308 Responses to Start the week 20 June 2022

  1. MarkyMark says:

    Independent Press.

    Carriegate: No 10 admits pressuring The Times to drop Carrie Johnson story
    Claim that Johnson tried to install partner in high-paying Foreign Office job denied by wife’s spokesperson

    Andrew Woodcock
    Political Editor
    1 hour ago



    • StewGreen says:

      One scenario is that the story isn’t true.
      So your comment denying it would count as “pressure on the paper to drop the story”


  2. Terminal Moraine says:

    Yesterday I had the misfortune to watch BBC London news at someone’s house and they had a piece on the 5th anniversary of the Finsbury Park mosque attack. The reporter was in no doubt that this was an act of “terrorism related murder” and the piece ended by mentioning speakers calling to stand up against hate crime and islamophobia.

    Compare and contrast with their take on the Manchester murders, which are always talked about in the spirit of solidarity and forgiveness — how people came together to heal and move on with poems and candles.

    They won’t ever use the words hate crime or jihad. But they will continually shift focus to the failure of security and police, and why they weren’t able to prevent a rucksack blowing itself up.


    • Doublethinker says:

      Good post , which perfectly outlines the way in which the entire liberal establishment in this country bury their head in the sand when it comes to the consequences of the invasion which they have sponsored over the past three or four decades.


    • theisland says:

      Most western establishment figures are too cowardly to acknowledge the terror of Islam.
      The bBC is just one of many establishment mouthpieces.
      Any who dare to speak out are silenced.
      It shows us all where the true power lies.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I hate the way “Don’t Look Back in Anger” was somehow made into the semi-official song of the Manchester Arena bombing. For myself, I do look back in anger.


  3. Jack in the Green says:

    Odd how the great champions of absolute freedom of movement for every man and his dog into this country, legal or otherwise, are the first to scream about declining public services like the NHS. The usual media suspects – BBC, ITV, Grauniad, Independent (ha!) etc. must be aware that any welfare state provision sags under the weight of too much demand, i.e. too many people. But even a perfectly reasonable argument like this is scorned as racist/fascist/little Englander/brexit voter blah blah. As a respected U.S. economist stated recently: You can have a welfare state. You can have mass immigration. You can’t have both.


  4. StewGreen says:

    Why are they banging on about trains ?
    Outside London it’s a minority sport.
    Everyone drives or bikes.
    Most journey start and end points are miles, dozens of miles from a train station.

    Sure when I was a child we could bike from my grandmother’s to the small station and get a train with her to Cleethorpes and it was affordable, cos being nationalised it was massively subsidised.
    Once they tried to cut losses and put prices up, no one went any more and they closed the station.

    In my village you’d have to come 6 miles to the big town to get a train, so we didn’t.
    Then when I did move to the town, sure I could walk a mile to the station, but the fares wer so expensive we never used the train except for one school trip.
    AFAIK trains are for freight
    passenger trains can’t exist without subsidies.


    • Scroblene says:

      That’s very true, Stew!

      I used to envy the chums who came to school by train, when we had to use the school bus!

      The sound of a freight train chugging around in the small hours will stay with me forever!


    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Do the majority of the population outside London reside in small rural villages with no need of public transport? I was unaware of that. Not my experience.


      • StewGreen says:

        As I said trains are often useless and expensive if you live in a town too
        Imagine if you lived in Scunthorpe
        how would you get to the station
        and where would you go when you got there ?


  5. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    On Dewbs tonight they are discussing the grooming report in Oldham and the last couple of decades of grooming.

    Guess which word none of them (dared to) mention……… yes, you’re all correct.
    They did mention Jimmy Saville a few times though.


      • StewGreen says:

        The coop has 4 cans of bitter for £1.80 2.8%

        I don’t know if Tescos still has 4 cans for £1 on low strength bitter


        • Scroblene says:

          That Tesco beer is very useful in slug traps apparently Stew, and as the EU banned metaldehyde pellets and our Westminster lot meekly responded likewise, lots of gardeners have to try and find alternative ways to kill the critters!


      • Wild Bill says:

        bBBC staff wages doesnt really affect us white heterosexual christian able bodied males, we are rarely recruited these days.
        It only affects us if webother to pay the tv tax.


    • digg says:

      The other thing I noticed is that the BBC keep stressing “Manchester” police failings, Evelyn sending their reporters to Manchester. So far today I haven’t heard one report including the towns Rotherham and Oldham…. We all know why don’t we?


    • Scroblene says:

      Senora O’Blene and I still think that Rolf Harris was stitched up, as was Dave Lee Travis.

      Back then all sorts of kids were dying to get up nice and dirty with ‘slebs’ and now they see a way to get a few quid, they scream and shout.

      Of course, the awful bbc will deny everything, and say that Savile wasn’t anywhere near these kids, which seems strange when he used to let them come on his shows and gaze at him in wonderment just before he…


      • StewGreen says:

        In 1991 in South Africa my boss told me
        “when I was a girl I went to see Rolf Harris and he put his hand up my skirt”
        .. I remember thinking that’s weird, but I can imagine pop star being pervs

        DLT may be more innocent
        “The court accepted he had cornered the Mrs Merton researcher while she was smoking
        saying it was bad for her ‘poor little lungs’ before stroking her rib cage and squeezing her breasts.”
        Sure that is crossing a line
        “given a three-month suspended sentence”
        Charges involving 9 other women were not successful
        So legally he’s miles away from being in the same league as actual child rapists like, Savile, Max Hill etc.
        and he was sentenced to


      • taffman says:

        As a young taffman I remember that there were lots of ‘groupies’ hanging around the dressing rooms in the dance halls trying to get in for a ‘piece of the action’.
        Maybe some of them have evolved now to become ‘gold diggers’?


