606 Responses to Midweek 20 July 2022

  1. taffman says:

    Is our broadcaster on a “Death Wish” ?
    All of their their “well paid” employees hoping that it will be wound up and then to get their ‘Golden Redundancy’ pay outs?

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  2. taffman says:

    “Doncaster murders: Teenager guilty of street fight stabbings”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-62262164
    Those “men” again.
    Catch it quick before it disappears the from the front page .

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  3. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    There’s an item slightly further back about private healthcare.

    From bitter experience, the one thing that you can do in these times, is to invest in private healthcare.

    I had a serious situation in late 2020 at the height of the ‘pandemic’ and the NHS treatment of it was woeful. Telephone appointments, unable to call back, no physical examinations, etc, etc adds a massive layer of stress at a stressful period normally.

    As this had a good outcome as of a couple of days ago as I emerged out of all this, I couldn’t help but notice that £278 per month on my payslip for NI gives a fraction of the service and quality I had privately for £48 per month through Aviva. The only Corona bollocks I had was masks in the consultations/examinations, and PCR testing prior to both surgeries. Oh, and no visitors.

    Unfortunately if I had had to rely on the NHS, I would either be still waiting on some list or six feet under. The amount of people in this country who don’t have private healthcare, or believe the Labour/SNP/Lib/BBC line about private healthcare as evil, and are waiting on life changing/saving procedures, makes me incredibly sad.

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  4. pugnazious says:

    ‘To this day, precious few anti-Trumpers have been honest with themselves about the elaborate hoax — there’s just no other word for it — that was the Steele dossier and all the bogus allegations, credulously parroted in the mainstream media, that flowed from it.’

    A lefty New York Times columnist admits he was wrong….

    ‘I Was Wrong About Trump Voters’

    ‘The worst line I ever wrote as a pundit — yes, I know, it’s a crowded field — was the first line I ever wrote about the man who would become the 45th president: “If by now you don’t find Donald Trump appalling, you’re appalling.”

    The broad swipe at his voters caricatured them and blinkered me.

    It also probably did more to help than hinder Trump’s candidacy. Telling voters they are moral ignoramuses is a bad way of getting them to change their minds.’

    I wonder if Justin Webb & Co are penning similar missives and mea culpas?

    Of course that last line shouldn’t apply to an impartial, unbiased national broadcaster…

    ‘Telling voters they are moral ignoramuses is a bad way of getting them to change their minds.’

    That’s OK for the NYT but the BBC trying to change people’s minds? That’s definitely not OK….they are there to provide accurate and truthful information to allow voters to make their own minds up…not to have their minds made up for them…and if they choose the ‘wrong’ option not to be denigrated, mocked and abused by the BBC….and that is what the BBC did.

    The BBC ran, is still running, a prolonged anti-Trump campaign that denounced anyone who was connected to Trump or voted for him as ‘deplorable’ if not racist, Islamophobic, white supremacist and Far-Right….you just have to look at how the BBC’s Sopel smeared teenage Trump supporters and even when he was eventually forced to grudgingly admit he may have got it wrong he still smeared the young men….

    ‘The Covington boys, who went from an ugly MAGA hat-wearing mob to pious Catholic students in a heartbeat, got a mauling too – perhaps justifiably.’

    ‘Perhaps justifiably’? In what way was the massive hysterical attacks on these boys ‘perhaps justified’? They did absolutely nothing wrong…and it was proven that they didn’t.

    Sopel insinuates, no, states, Nick Sandman is still guilty and tries to discredit him with this….

    ‘And the teenager, Nick Sandman, who’d been in the face of a tribal elder, took on a PR firm to act for him. ‘

    Oh My God…Sandman, a schoolboy, employed a PR team…to counter the 90% of the MSM that was, and obviously still is, see above, libelling him.

    And then…

    ‘The elderly Native American had his life turned over.’

    Going for the sympathy vote…never mind it was the lying elderly Native American who confronted the boy and started banging a drum right in his face….but Sopel claims the boy had ‘been in the face of a tribal elder.’ No, no he hadn’t….he was there minding his own business when the ‘elderly tribal American’ got in his face.

    Will the BBC ever admit it was wrong? If it had to pay damages as it has for the Bashir/Panorama corruption for every such ‘misjudgement’ they’d be bankrupt in no time.

    The whole NYT article….

    ‘The worst line I ever wrote as a pundit — yes, I know, it’s a crowded field — was the first line I ever wrote about the man who would become the 45th president: “If by now you don’t find Donald Trump appalling, you’re appalling.”

    This opening salvo, from August 2015, was the first in what would become dozens of columns denouncing Trump as a unique threat to American life, democratic ideals and the world itself. I regret almost nothing of what I said about the man and his close minions. But the broad swipe at his voters caricatured them and blinkered me.

    It also probably did more to help than hinder Trump’s candidacy. Telling voters they are moral ignoramuses is a bad way of getting them to change their minds.

    What were they seeing that I wasn’t?

    That ought to have been the first question to ask myself. When I looked at Trump, I saw a bigoted blowhard making one ignorant argument after another. What Trump’s supporters saw was a candidate whose entire being was a proudly raised middle finger at a self-satisfied elite that had produced a failing status quo.

