days?

    I am wondering when the BBC’s obsession with Afghanistan will end? There’s a risk of compassion fatigue among the viewers and listeners.

    The end may come later this week. I see from the Daily Telegraph this time that the teaching unions are already threatening our Government. Who needs the Taliban when you have the Telly Taxatious BBC, the Civil Service, the Trade Unions, the devolved Governments and Her Majesty’s Loyal (ahem!) Opposition all working against you?

    Back to School and In Place of Strife.


    • taffman says:

      Thank you for the mention , you are too kind .

      Here is a word of WARNING to all on this site. There are one or two posters that bear ‘false flags’ posting anti-Al Beeb comments . They will deliberately use bad language and comments that could be labelled as using ‘foul’ or ‘racist’ language. This could be an excuse for the site to be ‘taken down’.
      But beware, they could actually be working for Al Beeb, deliberately using offensive posts to achieve such ends.

      Finally, a big thank you to all those those you mention.


  2. StewGreen says:

    BBC Local news and ITV locals news
    reported that “There’s a cabbage farmer that normally uses East European workers ..can’t get British workers even though he’s offering £20 hour”
    .. What do you reckon is that a true story
    Or a thing that anti-Brexiteers really want to believe is true
    and pushed into the newspapers ?

    but the local BBC enviro activist reporter is a true believer


    • StewGreen says:

      Cabbages can be harvested by machine
      The idea that you can earn
      £20/hr 8 hours a day 7 days per week
      seems to break the “too wow to be true” rule

      Yes there is a 2018 article that says that that grower cuts by hand
      but he could use machines if he wanted


      • StewGreen says:

        In June that same farm was advertising for a Quality/Technical Manager for Fresh Produce £25,000 – £40,000 a year
        That’s £500pw or £100/day
        It listed the experience needed
        If I try to look at jobs on the firm’s website it forces me to LinkedIN.com where you have to be logged in.

        Usually they advertise at Indeed.com, but the page is currently blank

        nearby Morrisons are advertising
        Warehouse Perm from day one, £9.60 to £13.81 per hour,


        • StewGreen says:

          13th June the Metro printed
          “In an email to customers, Simon Naylor, of Naylor Farms in Lincolnshire,
          said: ‘To keep people we have raised wages by 60% to nearly £20 per hour for packhouse staff and from this week we are having to pay them to turn up at £20 a day for a weekday and £30 for weekends. “

          I see no evidence that that is a regular wage people are paid for simple harvest work


      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        I am always suspicious about ‘can’t get workers’ stories. I remember many years ago turning up for a range of job interviews only to be told “we have forty five applicants already”. Yet the stories in the press about employers not being able to find people were commonplace. Other people I knew found the same thing.


        • tarien says:

          My son is the MD of a sizeable employment organisation in the midlands and without doubt he is feeling the pinch as his company’s pool of workers for Land work, Building work, and delivery work and so on has greatly reduced-a number of factors have brought the shortages about, in particular the quality of the British employee as against the European employee is just not as good. A cousin has a large fruit grwoing business on the Surrey/Sussex borders-for years has employed Polish and Ukrainian workers and built houses for them. He told me that what they could earn in the UK would give them en excellent style of living in their home country. The few British workers has employed fell short in terms of work ethic and in some cases reliability, turning up late for work or not arriving at all, offering some excuse.


          • richardofkent says:

            You unknowingly explained the problem. Foreign workers come here and earn anywhere up to 10 times the average wage in their home country for a few years and then go home and build themselves a house and immediately become the richest person in the village. Whereas the same wage to a UK resident cannot get them on the property ladder. Pay the British worker, say, 5 times the average wage and most of them would work like a Pole,


    • Guest Who says:

      Think Brillo is thrilled at how things are panning out?


      • Guest Who says:

        At least they are not pink, or blue, but point taken. Eh, W1A Strumpets?


        • G.W.F. says:

          I despair of GBNews.


          • richardofkent says:

            The problem is that all of the senior managers and professional journalists have been educated at the same corrupt, marxist educational establishments. The only way to get people who represent the UK audience is to hire from that same pool.


      • Fedup2 says:

        You could have put up a warning saying “ beware – coked up loud airhead yapping with that scary certainty so often heard from climate types’ …


      • NCBBC says:

        She adorns everything that has only been made possible by the use of petro-chemicals.

        If she genuinely believes what she believes (and beliefs is all she has), she should strip down to nothing.

        People who shout the loudest on Climate Change and that we must destroy the economy, are the ones who know the least.

        If one genuinely believes that we have to do something about Climate Change, a good place to start, like Charity, is at home.

        1.Stop being a member of the “Throw-away-society”.

        2. Buy goods you really want, then buy ones that will still be good decades later.

        3. Eat wisely. Do not use good land that is essential for creating food, for stuff that is good only for putting in a vehicle.

        4. Learn something about Climate by first learning Classical Thermodynamics and Radiation.


    • tarien says:

      Well I’m very tempted even though I’m 79+, good lord if one worked 6 hours a day 5 days a week I recekon a person could earn before tax around £ 2400.00 per month-what the H is wrong with people? Firstly every single person claiming unemployment benefit should be made to take what ever job is offered subject to phyisical ability, otherwise the benefit would be halved-no tears please just get out there work you lazy so and so’s.


  3. Fedup2 says:

    Up2 – thanks – I think the Afgee situation will be run all the way to 9/11- unless – of course – there is an ‘event ‘ taking attention away .
    Biden will survive criticism – unless there is another attack on US interests …..


  4. Philip_2 says:

    The BBC’s shameless admission of bias
    In a welcome move last week, Ofcom publicly withdrew from Stonewall’s Diversity Champions programme, citing as the reason a need to avoid conflict or a risk of perceived bias (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/ofcom-withdraws-from-stonewall-lgbt-diversity-scheme/ar-AANK8Jn). They are the latest in a growing list of government departments and public bodies to acknowledge that the advice given by Stonewall is highly partisan, often factually inaccurate, and sometimes misleading. None of this, however, appears to have impacted on the BBC. In a statement issued on 26th August, the Corporation defiantly repeated its commitment to workplace inclusion, saying it would remain associated with Stonewall’s LGBTQ+ Diversity Champions’ programme (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bbc-defends-its-support-for-stonewall-programme-pdk3hhzxd).