    • Zelazek says:

      Listening to the report on the BBC News at 6, I was waiting to hear who exactly had done all this grooming and raping in Oldham. Eventually they enlightened me. It was “older men”.

      Lying by omission is the sneakiest form of a lie. The BBC are brilliant at it. Sounds like Dewbs on GBNews is good at it too.


  6. theisland says:

    This is wrong.

    The adverts, which have been sent to parents of children in a number of primary schools, are promoting COVID-19 vaccine pop-up clinics for primary school-age children. The poster is designed in the style of a children’s party invitation, with cartoon superhero branding, large writing and bright, eye-catching colours. Disturbingly, the invitation is addressed directly to children: “Calling All Superhero Kids.”


  7. Beltane says:

    Latest BBC climate champion Justin Rowlatt, having tarnished shining image with suspect and eminently incredible figures, obviously in need of urgent re-establishment as go-to expert.

    What to do? Wildlife. That’s the answer. How about an all expenses trip to Uganda, moving in mysterious ways among the gorillas. Worked a treat for Sir David back in the 70s, and all the kids love Packham.

    Just keep the dramatic gestures in check Justers old boy, silverbacks might not be altogether au fait with BBC presentation styles.


  8. Eddy Booth says:

    Bbc seems incapable of reporting on:
    “”Lithuania Bans Transit Of Sanctioned Russian Goods To Kaliningrad

    Lithuania has begun a ban on the rail transit of goods subject to European Union sanctions to the Russian far-western exclave of Kaliningrad, transport authorities in the Baltic nation said on June 18.”

    Very inflammatory as the goods are actually coming from Russia to this enclave.

    Instead bbc has
    “Grain blockade a ‘war crime’ and rock band reunites – Ukraine round-up”


    • StewGreen says:

      Doh, Lithuania would be banning a foreign country from transporting material across its own Lithuanian territory to a place which is almost entirely a military base’
      That is nowhere near war crime

      Russia has INVADED Ukraine and effectively banned that sovereign state exporting food to go to African villages etc.
      Yes that is a war crime.


      • tomo says:

        There’s been tit for tatting going on locally wrt to Kaliningrad – I heard from locals that the Russkies were fining Balts + Poles whose transiting vehicles didn’t align with the “official” emissions regs….

        – imagine that … emissions regs in Russia!

        The Lithuanians + Poles I spoke with were pretty pissed about it as in both cases they had to pay in cash….


    • JohnC says:

      Without mentioning of course that all the Ukranian ports are mined, it would take months to remove them and Ukraine have flat out refused to do so anyway.

      So even if the Russians pulled all their ships out, it would not happen.


  9. taffman says:

    “Teen killed man, 82, after shopping centre telling off, court hears
    By Caroline Lowbridge”
    “The now 17-year-old boy – who cannot be named because of his age – is accused of manslaughter but claims he acted in self-defence, Derby Crown Court heard.”

    In taffland the cannot be named “boy” would be old enough to vote .
    What about another referendum to get rid of the wasteful bureaucratic Assembly ?


  10. StewGreen says:

    Actually the boy hasn’t been convicted of anything yet.
    trial is ongoing.


  11. Sluff says:

    Sorry to say this but ITV reporting on the rail strike is every bit as bad as the BBC.
    All the usual tricks. Focus on individual hard luck stories, blame the government.
    Watching ITV it appears the government should join the negotiations and cave in and award a massive pay rise and sto stop the strike because…………a wheelchair user cannot get to work.

    Next up. EasyJet are cancelling more flights. Cue sob story interview with woman who now cannot take part in a family re-union. My god ! The world will end.

    Next up. Oldham abuse of young girls. No mention of the …ahem…..cultural links between perpetrators. All we got was a photo of the grooming gang ringleader who was….wait for it….a welfare officer for the council!
    The non-white gentleman was one Shabbier Ahmed.

    A total disgrace.


    • G says:


      “…..the grooming gang ringleader who was….wait for it….a welfare officer for the council!
      The non-white gentleman was one Shabbier Ahmed.”

      The infiltration continues, unchecked and unhindered.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I had a look at the report last night . I was interested in thr conduct of Peter Fahy – the lefty ex chief constable of Manchester who was in charge during much of the time covered by the Report .

        But he seems to have gotten a free pass – you might recall that he is a regular plod talking head appearing on the BBC when they want the ‘approved ‘ talking head ….

        The desire of the British state to protect paki paedo rapist gangs in the name of ‘community cohesion ‘ seems to remain despite the report.

        I understand – too – that a man who is now a labour MP was in charge of Oldham council for the 15 years covering the Report time – he seems to be getting a free pass too ….

        Neither ‘free passes’ should come as much surprise – nor the infiltration of the councils involved by the paki criminals involved ….


        • Guest Who says:

          The bbc free pass has many a beneficiary.

          Guido has a fact check on Gordo that seems to have passed Springster by.


        • G says:

          While we sit back and watch the collapse/disappearance of everything once sacred, all English should concentrate on avoiding crowds and foreigners, particularly black, and making efforts to avoid the NHS. If you value your life.


