297 Responses to Midweek 12 April 2023

  1. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Housing the channel crossers.

    With so many civil servants ‘working’ from home and with them having a 38% increase in being off sick we have lots of buildings full of empty office rooms.

    Time to put the boat people into these empty places instead of hotels and barges.


    • harry142857 says:

      Move the 140,000 indigenous people from the Isle of Wight and put them there. Build a 20′ fence or wall round the coast, and patrol it with gunboats to shoot any escapees.
      They can grow their own food or starve and block any Wi-Fi. Since the BBC believe that the illegals are doctors, architects and engineers they can fend for themselves.


      • Deborah says:

        German Jewish refugees at the onset of war were interned on the Isle of Man. The young internees received some of the best education possible. The judges, the doctors, the engineers etc organised themselves into teachers and realised the young people had to be ready for their lives in a new country. What the internees didn’t do, was wait for a chunk of government money and British people to organise them.


        • R P McMurphy says:

          My aunt arrived here on the Kindertransport, on her sixteenth birthday she joined the British army as an interpreter.


  2. digg says:

    This government needs to realise that they really are at war with the Unions because the Labour Party are such a weak and unrealistic option.

    The junior doctors strike is the epitome of this movement led by rabid union chieftains.

    The end game is to destroy the Tory government, pay levels etc are just a fudge.

    Junior doctors are in effect university level and mostly left wing sympathising learners trying to pretend they are fully fledged specialists. They are in some respects like apprentices of bygone years who needed to accept lower levels of pay while they learned how to become professionals and thus command higher salaries.

    They are much more concentrated on destroying the government than achieving a fair pay deal. Most will go on to careers with pay levels and pensions that most people in this country can only dream of which makes them particularly churlish.

    Their lies and childish posturing makes me sick to my stomach!


  3. Nibor says:

    The BBC believes it is is it is a great organisation to project ” soft power ” in the world .
    Power to do what I ask ?


  4. taffman says:

    To screw us for more money.


  5. JohnC says:

    Black ‘victim’ of private hotel dress-code policy.
    BBC Front page UK news

    The Ritz London applicant told ‘Afro-style’ hair was banned

    ‘A job applicant said he received a “disingenuous and lacklustre” apology from The Ritz after he was told that “Afro-style” hair was banned among staff at the exclusive London hotel.’

    Black murderer stabs someone on the street:
    BBC buried in regions and nowhere to be seen unless you go looking:

    Teenager killed in stabbing in Chingford
    (I’m assuming he is black or Asian because as usual they won’t tell us – but experience tells us it is by far the most likely when they keep it quiet)

    The first agenda article brought to you by:


    THAT is the BBC for you. A complete and utter joke. Why on earth should we be forced to fund a left-wing activist organisation ?.

    Perhaps if that hairstyle was not so associated with vastly disproportionate crime and murder, the customers at these posh hotels wouldn’t be put off by it.

    But the BBC will never go there.


  6. Richard Pinder says:

    From America. The Jimmy Dore Show. Jimmy Dore says “The BBC is one of the worst neo-Liberal trash things, its horrible”. He shows clips from BBC Look North which has finally given in to pressure from vaccine-injured individuals, their families, doctors and activists who have been trying to draw public attention to those who were injured as a result of the COVID-19 vaccines.

    Near me, protests outside BBC Look North, Queen’s Court, Hull on January 7th. Protesters covered the windows of the building with placards and stickers containing the photos of people who died as a result of the COVID-19 vaccines. Many viewers gave BBC presenter Peter Levy a hard time, as he is known to live in a flat somewhere near the Hull Marina.

    News of the BBC from Bobby Kennedy Jnr’s Childrens Health Defence Website: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/bbc-astrazeneca-vaccine-injuries-lawsuit/?itm_term=home


    • Fedup2 says:

      The BBCOFCOM / Matthew sweet action again Steyn is getting weaker by the day …. I hope he doesn’t settle …


  7. Richard Pinder says:

    GB News ratings slide continues. Nigel Farage’s last three shows have had their successively worst ratings since Steyn’s departure, sliding on Monday to 35,600 viewers, followed by the Jacob Rees-Mogg Show which fell to 14,300 viewers bequeath to Dan Wooton. OFCOM only allows GB News to criticise Prince Harry and the Woke agenda, but not news about war, protests, deaths and injury. So only long repetitive stories about perverted sex and perverted people, with boring guests, are allowed by OFCOM. The only presenters who invite interesting guests and are worth watching, Laurence Fox and Neil Oliver are reduced to one hour a week. The paradox for GB News is that the less viewers a presenter gets, the more time they are given. For instance, Patrick Christys has (with at least a one hour stand in for others) at least 16 hours airtime this week, despite an audience of only 300 people recorded for his Monday Show. The Laurence Fox Show was reduced to one hour because he upset OFCOM by talking to Andrew Bridgen and using a robotic voice when forced to say the mRNA jab was “Safe & Effective”. The Neil Oliver Show was reduced to one hour a week because OFCOM does not like his opinions and his guests, which include lots of scientists not approved by the government.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Thank you for the update . It is both sad and inevitable and I am sort of glad that I am not alone in dumping GBNews . As soon as they dumped Steyn and the others on the high moral step said and did nothing about it I knew it was right to dump it .
      The kidults such Christys – a sort of younger version of Vine – are just awful – the Scot’s bloke – hot air and ego – Farage -see ‘yesterday ‘ – mogg hypocrite . The good broadcasters got fired and left the dross .
      I won’t blame BBCOFFCOM – the owners self harmed .

