204 Responses to Weekend 18 June 2022

  1. BRISSLES says:

    Oh, god, oh god oh god. Sorry, just had a bit of a moment there. You know what memories are like .


    • Scroblene says:

      Yes, been there, read the brochure, bought the appliance…

      Replied to your post Brissles, thanks again!

      Fed, do you realise you’ve recreated Ladies Day here?

      Much better than the thing at Arsecot…


      • Fedup2 says:

        Scroblene. I do like to spread a little harmony when I can – which is direct opposition to the divisive BBC …


  2. StewGreen says:

    Local BBC news went to Bridlington
    For “Oh its hot weather”
    They sent their black reporter

    Thread with cherry picked shots of 50% of the closups
    .. https://twitter.com/BiasMonitor/status/1537920555973677057

    Pic5 “I’m used to Jamaican beaches where the sea stays in not like here”
    Note she’s wearing a pink bodywarmer
    That gives the game away. that the idea that Bridlington was super hot, is a narrative



    • Guest Who says:

      Appropriate attire really helps the cost of living crisis.

      Headscarfs during heatwaves mean you do not need aircon draining your battery in your £65k car.


  3. Deborah says:

    Nothing to do with the BBC but an example of how easily I can be taken in by marketing. Perhaps it can be linked to the BBC as it is an indication how constant propaganda can affect us all.

    I was in Waitrose and wanted to buy butter (sorry but I do shop sometimes in Waitrose) and amongst the different makes on offer was one which described itself as ‘plant based butter’. Whatever next, I thought and wondered how it was made. Only a couple of days later I realised it was what we used to call margarine.

    I think I am not easily fooled but briefly taken in by the vegan movement. I hasten to add I didn’t buy the stuff. But it should come as no surprise the constant lecturing by the BBC on climate change and cost of living crisis has on the general population.


    • Scroblene says:

      The rubbish spouted about ‘healthy’ marg was one of the biggest cons ever, Debs!

      It’s full-time butter here now and will be always!


      • moggie63 says:

        I read all sorts about how bad margarine was and went back to butter a few years ago.


        • BRISSLES says:

          Back in the day, in our household, butter was never ‘butter’, my Mum referred to it as “best butter” like it was a treat. More often than not there was always Summer County marg on the table, but it was at a time when we never thought about what went in it, we just got on and ate it, and I’m still here.


          • moggie63 says:

            I don’t recall stopping using margarine because of anything I read, just that my wife and I both realised that we much preferred butter. Texture, taste, use in baking and general cooking, it was simply far superior. And, regardless of what vegetarians or vegans want you to believe, it’s natural.


            • Scroblene says:

              We’ll be digging some ‘Pentland Javelin’ new spuds at around 11.30 today, and to consider that they’d be complemented by some artificial, nasty-smelling oily creation, doesn’t bear thinking about…


  4. Deborah says:

    The Friday night 6pm BBC1 news reported on a survey carried out on 4000 people regarding the cost of living crisis. Apparently 57% had skipped a meal in the last 6 months because they couldn’t afford to eat. At least on this hot day even the BBC didn’t mention heating except for the briefest hint. Are these people skipping meals the other half of the population to the ones stuck at the airport because their flight got cancelled. Have these starving people not even got the wherewithal to have a bowl of own label cornflakes with some milk? Have they still got a phone on contract? What are they spending their money on. It would be interesting to see what people who cannot afford to eat are spending their money on. Results of a survey, BBC? I didn’t believe a word of it.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Home Bargains Stores can be good resource against ‘the-cost-of-living-crisis’, Deborah, as some spreadable butters can be found at rather less than mainstream supermarkets charge. If you have a HB store near to you that is. If you are of a certain age, Iceland now offer a 10% Discount on Tuesdays to over 65’s. Show bus pass, driving licence or birth certificate, etc., at till to claim. At one store I visited, OAPs have wised up quickly to this and were in there ‘mob-handed’ as the Police used to say.


  5. BRISSLES says:

    I agree Deborah. Egg and bacon is a cheap meal. A tin of soup is a cheap meal. Beans on toast is a cheap meal. We’ve experienced warm-ish weather for weeks now, so I doubt there have been many where the heating has been full on all day. To be honest, do people still have 3 full meals a day anyway ?
    As for pensioners – I am one, I can survive quite happily on one meal, as my appetite is nothing like it was when I was younger.
    Equally the cost of living crisis has clearly not affected those huge queues at the airports.

    Asking a friend who is a beauty therapist whether her business has been affected, and she says not, if anything she’s busier than ever, because of all the events now taking place, and holidays abroad, so she’s doing a roaring trade in manicures and facials.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Brissles, my dear old thing (well, it is the cricket season although football still likes to nose in for some attention & spoil summer), there are lots of ways to eat at low cost. What intrigues me is that the BBC have ‘bigged up’ ‘the-cost-of-living-crisis’ but prior to that for years one of their pet crises was ‘the-obesity-crisis’. One crisis is obviously the cure for another crisis but the BBC probably haven’t noticed as Aunty BBC has rather serious dementia and memory loss now.


  6. JohnC says:

    I see the ‘War In Ukraine’ page of the BBC news site does not contain anything about the actual war today. All the articles are anti-Russian propaganda.

    That’s not a good sign – the BBC only report the bad news when they can use the misery of civilians in some article full of empathy so they are hiding what is happening. I suspect it will be very quiet then suddenly a catastrophe in Severodonetsk will be announced, Russia will be denounced as monsters then the topic will quickly move on.

    I am finding it very interesting to learn the progress of the war from unbiased internet sources then compare it with the BBC. It’s absolutely staggering just how little information and how much propaganda their articles are full of. It seems their first duty is not to provide the truth at all : it’s to make us believe what they want us to believe. Of course I knew this already – but it’s good to see it confirmed so unambiguously.

    One thing which did strike me was certain things the commentator says ‘The MSM are not reporting’. Now how on Earth do they all get the same memo on what and what not to report ?. I smell something very fishy going on.


    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      Almost from day one, this ‘Russian Invasion of Ukraine’ has seemed a bit iffy to me too JohnC.

