294 Responses to Weekend 17 December 2022

  1. tomo says:

    CCTV footage of Jan 6th disturbances in Washington is still being withheld.

    People are still incarcerated in deliberately poor jail conditions with restricted access to their lawyers and have yet to get proper court appearances – and now we discover that there was a large operation across Twitter, YouTube, Facebook et al to suppress mobile phone camera footage of events that day.

    The BBC’s troupes of propagandists repeatedly spew lies and grotesque, distorted tales about events and the aftermath.

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  2. Concrete sea says:

    Another completely pointless offering from the Beeb. ā€˜How family unity has helped Kylian Mbappe, (black French footballer from -I knew youā€™d ask- Paris) to stardomā€™.
    I strongly suspect this was written by an idiot or a child. Effectively he became a good (hardly great yet as he is quite young) footballer because his family seemed to live together and he had a relatively normal life, like kicking a ball around. How very odd. Still if itā€™s as simple as that and you want your children to achieve greatness just donā€™t divorce your wife or vice versa. How wonderful it would have been if only he had two fathers or mothers, with some sort of religious leaning. Virtually all diversity boxes would have been ticked, but we canā€™t have it all. Next week we will have ā€˜How free school dinners helped Marcus Rashford rediscover his formā€™, or has that already been done ?

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  3. Zephir says:

    God the bbc Lineker w@nkfest over Messi is sickening

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  4. MarkyMark says:

    Credit Suisse caught trying to shred evidence of loans to Russian oligarchs backed by superyachts and private jets
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    Christiaan Hetzner
    March 2, 2022Ā·2 min read

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/credit-suisse-caught-trying-shred-131208154.html

    Credit Suisse once again seems to be doing its level best to cement its reputation as Europeā€™s most scandal-plagued bank.

    According to reports in the Financial Times, the Swiss credit institute has quietly been offloading risks from its exposure to U.S.-sanctioned Russian oligarchs, after this group was responsible in 2017 and 2018 for a third of the defaults on yacht and private jet loans the bank extended.

    Hedge funds and other investors that bought securitized portfolios of these deals, backed by the ultra-luxury status items, were asked in a letter this week to ā€œdestroy and permanently eraseā€ any evidence of the transaction, the paper reported.

    ā€œI donā€™t think weā€™ve ever had a request like this,ā€ it quoted one investor, who received the letter.

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  5. Fedup2 says:

    Personal comment

    I would like to thank the troll who occasionally graces us with non relevant cut and pastes . He indirectly provided a tip for a race at Wolverhampton Sunday afternoon with ā€˜my boy maxā€™ which came in at a generous 33/1 ā€¦ cheers ā€¦

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  6. Zephir says:

    If Argentina are so good why do they need to fall over clutching their faces every five minutes?

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    • StewGreen says:

      That’s what kickball is all about
      Don’t you get points for
      #1 Diving and acting
      #2 Pulling the shirts of your opposition
      ?
      It seems to be a big part of the game
      that’s played by millionaire cheats

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  7. Zephir says:

    Messi f@ck up leads to France goal

    2 goals in 90 seconds

    Suck that up Lineker / bbc

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    • Sluff says:

      The full time punditry will be interesting.
      After 80 minutes of ā€˜Argentina are playing well and France haven’t showed upā€™ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦..itā€™s 2-2!
      And France are on the up.

      Get ready for major memory lapses and revisions.

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  8. Guest Who says:

    Jez has activated the outrage army. He has an odd sense of humour and can sail too close to the edge, so worth checking context first.

    Meanwhileā€¦.

    Canā€™t wait for Nish and Frankie to mount that horse.

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  9. Guest Who says:

    Le celebration des voitures chaud.

    Femi may yet turn me.