      At least with no one watching the advertisers need not bother

      Maybe next time we will get a different and ‘right ‘ broadcaster but in the Undemocratic lefty One Party State that Britain has become I won’t see it happen …


    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      Numbers have been sliding on this site for quite some time. It has always been my top source of news and debate.
      Does this mean we should drop it? Fewer people are contributing and a lot of what is posted now is repetitive. The BBC is still there spewing forth its propaganda.
      What should we do?


    • Doublethinker says:

      Where do you get you figures from? Are they from BARB ? If so they are likely wrong because BARB have around only 30,000 homes across the country fitted with TV monitoring devices which can identify which programme is being watched. They then use this relatively small sample to extrapolate to a country wide audience.
      Firstly, the choice of homes to which they have fitted devices may not be representative of all homes across the country . Secondly, extrapolating from such a small sample size , particularly for small audiences , can be highly erroneous.


  8. Fedup2 says:

    Excellent news

    The visit of the false president to Ireland looks like being a washout

    Hydrocarbon use has year across the world went up

    Elon musk gave an interview to the Government Funded BBC – but not the kidult fact / lie girl .

    How much NHS doctors really get paid is becoming more public – and they still want a 35% tax payer funded pay rise …


    • Guest Who says:

      There’s desperate, and there’s…

      Musk Talks To The BBC

      News Daily

      Fiona Nimoni
      12 April 2023
      Twitter boss Elon Musk gave a last-minute interview to the BBC this morning and US President Joe Biden is gearing up to make a speech in Belfast today after landing in the city late last night. Help for parents of babies who cry excessively is being made available.

      Elon Musk sits down for interview
      Elon Musk gives last-minute interview to BBC

      Elon Musk unexpectedly agreed to a last-minute interview with our correspondent James Clayton at Twitter HQ this morning… and the discussion did not disappoint. From revealing who the real CEO of Twitter is, to debating the labelling of the BBC’s Twitter account as “government funded media”, Musk was happy to answer questions – but it’s safe to say there was some tension between the Twitter boss and our correspondent. Musk said he was interviewing our correspondent as much as the other way around. He was taking part in an interview on Twitter Spaces, which attracted more than three million listeners. On running the social media platform, Musk said the process has been “quite painful” and “a rollercoaster”.

      Follow the live reaction to Musk’s interview

      Watch: Elon Musk on the BBC row

      See what he had to say


      That has to hurt in the DU’h unit office.

      Safe to say there is some tension?

      Meanwhile, their man Sleepy…

      Another bimbo:

      And their audience.

      But at least he brought Hunter. Probs to do an arms deal with the IRA.

      And… ‘live reaction’? Other than pitying the BBC even more?


      • Guest Who says:

        BBC NA raking in the numbers though.


        • Guest Who says:


          They can’t even sling mud right.

          Buea Pikin

          I listened to it, and the BBC journalist came unprepared. He said something like there’s now an increase of hateful content on his feed. When Elon asked him to give an example, he couldn’t. He just wriggled his way out by saying he had not used the account for a long time.

          So… a lot of ‘sources who say’ in the edit?


          • Guest Who says:

            Blimey, even Springster gets a mensch.

            Not, perhaps, in a good way.


            • Guest Who says:

              BBC. The only entity confident it will be fine if, when in hole… keeps digging.

              More #Ccbgb

              How bizarre.


              • Guest Who says:

                With the BBC, it’s not the interview that matters, but the edit.

                Keep digging, guys and gals.


                • Guest Who says:

                  Yup. Brought in the JCB, plus a #BBCquote

                  They are beyond help.


                  • Guest Who says:

                    Going well for Team BBC.


                  • StewGreen says:

                    “a last-minute interview”
                    No it wasn’t
                    I quoted Clayton’s words below


        • Scroblene says:

          Joke just now on LBC – yes I do listen when I’m in the greenhouse, even if it’s someone I don’t agree with…

          “Joe biden’s brought Hunter over, not for any diplomatic reason, just so he can be in on the ‘craic’…”


    • Scroblene says:

      And here we read that the arch-leftie prick-merchant has piddled off to his hols while the rest of them stay in bed, instead of saving a few lives…


      I’d hate to think what he would do if he was faced with a patient who was clearly of the normal Conservative persuasion! Does the hypocratic oath cover political posturing?


      • Guest Who says:

        Doc Rosena there to cover?

        No longer a junior now, surely?

        Albeit juggling MP and tv duty still.