      I have to admit I have no military experience, and have never been embroiled in a war, personally, but I’ve followed a fair number of wars in the news, and the way this one is being reported, it just seems… well…

      “Attention! Your attention, please! A newsflash has this moment arrived from the Malabar front. Our forces in South India have won a glorious victory. I am authorized to say that the action we are now reporting may well bring the war within measurable distance of its end. ” – Orwell, 1984


      • JohnC says:

        I’m ex UK-forces (RAF) and this kind of thing is interesting to me as I can see the kind of thing I might have expected to see if anything kicked off during my stint.

        I remember the wars in the middle East in Syria (‘the Arab Spring’) and with ISIS : we got lots of reports about the rebels as the BBC pushed the PR for the Obama government saving the world right up until Russia joined in . Then it went sour and Trump got elected and the BBC basically didn’t care about it any more.

        Then Trump pulled the USA out (as he said he would) and Russia basically annihilated everyone without a peep from the BBC.

        The thing is, there were lots of videos from gopro’s and the like online showing what was going on. Things like barrel bombs being dropped in civilian areas and the whole rebel movement being wiped out. And the BBC didn’t care one bit because it was suddenly off-agenda.

        Now I look for similar videos from Ukraine and there only a very few – all showing Ukraine winning. I read somewhere that youtube blocks any by Russians showing Ukraine losing – but it’s bigger than that. I can’t find any anywhere and it all stinks.


        • Thoughtful says:

          It’s a little like the reporting on the Rohingyas and the Uighurs where one sided reporting deliberately obscures the truth such as this:


          Just an ounce of research will show the media is lying by omission as the Uighurs which are a minority Muslim sect, and the same state reaction is not visited on the majority Muslims so what’s the difference?

          In the case of the Russian attack on Europe (yes it is not an attack on Ukraine, it’s Europe as a whole being attacked). Russian foreign policy has been formed by a man known in Russia as “the Thinker” sometimes in the West as Putins Rasputin Alexandr Dugin.

          He in turn has his strategy formed by that of Catherine the Great who seized the Crimean peninsula from the Ottoman Empire and sparked the Crimean war.

          Putins Strategy appears to be relatively simple, and the cretins in the EU know what he’s doing but are so paralysed by liberal stupidity they have absolutely no solution for it.

          In the first instance Russia starves Africa and North Africa then encourages millions to migrate to Europe which is paralysed by leftist incompetence and will simply allow untold millions into the continent.
          Once enough migrants are in Europe and it has begun to collapse Russia cuts the gas and oil and Europe freezes and grinds to a halt – millions die and the hopeless liberals are forced to either surrender or allow millions more to die.

          Putin takes the whole of Europe without needing to fire a shot. There is plenty of evidence of Russia trialing this strategy prior to implementation in cahoots with China when both have banned the export of fertiliser and China has been buying the worlds wheat supplies and begun to become more militarily aggressive.

          Russia has tried forcing migrants into the EU via Belarus into Poland who did do the right thing with rolls of barbed wire and soldiers armed with live rounds. They are however being attacked by the liberal German heads of the EU who don’t like anything which isn’t liberal lunacy.

          So there you have it and come next Spring there might not even be an EU to speak of.


          • JohnC says:

            I’ve noticed that the BBC only ever tells us of the bad things people do to Muslims – whether it be Israel, Russia, Myanmar, India or even us Brits. They NEVER address the reasons why. Their narrative starts from when the Muslim is wronged.

            But in EVERY single case I have investigated, the action against the Muslims has been in response to what the Muslim’s did first. But the BBC never go near that. They are always ‘innocent victims’ who may have protested a little bit – when the truth is they performed acts of terrorism. The root cause is invariably that the Muslims want to drive everyone else out so they make some kind of Muslim controlled area then rule it by their stone-age laws.

            It’s hypocrisy of the very highest possible level and the BBC are absolutely guilty of it. Somehow their ideological agenda makes them think these gargantuan lies-by-omission are justified.

            Meanwhile they are forcing everyone else down the path to the ruination of Western society as we know it. As you say, Russia and China together have the means to destroy Europe and possibly the USA without firing a shot. That’s the gift of the Left. Everything they control they eventually destroy.


            • Thoughtful says:

              He who pays the piper calls the tune and the Saudis Qataris Kuwatis Kazakhstanis etc etc are very wealthy and prepared to use that money to further their religion.
              They are the second largest funder of UK universities after the UK government and that funding comes with strings attached. They also pay our poorly paid political class the salaries we refuse to pay them, and then people are surprised and bewildered as to why the country is being Islamised, but when its explained to them they would have to pay politicans properly in order to stop it, they take the pig headed view that they do not want to pay politicians, and will put up with countries like Saudi doing that for them and beggar the consequences.

              As for the Left in the USA Who exactly is running the USA at the moment? The press secretary let it slip the other day ‘WE’ won’t allow Joe Biden to go to Kiev. Who is ‘WE’ ? and how is this ‘WE’ in authority over the man who is supposed to be the commander in chief.

              Interestingly at the time that the Roman Empire was collapsing and Rome was burning the Senate was disussing whether angels were male or female in a chilling reflection of todays pointless debate about what a woman is.


          • Up2snuff says:

            Thoughtful, you need to do some research on the ‘EU mindset’ and the visits to Ukraine by Cathy Ashton, especially in the period 2009-2014.


        • Guest Who says:


          Just read he has got a propane back up on the beach front property for when Kerry Lears in.

          Going to get BBC Trending and Saz to confirm.



        • tomo says:

          The Duran usually adds context to BBC reporting and turns up quite a bit that the goons at Broadcasting House choose to omit.


    • digg says:

      The Guardian and the Independent are having go at Boris for cancelling a trip to the “Norf” so he could go and have a chat with Zelensky….

      Boris would have to walk on water to get a good word from the BBC, Guardian or Independent.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:


        Boris is a liar and a bluffer. He offered Ukraine 155mm self-propelled artillery, only to be told that all our stuff is mothballed and unserviceable. So now we have bought some obsolete 155s from Belgium to send to Ukraine, to keep Boris’s “promise”. Pathetic. I recommend the Turbulent Times website to keep abreast of the war in Ukraine and the blonde oaf’s many lies.


    • digg says:

      It is bloody obvious by looking at the maps of Russian advances that Russia is carefully and relentlessly moving to control all of the areas it needs to control. And is doing so with the least amount of Russian casualties. Zelensky is dependant on European tacit support but the long game is, he will lose. The Russians will not stop until this leak in their border and threat to their country is shut.