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  10. MarkyMark says:

    f6a3e1ae-5984-48dd-8fe4-cb0a5368b71b-b0eddb5b-b33e-4d98-8681-2dfbe8923729

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  11. Guest Who says:

    When Wendy handed the keys over to Springster to work his bbc magic in the US, could either have imagined how their unique form of BBC transparency would evolve, career wise?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Start of that conversation
      Ian Miles Cheong

      Hey @elonmusk
      No oneā€™s really brought this up to you yet but itā€™s worth mentioning that numerous conservatives are on widely shared blocklists used by the far left.
      This could cause many on the right to have their voices suppressed.

      The thread then instantly brings up the @Esqueer _ account that blocks so many including me, even though I’ve never interacted with it
      It seems trans=activist accounts often scan to see if people have like a pro-woman tweet, and then block them just for that

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  12. MarkyMark says:

    42c85f62-4bbb-4aff-b15a-100d5034d7aa-c17042cc-ac4e-4b0e-ab81-41438d2ee25f

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  13. pugnazious says:

    The BBC once again using the ‘looney and dangerous conspiracy theorists’ label to discredit a true story…Oxfordshire County Council are locking down traffic to save the environment and the climate….

    ‘This will help us deliver an affordable, sustainable and inclusive transport system that enables the county to thrive whilst protecting the environment and making Oxfordshire a better place to live for all residents.

    Traffic filters are an important tool to achieve this in Oxford. The proposed traffic filters will reduce traffic levels across the city. They will:

    make walking and cycling safer and more attractive.
    make bus journeys quicker and more reliable.
    enable new and improved bus routes.
    support investment in modern buses
    help tackle climate change, reduce local air pollution and improve the health and wellbeing of our communities.

    The BBC portrays those criticising the scheme as dangerous conspiracy theorists…note the ‘false’….which is false in itself….

    ‘False climate lockdown claims in Oxford lead to death threats’#

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-64001776

    ‘False claims that a lockdown to help fight climate change could soon be enforced in Oxford have spread on social media. Residents are confused and local politicians have received a torrent of abuse as a result.

    After the news broke, a number of fringe media outlets began describing the initiative as an effective “climate lockdown”.

    They also wrongly suggested that, through the use of permits, the council was being given powers to decide who gets to travel around the city.

    “It’s not a lockdown,” said Liz Leffman, leader of Oxfordshire County Council. “People are going to be free to travel around, just as they are at the moment.” ‘

    Erm….no, no they’re not….they can’t use their cars ‘just as they are at the moment’.

    LOL….BBC linking it to ‘mad conspiracies about covid and vaccines’….

    ‘The BBC has seen evidence that protests against the supposed “climate lockdown” in Oxford are being planned in 2023. Promotional material has been shared online by groups known for spreading conspiracy theories, including about Covid-19 and vaccines. ‘

    Except of course many of those ‘conspiracy theories’ were well founded and justified….but the BBC demonised anyone, as it’s doing now, who dared to raise concerns.

    This is the BBC taking sides and deciding for itself what will be ‘true’ and what is ‘false’…just as Twitter did….and we all know now, if not before, how Twitter banned people purely on political or ideological grounds…and we know that the BBC is not interested in Twitter banning right-wing people but suddenly when lefty journos get banned it’s an outrage.

    From Spiked….

    ‘Oh, so now you care about Big Tech censorship?’

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/12/18/oh-so-now-you-care-about-big-tech-censorship/

    Trump never said anything to incite riots or violate Twitter’s rules…

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    • Guest Who says:

      VD is served.

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  14. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile, another BBC juvenile breaks the omertĆ  rule and pays a steep price.

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    • pugnazious says:

      Yep….classic BBC trick….mention an issue on programmes that get few views and then claim ‘We’ve covered it!’…..compare that to their vast and omnipresent highly critical coverage, erm, hatchet jobs, of Facebook and ‘social media’ which gets discussed great prominence across the BBC throughout the day and figures loudly in news bulletins…but the narrative is always from a lefty-woke perspective and interpretation….and often just plain misinformation as with the BBC’s torrent of lies claiming Cambridge Analytica ‘stole Brexit’ when CA had nothing whatsoever to do with the referendum.