        • Wild Bill says:

          Paki paedo rape gangs and Paki terrorists all seem to get off lightly.


  12. pugnazious says:

    Is it not bizarre that the three stooges think anyone is interested in their personal thoughts on anything, bizarre that somebody is willing to pay big money for those thoughts and bizarre that some people may actually listen…but surely not enough people to pay the king’s ransom they manage to pocket?



  13. pugnazious says:


    ‘BBC bosses believe they have solved the problem of perceived Left-wing bias on Newsnight, after Lewis Goodall announced he was leaving to join Emily Maitlis at a commercial rival.

    The departure of Goodall and Maitlis is being viewed as an opportunity to reset the programme and focus on impartiality after the pair were at the centre of damaging rows with the Government.

    BBC insiders said the BBC Two programme would move forward with a new team free from accusations of bias, and with a “scrupulous approach” to impartiality. “This is an important programme and one that it is vital we get right. We are determined to do that, and when people move on it creates opportunities,” one source said.’

    You have to ask who runs the BBC…is it the bosses or the ‘star’ presenters? Seems to be the presenters if the only way the BBC can stop them being biased is by waiting for them to leave under their own steam.


    • JohnC says:

      I’ve concluded the BBC management are like that typical sandal-wearing liberal we all knew at the workplace. Timid and passive cowards in public but tend to be spiteful and nasty when they get confident.

      They are scared of bullies like Chris Evans, Jimmy Saville and no doubt Maitlis. Which is why people like that ‘get on’ at the BBC.


  14. Kinell says:

    I work on the Railway as a Train Driver.

    I support staff who want a pay rise.

    Apart from a few nut jobs in the work place, practically all are just normal people getting on with there lives and trying to get on.


  15. JohnC says:

    French elections: What now for opposition left and far-right?

    That would be FAR-left and far-right BBC.

    For veteran far-left leader Mr Mélenchon:

    ‘Winning 131 seats was a substantial achievement and he took his own France Unbowed (LFI) party from 17 seats to 79. But opinion polls had suggested Nupes could win far more and even its leader felt the results were “rather disappointing”.’

    So he was cheated and really should have got more because ‘opinion polls’ suggested it then BBC ?. What absolute rubbish.

    One thing I have learned since Brexit and Trump is that all opinion polls and all economic forecasts favour what suits the Leftists then they are all ‘shocked’ when the result is different. Seems to happen more often than not these days.


  16. JohnC says:

    I see the story about the 50 Ukranian high-ranking officers being killed by Russian cruise missiles is still absent from the front pages – yet the independent commentators are still saying it happened so it is at least a credible possibility.

    I’m not that bothered about the actual story – but what really bothers me is that when I search for it with google, it get nothing at all except a couple of obscure news sites.

    Yet when I search for something in line with the Leftists agenda, I get 2 or 3 pages of search results – and all usually with similar wording.

    Somehow the Western media is carefull controlled as to what stories they run – and even worse, they are all complicit to do it. Is this the ‘free press’ I’ve heard so much about ?. It’s nothing less than fascism.


  17. tomo says:

    47 people were shot over Father’s Day weekend in Chicago and the mainstream media ignores it.


    • JohnC says:

      All lives only matter to the BBC (and the Left in general) when they can be used for their agenda and as weapons against the Right – who they hate with a passion.

      They don’t care one bit about the actual victims or how much suffering and misery they endure. It’s one of those things which is so blatantly obvious, I wonder why nobody says it.


    • BRISSLES says:

      wow ! – ah but unless they were all killed in one mass shoot-out then its not newsworthy.


  18. Eddy Booth says:

    Mystery of Ukraine’s disappearing Nazis


    “Spearheading this assault was the BBC. A 2014 film on the Maidan Uprising noted that Ukraine represented an increasing ‘neo-Nazi threat’ given, what it claimed, the leading role played by fascist groups such as the Azov Battalion in the riots on Maidan Square which overthrew the pro-Moscow Yanukovych government and replaced it with a West-leaning alternative.

    A follow-up a year later sought to confirm this claim, exposing the growing ranks of paramilitaries brandishing Nazi banners and insignia blithely parading through city centres to the chants of Sláva Ukrayíni (Glory to Ukraine) made notorious by Ukraine’s war-time Nazi collaborators.

    So pernicious were these groups that in 2018 the BBC raised the alarm again, tracking the ‘toxic racism’ and violence of the Azov Battalion and other groups with ‘Nazi overtones’ as they threatened businesses with Russian connections and intimidated elected deputies who refused do their bidding

    “Having spent much effort and money convincing the world of the dangers of Ukrainian neo-Nazism, the BBC has recently been at pains to dismiss such claims as a mix of ‘falsehoods and distortions’ designed to further Putin’s war aims.”

    Funny how easily BBC can change it’s tune as required. 🙂


  19. Fedup2 says:

    From the DT – enjoy

    BBC bosses believe they have solved the problem of perceived Left-wing bias on Newsnight, after Lewis Goodall announced he was leaving to join Emily Maitlis at a commercial rival.

    The Telegraph understands that the corporation did not make a counter-offer when Goodall, the programme’s policy editor, told them he had been approached by Global.

    The departure of Goodall and Maitlis is being viewed as an opportunity to reset the programme and focus on impartiality after the pair were at the centre of damaging rows with the Government.

