Weekend Thread 2 October 2021

The price of gas is going up. The powers that be estimate that an average household on a flexible tarif will pay roughly £150 more a year – more or less the cost of the TV Licence . With a bit of luck people Will chose to pay gas bills rather than the disgusting TV licence .

Bookmark the permalink.

302 Responses to Weekend Thread 2 October 2021

  1. Jeff says:

    We’re in for a treat tonight on BBC1…

    At 9pm they’re bringing us Ridley Road, a “fact based” drama set in the 1960s, when a fascist (neo Nazi) group was on the rise.
    Yeh, you see, it’s the term “fact based” that allows them an awful lot of leeway.

    I lived through the 1960s and this flirtation with Nazism seems to have escaped me. I’m sure I’d have noticed…

    Anyhow, we’re told that these people are determined to rid the country of foreigners and restore “good old British values”. You know, I can almost feel the sneering from here.

    Just to add a little context…this series has been adapted for TV by Sarah Solemani, a Labour supporting actress and writer, who played a big part in Yvette Cooper’s leadership campaign in 2016. The BBC, as impeccably impartial as ever…

    But…If you can’t stomach an entire month of Sundays watching this historically suspect, self flagellating dross on BBC1, then there’s always that talented comedian, Romesh Ranganathan, on BBC2.

    Just for balance…

       51 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Jeff – what happened to that submarine thing where someone thought the idea of putting a girl plod with mental issues on a submarine to solve something?( I watched a bit of this for about 15 minutes then lost it when the coloured token turned out to be the captain ) ….

      Did the dud series sink without trace ?

      Won’t be looking at the thing you describe at all …

         18 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        Naziism in the sixties?

        What utter bo11ocks! Most adults who fought in WW2 were still alive and kicking, and would never have let such a hateful issue get anywhere near their families, and the most exposure was by idiots like P.Harry dressing up as one ‘for fun’.

        The awful BBC just don’t get it do they!

        Seems Nadine might just take them to task, and this is the best time I suppose, so, ‘Go-Nads’…

        (ahem).

           19 likes

    • digg says:

      Jeff… Sounds like the program needs a warning panel at the start…

      …something along the lines of:

      “Sally Bolloxs, Junior BBC History Revisionist and Total Garbage Dept. Warning: this program contains lies and left-wing fabrication and may disturb people with an honest disposition.”

         23 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Jeff, the BBC got the decade wrong. Typical BBC! There were some far right groups in the seventies but mostly football hooligans and some European fans of ‘hard core’ (that’s the music not the other stuff) who just liked a good punch up and ruckus with the police. (that’s not the Punk band fronted by Sting.) The 1980s took the heat out of them somewhat with the two-tone movement.

         3 likes

  2. vonrecht says:

    Paddy O Connell using his R4 slot (BH) to relentlessly attack both the Conservative Party (conference) and the government on every possible front. This little Labour drone is in his element this morning.
    He also has a feature on ‘men’, who all appear to be super-aggressive sexual predators. Institutionalised sexual mysogeny says one witness on the programme. And we’re still blaming the victims….

       29 likes

  3. Guest Who says:

    BBC Pidgen Geology Dept

    “We never expected something like this would ever happen here.”

    The people of La Palma describe their struggles following a volcanic eruption which began two weeks ago.

    https://bbc.in/2WC1Iz2

    ***
    As quotes go… epic. #ccbgb

       4 likes

    • Guest Who says:

         15 likes

  4. Old Goat says:

    Not really BBC, but Simon and the truth about the Empire Windrush, as it’s black history month year:

       11 likes

  5. digg says:

    Project Brexit shortage fear reaching dizzy new heights at the Guardian.

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/oct/03/first-petrol-then-pasta-now-record-labels-are-running-out-of-vinyl

    Be afraid if you are still using your gramophone!

       16 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      funny, but if they’ve got you talking about that
      that means you are not talking about another issue they are trying to hide.

      #BreadAndCircuses

         11 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      If you play the Newsnight theme backwards it actually is Morse for ‘All Tories Are Peados’.

      FACT.

      Ask Springster.

         7 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Decided to check on the one track ditz after a while.

        Now with a new track. Still mostly her.