    I was blind to this. Though I had spent the years of Barack Obama’s presidency denouncing his policies, my objections were more abstract than personal. I belonged to a social class that my friend Peggy Noonan called “the protected.” My family lived in a safe and pleasant neighborhood. Our kids went to an excellent public school. I was well paid, fully insured, insulated against life’s harsh edges.

    Trump’s appeal, according to Noonan, was largely to people she called “the unprotected.” Their neighborhoods weren’t so safe and pleasant. Their schools weren’t so excellent. Their livelihoods weren’t so secure. Their experience of America was often one of cultural and economic decline, sometimes felt in the most personal of ways.

    It was an experience compounded by the insult of being treated as losers and racists —clinging, in Obama’s notorious 2008 phrase, to “guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them.”

    No wonder they were angry.

    Anger can take dumb or dangerous turns, and with Trump they often took both. But that didn’t mean the anger was unfounded or illegitimate, or that it was aimed at the wrong target.

    Trump voters had a powerful case to make that they had been thrice betrayed by the nation’s elites. First, after 9/11, when they had borne much of the brunt of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, only to see Washington fumble and then abandon the efforts. Second, after the financial crisis of 2008, when so many were being laid off, even as the financial class was being bailed out. Third, in the post-crisis recovery, in which years of ultralow interest rates were a bonanza for those with investable assets and brutal for those without.

    Oh, and then came the great American cultural revolution of the 2010s, in which traditional practices and beliefs — regarding same-sex marriage, sex-segregated bathrooms, personal pronouns, meritocratic ideals, race-blind rules, reverence for patriotic symbols, the rules of romance, the presumption of innocence and the distinction between equality of opportunity and outcome — became, more and more, not just passé, but taboo.

    It’s one thing for social mores to evolve over time, aided by respect for differences of opinion. It’s another for them to be abruptly imposed by one side on another, with little democratic input but a great deal of moral bullying.

    This was the climate in which Trump’s campaign flourished. I could have thought a little harder about the fact that, in my dripping condescension toward his supporters, I was also confirming their suspicions about people like me — people who talked a good game about the virtues of empathy but practice it only selectively; people unscathed by the country’s problems yet unembarrassed to propound solutions.

    I also could have given Trump voters more credit for nuance.

    For every in-your-face MAGA warrior there were plenty of ambivalent Trump supporters, doubtful of his ability and dismayed by his manner, who were willing to take their chances on him because he had the nerve to defy deeply flawed conventional pieties.

    Nor were they impressed by Trump critics who had their own penchant for hypocrisy and outright slander. To this day, precious few anti-Trumpers have been honest with themselves about the elaborate hoax — there’s just no other word for it — that was the Steele dossier and all the bogus allegations, credulously parroted in the mainstream media, that flowed from it.

    A final question for myself: Would I be wrong to lambaste Trump’s current supporters, the ones who want him back in the White House despite his refusal to accept his electoral defeat and the historic outrage of Jan. 6?

    Morally speaking, no. It’s one thing to take a gamble on a candidate who promises a break with business as usual. It’s another to do that with an ex-president with a record of trying to break the Republic itself.

    But I would also approach these voters in a much different spirit than I did the last time. “A drop of honey catches more flies than a gallon of gall,” noted Abraham Lincoln early in his political career. “If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his sincere friend.” Words to live by, particularly for those of us in the business of persuasion.’

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/21/opinion/bret-stephens-trump-voters.html

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Reference CAS-6617681-T3R8R9

      Dear Mr MM

      Thank you for contacting us about Beyond 100 Days on the BBC News Channel. We note and appreciate your concerns.
      (NOT DOING 100 DAYS FOR BIDEN)

      We can assure you that the scheduling of Beyond 100 Days has no relevance to the recent US Presidential elections. We would also highlight that you can continue to watch BBC News with Katty and Christian on the BBC New Channel.

      BBC News never takes a position on any story that we cover.

      We do value your feedback about this. All complaints are sent to senior management and we’ve included your points in our overnight report.

      These reports are among the most widely read sources of feedback in the company and ensures that your concerns have been seen by the right people quickly. This helps inform their decisions about current and future content.

      Kind regards,

      Darren Loughlin

      BBC Complaints Team
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints

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      • pugnazious says:

        ‘BBC News never takes a position on any story that we cover.’

        Really?

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Shall we list the stories the BBC won’t cover properly?

          Paki gangs
          Coloured criminals
          Invaders at the channel
          Corrupt EU
          Demented Biden
          Failing democrat America
          A stolen election
          Successes of Trump
          Vaccine damage
          Chinese virus origins
          China
          Dodgy weather theories
          Tax and welfare fraud
          Harmful immigration
          Overwhelmed Anglo populations
          Corrupt SNP
          SNP totalitarianism
          Perverted sex and mental health
          Failing NHS
          NHS killing people
          Medical mafia corruption

          For starters ….

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  5. BRISSLES says:

    5 hour queues at Dover Port to cross the Channel, endless queues and cancellations at airports – how the hell do we leave the country ???? A bloody sight easier getting into the country in a li-lo from France. Laughable.

    Glad I’m off on a cruise from Southampton in November – seems to be the only way without any hassle (unless some prats decide to block the M3) !

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  6. Fedup2 says:

    The French border guards have obviously been re deployed to the French coast to stop the third world invading England every day …
    Breed sharks …

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  7. pugnazious says:

    The BBC ran, is still running, a prolonged anti-Trump campaign ….Justin Webb this morning declaring that Trump launched the Jan 6 attacks in order to ‘steal an election using violence….an attack on Democracy itself.’