    Goodall, a former Labour activist who previously worked for a Left-wing think tank, will be the third presenter on Global’s political podcast co-hosted by Maitlis and former BBC correspondent Jon Sopel.

    He will also become the commercial broadcaster’s analysis and investigations editor.

    BBC insiders said the BBC Two programme would move forward with a new team free from accusations of bias, and with a “scrupulous approach” to impartiality. “This is an important programme and one that it is vital we get right. We are determined to do that, and when people move on it creates opportunities,” one source said.

    Nadine Dorries, the Culture Secretary, announced last month that the Government’s mid-term review of the BBC would have a particular focus on impartiality.

    Goodall has had public spats with Sir Robbie Gibb, the former director of communications at No 10 and now a BBC board member.

    In August 2020, he wrote an article for the new Statesman, billed as an examination of “how the Government’s ineptitude created a lost generation”. Sir Robbie wrote at the time: “Is there anyone more damaging to the BBC’s reputation for impartiality than Lewis Goodall? This is so off the scale I don’t even know where to begin.”

    In January of that year, Sir Robbie criticised Goodall’s comments on Brexit. Goodall replied: “Thanks for this Robbie. Maybe one day, if I’m as impartial as you, I can get a knighthood too.” Sir Robbie said: “My advice to you is to listen to constructive criticism and try and improve.”

    Maitlis was responsible for the BBC’s biggest impartiality row in recent years, when she delivered a 2020 Newsnight monologue about Dominic Cummings’ trip to Barnard Castle.

    Maitlis told viewers: “Dominic Cummings broke the rules. The country can see that and it’s shocked the Government cannot.” The facts were disputed at the time, and the BBC said the programme had fallen short of required standards.

    The presenter later told Press Gazette that the BBC had caved in to pressure from Number 10. Earlier this year, she was found guilty of breaching guidelines by retweeting criticism of Nadine Dorries and the Government’s “tawdry Trumpian shabbiness”.

    The current presenting line-up for the BBC Two programme includes Kirsty Wark, Faisal Islam and Mark Urban. Emma Barnett left the show in February to focus on other projects.

    Goodall said his brief as Global’s analysis and investigations editor would be “to supercharge the organisation’s video output”.

    He said on Twitter: “It’s so important to keep yourself challenged and that’s what I’m doing here. The chance to create entirely new things was tantalising.”

    Andrew Marr among recent Global signings

    Goodall added that he would not be leaving the BBC straight away as the corporation was “rightly as always getting their money’s worth” [sic].

    Global has made a concerted effort to poach BBC stars, and counts Andrew Marr among its recent signings.

    Tom Cheal, managing editor of Global’s talk radio station, LBC, said: “Lewis combines expansive knowledge of the inner workings of Westminster with brilliant storytelling and impactful, agenda-setting reporting which will be a core focus as we continue to enhance our video output.

    “Video journalism will play an increasingly important role in how we reach and engage audiences.”ENDS


  20. Scroblene says:

    Morning Fed!

    The good thing about podcasts is that you can ignore them completely when they have such dreadfull bias against normal British citizenship.

    Obviously lefties like Goodall and Maitless plus Marr, think they’re so popular that good people will flock to Global to listen to their fantasies! Might just as well see The Morning Star, which no normal citizen reads…

    At least on Global, the lefties like Darren Adams, O’Brien et al can be switched off at no expense, but the BBBC still piddle about on the left wing, and Ofcom piddle in the same pond!


    • Fedup2 says:

      Hello Scroblene
      I hope you are well . It is interesting thar a broadcaster which now goes out of its’ to declare its’ ‘neutrality ‘ is shedding lefties thinking that name changes makes any difference .

      The arrogance is there for all to see .I’m sure the viewing figures reflect the decline of newsnight and the BBC. I used to watch ‘news night ‘ regularly but I don’t think I’ve seen it for over 10 or 20 years ….

      So I don’t know who ‘Lewis Goodall ‘ is – I’d also be curious about the size of the ‘global ‘ fan club . I suspect it won’t grow at all and these ex far left rubbish will be quietly dropped …..


      • harry142857 says:


        Viewing figures

        The programme’s average audience in 2015 was 579,000, compared to 867,000 in 2008.

        The average audience was 344,000 in September 2018 and by August 2020 around 300,000.


        • Fedup2 says:

          The BBC is enjoying the Strikes . I heard meeeeshal being shredded by a Tory MP who is 1st sec of the Treasury yesterday … he mentioned in passing that the communist running the RMT wouldn’t negotiate with a scum Tory government ( I added the ‘scum ‘ for him as a courtesy ) …meeshal didn’t challenge this …

          The BBC is desperate – desperate – to get the blame the strike moved from their comrades in the RMT to Nut Nut .
          The Labour Party in the commons carried on with this drive .
          But it’s not their fight . These are private enterprises . The best thing that could come out of the rail strike is full automation of trains and cutting the staff so ready to screw their industry …. With a bit of luck work patterns will diminish the railways …..

          I saw Also that some members of the medical mafia are yapping about withdrawing their labour too – would any one notice ?

          Looking forward to pictures of the usual labour MP rabble on the picket lines …although I fear that – like high interest rates – kidults – have little idea about strikes…


        • Fedup2 says:

          Harry – thanks – says it all really – all that money and effort for a lousy 300k labour members ….


  21. Guest Who says:

    The topic of BBC selectivity does arise.

