Midweek Thread 6 October 2021

The BBC and its’ mass media friends are intent on increasing shortages – either actual or fictional . It’s a dream subject for the BBC – it can both frighten people and blame its’ enemy – the government – Brexit – you – me …….

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  1. Dover Sentry says:

    Tonight, our BBC did their first ever positive feature about Brexit!

    No, not really… 🙁

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  2. Fedup2 says:

    Dover – you had me there ( or maybe just fakes news ) . …

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Channel4 now : Murder mystery show set on a remote Scottish Island
    The barmaid is black , two of the amateur detectives are black
    .. is what I noticed in a 30 second glance.

    Adverts now,
    – black guy in a super-power wheelchair : The National Lottery advert.
    – mixed race couple camping : Boomin advert
    – Sky Vega dvert , just one actor a white American.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Lesbian kiss now .

      3 of the pairs of amateur detectives seem white
      Most of the people seem to be from London

      The Chief detective boss is an ethnic Indian woman.

      It’s unwatchable cos of constant brainwashing background music.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Look how happy they are all to be there.

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        Indeed! I see our BBC made sure that the black woman was pushed to the front of the support group. How reassuringly diverse !

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  4. Fedup2 says:

    Stew – I saw a trailer lorry for that and wondered if it is bad taste in the current circumstances . The white famous actor did it ( applying the morse formula )…

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    • JohnC says:

      Morse is so out of date now : the white famous actor did still do it, but the black actor gets accused by racists first.

         18 likes

  5. StewGreen says:

    Shop Well for the Planet?
    begins Thursday 14th October at 8pm on BBC One.
    Blurb The gang help a family go green and save some cash.
    Eco toilet roll and natural deodorant are put through their paces,
    and how will the family get on with a new electric car?

    The presenters of Shop Well for Less and Eat Well for Less join forces to see if we can live a greener lifestyle and save money along the way. Chris Bavin and Jordan Banjo look at our food choices, while Melanie Sykes and Joanna Page tackle our shopping habits.

    This week, the team are in Essex to help the Fortington-Neave family go green and save some much-needed cash.
    ✅ posh name
    Life is busy for mum Alison and dad Alex. They have a packed schedule looking after their two active sons, 7 & 11
    Now the whole family want to try to help the planet, but they don’t know where to start.
    – set up a pop-up shop filled with the family’s main areas of eco-concern and reveal their average carbon footprint.
    They are shocked to find out how much over the national average they currently are.
    To turn the family’s house green, the team swap their usual cleaning products for homemade versions and eliminate some of their single-use plastic.
    Jordan and Chris take on committed carnivore Alex and try to convince him that going meat-free a couple of days a week doesn’t have to be painful.
    Can they turn him around with their simple and quick veg curry?

    ✅ Pushing Veganism

    Prog tests eco varieties of toilet rolls, natural deodorants, Fairtrade chocolate
    As a dog owner, Jordan wants to investigate what the impact of our pets is on the planet.
    He travels to Scotland
    (that’s not eco)
    to meet the owner of an eco-friendly dog food business and find out what his secret ingredient is.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0010k49

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  6. StewGreen says:

    @Thoughtful posted
    Boris Johnson slaps down new Culture Secretary Nadine Dorries for saying the BBC might not EXIST in a decade with PM claiming the ‘great institution’ will exist ‘for a long time to come’

    Oh dear, a sign of things to come from Blue Labour

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10060911/Boris-Johnson-slaps-Culture-Secretary-Nadine-Dorries-attack-BBC.html

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    • taffman says:

      StewGreen
      He has got to go, he is a left-wing, Liberal buffoon showman!
      Why on earth do the Tory Party put up with him ?

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      • Doublethinker says:

        I think that Boris is increasingly out of step with many of his cabinet colleagues and the Tory party membership on this BBC issue and his bonkers green agenda.
        The problem is that he is still regarded as an election winner and so there will be reluctance to get rid of him. If he loses an election or trails significantly in the polls he will be gone in an instant. But if they do ditch him can we be certain that a true blue conservative , strong on Brexit, anti immigration, not a climate change loon and a sound BBC hater, will be chosen in his place? No we can’t , the various unelected liberal establishment blobs , which run our supposedly democratic country , Brexit was an anomaly where the people ,almost uniquely in our recent , history won, will get a blob establishment creature into No 10 eg a traitor May clone.

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    • Nibor says:

      Yeah well other great institutions like The Third Reich and Stalin`s USSR were projected to exist for long times ahead .

      Perhaps he thinks they will limp on existing like the Liberals . Perhaps if the Conservative party doesn`t take on this main danger to its existence (the BBC -forget the Labour party ) it might not exist for a long time to come .

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      • taffman says:

        The only viable opposition is a coalition of The Reform Party , The For Britain Party and UKIP ?

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    • Scroblene says:

      The awful bbc can hang around for as long as it likes, as long as we don’t have to pay for such a sub-standard bunch of over-paid clowns in W1AA.

      They’ve seen how difficult it is to stand on their own two feet, from GBNews’ new venture, but that’s their problem, they’re not really good enough to go it alone, so rely on pensioners propping them up.

      Is a ‘dressing down’ by Boris something like the tired old saying, ‘being nuzzled by a dead sheep’?

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    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      This is absolutely shocking news! What an utter rat bag Boris Johnson has become. He contradicts and thereby humiliates his newly appointed culture secretary over the BBC which is supposed to be her job now.
      He is, in effect, saying to her “I’ve put you there as a decoy, a puppet, to make it look like I care about the public’s wishes. Now shut your gob”
      He is saying to his party, “The BBC will continue to exist way into the future and you lot will have to put up with being constantly undermined by the most powerful leftwing propaganda organisation in the country paid for by people who don’t want it.”
      He is saying to the BBC. “I assure you of your continuing existence so may you continue to act as a far-left mouthpiece and distort the news in anyway you want to bring down Britain. There will be no consequences from my government”

      This vile creature is no friend of anybody but the Woke. It was once a promising politician but has so quickly slipped into the world of political slime and excrement. It was spawned in New York and carried an American passport. I wish it would return there for good, it would be happy among the politically corrupt decaying Democrat detritus instead of occupying the position of British PM like some odious giant Lib Dem slug when the position should go a patriotic Brit who knows what to do and will get it done.