    A sizeable number of BBC staff are reportedly deeply unhappy with this. Senior presenters and Staff point to the fact that Tim Davie, the director-general, has committed the corporation to prioritising neutrality….

    If evidence were needed of BBC bias, this is surely it. If ‘the final decision’ really does lie with the Corporation, then this is an open admission of LGBTQ+ prioritisation, because Auntie’s programming policy of recent years has, without exception, promoted same sex behaviour and lifestyle choices, unashamedly denigrating traditional moral positions as outdated and bigoted. It is hard in fact to find a programme these days that does not at some point positively portray an LGBT couple, with programmes such as Good Trouble, RuPaul’s Drag Race UK, and We Are Who We Are, celebrated for their ground-breaking and fearless depiction of LGBTQ-identified people, with a claim of complete parity between heterosexual and homosexual relationships, and between same sex and traditional marriage.

    On its website, the BBC still claims to uphold impartiality and the pursuit of excellence. It states unequivocally that its mission is ‘to act in the public interest, serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain’. Its Charter further asserts its commitment to independence, and to the provision of impartial news and information to help people understand and engage with the world around them. And it claims to reflect, represent and serve the diverse communities of all of the UK’s regions, reflecting the UK’s culture and values to the world (http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/about/how_we_govern/2016/charter.pdf).

    So why, one asks, is it so committed to prioritising the views and behaviours of a group that makes up at most, according the Office for National Statistics, 2.2% of the population (https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity

    This is a scandal no right-thinking Briton should accept. The truth is, we are being systematically and relentlessly brainwashed by LGBTQ+ activists, whose goal is not acceptance and equality, as claimed … but supremacy. Their underlying goal is regime change, and by the BBC’s continued support for Stonewall and its deservedly discredited Diversity Champions programme, the Corporation is not just signally failing to fulfil the terms of its Charter, but is revealing itself as a tool in the hands of sexual revolutionaries seeking to undermine and destroy the foundations of Western culture and society.

    Read more: Edited text from VOICE FOR JUSTICE


    • JimS says:

      I don’t think it is the LGBTQ+ who are the activists, rather it is the usual ‘smash the system’ rabble that are pushing LGBTQ+ -ism as a cause.

      In the same way there is no desire by these people to become Muslim themselves but they are quite happy to promote Islam in order to ‘smash’ the traditions derived from our christian heritage.


      • NCBBC says:

        America pushed LGBTQ, women’s rights etc, not just from their embassy via the Rainbow flag but throughout Afghanistan.

        In a deeply Islamic country, even women were appalled by something so anti everything that the Koran teaches, that they wished America be gone. It must be so in all Islamic countries and Muslims worldwide.

        Now Afghanistan has the largest and most sophisticated military arsenal bar America and China.


  5. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:


    Spot on!


  6. StewGreen says:

    So BBC Hull why would you do a special item about infant skateboard girls ?
    Facebook link Oh cos thy are headscarf wearers


  7. taffman says:

    “Afghanistan: Joe Biden defends US pull-out as Taliban claim victory”

    Surprise, surprise Al Beeb use the word “defends”.
    A term often reserved by Al Beeb against those it does not support or is against .


    • JohnC says:

      Another Biden speech carefully edited by the BBC to show him in a good light.

      The full speech is a very carefully rehearsed event with Joe painfully staring at the autocue, changing voice inflection to be angry etc when told just as Greta does and with the usual slurring of words.

      Then – at the end – he simply turns his back on the assembled media asking questions and walks out.

      About as far away from what you would expect as ‘President’ as you can get.


    • NCBBC says:

      This Taleban victory will be seen as a victory for Islamism, specially so as the forces of “unbelief” were far more powerful then the mujahideen. An unthinkable impossible victory has been given to them, as allah has weakened the will of the unbelievers. Its the reasonable conclusion for the believer.

      I hope that this wont lead to more terrorism within the West, but Its more likely it will, as Jihad will be seen as having divine blessing. This will lead to increasing restrictions on travel and human freedoms plus the continuing “lethal” flu restriction.


  8. tomo says:

    That’s enough Internet for today…


    • Scroblene says:

      First chuckle of the day, Tomo – thank you!


      Here’s another one (but not as funny)…

      “Jon Sopel”

      Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha – oh dear…


  9. JohnC says:

    Amid violent reprisals, Afghans fear the Taliban’s ‘amnesty’ was empty

    I’m more concerned about the goodwill shown to the Taliban by the BBC.

    These shameless hypocrites know full well what the Taliban are doing. And they always have. This ‘surprise’ is totally fake.

    They are deliberately reporting it in as favourable light as they can to support Biden and cover up the absolute disaster he has created. They seem to think saying ‘despite promises by the Taliban …’ is a reasonable excuse for why they never said anything earlier.

    Keeping Trump out is worth any number of tortured and murdered innocent people. This is the true face of the Left and the BBC. Just imagine what the coverage would have been like if this had happened under Trump.


  10. JohnC says:

    FBI hate crime reports spike to 12-year high in 2020

    What an absolutely typical BBC mish-mash of data and selective explanation to protect black people from any blame.

    Hate crimes against Asians up 70%. No mention of who are doing them.

    ‘Of the over 6,400 known offenders, 55% were white.’.
    Deliberately written to make you think white people are the most racist. And I’ll bet my house the majority of the remainder are black, not Asian.

    In a country where 72% of the population are white, it means 3,520 were white and the other 2,880 of those were committed by 28% of the population. This puts the ratio of offenders/population for white at 48% and for none white at 103%.

    In other words, according to these figures, none whites are more than twice as likely to commit hate crimes as whites.

    Another masterclass in deliberate agenda-based misrepresentation and omission by the BBC.

    Remind me again ‘Why you can trust the BBC’.


    • JohnC says:

      From the FBI page, in 2019 23.9% of hate-crime offenders were Black or African American and 52.5% were white people.

