575 Responses to Midweek Thread 15 September 2021

  1. tomo says:

    Karey Mullis’ take on Fauci doesn’t age….

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  2. vlad says:

    According to the Biden Broadcasting Corporation, General Milley phoned Beijing to ‘reassure’ them amid concerns over Trump’s mental health. That’s a novel way of describing treason as, according to sources, he also undertook to warn them of any impending attack.

    The beeb is also pleased to publicise a book called ‘Fire and Fury’ about concerns over Trump’s mental health.

    Strangely, the BBC has never had any concerns over the much more obvious signs of Biden’s mental health problems.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-42589633

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  3. MarkyMark says:

    BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE (Trial/Data) THEN THERE IS NO EVIDENCE…. ha ha ha ha

    Call for investigation of menstrual changes after Covid jabs
    Published
    3 hours ago

    “There is no evidence to suggest that these temporary changes will have any impact on a person’s future fertility, or their ability to have children,” Dr Mountfield said.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58573593

    Other vaccines, such as HPV or human papillomavirus, have also been linked to similar menstrual changes – but there has been little research carried out on how and why it happens.

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  4. MarkyMark says:

    News #1

    China has criticised a historic security pact between the US, UK and Australia, describing it as “extremely irresponsible” and “narrow minded”.

    The deal will see the US and UK give Australia the technology to build nuclear-powered submarines for the first time.

    News #2

    China to keep Kabul embassy open and ‘beef up’ relations, say Taliban
    Beijing also reportedly aiming to increase humanitarian assistance, as Taliban prepares to unveil new cabinet
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/03/china-to-keep-kabul-embassy-open-and-beef-up-relations-say-taliban

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    • Up2snuff says:

      MM, fine. Let the Chinese ‘taxpayer’ put his/her hand in his/her pocket to finance Afghanistan. The UK proper taxpayer has plenty enough to pay for other things as it is.

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      • MarkyMark says:

        “Let the Chinese ‘taxpayer’ put his/her hand in his/her pocket” – buy amazon, empower China, feed the Taliban.

        Globalism is great!

        MAKE ALLAH GREAT AGAIN!

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  5. MarkyMark says:

    BBC … The writers and cast behind Horrible Histories wonder what it might be like if Gandhi had his own podcast. It is set shortly before Indian Independence.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09tns1g#xtor=CS8-1000-%5BDiscovery_Cards%5D-%5BMulti_Site%5D-%5BGR01%5D-%5BPS_SOUNDS~N~~P_HorribleHistoriesGandhi%5D

    BBC …
    ‘Racist’ Gandhi statue removed from University of Ghana
    Published13 December 2018

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  6. vlad says:

    GB News may or may not survive, but there’s a glimmer of hope on the horizon in the form of the newly-announced TalkTV, owned by Murdoch and starring Piers Morgan.

    Ain’t it typical eh? You wait half a century for a right-leaning TV channel, and 2 come along at once.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58586493

    https://youtu.be/BYA14WlDO04

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    • MarkyMark says:

      When someone is reported to the Met for a non-crime hate incident, are records held about this on police computer systems, if so which systems, and would this show up in any the following:

      • Basic DBS Check

      • Standard DBS Check

      • Enhanced DBS Check

      • CTC

      • SC

      • DV

      https://www.london.gov.uk/questions/2020/0842

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  7. Thoughtful says:

    Israeli study shows that a natural immunity to Covid is 27 times better than the vaccine and it is longer lasting too.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/study-covid-recovery-gave-israelis-longer-lasting-delta-defense-than-vaccines/

    Will the British government accept that having had Covid is equal to or better than being vaccinated, and allow people working in positions where the vaccine is mandated to work there unvaccinated?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      FA Cup: Anthony Johnson on why delaying the vaccine left him seriously ill in hospital
      By Neil Johnston
      BBC Sport
      Last updated on12 hours ago12 hours ago
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58487683

      “One minute I’m having a beer, the next day I’ve got Covid and a week later I’m in hospital hooked up to every type of machine,” says Johnson, who had put off getting vaccinated.

      “It’s a lesson in how quickly life can turn.”

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  8. Guest Who says:

    Nads.

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  9. MarkyMark says:

    “Ultimately, if I had not recovered my wife would have had to bring up three children on her own. All because I hadn’t found the time to get the jab. How stupid am I?”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58487683

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  10. Guest Who says:

    Sopes just had an orgasm.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Canadian PM Trudeau Shares Call to ‘End White Supremacy’ After Somali Refugee’s Terror Attack {.informationliberation.com 02oct2017}
      ‘Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau responded to news of a Somali refugee’s terrorist attack in Edmonton by sharing a call to “end white supremacy” and insisting “our diversity is our strength.” ‘

      … earlier in the same Universe …

      Trudeau (I’m a feminist) hails “ (Muslim) sisters upstairs” at sex-segregated mosque

      https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2017/10/02/start-the-week-open-thread-144/#comment-870583