      This news is the worst news for people on here and all that we hope to achieve. There’s no hope while Boris the bubonic blob is in power.

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  7. taffman says:

    “Greggs warns of staff shortages and rising costs”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58800158

    Despite Al Beeb’s negative headlines, the company appears to be very optimistic?………………
    “But the company, which has more than 2,100 shops but now plans to hit 3,000 over the next few years”
    HYS, CCBGB

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    • Nibor says:

      All businesses have to face rising costs . The main rising costs will be government taxes levied against them .
      A lot of the taxation is spent on the welfare state like unemployment , due to British workers being put on the dole by foreign workers undercutting them .

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  8. taffman says:

    “Boris Johnson: I’m not worried over jobs gap and rising prices”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58800329
    I and millions of others are.

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    • JohnC says:

      The National debt is now estimated at £150,000 per UK taxpayer.

      Meanwhile we are doing things like paying block-booked Travel-Lodges £270 a night (along with God knows what for private security firms to keep the nosy public out) for thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants.

      That worries me a lot. I can’t even begin to conceive what the consequences of this could be.

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      • JimS says:

        If we let in 75 million Nigerians it will only be £75,000 per taxpayer!

        (Apart from the £7,500,000,000,000 p.a. hotel bill)

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        • Scroblene says:

          Got an idea…

          Why not sell our ‘National Debt’ direct to China, and cut out the middle men in Wesminster and people like Soros?

          Sorted!

          (Oh, and the bbc will have to go of course – not wanted on voyage)!

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  9. taffman says:

    “Carrie Johnson: How much influence does the PM’s wife have?”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58804604
    What do you, dear readers think ?

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    • JohnC says:

      When it comes to Carrie, I agree with Cummings.

      I see the BBC ‘deputy political editor’ who wrote that is another ‘oppressed’ woman and here’s what she writes in their name:

      ‘but the idea she’s pulling the strings is ridiculous, it stems from misogyny and jealousy’

      ‘it’s a positive thing that Boris Johnson has someone with political nous to offer words of wisdom.’

      ‘She’s very savvy, highly political and incredibly forceful.’

      ‘He says ministers joke amongst themselves about who she is reported to dislike, but many of the names that had been circulating recently survived in their jobs.’. So an undisclosed amount didn’t.

      And a whole load of other stuff praising her whilst dismissing the multitude of negatibe opinions from those much closer to her than ‘Vicki’ at the BBC.

      Doesn’t sound anything like the batsh1t crazy woman screaming her head off at Boris for spilling wine on her sofa.

      Her twitter is another BBC woke fest. She retweets a black MP complaining that not enough blacks got to speak in Parliament after a selection process which picks people entirely at random.

      So it seems ‘the laws of chance’ are racist now as well.

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      • Scroblene says:

        All they have to do is revisit the memoirs of Lady Forkbender from all those years ago!

        When Private Eye was worth reading, they’d go for the throat on that particular ‘influential’ person!

        Wislon? Who?

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  10. taffman says:

    Not on Al Beeb yet but, The culling of pigs has started ?
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10060169/Pig-cull-BEGINS-Farmers-forced-slaughter-500-animals.html
    If they are dead, why cannot they be eaten ?

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    • tomo says:

      Drive some pigs to London and let them loose around Broadcasting House, Downing Street, Parliament Square and say Hyde Park…

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    • Grumbler says:

      To be fit for human consumption they have to be completely bled out before death. That’s why animals are stunned – to keep the heart going as long as possible to pump the blood out from their slit carotid or aorta. If for sale they need to be properly inspected.

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      • Deborah says:

        Grumbler, sounds as though killing animals the kosher way works (upside down and the throat cut to drain the blood). Kosher pigs possibly?

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  11. JimS says:

    One from 2013, a repeat on Radio 4 Extra, Shipbuilding. I thought it was a dirge by elvis Costello but:-

    Written by Elvis Costello and Clive Langer for Robert Wyatt, Shipbuilding was recorded in several versions by Elvis Costello himself, Suede, June Tabor, Hue and Cry, Tamsin Archer and The Unthanks.

    The blend of subtle lyrics and extraordinary music makes this a political song like no other. It transcends the particular circumstances of its writing: the Falklands War and the decline of British heavy industry, especially ship-building.

    Clive and Elvis describe how the song was written in 1982 and how legendary jazz trumpeter and flugelhorn player, Chet Baker, came to perform on Costello’s version.

    Philosopher Richard Ashcroft wants the song, which he sees as a kind of secular hymn, played at his funeral because it gives a perfect expression of how he believes we should think about life. Not being able to feel the emotion of the song would, he feels, be like being morally tone-deaf. If you don’t like this song, he’d find it hard to be your friend.

    The song’s achingly beautiful final couplet about “diving for pearls” makes former MP Alan Johnson cry.
    It’s also inspired an oral history and migrant integration project in Glasgow. Chris Gourley describes how the participants found a way to overcome their lack of English and communicate through a shared understanding of ship-building practice.

    Other contributors include Hopi Sen, a political blogger who was an unusually political child, and the Mercury Prize winning folk group The Unthanks. They toured their version to towns with ship-building connections as part of a live performance of a film tracing the history of British ship-building using archive footage.

    Well if nothing else I was able to marvel at the confused mind of those ‘on the left’. You see it was about the Falklands conflict, which was wrong, probably because of Margaret Thatcher. But what of the ‘working class’ in the Falklands?

    The fighting would go on for a long time, which would need more ships, which was good, except that it didn’t. Shipbuilding is good, but it isn’t because men and women shouldn’t be split up as they were in mining and steel making and shipbuilding.

    In any case the ‘working class’ always get to fight the battles, so that is bad. Except that men of all classes used to ‘sign-up’ and junior officers were most likely to be killed in WW1 and probably are always up there because of the British military tradition of ‘leading from the front’ and never expecting the men to do anything that their officer wouldn’t.
    (Aside: Arthur Smith was sneering at officers held at Colditz because they went to Eton and his dad acted as batman).