    When challenged on this he stated that the BLM/Antifa nationwide riots were merely local affairs whilst Jan 6 was an attempt to overturn the Constitution.

    Hmmm….BLM/Antifa/Democrats/MSM trying to destroy the US constitution, to destroy US history, to destroy ‘whiteness’….or a bunch of protestors who were almost ushered into the Capitol building by ‘security’ and who made no attempt at all to ‘overturn the Constitution’ or ‘steal the election’…..it was a noisy protest that somehow ended where it did…quite unintentionally.

    Who bangs the drum to overturn the Constitution? The NYT has endless articles willing it to happen…

    ‘ if the Constitution can’t be changed to adapt to modern needs and the Supreme Court becomes both too powerful and too politicized, the political system starts breaking down.’

    The Constitution is so flawed it must be changed…to suit…

    ‘if the story of the Articles of Confederation tells us anything, it is that these flaws (assuming one views them as flaws) are not in themselves enough to prompt change. What will bring change — or at least the possibility of change — is when those flaws render the country too sclerotic and dysfunctional to tackle its most existential challenges.’

    Of course the Times runs the 1619 Project which has the aim of changing American history to suit the Left’s worldview regardless of fact.

    Webb wheeled in a Democrat Congressman who got away with murder as he claimed ‘We accepted the 2016 election result and moved on.’

    No, no, no…in no way whatsoever did the Democrats ‘move on’ They spent the next four years trying to unseat Trump using every possible means, usually more foul than fair….even the NYT now admits the Trump dossier was a complete fraud and a hoax…

    ‘To this day, precious few anti-Trumpers have been honest with themselves about the elaborate hoax — there’s just no other word for it — that was the Steele dossier and all the bogus allegations, credulously parroted in the mainstream media, that flowed from it.’

    Clinton never accepted she lost and continues to this day to claim the election was stolen from her.

    How is it the BBC somehow doesn’t mention this…how did Webb not challenge that statement?

    The Democrat congressman went on that their mission was to ‘unite and heal America…the greatest threat to America wasn’t Russia, China or Iran it was Americans fighting amongst themselves.’

    Hmmm….this from a party that has absolutely polarised America politically and racially…divided, torn apart and destroyed America and its unity…even down to its very existence as a nation….its identity, its history and yes, its Constitution.

    But Webb said nothing.

    Why?

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  8. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 yesterday – well, now there’s a surprise

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62247499 with the BBC talking up ‘the-cost-of-living-crisis’

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  9. MarkyMark says:

    “A lot of the woke agenda has been permeating… almost through the entire BBC… How they [the BBC] bow down to every single pressure group going…whether that’s Black Lives Matter…it’s a namby pamby approach.”

    Apparently this was even a huge concern for his constituents at the time. The, erm, same constituents he represents today…

    order-order.com

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  10. MarkyMark says:

    Soldiers in the Myanmar military have admitted to killing, torturing and raping civilians in exclusive interviews with the BBC. For the first time they have given detailed accounts of widespread human rights abuses they say they were ordered to conduct.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-62208882
    ……

    Prof Jay said: “No-one knows the true scale of child sexual exploitation in Rotherham over the years. Our conservative estimate is that approximately 1,400 children were sexually exploited over the full inquiry period, from 1997 to 2013.”

    Revealing details of the inquiry’s findings, Prof Jay said: “It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered.”

    The inquiry team found examples of “children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made to witness brutally violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone”.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089

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  11. MarkyMark says:

    Sadiq Khan opened the London Blossom Garden in the park, which features 33 blossoming trees – one for each London borough – for people to “contemplate and reflect on the impact of the pandemic”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62251671
    ……………….

    Sadiq Khan has shamelessly abandoned his mayoral campaign pledge to plant two million trees by 2020, a promise designed to outflank the green credentials of Zac Goldsmith. Last week Guido revealed that no trees had been planted and there were no plans to start digging. Sadiq needed to plant 10,000 trees a week to make the target…
    https://order-order.com/2016/10/13/khan-chops-campaign-pledge-to-plant-2-million-trees/

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    • taffman says:

      MarkyMark
      While n the subject of trees……….

      “Farming: Mark Drakeford wants tree planting for subsidies”
      “More tax being spent on farming is something Wales’ first minister has to justify to “Bangladeshi taxi drivers” in Cardiff, he has said.”
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62258709
      That’s another institution we have to get rid of .

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      • MarkyMark says:

        A new Welsh government subsidy scheme to replace EU-based payments for agriculture has been in development since the Brexit vote and is set to be introduced from 2025.

        Mr Drakeford said: “If you wish to take advantage of that money, if you want to have help from the Welsh taxpayer, then you will have to find a way of bringing yourself within the scheme that allows me, as the first minister, to justify to Bangladeshi taxi drivers in Riverside, where I live, why they should pay their taxes in order to support farmers in Wales.”

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62258709

        Ahmadis suffer vicious persecution around the world. The main source of fuel for that persecution is in Pakistan, but what happens in Pakistan does not stay in Pakistan.