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Nigeria rejected British offer to rescue seized Chibok schoolgirls {theguardian.com – mar2017}
      In a mission named Operation Turus, the RAF (UK Airforce) conducted air reconnaissance over northern Nigeria for several months, following the kidnapping of 276 girls from the town of Chibok in April 2014 (by Islamist militant group Boko Haram). “The girls were located in the first few weeks of the RAF mission,” a source involved in Operation Turus told the Observer. “We offered to rescue them, but the Nigerian government declined.”
      – Guardian UK Online Website / 4 March 2017

      #bringbackourgirls – makes you wonder who Michelle Obama was asking to do this? The wife of the most powerful man in the World, with a special relationship with the Country who could have taken action, reduced to holding a piece of card for the World to read a #hashtag that did NOT bring the girls back.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/04/nigeria-declined-uk-offer-to-rescue-chibok-girls

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  11. MarkyMark says:

    Coronavirus Cases:
    95,493
    Deaths:
    4,636
    Recovered:
    89,980

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

    Coronavirus Cases:
    7,339,009
    Deaths:
    134,805
    Recovered:
    5,907,029

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  12. taffman says:

    “Dating site fraud: Rhyl barber jailed for £90,000 con”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58588703
    Nothing like diversity?

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  13. taffman says:

    Have I missed something ?
    Has the “Brexit” topics heading disappeared from the top bar of the BBC’s News Web Page?

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  14. Rich says:

    Not the bBbc but might as well be.

    There’s a remake of “The Darling Buds of May” coming soon on ITV and predictably their idea of what British bucolic bliss in the ’50s looked like is not really what those who were there will remember.

    Pop Larkin is being played by Bradley Walsh. No David Jason, but fair enough. Peter Davidson appears as the Vicar. A safe pair of hands there. No surprises yet.

    The bumbling Brigadier? Well he’s an Indian gentleman now, and one of the Larkins’ neighbours, Mrs Chand, is a lady of South East Asian origin. Mariettes’ dopey love interest Charley Charlton? Yep, he’s black. In Kent in the 1950s.? Ffs.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9999179/Bridgertons-Sabrina-Bartlett-says-sex-scenes-extremely-liberating.html

    They couldn’t leave it alone could they? I’m not interested anyway but who is this supposed to appeal to?

    “Perfick” my arse.

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    • Scroblene says:

      Bet they get into a bit of bother when Angela Snow appears!

      The gorgeous Kika Mirylees isn’t actually the epitome of Albeeb’s twisted view on British Citizenship…

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  15. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    There’s an extremely annoying gobby chubby wimmin on GB News tonight (on Dan Wooton’s panel) who is talking over the others all the time so that you can’t hear what they are saying, typical lefty.
    She thought you only need a tv licence if you watch bbc but you didn’t need one to watch all the other channels such as ITV

    The one in the middle is supposed to be a Tory but comes over as very lefty. Sticking up for the bbbc.

    Still, Megyn Kelly on soon and she’s worth watching.

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    • StewGreen says:

      @RebeccaCNReid has just admitted live on @danwootton
      that she has broken the licence law multiple times when watching live terrestrial programmes
      and BBC recordings without a licence!
      Bang the left wing bigot up immediately!

      @RebeccaCNReid replied
      “I have now got one! Mea maxima culpa”

      #OneRuleForthem

      Rebecca Rei bio : Author of Truth Hurts, The Power of Rude,
      Perfect Liars & The Will (May 2022).

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    • StewGreen says:

      Reid’s early comment
      “of course the BBC is not biased, it gets complaints from the right AND the left
      so that shows it’s impartial”

      5 minutes later “I LOVE Jess Brammar”

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    • JohnC says:

      It’s always the far-Left member who is the most obnoxious intolerant biggot who wants to disagree with everything any of the others say and keeps trying to shout over them.
      The amusement at marvelling at what a complete tw@t Benjamin Butterworth is soon wore off and now I can’t bear to watch it if he’s on.

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    • scribblingscribe says:

      Its what the Left call, ‘having a conversation’.

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  16. MarkyMark says:

    How many are there …

    19:43: Graham Stuart out as PuSS at DIT
    19.43: James Duddridge out as PuSS at FCDO
    19.43: Matt Warman out as PuSS at DCMS
    19.04: Conor Burns appointed minister of state at the Northern Ireland Office
    19.04: Chloe Smith appointed minister of state at DWP
    19.04: Alex Chalk appointed Solicitor General
    18.15: Amanda Solloway appointed as a whip
    18.15: Helen Whately appointed exchequer secretary to the Treasury
    18.15: Maggie Throup appointed PuSS at DHSC
    18.15: Neil O’Brien appointed PuSS at MHCLG
    18.15: Lee Rowley appointed PuSS at BEIS and whip
    18.15: Gillian Keegan appointed minister of state at the DHSC
    18.15: Victoria Atkins appointed minister of state at MoJ, and remains minister for the Afghan resettlement scheme
    18.15: Lucy Frazer appointed financial secretary to the Treasury
    18.01: Robin Walker appointed schools minister
    17.58: Justin Tomlinson out as minister of state at DWP
    17.58: Luke Hall out as minister of state at MHCLG
    17.58: Caroline Dinenage out as minister of state at DCMS
    17.58: Jesse Norman out as financial secretary to the Treasury
    10.40: John Whittingdale out as media minister at DCMS
    09.00: Michael Ellis gets Paymaster General at the Cabinet Office
    09.00: Penny Mordaunt promoted to Minister of State at trade
    05.24: Penny Mordaunt indicates she’s out as paymaster general in the Cabinet Office

    order-order

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  17. MarkyMark says:

    “The father of a seven-year-old girl whose hair was cut by a teacher without parental permission is suing the school district and two staff members for $1m.”

    12 year old kids can decide on JAB!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58591006

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  18. StewGreen says:

    Me Police Officer led XR protesters to stand in front of cars
    .. reports the Telegraph

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    • StewGreen says:

      There’s a video
      .. oops my typo Met Police Officer led

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/09/16/priti-patel-orders-police-get-tough-climate-activists-m25-protests/

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      • StewGreen says:

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        • BigBrotherCorporation says:

          Stew, the only explanation I can imagine, is that the plod are terrified of being sued by these well-heelled luvvies and their barrister mates, so are going to ridiculous extremes to be seen being ‘nice’ to them, all smiley, cuddly ‘good cop’ as it were.

          Pathetic really, and we all know if the demonstrators were anyone other than BLM supporters, or middle class XR clowns, ‘bad cop’ would be unleashed with far less provocation.

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        • MarkyMark says:

          Westminster attack: Police chief defends deputy who stayed in car as officer was killed
          Sir Craig Mackey faced criticism for staying in his vehicle while attacker Khalid Masood stabbed PC Keith Palmer to death.

          By Lucia Binding, news reporter

          Saturday 13 October 2018 06:06, UK

          https://news.sky.com/story/westminster-attack-police-chief-defends-deputy-who-stayed-in-car-as-officer-was-killed-11524514

          The head of the Metropolitan Police has said it is “simply wrong” to criticise her deputy for remaining in his car during the Westminster terror attack.

          Cressida Dick said that accusing Sir Craig Mackey of cowardice was “confused, unpleasant, personalised and ignorant” and was “simply not supported by the evidence”.

          Her comments came after an inquest concluded that Westminster attacker Khalid Masood was lawfully killed.

          The Muslim convert mowed down pedestrians on Westminster Bridge in a hired SUV, killing four people and seriously injuring 29 others, before stabbing PC Keith Palmer to death.

          Jurors at the Old Bailey heard that Sir Craig, one of the country’s most senior police officers, stayed in his official car as Masood murdered PC Palmer during the attack in March last year.

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          • BigBrotherCorporation says:

            As in so much else, Head Dick is completely wrong (in fact, I can’t think of many instances where she’s been right about anything?), I would certainly call her deputy a coward for cowering in his car, whilst one of HIS officers was brutally stabbed to death nearby. If that’s not the definition of a coward, what is?!

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  19. JimS says:

    Sir Clive Sinclair dies and the BBC writes:

    Eventually the company was taken over by Labour’s National Enterprise Board and split up.

    A bit of a Freudian slip there BBC! A Labour government might have set up the National Enterprise Board but I’m pretty certain it was done using public funds, following a vote in parliament, rather than using party subscriptions.

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  20. StewGreen says:

    BBCnews “influential climate adviser says”

    Who does that make you think of ?

    adviser ? Are you thinking of of a long term politician
    who still sits in the House of Lords

    … Are you thinking of someone who for two decades businesses which have a vested interest in climate policies

    The guy is Lord Deben AKA John Selwyn Gummer

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  21. Tabs says:

    BBC1 Question Time audience looks like a cross between XR meetup and a student union. I’ve watched 5 minutes of it so far and it appears it is just bashing GB News.

    Boooooooring.

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  22. JohnC says:

    Afghanistan’s singers flee Taliban violence
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58583217

    In case you thought the only people worth mentioning who escaped Afghanistan were the girls school football team, think again.

    ‘The BBC spoke with six singers who crossed the border to Pakistan illegally and are now living in hiding. ‘

    Glad they are not wasting our funding interviewing utterly irrelevant people.

    708 words for that article.

    The Leicester stabbing of Abdirahim Mohamed by Muhamad Firoz Khan, Daniel Pollard and Khatib Gul got 140.

    Wonder how many males got murdered last week in Afghanistan. We won’t find out because the headlines are full of stories like this and groups of 6 women protesting for the BBC cameras before dispersing quickly before the Taliban arrive.

    The BBC tax-funded bubble is a different world to the one normal people live in. How things will change when they have to get their money through merit and nobody wants what they are selling.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      BBC – unable to find a pedophile in their own ranks.