    Got to love these Class Warriors who never worked in heavy industry or took the Queen’s Shilling, who love everyone as long as they didn’t go to Eton or vote ‘Tory’.

    Still sounds like a dirge to me.

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    • Scroblene says:

      Yup, it is a dirge, it’s on YouTube if you can be bothered to waste a few minutes.

      Why does Costello always sound like kids who pretend to be minor slebs, and use skipping ropes as mics?

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    • dhunter says:

      just listened to it – sounds like a musical mishmash to me & dreary/cr*p or dirge as JimS says.

      “The song’s achingly beautiful final couplet about “diving for pearls” makes former MP Alan Johnson cry.

      why I wonder ?

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  12. taffman says:

    “Man dies after three stabbed near Tewkesbury”

    Another one of those “men” again ?

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    • JohnC says:

      I’ve noticed the reports of these attacks tend to fall into 3 main groups:

      White = One person against someone they know and usually motivated by something which happened previously.

      Muslim = One person motivated by religion-based hate committing indiscriminate murder of anyone (man, woman or child) they can get before they are stopped – often by being shot dead.

      Black = Groups of youths committing robbery against lone targets or gangs hitting other gangs in their drug turf wars. Usually 3 or 4 quickly arrested as the police know them already.

      As far as reporting by the BBC goes:
      Option 1 gets the full treatment : background, motivation etc.

      Options 2 has little background information – we might get some information on gang warfare. But the subject of the colour of the attackers is not mentioned. We only find out if the police released any pictures or court drawings.

      Option 3 gets no background information at all. Just the bare facts of what happened. because these are the most barbaric, feral murders of all. Nobody is safe from them : there is no reason behind who gets to die. And if the general public realise that, it makes using these people as ‘victims’ against your political enemy (the Right) very difficult.

      This one sounds like option 1.

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  13. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – did I hear that right? 6,000,000/

    I have been wondering this week if the BBC are deliberately ‘gaslighting’ the British TV viewer and Radio listener. Example 1. Pandora Papers ≠ Panama Papers. This morning I thought I was told that the £20 Universal Credit uplift ends finally today for six million people. 6,000,000! Is that correct? My radio is not very clear at present (it’s old and possibly about to give up the ghost) and I’m wondering if I heard that right.

    The BBC have said that 60% of the people who receive UC, and the £20 temporary increase, are in work. That means 40% of six million ie. 2,400,000 are unemployed. This is rather different to the 5% of a 33,000,000 to 33,500,000 million UK work force that the ONS state is unemployed, ie. 1.5 -1.6million. Has the UK workforce become ‘work-shy’?

    Perhaps Marianna Spring or Tim Harford might like to look into this. Will they?

    I wonder?

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    • theisland says:

      Nah – Ms Spring has been directed to concentrate on Frances Haugen and her “truths”.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Springster on phartgate yet?

        Of course the bbc would not be reduced to silly political gotchas.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54002505

        One MP present said he had been “full of beans”

        Oh, Ms. Nathoo, the cubicle gardens will have stood in ovation.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Guest “Of course the bbc would not be reduced to silly political gotchas.” 🙂 x 5

          Oh yeah? Of course they are doing that. The BBC = devious, manipulative Socialism at work.

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        • JohnC says:

          Everybody knows you buy the 4-pack of Branstons when they are on offer for £2. As they regularly are.

          Though now we are going to suffer the consequences of furlough and people who just can’t be bothered to go back to a job they hate, I suspect the baked-bean glory days are over.

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          • Scroblene says:

            If they’re at home all day from now on, which a daughter is, and loving the time to work proper hours away from a hideous London workplace, (and saving a shedload on trains from Kent), there’s plenty of time to make a home-made soup, with proper ingredients.

            If there are skivers out there, then it’ll have to be something to get used to, because there’s no excuse for not even trying to feed the family on a budget.

            You’d hope that the BBC could concentrate on doing progs which explain to KFC/McDonalds customers, that there are much better things to concoct than roadkill and chips…

            Farting around baking cakes etc., is hardly a comparison for a bit of hard work in the kitchen, although it will mean half an hour less lying in bed every morning.

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      • Guest Who says:

        The BME.

        Facebook puts profit before people, says ex-employee

        A former Facebook employee has told US lawmakers that the company’s sites and apps “harm children, stoke division and weaken our democracy”. Frances Haugen, a 37-year-old former product manager turned whistleblower, criticised the company at a hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington DC. “The company’s leadership knows how to make Facebook and Instagram safer, but won’t make the necessary changes because they have put their astronomical profits before people,” she said. But founder Mark Zuckerberg hit back – saying recent coverage painted a “false picture” of the company.

        ***
        Can’t have false pictures now, can we bbc? Maybe, just, not the full story?

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        • MarkyMark says:

          Facebook was where Pakistan could debate religion. Now it’s a tool to punish ‘blasphemers’
          This article is more than 4 years old
          Laws that criminalize insulting Islam have led to a death sentence for posts, as activists worry Facebook’s commitment to Pakistanis’ ‘voice’ is mostly lip service

          pakistani man in internet cafe
          By 2016, government requests for Facebook users’ data had risen to 2,460 accounts, with the company complying with about two-thirds. Photograph: Asif Hassan/AFP/Getty Images
          Sune Engel Rasmussen in Kabul, Afghanistan, and Julia Carrie Wong
          Sat 22 Jul 2017 01.40 BST

          https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/19/facebook-pakistan-blasphemy-laws-censorship

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    • Up2snuff says:

      UPDATE Yes, I did hear right: 6,000,000. That means the commonly accepted figure by the ONS for the UK workforce is incorrect. The UK workforce, if the 5% unemployed figure is correct, means that the UK workforce is 48,000,000 or forty-eight million! What does that mean for the UK population size? It must be eighty million or more and nothing like the 69point something that the ONS estimate for 2021.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        YET ANOTHER UPDATE TO TOADY Watch #1

        Intriguingly, Nick Robinson in his Prime Interview slot with SoS for Justice, Dominic Raab, quote the figure for the recipents of the temporary £20 UC uplift as 5.5 million. Interesting and interestinger.