      Blacks make up 12.5% of the population and whites make up 72%. There are 5.76 times more white people than black people.

      Which means a black person is 2.6 times more likely to be guilty of committing a hate crime than a white person.

      Shame on you BBC for hiding that. Doesn’t fit the ‘victim of racism’ agenda at all does it ?.

      Edit: just found the 2020 report which states quite clearly that 20.2% of hate-crimes were by black people – only 12.5% of the population and which the BBC spectacularly omit from their article.


    • NCBBC says:

      It doesn’t require statistics to realise where most of the crime and violence, including violence on Asians, is coming from.

      Stats is generally used when its necessary to confuse and obfuscate.


  11. Zephir says:

    Defining an emotion as a crime is rather strange, all those anti marmite criminals


    • JohnC says:

      A hate crime doesn’t even need to involve hate according to the FBI definition. It just needs to involve bias.
      The Left are using traditionally extreme words and redefining them so they can use them as labels.
      Like ‘phobia’ in Islamophobia or Homophobia.
      Anyone have ‘Any morbid uncontrollable dread or fear’ of those ?.


      • Zephir says:

        A phobia is an overwhelming and debilitating fear of an object, place, situation, feeling or animal. Phobias are more pronounced than fears. They develop when a person has an exaggerated or unrealistic sense of danger about a situation or object

        and why should anyone be criticised for fear by, for example, muslims, who generally do liitle if anything to allay any fears, many of whom are aggressive and critical to anyone outside of their community, and do their best to protect all within their self imposed community including criminals


        • Zephir says:

          My mother had a phobia about snakes, she was not dragged onto bbc question time and ranted at about it


  12. Zephir says:

    About time some of these clowns are in court for happy crimes


  13. Scroblene says:

    From the BBC website by a certain Mr Zurcher…

    “Public opinion polls show Americans still support the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, although many are unhappy with how Biden oversaw the exit. White House officials say they hope, as time passes, that the nation will be grateful for what the president accomplished and forget the details of how it ended.”

    You can bet the house and all your belongings that our national broadcaster will make damned sure that ‘the details of how it ended’ will be swiftly forgotten.

    I’m sure that many more citizens won’t.


    • Guest Who says:

      The BBC often retreats behind polls it likes when things spiral.

      And Lurch should have that etched on the BBC N. America wall with a statue of Orwell corpsing, so he and Sopes are reminded daily of the shills they have become.


    • Guest Who says:

      And Naff makes him the lead in the Moaning Emole.



      By Nafeesa Shan

      Biden defends Afghan exit as Taliban celebrate

      Story detail

      Staying in Afghanistan was not an option, says US President Joe Biden, after the last troops withdrew as planned – despite earlier calls from world leaders to extend deadline day. “I was not going to extend this forever war, and I was not extending a forever exit,” Mr Biden says, defending the pull-out as the Taliban – ousted 20 years ago by US-led forces – celebrate what they describe as a victory. In his national address, the US president praised troops for evacuating more than 120,000 people, but questions remain over those desperate to flee but have been left behind.

      The US is promising to bring back those remaining 200 people as is the UK, which revealed it is in talks with the Taliban to ensure those eligible can leave safely. There are understood to be up to 250 people still in Afghanistan and any further Afghans evacuated who worked for the British military and UK government will – like those who have already fled – be entitled to move to the country permanently. These latest developments come as Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab faces questions by the Foreign Affairs Committee over his handling of the UK’s withdrawal later. However, the UK had no part in the decision to end foreign involvement in Afghanistan. That was made by Mr Biden, who tried to reframe US foreign policy as depending less on military deployments and more on diplomacy and international cooperation, says our North America reporter Anthony Zurcher.

      Sopes is clearly in deep cover.


      • Guest Who says:

        Also in the Mole… a very BBC headline.

        Extinction threat facing trees

        We often hear about wildlife facing extinction but it appears thousands of species of trees are also under the same threat. According to a new report, 17,500 types of trees in the world – that’s at least 30% – are at risk from disappearing in the wild through deforestation, logging and climate change. It’s twice the number of threatened mammals, birds, amphibians and reptiles combined and some trees you most probably will have heard of like oaks and magnolias. Some 142 species have already vanished and 442 are on the verge of extinction. For a healthy world, we need tree species diversity, says Sara Oldfield, from the Global Tree Specialist Group of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature. “We need to urgently scale-up conservation action,” she adds.

        Sara realise her group’s name needs its own server farm just to get out press releases to Naff?

        I wonder, is she blonde? (not Naff, obvs).


        • Demon says:

          Tree species will disappear much more quickly if we cut down on CO2 emissions. Trees need CO2 as anybody knows who isn’t stupid enough to be a “Climate scientist”.


      • Guest Who says:

        Then Hugh, who will always have Paris.

        Children fall victim to vicious French drug war

        Two weeks ago a 14-year-old boy called Rayanne was shot dead by a young man on a scooter outside the Les Marronniers housing estate where he lived in northern Marseille. Two other boys – one of 14, the other aged eight – were wounded in the attack. Over the following weekend three more people were murdered in Marseille, also in turf wars over drugs. One of them was burned alive in the boot of a car.

        So far this year there have been 15 gangland killings in France’s second city, 12 since the start of the summer. It’s not the mere numbers that are shocking. On that count, this year looks no worse than previous ones. Last year there were 28 deaths; in 2018 there were 23. In France headlines about score-settling are as regular as the seasons. What has people talking – and fretting – is the young age of so many of the victims.

        Read full article >

        Hugh Schofield
        BBC News, Paris

        Burned alive you say? Happens a lot.

        Still, there is always the annual burning of the Renaults in the capital outskirts to look forward to, too.

        How do such things come to happen now? It’s like a war zone… an imported one.


    • JohnC says:

      In other words, they support what Trump did and don’t support what Joe did.

      The BBC would rather stick pins in their eyes than admit that.