      If the west try to prevent this we will be at war with Russia. Russia has a strong bear in charge and we have numpties. So we as in every conflict in recent history without a strong leader prepared to take, risks will lose. Putin is clever enough to know this.

      Of course our mouthy press personnel will never be pushed into the front line so can be as shouty as they like without risk to themselves,

      The entire blame for this rests at the door of the EU and NATO who are pushing to expand their reach and have finally met an adversary prepared to put his actions where his mouth is,


  7. taffman says:

    “Migrants: Some due for removal from the UK could be electronically tagged”

    More huff and bluster by a feeble government pretending to do something and trying to cover their backsides. Operative word “Could”. The illegals will snip them off and disappear into the night.
    What then ? We will soon be a third world nation


  8. theisland says:

    For Britain’s candidate in Tiverton and Honiton was ‘banned’ from the hustings. Will any news channel report this?

    He is the only candidate worth voting for in this by-election.
    For Britain have a perfectly reasonable national manifesto.

    The ‘left’, however, are determined that the LibDems should win this seat as part of the big collaborative agenda.


  9. Guest Who says:

    There is irony.

    And there is BBC #prasnews irony.


    BBC Radio 4

    She’s disabled, gay and northern. But, she insists, she’s not a great example of any of these communities, and she’s tired of being asked to speak on their behalf.

    Could be turned into a tired series.


  10. AsISeeIt says:

    Mamie State, weird smiles, Jubilee mixing and BBC presenters, why oh why can’t you just keep it to yourselves edition

    The French interior ministry warned people to be extremely careful and not expose themselves to the weather. (BBC)

    We know we’ve come to pretty pass when a few days of warm sunny weather is a bad thing.

    Europe heatwave: Outdoor events banned in parts of France (BBC)

    That’s in one specific locality in the south of France – but it makes UK headlines of course. How sinisterly reminiscent of – you know what – does this sound: “Everyone now faces a health risk”, local official Fabienne Buccio told France Bleu radio… officials said public events… will be prohibited from Friday… “until the end of the heat wave”. Indoor events at venues without air-conditioning are also banned.

    I’d advise, during spells of hot weather, not setting your hair on fire.

    The Daily Telegraph, in their over-50s fashion feature, advises: undoing an extra button

    The Guardian has discovered a new frontpage pin up girl: Ukraine’s first lady. Olena Zelenska – and in that oh-so very lefty press tendency she: speaks out. What does she say? ‘On the first day of war, I had this weird smile on my face all day. I was trying not to show the children panic’

    World leaders are getting stupider – frets Patrick Cockburn in the left-leaning ‘i’ newspaper – he places dunce caps on Putin, Johnson, Xi and Biden – It’s quite sometime since ol’ Joe Biden was in the school room but I do reckon back in his day standing in the corner with a pointy hat was still a thing.

    Our media does seem to prefer a loser…

    ‘We’re on the precipice of losing our democracy’ Hillary Clinton has lunch with the FT – what’s for lunch, sour grapes?

    Gordon Brown ‘This is the beginning of the end for Boris’ (Telegraph Magazine)

    You have to smile at the sheer hubris (if that’s a grammatically sound construction? – not that such concerns tend to hold one back) of these down and outs beloved of our centre-left media establishment.

    The left-leaning ‘i’ pundits – taken together – appear to admit that the left is caught in something of a cleft stick: Katy Balls The PM’s best asset is Starmer – of course there is ironic direct straight-faced and pure projection with a hefty dollop of inversion here: Boris Johnson is Labour’s greatest asset… There should be no disappointment in the opposition parties that Boris Johnson is still leader of the Conservative Party and prime minister. (Sean O’Grady Independent)

    The Left require a real true call to arms – to the barricades, comrades! – Ian Dunt (‘i’) sums up with a putative new slogan battle cry: Stop blaming the left. This is a Tory mess.

    You do have to laugh – so one reaches for the Daily Star: Eurovision win for UK they suggest – not that continentals will ever reckon our songs the best – it’s just that we’ve volunteered (care of our BBC) to pay up to host the bloody freak show.

    While our vaguely centre right-leaning titles – Times, Telegraph and Mail each relish Royal photos as staple frontpage grist to their mill – the Daily Mail excels indulging in a monarchic two-for, going to the races with a Kate plus Princess Di comparison in similar polka dot frocks: Ascot yesterday …and Ascot in 1988

    God bless Her Maj and all that and long may she reign – if only to stimy that dafty green Prince of PC Wails – but the Mail today really do lard it on with a right royal trowel: Major new series starts today William at 40 The most intimate portrait ever

    And: By Royal doctor’s appointment. We are not amused. Queen’s Jubilee sparks 43% rise in Covid cases (Daily Star) – says who?

    Well, the coronaphic, republican ‘i’ of course: Covid cases jump 43% in the UK to 1.4 million due to Omicron sub-variants BA.4 and BA.5 Infections have been gradually rising after reaching a low in the middle of May… so much of the rise has been put down to street parties and other events held across the country to mark the occasion. – Bah humbug! This would never happen under President Tony Blair.

    And they probably read it here first: BBC: Covid infections up after Platinum Jubilee celebrations By Michelle Roberts, Digital health editor… Experts say – blah-dee-blah

    The Office for National Statistics (ONS), which compiles the data, says it is too early to say if this is the start of another wave… the latest data covers some of that Jubilee mixing. The previous week’s data had shown the beginnings of a possible rise. – that’ll be people going door to door organising the street parties?

    The data is collated by testing thousands of people from UK households – whether they have symptoms or not – to estimate how much virus is around. – really? No one tested Mr AsISeeIt before, during or shortly after his street party Jubilee mixing – where he donned his Union Jack underpants à la Tim Brooke-Taylor the late-lamented Goodie who died April 2020 aged 79 apparently of the new-found medical construction – complications from COVID-19 (Thank you, Wiki)

    In tribute to Brooke-Taylor, the flag of his alma mater, Pembroke College, Cambridge, was flown at half-mast the following day – and his patriotic red, white and blue undercrackers – we wonder what happened to them? Perhaps they’ll turn up on Ebay?

    I say all this in well-meaning jest – having been very much a fan of dear old Tim.