        I know that from my experience in the Yorkshire market town of Batley. In August 1985, when I was 11 years old, my parents organised an inter-faith meeting in the town hall. It was interrupted and disturbed when, according to West Yorkshire police, more than 1,000 extremists, led by Pakistani hate preachers funded by the Pakistani state, were bused in from around the country. The mob brutally attacked my English mother and my father, a dermatologist; my eldest brother and I; and a Welsh Ahmadi schoolteacher who was with us. My first cousin, a GP, was by chance driving through the market town that day. He saw the mob and saw his family and friends being attacked, so he stopped. He was recognised, pulled from his vehicle and savagely beaten up.

        https://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id=2020-03-12a.177.0&s=islam+batley#g195.0

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    • Wild Bill says:

      Ten years ago I singlehandedly planted 300 trees around a school playing field where I live.
      A bit better attempt than Khan managed.

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  12. pugnazious says:

    Fascinating how the BBC remains silent….the ‘racist’ Royal who made shockingly racist comments about Royal offspring has been unmasked…possibly.

    ‘Palace insiders blast ‘NONSENSE’ claims that Camilla joked how Harry and Meghan’s unborn baby would have a ‘ginger Afro’ – as Duchess of Cornwall is dragged in royal race row by bombshell biography’

    The Mail gets it out there….but the BBC stays schtuum. Bit of a quandary perhaps….the book the allegation comes from absolutely lays into Meghan Markle…..so if the BBC reports this it may have to report the rest…so best keep quiet despite having made the racist Royal claims headline news when Markle and Harry did their infamous Oprah interview.

    On the other hand it was happy to broadcast claims that could not be verified and didn’t identify anyone in particular but just smeared the whole Royal family but now when faced with a very sensitive claim that needs to be rigorously investigated and legally sound before denouncing someone as a racist they remain quiet…can’t have another ‘Bashir’ can we?

    And interesting how Markle framed the original smear as….

    ‘ concern within the royal family about her baby’s skin tone’

    ‘Concern’ is a very prejudicial term….was it ‘concern’ about the child’s skin colour or was it mere joking and the usual curiosity in any family about who the baby will look like most? Suggesting, should the claim be true, that the kid might have a ‘ginger afro’ isn’t at all racist…it’s a joke based upon a very real possibility….and it’s not ‘a concern.’

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  13. tomo says:

    My letterbox waterfall of promo-paper has started to include flyers for private GP services.

    “Get your life back on track. Book your consultation, including blood tests and x-rays for only £95”

    I wonder how many times this is replicated across the country?

    ps – orthopaedic surgery (knees & hips) touted as ⅓ time of NHS

    Envy of the world – keep clapping

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    • MarkyMark says:

      MPs who use private healthcare should be barred from voting on the NHS
      MPs must declare whether they or their dependents use private healthcare. If they do, the MP should lose the right to speak or vote on any bills affecting the NHS. It is not right that MPs can impose laws on us that they can opt out of.

      https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/118632

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      • tomo says:

        Looks like the anychess peeps are set to monetise your medical records a la DVLA – and they’re not keen on you having any say on the matter…

        see:

        https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/20/nhs_data_platform_consultation/

        that’s OK eh?

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        • MarkyMark says:

          Palantir Technologies is a public American software company that specializes in big data analytics. Headquartered in Denver, Colorado, it was founded by Peter Thiel, Nathan Gettings, Joe Lonsdale, Stephen Cohen, and Alex Karp in 2003. Wikipedia

          …..

          Palantir: NHS faces legal action over data firm contract

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56183785

          The NHS is being taken to court over its contract with controversial US data firm Palantir.

          Open Democracy said it had launched the legal action over Palantir’s long-term involvement in the analysis of vast amounts of public health data.

          It also alleges that Palantir lobbied a top NHS official over expensive watermelon cocktails.

          …..
          Border preparations stepped up
          It will use £20m software produced by the US tech firm Palantir, which gathers information from different government computers, in the hope of minimising the amount of “short-term” disruption at the border in the days and weeks after 1 January.
          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55133506

          Immigration: Visa applications open under UK’s post-Brexit system
          Published
          1 December 2020

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      • Fedup2 says:

        MPs should get two votes if they have private health insurance ( expenses claim ) – they should not have to use the NHS – that’s for inferior people such as taxpayers (PAYE ) and the thick voters …. Plebs ….

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      Sign up for it, you’ll probably get see your own GP whose too busy for pesky NHS appointments.

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  14. Eddy Booth says:

    Russia ‘looting’ steel bound for Europe and UK, says Metinvest boss
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62252704

    “The firm owns the Azovstal plant that became the last holdout of Ukrainian soldiers and civilians during the devastation of the city of Mariupol.”

    No mention of the fact the firm itself is owned by oligarch Rinat Akhmetov, Ukraine’s richest person.
    475 foot yacht sailor etc…
    Guess things like that are only relevant to the BBC when Russian owned football clubs are concerned.

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  15. StewGreen says:

    “Oh Boo hoo the plebs get their news from Facebook.
    How thick are they ?”

    Yes , cos the wisdom of the crowds does seem better than media chumps these days.

    On Tuesday someone in the shop told me, that they had seen a fire on the way home.
    So I looked it up on Facebook and found 5 local fire events
    For that first one where an abandoned factory recreation ground had caught fire, a farmer had gone in with the plough circled the fire and cut it all off… top man
    – For the fire the other end of town where a field fire had spread to a closed down council daycare centre I spotted a drone operator had put up photos
    So I put in a link on the Facebook page.