  14. Up2snuff says:

    Laugh a minute, BBC: FRAMING TODAY Anna Hill still bashing Brexit with the help of a turkey farmer somewhere, I switched on at the end of the programme so did not hear where. Sooner or later the BBC are going to have to accept that the Universal Credit scheme that they hated and tried – along with the some of the MSM to undermine and get cancelled – is actually good because it allows UK people to take short-term work and find jobs.

    (Actually, killing turkeys is a ‘skilled’ job and so, technically is not within the scope of a temporary low-skilled immigrant labourer, anyway.)

    Next, Chris Packham – the deserting/disappearing/sacked planet saver – has popped up off the coast of South America, if I recall my geography correctly (maxi warning – it’s possible to make mistakes)- in the Galapagos (how much CO2 to get there?) to present Tweet of the Day from a vegetarian bird; the Vegetarian Tree Finch.


    That bird obviously didn’t get or read the memo: it is meant to have gone vegan in 2020. Tsk tsk! {if that doesn’t make me sound like a vegetarian bird in print.) Disgraceful. The laughs continue on TOADY.


  15. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – BBC amnesia or dementia or laziness in cut’n’paste in the Fear Dept.?

    Trees are going extinct. Some scientists – who are obviously not paying attention – have done a study and claim that one in three, yes 1 in every 3, trees are going extinct. Actually, in reality, trees are being planted everywhere at present, including ‘native’ species because of the mad, crazy, headlong rush to CarbonNetZero.

    Pay attention, scientists.

    Pay attention BBC Editor of the Fear Department. Pay attention BBC Fear Dept. Chief Correspondent. Pay attention BBC underlings who do the work.


  16. Fedup2 says:

    I listened the BBC R4 7am propaganda announcements – previously called ‘news’. As a result I’m trying to formulate that standard news content . Roughly -its-

    1 a report by a lefty charity / institution criticising something
    2 something about green issues – negative of course
    3 Europe being better at something than UK
    4 a shortage of something
    5 some unknown coloured ‘ celebrity ‘has died
    6 it’s the anniversary of some lefty event / personality ….

    7 I left out a project fear item on brexit /covid ..

    8 a meaningless report on something what went avoidably wrong with lessons will be learnt’.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, this morning is not a ‘Just a Minute’ morning on TOADY but ‘Laugh a Minute’ with the Schadenfreude Meter needle bouncing beyond a Spinal Tap 11.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2 – you can feel that the BBC wants to get their false president off the hook as soon as they can ….and concentrate of the ( coming ) ‘failure ‘ to give every Afgee family a 4 bedroom council house ….

        Meanwhile the dinghies keep coming ….


        • Up2snuff says:

          Yes, indeedy – I’m going to have to resort to yet another TOADY Watch to keep up.


        • taffman says:

          Meanwhile the dinghies keep coming ….

          Now, who was it that said “if you come illegally We will send you back”? How many have been sent back so far?


  17. Zephir says:

    The bbc are expert at weasel words…”some scientists” hmm what defines a scientist, not too long ago this one was being celebated around the airwaves:

    “Doctor” no longer….

    smoh dear how sad, but then she never was in the first place, Gillian McKeith (born 28 September 1959) is a Scottish television personality, nutritionist and writer. She is the former host of Channel 4’s You Are What You Eat (2004–2007), Granada Television’s Dr Gillian McKeith’s Feel Fab Forever (2009–2010), and W Network’s Eat Yourself Sexy (2010). In 2008, she regularly appeared on the E4 health show Supersize vs Superskinny, and in 2010, she was a contestant on the tenth series of the ITV show I’m a Celebrity…Get Me Out of Here!

    Numerous dieting and lifestyle plans supported by McKeith, such as the concept of the detox diet and the value of colonic irrigation, are not supported by scientific research, nor are her claims that through examining people’s tongues and stool samples she can identify their ailments and dietary needs.[3][4][5] McKeith possesses no qualifications in nutrition or medicine from accredited institutions, and in 2007 agreed with the Advertising Standards Authority to stop using the title “Doctor”.

    McKeith is the author of several books about nutrition, including You Are What You Eat (2004) and Dr Gillian McKeith’s Ultimate Health Plan (2006), the first of these selling over two million copies. At the same time, the validity of her approach and the safety of her recommendations have been strongly criticised by health professionals.

    “some scientists”


  18. Guest Who says:


    Seems necessary. Interesting where BBC resources get devoted in force though.

    Comments are… varied.

    Funny way to sort out a flag. How did they manage back in the day?

    Still Saddo might snag an award for this.


    • Zephir says:

      “Snag an award”, see what you did there


    • Guest Who says:

      Anyhoo… she got a cookery book out?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Looks like ‘shayan’ is competition for the self publicising girl – he described him as a journalist who monitors disinformation on BBC world – must be very busy ….


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The guy does seem to be alive. So this video shows that a) life is very cheap in Afghanistan, and b) the Taliban have at least one helicopter pilot.


  19. Guest Who says:

    Jonathan Amos liked this.

    He likes big numbers. Like Botney’s pension.

    The winch point clearly only for Taliban Climate rapporteurs and BBC Cliff raid reporters.


  20. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – BBC amnesia or dementia – all over again – or something else?

    An unwillingness to complain about their Poster Boy, Beijing Biden?
    Two-faced hypocrisy over former President Trump?

    The BBC were complaining like mad, via Sopey and his underlings and on their web-site, that former President Trump was ‘isolationist’ but at the same time – curiously – a ‘warmonger’. Now President Biden of the USA has stated that his Administration will not try to ‘occupy and re-shape other nations’. When former President Trump stated similar objectives, the BBC cried foul, cried ‘Isolationist’!

    But now?

    Deafening silence.


  21. Sluff says:

    It was a good morning down at the Democratic Party HQ in London aka the BBC.

    On Toady at 0710 they reported on Biden’s speech to the nation yesterday.
    Then those fine investigative journalists interviewed ……a known supporter of Biden!
    And guess what? He agreed with him!

    Trebles all round.


  22. Sluff says:

    It’s another carefully arranged edition of ‘Spot the Link’. Or in the case of the Far Left BBC, not.