    File these under – BBC presenters, why can’t you just keep it to yourself: What Nick Grimshaw did next (‘i’); Dan Walker Fame, TV and my big reveal (Times); Emma Barnet I’ve shared my endometriosis pain. (‘i’)


    • Up2snuff says:

      AISI, I note that is why we cannot track whether there actually is an increase in Covid infections or whether they are just summer colds and possibly summer influenza (as everyone has lost their immunity to same) because the ONS in combination with the BBC do not allow us to check our local area anymore. I wonder when that will be introduced?

      Apart from the common cold, it is actually quite rare for viruses to survive hot, dry, weather my inner Dr Snuffy tells me.

      If the 2024 General Election, due to be held no later than December 2024 is brought forward as has been suggested to June 2024, I find myself wondering if a summer Covid outbreak could turn it into an all postal vote affair, shades of USA 2020?


  11. Guest Who says:

    BBC News (London, Apparently)

    What’s your interior style?

    Londoners are turning their homes into colourful, Instagrammable and maximalist destinations.

    Why? The growing need for aesthetically pleasing spaces that look good on the grid has given home designers a boom in business.

    (via BBC London)

    The rest of the country not pretentious twats with easy access to cubicle garden ‘reporters’?

    Looking good on the grid a cost of living crisis thing, or more a queuing at the airport thing?


  12. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Give EVERYBODY in the UK a 10 percent rise, the amount the railwaymen want, and all will be satisfied.
    Of course there will be lots of effects of this, inflation is one as everything will go up in price but these things happen when pay goes up.
    The end result is that everyone will be no better off.
    If the railway people think only they deserve this 10 percent rise and all others should be content with 3 percent (like pensioners) then that would show them as greedy and selfish.
    So then, 10 percent for all or 10 percent only for railway people.
    We’re all in this together (I read somewhere)


  13. Jeff says:

    There really are only two programmes that I ever watch on the BBC these days, Dad’s Army (it’s on tonight) and Gardeners’ World.

    Yesterday evening GW was filming the annual Gardeners’ World Live event. It’s essentially a series of show gardens and the regular presenters wander about interviewing the designers and passing comment. So far so good…

    One of GWs regular presenters, Frances Tophill, had built something for the show and they were all drooling over it. My God, what a bleedin’ eyesore.

    She constructed a bloody great, two story shed, mainly made with corrugated iron, knocked up a dilapidated greenhouse, stuck up some rusty iron girders, sunk a load of old sinks into the ground and filled a wall with twigs and called it a “bug hotel”…oh and planted the area with wild flowers…formerly known as “weeds”…It reminded me of the bombsite next to my gran’s house when I was a lad. “Keep out of there” my gran would warn me, “It ain’t safe.”

    They were all enthusiastic for this “design”. There seemed to be a competition as to who could come out with the most claptrap. Monty was particularly effusive. “I’d have come just to see Frances’s garden” he drooled. “It’s superb, it’s stunning.” His co-host concurred. “What I really love is that you really see Francis in that garden.” I burst out laughing because as all this pretentious prattle was being lavished on the “garden”, the camera was circling the area. Yes, there was the corrugated shed. Here were the rusty girders. Look at all those weeds. Honestly, if you inherited a garden in that condition the first thing you would do is attack it with a pick axe.

    The next big show is at Hampton Court in a few weeks. I’m thinking I’ve still got enough time to dig up a load of stinging nettles, bindweed and dock, go down to the local scrap metal yard and get some rusting railings and maybe find an old urinal from a disused Gents.

    Gold medal…


    • AsISeeIt says:

      Nice one, Jeff

      It was the Bible that first warned us of those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

      ‘The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth.’ George Orwell 1984


    • BRISSLES says:

      Geoff a few years ago I went to the RHS Wisley gardens in Surrey. All very nice, but I burst out laughing when I saw, for sale small plants in pots for just under £5. They were weeds that I pull up regularly from my gravel garden – they smell like cats pee, and they’re thugs that just spread if left. Perhaps I’ve missed a trick and should have a stall flogging them to unsuspecting passers by. The biggest con I’ve seen in gardening.


  14. StewGreen says:

    11:05 R4 politics show Lab v Tory on immigration
    Thepresenter thinks he has got a gotcha against the Tories
    Cos Guardianland like to gaslight and say there is no legal way to get asylum in the UK
    “So if migrants are not on the Ukrainian or Afghan asylum schemes how can seek asylum in the UK ?”
    Edward Leigh replies Of course there are legal way “185,000 people other people have come in legally over the last few years”

    He also point out that “Once migrants get half way across the channel they know that effectively they will NEVER be deported”


  15. StewGreen says:

    As I mentioned, BBC local news went to Bridlington
    Seemingly a disproportionate amount of the random punters in the closeups are black
    You can see this when the camera pulls back and shows main crowds which are almost entirely white

    Here’s a 10 tweet thread with screenshots of that item
    and then shots of the disproportionality as it continues in the trailers and channel idents all night.
    Repeated trailer for Romesh and Drag Race dominate
    .. https://twitter.com/BiasMonitor/status/1537920555973677057


    • Guest Who says:

      To be fair, most here today are in waxed coats and gilets.

      But white.

      It’s a Shires thing.

      And really bad local democracy reporting.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:


      I belatedly got round to watching a drama about Mr Darwin, the canoe (actually a kayak) man from Seaton Carew.

      In the drama, he eventually gives himself up in a police station in London. The desk sarge is a big black unit. But later on, there was a documentary about the story, which had an interview with the sarge, who in reality was a white man. Why make him black for the drama? We are being written out of our own history.

      This was on ITV, not BBC, but in reality they are all part of the same left wing London elite which hates the white British and wishes we were all dead. Or at the very least, black.


      • StewGreen says:

        Rob, personally I wouldn’t be offended that in a drama a MINOR real life male character is replaced by a female
        So in a London drama if a minor real life WHITE character is replaced by a Black one it’s not a super super disproportionate
        … as long as it happens the other way around proportionately.


        • Rob in Cheshire says:


          It never does happen the other way round does it? I am used to seeing dramas where the police chief is always black and usually a woman, but to take a white man and make him black takes the biscuit. I wonder how the copper felt when he saw who was portraying him? It’s a good job white people don’t have feelings.


  16. StewGreen says:

    R4 FooC 11:38am “George Buh said that Ruh would no longer be invading part of Europe, and cut the defence spending on it by a quarter
    We now know he got it wrong”

    FFS The Ukrainian invasion is not the only Invasion of Europe by Russia
    1992 and 2008 Russia invaded two different parts of Georgia and In February and March 2014 the Crimea and Eastern Ukraine.