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  15. Zephir says:

    Referee spots the latest Argentinian “hand of God” this time

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  16. Guest Who says:

    Makes AOC seem box office gold and Springster Pulitzerworthy.

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  17. Guest Who says:

    There, but for the grace of compelled unique fundingā€¦.

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  18. Guest Who says:

    A well paid one. With rubber gloves.

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  19. Philip_2 says:

    Clap for the BBC diversity unit this Christmas! Reading in the Daily Mail earlier in December (9th) a small paper cutting about the generosity of the BBC, (which many of us witness each year) to favored BBC ‘fav’ presenters. So many who have since retired, and been ‘replaced’ with more ‘diverse’ opinions (like the last batch all move on to new pastures (LBC or Channel 4).

    There have been a few ‘pros’ over the years struggling to walk with pants (or handbags) stuffed with cash – for a minor slot on the BBC mega corporate game of TV and radio monopoly.

    The TV license is the BBC own private National Lottery. Except they (BBC) pick ALL the winning numbers and they get to distribute the ‘cash’ to themselves each year. Its a mugs game. So what the attraction? Surely they are not ALL mugs, but hopeful chancers?

    If you tickle the BBC’s fancy, the sky’s the limit in earnings potential (BBC Worldwide is where the serious money is now made). BBC Limited for the ‘staffers’ fighting over in-house job placements (on who get the jam this week). Black and Gay presenters being squeezed out in place of new white ‘trans’ BBC sponsored staffers on mainstream BBC game shows. After all they are in competition with Channel 4 – who set the current media standards for these days of being ‘trendy’. The BBC is no more the ‘trendsetter’ it once was.

    So I learn two weeks ago (going back to my Daily Mail news clipping), rich earnings can be made for even minor ‘known’ celebs – seeking the British Diversity scheme [press button here]. I call Romesh Ranganathan to the stand as he only earning a meagre Ā£324,000 a year doing advertising TV endorsement for a bank. But has won the national lottery at the BBC. (read on). Who could believe his luck!

    Working for the BBC is very profitable. On the nod, you set up your own TV production (as you can) supplying the BBC – (like Richard Attenborough) and call it something like ‘Avoidance’ trying hard not to avoid paying UK Tax (as used to be advised by the BBC, set up your own production company and make your own BBC show. Many (so called) comedians die a death at the BBC and are unemployable outside the BBC. Its risky being called ‘funny’ at the BBC. So its a huge risk.

    So I have to agree with Romash, that charging Ā£1.6 million for a series of 12 shows at the BBC is astonishing good value!!! Even when your hard up – (or even if your well off, as most already are). As the BBC has plenty of money for hand-picked public performers, (of varying performance). BBC Perversions are always good laugh at BBC towers, Climate change (we have never had it so HOT(!!!), during the Winter cold snap is currently ‘on-hold’ until the spring), don’t mention any BBC funding (Millions Euros) the BBC used to obtain from the EU for propaganda ‘services’ (which was worth a joke or two at the time), Bill Gates (same) and SOROS (via another angle). And ROMASH don’t mention BREXIT as being ‘democratic or freedom (unless its perversions)’ – just make a lame joke on every BBC aired TV and radio show at every opportunity.

    (Full staff BBC diversity training provided). Never admit your wrong. The BBC will ensure any public protest is never ‘aired’ – unless challenged OFCOM in which case that will be buried under ‘BBC Complaints’. BBC complaints is a way the BBC measures continued ‘success’.
    .
    So another BBC Ā£ millionaire is made. And that is the new template for the BBC and why it has two separate legal entities. The TV license goes to the BBC direct and BBC Worldwide commissions the programs rather like the NHS nurses who can make two- to three times more at the same hospital (the BBC is like a Hospital for the insane), than you make as NHS staff). So I agree with the former DG of the BBC who claimed that the BBC is as vital as the NHS during lockdown. That is why any BBC comedian has to agree to another lockdown as it benefits the BBC (somehow), that and COVID. The BBC is a public monopoly that is being eroded over time. Another Labour government will ensure it never ever changes to being ‘profitable’. It is inclined to spend everything its got – just to stay ‘afloat’.