           7 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          She deserves her own TV series – then a spot on the baking thing – then the strictly thing – daytime presenting then the holy of holies ‘ Wimmins hours and hours “….Ok Fedup – you are under arrest for a suspect hate crime – aggravated mysogeny….’

             13 likes

          • Scroblene says:

            Any bird who ‘aggravates’ me, is free to do so at any time, as long as I can choose the time of day, sort of kit she’s got on/off, whether I’ve had a few tinctures, and a reasonable night’s sleep before hand…

            Then let’s goferit…

            On the other hand, this fabulous ‘Anno’ G and T seems to bring out the worst in me, so I’d better ask Senora O’Blene first!

               4 likes

      • Zephir says:

        You may have too much time on your hands, maybe a hobby could help

        trty this its an great help for me

           4 likes

        • Zephir says:

          She got her blue paint mixed up with her brown (easy mistake I suppose if you are a colurblind painter) and does not quite understand the mathematical principle of quarters (probably never had a psycopathic Welsh ex boxer as a maths teacher who quite enjoyed demonstating left hooks and undercuts whilst demanding quadtratic equations were solved) but if you can get a second mortgage to be able to purchase some Reeves paint it may take your mind off playing theme tunes backwards

             4 likes

          • Zephir says:

            Minus b plus or minus the square root of b squared mimus 4 ac over 2 a

            I ony wish Mike Tyson was in our clasroom he might have got less homework

               4 likes

          • Fedup2 says:

            Panic buying of oil paints begins – a fight for the last tube of burnt sienna leads to much spillage of cadmium red …see pages 1,2,3,4

               4 likes

  6. Guest Who says:

    There’s #prasnews and then there is…

       1 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      Just out of interest, what exactly is prasnews ?

         3 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        News reporting used to involve journalists knowing their beat, going out to find news, check it and then turn into a verified story of interest, relevance and importance.

        #prasnews is a growing empire of juvenile bbc cubicle garden dwellers sitting at rows of PCs sent stuff by pr companies secure in the knowledge that, if on narrative, will be copy pasted and broadcast unchecked as if it is gospel.

        Many people involved get paid a lot of money in the process.

        The only losers are the public and the cause of truth, accuracy and actual holding of power to account.

           16 likes

        • Guest Who says:

          Ok, the one above is simply filler.

          Trolley dollies have been kicking off the high heels for decades as soon as the seat belt sign goes on.

          https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/05/47/bd05478e643f352ce35b4e5c7bea613c.jpg

             4 likes

        • Thoughtful says:

          Ah ‘PR as News’ ! Makes sense now !

             3 likes

        • Scroblene says:

          When I was working in property some years ago, several agents were known as ‘The PDF boys’, i.e., every time they saw an ad for a building, they’d chuck it to everyone in their database, and sit back and wait to see who might be interested.

          Their fees would already be agreed, so in effect, they did zod all.

          Had they actually done a bit more research, they might have got much more, but their wet ‘system’ beat working and they got a lot of cold shoulder because of all that.

          The BBC do something similar, but get paid by the TV tax whether they do a good job or not.

             8 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      Perhaps they’d like to get a uniform that fitted as well. Just LOOK at those sleeves ! the cuffs are halfway down her hands.

      I did a stint in a gents tailors so these things ‘irk’ me.

         8 likes

  7. Guest Who says:

    There’s holding power to account.

    And bbc holding power to account.

    Rob had his undies straightened by Groper too?

       12 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Maybe that little exchange will prompt nut nut to get on the dog to naddine and tell her to square up those slags …

      Marr calls the PM a liar – maybe Marr was trying to get nut nut to ‘walk’ …

      Mind you – as the economy worstens the BBC is gonna be in hardship heaven all day every day ….

         15 likes

  8. AsISeeIt says:

    No time to die, the Bond movie, goes completely unmentioned

    This weekend the Sunday Telegraph asks: ‘Sarah’s murder. How does a family ever get through something like this?‘ – one finds the question somewhat rhetorical as our media continue to bang on about many and various aspects of the case, assuming, as they tend to do in such sad cases, poor Sarah’s story to be public property.