      Jimmy Savile (1926–2011) was an English media personality who, during his lifetime, was well known in the United Kingdom for his eccentricities and was generally respected for his charitable work. He was knighted in 1990. In late 2012, almost a year after his death, reports surfaced that Savile had sexually abused hundreds of individuals throughout his life, with alleged male and female victims, ranging from prepubescent to adult.

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  23. taffman says:

    “Andrew Neil: I was minority of one at GB News”

    Perhaps the headline should be ………..Andrew throws his toys out of the pram ?

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  24. taffman says:

    “Aukus: US and UK face global backlash over Australia defence deal”
    “ But the move angered France, which said it had been “stabbed in the back”, while China accused the three powers of having a “Cold War mentality”.

    France needs to look back at the way they treated Great Britain after we took the democratic vote to leave the EU. It also should reflect at the dumping of illegals on our beaches.
    Stabbing in the back is something our French neighbours are experts in , eh ?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      China insists the pineapples were blocked because its customs authorities had repeatedly detected pests on fruit coming from Taiwan.

      Ma Xiaoguang, spokesman for the Taiwan Affairs Office of the State Council, described it as a normal biosafety precaution measure.

      However, over the past 12 months China has been accused of using ambiguous and opaque trade policies to punish its rivals.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56353963

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  25. Jeff says:

    FFS, do we still have a functioning police force in this country?

    If they’re not kneeling to the thugs of BLM they’re dancing with the pretentious prats of XR and painting their vehicles like ice cream vans. I don’t know why they don’t go the full hog and replace their squealing sirens with “I’m Popeye the sailor man.”

    These pathetic pillocks are actually escorting the climate warriors to the middle of the motorway and stopping irate motorists from removing them. What’s next, bringing them a cup of tea? Tucking them up at night?

    The BBC, Guardian and the increasingly ludicrous Channel 4 are forever carping on about the effects of Brexit on supermarket shortages.

    What about these bleedin’ crusties? Lorries gridlocked on the M25 can’t help matters. But of course, Swampy and co are saving the planet…

    Perhaps it’s my age, but…
    Increasingly I feel like I’m living in a bloody loony bin.

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    • taffman says:

      Jeff
      Do not despair Pritt-stick is still in charge.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The fat girl – rank unknown – who is filmed asking those criminals what she can do to help them is either

      1 just a woke
      2 a former McDonald’s ‘team member’
      3 a sympathiser to the cause –
      4 impersonating a plod

      On the Twitter – the ex plod spokesman – Norman Brennan – couldn’t defend it .

      Now the minister for stron statements has demanded plod adopt the same attitude as the Border Force has – so if you are using the M25 – prepare for 4 hours of siting in your car going nowhere …
      …plod has gone well and truly woke – I guess it’s the same up the chain of ‘plod senior officers ( managers ) ‘officers ‘ sounds so colonial …

      Or maybe they are just moaning about no NHS level pay rise …

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      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        Can we find a way of getting these insulation people to sit in the middle of the Channel to stop the invasion.
        I’m sure the police will escort them there safely.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Future policing ….
      Over-100-men-slipped-into-their-high-heels-put-their-best-foot-forward-and-set-off-to-Walk-a-mile.jpg

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    • Old Goat says:

      You ARE living in a loony bin. Why do you think I escaped all those years ago?

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      • Deborah says:

        OG, is France any better? I know there are countless demos I might agree with, but are they getting anywhere? And I think there have been more Islamic terrorist attacks in France, or at least ones doing a lot of harm. And taxation, I have no idea whether it is better or worse than the U.K. but I remember a lot of wealthy French people coming to the U.K. to avoid socialist measures being implemented. I don’t know if those people have returned.

        I don’t think I could go to NZ with the Aderne woman, Australia is full of covid and draconian measures to protect their citizens, Canada has Trudeau and the US has Biden and defunding the police. I am running out of choices.

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      • Mrs Kitty says:

        @ OG 9.32 am Agree OG, it’s one of the many reasons we left as well. Anytime it came up in conversation we were shot down as racist, bigot and my favourite “insult “ uncompassionate ( not even a word) when you feel like you’re being mown down by all the do- gooders you reach a point and say “to hell with it you’re on your own”.

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    • Guest Who says:

      The entire political media establishment is either utterly nuts, or in on it.

      Next… diversity blocks on the M4 fast lane. Chelsea tractors exempted heading West Friday Arvo.

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  26. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – much excitement on TOADY, a chance to visit Turkey

    The TOADY Presenters do like their foreign travel and foreign holidays, don’t they? All agog for Istanbul and beyond. Not too worried about what germs they bring back?

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  27. AsISeeIt says:

    We consider international relations for a moment this morning as that extarordinary resource of junk statistics which is the FT’s Datawatch provides a graph of: ‘% who say Merkel’s policies have been positive for their country

    At first glance one assumes this must be an opinion poll of Germans gauging their Chancellor’s approval rating as she finally approaches the close of her long 16-year incumbency.

    But silly me. I’m not thinking globally enough for the FT.