  9. Foscari says:

    I and others have written about this before , but nothing
    changes, The BBC is a RACIST organization !
    During the cost of living crisis and in fact on any UK
    public interest feature, they NEVER show an image of
    a white male. Getty’s who supply them may use around
    10% white female models. BUT 0% white male models.
    If this isn’t racism . Or at the very least inverted racism,
    what is?


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Ethnic cleansing by other means, plus possible evidence of genocidal intent as implied by Articles III and IV of the 1948 United Nations Genocide Convention? The Convention defined genocide as “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.”


  10. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile, BBC fave Rancher Hasan…

    Why do they only employ or bring in guest worms?


  11. Fedup2 says:

    The IRA tried to kill a Northern Ireland chief inspector a few weeks ago . Twice now on the BBC they have referred to him as ‘ dead ‘ and twice they have had to apologise and say he was ‘seriously hurt ‘

    Was it wishful thinking on the BBC part ? Do they secretly want the IRA to get back to killing ? I do wonder ….

    Meanwhile – as i write Paddy O biden is being medicated and tested to see how the dementia is today . Its obscene that an old man should be pushed around the world by obama … therell be no press comments or off the cuff comments ..


    • Scroblene says:

      I’m surprised Barry isn’t there with him, as he claims to identify with so many other coutries, he might just as well include Ireland!

      Biden’s sure to make an absolute arse of himself over there, so we’ll see the BBC doing some sort of appraisal normally attributed to the dumb version of the eurovision song contest on ice, with subtitles in pidgin nigerian.


  12. AsISeeIt says:

    Line must go up in the ‘i’ girls (or, don’t worry, she’s a voter) edition

    I don’t know about you but the IMF forecast for UK GDP isn’t of prime personal concern. Well, I guess I’m neither desperate to bash Brexit, keen to justify open borders for big corporations to access cheap labour, or looking to diss the Tories on the economy.

    Line must go up – as they say.

    Apparently this no doubt computer-modelled future guestimation produced by some superanational outfit is quite a big deal for the left-leaning younger demographic audience of the formerly highly coronaphobic doom-mongering ‘i’ newspaper. Because here it is on their flashy colourful frontpage: World economy in peril – as UK heads for worst growth in G7

    The ‘i’ is something of a favourite with BBC online press review pickers lately – often figuring in their top three titles. And don’t tell me their ordering is random – not when the jokey Daily Star invariably brings up the rear in the BBC’s and finally spot. Don’t tell me that’s just happenstance: AI will terminate footie managers within ten years… Well, technology has worked SO well with VAR so far (Daily Star)

    From such pithy sensible sceptical journalistic insights… back to the ‘i’ newspaper

    House-style on the ‘i’ frontpage is busy, cheerful (in graphic style not message) and brash but phaseology is doom cultish: grim IMF forecast; What you need to know about ‘Forever Chemicals’; Toxic culture at CBI; ‘worrying signs’

    There’s little doubt as to the political slant: Biden flies in with pledge to ‘keep the peace’; Patrick Cockburn: US visit will expose DUP’s intransigence – and Brexiteer’s folly; Majority of Tory voters want more social housing; Starmer team ‘makes no apologies’ for attack ad – quick recap… pro-US Democrats; anti-Unionist; anti-Brexit; pro-expansion of welfare state; pro-Labour… phew!

    There’s a rather telling Technology feature teased on the frontpage that’s headlined: I went cold turkey to quit my phone addiction – the casual reference to drug culture hints that the ‘i’ is down with the kids but the target demographic becomes obvious with the associated photo of a young (20-ish) girl. To borrow a rather dubious phrase – don’t worry, she’s a voter.

    Tabloid page 3 was long since declared anathema – but the ‘i’ girls still get some hunk to admire: Culture – one has to pause here for us to admire the brass necked highfalutin feature titles the ‘i’ proposes to readers.

    Since its launched (sic) 2010 the Independent’s little sister has seen readership reach a solid 500,000. Readers tend to be younger, metropolitan types including a number of students and those in their first jobs, especially women. (Media First)

    Where were we? Ah yes, the male totty feature – namely the ‘i’ Culture section: I don’t want to get roles just because of my looks James Marsden – nope, me neither (I don’t mean roles due to my looks, I mean I don’t know this performer): James Paul Marsden is an American actor, singer and former model, and voice actor. Marsden began his acting career guest starring in the television shows Saved by the Bell: The New Class, Touched by an Angel, Party of Five, and miniseries Bella Mafia (thank you Wiki… but I’m still none the wiser)

    We come inevitably to the grandiose heading: Environment – the emphasis on global warming has waned a tad lately and – largely due to the flash-in-the-pan buzz of excitment around that decidedly bourgeois female habit of Wild Swiming – we’re having a good old go at the water companies for their treatment of what we flush down the pan: Southern Water has no idea how much sewage it dumps in the Sea off Kent – we’ll resist the urge for some off-colour counter comment about uncounted dighy arrivals thereabouts in that particular part of the world.