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  14. Guest Who says:

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    • Scroblene says:

      It was only Toenails, Guest, so who really cares…

      The only bloke I can remember tearing someone as bad as Robinson off a strip was Jeffrey Archer! He went for the throat back then!

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  15. AsISeeIt says:

    Gain of function, slogans and it is all about the messaging

    The Telegraph this morning sets out the message Boris would want us to hear: ‘PM: I’ve got the guts to make us a high-wage country. Johnson to reject return to “uncontrolled immigration” as he “tackles problems his prodecessors ignored”‘ – this functions as one those pre-speech press releases now favoured by politicians.

    The snub to party conference, fobbing them off later today with a repeat when they thought they were getting a premier, is somewhat less unconstitutional than snubbing the proper procedural functions of the Commons in this way – but nevertheless tends to emphasise the notion that it’s more about the message than the action these days.

    I’ve got the guts sounds like the reaction and bravado of a tubby schoolboy who feels his manhood is being called into question at sports.

    Cue rerun of the mental image of Boris flattening that small kid to the ground as the burly politician joined a school boy game of rugby in 2015. You’re supposed to kiss the babies and pat kids on the head. Except if you’re Joe Biden and then you take a sniff of their hair.

    The FT shows us the real opposition to ever closing our borders to all and sundry comes not just from the political Left: ‘Johnson steps up battle with business over immigration. Message “horrifies” corporate bosses

    Don’t worry, chaps, no need to react with horror in the boardrooms, it’s likely just a message.

    The FT unashamedly ties its globalist colours – just below the masthead: ‘China can capitalise on demise of property bubble‘; ‘Time for a green deal clean energy policies need less talk and more action‘ – one feels impatience and some irritation with democracy and debate getting in the way of the New World Order over there at the FT.

    I’ll say this for the globalists – they certainly know the importance of putting out the right media message – look how they clutch their handbags at: ‘French Fox. The news channel that put rightwinger Zemmour centre stage

    And, speaking of handbags, if the FT does the Lady Bracknell impression: “A Rightwinger!

    Then Wikipedia says three Hail Marys and throws salt over its right shoulder: ‘Éric Justin Léon Zemmour is a French political journalist, essayist and writer, commonly presented as a far-right pundit in many French media‘ – can’t be having that, can we?

    Meanwhile, pictured frontpage in the Telegraph, Express, Times and Mail: ‘Carrie Johnson arriving at the Conservative Party conference yesterday...’ (I’ve redacted Carrie’s fashion details in the interest of brevity) ‘... told a meeting of activists that her husband was “completely committed…” – that must be a relief, Carrie. Oh, sorry, I’ve jumped the gun with that quote: ‘…to potecting gay rights‘ – fair enough. ‘...and is looking at “extending them further”‘ – eh? And what exactly would that entail?

    I can’t help but be reminded of Bob Hope’s controversial joke about the diminishing historical penalty for homosexuality in California: “I’m getting out before they make it compulsory

    The freebie Metro references the catchphrase of children’s TV favourite Bob the Builder to mock Boris’s Tory conference Build Back Better slogan (borrowed off Biden and likely first coined at Davos): ‘Can he fix it? No, he can’t! Boris says it’s up to private sector not him, to sort out disruption crippling Britain‘ – which is probably true – although it is a message voters don’t like to hear – and his administration sure managed to cripple it with their Lockdown.

    Speaking of which: ‘Wuhan and US scientists planned to make “new” virus‘ (Telegraph) – remember folks, it’s not a conspiracy theory, if it’s true.

    The giveaway Metro’s frontpage pin up lady in red is not the toothy Carrie Nut Nut but a young lady in seasonal red mackintosh and wellies: ‘Phoebe Dynevor on the pressure of fame. Bridgerton, therapy and me‘ – good to see the female celeb angst feature alive and well and going strong in the media as usual.

    The ‘i’ takes up the feminist cudgels today to further batter men as monsters: ‘Bernadine Everisto “on the day I left my boyfriend, he wrapped his hands around my neck and squeezed it…” Exclusive extract from her new book‘ – Meanwhile in further female fantasy, the S&M popular porno 40 Shades of Grey was the best selling women’s novel of all time – go figure?

    The FT frontpage prime advertising spot suggests readers: ‘Make a change‘ – here we go with the utopian sloganeering… this is EDHEC Business School who appear to offer some business and finance training amid all the global warming tosh they spout: ‘If you care about climate change, you can start with finance‘ – amusingly, one clicks on their website and the improbaly named Minmin, a Chinese postgraduate, appears in pop up, offering to tell you more about student life.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      AISI, you do wonder at the intelligence of some wimmin. Why did Phoebe Dynevor go into acting rather than an anonymous desk job, why did she try for a major role in Bridgerton instead of being an extra in a movie or crowd scene in Coronation Street if she couldn’t handle the ‘pressure of fame’? Phoebe Dynevor is obviously sixpence short of the full shilling.

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  16. Guest Who says:

    Speaking of in touch, blonde bubble bombshell Laura on Mr. Carrie in the BME:

    “ PM risks looking out of touch

    Boris Johnson is famous for looking publicly on the bright side. Making people laugh, making people feel good, is part of what successful politicians do. His optimism is what defines his public persona. It’s also what fuels accusations that he isn’t serious about the country’s problems and would rather crack a joke than crack a problem.

    Don’t doubt though for a moment that Boris Johnson is deadly serious about power and holding on to it. But there is concern in some corners of government – including among some cabinet ministers – that Number 10 is brushing away concerns about the economy too easily.

    Read full analysis >

    Laura Kuenssberg
    BBC political editor

    ***
    Risky. Fuelling accusations, and stuff. And a lot of ‘some’.

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  17. Guest Who says:

    And finally, on the BME, a press release from an old friend of the bbc.