    So working for the BBC is quite a laugh! As long as you don’t die….

    I wish you all a Happy Christmas (even if its been cancelled by the BBC), a class struggle of the ruling class continues. So Romash may find it difficult pleasing the BBC editors who are all Trots and managed by wet liberals agonising on ā€˜climate changeā€™ and its ā€˜enforcementā€™.

    So Romash, a comedy in the making, but not that funny. But at least you will be a millionaire. But they all are ā€“ at the BBC, they are so ‘full’ of ‘talent’ – indeed they told us so repeatedly, even under police investigation, ‘full-of-talent’.

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  20. Guest Who says:

    BBC Politics, Newsnight and QT in a bidding war?

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    • StewGreen says:

      “Nurses are fighting for an extra Ā£1 or Ā£2” claims Gary Neville there
      Gaslighting : they are well paid workers asking for at least Ā£5,000+ extra
      Though many of their concerns about NHS management may be legitimate
      ..bad planning can make nurses work very stressful.

      Ofcom is supposed to ensure an equal opposite opinion is aired, don’t hold your breath.

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    • StewGreen says:

      It was Lee Anderson the Tory MP who pointed out the pundits politicking
      So now Neville tweets back at him..rudely

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Countryfile
    Double Indian so far : smug Anita Rani is presenting with John Craven
    The cooking segment is with Romy Gill MBE (British/Indian chef, food writer)
    She has chosen 3 white girls and a boy called Adnan to make Xmas food with her.
    (They make them eat chilli even tho they say they don’t like it)

    – Adam Henson is on the trail of rogue mistletoe.
    – Tom Heap looks at *social eating* and how it might be the answer to food poverty, social isolation and food waste
    – Charlotte Smith finds out how our farmers are getting a raw deal for the produce they put on our plates.

    “Here’s the stuff we are flogging for Children In Need”
    ..Very socialist.

    Bloody plinky plonk brainwashing music as well.
    Heap just claimed 2 million tonnes of food is thrown away ..such claims rarely check out
    eg they include potato skins, pumpkin skins, bones etc.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Now contrived pushing of their Countryfile Calendar which is made in some sweatshop for 20p
      and sold by them for Ā£10
      “we give Ā£4.75 to Children In Need from each sale”

      Now they are serving Christmas Samosas.
      Not much time was given to other Christmas food,

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  22. taffman says:

    Seven years ago the Tory Pledge.
    “Prime Minister pledges to control and reduce immigration”
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-pledges-to-control-and-reduce-immigration
    Who on this site is still supporting them ?

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  23. Fedup2 says:

    Thereā€™s a few left Taffman – but not me – they are Blue Labour – cannot be trusted – and deserve oblivion ā€¦.

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  24. Nibor says:

    BBC Radio 4 five o clock ; Whatā€™s a Tory ?

    The title should be We ,the BBC Say Brexit Is Bad For The Tory Party .

    A non in depth analysis of the troubles in the Conservative Party for half an hour . I can tell them in five minutes. Itā€™s :

    The Conservative Party is the stupid party . Here are the examples ;

    Immigration
    Both legal and illegal . Bogus asylum seekers.
    The Tories do all the talk but then back down . They donā€™t stop this problem . They are afraid of human rights lawyers , beaurocrats in the EU , the UN and sundry others around the world , our civil servants, pressure group set al .
    Problem not solved, votes lost .

    Green issues.
    Afraid of rabid environmentalists. Could at least put these green issues on hold until we are out of the recession, cut the green levy on household bills , open coal mines at least temporarily, get fracking , make us self sufficient.
    Making a problem, votes lost .

    Unaccountable (busy) bodies , such as the judiciary laying the law down to government.
    Afraid of them . Allow Tory policies to be watered down or dismissed
    Votes lost .