    The Sunday Mirror shouts about some: ‘Damning new Met probe. 26 more sex crime cops‘ – steady on, just five days ago the Mirror’s hero, that great grey hope, Sir Keir was promising: ‘Under a Labour government, the party would launch a “major recruitment drive” to boost the number of special constables‘ (Guardian 27 September) – do we really want more of the sort of people who would volunteer to be plastic coppers roaming our streets endowed with dubious powers to bully and raise revenue in the form of on-the-spot fines?

    Seems we can’t even safely vet our current crop of cops – and a proper vetting is just what might have been in order when Sarah’s kidnapper first exhibited signs of deviancy.

    Where have all the good cops gone?‘ – laments the Sunday Times. Gone, they certainly have, along with proper uniforms and height requirements, replaced by diversity-minded politically correct appointments.

    The authorities are taking all this very seriously now. And you can see why: ‘Everard killer was guard at the Commons. Officer had “access all areas” at Westminster‘ (Times) – it’s one thing letting these dodgy buggers patrol the streets as PCs, apparently it’s quite another order of magnitude allowing them to potentially rub truncheons with our MPs.

    I see there’s another big media vax push aimed at the youth this weekend: ‘Jurgen Klopp: Liverpool manager says vaccine is ‘”not a limit on freedom”‘ (BBC Sport) – one might ask when did a German ever question regulations, dare one say orders, from authority?

    Oh yeah, that time authority and media required something Klopp didn’t like and where he had skin in the game: ‘Why is Jurgen Klopp so angry with Liverpool’s fixture schedule and why does he blame the media?‘ (Goal December 2020 a welcome guest appearance hereabouts from Goal, the online football news site)

    I feel here, for comedic puposes if for no other reason, we can but mention the war: ‘Thou shalt not mess with Dad’s Army‘ (Daily Star Sunday) – this is their frontpage parish notices, as delivered from the pulpit of St Aldhelm’s Church Walmington-on-Sea by the incumbent vicar Reverend Timothy Farthing: ‘The snowflakes won’t like it up ’em… Dad’s Army legend Frank Williams has gone to war with the BBC for slapping a warning on…

    And if Klopp is in the news to say come on we’re all on the same team and urge the sporty boys and their football fan dads to get the jab, then the Sunday Times takes aim at the girls and aims to frighten the bejesus out of their concerned protective mums: ‘Girl dies of Covid on day she was due to get her jab‘ (Sunday Times) – note the subtle nuance there in the phrase “her jab“. Our headline writers tend to favour brevity and a simple “jab” might have sufficed. Were we to think about it this could have been properly described as Pfizer-BioNTech’s jab, as financed by the Government via the NHS. Allocated to children, not their property as such.

    Jorja Halliday a skateboarder and kickboxer with no known underlying conditions…Sky News adds to her extensive CV as related in the Times: ‘aspiring musician‘ her mother asks: ‘“I want definite answers as to why this has happened to a young, healthy 15-year-old girl”‘ – same here. I’m afraid for all the experts and scientists, we have little choice but to trust that I hear telling us this and that, there’s still too few clear really satisfactory explanations.

    “In Jorja’s case it turned into inflammation of the heart and that’s why when they put her on the ventilator her heart couldn’t take the strain.“‘

    I have absolutely no medical expertise, but I was given to understand that fairly early on ventilators were found to be the wrong way to treat covid patients.

    And on a lighter note, you’ll be thrilled to know it’s Black History Month – always seems to come round quick these days.

    Out with Chaucer, Shakespeare, Dickens and their like: ‘Rewrite the canon‘ demands our teacher’s favourite paper, the Gruaniad-on-Sunday, the Observer: ‘20 lost classics by writers of colour as chosen by Akala, Ben Okri..’, et al.

    Because, kiddies, it is not the quality of their writing but the colour of their skin that matters most.

       29 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit
      I was pondering about that ‘pre programme warning ‘ thing which the MSM so love putting up .

      I thought the same could be applied to ‘contemporary entertainment ‘ with some like

      ‘Warning – this programme contains woke references which most will find offensive ‘….

      Then I thought ‘ why not have a ‘woke meter ‘ on every BBC programme ‘

      Then I thought – don’t be silly Fedup 1 plus 1 – the meter would start high and just get higher ….