    She has now gone onto mention the Georgia invasions.
    We consider the part of Russia on the west of the Urals to be Europe, so I’d count the Georgian land over the border as Europe too
    But I guess it is a transition area between Europe and Asia.

    Item Now protecting peat bogs to STOP Climate Change ..that’s about a bog in Congo


  17. tomo says:

    You can see why Biden’s crew hate Tucker 🙂


  18. brexiteerkent says:

    So depressed and angry ..

    Every week when I get the paper on Saturday morning I look at the upcoming TV to see what I want to record.

    The BBC has so many depressing shows in prime time this week. Lowlights include : Back in time for Birmingham “A series of four episodes showing the Sharma family travel back in time to show south Asian history in Birmingham and the way they ‘helped shape modern Birmingham ” it’s every night of the week 8pm prime time BBC2.

    Then there is part one of two ” Lenny Henry’s Caribbean Britain” 9pm BBC2 wednesday which is apparently about ” the remarkable impact of Caribbean immigrants who changed the country for the better ”


    Sorry to shout. So sad frustrated and angry.

    Yes, life might be a lot better than it used to be for these incomers as they become the majority In ever more places, but it certainly isn’t for the indigenous people.

    Will we see the BBC produce a show along the lines of ” white flight, the indigenous people of Britain move out of the cities to try to find somewhere safe to live a quiet life away from the stabbings and gang rapes amongst their own kind as more and more places turn into foreign enclaves, but the native people of the country are running out of places to move to ” it isn’t just lefties and immigrants who pay the licence fee so where are our programmes?


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      I wonder if Lenny Henry would ever admit that there have been any problems with mass Caribbean immigration into the UK?

      Alongside all the oft-praised nurses and London Transport workers, plus sports and pop stars, of Caribbean origin, whose over-all contribution may be positive, there have been some downsides: increased “cultural” drug dealing of ganja, etc.; gangs and knifing (especially in London) and muggings; the rioting in 1981, 1985, 2011 and at other times; the undermining of the homogeneity of the UK and promotion of anti-White racism by Lammy, Abbott and others; the coarsening of popular culture by gangster rap and other musical styles; etc, etc.


      • BRISSLES says:

        All the original migrants from the Caribbean enthusiastically took on the jobs in nursing, London Transport, etc. but try flogging that ethic to their grandchildren and great grandchildren today. We all know what they want, and its certainly not pushing a broom on London Underground or studying to get out of the ghetto. No, its being a rapper, dj, drug dealer, anything that’s easy money so nothing mental or too much physical to get it.


  19. StewGreen says:

    Would your group get a space in the local BBC news to plug their meeting ?

    12pm local radio news “Extinction Rebellion are having a meeting today at … to discussion the importance of protecting peaceful protest rights
    You can go along at 2pm to … on .. road ..in Lincoln”

    .. FFS Many XR protests are NOT peaceful cos they stop you going about your daily business by blocking your way
    or cause physical damage to your car tyres.

    (BTW Next item: pride month story about Mabelthorpe )

    I check the local XR Twitter accounts ..they haven’t bothered to promote their event there.
    However their website does list today’s event
    But the description is different to the radio news one

    • Why we’re currently in Big Trouble with the climate
    • Why voting, marching and signing petitions won’t help
    • Why just 3.5% of us working together in 2022 could turn things around

    All around the UK, local people are getting organised.


    • Guest Who says:

      Media and activists in cahoots?

      Here is Alistair Campbell liking a post about here from Sopes’ main ‘source’ in the USA, whilst Vaz and range do not dare ‘report’ on their guy there.

      Seems the media have Sleepy and Heels Up backs big time, globalistically.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Good old Mad Al Campbell. How’s that Iraq invasion working out for you, you blood soaked lunatic? No chance of that “breaking international law” was there?

        I wish he’d go back on the booze, he made more sense then.


      • StewGreen says:

        If Tory Britain is such a nasty place
        then why do the illegals pay £30K each to the smugglers to come in
        ..rather than stay in SAFE France

        Earlier a GBnews viewer texted he worked with some Asylum seekers who collected every benefit they could and sent all the money abroad whilst running up a mountain of unpaid rent and debt here.

        My guess is the smugglers get paid first cos they have the families hostage.


        • tomo says:


          – do we NOT hear / read abso-loo-telly anything about the provenance / antics of the actual people smugglers?

          No BBC intrepid undercovers …

          250 “rescued” yesterday – according to the 4pm R4 news.


      • MarkyMark says:

        Theresa May asked why Asia Bibi wasn’t offered asylum in UK
        Wed 08 May 2019by Cara Bentley
        An MP has asked the Prime Minister why Asia Bibi has settled in Canada this week and not the UK.


  20. Guest Who says:

    BBC stirring as only it can, whilst pretending it isn’t.

    Likely with help.


    • tomo says:

      “blamed” for his private comments?

      – what I have to assume they are trying to say is “challenged over his pontificating” – sheesh …


      • Guest Who says:


        If this was as described, the bbc are flat out saying folk need to police their private thinking.


    • Doublethinker says:

      Like father like son. According to the Telegraph William has written to the widow of the policeman who was at the US Capitol on Jan 6 th and next day died of a heart attack. William writes that the policeman died defending democracy . The telegraph claims that he was assaulted which led to his death. Neither of these statements is actually true but form an important part of the anti Trump narrative.
      William and his father are becoming ever more political and un afraid to show their increasing Wokist tendencies. Rather like that pillock Welby. What they don’t seem to understand , just like Welby doesn’t understand , is that most of us who support the monarchy , or are still nominally C if E, loath Wokism and all its works. If it comes to a choice between a monarch who is woke and a republic , then I’m afraid, it’s the republic for me.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Yes, the Telegraph repeats the Big Lie that this policemen was pepper sprayed and assaulted with a fire extinguisher. These claims have been proven not to be true, so there is no excuse for the Telegraph to repeat them. The policeman died the day after, of a heart attack. Very sad, but nothing whatsoever to do with Donald Trump. OR Prince William.


  21. Guest Who says:

    Brexit, clearly.

    Bet the Islamabad airport scenes are horrifying.

    HRW on standby for incoming to visit the replies at W1A?