    There is what goes in to, or out of, the edit.

    Then, prior to that, who is recorded. Or not.

    These two ‘explanatory’ redundant bearers of ovary…

    Known to the BBC and approached?

    Know what the BBC likes and approached the national disgrace with their… ‘story’?

    100% of the BBC is utterly agenda riven.


    BBC Radio 4

    Two women explain why they’ve decided not to have children.

    50% of women will not have had a child by the time they reach 30, with 20% not having children at all.


    • JohnC says:

      That will be white women I assume as they have a choice.

      Silence from the BBC about those who are conditioned from birth do whatever their husband tells them.


  22. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning Emole:

    Confused by the strikes? Ros Atkins explains.

    “Aren’t they great? And Labour does not support them striking, just not working. I’ll be joking Global too, soon”.


    Dementia patients not allowed to use toilet

    People with dementia left to soil themselves, little help for patients with using the toilet and the prominence of “pad cultures” – giving all patients continence pads, regardless of whether or not they need them… These were the observations of Prof Katie Featherstone during a year following dementia patients at three hospitals in England and Wales. The director of the University of West London’s Geller Institute of Ageing and Memory has shared her research with BBC Radio 4’s File on 4 programme. And she says while she identified some good practices, time pressures and a shortage of staff meant many felt compelled to use continence pads as a “workaround”. Read our report to get the views of relatives of people with dementia, who say their loved-ones were denied dignity.

    Clearly, more diversity officers and ‘don’t leave folk in soiled undies’ training required. Plus the odd Tok Tok twerk.


    Fatboy Slim DJ sessions to help people’s mental health

    Ex missus millionairess on hand to offer comfort?


    • Fedup2 says:

      I wonder if they’ll mention the practice of discouraging elderly people with continence issues not to take in fluid – saves the nurses a bit of effort ….and helps kill off ‘nuisance bed blockers ‘…..


    • tomo says:

      Ros Atkins wont be joining Global for some time – he’s there to mop up the prominence and salaries of the leavers using what must be some small desperation for “key talent” in management.


  23. Foscari says:

    Does anybody think that it’s about time for the BBC
    to use our license tax money to sponsor transgender
    women athletes to compete with their pemises and all
    against women?
    I am all for anybody to call themselves what they like.
    Be the head of diversity at the BBC being a he, she, or it.
    The BBC appears to think that’s its a close thing
    amongst the general public and doctors that transgender
    women should be able to compete. The madness reminds
    of the two cows mooing in a field outside Dublin. Bernadette
    is mooing to Siobhan ” Siobhan are you worried about this
    mad cows disease?” and Siobhan retorts “why should I
    worry ? I’m a giraffe!”


  24. JohnC says:

    Assam: India floods destroy millions of homes and dreams

    I have to admit I’m somewhat stunned by the BBC’s fairly recent tranformation from news reporting to empathy-laden sympathy pieces which have no place in any balanced information source.

    I suspect they have decided their target audience are Leftists who are not too bright and generally soak up whatever is put in front of them. Just like the student masses who flood HYS with childish spite every time the BBC open one up about Boris.


  25. micknotmike says:

    I think its from Airplane! but irony can be pretty ironic at times. The Ms Springster (I wouldn’t) has some sort of a podcast :-
    “We don’t trust the media, we became it”.
    That’s right, love, and now people don’t trust you.


  26. StewGreen says:

    Train use is a minority sport
    I just checked: It accounts for 1% journeys, 6% of distance
    ie 99% of trips are NOT by train
    94% of distance. is NOT by train

    “A total of 990 million rail passenger journeys were made in Great Britain over the last year (1 April 2021 to 31 March 2022”
    that’s about 14 trips per person
    or 1 per month.


    • MarkyMark says:

      What if they include the train driver?


    • tomo says:

      I saw some numbers a couple of days ago about how much money has been hosed into the railways over the last two years to cover operating losses “because Covid”

      – somebody’d divided it by the number of rail workers…

      So we’re all in this together eh?


    • Sluff says:

      ………which makes the ridiculous relative public spending on railways versus roads all the more totally pathetic woke Leftoid eco-warrior claptrap. Which the stupid Tories have fallen for, hook, line, and sinker.


    • StewGreen says:

      So about 3 million journeys/day spread through 40,000 workers
      So 3,000 journeys through 40 workers
      300 for 4 workers
      So sales for each 1 worker ,75 journeys has to cover their salary and pension for one day

      If that is £60K that is £1200/week or £240day
      So for each of 75 journeys £3.20 each journey must go to cover the workers before adding other costs

      I don’t know if some of the 40,000 workers deal with freight.


  27. Fedup2 says:

    God the BBC love killing babies – sorry – abortion – non babies – foetuses – ….
    So off they go with Roe v Wade. But I read the US Supreme Court judgement – and it doesn’t ban abortion – it stops the Federal Government and gives authority back to the States – that is the States which make Up the US .

    So the BBC doesn’t favour local democracy – if it isn’t ‘approved ‘.
    Disclosure – from my experience – life is cheap – unless it isn’t …
    Maybe this is the mint when Obama decides to stack the Supreme Court with a ‘bunch ‘ of approved coloured lefty anti American judges – probably of the same calibre as Obama’s press secretary ….
    BTW – notice how the tame MSM doesn’t say anything about her …


    • Sluff says:

      Fed up
      I do take your point on the split between federal and state powers, as indeed detailed in the US constitution.