    ***

    Woman arrested at Everard vigil ‘contacted by 50 officers on Tinder’

    A woman who was pictured being arrested at the Sarah Everard vigil has said about 50 police officers have since contacted her via a dating app, leaving her terrified. Patsy Stevenson, 28, said the officers approached her on Tinder after she was handcuffed at the vigil on 13 March. She said they knew she was “fearful of police” and had done it “for a reason”. The Met said its officers “must abide by our high standards of professional behaviour, both on and off duty”.

    Maybe she can add on her public search for partners
    bio page ‘no police, dogs or Tory scum’? If allowed.

    Reading the link, it seems much remains in the realms of claim at present, so maybe BBC Lauren Moss might invite BBC Specialist Unsubstantiated Claim Investigator Springster to check further to see if what the BBC runs with is based on fact, or is #prasnews and might need quietly dropping down the line?

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  18. Guest Who says:

    “Better protections from harmful online videos”

    You know who best to decide? Yes… those lovely folk at OFCOM rammed with experience in ‘getting it about right’ and ideological no-nos.

    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations-and-statements/category-1/guidance-vsp-harmful-material-measures?

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  19. Guest Who says:

    The sultana tin looks awesome.

    Vile cancelling Femi today?

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    • JohnC says:

      You can’t ‘shrug off a crisis’.
      It actually shows the ‘supply chain crisis’ for what it is. Grossly exaggerated media anti-Brexit left-wing spite.
      Something they have in abundance at the BBC.

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  20. Guest Who says:

    One broadcaster, one editorial suite, one edit.

    “Since the high profile killings of women like Sarah Everard and Sabina Nessa, a national conversation has opened up about women’s safety.

    Women across the UK have been sharing their experiences online and discussing how safe they feel in public.
    Radio 1 Newsbeat has listened in to one of these conversations, between 23-year-old Amy, her mum and her nan

    ***
    Listening in? Uh huh.

    Representative? Uh huh.

    Those who ‘share their experiences online’ appear very bbc already, before vetting.

    I wonder if all three are on Tinder too?

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      All about feminism and man-hate. Nothing to do with the facts.

         22 likes

    • micknotmike says:

      Maybe my eyesight is going, but I genuinely cannot tell which one is the Mother and which is the Grandma.

         9 likes

  21. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – HMG are really missing Cain and Cummings in No.10 Downing Street

    There is an obvious lack of preparedness across the Cabinet. Former Foreign Secretary, now Secretary of State for Justice, allows Nick Robinson to get away with at least two canards. The first is Nick’s oft repeated claim that the Conservatives have been in Government for eleven years. Nick Robinson knows this is not true because he was the BBC’s Political Editor at the time of the 2010 General Election and covered the formation of the Coalition Government that lasted until the summer of 2015.

    The second bit of devious intervewing is that Nick gives the impression that the £400 billion of HMG’s Pandemic spending is money created out of thin air and is not a debt on present and future taxpayers to the third or fourth generation. Dominic Raab should have pointed out that Nick Robinson’s great-grandchildren will be paying off the £20pm Universal Credit uplift if it should be made permanent as the BBC claim so many want it to be.

    Raab should have done. But he did not.

       17 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      We were elected to bring inflation down. We brought it down. It was and still is a series of continuing battles which commands our unremitting effort. The pessimists told us it could not be done. They under-estimated three things: This Government, you, Sir Geoffrey HoweMr. President, and the British people. [end p1]

      We were elected to reform the trade unions. With the support of millions of trade unionists, we have passed two major acts of Parliament. And what a lot we owe to Norman Tebbit. But there is a lot more to do, a great deal more, and you can rely on us to do it.

      We were elected to extend home ownership, and we gave council tenants the right to buy their own homes. And never let it be forgotten that Labour fought it tooth and nail in their local councils, in Parliament and through the courts. It was not part of their philosophy that council tenants should acquire the rights and dignity of freeholders. It is because of Conservative conviction and persistence that nearly three quarters of a million more council tenants have either bought or are buying their homes, and with Ian Gow as Minister of Housing there will be many, many more.

      We were elected to reduce direct taxation. We have reduced the rates of income tax, and we have raised the thresholds. But there are still too many people paying income tax and the burden is still too great. The fight for lower taxes will go on, and no one will fight harder to bring them down than our new Chancellor of the Exchequer, Nigel Lawson.

      We were elected to strengthen the forces of law and order. Thanks to Willie Whitelaw there are now more policemen, better paid, better equipped, than ever before, and more of them back on the beat. But as you heard from Leon Brittan, this Government is reinforcing its efforts. But it is not just a case of “leave it to Leon” . Law and order is not just his problem—it involves every citizen in the land. None of us can opt out.

      We were elected with a clear commitment to the European Community and to fight tenaciously for British interests within it. We have honoured that commitment, We have both fought for our interests and extended our influence. But we are not half-hearted members of the Community. We are in, and we are in to stay. And I look forward to another famous victory in the European elections next June. [end p2]

      We were elected to secure the defence of the Realm. We have made clear through word and deed, to friend and foe alike, our resolve to keep Britain strong and free. No one doubts now that this country, under this Government, stands shoulder to shoulder with her allies to defend the cause of justice and freedom and to work together for peace. Under Michael Heseltine ‘s vigorous leadership we won the argument against one-sided nuclear disarmament.

      That is the record we put before the British people at the General Election. They are the ultimate jury, and they found in our favour.

      https://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/105454

         4 likes

  22. Foscari says:

    We just heard on the BBC TV breakfast programme the former
    head of Nottinghamshire police telling us that “we don’t want to hear WHITE male politicians talking about the laws concerning
    misogyny.” Well she is in good company, preaching on the BBC. Whom with the exception of very few white males , some of who’s days are probably numbered ,unless they can dance. The
    BBC also don’t want us to hear. Could it be considered racist
    by the ex policewoman, what she said? Well of course not on
    the BBC.