    The regime – for that is what it amounts to – is keen to steer bright young girls into the workforce – and of course steer them away from family and parenting: Life – is the bold heading here.

    I digress at the mention of Life – for this provokes thoughts of Life Is Life/Leiben Heißt Leiben – a stirring martial industrial track from the 80s by mitteleuropa art-school rockers Laibach – check them out as your antidote to Eurovision.

    Where were we? Ah yes, nudging our young ladies out of the kitchen and away from the domestic nursery: Life: I tried lazy parenting – it wasn’t any easier

    While we paused in mitteleuropa (Laibach in fact hale from Trbovlje, Slovenia but their lyrics are in both English and German) – where were we again? Ah yes, dissing the UK: Germany is only other G7 member set for decline in GDP – as even Russia is predicted to grow“Burn!” as the kids are wont to exclaim.

    The word BURN is widely used as a slang term to refer to a comment that is insulting or humiliating. BURN is typically used after an insulting or humiliating remark, to indicate that the sender feels they have left the recipient with no possible comeback (Thank you Cyber Definitions)

    Ministers now fear UK risks stubbornly high inflation… prices are not falling as quickly as hoped – now there’s a gross misunderstanding. Falling inflation will not mean falling prices. It will only signal a pause in the rate of price increase. Past inflation is built in. Consumer prices are notoriously downwardly sticky. The government caused the inflation by debasing the currency with excess money printing. Inflation is a policy choice to inflate away some of their sovereign debt.

    And finally, we spot an interesting placard in the junior doctor strike photo top right-hand corner of the ‘i’ frontpage. Not one of those home made efforts but one of the preprinted variety: Strike to save the NHS

    Variations on a theme

    Theme and variations in Western art music is a musical form in which after the first statement of a theme, modifications or elaborations of it occur with each subsequent statement of that theme (thank you Making Music Magazine)

    Two weeks to ‘save the NHS’, warns union… The public has just 13 days to halt the government’s controversial health reforms and save the NHS (Health Service Journal, 2012)

    Why there are 17 days to save the NHS and how it can be done (HSJ, October 2022)

    ‘Stay home, protect the NHS, save lives’ (official Covid slogan)

    Three weeks to save the NHS…?

    To put it simply, if too many people become seriously unwell at one time, the NHS will be unable to handle it… I can assure you that we will keep these restrictions under constant review. We will look again in three weeks, and relax them if the evidence shows we are able to. (Prime Minister’s statement on coronavirus, 23 March 2020)

    Weeks, months…

    Three Months to Save the NHS (Tony Blair Institute for Global Change, August 2022)

    I thought our Tone might come up with some new thinking? Ten years previously…

    Ed Miliband: we have just three months to save the NHS (Guardian, February 2012)


    • Fedup2 says:

      Not being an economist – i gauge the economy by the long faces in supermarkets . High inflation is now well embedded in the UK – thanks to the slow response of the Bank of England to the blue labour money printing bonanza .

      I wonder how red labour is going to respond when screechy gets the gig ? Big tax rises ? Big windfalls ?


  13. Guest Who says:

    As the BBC scrabbles on Musk, and Champion Ash rallies the brain donor community on golliwogs, here is something to ponder…

    Our council pinned, and rigs, everything on #NetZero.

    Assuming the Greens and One Trick Indies have not already done a deal with Carrie’s Cohorts in Tory Delusion Office on fixing the ballot… May will be interesting.

    It’s a new form of democracy. Reportedly.


    • Fedup2 says:

      The elon musk interview was apparently ‘ live streamed ‘ on the twitter meaning more americans might have become more aware of the bias of the government funded BBC .
      Comments on twitter about the background of the interviewer doesnt do the BBC any favours .

      Mr Musk was canny in depriving the BBC of a ‘ world exclusive’ because of the free live stream ..,

      Some on twitter claim that Mr Musk ‘ ‘ bought ‘ the BBC – but the ‘ bad bits ‘ wont get an airing on .. the BBC .

      Pity the kidult lie girl … what will it say after the tears have stopped


    • G says:


      I looked through the document and note the change from, “Net Zero” to “Absolute Zero”. This shift means that a reader can dismiss many sections out of hand such as the sections on food stuff and agriculture in general as there will be no living creatures on Earth remaining to see the Utopia suggested. Likewise, no mention in ‘Mining’ to the extraction of Rare Earths etc absolutely necessary to equip the fictional World the authors see with the technology required. A typical mining worker, equipped with breathing apparatus to breathe, would be in their millions. And the equipment to support them? Cannot be made under “absolute Zero”. Small sample of the nonsense.

      This Report is an unbelievable flight of fancy and I half expected, before the end, to find, ‘A Plan B’. No such luck.

      An absolute work of fiction which should be the rule of thumb now whenever an academic puts pen to paper on any topic.

      Tell me, has this document got any credence within Governments? If ‘yes’ that will show how dim they actually are.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Father-of-one Mr Eve is among a group of families who lost loved ones, allegedly to side effects caused by the vaccine, who are suing the makers of the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab.