         24 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        AISI: “The authorities are taking all this very seriously now. And you can see why: ‘Everard killer was guard at the Commons. Officer had “access all areas” at Westminster‘ (Times) – it’s one thing letting these dodgy buggers patrol the streets as PCs, apparently it’s quite another order of magnitude allowing them to potentially rub truncheons with our MPs.”

        If that’s not bad enough, iirc, Couzens started off as police security at a nuclear site; armed police security. He was walking around a nuclear site with a machine gun.

        “‘“In Jorja’s case it turned into inflammation of the heart and that’s why when they put her on the ventilator her heart couldn’t take the strain.“‘

        If Jorja Halliday had had her jab it would probably have killed her. The vaccines, one especially, do not have a good record on pericarditis and myocarditis and in young people, too.

           3 likes

  9. Fedup2 says:

    Pug – I heard that – st Jeremy ‘love me ‘ Bowen must have been busy saving souls in afgee – he won’t be pleased someone gate crashing his manor …

       8 likes

  10. Fedup2 says:

    Pug – the Australian coal thing seems to have potential for derailing ( hopefully ) the COP thing . I heard that the Aussie PM was talking about not turning up .

    I bet the pressure put on him by the likes of the Head of State will force his hand .

    Every country at COP will sign up to stuff to screw us whilst countries with more important things to do that self harm / abuse – such as China and India and Brazil will carry on exploiting green wokeness where they find it …

    .. burn that coal …

       20 likes

  11. Nibor says:

    I put BH Radio 4 on this morning and learned that women were being attacked and murdered in droves on every street and a heck of a lot of the assailants were policemen . Thus we need not just new policies but a new population as well .
    I presume this is why the programme was pushing for more immigration and very anti Brexit . Judging by BBC news and current affairs coverage ( bogus) asylum seekers don’t do much murdering .

       25 likes

  12. StewGreen says:

    #WhiteManBad
    Radio Humberside schedule today
    01:00 Hayley Hassall
    06:00 Claira Hermet
    17:00 Lizzie Rose
    10:00 Fiona Mills
    14:00 Liz Green
    18:00 Neil Foster ..wow a man
    overnight
    22:00 Steve White (white man)
    01:00 Dotun Adebayo (black guy)
    05:00 Jason Rosam (white man)
    06:00 Kofi Smiles (black guy)
    10:00 Sally Fairfax sits in

       15 likes

  13. JimS says:

    American Gretchen Gerzina is lecturing us on Radio 3 that Black people have always been in the UK and the Beeboid is on his knees begging to put things ‘right’.

       15 likes

    • Barleycorn says:

      What a surprise. Meanwhile, the indoctrination continues apace on BCBeeblings. It’s all part of a strategy to remove ‘indigenous’, or, ‘first nation’ status from the indigenous folk of these islands. Perhaps I’m naive, but don’t Sub-Saharan Africans (aka ‘Black people’) originate from Sub-Saharan Africa, or from their forcibly displaced descendants in the Caribbean and Americas, and not from Europe and Europe’s Islands? When it suits the Beeb to be ‘creative’ with history and genetics, it routinely conflates ALL the African continent’s peoples (inc. Berbers, Arabs, Egyptians, and so on…) with the Africa of ‘Black People’- especially when it comes to the wonders of Ancient Egypt, and their creators. In this instance, not ancient Egyptians, but ‘Africans’, and thus reflecting the ‘great civilisations’ that Black people engendered. Give the Beeb an inch, and it will extrapolate a cultural, genetic and anthropological mile. Look at the ‘Mary Rose’ programme: the faintest hint of an ‘Africa’ on board- in reality, it emerged, a North African of Berber origin and not a ‘Black African’ (sub-Saharan)- and we have miraculously have a large black community in Tudor Britain; descended, no doubt, from the neolithic Africans living in Cheddar Gorge…

         22 likes

      • JimS says:

        It can’t be long before the BBC starts pushing the idea that Nigerians are the indigenous people of these isles, a land of harmony, high culture and learning.

        Then German barbarians arrived and carried out genocide and raised all the Nigerian cities and libraries to the ground.