       18 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      How do we start to decolonize science? @0:10

      “Through the black magic, witchcraft you are able to send a lightning bolt to strike someone, Can you explain that scientifically … ” @0:50 – one of the speakers
      “It’s not true” – audience member
      “I need to address you directly (audience member who says witchcraft does not work). When we started this we agreed on certain house rules. By you doing that (arguing) you are disrespecting that sacredness of this space. I would like you please first to apologise …” – another speaker

         6 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      The BBC editing is sly here
      The words are right at the start, so are almost cropped
      She basically says “You don’t want to be listening to them honkies you wanna be listening to FEMALES”

      That might be a way of saying “listen to the complainants”
      but ALL victims matter including males
      otherwise you have started with sexism
      and I suggest violence from one person is not the start
      it might be a reaction to bullying from the other person. Two wrongs don’t make a right

         5 likes

  23. Guest Who says:

    The Dimbleby boys’ efforts will be fun.

       7 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Looks like HMS Nadine his an ‘issue ‘ – always useful for news presenters to comment like that .

      Do you notice how the BBC uses the word ‘defends ‘ when it wants to signal it disagrees with government policy – as in

      ‘Government defends the ending of temporary benefit increase ‘
      Obviously the above line was more negative than than that …..

         16 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      So they use their parents to say they were poor – yet they have not struggled?!

         5 likes

    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      #mymum. Well, MY MUM worked as a cleaner and catering assistant down at the local railway, so I could have a few pennies to pay for food at Uni (she actually did as well).

      My dad, on the otherhand, was CEO of BP and that’s why I was sent to Eton… No, he wasn’t really, and I didn’t, but this is just the usual ‘harder up than thou’ bollox you get from ‘elite’, public school educated idiots, who genuinely do believe they had a ‘tough’ upbringing!

         7 likes

  24. Fedup2 says:

    I caught some of toady today but I think I’ve had enough BBC – even to sample it for this site . After nut nut blubs out his lines today I think I will give it a break ….

    … but elsewhere on toady today it was mentioned almost in passing that the spot gas wholesale price went up 20% yesterday and 15% so far today …… panic buying of gas ?

       8 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Wind will make up the shortfall … oh wait ….

         11 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      “We have to prove beforehand that there is no impact, and we cannot. We have no concrete proof, just theories based on existing knowledge and computer modelling.”

      https://www.power-technology.com/features/tidal-energy-advantages-and-disadvantages/

         5 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, South Sea Bubble, Tulip Mania, iBoom, etc, all it means is that economic stability could be about to end …. for a while, if not ever. The Environmental Movement around COP26 will see to that.

         5 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Is it a gas bubble ?
        I’ve started to frack my garden ….

           3 likes

        • Up2snuff says:

          Very wise. I wish Boris would give the PM boost and use his majority to pass laws to get the UK fracking. I guess that would mean that the PM would be getting the frozen shoulder from Princess Nut Nuts and have to ask Rishi to be allowed to sleep on his sofa at No.11 Downing Street!

             5 likes

  25. StewGreen says:

    This morning R4Today claiming this year in a a bad season for acorns across the UK.
    Sunday whilst cycling down a lane I saw acorns and stopped and started picking them up
    There were 4 small oak trees and I got about 30 acorns
    An hour later I came past a school where there were hazelnuts

    I meant to ask the people here why all these seeds had not already been taken by XR warriors to plant new forests
    … instead they stay in cities blocking roads.

    BTW I also passed fruit trees apples and plums lying unpicked by the hordes who are supposed to be dependent on FOODBANKS
    just as I also pass blackberries and fresh roadkill pheasants.

       27 likes

    • G says:

      Or is it just that the squirrels hoard them and if so, it is a sign of a bad winter to come.

         3 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        Saw a lot of squirrels some running, some splattered on the road.

           1 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Squirrel doesn’t barbi very well but worth currying …

             2 likes

          • G says:

            Tough meat. Best to slo-cook.

               1 likes

            • Up2snuff says:

              Tastes like chicken, so I’m told. In Northumberland you can shoot grey squirrels.

                 2 likes

              • Fedup2 says:

                Grey squirrels can shoot ?

                   2 likes

                • Scroblene says:

                  Quite a common meat in the USA hick areas.

                  Possibly tastes better than hedgehog!

                     0 likes

                  • BigBrotherCorporation says:

                    I’ve never tried hedgehog, but can vouch for squirrel, identical to rabbit in my opinion, same issue with lots of small bones, but the meat is fine. Not a lot of eating on one of them, mind.

                    Once met a guy who claimed he largely subsisted on roadkill (he lived just off the A303). He claimed badger was a real treat, and made a good meal.

                       2 likes

              • Banania says:

                Surely you can shoot them anywhere, as vermin.

                   0 likes

  26. G says:

    Wow! our “Worlds Most Trusted Broadcaster” announced on Toady 0800 news that tension between Taiwan and China is rising. Problem is, they got the facts wrong in their effort to downplay the serious moves toward the next World War. In the 0800 bulletin, they referred to ‘a’ warplane. Yes, a single warplane. In fact the continuing incursion into Taiwan’s air space totalled 93 in just three days. Lurking somewhere to the SE of Taiwan is a combined fleet including three aircraft carriers. One of which is the Queen Elizabeth.

    Not long to wait now. Suggest replace the popcorn with Iodine tablets.

       14 likes

  27. StewGreen says:

    More or Less debunking the BBC yet AGAIN
    “R4 World at One said if you turn those appliances off at the wall instead on standby, that could save you £35/year”

    The prog pointed out 2010 EU law first put maximum standby power at 1W then in 2013 0.5W so cost per year is pennies not pounds.

    The prog failed to mention that earlier US FCC laws had set lower limits years earlier
    so of course the narrative that standby power is huge is a myth.
    —————–

    Why are their discrepancies in countries stated vaccination rates ?
    Sometimes they are giving the percent of population over 16 only, and sometimes you get a smaller number by including the entire population.

    They talked about some countries having a 98% rate in some categories
    They failed to mention, that this would be caused by having an underestimate of population in the first place, say when ou have a lot of illegals so you think you have vaccinated 98 people in a 100 person street, but actually 120 people live there.