    This is in reality that peculiar thing a measure of a national leader’s approval in other foreign nations. Considering Germany sits dominant astride the EU and has a significant hand in Brussel’s policy there may have been some justification for a poll of citizens of other EU continental states.

    However, the FT, remember, is super globalist and Merkel’s rating is polled as far afield as China where, apparently, she was a bit hit. More than 60% of the Chinese, we’re told, agree with the statement that the policies of the present female Chancellor of Germany have been good for THEIR country.

    Something under 20% disagree. Far be it from me to question the level of international awareness in that bat soup quaffing mass interior population of billions within the PRC – and I’m sure we possess somewhat different educational systems – but I seriously doubt 80% of Britons would have a handle on who leads Germany and were in a position to adequately rate her policies. And we’re near neighbours.

    And I’m not so naive as to really imagine some pollster in hi-viz tabard, clutching a clip board, had permission to visit every Chinese village, paddy field and wet market with their damned fool questions.

    What we really have here is what I’d like to dub the Mikhail Gorbachev effect – the odd globalist notion that national leaders are best judged on their popularity abroad. Barack Obama was another one hugely popular outside of his native (ahem…) country of the US but rated somewhat “Meh” for his achievements at home. He won the Nobel prize for nothing more than being his own lovable self. You’ll note a leader’s international approval winning out over his internal popularity often tends to pressage a decline in the international standing of his home nation.

    I know you’re curious to know which other countries love their Merkel? Seems there’s a bit of an old axis and friends flavour to the list: ‘Spain, Italy, France (Vichy?), Turkey (Gastarbeiter), Russia (Nord Stream gas pipeline).

    Evidently the UK don’t join wholeheartedly in the great global Merkel love in. It is a near thing between approvers and disapprovers but in results much in line with the Brexit referendum we marginally disliked our German Chancellor.

    In further news likewise on the international stage: ‘Tell us if deal will drag Britain to war, PM urged‘ – so asks the formerly patriotic Times relaying the China-friendly question asked by that much respected international stateswoman and deal maker Theresa May – who always made it her business to stand up for our international interests – sort of. ‘Johnson challenged over defence pact with US and Australia

    The Guardian is more forthright in its appeasement – despite Biden: ‘UK and US face backlash amid fears pact could provoke China‘ – I suppose if we want to avoid war at all costs we should ally instead with China and Russia? And the Arabs and Iranians. But what do we do when that lot all fall out with one another?

    There’s a story today that tends to encapsulate Britain’s decline. Our precurser and answer to Elon Musk has passed on: ‘End of the road at 81 for Sir Clive, Britain’s lovable C5 boffin‘ (Daily Mail)

    Gene-edited food coming to UK plates‘ – alarms the ‘i’. Are we really scared? Considering we’ve just ok’ed mass injections for 12-year-olds with a drug that circumvented all the normal long term safety testing regimes.

    For a virus our scientists still know so little about they can’t honestly tell us whether it came from bats, pangolins or a Chinese laboratory.

    If our elite are so scared of China then do they know something we don’t?

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  28. Guest Who says:

    The perils of stardom.

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    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      I’m a curry muncher, I love curry… too much, I’ve had to reduce my intake to a ‘treat’ a few times a year, for the sake of my wallet, and my waistline.

      EVERYONE has slang they use for other people, some of it is ‘racist’, some is harmless, some of it quite cruel, and some well deserved.

      ‘Curry Muncher’ seems rather less offensive and cruel than most I’ve heard… ‘Gammon’ for example, which is specifically a description of skin colour, baldness, fatness, and a deliberate association with an animal which is usually perceived negatively.

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  29. taffman says:

    Long COVID or merely Hypochondria ?

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  30. Doublethinker says:

    So Brillo claims that GBN is too right wing for his taste and so he left. What exactly did he want , something which didn’t challenge the lunacy of net zero, or challenge the obvious madness of mass immigration, something that didn’t highlight the election stealing in the USA. I suspect that the answer is yes , that is exactly what he wanted. Basically something a bit to the right of the BBC , ie centre left as the BBC is far left nowadays, but which preserved the liberal establishment orthodoxy on the critical issues.
    So the channel is better off without him. It shows how bad the BBC is when only a year or two ago Brillo was the furthest right of their coterie of extreme leftist presenters and we often praised him on this site. My only fear is that him leaving and making these remarks on Question Time, which for the record I didn’t watch, will make it easier for the liberal establishment via their control of Ofcom to force the channel leftward or face closure.
    Will the newly proposed Murdoch channel do any better? Not with Ofcom ruling the roost. Come on Nadine start by replacing the board of Ofcom and let GBN and Murdoch be themselves.
    One bit of good news is that the readers comments in the Telegraph have contained numerous posts urging people to refuse to pay the License Fee. I have not seen so many people declaring their refusal to continue to fund the BBC before. Hope springs eternal.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Double – yes – hope does spring eternal – toady – unusually – ‘hosted ‘ a discussion between a guardian droid and the Tim Montgomery ‘righty’ about GBNews and the coming Murdock TV .
      Swamp dwellers talking to each other doesn’t air the kind of ‘diversity of thought ‘ so often desired here . In fact it rather re inforces the problem …

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    • Guest Who says:

      Yet ok as the corridors rolled with empty champagne bottles stepped over by Mason and O’Brien?