      “Any engagement is fleeting at best so that’s the reason that we’re left with no alternative – if the government or AstraZeneca don’t want to engage with us then what else are we supposed to do?”

      government or AstraZeneca

      government or AstraZeneca

      government or AstraZeneca


      Lawyers for the group sent the company pre-action protocol letters in November, the first step in a legal claim on behalf of about 75 claimants – some of whom have lost relatives and some who survived with injuries.


  14. StewGreen says:

    I just saw someone who thought they said
    “Golliwog is a long word, so I am going to use the word Gollies”
    She actually said “so I am going to use the word W*gs”
    ..she carried on unaware of what she said
    and she certainly meant no malice by it.

    But it just goes to show that when you have WORD crimes
    anyone card fall into a hole.

    BTW When you become accustomed to a foreign language you can quite often hear people use derogatory words for foreign or white people.


  15. tomo says:

    The Dooley deployed to Wiltshire

    Did the intrepid Stacy overnight in a wet Wiltshire foxhole?



    • MarkyMark says:

      Inside the UK training camp where Ukrainians are taught how to fight


      BBC Strictly Come Dancing contestant Stacey Dooley … will the BBC mention Stacey’s visit to home town Luton and meeting Anjem Choudary (Anjem backed the remain campaign)?

      “What’s the solution? If Muslim people are in the wrong and they are committing crimes… you know, no one is above the law.” – Stacey Dooley

      “If the law of the land is Islamic, we will respect the law of the land. If it’s not Islamic (the law) then the law of the land, and those who make them, can go to hell quite honestly.” – Anjem Choudary

      “Oh my God!” – Stacey Dooley

      “Because Allah says in the Koran Q33v1 ‘Fear Allah, and do not obey the disbelievers and the hypocrites. Is David Cameron a Muslim of a disbeliever? Guys?” – Anjem Choudary

      “Disbeliever!” – mumbles crowd of 5 other Muslims

      “So you (a Muslim) can’t obey him (UK Law). So he (David Cameron) can go to hell.” – Anjem Choudary

      “Go put on some clothes.”
      – Muslim women wearing black Burqa talks to Stacey, who is wearing a pretty summer dress


    • MarkyMark says:

      #1 Inside the UK training camp where Ukrainians are taught how to fight

      #2 A guide to dating your Down Under
      “Confused by the variety of animal-themed vibrators and neon dildos available online? Well, our girls think it’s best to go organic. ”

      #3 The taboos of women’s sexual health

      #4 Five expert-approved break-up texts to send instead of ghosting



  16. StewGreen says:

    Musk’s live stream had at least 2 gotcha’s against the BBC and James Clayton
    #1 Clayton was unable to list truely hateful tweets that he got
    .. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1646051952042680322

    #2 The line “You mean the BBC’s Covid misinformation”
    as in the WGAP video here


  17. StewGreen says:

    Apparently uncut version of the entire Musk vs Clayton session
    .. https://youtu.be/sKPkgMZ1X9U

    “The BBC clown aka Journalist who did the interview is now LIVE on the @BBCr4today programme
    Passing himself off as having being “hijacked” by Elon doing it live on @twitterspaces
    He is reeling off his Gotcha questions and saying how hard it was to “pin Elon down”


  18. Flotsam says:

    What was surprising about the Nicola Sturgeon/Peter Murrell Police search is that the Police are doing anything at all. It’s the great leader after all. In the normally corrupt judicial system and Police that exists in Scotland I would normally expect the Police to ignore corruption in Government. So what lies behind all this? Could it be that the Police want to look clean? Perhaps there’s other people with dirt on their hands that are stirring things up so the law looks elsewhere?


  19. Flotsam says:

    I’ve worked out what the camper van was for.

    The SNP have taken a leaf out of the Johnson Brexit battle bus idea with it’s £350 Million a week banner. The camper van was set to do the same for a Scottish independence vote campaign.


  20. StewGreen says:

    The BBC tweet about the Musk interview
    listen to the end of the selected 4 minute clip


    • Terminal Moraine says:

      In the BBC version of events (via live feed) they simply report the weaselling out:

      “Musk replies: “Covid is no longer an issue” before pivoting and asking our interviewer himself about BBC content, Clayton responds by stating that he is not a representative of the BBC and that this is not an interview about the BBC.”

      Incredible that neither the BBC nor the government nor Ofcom can be held responsible for their output it seems. If no one is representing the official position on ‘misinformation’, how are they all so sure it’s festering on social media?


      • StewGreen says:

        ” Clayton responds by stating that he is *not a representative of the BBC and that this is not an interview about the BBC*

        In the BBCbreakfast tweet Clayton says he contacted Musk cos he was lobbying him about the label “government funded”

        Same video tweet
        “Earlier today I emailed him and he got back to me straight away, said sure let’s do tonight 8pm”
        That suggests Clayton had hours to prepare

        Yet the BBCnews tweet said it was an “unexpected interview”
        leading some to wrongly think that Clayton had no time to prepare


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Well Musk certainly showed the BBC drone who was boss. They dish it out, but they can’t take it.