           7 likes

  14. micknotmike says:

    Today on our beloved national broadcaster, an article which should have been titled “Upcoming slight shortages which we intend to push and push until you are in a panic-driven frenzy”. It’s pretending to be a list of things which are in short supply. Of course it’s all the fault of good ol’ Brexit. I didn’t realise that we never had shortages of anything at all while we were in the EU. I’m sure my local supermarket ran out of bread around 1975 or thereabouts, but strikes, three day weeks, oil crises and so on must have happened in the 1950s and 60s.
    Of course those of us old enough to remember the “Great 2020-21 coronovirus scam” (In ten years time people will be saying “What was that all about?”) realise that you can’t keep the proles down where they belong unless you give them a steady diet of things to fear. That’s why we have the bbc. Coronovirus was serious, sure, but boy did the propaganda machines make a meal of it.

       24 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      mick, we also had gluts while in the EU as crafty folk found out how to milk the Brussels system for extra cash. Do you not remember ‘wine lakes’ and ‘butter mountains’? Then there was the awful waste and damage to fish stocks and wildlife through the CFP.

         4 likes

  15. tomo says:

    The “government company” that now runs the roads was an excercise in peculation that handed out a fresh load of directorships + executive positions to connected cronies.

    Bonuses and awards all round.

    The amount of kit that seems to spend months not being used rusting and growing algae is epic – there seems to be no oversight – which suits the participants just fine thank you.

       9 likes

  16. tomo says:

    One young chap operating mostly from his grandad’s shed can make better programs ( on his ownsome, I think…) than an army of meejah studies graduates with access to £4billion quids….

       15 likes

    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      Which is why my kids, and their mates, and just about everyone of their generation, and an increasing number of their parents too, are far more interested in YouTube than in what’s on the BBC.

      This is what will eventually kill off the Beeb, not Boris and the ‘evil’ Tories… and there is nothing the BBC can do to stop it… quite satisfying really.

         16 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        That neatly illustrates what Colin Brazier was talking with David Starkey about on GB News: British invention, innovation and enterprise. Well done to the lad.

           12 likes

  17. Guest Who says:

    I suppose I should first click to find out who anyone involved was, but being the bbc this would likely leave me little wiser.

    So I went to the comments.

    Which can often bring up possibly pertinent #prasnews context.

    Allegedly.

       10 likes

  18. Up2snuff says:

    There was an interesting difference between the 7 a.m. and 8 a.m. News broadcasts on BBC R4. The earlier forecast mentioned a large Protest that had taken place yesterday “against President Jair Bolsonaro and his handling of the Covid Pandemic in Brazil.” The report went on to mention the number of deaths attributed to the Covid virus in Brazil – the second highest in the world – rounded up (not unreasonably) by the BBC to 600,000.

    What was unreasonable was that this news report gave a distinct impression that the demonstration was a popular ‘uprising’, an almost spontaneous event, from all the population. The telephone lines to the BBC may have been a little warm after that 7 a.m. news. In the 8 a.m. version, it was stated that the demonstration had been organised by, iirc, a coalition of Leftists and worker groups.

    You know you can trust the deceitful BBC.

       22 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Crafting narratives requires refining.

      whereas if you are just telling truth right from the start…

         2 likes

  19. Guest Who says:

    OT, but in the great ‘man’ era of news, every so often a recent location gets substituted with a method of attack.

    Assuming not a 50s camp horror buff or rapper with huge pantaloons.

       12 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      They’ll declare him ‘mental ‘ thus avoiding publicly naming him ..

         7 likes

      • Zephir says:

        unless he is white and found to have a German 20th century history book in his possesion, then it will be open day for his public dissection

           7 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      I searched for witness words ..nothing
      AFAIK the 48 hours to charge ends at 10:30pm
      so they’ll have to name him then.

         8 likes

  20. StewGreen says:

    TV prog the foreigners “were due to come in their tens of thousands, so in many countryside places simple barracks of wooden huts were put up
    .. and when they arrived they were put to work on local farms”

    Yesterday channel just talking about Italian prisoners of war being brought in in 1941 after our victory in the north African campaign.

    So why do the modern refugees put up in big 4 star city hotels
    and not given any form of work ?
    .. all apparently dreaming of living in London.