  22. BRISSLES says:

    Don’t have a family then if you can’t afford them. Sadly in 3rd world countries you might as well be p……..g in the wind in promoting family planning. Bit like here really.


  23. StewGreen says:

    13:32pm Any Questions from Wales Holyhead where there’s a plan to rebuild a nuclear power plant
    The public questioner is clearly an anti-nuclear activist
    who makes his question a lecture : which is a false gaslighting view of the world
    eg saying “renewables are cheaper” (they are a million miles away from cheaper reliable power .. there’s no mining tax for a start)
    … The guys supporters whoop and holla when he’s finished

    Ans 1 from Plaid Cymru ..gaslighting again “they talk of nuclear but nothing ever happens”
    FFS Hinkley C is Europe’s largest construction site and more nuclear are well on with planning.

    Ans2 from a pro green , pro nuclear person (Tory MP)


    • StewGreen says:

      After only 2 answers we are back to the questioner
      ..How is that fair ?

      Now Ans 3: from Labour “smelly Tories ..etc.”

      Ans4 : Claire Fox .: sensible answer of course
      Got boos
      She mentions the Rolls Royce mini-reactor that might coming to Snowdonia
      She is having to shout as if some crowd is agin her
      Sounds like 6 people boo against her at the end.

      Next back to Paid panelist saying there should be a mix
      Gets applause.


      • tomo says:

        Greens are too often braying imbeciles in public meetings – seen it too many times – trying and often succeeding in intimidating / bullying the supposed moderators – they usually can’t just ask a question and accept the reply.


  24. Guest Who says:


    It is now endemic at The BBC.

    Some may be a lazy mistake.

    Some career echo chamber sucking up.

    But most is flat out top down propaganda.

    When the most senior political editor sits at his PC and passes on what he read as news, and all is wrong, and no consequence, all is over.


  25. G.W.F. says:

    Watergate 50 years ago very important. America united against corruption.
    Jan 6th inquiry today also very important to nail the baddies.



    • tomo says:

      BBC trying to help their mates in the DNC with a ludicrous dose of false equivalence.

      I don’t think the BBC reporter have actually sat through any of the hearings and watched and listened – they merely whip up stuff as ordered by Jaime Harrison or BHO’s minions…

      I bet the BBC aren’t keen to go back a couple more decades and show us what the actual Soviet archives showed us about Joe McCarthy’s targets


  26. tomo says:


    German electric power grid supplier RWE – atm – ca. 75% lignite

    You might imagine that’d be remarked on the BBC ?


  27. Thoughtful says:

    Just to bring even more joy to everyones Saturday evening Russia’s largest gas field has caught fire – what a great excuse not to supply Europe with gas – a spectacular fire which no one can deny is happening.



    In other news the US largest Pork processing facility Smithfield Foods inc owned by China, is closing all its US operations citing the high cost of doing business.

    This is of course an excuse and part of the war on food which China and Russia are waging on the West.

    There simply isn’t the capacity in the US to make up for Smithfield pulling out, and farmers cannot keep fully grown hogs on their farms and will be forced to sell them cheap, and guess whose going to be there waiting to buy them?
    Yep the Chinese who will ship them back to China to make up the shortfall caused by desease in their own herds.

    In the US and Canada the price of pork products is going to skyrocket, unless of course you are able to butcher and store / share a whole pig which has been slaughtered.


  28. tomo says:

    As sure as night follows day…


    • tomo says:

      Trump pushes Joe off bicycle

      Ha… Twitter won’t show you the video off Twitter …


  29. StewGreen says:

    Neil Oliver show talking sense as usual
    Now he is about to start a global warming debate segment
    .. “with opposite sides”

    Lembit Opik vs Crazy John Grant from Sheffield Poly


  30. tomo says:


    • MarkyMark says:

      Lineker has been a part of the Walkers brand for 25 years, and in October signed a contract extending his services until 2023. As part of the contract, the ex-footballer, 60, bagged a monstrous £1.2million.19 May 2021


  31. Guest Who says:

    Normally such a thing would be covered, if true, by impartial media.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Mark Zuckerberg Called People Who Handed Over Their Data “Dumb F****”
      He might as well have predicted Facebook’s downfall

      By Laura Raphael
      20 Mar 2018


    • Guest Who says:

      Class attracts class.


      • Guest Who says:

        Wes off limits in interviews with Labour no doubt.


      • BRISSLES says:

        There’s something weird about Streeting when he’s being interviewed. He rarely blinks and stares into the camera with no emotion.


      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        I’m really fed up with that fat, albino blob in no. 10 and his pathetic cronies, so I was considering not voting at the next GE… having seen that photo though, I’ve just changed my mind again.


        • G says:

          BBC, No, No, No. You’d be better ‘spoiling the ballot’ – that fact will be statistically recorded, in effect as a voter unhappy with the overall offerings of the candidates/manifesto’s and all the rest of the nonsense on offer. Imagine ‘albino’ waking up the following morning to find the majority spoilt the ballot and the election was therefore numerically invalid? That would force a perhaps welcome, ‘Back to the drawing board’ result.
          Why anyone votes right now is incomprehensible to me. It is the perfect application of the, “Turkeys voting for Christmas” association. I cannot vote for my own demise.
          I will no longer vote to have my appointments with the NHS moved even further out over the current 2 year wait primarily to accommodate illegal and or foreign imports.


  32. Northern Voter says:

    Mrs Voter was listening to Classic FM this morning, Aled Jones at the mike. He said that today was the anniversary of King John signing the Magna Carta, he said that it was to ensure that Crown and Government followed the rules, a sarky little cough after that. Must be the Bias from the beeb rubbing off.


  33. Jack in the Green says:

    Good to see the site is still going strong.


  34. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – funny, no mention of Lord Geidt …

    I did not listen to the whole programme only the first 90 minutes. I don’t know whether the Mens Doubles pairing of Nick in Leeds and JustRemainIn in London mentioned the ex-Ethics Adviser but the FT did. As far as I can see they omitted to state clearly why he resigned. All left spectacularly vague so that Boris Johnson can continually be smeared as a rule breaker and lawless.

    I wonder if the MSM might end up overdoing this and creating some considerable sympathy for the PM as an ‘underdog’? I would love the irony of two By-election wins for the Conservatives next week.


  35. Guest Who says:

    Kev locking in another season at W1A.