  21. StewGreen says:

    Meme : The BBC’s funeral


    • Fedup2 says:

      That line about ‘musk bought the BBC’ has something to it ….they should have sent the lie girl …


  22. Terminal Moraine says:

    More weaselling:

    The BBC don’t like Musk calling them “government funded media”; they dodge the issue by pointing to varied funding sources and insisting “enforcement of non-payment is carried out by private companies”, instead of the gov.

    But it will be criminal law that will land you in prison for not paying the fine. This is the template for increasing public/private partnerships that are ushering in the new world order on behalf of supra-governmental bodies. It’s all subterfuge.



    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Doesn’t matter what the BBC says – it is “government funded media” as the government defined and maintains the legislation which keeps the propaganda operation in place, plus the apparatus which allows people to be fined and imprisoned. The reference to “carried out by private companies” is a nonsense, and is akin to saying that Russia is not militarily active in Ukraine as much of it is carried out by a private company (i.e. the Wagner Group).

      The bottom line is that the government compels you to pay for its propaganda through what its own Office of National Statistics call a hypothecated tax. A sort of variant on Lenin’s statement that ‘the Capitalists will sell us the rope by which we will hang them’.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Magna Carta stated that no taxes could be demanded without the ‘general consent of the realm’, meaning the leading barons and churchmen. It re-established privileges which had been lost, and it linked fines to the severity of the offence so as not to threaten an individual’s livelihood. It also confirmed that a widow could not be forced to remarry against her wishes.



  23. Right Angle says:

    I see that there are quite a few posts on Elon Musk versus BBC reporter James Clayton. Do let me join in and add yet another link:


    Quite fun listening to the interview! Plus, there’s a steady stream of comments flowing in …


    • StewGreen says:

      Yes that Guido piece is the same 4 minute clip about BBC misinformation
      that a couple of us posted further up this thread.


      • Peter Grimes says:

        “ Yes that Guido piece is the same 4 minute clip about BBC misinformation that a couple of us posted further up this thread.”

        Did this comment add to the dialogue in any way, do you think? (I do appreciate mine won’t.)

        Or could you have just ignored it?


        • StewGreen says:

          Yes @PeterGrimes, cos it added imported context
          it tells you that it’s a waste of time going to the Guido page if you have already viewed the 4 minute clip that had already been posted on THIS PAGE twice
          eg by GuestWho 3 hours earlier at 8:49am

          BTW I originally posted the Guido link up the page directly after the 4 minute video
          and said the video was the same,
          That was BEFORE @RightAngle’s comment appeared on my page
          cos we were typing at the same time

          Then since his comment was dated 1 minute before mine I deleted my comment and remade it as a reply to his


    • Philip_2 says:

      Brilliant!. (see Right Angle post above on order-order link). Full marks to Elon Musk who changed the BBC attack into a floppy defence of the BBC. Of which it has no answer. Does the BBC hold its self responsible for COVID vaccinations. Just Brilliant, the BBC cannot claim to be “unbiased” and are gulty as charged. Civil servants dept of “government funded media’. They are – and we know it, even if we pay the TV license.


  24. G says:

    Renewing Road Tax. Cost has risen based on ONLY the manufactures listing of G/KM (‘Green’ nonsense). NOT the emissions test routinely carried on the MOT which could be lower. Note, the renewal V11 arriving by post MAY NOT show the correct sum you have to pay.

    If renewing online the lovely Government expect you to now set up a Direct Debit (grubby fingers in my till – no fear!). Its all to do with channelling toward the CBDC no doubt whatever.

    If you want to pay CASH, it can be done at a Post Office equipped to deal with such tax. Simply Take your V5 and MOT and ………..CASH.

    Nostalgic – bit like the old days.


  25. Terminal Moraine says:

    Guardian squeezing out every bit of mileage they can get from the Ritz afro hair guidelines fiasco.

    The Ritz have offered an “unreserved apology for this error”, but job applicant Jerelle Jules says the apology is “disingenuous and lacklustre”. Take note, people of the UK: your ongoing repentance for acts of discrimination must now come with added lustre.

    Have Claridges made sure their drag queen recruitment policies are shipshape and up to date?



  26. StewGreen says:

    What planet are these people on ?
    BBC have made a full LIVE PAGE about their reporting on Musk

    Here’s a section
    “*Little emotion* from Musk in *spontaneous* interview
    Zoe Kleinman, Technology editor, BBC News

    That’s gaslighting
    #1 Musk certainly showed lots of emotion
    #2 Both sides had hours to prep


  27. StewGreen says:

    Oh another on that same page
    from Mike Wendling : BBC US disinformation reporter

    Musk said “My experience is there is less misinformation [on Twitter after the takeover] rather than more,”

    *Many* outside experts disagree.

    FAKENEWS cos you don’t name the experts
    and it’s the fallacies of popularem and Arguments from Authority
    .. Doesn’t matter how many people or whether they experts say something , that doesn’t make it true.