       17 likes

  21. Northern Voter says:

    Mrs Voter was watching 60 years of Songs of Praise. It looked more like a furniture advertising casting session, where the actors sang hymns.

       16 likes

  22. Dover Sentry says:

    Just finished watching the recent cinematic release ‘1917’. Without going into great detail with spoilers, I didn’t realise that 10% of British soldiers in the trenches were black. That is exactly how history is now being portrayed.

    ‘1917 the Sequel’ will of course portray 50% black.

    Is our BBC angry about this lie? Of course not.

    I shall remake Zulu, with 10% of the Zulus being white. Our BBC would certainly then sit up and take notice… 😉

       21 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Dover – I’ve seen it too – I thought it was spoilt by bad casting – I thought the main players were too ‘modern ‘ – especially their discussion about vegan bully beef and multiculturalism in the trenches ….
      I also found it to be one of those films where I wanted to look at my watch – however interested i am in the period .

      Im just finishing a book about the American Civil War – that was a true monster – and almost beyond belief . For instance – confederate soldiers were never given a ‘burial ‘ – just dumped in a big hole …. Which didn’t even happen in wars between Blighty and the krauts …

         9 likes

  23. StewGreen says:

    Channel 5 is trailing their new Carole Drinkwater series
    6 episodes on Sunday evenings commencing 10th October

    After acting in All Creatures she married a French TV producer and became an olivence farmer in Provence
    and then a best selling author.

       1 likes

  24. Fedup2 says:

    Time for a new thread – another week ahead of beating up male plod – public sympathy for them is rapidly disappearing …and woke doesn’t work .

       1 likes

  25. StewGreen says:

    9:45pm BBC2 Black movie night is just starting
    – A James Baldwin story set in 1970s Harlem
    then
    – I am Not Your Negro

    FAzCf61XEAEkZMi?format=jpg&name=small

       0 likes

  26. StewGreen says:

    the Times TV guide shows me into those
    cos it is a bit obsessed with highlighting black & woke programming
    but after a lull the schedule is filling up with wokeness

    I made some notes yesterday, but went out today.
    On page 2, @Jeff already mentioned the Ridley Road “far right drama”

    9pm BBC2 Monday An homage to Tony Blair and Gordon Brown ..5 episodes FFS

    For Sunday the Times gives half a page to Ridley Road 4 part drama about the would be Nazi leader Colin Jordan

    Then their #2 is Earshot the Prince William /Attenborough series of 5 Global Warming sermons
    I think they have pulled a trick; they know that 6p slot is the Sunday biggie as people stop watch their local news and then Countryfile so they’ve moved them to an hour early and given Prince William the prime spot.

    Flipping Attenborough is not only on at 6pm, he was on at 3:40pm too
    Then Packam and daughter were on BBC2 at 8:30pm followed romesh
    followed by Black film night.

    10:30pm BBC4 One prog that isn’t woke : a doco about Jewish influence on German classical music.
    Interesting , and we don’t get many progs about Jewish culture

       2 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      To top that pg 8 of the Times is used for their Green campaigning
      So they plugged the Prince William/ Attenborough prog there too.

      As well as an item “90% of us breathe unclean air everyday”
      .. What does that even mean ?
      We don’t breather CLEANED air we breathe natural air
      And natural air is intrinsically UNCLEAN, yet our lungs have evolved to cope with the particles and poisons it contains.

      Hang on Discovery Networks have a 10 tweet thread promoting the show
      Why is a US private corp promoting a BBC show ?

      https://twitter.com/Discovery/status/1444758898427244547

         3 likes

  27. Thoughtful says:

    i see there are unconfirmed reports of Chinese military jets landing at Bagram air base. Hasn’t taken them long and once this utter defeat of the US military gets back to the people I think Bidens falling popularity is going to fall even further.

    The aggressions China is showing to Taiwan is growing, and Biden is more interested in training his military in diversity and critical race theory than he is in training them for war. This has resulted in the US Navy being declared unfit to fight and they would be slaughtered if they went to war with China.

    Not that sleepy Joe would care, he would probably boast of how the most diverse and equality driven massacre in history was achieved !

       8 likes

  28. Guest Who says:

    A weak is a long stay in politicised media.

    Pandora’s box seems to have a back door at W1A.

       1 likes