    • Guest Who says:

      Kev is just one guest why the bbc is so adored.*

      *Source: BBC


  36. Guest Who says:

    More crucially, that comb has been specifically designed to oppress that daft cracker at left.

    Bet he has to fly for hours to get his barnet shaped.


    • Scroblene says:

      I thought it one of those bits of kit you use to slice onions!

      If anyone has the time to waste to make up a stupid word like cisheteropatriarchal, he ought to get out more and try and get a real job which benefits the nation…


  37. Guest Who says:

    Clearly, Vile needs to weigh in now.



    • StewGreen says:

      tweet has been deleted


      • StewGreen says:

        It was a response tweet to a guy defending Biden
        after she mocked him in an earlier tweet
        She’s deleted that tweet as well

        It had said

        Literally no one is “outraged” over the fact that he fell.
        The entire world is making fun of him
        or feels sorry for him because he’s clearly not well.
        No one is “outraged” LOL

        and was in response to

        The faux outrage over this Biden bicycle fall is so stupid.
        His shoe got caught in the toe clips.
        Happens to cyclists all across the country every goddamn day.
        Toe clips are a bad idea for this very reason.
        For a leisurely spin he should be on flat pedals.


  38. StewGreen says:

    Our local newspaper is now like most run from a copyNpaste operation 100 miles away
    with lots of semi-automated articles instead of local journos

    In a list of stories a prominent one is about a dramatic police shooting
    An inch down there is a text advert
    “3 bedroom semi-detached house for sale £127K”

    Now why would a house be so cheap ?
    Locals would know it’s the rough peoples road in the middle of a council estate, so they would NOT be keen to move there.

    My Polish friend was telling me how they were robbed by the neighbours in her old street and that street name was my first guess .. And I was right.
    The street with the shooting on is two street over.

    The Polish people moved to another street which again a local would not be keen to move to.
    So actually her family arrived and have so far lived in 3 areas where locals would not choose to live.
    I guess estate estate agents are keen on foreign customers cos they can sell such dodgy houses to them


  39. pugnazious says:

    Cold climate is unusual…such as the period we are in now…..says the NOAA…

    ‘Preliminary results from a Smithsonian Institution project led by Scott Wing and Paul Huber, showing Earth’s average surface temperature over the past 500 million years. For most of the time, global temperatures appear to have been too warm (red portions of line) for persistent polar ice caps. The most recent 50 million years are an exception. Image adapted from Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History.

    Modern human civilization, with its permanent agriculture and settlements, has developed over just the past 10,000 years or so. The period has generally been one of low temperatures and relative global (if not regional) climate stability. Compared to most of Earth’s history, today is unusually cold; we now live in what geologists call an interglacial—a period between glaciations of an ice age.’




  40. pugnazious says:


    ‘Stevie Wonder at Glastonbury 2010’
    ‘A Glastonbury headline set featuring so many classics could never go wrong in the hands of this remarkable musician’

    LOL…listening to Kait Borsay on Times Radio and she raised the subject of the Clown Prince of Blackness, Sir Lenny, and his assertion that there are no black faces at Glasto.

    Her guest, black, contradicted that by saying that there had been Black performers there before Stormzy such as Stevie Wonder….Borsay jumped in to suggest that he wasn’t headlining…..Guest…‘Stevie Wonder not headlining!?’ Of course he was headlining!

    Borsay then tried to backtrack as the guest stated she herself and her friends had been to many festivals….Borsay suggesting the Clown Prince didn’t say there were no black faces only a lack of them….except that’s not what he said….

    ”It’s interesting to watch Glastonbury and look at the audience and not see any black people there.’

    Borsay is blonde and white and probably hates herself and her country every time she looks in the mirror…..don’t think she’s ever worked for the BBC but I’m sure with a mindset like hers the door is always open.


    • TrickCyclist says:

      Speed (1994) was on ITV4 this evening. A film I’ve seen several times over the years, I watched the beginning wondering if they would censor the bit where mad bomber Dennis Hopper stabs the building superintendent in the ear.
      As it turned out they didn’t, but they did make an edit that did surprise me – when an arrogant yuppie makes a sarky comment to his beta colleague in the elevator, a short black woman standing between them grins at the man’s discomfort. This reaction, a fraction of a second, was excised.
      Is this where we are now, where any negative portrayal of black people, however mild, cannot be permitted on television? (Short clip in the link below)



    • Guest Who says:

      Stevie Wonder not a headliner.

      Now that takes some ism twisting if she thinks about it.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      There probably aren’t too many whites at grime and drill festivals. Wonder why not? Westwood used to go, but we don’t talk about him any more.


  41. StewGreen says:

    R4 Religion show
    now has a Professor of Climate and Social Justice on
    Prof Beckford seems a black guy
    He’s been to Barbados to find out about the Church Of England’s past slavery business investments
    “Racial Capitalism”

    …if I was a slave I’d prefer that my plantation got bought by the church than by a baddie.
    And probably church ownership smoothed the process of bringing in anti-slavery laws.

    The prof seems to be employed by the BBC to make a World Service prog ..and this item is promotion for the WS prog

    Next LGBT item
    seems to be a Bisexual man maybe a Sikh
    and a Lesbian Hindu
    “a strong colonial legacy” ..ah Hindu practice is whities fault


  42. StewGreen says:

    For the first item the producers thought they do another Rwandan refugee plan item
    Probably thinking the could bring on a Rwandan bishop to bolster the opinions of Britain’s LEFTY church men.
    …. oh dear the bishop was exactly the opposite
    seems like a righty in favour of the plan.

    “LGBT refugees will be okay as long as they don’t start demanding special rights”
    .. The libmob will probably say the bishop has been bought off.


    • StewGreen says:

      prog also reported The Taliban fought against Isis who were attacking the country’s last remaining Sikh Temple.


  43. AsISeeIt says:

    They call themselves Nupes in this presidential edition

    While noting: Macca is playing Glastonbury while Mick is at Hyde Park – The Sunday Telegraph demands of readers: The Beatles vs The Stones ?

    Well, both have their various merits.

    Whereas: French National Assembly vote decides battle between Macron and left (BBC) – I say a plague on both their houses.

    Unusually for BBC political commentators, who tend to apply a rose tint when pundity demands they turn their critical telescope leftward, our chap – Paul Kirby In Paris – appears to be relating a tale of two extremes.