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  31. Fedup2 says:

    Toady
    Robinson on safe ground – ‘violence against wimmin ‘ – interviewing a couple of wimmin – one a chief plod saying about how plod must do more – perhaps take the same stance as when greenies block the m 25 .

    The sort of stranger violence – such as the plod who abducted a woman in the street and killed her recently – with the ‘made your bed now lie in it – domestic violence ‘ .

    As a chap – without any experience of domestic violence – I would suggest there is a big difference between these .

    It is interesting – too – that these lefties treat these ‘gender issues ‘ as though all men and wimmin are from the same ;culture’ in Britain – when – sadly – this is not the case any more.

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  32. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – much excitement on TOADY, police are not taking action

    Zoe Billingham, police woman, has done a report. Her report finds that police are not taking seriously the domestic abuse of women and violence against women. The response of the police? “Give us more money and we’ll start doing our jobs properly.”

    Fairly brainless, Big Interview, with Nick Robinson who conflates, maybe deliberately, street safety with violence at home and in private. Also fairly brainless of the TOADY Editors and News scriptwriters who are completely sold on the Sarah Everard murder while ignoring the facts of that individual case.

    Especially the key fact: that crime was committed by a Police Officer.

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  33. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Radio 1 with the new Lady Tennis player – no mention that she is $2.5 million and in the 1% rich party and should give it all to the NHS because the NHS is a charity (not a service) … clap harder.

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  34. MarkyMark says:

    Even Neil is a Minority now!
    HA HA HA!

    Andrew Neil: I was minority of one at GB News
    Published9 hours ago
    Share
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58591909

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  35. Guest Who says:

    BBC ‘News’ garnered by a child in the W1A cubicle gardens surfing and grabbing any tripe that is out there…

    ***

    “She speaks just like a ‘Dong Bei (north-east Chinese) girl’,” a social media user said in response to a video of the US Open winner speaking Mandarin.

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  36. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Promote terrorists?

    “How TikTokers took down a Texas anti-abortion site

    How TikTokers took down a Texas anti-abortion site
    Close
    When the strictest abortion law in the US went into effect in Texas, teenagers took matters into their own hands. They took to social media to ask people to clog an anti-abortion website with fake tips about offenders.

    They managed to bring the site down temporarily, but now the anti-abortion webpage, run by Texas Right to Life, is facing other challenges.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-58577039

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  37. Guest Who says:

    Typical bbc office workers?

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  38. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – much excitement on TOADY and maybe elsewhere at the BBC, Andrew Neil infers GB News is right wing and Fox News is Far Right Wing.

    Apparently, ex-Beeboid Andrew Neil was on BBC TV’s Question Time last evening. The main points according to the 6 a.m. News on TOADY: Andrew Neil has said Fox News is Far Right, believes conspiracy theories and spreads ‘Fake News’. The new Murdoch TV Channel is Far Right. GB News is, well, viewers can make up their own minds whether it is Far Right or not.

    First thought in Snuffy’s head: Neil’s been bought. Second thought in Snuffy’s head: who by? We know he loves money. We know he has a very expensive lifestyle with three homes and alimony to support. Is Neil going to be back on the BBC? Or on CNN? Or will one of the NewYork & Washington papers start a TV Channel?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Was Neil around when Jimmy Saville hid in plain sight?

      BBC Radio 5 Live Breakfast
      BBC Radio 5 Live, Wednesday 3 January 2018

      During a phone-in on the programme a contributor, Danielle Tiplady was introduced as a staff nurse. We should have established and made clear on air that she was a political activist.

      08/01/2018
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications/corrections_2018/

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      You can see it ‘the piers and Andrew show ‘ – Murdock Tv at its best – they’ll be interviewing ‘Emma’ – that AQ terrorist girl – Prince Andrew – that Man U footy bloke ( aged 35 ) …-and each other ….

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    • Beltane says:

      The speed with which Andrew Neil has been re-embraced by the BBC, using QT as a platform to undermine GBN, suggests his enthusiasm was perhaps suspect from the start, or even earlier. There are similarities with the strange decision to gift the responsibility for Brexit to Teresa May and Phillip Hammond – almost as though designed to fail – but that must credit the establishment with a quite staggering degree of duplicity. Surely not?
      Luckily the more than faintly ludicrous Nels Abbey – described as a banker, though that may have been a spelling mistake – proved to be an ace party-pooper, stealing Andrew’s limelight enough to make that mini-rug bristle in fury.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Have to agree Snuffy, there’s a nasty whiff around it. I must admit I thought it odd that after only 2 weeks Neil buggers off, and guessed he had a better offer elsewhere. He had plenty of time before the launch to offload himself, so perhaps he was waiting for any offer to be confirmed. And hasn’t Piers Morgan been boasting lately that he is in the middle of a ‘project’ that will be global ???