    On BBC London yesterday the first item was about the destruction of the green belt in order to build thousands of houses. The rural areas outside Harlow are in for particular treatment.
    And the very next item was about Afghan asylum seekers, 15,000 of whom have just arrived in the UK.

    Yet miraculously the BBC just could not see how these two stories might go together. Amazing, isn’t it?


  23. taffman says:

    Al Beeb
    “Afghanistan: UK and Taliban in talks over further evacuations”

    How many more people can this incompetent government stuff in to these small islands? So much for cutting the UK’s ‘carbon footprint 👣’ ?


  24. Zephir says:

    Of course no one is thinking about any further need for schools, hospitals, GP sugeries and few of these asylum seekers will want to be far from the nearest city Ghetto, or want to live in a village where they would have to integrate

    Church on a Sunday ? nope, village pub ? nope, but we’ll have your passport, child benefit and council house and a protest to get a mosque and seperate eduction to protect our kids from the decadent west


  25. Guest Who says:

    Tash knows true heroism.

    Blondes of media unite!


    • Fedup2 says:

      There must not be a day of this site when a fragrant picture of a fragrant hero is posted ….I guess the kidult way now is to put every moment on the internet ….
      …… has she become an ‘influencer ‘? Yet ( I think I understand what an ‘influencer’ is ) .


  26. StewGreen says:

    8am local radio news seems like propaganda
    item #1 Seems the rung around and SELECTED voices that support more Afghans being brought into Britain

    Item #2 “More than 1,000 people in Lincolnshire have been waiting a year for hospital treatment”
    … They see no irony against their first item.

    Item #3 “A *CLEANER* form of petrol is being introduced from today”
    ..Hmm “cleaner” is a propaganda word there.
    cos something that is claimed to be slightly lower CO2
    is not physically cleaner .. it is not like you enjoy that air.
    In practice the air might even be dirtier cos of ethanols corrosive effect on engines that are not specifically built to resist it.

    Radio Humberside’s first clip was Naz Shah (she’s not from the area)

    Presenter “Church leaders in Bridlington are saying holiday accommodation should be used for Afghan refugees”
    Reverend Rich Townend “don’t look for barriers, look for opportunities”


    • Zephir says:

      Note to Reverend: check your fire extinguishers


    • StewGreen says:

      I guess they know the Reverend from his political tweets against the British government
      “Can’t argue with that…and I’m a remainer!
      The only thing more chaotic than Boris Johnson’s Government is those that are trying to unite against it.”

      His tweets show a very open border policy


  27. JohnC says:

    Front page ‘Must See’ today:
    ‘I used to be racist but my daughter changed me’

    ‘Football fan Neil, 56, says he was a racist and a bigot until his daughter Millie showed him that his behaviour was unacceptable.’

    ‘He said he used to go along with racist chants at football matches but is ashamed of his former behaviour and now describes himself as “anti-racist”.’

    What a heartwarming story. And gets the word ‘racist’ in 4 times in just 3 sentences under a whitey pale-and-stale. While woke daughter looks condascendingly over his shoulder.

    How on Earth does that story get to the BBC ?. Either she or he must have contacted them. Or it’s fake.

    I couldn’t be arsed to watch the video. I trust the Taliban more than I trust the BBC.


    • taffman says:

      IMHO – FAKE !
      If we are so “Racist” why are thousands of third world people of colour trying to get in to Great Britain today by ‘hook or by crook’?


  28. G says:

    Caught a bit of Toady at about 0740. Apparently, the BBC are involved with a re-run of Miss Marple. Hmmmmmm……….I wonder where that one goes for Miss Marple. A touch of the Ann Boleyn I suspect.


  29. Guest Who says:

    Nina has driven from the studio to read out a press release.

    World class.


  30. AsISeeIt says:

    Doctor Dolittle
    Geronimo’s last stand
    Falsified pharma claims flagged – and tucked away in the business news

    It was the recently passed and much lamented David Bowie who proclaimed in 1977 that we could be Heroesjust for one day.

    So it was, apparently, for our NHS. Now Matt the newspaper cartoonist, we hereabouts consider something of a rockstar, quips as he sketches two chaps greeting one another at some social event – one exclaims: “Hello, I don’t think we’ve met before. You must be my GP

    Is it just me or have our medics suddenly gone completely jab-happy? ‘Jabs could replace statins for people with high cholesterol‘ (Telegraph); ‘Cholesterol jabs to save thousands in first world‘ (Times); ‘Miracle jab to stop heart attacks‘ claims the Mirror: ‘NHS to give cholesterol-busting drug to 300,000 at-risk patients‘ – you may not get to see a medic in our brave new NHS, but you’ll surely get the point.

    I’m not saying the concept of heroism has been completely devalued, however: ‘Military chiefs call for Kabul airlift medals‘ (Telegraph) – one wonders whether it might be too late to apply for a Gatwick 2018/19 Bronze Star with Easyjet bar and whether it might be awarded to civilians in extentuating circumstances? I could mention Stansted, but I prefer not to talk about it, if you weren’t there, you just wouldn’t understand, man.

    At first glance among the confusing headlines in the FT, I mistakenly read: ‘Test case. Theranos chief goes on trial‘ as the prosecution of the boss of Thermos. I recall an old joke about a malingering worker being off-work with a broken Thermos flask.

    There’s a media trope about the inevitable improved ethical behaviour of business if only there were more female bosses. If you’ll forgive a digression I’ll alight for a moment on this FT story: ‘Panama flies the flag for female power. The country famous for its canal and infamous for off shore finance has set a 30 per cent female quota for boards‘ – Panama also being infamous for that false flag of convenience of theirs.

    Where were we? Ah yes, Thermos – sorry, Theramos: ‘Elizabeth Holmes, founder of blood-testing start-up Theramos, arrives for jury selection at her trial in San Jose, California. Holmes faces 12 charges that she defrauded investors and patients by making false claims about the efficacy of the group’s tests…

    If Bowie is a bit avant-garde for your tastes then you may still recall the song “Talk to the Animals” as performed by Rex Harrison taken from the 1967 movie Doctor Dolittle (mild pun on our failing NHS intended). The film featured many exotic animals including the legendary Pushmi-Pullyu (pronounced “push-me—pull-you”) with two heads, one at each opposite end of its body. Technically a gazelle/unicorn cross although I seem to recall it being cinematically portrayed as a sort of double-ended llama.