    One study – and there are a quite a few others along the same lines – found that engagement with popular misinformation-spreading accounts spiked after Musk’s takeover.

    Again failing to name the study
    And is the fallacy of making a big claim but not supplying the evidence)

    Wendling continues

    But he repeatedly questioned whether journalists were fair arbiters of truth and said he had more trust in “ordinary people”.

    It’s a curious position that ignores the forces that drive social media algorithms.

    Actually, the public are quite right to be less trusting of mainstream journalists


  28. Dickie says:

    23rd World Vaccine Congress, Washington DC.



    • tomo says:

      locusts followed by frogs?


      • StewGreen says:

        I’ve eaten locusts when I lived in Korea
        frog when I lived in tribal India
        There was no special taste, so I’ve never eaten them again

        I’ve eaten snails with tribal people in Taiwan
        again no special taste
        just like clams, oysters, mussels and most UK shellfishnexcept prawns

        Dog in Korea was like salty beef, Borneo people tell me you have to cook it in a special way
        Crocodile was like chicken
        but flying fox I would eat again it’s really good

        I was in a Borneo tribal village where someone was selling BBQ’d monkeys on a stick
        I can’t remember eating them though, I think that was cos the locals ate the brains and I don’t think that is safe.

        In Guatemala they serve guinea pig it’s OK, and there’s a couple of counties where I’ve eaten donkey.
        In one Muslim country there was a huge sign the Peacecorp do gooders had put up
        saying “don’t eat the turtle eggs”
        That didn’t deter the owner of my guest house service them at breakfast
        again no special taste.
        I like cashew fruit (but not the nuts) and good durian is a great fruit (like a drug to some people)
        I cannot stand uncooked coriander ..disgusting.


        • tomo says:


          It’s what “big food” will serve up that bothers me (sort of) – the assortment of veggie garbage (imho) that shows up on supermarket / convenience store shelves is grim…

          I’ve been veggie for months and not really noticed it – the ersatz meat and vegan concoctions that are being punted are mostly tasteless highly colored sawdust or extruded algae / fungus ?


        • Dickie says:

          Ah, but wait till they’re all lab produced. Contestants on Masterchef could have Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates hovering in the background😂


        • Fedup2 says:

          I felt the same about semolina at school ….

          …. I’ve eaten a take away kebab so I’ve eaten all the things you’ve listed above ….


        • Jeff says:

          Blimey Stew, you’re certainly adventurous regarding the things you eat.

          Guinea pig, crocodile, flying fox, locust, frogs and turtle eggs.

          Jeesh…I think I’m daring if I have a prawn cocktail…


  29. Philip_2 says:

    We know the BBC is a globalist state run organisation in the pocket of the leftish global corporations like the UN. The same bods wanting ‘climate change’ and ALL that means (zero population growth by any means how).

    COVID was just the start. The UN want to ‘enforce’ lock up and that means forced vaccinations (even though PFIZER is facing a ‘class action’ for killing children who were ‘vaccinated’ who did not even have COVID!

    But the BBC did slip up once, showing that children were not affected and yet the UK public health bodies suggested it was safe, when it was never checked by the NHS as beinhg a drug that may actually ‘pass’ COVID onwards and upwards.

    The usual US culprits were involved (still are).

    its worse: The UK gave legal protection as requested by the WHO, so called ‘indemnity’ from UK prosecution. So if PFizer is forced to pay damages it will be US and not the UK that gets any compensation….


    All this happened under a Conservative government (but would have been even worse under Labour – we would STILL be in LOCKDOWN and forced to have (1) Vaccinations, (2) forced to ware face masks (3) EU identity cards and Chinese style ‘credits’ in place to ensure UN compliance (and no chance of avoiding it).

    So the UN are funded by our own UK governments to wage war on Western nations and you will not get an ‘opt-out’. Rishi is a member of WEF, but will he sign it?

    So beware what is about to become law. Rishi as is a member of the WEF, but – IF – he signs us all up to the WHO doctrine, then the game is open for another COVID MKII as soon as the global left are strong enough based on a ‘suggestion’ that ‘something’, ‘somewhere’ is ‘dangerous’ and we all should be LOCKED UP or VACCINATED by force.

    This is all true although you won’t get anything from the BBC

    Since the COVID outbreak, we’ve seen over and over again how Governments and corporations around the world have used the pandemic as an excuse to limit free speech, expand surveillance, and further erode civil liberties. The threat is now more dangerous than ever! The United Nation’s World Health Organization (WHO) latest move is to seize new far-reaching, and legally binding powers to supposedly “improve the so-called prevention, preparedness and response” of future pandemics.

    In other words… One Power to Rule Us All! The dream of Globalist leaders like Biden, Macron, Von de Leyen, and other leftist tycoons like Soros and Gates come true.   In a recent WHO meeting in February 2023, a working group of WHO representatives completed their reading of the proposed amendments to the International Health Regulations, and agreed on the next steps for more in-depth negotiations to approve a new “Pandemic Treaty”.    They planned for their next meeting which will begin in a few days: on April 17-20!!