    The BBC ,
    Allow this Gramscian riddled organisation to set the debate , what and who counts , to ridicule the vast majority of the country and let it deviously to undermine the Conservatives!
    And then try to make the very people it hates , normal people , pay for it .
    Instead of taking this nasty organisation on , reforming it , make it accountable, the Tories are afraid of it , thus by its propaganda votes are lost .

    The Tories are more worried about international organisations that canā€™t vote for them , or the types here like university lecturers, Socialist Worker types , BBC employees etc who would never vote for them than they are over the average Joe who could and would vote for them if they stopped being stupid.

    Tory politicians need to spend less time at the BBC studios on Question Time with that particular audience of clapping seals and whooping and hollering over every cliched Marxist slogan and more time with ordinary people- the voters .

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    • StewGreen says:

      The Tory MPs live in the same dinner party circuit as BBC honchos
      are often married to BBC staff
      .. That circuit is way away from the normal people.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      Immigration: I’d argue the Conservatives donā€™t stop this problem, because to them it’s not a problem – it’s a desirable state.
      They’re not afraid of human rights lawyers etc, rather they use them as an excuse to continue with the influx.
      Unfortunately they have zero fear of the voters.

      Ditto green issues, Conservatives and environmentalists , are both on the same page, one for control, the other some barmy science.

      The Conservative Party is the stupid party?

      That was Therssa Mays mask, look weak and daft- being endlessly bullied by lawyers and the EU.
      “She’s trying her best, but is so soft..”
      When all the while she was on the globalist team (just like EU)
      They don’t give a monkeys about the voters, they’re just out to further the globalists agenda.

      A benevolent dictator atop a tank, is the only solution I can see.

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  25. StewGreen says:

    Advert comes on
    “Orcas are killed by plastic pollutants
    .. donate to save the orca”

    Interesting the ad didn’t use the normal name “KILLER whales”
    They are apex predators who kill other animals, not just for food
    but often for fun
    I don’t think they desperately need saving

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  26. The Mouse says:

    Eddy,

    I agree and have watched for many years this party (I’d hate to have to call them Tories) stick up as many straw men as they can come up with –

    1. We’ll send them to Rwanda (They knew they had no chance)
    2. We’ll pay the French more (knowing full well they might see a slight improvement in the short term thus appeasing the electorate), but knowing it would return or worsen in the medium term.
    3. We will send them back from where they came – but, but the human rights lawyers are stopping us.
    4. We are a party of law and order and if we keep saying it then people might think we are.
    5. We’ll stop a few dozen protesters from stopping thousands getting to work, hospital appointments, etc by saying they will be locked up – instead of using strong armed tactics there and then to immediately deal with it (please see how the French deal with it).
    6. We won’t discuss leaving the ECHR or replacing these rights with our own rights as this would be progress, better to just tell stupid Joe Public we are working on the problem (with help from our civil servants = the enemy within) and it will get better, and the can goes is kicked further down the road yet again.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Yes – the old line about ā€˜when can you tell a politician is lieing ?ā€ when they are speaking ā€˜ truly applies to the Blue Labour Party –
      Whether it is Priti patel or the current incarnation of a ā€˜Home Secretary ā€˜- lots not tough hot air but no real action . Than more lies ā€¦.
      ā€¦.-at least with Red labour you know you are getting socialist vermin – but the current lot pretending to be something else is more offensive .

      Time for the new thread ā€¦

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  27. StewGreen says:

    On R4 now : episode 3 of the BBC series celebrating the 100 year history of the COMMUNIST PARTY in the UK~
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001f5fv

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  28. tomo says:

    Satire taken out of context …

    top reply imho:

    Change her name to Boris Johnson and watch the same people who are offended, applaud it.šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

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  29. tomo says:

    Cutting Russian gas pipelines was such a good idea….

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  30. tomo says:

    elasewhere

    I sense that Joe Biden needs some reinforcements to replace the suspended (fired?) Sam Brinton

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  31. tomo says:

    New Twitter CEO announced

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  32. tomo says:

    bizarre

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  33. tomo says:

    looks like fingers in the ears+la-la-la in la Sringsta’s cubicle

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