    We don’t have proper local papers any more, instead we have a weekly newspaper put together by cutNpasters pasting together 100 other local papers 100 miles from where we are.
    So on Tuesday or Wednesday they too had used Facebook to research their story, grabbed the drone photos and pasted them into the newspaper frontpage and sent it off to the printworks on Wednesday PM
    So when it came out on Thursday that’s how the frontpage of the ScunthorpeTelegraph looks
    : grainy drone shots, cos the newspaper people were unable to work out how to get proper HQ images from social media posts

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  16. tomo says:

    now THAT is urine larceny on quite an epic scale.

    1000 illegal migrants use arrest warrants as ID for US flights

    Is there another, erm, word… – stronger than “farce”?

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  17. StewGreen says:

    For a fire on Scunthorpe I recognised the area from the drone photos.
    It was a field fire behind some scrapyards
    Again it was cutoff to the middle of the field as if ploughs or fire engines had stopped it

    Yet in the local paper it is titled
    “*Huge* Scunthorpe blaze was deliberate says fire service”
    .. Again that is headline hyperbole, it wasn’t huge .. really
    I’d suspect local rough kids rather than XR

    Anyways here’s a comment someone made
    FYQ_5V_WAAE3f6C?format=jpg&name=small

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  18. Guest Who says:

    The BBC does like its exemptions, especially from FOIs, whilst getting very ‘creative’ and/or ‘snarky even with matters of life or death or national security.

    When it comes to itself…

    https://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2022/news/bbc-fails-in-bid-to-ban-daily-journalists-from-court-case/?

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    • StewGreen says:

      #BBCshushyshushy “The corporation made an application to exclude the Belfast Telegraph from part of an upcoming tribunal hearing relating to Donna Traynor, who quit her role as a presenter on its Newsline programme in November last year
      but \\employment judge ruled that a journalist .. be permitted to attend “all of the substantive hearing including any private session”//

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  19. StewGreen says:

    Dominic Cummings saying Boris wants Truss, so he can swoop back in when she screws up.
    Doh Boris can’t come back in quickly cos he have to be rehabilitated first
    ‘Truss is a human handgrenade cos he blows everything up’
    .. Well she did get the trade deals done.
    https://www.twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1549782798608785408

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Cummings – Why Leave Won the Referendum
      nudgestock

      the single most important
      reason really for why I wanted to get
      out of the EU is I think that it will
      draw it will drain the poison of a lot
      of political debates it will kill off I
      predicted that that if we get out you
      keep in light alfarache will be finished
      that’s an early game for vote leave as
      you can see that’s happened that whole
      side of politics in Britain will go once
      this Democratic control of immigration

      policy immigration will go back to being a second or third order issue and that
      will be a very positive and healthy
      thing for the country

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      • StewGreen says:

        @Marky : Right hand side of your screen where the Youtube transcript is,
        there is a three dot button cick it & select “toggle timestamps”. so switch it off

        Then copy the text and put it through https://www.textfixer.com/tools/remove-line-breaks.php
        .. to remove the weird line breaks
        Then remove the Youtube errors eg “start” instead of “style”, then put in punctuation.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Cumming says
        “Fundamentally, pretty much the worst case scenario for Europe, is a return to 1930s style protectionism and extremism
        And to me, the EU project / Eurozone project are driving the growth of extremism, which is extremely DANGEROUS.
        And the single most important reason really for why I wanted to get out of the EU is, I think that it will drain the poison of a lot of political debates, it will kill off.. (ends)

        I predicted that that if we get out, UKIP & Nigel Farage will be FINISHED *
        That’s an early gain for Vote Leave & as you can see that’s happened,
        That whole side of politics in Britain will GO.
        Once there’s democratic control of immigration policy immigration will go back to being a second or third order issue
        and that will be a very POSITIVE and healthy thing for the country.

        You guys are the educated population and you overweigh being on the opposite side to Farage.
        You think ‘Farage is on that side therefore I must be on the other side’.
        and that’s actually not a very rational way of thinking
        but it’s actually how most educated people thought about the referendum.”

        FFS
        – Cumings words show he is an Islington bubbleworld open borders man
        * His prediction about the end of Farage was completely wrong
        – He sucks up to the media elites. Is he lying to them or to us ?

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        • StewGreen says:

          UK life is driven by HATE
          but who is doing the hate and who is doing the thinking ?

          Instead of thinking libmob go for the simple option of making someone their HATE figure, and then going for the opposite of what he/she says , cos they don’t want to be on the same side as the hate figure

          They HATE British/English nationalists , so when those guys spoke up & aid action must be taken against raping gangs
          .. libmob thought in-action was best

          They HATE Farage so when he spoke up against open borders and the EU : They decided REMAIN must be the way

          They HATE Trump : so every single thing he did they took against

          They HATE themselves : so when orgs came up that attacked their own heritage like BLM and the statue smashers they sided against British culture
          That might explain why they so often side against straight white males too, and take the side of trans extremists & immigrant even when they turn out to be criminals

          They HATE people who aren’t in the green cult and label them DENIERS and rush to deny them a voice.