       11 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      BTW the prog itself was debunked by a @Caspari
      for it’s claim that before More Or Less was finally commissioned by the BBC, it had been turned down
      “I was the commissioning editor and I assure you neither I nor the controller turned the show down”

         2 likes

  28. StewGreen says:

    9:30am R4 ‘As a white middle class girl I was part of the problem,’

       6 likes

  29. StewGreen says:

    £20 universal credit thing

       22 likes

  30. StewGreen says:

    A pic from that thread
    Large version : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBADMxbVEAQFxAi?format=jpg&name=orig

    FBADMxbVEAQFxAi?format=jpg&name=small

       17 likes

  31. StewGreen says:

    BBC mediacentre are promoting a Radio4 podcast
    The bottom of the page says
    ..”An ITN Production for BBC Radio 4″

       5 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      BBC admits it spends £139,000 a year on buying the Guardian – that’s 1,300 copies a week
      Guardian is the second most popular paper at BBC which ordered 69,212 copies
      It cost the Corporation a total of £139,260 last year although it is free online
      The BBC also ordered a total of 6,407 copies of the Guardian’s sister paper the Observer, which is published on Sundays at a total cost of £18,621
      It ordered 63,222 copies of the Daily Mail – the most popular paper in the country

         8 likes

      • JohnC says:

        I remember a report recently where a journalist who started there a few years ago asked what to write about a story and he was given a copy of the Guardian + told to use that.

           8 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        If you can be, as a Beeboid, bothered to walk down to the Leicester Square area and into the underground station at 11 p.m. at night you can often pick up a free copy of one of the next days newspapers.

           3 likes

  32. StewGreen says:

    Nadine Dorries being a politician
    “I love the BBC. I am not going to war with the BBC”

    Michael Heaver picks different quotes
    .. https://youtu.be/BY2iSrLcObQ

       8 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      YOUR COMPLAINT:

      President Trump’s 100 Days President Biden’s 0 Day 

      Dear Winston Smith in the Records Department of the Ministry of Truth,

      You covered President Trump’s 100 Days and then produced a Beyond 100 Days to hold power to account.

      Why have you not done the same for President Biden to hold power to account?

      ‘Omission is the greatest form of lie.’ 

      ———-

      Thank you again for contacting us,

      BBC Complaints Team
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints

         12 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      “I love the BBC” – does she pay the TV Tax or give it to foodbanks.

         5 likes

  33. SpinningReith says:

    Ronone1 OCTOBER 6, 2021 AT 7:25 AM
    Must get my eyes checked – always thought it was Build Black Better.

    More accurate, and better syntax perhaps?
    Build Back BLACKER?

       9 likes

  34. tomo says:

    ?

       5 likes

  35. MarkyMark says:

    order-order
    – shows embarrassing labour conference
    – shows a conservative egg and spoon race and Gove dancing

       1 likes

  36. digg says:

    The BBC interviewing a posh lady from OFCOM about their newly expanding remit to monitor online websites such as Tic Toc etc.

    Apparently the main offenders You Tube and Facebook etc. are not included in their new remit as they are able to play the “based in Ireland” card.

    The new powers are provided apparently by EU regulations.

    Well not to mention that why Ireland gets a get out of jail card despite Ireland being in the EU I can see only one reason for this power grab and it’s nothing to do with protecting us gullible viewers.

    OFCOM are almost certainly going to need to expand their senior staff as well as the lower order troops on the ground to cope with the additional workload.

    Staff such as:

    Click to access senior-salary-disclosure-november-2019.pdf

    All on very comfortable six figure salaries I see.

    In my opinion this is just another elite power grabbing gravy train operation.

    The BBC of course falling under the OFCOM auspices failed to mention this glaringly obvious consequence.

    And who coughs up? All of us lot of course!

       12 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Senior Salary Disclosure 2019
      We make publicly available the details of all Ofcom colleagues whose full-time equivalent (FTE) base
      salary is £150,000 per annum or more, including those colleagues whose base salary and earnings are
      published in our Annual Report.
      We report actual base salary levels for all members of Ofcom’s Senior Management Team and those
      who are members of Ofcom Boards (Table 1).
      We also publish base salary levels in incremental bands, at £5,000 intervals, for all other colleagues
      whose FTE base pay is above £150,000 per annum or more (Table 2).
      All data is accurate as at 1 November 2019 and displayed in alphabetical order by surname.
      Table 1
      Name Job Title Base Salary
      Luisa Affuso Chief Economist £226,500
      Kevin Bakhurst Group Director, Content Media and Policy £241,000
      Tony Close Director, Content Standards, Licensing and Enforcement £165,000
      Alison Crosland Group Director, Corporate Services £203,000
      Lindsey Fussell Group Director, Consumer and External Relations £226,500
      Mansoor Hanif Chief Technology Officer £226,500
      Philip Marnick Group Director, Spectrum £226,500
      Jonathan Oxley Group Director, Competition £269,500
      Yih-Choung Teh Group Director, Strategy and Research £195,000
      Polly Weitzman General Counsel £260,000
      Sharon White Chief Executive £350,000

         4 likes

      • tarien says:

        Incomprehensible-why are these individuals paid many thousands more than the Prime Minister? Simply staggering the amounts paid out-what makes Sharon White worth £ 350.00 salary per annum. Over two million five hundred thousand pounds.

           3 likes

  37. gb123 says:

    Have you noticed that the petrol panic buying has slowed down since the BBC and others have stopped or demoted the coverage?
    BBC website must have run out of stock photos of queues.
    Next shortages have already been lined up for after the “Conservative” party conference.

       11 likes

  38. Doublethinker says:

    I’ve just watch Brazier on GBN last night, in the show he had a piece about a Nigerian Christian nurse who was dismissed by the NHS for wearing a cross at work. She is suing them for unfair dismissal. In the piece Brazier pointed out that he expected millions more Christians from Africa to migrate to this country over the next few decades. He termed this the Africanisation of Britain !!
    He said that these immigrants felt their faith very strongly and did not take sleights against it lightly. He may well be right and if he is then, given that we have another faith which has a track record of taking offence at any perceived sleight to their all encompassing religion , we are all set up to witness quite a struggle amongst our guest communities. So much for the wisdom of multiculturalism and mass migration.

       22 likes

  39. digg says:

    The BBC interviewing a posh lady from OFCOm about their expanding remit to monitor online websites such as Tic Toc etc.