    Which of course brings us to: ‘Four-year battle to save Geronimo ends in tears‘ (Daily Express) – this being the long-running saga of the nation’s favourite alpaca. About the only foreign migrant to the UK ever to have lost a court appeal against his forced removal from the country. The Sun courageously eshewing all pretence at impartiality wades in with: ‘Geroni-No! 26-day stand-off ends in misery. Fury as TB-row alpaca’s farm raided. He’s hauled off and then executed

    The Daily Star likewise documents the single-minded merciless will of our (animal) public health authorities to implement their rules and we have our tabloids to thank for showing us what that looks like on the ground: ‘We doubt you’ll see one if you’ve just been burgled but.. How many coppers does it take to help kill an alpaca?

    Any chief constables brass-necked enough to call for the award of a police lockdown enforcement medal?

    How about a special combined covid alpaca pull-you, push-me, put-him-down commemorative badge?


  31. vonrecht says:

    On Toady R4 this a.m. I discovered that Mishal had been promoted to Controller of All Local Councils (she insisted ALL councils need to take their share of ‘brave’ Afghans, and not only those who are willing) and Home Office Minister for Settlement (she insisted that all these ‘brave’ Afghans be given indefinite Leave to Remain and not treated as ‘asylum seekers’).
    She certainly was in full campaign mode for ‘brave’ Afghans. I have gathered from the BBC over past days that this is the only kind you come across. Apparently there is no such thing as an Afhgan who is NOT ‘brave’.
    I wonder whether BoJo the Clown is aware that his government has been thus further swollen in numbers?
    What a change it makes to listen to GB News, by contrast, where narrative and campaign are not what drives things, but the provision of actual news!


  32. Guest Who says:

    Glitch in the Matrix.

    Klaus will not be happy.

    Time to issue a press release for every bbc reader outer to read out.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Certainly is a public health issue. This old people here has just put another layer (the fourth!) on to keep warm indoors in the UK right now. Where’s my share of that Global Warming then? When will it arrive?


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Get with the programme, that’s weather, not climate. Climate change can only be understood by scientists like Justin Trudeau, Carrie Johnson and Greta Thunberg, who have spent decades studying this enormously complex field. Follow the science!


  33. StewGreen says:

    9am Radio4 : More or Less

    English Covid restrictions were lifted in July. Back then, some predicted that there could be as many as 6,000 hospital admissions a day by the following month. So, what happened?

    The Metropolitan Police says it’s spent £50 million on policing Extinction Rebellion since 2019.
    – can it really be that costly?
    (expert just said it’s an underestimate)

    The economics correspondent at The Economist Duncan Weldon puts government borrowing during the pandemic into context and talk about his new book, 200 Years of Muddling Through. (an advert for a book then)

    Are we running out of lorry drivers?
    And to what extent is Brexit to blame?
    We look at the numbers behind a claim that there is a shortfall of 100,000 lorry drivers in the UK


    • Up2snuff says:

      Stew, did you listen? If so, what do you think? Worth a listen on Sounds a.k.a. Radio iPlayer?


      • StewGreen says:

        @Up2Snuff yes today’s was a credible prog
        MoL used to be great , then the woke people moved in and they had sneering at Trump, Cummings, white people and then some fact-checks were dodgy
        but today’s prog seemed quite solid.


  34. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – handbags at dawn, twenty paces and … bludgeon

    Our Mishal, who has had to suffer being called Michelle by some of her colleagues at the BBC, is a bit riled up for the Prime Interview with Victoria Atkins MP, Minister for Afghan Re-settlement. Yes, a new appointment by the PM last week.

    Mishal denigrates Local Authorities in her questioning and Victoria tells her so. I wish more Government Ministers would be feisty with the BBC. Anyway, the score is Victoria Atkins 1 : 0 Mishal Husain. Will either of the Sport twins care to comment? Or Gary Lineker, who I am sure must be offering to put up an Afghan family right now?


  35. taffman says:

    “What are the holiday rules for travel to green, amber and red list countries?

    On the other hand we get this ……………

    “Covid rules for travelling to the UK will be relaxed for thousands of delegates attending the UN COP26 climate summit in Glasgow in November.”

    “Thousands” !
    How many ‘variants’ are coming in with those “thousands” ?
    Is this government becoming a joke?
    We should have voted for UKIP or The Reform Party in the last general election .


  36. Zephir says:

    That will be a hundred or so delegates and the rest translators for the English speaking delegates, God help us whan it moves to Cardiff.

    But the Glaswegians have the economic debate sorted


  37. Zephir says:


  38. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #4 – is the Bible prophecy coming true right now?

    A big item of news at 6 a.m. was the development of a new drug to combat high cholesterol levels: Inclisiran which will be administered by twice yearly injections instead of daily statins doses which, for some people, have been found to be dangerous. Needless to say this new drug is expensive so “Give us more money!” says the NHS.

    This never-ending jabbathon upon which the whole planet is now engaged reminds me of Chapter 9 of the Book of Revelation. After the first three chapters, the author, John the Apostle a.k.a. John the Divine, a.k.a. St John, a.k.a. author of the fourth Gospel, a.k.a. ‘the disciple whom Jesus loved’, a.k.a. a noisy teenager, a.k.a. the Evangelist, is – as an old man on Patmos – given a vision (revelation) by God of ‘the end times’.


  39. Zephir says:

    Wasnt there another John, teacher and mentor of Jesus ? which begs the question who should be revered ? the Knights Templars thought he should and look what happened to them


    • Up2snuff says:

      Not as far as I know in either Scripture or early church tradition.