          They HATE the rich even though libmob are often rich
          They are into the politics of envy .. saying that if someone got wealth, ripping them down the ladder will automatically pull them up the ladder.
          But capitalism doesn’t work that way .. socialists ripping ladders down means everyone is at the bottom

          Likewise HATE is at the bottom or partygate fury, they know they could have opened up more themselves, but are jealous Downing St and even Starmer made their own decisions on risk

          They HATE Oban, the police, The Daily Mail, Murdoch etc. etc.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        MM, that supposed statement from Cummings about the EU is pure gibberish. Can we assume that what he told Kuenssberg is also complete rubbish?

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        • StewGreen says:

          Interesting the video gives no detail about the event
          and doesn’t allow comments.

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      • StewGreen says:

        OK An event sponsored by Ogilvy called ‘Nudgestock 2017’, where he explains how they managed to win the referendum,

        The event was 9th June 2017 so I don’t understand why that video was uploaded by the anti-Brexit channel ONE year later.
        @Nudgestock did upload a video on 21 June 2017 but then took it private.
        In Sept 2017 someone put up a video of the 90s that Marky is talking about https://youtu.be/gRpudEWKVwg

        See how it’ focussed on NUDGE trickery

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        • MarkyMark says:

          The Behavioural Insights team, popularly known as the “Nudge Unit”, is playing a big role in helping the government formulate its response to coronavirus.

          What is the Nudge Unit?
          The Nudge Unit was established in the Cabinet Office in 2010 by David Cameron’s government to apply behavioural science to public policy. Now owned partly by the Cabinet Office, by Nesta and by employees, it has operations across the world.

          Its chief executive is Dr David Halpern, former director of research at the Institute for Government, who is also the government’s What Works national adviser.

          Why ‘nudge’?
          It is called ‘nudge’ after the book by Richard Thaler (who went on to win the Nobel prize in economics) and Cass Sunstein which set out how people are not the rational economic actors beloved of conventional economic theory – but can be influenced by “choice architecture” into making better choices in their own interests.

          https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/nudge-unit

          but can be influenced by “choice architecture” into making better choices in their own interests

          but can be influenced by “choice architecture” into making better choices in their own interests

          but can be influenced by “choice architecture” into making better choices in their own interests

          but can be influenced by “choice architecture” into making better choices in their own interests

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  20. MarkyMark says:

    Single Market Scoreboard 2021: Member States edging forward to a better implementation of Single Market rules for a more resilient Europe

    https://www.eumonitor.eu/9353000/1/j9vvik7m1c3gyxp/vlowhh9f1wut?ctx=vg9pj7iq1swd

    Problematic sectors: environment (8 cases), including 4 on water protection & management; transport (4) = 52% of all pending cases.
    https://single-market-scoreboard.ec.europa.eu/countries/ireland_en

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  21. Guest Who says:

    Polls, BBC polls and…

    One day the media will grasp their true standing.

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  22. StewGreen says:

    1pm Local news
    #1 Hull wins magnet factor over Teesside
    “The government is providing some MONEY for this”*
    It makes rare earth magnets for offshore turbines and EVs

    #2 2 mile away people complaining about plans to expand smelly biomass centre

    #3 Private ops … people are paying..are NHS delays caused by Tories or Covid ?

    #4 Cash point helper jailed

    #5 Dover critical incident due to French backlog
    #6 Heathrow workers accept pay, Rail don’t so strikes due
    #7 Prince Harry going to court over police costs.

    * They mean granny taxpayer will be paying.

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  23. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #2 yesterday – think they may have the sixteen year olds in at the BBC …

    …. for work experience already. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62240728 The title of this article makes no sense whatsoever. Isn’t there a BBC Web-Site Editor, a BBC Web-Site Deputy Editor, a BBC Web-Site Assistant Editor and a BBC Web-Site sub-Editor to ensure that this sort of thing never happens?

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  24. tomo says:

    The BBC promoting a putrid misrepresentation of Jan 6th – it’s almost like they’re trying hard to annoy people.

    Gatvol

    filth.jpg

    Some peeps need to do jail time over this

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  25. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Sri Lanka – gone!

    BBC USA Capitol Hill … 24/7.

    The committee investigating the US Capitol riots has put the spotlight on the behaviour of former President Donald Trump as armed demonstrators invaded the seat of American democracy on 6 January 2021.

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  26. MarkyMark says:

    Islamic veil: Why fewer women in North Africa are wearing it
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-62215620
    ………………..
    Lincolnshire non-Muslim girls asked to wear hijab for a day
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-49204762
    ………………..
    Niloofar (not her real name) was arrested for demonstrating against the mandatory hijab. She says she was held in solitary confinement and subjected to torture and beatings.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-44040236
    ………………….
    Boris Johnson’s burqa comments ‘led to surge in anti-Muslim attacks’
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/02/boris-johnsons-burqa-comments-led-to-surge-in-anti-muslim-attacks
    …………………
    Saudi Arabia’s religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1874471.stm

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  27. StewGreen says:

    Belfield stuff : So far the court case has played out pretty much AB AWAYS said it would
    I paraphrase what he said 3 years ago way before this present court case was announced or hi charges~
    ‘I am a VICYIM of people spreading malicious lies about me including BBC guys like Jeremy Vine and the BBC Northamptonshire DJ
    I am being thwarted by BBC trickery to keep me shut up
    so I am not able to speak freely
    I have hundreds of things to say about BBC cheating
    but again I am not entirely free to speak
    You know there is one place where I will e able to speak freely and that is in court
    They think I am afraid to go to court, but I am not
    I will be able to tell all’