    Apparently the main players You Tube and Facebook etc. are not included in their new remit as they are able to play the “based in Ireland” card.

    The new powers are provided apparently by EU regulations.

    Well not to mention that why Ireland gets a get out of jail card despite Ireland being in the EU I can see only one reason for this power grab and it’s nothing to do with protecting us gullible viewers.

    Ofcom are almost certainly going to need to expand their senior staff no doubt to cope with the additional workload.

    Staff such as:

    Click to access senior-salary-disclosure-november-2019.pdf

    All on very comfortable around a quarter of a million salaries I see.

    This is just another elite power grabbing gravy train.

    The BBC of course falling under the Ofcom directive failed or declined to mention this glaringly obvious consequence.

    And who coughs up? All of us lot of course!

       4 likes

  40. Foscari says:

    It had to happen. The BBC has just announced the Nobel prize
    for Chemistry. AND then we are told there have only been seven
    women winners for the award for Chemistry.
    I suppose the next thing will be that the Nobel will be
    “cancelled” for not giving enough awards to ethnic scientists,
    ethnic physicist’s etc. Richard Dawkins got into trouble a few
    years ago . And I am sure he would of been “cancelled” today.
    By acknowledging that 25% of the scientific awards have been won by Jews. Which is 0.2%
    of the worlds population. It was a degree higher before the Nazi’s got to work.

       12 likes

  41. StewGreen says:

    Police tweet
    “Driver of the Fiat was using an Italian/international insurance policy, despite being a permanent UK resident for several years. #Reported”

       4 likes

  42. digg says:

    Boris on right now giving a fire and brimstone speech and making absolute sense!

    A huge chasm between the ebullient Boris and the waffling Starmer last week…

    Be interesting to see how the BBC try to bend facts to nit pick take this apart….

       11 likes

    • Eddy Booth says:

      I’m guessing it won’t be hard, people in general are sick of his Winston Churchill wartime style speeches

         7 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        I watched it frankly I am disappointed – disappointed that he didn’t get 3 apples *out and start his juggling act

        * other fruits are available …

           9 likes

  43. StewGreen says:

    BBC spending “24K pa on alcohol”
    remember that excludes BBC Studios etc.
    Champagne is probably for top celebs

    £803,022 for bloody newspapers = £2,200/day
    that 5,181 licences

       7 likes

  44. Fedup2 says:

    Stew – I misread that – I thought it said “fed up spending £24k on alcohol “ then thought how did stew find out …? Those damn wine boxes …

       5 likes

  45. StewGreen says:

    People think ‘feelings are more important than facts’ when it comes to renewables

       4 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      BBC politics couldn’t wait to pick apart the nut nut PM speech ( steam or stream or consciousness ) and had that HMS Dorries on to ‘interview ‘ . Dorries was shambolic – I wonder it she had a hangover – ?
      Enough BBC for a while methinks ….

         3 likes

  46. StewGreen says:

    R4 now Green item *
    next Lenny Henry

    Oh woman got a £838 bill for light bulbs.
    She’d bought her flat off the council but was charged for lighting her landing.

    * The consumer association Which? say that most people are confused about green choices and it is a barrier to helping the UK meet its emission targets.
    They are urging more financial help from government and clearer advice and labelling from companies to make it easier to switch to better tech and purchases..

       1 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      The council had misread the meter and over paid the leccy company by £800
      and BTW councils are not allowed to back bill people, in such a way

      Oh the Lenny Henry item was also an ADVERT

      Different Kind is a collection of enterprises that aim to do good as well as make money.
      The online project has been launched by the former boss of Comic Relief with support from comic and actor Sir Lenny Henry.

         3 likes

  47. dafydd says:

    Well done BBC, exactly the response you would have expected after the PM speech..

    They really were chomping at the bit to rip it apart…

    I for one liked the speech.

    Loath him or like him the alternative in Starmer doesnt bare thinking about.

       17 likes

  48. StewGreen says:

    R4 now : Research reveals most people confused about green choices

    The consumer association Which? say that most people are confused about green choices and it is a barrier to helping the UK meet its emission targets.
    They are urging more financial help from government and clearer advice and labelling from companies to make it easier to switch to better tech and purchases..

    eg frustrated Air source heat-pump man
    House only has 60A fuse , so is heat pump might take it over the limit
    The 100A fuse will cost £300, but typically takes 6 months
    Pump costs £12,600 MORE than a gas boiler,
    So so far he is £12,900 down and still paying gas bills and won’t have lower ones until winter 2022/23

    Which-lady claimed the government isn’t doing enough to help PRIVATE electric companies install electric car chargers for PRIVATE customers.
    AFAIK when you buy the gimmick , I mean car the seller gets you a charging point installed.
    Of course after a while the substation on your street is not big enough ..and that is a problem for the electric companies.

       11 likes

  49. StewGreen says:

    R4 from Sunday coming : Lord Alf Dubbs will be doing the weekly charity appeal for a charity that gathers funds to house refugees with host families.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0010f9x

    #BBCDontDoAdverts ha ha

       10 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Comrade dubs has spent his long long life importing the third world into Blighty – right comrade Alf?

         9 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Alf Dubs was saved by Britain from certain death at the hands of the Nazis.

      Now he campaigns for unlimited muslim immigration into Britain.

      Proof that no good turn goes unpunished.

         17 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Rob – yes I recall he came in on a kinder train …and was one of the comrades of the GLC with comrade livingstone….. he’s getting to be very old …

           4 likes

  50. digg says:

    With delicious irony many activist organisations on climate change are bleating and screaming about the surge in the price of renting a booth at the upcoming Climate Change summit in Glasgow.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/05/cop26-fears-smaller-nations-will-be-priced-out-of-hosting-pavilions

    The same people who scream for policies that must 100% inevitably skyrocket the cost of almost everything for everyone on the planet feel hurt by the hosting Company requesting more money because of the pandemic (and Brexit of Course).

    These people are either short-sighted or raving bonkers or both!

       15 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      What needs to be done is tax the poor that won’t be buying booths
      so you can use that money to SUBSIDISE the rich that do buy booths.
      … That is standard green policy.

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