      • Zephir says:

        John is mentioned by the Roman Jewish historian Josephus and revered as a major religious figure in Christianity, Islam, the Baháʼí Faith, the Druze Faith, and Mandaeism. He is considered to be a prophet of God by all of these faiths, and is honoured as a saint in many Christian denominations. According to the New Testament, John anticipated a messianic figure greater than himself,and the Gospels portray John as the precursor or forerunner of Jesus, since John announces Jesus’ coming and prepares the people for Jesus’ ministry. Jesus himself identifies John as “Elijah who is to come”, which is a direct reference to the Book of Malachi (Malachi that has been confirmed by the angel who announced John’s birth to his father, Zechariah.According to the Gospel of Luke, John and Jesus were relatives.

        John’s role as a teacher of Jesus might seem a bit of a stretch, given that John is never depicted as teaching Jesus. But the evidence that John played a formative role in Jesus’ life is seen in his inclusion at the beginning of all four gospels, right at the conclusion of Jesus formative years. Jesus’ baptism by John points to the familiarity between the two. In Jesus’ baptism at the hands of John there is simultaneously a submission on Jesus’ part to John as well as a recognition by John of Jesus’ superior role and mission. J. Ramsey Michaels bases the discipleship of Jesus to John on the phrase “he who comes after (ὀπίσω) me.” E. P. Sanders concludes after a close study of John 1-3, that Jesus’ mission “while independent of that of the Baptist’s, is similar in nature and near in locale.” The scholarly consensus is that Jesus spent some amount of time as a disciple of John before beginning his own ministry, but this consensus has not gone unchallenged. A recent PhD thesis at Edinburgh proposes that Jesus in all probability did not spend any time as a disciple of John. Max Alpin’s reasoning is essentially based on the fact that “Jesus had great confidence in his beliefs,” meaning “we simply would not expect him to have chosen to submit himself to John’s leadership.” In my estimation, there seems to be no problem with an individual having great confidence in his beliefs submitting to the teaching of a prominent religious figure. I think the prominent role John the Baptist plays at the beginning of all four gospels points to an essential influence John had on Jesus to frame his early ministry. The gospel of John elaborates by hints a closer connection, showing that Jesus chose his own first disciples from among John’s disciples (John 1:25). Seeing Jesus’ early ministry in light of time spent learning from John provides insights into some key moments in the gospels.


        • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

          When I was in infant school in the 1950’s our teachers had us singing lots of hymns. They never gave us anything written down it was all memory. There were somethings that puzzled me.
          I knew who John the Baptist was and That there were at least two disciples called John. But the Hymn “Silent Night” introduced a John Virgin in the opening lines. I was never sure exactly where he fitted in but I presumed that in time I would find out what role he had in the great story. I never did.
          Silly Boy.


          • Zephir says:

            Lots of Johns in the Middle East at that time apparently, yet when they arrive in their dinghies, not a John amongst them,
            I suspect the Iraqi Bugle, Benghazi Chronicle or Kabul Citizen papers will provide us with top ten childrens names sooner or later when news runs dry, and John will not appear amongst the various machinations of Mohumed


            • Banania says:

              Being called John would rule you out, by our immigration selection process, which seems to be operated by members of a certain “demographic”.


  40. vlad says:

    In case President Biden is reading this blog, may I congratulate him on his brilliant tactical withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    It must rank among other great military withdrawals in history, such as Napoleon’s retreat from Moscow, or Hitler’s retreat after Stalingrad.

    If I’m not mistaken, Napoleon ended up on a cold, barren, damp, windswept rock as far from civilisation as the British could manage, before dying a gruesome death from cancer, or possibly arsenic poisoning.

    As we know, Hitler wound up in a basement – Biden should feel comfortable with that – ranting and raving, a delusional, demented, senile wreck, physically and mentally incapacitated, before shooting himself, after which his half-burnt corpse was tossed into a muddy hole in the ground.

    How sad.


    • Fedup2 says:

      As the Biden autocue session ended last night – and he did his habitual turn away from any questions – I found myself still wondering how the Democrats have got away with all of this ?

      What will it take for someone in the MSM to actually say ‘this is all crap – the election theft – the complete disaster of Afgee – this dementing old man ?’

      I fear it will be someone / group – armed to the teeth with the stuff left in Afgee ( and yes I know Americans bear arms ) ….

      Is it the strongest example of ‘group think ‘ there has been since Hitler / Stalin ? With no one willing to speak out ?


      • vlad says:

        It baffles me too. Call it Emperor’s New Clothes syndrome (the guy’s STARK NAKED ffs), call it TDS, call it Anyone But Trump syndrome, call it extreme wokeness, or decades of Liberal / left indoctrination from school to university, or propaganda by the msm and social media. Or a combination of all the above, added to the fact that admitting the glaringly obvious now, would mean admitting they all got it wrong, and lied…

        Then there’s the power of, say, the woke military brass to destroy the career of anyone srepping out of line like the officer who questioned the withdrawal online and got stripped of his duties…

        The Deep State is no joke, nor is the deep military, nor even the deep Church, especially the Catholic Church in America, which is deeply corrupt and hand in glove with the Dems.

        The Matrix is huge, powerful, ruthless, many-tentacles and omnipresent.


  41. Zephir says:

    Who’s next in charge..

    SAN FRANCISCO — Kamala D. Harris was this city’s top prosecutor, running to become California’s elected attorney general, when a scandal stunned her office and threatened to upend her campaign.

    One of Harris’s top deputies had emailed a colleague that a crime lab technician had become “increasingly UNDEPENDABLE for testimony.” Weeks later, the technician allegedly took home cocaine from the lab, possibly tainting evidence and raising concerns about hundreds of cases.

    Neither Harris nor the prosecutors working for her had informed defense attorneys of the problems — despite rules requiring such disclosure. Harris “failed to disclose information that clearly should have been disclosed,” Superior Court Judge Anne-Christine Massullo wrote in a scathing decision in May 2010.

    At first, Harris fought back. She blamed the police for failing to inform defense lawyers. She estimated that only about 20 cases initially would be affected. And her office accused the judge of bias because Massullo’s husband was a defense lawyer.

    But the turmoil increased. With the local criminal-justice system at risk of devolving into chaos, Harris took the extraordinary step of dismissing about 1,000 drug-related cases, including many in which convictions had been obtained and sentences were being served.