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  39. Fedup2 says:

    BBC comedy – now in the news

    Reports that a foreign country is being accused of corruption and fraud in a forthcoming democratic election – postal vote Naughties and candidate politicians being banned from social media …

    Can you guess the country

    A America
    B Russia
    C bongo bongo land
    D none the the above

    – for candidates requiring an uplift on exam results the answer is B .
    A and C have free and fair elections ….in fact they are the same country …

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  40. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #4 – much excitement on TOADY, the French are upset poor dears

    No mention of the French welshing on an agreement to send Covid vaccines to Australia. No mention of the French welshing on agreement to stop the flow of illegal migrants across the Channel to the UK. No. None of that.

    The Australians are being beastly to the French by cancelling an order for nuclear-powered submarines. The UK is being beastly to the French by agreeing to build nuclear-powered submarines for the Australians. So says the BBC while sob-sob-sobbing into their hankies on behalf of the French.

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    • Guest Who says:

      They sending Jon Don back in his canoe?

      Or the Egyptian Strine expert still there posting like fury?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Guest, I thought Jon Don had blotted his BBC copy book and was doing penance on BBC Radio Maidenhead or some such. Isn’t there a Beeboid Indian lass reporting from Oz also?

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  41. Guest Who says:

    Secret meetings now in the back passage to Frankie Howerd as to who gets the broadcast rights… Newsbeat or straight to Ceebeebies.

    Nish is interested, his agent could say. Reportedly.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      She has nothing left to talk about except her sexuality – healthy living – being a good actor? BBC money?

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    • Beltane says:

      Much of her charm was lost to me when she asked, while being interviewed, to be given a moment to remove her girlfriend’s pubes from between her teeth….

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Beltane -yellow card -bad taste …ugh … ( not really a yellow card – maybe just ‘taking one for the team )

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    • Zelazek says:

      The only role she is suitable for is a witch in Macbeth. On second thoughts, this weird sister might be too disgusting a hag even for that. No wonder the Monty Python and Goodies lads hated her at uni.

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  42. JimS says:

    Ah, remember the days of St. Obama! A minor pop celebrity, unknown to most, might die yet the BBC website would lead with condolences from Obama, even though the celebrity wasn’t even American!

    No scrutiny of his actual policies though.

    Along comes Trump, every nervous twitch picked up on, video material edited to cut out context and big chunks of time, every made-up allegation treated as true, etc.

    Now we have Biden whose one great achievement will be to beat Obama’s record as worst president in living memory, barely able to put two thoughts together. We have the great Dr Fauci who boasted to Australian TV that he was behind Covid. Every day brings more evidence of all the offices of state having worked against Trump, now we have suggestions that Milley was at the very least insubordinate but more likely part of a real insurrection along with Pelosi.

    All this should be like ‘Watergate’ on steroids, fertile ground for real journalists, but the BBC has shut up shop ‘for the duration’. (Should however some black guy get given a bannana soda by mistake in a one horse town in mid-America no doubt Sopel will mention it while plugging his latest book).

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  43. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Question time – where questions go to die .. remember when it had balls?!

    “…and it shouldn’t have been our high commissioner (UKs) called in by the Pakistani Government to be lectured, we should have pulled in the envoy of Pakistan here and said ‘Stop that right now (protesting by blowing things up), or do without the aid we give you (Pakistan) …'”
    – Christopher Hitchens had a point in 2007

    https://youtu.be/Hmv2sL2qkIM?t=3m22s

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  44. G.W.F. says:

    So what is wrong with Fox News?
    Ex BBC man, ex GB News man Andrew Neil accuses Fox News of fake news, etc. Something that must offend the high standards he shared with the BBC.

    I never shared the view that Neil was in any sense better than other BBC presenters, and his performance on QT, indicated that he is back where he belongs.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58591909

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Ofcom has imposed a £20,000 fine on Islam Channel Limited in relation to its service the Islam Channel for failing to comply with our broadcasting rules.

      On 11 November 2018, 23:00, the Licensee broadcast an episode of The Rightly Guided Khalifas, a religious education series.

      In our Decision published on 7 October 2019 in issue 388 of the Broadcast and On Demand Bulletin (PDF, 1.3 MB), Ofcom found that the programme contained antisemitic hate speech in breach of Rules 2.3, 3.2 and 3.3 of the Broadcasting Code.

      Ofcom has imposed a sanction on the Licensee of a financial penalty of £20,000, a direction to broadcast a statement of Ofcom’s findings on a date and in a form to be determined by Ofcom and a direction not to repeat the programme.

      https://www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/latest/bulletins/content-sanctions-adjudications/decision-islam-channel-limited

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    • Rich says:

      I think that Andrew Neil considers himself far too cultured to engage in the media culture war needed. He seems to have taken the easy way out for someone who is, depending on your view, either a deceived defender of free-thought or a slightly sleazy egotist, fond of money and himself.