    It’s a far, far better thing he does here: Mr Macron beat the far right in April… Far-left Jean-Luc Mélenchon leads a left-green alliance that finished neck and neck with Macron only a week ago.

    So far-left and left-greens get hyphonated, whilst the far right… not so – frankly, I’ve no notion what to make of that.

    They call themselves Nupes, which stands for New Ecological and Social Popular Union, and the polls suggest they could stop the president winning. (BBC)

    Fortunately, here on this happy isle we don’t have to contend with presidents: Camilla on coping with her critics (Sunday Express); Camilla: Charles and I are like ships that pass in the night (Sunday Telegraph)

    We interrupt this review to satirically paraphase Walter Cronkite, November 22 1963, interrupting normal programming from the CBS Newsroom (there’s one for the teenagers): “This picture has just been transmitted by wire. The picture taken just a moment or two before the incident… From Dallas Texas, the flash, apparently official… President Biden fell off his bicycle at 1pm Central Standard Time… Vice President Kamala Harris is thought to be riding an e-scooter – but we do not know where she is headed”

    No sooner the announcement is made than the official cover up story emerges: Jo Biden takes a tumble after struggling to dismount, caused by one of his shoes getting stuck in the pedal. (Telegraph)

    I’ll wait for the Zapruder footage, showing the fall from a different angle, before putting forward my favourite conspiracy theory – he’s a doddery old geriatric.

    Football fans must really be looking forward to the World Cup this year – he said ironically: He shoots, he scores, he’s jailed. Qatar will get tough on sex & booze…. Qatar says strict laws will not be relaxed for Brit supporters. (Daily Satyr Sunday) – quite right too – when in Rome: World Cup footie fans hoping for a bit of extra time in the bedroom are being warned – you’ll end up behind bars if you have sex outside marriage.

    Gosh we’ve come an awful long way here in Britain

    Dame Kelly: I’m finally free to be me. Sports star reveals she has hidden being gay for 34 years (Sunday Mirror) – good for you, luv. Now keep it to yourself, eh?

    But as mass immigration goes on unabated one does wonder how all that multiculturalism is going to play out?

    Certain of our newcomers don’t tend to abide by that old when in Rome do as the Romans do maxim: UK cinema chain cancels screenings of ‘blasphemous’ film after protests. Cineworld cancels all showings of The Lady of Heaven after branches were picketed by Muslim activists.. The film’s producer defended the rights of the protesters to express their displeasure but said it was against British values for the film to be pulled completely. (Guardian)

    Lefty dilemmas, eh?

    Let’s cheer them up…

    If you like a nice Karen, take care not to pop your cork at sight of the Observer frontpage splash pic: Labour deputy leader Angela Rayner, left, and Frances O’Grady, TUC general secretary… demand action on the cost of living

    For some reason I have in my head Shirley Bassey – or is it Peggy Lee – belting out Hey Big Spender


    • Guest Who says:

      Love a good ‘demand’ in the morning.

      And a #prasnews ‘reveal’. With luck the subsequent ‘opening up’ round will not be Rayneresque.

      In the subject of Dupes, and a grateful msm rallying around their gravity challenged President, I do wonder about who plans these ops.

      I know of only one country leader who can be dispatched to make an utter twat of themselves to the assembled press, get universally mocked, yet still get away with it.

      Sleepy ain’t him.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Dame Kelly’s gay? I’m shocked, shocked I tell you. I never would have guessed, though thinking about it, the fact she used to have a girlfriend might have been a clue.


  44. StewGreen says:

    “Kelly Holmes said she was afraid to come out for fear of prosecution even after she’d left the military .”

    Were lesbians routinely prosecuted ?
    It’s not a surprise that lesbians go into jobs with an all female environment, like womens sports teams etc.
    AFAIK she wasn’t a frontline soldier
    but rather PTI Physical Training Instructor.

    Why would she come out now ?
    Well she’s been under heavy attack getting call transphobic for opposing genetic men in female sport.


    • StewGreen says:

      Since 2010 Twitter said she was lesbian
      quite a few tweets in 2012-2014
      Sounds like it wasn’t a big secret with her army mates.
      10 year old website https://sports.answers.com/sports/Is_kelly_Holmes_gay

      but then when she was on the Piers Morgan show he said something like “these scurrilous rumours that you are lesbian”
      Then papers said she’d been ripped of by a male love rogue, so speculation died down


      • Guest Who says:

        A male love rogue? Time for Deuce Bigalow to get back in training.

        At my school (all boys, yes, I know) the head of PT was fond of demonstrating the correct way to wear a meat and two veg strap (on himself) to bemused juniors.

        His nickname was Poof (surname).

        All found it, at worst, daft. He enjoyed a long career.



      • TrickCyclist says:

        Unfortunately, there’s no Joan Rivers to comment on this sort of thing anymore.


  45. Guest Who says:

    Labour isn’t grasping reality

    Lisa is using Wes language.

    David is coming back grumpy.


    The BBC will have both in for a joint whinge.


    • Guest Who says:


      Can very much depend if Dave is in the country, and no other Labour gob is on standby in the green room.


    • BRISSLES says:

      I’m old enough to remember a time when air travel was a pleasurable way to start a holiday, AND people actually dressed a bit more glamorously. During my years as an overseas estate agent (back in the 80’s/90s ) I regularly travelled in high heels and a suit, so my heart sinks when I see the above photo of endless rucksacks, faded shirts and hoodies.


  46. tomo says:

    Build back better!

    The BBC’s climate drones are going to be all over this.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Gents in top hats and ladies in crinolines must be terrified at this news.


  47. Guest Who says:

    BBC Does Dick 3

    “Why not have a disabled Macbeth or a disabled superhero in a Marvel movie?”

    Trouble is, our pioneering thesp appears to be white and not gender fluid.

    “A rack, a rack, my kingdom for an NHS rack!”


  48. tomo says:


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Tulsi Gabbard is a very intelligent and articulate politician. Thus, she never stood a chance of winning the Democrat nomination. C’mon man!


  49. vlad says:

    The Leader of The Free World.
    When will the lying BBC admit he’s a senile old crook who’s way past his sell-by date?




    • JohnC says:

      The alternative is Trump back in the Whitehouse.

      The BBC would rather the whole planet burns than that. They hate him with a passion. Same as Nigel.