    Now this episode, which undercut Harris’s image as a polished leader and raised questions about her management style, has taken on new relevance as the senator seeks the Democratic nomination for the presidency. Casting herself as a “progressive prosecutor” who was concerned for the rights of defendants, Harris has highlighted her seven-year tenure as San Francisco’s top law enforcement official as evidence of how she balanced her roles.

    Harris’s opponent in the Democratic primary for attorney general, former Facebook general counsel Chris Kelly, said at the time that the ruling showed Harris had “systematically violated defendants’ civil and constitutional rights” because her office hid “damaging information about a police drug lab technician and was indifferent to demands that it account for its failings.” Kelly declined to comment.

    A review of the case, based on court records and interviews with key players, presents a portrait of Harris scrambling to manage a crisis that her staff saw coming but for which she was unprepared. It also shows how Harris, after six years as district attorney, had failed to put in place written guidelines for ensuring that defendants were informed about potentially tainted evidence and testimony that could lead to unfair convictions.

    Harris, in an interview with The Washington Post, stressed that the crime lab was run by the police. But she took responsibility for the failings, including that she had not developed a written policy so that her office would notify defendants about problems with witnesses and evidence, as required by law.

    “No excuses,” Harris said, sitting in a small, windowless office near the U.S. Capitol. “The buck stops with me.”

    Such a pity there was no Trump around to take the blame for this one


  42. Sluff says:

    There are to be some new Miss Marple stories.
    I wonder if the BBC will adapt them for their modern sensibilities?
    I have seen an early draft.

    ‘Wheelchair bound black transgender activist Ms Jim Marple investigates the fatal stabbing of the only white family man left in the idyllic village of Tower Hamlets. The police are baffled. Evidence points to a local resident but could a mysterious visitor and far right extremist be to blame?’


    • JohnC says:

      Unwittingly you have just described a recent episode of Vera !.

      Newcastle is about 25% black and 50% of police are women if you believe what you see.

      They are pumping the new series now : any bets for how long into the first episode we get before we see a black face ?.
      Then maybe someone who lives there can go for a walk on the streets and see how long they walk around until they see something similar.


      • JohnC says:

        Just found it online.
        The answer is 43 seconds after the opening credits finished.
        Three and a half minutes later, Vera is making the first house call and the door opens to a mixed race couple. He has a strong Newcastle accent. His pregnant black wife doesn’t.
        Didn’t watch any more.

        I’m still recovering from watching ‘Time’ over the weekend. Not only was Sean Bean married to a black woman, the prison governor was also a black woman. It was good for the first two episodes then went wokey for the last one.
        That’s the BBC trick these days : they get you watching it first then the social engineering is introduced.


        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          I was recently watching an episode of Midsomer Murders. Half the village seemed to be either black or Chinese. They really seem to enjoy rubbing Brian True-May’s nose in diversity don’t they?


          • JohnC says:

            I used to love that program : simple light hearted entertainment.
            Then the Left started complaining and I can’t watch it any more. It is absolutely unrealistic.

            The last one I saw had a young female managing her own real-ale brewery. How does that happen ?.


  43. Zephir says:

    “Miss” ?? how very dare you, its enough to give her (it) PTSD for the offence caused by casually assuming her (it’s) gender and / or marital status

    (BTW its the white man did it)

    and not a wheelchair, probably a self propelled enabling device or something


  44. Doobster78 says:

    BBC twitter today ..

    They would never use a picture of any “coloured” person in a piece about claiming benefits, that would give off the wrong impression , so here we are ….

    However, of course, 2 tweets down, who is the Professional ? The Doctor ?? Of course, its the BAME !!

    And that, right there, is the BBC in a nutshell.


    • Rich says:


      If you look closely the couple aren’t even both white, the woman looks Chinese/ Asian. They really are beyond a joke and yet all you can do is laugh at how pathetic they are.

      bBbc clowns.


  45. Guest Who says:

    Courtesy of Amol.

    That was the height of my immersion in music of all genres.

    Sadly I do not recall him.


    • Zephir says:

      one of the most influential musicians of his generation, has died, aged 85.
      who ?
      oh, hes black must be good, its the bbc


      • BRISSLES says:

        I’ve managed to get into my 70’s with a good knowledge of music these past few decades, and I’ve never heard of him either.


        • Zephir says:

          Lauded by the syncphantic bbc as “”Shamanistic and reliably stoned, “Scratch” nevertheless had a remarkable work ethic.”

          well done, still, don’t have a clue, “reliably stoned” says the bbc and they want to educate children..

          yep, get drugged up and surprise everyone when you turn up in a recording studio now and again

          Reminds me of the NME when the charming Tony Parsons and Julie Burchill were writing in the seventies, boasting about getting mugged at Notting Hill and other reggae festivals, “its what they do” yeh thats ok then

          pat them on the back as they nick your wallet


    • Sluff says:

      It’s on BBC 6 music.
      Will be keenly listened to by literally handfuls of BBC employees, just so they can say they did.
      And……almost no-one else.


  46. Guest Who says:

    How is it these guys get straight to air?


  47. BRISSLES says:

    I hope we hear MORE stories like this, because its only then when a backlash will start.


  48. Guest Who says:

    Should any feel bbc ‘analysis’ from certain areas errs on the vague, at best, here’s something that seems credible given… events.



  49. StewGreen says:

    Paul Joseph Watson mail
    It’s on about his move to Minds.com as a place where he premieres his videos and keeps control of his income since it is run by conservatives not big-tech-liberals.
    “Paul is now offering annual membership with 2 month(s) of free access!
    Supporters get the ability to engage in the community and access exclusive posts that are only on Locals”

    Recent posts
    A Somali migrant in Sweden who was arrested for violently assaulting numerous women justified his behavior by asserting that “white people are evil and racist.”

    Video out of Newcastle in the UK shows a police dog mauling an anti-lockdown protester who reportedly escaped a police kettling operation during the demonstration.

    Aug 19 : A British man in Singapore was handed a 6 week jail sentence for not wearing a face mask while a judge also ordered the man to undergo a “psychiatric assessment” because he argued against the efficacy of face coverings in court.