    So far everything seems to come out like he said , that the people accusing him of stalking were actually stalking him
    ie they were the ones following the 30 accounts that were set up to troll him
    On top of that they often contradicted themselves, or each other, or seemed to have very selective memories
    eg “I can’t remember that”

    The weakest part for him is the bit about the BBC Radio Leeds trans DJ
    – Earlier communications from him to her establish he was not trans-phobic cos they were sparse & supportive.
    Then she took over his old Radio Leeds slot
    and he had a special interest in that cos BBC managers had sacked him, and then kept getting in people who got much lower audiences
    So he starts to mention her in his complaint emails to BBC management ‘You have chosen this trans person to tick a box, rather than to the benefit of the licence payer’
    The BBC maintain that’s harassing her cos they showed the emails to her and that upset her
    Later Belfield does communicate directly a couple of times ‘look what you are doing the audience is falling etc.”
    Then he does put up a video against BBC Leeds management where he parodies her.
    Now he uses a mean style against everyone in his videos, but a woke-court might say trans are not equal but a special category and that being mean to a trans is a super mean crime, but being mean about Farage, Boris , Trump isn’t

    In today’s 1 hour he started by mentioning that if the BBC had answered his first question about whether the BBC Northampton DJ had sent the material to the initial troll, that would be one thing.
    but they kept refusing to confirm or deny which meant he had ask again and again
    Then they turn around and say that him asking again and again is stalking
    when their refusing to answer the question
    is the cause of him having to ask it again and again.

    Now in court the BBC DJ admitted he DID SEND that initial email to the troll, but he says that he told the police that from the beginning.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Minute 48 : Oh a huge deal was made by the anti-Belfield guys saying that Belfield’s own daily coverage would prejudice the trial
      BUT BUT the DJ has just screwed up
      paraphrased
      QC ‘You just said that Belfield sent 4,000 emails to BBC staff, but your previous written evidence said 2,000 why have you changed that ?’
      DJ ‘because someone sent me a text about what was said in court a few day ago’
      ‘But you know you are supposed to give YOUR OWN evidence and NOT look at the newspapers ?’
      ‘Yes I deleted the text straight away’

      Earlier the DJ was dramatic talking about suicide, how he found a rope , started suicide on a number of occasion but never followed through, he cries.. years ago his own boyfriend had committed suicide.
      AB’s QC sought to establish that the DJ was a depressive right from the start
      that on his very first meeting with AB when AB was 17 and he was 37 he had taken him to dinner and talked about it.
      DJ again can’t remember ever going to dinner with AB
      The QC showed that he and AB communicated often and had worked on the same station for 4 months.
      Again the testimony was contradictory saying that he wasn’t interested in AB , yet then saying there wasn’t a day when he didn’t think about him, about being very frightened by him etc.

      The DJ accepted that AB badgered cos he wanted an admission and apology.
      The DJ said he didn’t give one cos the police told him never to contact Belfield . And that the police and BBC both knew he had sent the initial email to the troll, but also declined to tell AB, until a few weeks ago.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Today’s notes from AB’s trial

        @nottspolice PC Ryan Rowe tells jury he did no investigation prior to questioning me @ home.
        BBC wanted a “civil resolution” so he closed the case April 4th 2020.
        He was given a bundle by BBC.
        1st thing I told him was “it’s a witch-hunt” he confirmed.

        Day 15 Court Report 👨‍⚖️
        Cross-Examination Notts Police PC Ryan Rowe ‘Can’t Remember Evidence’ & Didn’t Bring Pocket Book To Court For Notes.

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  28. Thoughtful says:

    Oh that much vaunted EU unity which always seems to evaporate when there is a question of national interest as we saw during covid, when the loony Red Labour fools would have given UK vaccines to the EU and also joined the EU ventilator scheme which ended with them having delivered not one single ventilator (Labour would have given them ours while not an EU member whilst other EU states didn’)

    Funny how the media wants you to forget all this. So now we’re into the next big collapse in unity. The EU is not the USA and consists of individual member states who really do put their own interests ahead of the group here.
    The EU is trying to impose on ALL members a 15% cut in natural gas consumption immediately all of them including states like Ireland which doesn’t get any gas from Russia, also Portugal and Spain neither of which have any pipeline connection for gas to the rest of Europe and are fully served by existing arrangements.

    So here we are again with Italy and Germany, possibly Holland and Belgium short of gas because of the Nordstream situation and, the entire EU is being asked to make needless sacrifice which won’t actually make any difference to the EU energy woes. Thank goodness we are not members and thank goodness Red Labour are not in power or those loons would be offering every bit of gas we might have to the Germans who would take it with gratitude and then laugh their heads off at our rank stupidity.