      But suppose those Oldham grooming gangs (about whose ethnicity the BBC was of course silent) had gotten their young white victims pregnant. Not an impossible scenario. Would you deny them the right to an abortion? And make them, aged 15, bring up a mixed race child, possibly condemning them to a life in poverty, and/or on benefits at the taxpayer’s expense?
      If Roe v Wade is overturned, I hope the individual states will at least allow a period of transition or notice of change. 9 months sounds like a sensible period.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Sluff – I guess the 15 year old would need to get on a train and go to a county which allows baby killing .

        I heard that here you can now get an abortion kit sent in the post ….
        As I said – life is cheap – or it’s not …..

        Which is why I am pro death sentence but against abortion –


  28. Sluff says:

    Train strike update not on the BBC.

    Miss S drove to work this morning as usual and experienced……absolutely nothing. Normal traffic.
    She could have worked from home, which she has absolutely nailed down, but chose to go in.

    But that’s not news. Stand by for a day of pestilence, plague, misery, and coverage of the ‘transport crisis’ to be reported by the BBC doom-mongers.


  29. Guest Who says:

    As Newsnight is topical, a reminder on why ratings matter to some, but not others.


    Unique funding does play a part.

    As Meghan Two Shades throws a hissy fit in the wilderness, is the new enlightenment in sporting bodies perhaps a smidge guided by ticket sales?


  30. Guest Who says:


    Here we are wondering if Justin Rowlatt, Becks and Gary ‘The Journalist’ Lineker will be sharing a Lear to Qatar, or taking their own, Spice styly.


  31. Jeff says:

    I don’t know if any of you have been watching Sherwood, the BBCs latest “real life” murder serial…it’s an education.

    It’s “based on a real story, but characters and certain incidents have been invented for dramatic effect”. That gives them an awful lot of leeway…and they use it…

    The story is set in an ex mining village in Nottinghamshire. Some local nutcase is shooting people with arrows and we delve into this broken community, where there is still a lot of bad blood and rancour after the horrendous strike in the 80s. As you know, the Nottinghamshire miners voted not to go on strike.

    To show us some of the history of these events they use real footage of pitched battles between the police and striking miners, spliced with present day actors and extras. You know, I hadn’t realised just how many BAME people had taken part in these demos. It was a real eye opener. Every scene (where actors are used) is full of them.

    There are numerous characters that, in life, were white, but in this fiction have become black or Asian. In this, the sad and eccentric railway afficionado is Asian. This bloke knows everything about the history of British railways…and he’s supposed to be Asian. Never!

    A deeply troubled London policeman, who had been involved in the 80s battles returns and meets up with an old girlfriend; she’s black. I just don’t believe it. BAME people are shoehorned in at every opportunity.

    Half the police are Asian or black and the only truly unsympathetic character is the woman vying to become a Tory councillor. Even the crossbow killer is a deeply troubled broken man.

    As with everything the BBC touch, this is more than just a drama.

    This is propaganda…


    • Beltane says:

      The whole BAME thing has been quite sensitively handled Jeff. The traindriver, played by Adeel Akhtar, is called Andy Fisher to provide a bit of local realism, and all those colourful faces among the crowds of rioting miners obviously represent those that have just come off shift.

      We both know that as strikers they would not have been down the pit to black up anyway, but that’s just a detail.


      • BRISSLES says:

        My dad and both granddads were miners in the Yorkshire and Kent coalmines. Never did I hear of them speak of ethnic colleagues. So I would be interested to know the true figures of how many BAMEs actually worked down the mines during those years.

        My own take on this, would be that in the 50s and 60s ethnics arriving on Windrush et al would be more capital based so wouldn’t necessarily venture too far north or south. Later in the 70’s and 80”s the young 2nd generation men wouldn’t consider this type of work. Asian men even less. I’m not saying that the mines were completely void of ethnic workers, but certainly not as many as drama writers would have us believe.


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      I haven’t watched Sherwood but would I be correct in guessing that the nasty Tory councillor and the crossbow baddie are both white?

      Regarding the black miners.
      Perhaps white miners are frightened of being called racist if they come out of a coal mine with black faces (like Trudeau)


  32. Charlie Farley says:

    This isn’t just Propaganda it’s BBC Propaganda covered in thick Brown Chocolate…..mmmmm !
    Apologies to M&S adverts
    If it wasn’t for those on here that watch the awful BBC we wouldn’t know how bad they have become … thank-you


  33. atlas_shrugged says:

    > Which is why I am pro death sentence but against abortion –

    I am with you on that one. The only time that abortion should be allowed IMHO is when the feminist in question is well under 80 years of age.


  34. Beltane says:

    Those seeking an impartial replacement for Lewis Goodall to provide a fresh and unbiased approach for Newsnight need look no further than the Independent’s Matt Mathers.

    This exceptional journalist has penned a lengthy piece entitled ‘Macron faces no confidence vote….’ in which he covers all aspects of the weakness of Macron’s position and the strength of those ranged against him.

    All this, without once mentioning Marine Le Pen or her 89 seats. Amazing. Sign the man up BBC, he sounds ideal.