      I’ve thought of him as being confusingly self-contradicting in his views for a while now and reckon I’d find having a pint with Neil Oliver a lot easier and more enjoyable.

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      He went on QT to decry Fox News and suck up to all the lefty shite.

      Now they still hate him and he’s certainly made me disregard him.

      Tried to please everyone and ends up pleasing no-one.

      Follow the money. As usual.

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  45. MarkyMark says:

    Jeremy Corbyn … speaks at Al Quds rally (does not denounce Ayatollah) and on Iranian PressTV and does not denounce ‘Death to Isreal’ emoji released by Iranian government.

    Diane Abbott … suggests Mao did more good than harm.

    David Lammy … called the smoke from the Vatican racist.

    If you believe in this team then it tells me you support Iran, China and are racist.

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  46. JimS says:

    Nominally about California but applies to the USA in general, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and of course the UK.

    Britain gifted the world the best form of government but that government only exists as long as the people want to keep it.

    Bring in other peoples from other cultures in quantity and they have no respect or understanding of the country that they now ‘belong’ to.

    No more USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or UK, no more ‘the West’.

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    • G says:

      Jim,

      I see the US as the many headed ‘Hydra’. All the heads are devoted to independently biting chunks out of one another. Even if Trump became US President again in 2024 and hit the ground running, he would not be able to turn the ship round much less stop it. It’s too big now.
      I don’t think it will end well.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “To cite the other person you just said that would *trigger you Sam Harris*, Mark Steyn said this the other day, *this is the conversation we will be having when the Mullahs nuke us*.Everyone will be discussing if someone is transgender despite the fact they’ve had no operation (ref Jack Monroe in UK)” – Douglas Murray when he’s angry, but he still makes sense.

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  47. G says:

    You can’t keep hearing the same mantra from all the World’s controlling medical elite condemning Ivermectin to deal with the Chinese Virus without concluding that there is a conspiracy going on. Is it a continuing effort to surreptitiously ‘thin out’ the World’s population? I don’t know but something’s going on and the concern for the health of most of the unvaxed Worlds population is of no concern to them right now. First India, their medical profession ignored their Government’s instructions (via the WHO) to desist prescribing Ivermectin. Now Australia:

    You cannot miss John Campbell’s contempt for the Aussie Health Authority.

    Very surprised that YT has not taken the vid down, they seem to do that anywhere IVM is the focus.

    Happy days – you cannot believe much that comes from the mouths of the elite anymore. Shocking. We pay these people and provide all the money for their frivolous decision making.

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  48. StewGreen says:

    They shout “Global Warming, Global Warming ..is bring us MORE natural disasters”

    yet here’s some evidence against that from the Economist article this July.

    E_ag5lRVgAQaB31?format=png&name=small

    Thread : https://www.twitter.com/RogerPielkeJr/status/1438509061390024706

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  49. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    GB News has had many technical problems.
    Many of them sound and synchronisation problems which are gradually being sorted out.

    Those against GBN criticise it for these “amateur” failings yet they seem to miss the point that many many people would rather watch this fledgling channel, warts and all, than the ‘fault free’ rest of the msm.

    In short, people prefer a channel telling the truth to all the high money extreme far left biased msm channels and will watch the ‘cheaper’ productions of GBN.

    Can’t they see it’s a sort of compliment to the GBN content as opposed to an easy put down because of start up technical problems.

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  50. StewGreen says:

    Dennis Reed of Silver Voices meeting with BBC Boss Tim Davie

    In a world where almost every NGO has been highjacked by Marxists
    Silver Voices is supposed to represent the interests of pensioners
    They have a campaign “to force the BBC and Government to find ways to reinstate the free TV licence for the over 75s. ”

    Yet bashing Tories seems a major interest
    YouTube tells me that Silver Voices have put out a press release
    about this meeting
    It’s not on their website/Twitter/Facebook
    SV say the meeting was 6 weeks ago

    #1 Nothing happened
    #2 Tim Davie didn’t turn up
    #3 “Customer Care” AKA sales teams … are now visiting over 75s homes, to get them to get their payment on the spot
    #4 BBC sent Clare Sumna & Pipa Doubtfire instead
    (they are BBC Director of Policy .. and Head of Revenue Management )
    #4 BBC rejected out of hand, the SV idea that they should approach the government to reach a solution.

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    • StewGreen says:

      #5 Silver Voices seem more interested in passing on blame to the government
      as you can see from this screenshot taken from Jon Carne’s video .. https://youtu.be/AU3saN_txk8

      E_fGvBIXEAIUT6Q?format=jpg&name=small

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      • Guest Who says:

        Almost every ‘representative’ community outlet, of those I have heard of and those never, charity or ngo, seems to get money from the hapless taxpayer via idiot government to work against everyone’s interests bar a narrow bunch of activist howler monkeys.

        If the bbc is involved it is either complicit or exempted or quietly chatting on new undermining measures to get Corbyn in.

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