    None of it in the pro EU news of course, but it should be.

    https://jnews.uk/eu-solidarity-frays-as-some-member-states-question-plans-to-slash-gas-use/

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Isn’t it strange how often the UK echoes the US . There they are trying to bury president trump – here the socialist queer in his underpants running some ‘committee ‘ is after nut nut for lieing – to get him to lose his seat ….
      The sheer hatred of the left is sometimes frightening – see the totalitarian SNP for more information ,…

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  29. Up2snuff says:

    BBC RADIO 4 Watch (ie. TOADY&TWatO combined) #1 – I have lost count of how many weeks it has been …

    ….. but it was noticeable that it almost coincided with the start of the final attempt to unseat Boris Johnson as PM. Is it six or seven weeks or longer? May 29th – Sunday – Jonny Dymond fired the starting pistol for the BBC’s campaign to get us back in the EU on TWotWeeee. This morning, TOADY were in on the act talking about the EU’s ‘Horizon Project’ so I switched off in annoyance and somehow, carelessly maybe, forgot to switch back on. Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

    Ed Stourton, caretaking TWatO for the Montacutie who doesn’t like or do Fridays, had an item on the massive queues for the Chunnel and ferries to cross the channel to France. All blamed on the Frenchies. Cost of living crisis? What crisis? Does the Sun newspaper still do £10 Cross Channel Ferry Tickets? The tank load of petrol would cost a fortune though.

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  30. Fedup2 says:

    Up2
    There is bit of a disconnect between stories of crowds at ports off on their foreign hols then empty foodbanks and getting dumped food …
    Two different tunes played at the same time …

    I put a bet on myself about credit card trouble and people having to use cash only …. Trouble on line …

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  31. Guest Who says:

    This BBC post is… now very BBC. And getting the responses it deserves.

    Appropriate given the newsroom seems to be staffed by kindergardeners.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Luckily Sky is a voice of re… oh…

      We had a few days of hot summer.

      Today, here, it is tipping down and 20 degrees. In July.

      A world run by media blondes, Sadiq Khan and Carrie is in a dodgy place.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Nick Robinson up all night checking claims?

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    • tomo says:

      kindergardeners too stupid to work at a fast food joint?

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  32. Guest Who says:

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  33. Guest Who says:

    Luckily, the bbc has been allowed only to promote what they have settled.

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  34. Guest Who says:

    The media.

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  35. StewGreen says:

    BBC & ITV local news both act as PR agencies for any green dream project
    so tonight gave fawning coverage to Kwasi Kwarteng turning the soil at the Saltend Hull rate-earth metal
    plant

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    • StewGreen says:

      Neither mentioned the “£140m project creating 126 jobs”
      is only happening cos it’s getting millions from the ATF Automotive Transformation Fund.
      Plus words in the reports contradicted reality.

      … I checked on Twitter and 1 person tweets the sceptical FT story which raises a whole series of concerns
      “Experts cast doubts over UK’s first rare earths processing site”
      https://www.ft.com/content/1ccd480b-4926-45ca-b70a-bd8ba3058d10

      The project is really a smelter for ores containing radioactive thorium brought from Angola
      when it’s finished the plant will then export the metal to Japan and Korea cos the UK has no magnet factories
      A commenter says Korea has a new rare earth processing plant already in Ochang.

      Other commenters claim the FTs experts are funded by China.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Always intrigued when a sponsored media ad comes my way.

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        • tomo says:

          If there’s one thing I know for certain it’s that most of the parasites working for StatOil don’t have a scooby about carbon capture & storage

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        • StewGreen says:

          Equinor the new name for Norwegian national oil corp Statoil
          They back a number oil green initiatives like Carbon capture (currently economically unviable)
          By shear coincidence they also got UK ATF grant money for their HYDROGEN project also at Saltend, Hull

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  36. StewGreen says:

    “Russia is fighting a gas war. It has restarted the Nord Stream 1 pipeline supplies to Europe but not to full capacity.”

    “The Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline from Russia to Europe has restarted after a 10-day break.”

    Has the BBC mentioned that ?
    Yes but no one noticed
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62249015

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    • tomo says:

      They Ivans must have had a laugh at the reaction of Berlin politicians to the pipe being shut off !

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  37. pugnazious says:

    Reeally?

    ”Compulsive’ stalker who has been ‘fixated’ with ex-BBC Newsnight presenter Emily Maitlis since meeting her at university 30 years ago ‘

    Careful what you wish for!

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  38. Guest Who says:

    Long time in Asia. Never went there.

    Everyone I knew who did had to barricade the plane bogs back.

       5 likes

    • tomo says:

      I know somebody (eejit) who did that – amoebic dysentery and a near death hepatitis

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Yeah – I pal of mine tried to save somebody by diving into the Thames at Beckton – hepatitis …

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  39. Guest Who says:

    Amazingly , he seems to be a media type.

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    • Guest Who says:

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      • tomo says:

        This is DELIBERATE

        – and none of the MSM seem to want to acknowledge that and look at the proximate cause.

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  40. tomo says:

    Try to cut a political candidates throat and free less than 12 hours later with no bail.

    That sends a message to *every nut job* out there …

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  41. Fedup2 says:

    It feels like the country is going on holiday – but some of us will still be around moaning and a groaning – so time for the Happy Holiday Thread

    Why not contribute if you are stuck at Dover – or on the m1 , m6, m45 , Lake District – an airport …..

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  42. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #3 – the BBC: do as we say, not as we do.

    BBC CO2 emissions are often needless: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/16MSksBj8jyRfQD8Yfnsqh0/radio-1-listeners-are-helping-greg-james-solve-a-giant-jigsaw-puzzle-live-updates Brighton to Birmingham, Birmingham to Sheffield, Sheffield to Coventry, Exeter to Brighton, Brighton to Glasgow and lots, lots more including air travel from Lands End to Exeter.

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