  35. Foscari says:

    There is a scene towards the end of the film ” The Terminal”
    starring Tom Hanks when Hank’s character finally manages
    to get out of the airport. He hails a cab ., and asks the cab
    driver how long has he been in New York. The cabbie answers
    ” a couple of days.”
    There is a famous ditty in “The Mikado” where Koko sings
    ” I’ve got a little list” This is a list of society offenders who
    could be executed . And none of them would be missed!!
    TFL should SACK the tube train drivers . As none of them
    would be missed. They could be replaced by “immigrants”
    who have been in the UK for less than two days. I reckon
    to teach a driver to control a tube train would be less
    than an hour . For a nothing job, that pays in excess of £1500
    a week with overtime. The trains can run automatically , as
    they do on the Paris Metro and many others.
    As for the sounds the anarchist Marxist leaders of the Rail
    Unions make. My 8 year old grand-daughter who was on
    Britain’s Got Talent a month ago. could also drive a train
    and make just as good grunt sounding noises as the Union
    Leaders . Mind you she usually mimics the sound of far more
    intelligent creatures than the likes of Mick Lynch. The dolphin
    comes to mind.


    • Kinell says:

      So apart from –

      Weekends off

      Paid leave

      Sick pay


      Maternity leave

      Paternity leave

      Better working conditions

      Safety at work

      Lunch breaks



      And a whole host of other things.

      What have the unions ever done for us.


  36. BRISSLES says:

    Totally off topic. Mercy Merkouri is the worst presenter on GB News, I find her stuttery delivery, stumbling over reading the autocue and pregnant pauses on interviewing, thoroughly irritating.


  37. andyjsnape says:

    France elections: Macron rejects prime minister’s offer to resign
    reports the bBC



  38. Philip_2 says:

    The BBC is a big turn off. REUTEURS NEWS AGENCY REPORT:
    Public distrust of the BBC has doubled (no surprise there!) BBC worried not.

    As the BBC becomes a cultural pump for the woke agenda dressed up as entertainment, it loses legitimacy and weakens the case for universal funding.

    The Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism‘s annual Digital News Report for 2022 is out. The data-heavy report is full of findings about how and where news is consumed. The data points that struck Guido hardest were the loss of trust in BBC News. It has fallen 20 points in the last five years, from 75% to 55%. Equally telling is the proportion who say they distrust the BBC, which has more than doubled from 11% to 26%. This the Reuters Institute says is because
    “The majority of these are from the political right, echoing criticism from Boris Johnson’s government about an alleged anti-Brexit and liberal bias, but we also find that low trust in the BBC also comes from those who are less interested in news altogether. … Declining trust is a particular challenge for public media organisations, as they try to fulfil their mission to appeal to all audiences.”
    As the BBC becomes a cultural pump for the woke agenda dressed up as entertainment, it loses legitimacy and weakens the case for universal funding. If it dismays a sizeable section of the population the case for moving to a subscription model funded by consenting viewers becomes overwhelmingly stronger.
    No doubt leftie metropolitan types will point out that the least trusting of the BBC are Brexit-backing Tory blokes without degrees in media studies, so it doesn’t matter.  It does because they are forced to pay a television tax to fund an organisation that despises them, a situation which cannot prevail for much longer…

    Thanks Guido!

    Report also copied across to Net Zero here (real climate costs kick in).

    BBC Climate Scientologists of ‘Woke’ is confirmed yet again, they call themselves progressive (whilst being the middle-age 16th Century regressives)!!


    • Fedup2 says:

      It’s a bit of an insult to Goebells – on whose propaganda methods the BBC output is based – that so many people are noticing what those on this site see as obvious …..

      … their revolutionary fervour to change the outlook of the British – to denegate the country – current and past – whenever possible is noticeable to even the most casual viewer now .

      With a bit of luck the BBC group think will poison itself cum the Charter review –
      – but provides an explanation – should one be needed – why the have gone full ‘trump ‘ on the PM – who is real show biz when compared to the labour one – who is it again? ….


  39. tomo says:

    So … there it is – memory holed?


    We’re all in this together (where’s my £2000 rise?)


  40. MarkyMark says:


    Mark Haywood
    Wed, 21 Mar 2018, 12:35
    to KHP

    Why isn’t MP David Lammy on the list of misconduct?

    He has not been seen on his £650 all expenses paid bike!

    15. Members are personally responsible and accountable for ensuring that their use of any expenses, allowances, facilities and services provided from the public purse is in accordance with the rules laid down on these matters. Members shall ensure that their use of public resources is always in support of their parliamentary duties. It should not confer any undue personal or financial benefit on themselves or anyone else, or confer undue advantage on a political organisation.


  41. Thoughtful says:

    The cowardly Tories too scared to take on the BBC are propsing the TV tax is hiked higher by linking it to council tax banding and making people in larger homes pay even more for the thing !

    There really are no words to describe the total idiocy of these fantasy bubble dwellers !


  42. tomo says:

    It can’t happen here



    • Terminal Moraine says:

      tomo the trucker’s protest in Ottawa this year was an ominous sign. Canadian banks were freezing the accounts of protesters and they also managed to shut down crowdfunding sources donating to the protesters — talk was of ‘redistributing’ those funds to more appropriate campaigns.

      Radio phone-ins pretend to be interested in cancel culture but it’s just for show. They won’t touch the reality we’re in, which is that western governments are able to shut down speech, livelihoods and bank accounts, all in the name of the common good.


  43. tomo says:



    • Fedup2 says:

      It’s okay because people in other countries pay even more tax …
      … let those ‘ with the broadest shoulders “ pay “a little more “…tax … (terms used by liberal MPs of all Parties – who claim their taxes back through ‘expenses ‘And ‘donations “/ bribes )


    • StewGreen says:

      The general gist is right
      but details seem wrong
      If you charge a client £100, that is not your profit
      Therefore that is not you salary, cos you have right to deduct your expenses/costs first.
      The remainer is your income
      that’s what your NI is based on
      However you don’t pay income tax on the first £10K of income so I don’t get where his £33 income tax on £75 of income comes from.

      But on his fuel expenditure he has missed off the mining tax that the government takes if the fuel originates in the UK.

      70% tax on £42 is about £29 not £30 like he said
      but whisky is not taxed at 70%
      The tax on a litre bottle at 40 proof is £11.50
      then VAT on top

      If he buys expensive whisky then less of it is tax.

      I think there is some rule that you can’t do we he did about the other person’s income
      cos that ends up as double counting.
      His tax payment is already accounted for in his own tally, you can’t add it to yours.


  44. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Our railway is, if I’ve heard correctly, the most expensive and least efficient of similar railways in Europe.

    Going on strike for alternating days is very sneaky as the in between days are also badly affected.
    Those in charge of the railways should tell strikers to stay away from the first day until the last day instead of the on/off days they are currently doing.
    This would mean staying off today until Sunday (without pay)

    Many travellers will be finding new ways to wfh or commute and passenger numbers will go further down meaning less need to be employed by the railways and I would put strikers at the top of the redundancy lists.

    The unions cannot be allowed to win because this would open the door to a flood of strikers from others such as teachers and lawyers (good time to arrange Rwanda flights if they go on strike)

    Meanwhile, pensioners, those over 70 on the old second class pension, got 3.1 percent or about £4 per week rise if they get the maximum full state pension.
    The rise alone that the drivers want is about the same as the full older state pension.


    • Kinell says:

      Most Drivers are in ASLEF. Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen, and are not striking.
      Stop spreading nonsense.
      What evidence have you got that it’s the least efficient in Europe.


  45. Beltane says:

    ‘The rail strikes are just the start. Tory cruelty has left workers no choice but to fight back’.

    Only the Guardian would pay some hack to come up with a headline like that and only Polly Toynbee is sufficiently absurd an anachronism to have written it.

    Never mind Poll. A bottle or two of Barollo will soften the blows to your aching and overworked old body.


  46. StewGreen says:

    7:30pm BBC 2 book show unusually not mostly BAME
    one white guy, one black guy obsessed with Grenfell
    And 3 white women (one who’s from Ireland)

    Then the daily hour about South Asian history in Birmingham


  47. Guest Who says:

    I had assumed Champion learned about class from inspirational female shadow party deputy leaders of Ginger.

    Vile does get the good ones.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Who is that ?
      Maybe she could go find a better country ….


    • pugnazious says:

      Aren’t grammar schools just a type of school like a technical ccollege, an art school or sports academy? Grammars are academic and for pupils that want to excell at swotting…if they wanted to excel at footie they’d go to a football academy etc….perfectly sensible to specialise and improve in a conducive atmosphere.


    • pugnazious says:

      Fact check….do grammar schools hog all the funding? No…in fact state school get more on average….

      ‘It’s correct that around half of grammar schools in England received less than £4,500 per pupil in 2016/17. No grammar school received more than £5,500 per pupil.

      Around 70 (or 5%) of the 1,500 non-grammar state schools taking students aged 11-18 received under £4,500 per pupil. A small number (21) received more than £8,000 per pupil.

      On average, grammar schools in England received around £4,500 per pupil, while other state schools received £5,200.’



  48. Terminal Moraine says:

    If anyone wants a laugh (or a cry), listen to Naga Munchetty on R5 this morning.

    Her attempt at trying to explain inflation would make a 6yr old wince. Then there was an extended piece about potentially banning the sale of schoolgirl uniforms in sex shops, which seemed to go on for ages all about schoolgirls and sex in the way that only the BBC think is informative and educational.

    I didn’t hang around but next up was a piece in which Naga asked her listeners if it was ok to ‘wee-wee’ in the sea. I’m not making this up.

    Just pull broadcasting house down and replace it with a giant bouncy castle. Everyone’s better off.


  49. pugnazious says:

    I posted a comment previously that reported the US government’s NOAA telling us that the world’s normal climate was hot…we are, they said, in an abnormally cold period right now…thus global warming is a correction…natural or man-made. Polar ice-caps are an aberration.

    Are all the extreme measures being imposed upon us to stop that process necessary…or effective? Reducing emissions of any kind might be a good idea but what if the radical and extreme measures are solving a problem that doesn’t exist, and aren’t that effective and have downsides that the climate lobbyists aren’t telling us about?

    Which is better…nuclear or solar and wind? Merkel shut down nuclear and emissions went up as did the price…electricity is twice the price in Germany than in France…not only that but she put Germany at the mercy of Putin….as I’ve always said…she was the best and most successful agent the Soviets ever had.

    “I think a better alternative would be to just tell the truth.”


    • Eddy Booth says:

      “Polar ice-caps are an aberration.”
      I thought it was the reverse, that ice age is the norm, with short inter glacial periods, like now, the rarity.


  50. tomo says:

    Looks like some tugging on loose ends on Jan 6th “Insurrection” at the US Capitol is reeling in some interesting snippets.

    Plain clothes DC cops mingled with the people inside and outside the Capitol


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