    We need to act NOW, before this gets way out of hand:
    You can sign here if you wish. It may not be reported in the MEDIA, and if it is it will be on the BBC as a ‘global health’ message. Compliance is all, comrade. The state owns you, you will have no rights, just deaths.

    Sign here


    • G says:


      I have thought about another total lockdown and concluded that the still tense situation with the Gilt/Bond market would deter this current Labour Government from trying that on. It would be borderline. Look what happened to Truss/Kwarteng. Their downfall? the Gilt/Bond markets said, ‘no way’.


    • kingkp says:

      Signing petitions won’t stop this. The time for that is well past. Other solutions will be necessary. I suggest you all start thinking laterally. Non-violently of course. The devil is among us. The level of the deceit knows no bounds. Put it this way. Everything you thought was true is a lie. Literally. Once you grasp this you grasp the scale of the issue facing not just the people of the UK but the people of every country on this planet.


  30. Fedup2 says:

    Forgetting – for a moment who the US President is – I wonder how america would react if the British PM turned up in Florida – went to bed – got up and then went to Canada to spend 3 days there ….?
    I notice a number of people from Northern Ireland mention ‘insult ‘ and I think they are right ….. he didn’t want to go to Belfast at all – he just wants to turn up at some IRA bash with ‘the boys ‘ about how they beat ‘the brits ‘…..

    …Obama has sent his boy to pretend that the US Oirish vote matters – when we know the election will be as fixed as the last time ….


    • tomo says:

      A few “Let’s go Brandon” banners would’ve brightened up Joe’s visit.


  31. tomo says:


  32. Kaiser says:


    wonder why the BBC choose this pic of an “irishmen” meeting the irish


    • micknotmike says:

      ..and just for balance, find the ugliest white guy you can and place him right next to the “president”.


  33. vlad says:

    Elon Musk sticks it to a slimy BBC ‘journalist’:


    • Mart says:

      You have to go on Tic tok to find the more interesting second half of that car crash interview


  34. MarkyMark says:

    Parliamentary Standards Commissioner Daniel Greenberg is keeping busy, even if it is recess. Today three more MPs have had investigations launched into potential breaches of conduct: Matt Hancock, Scott Benton, and Henry Smith. Both Benton and Smith have been flagged for potential “use of facilities provided from the public purse”. Fairly small fry, although it’s not as if Benton isn’t in enough trouble already.

    Matt Hancock, meanwhile, is being investigated for “lobbying the Commissioner in a manner calculated or intended to influence his consideration of whether a breach of the Code of Conduct has occurred”, which might raise a few eyebrows. Guido’s asked Hancock’s spokesperson how Matt has found himself in trouble yet again:

    “Mr Hancock is shocked and surprised by the investigation. Far from lobbying the commissioner, Matt wrote to Mr Greenberg in good faith to offer some additional evidence that he thought was not only pertinent but helpful for an inquiry the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards is currently conducting. It’s clearly a misunderstanding and Matt looks forward to fully engaging with the Commissioner to clear this up.”

    Shocked and surprised to be making headlines… again.



    YET ….


    ‘SPY’ SCANDAL Chinese ‘spy’ target MP who took £500k from Christine Lee claims he found out she was a communist agent TODAY


    • Fedup2 says:

      Look – if Matt or qwazi want to ‘lobby ‘ on behalf of some fictitious outfit they deserve compensation – say 10000 a day – £ or $ – whatever .

      I mean what’s the use of becoming an MP unless you can use all your ‘skills ‘ … and receive a modest fee – perhaps 10000 £ € $ a day …. It’s only right . Voters ? Constituents ? Whatever ?
      Both Matt and Quazi have got to be certs for the Lords – unless they write their books of course ….

      Can I be an MP please -? I’ll be really cheap ….


      • Philip_2 says:

        No Fedup, they really do think they are WORTH IT. (Like the Shampoo Ad) They are comparing themselves to existing government ‘advisors’ and ‘consultants’ making a packet out of COVID vax and escalating ‘Climate Change’ targets. Its all made up and a child can play if you have the swagger to pull it off and pass the buck when it all goes wrong. As it will, eventually be found out to be all false. And you have to disappear fast when its tantamount to fraud which is what Matt Hancock might face at some point soon.

        You only need a Linked in ‘Consultancy’ to channel the money (about £1500 per hour). i.e, turn off the light in the fridge if you don’t need it on when you close the door!


        • Fedup2 says:

          Philip – where did I say they are not worth it ? The skills both showed at burning industrial quantities of made up pounds could be of great value to – say the Russians or Chinese for ‘office expenses ‘( see barry gardiner ).

          However – I think it is a sad reflection of red labour that they are hardly worth bribing – sorry – compensating – at all … of maybe they are more cunning at covering the tracks .. like a rail union …

          There’s no question of corruption of course – all within the rules they wrote …


  35. Fedup2 says:

    The false president of the US has flown the 87 miles from Belfast to Dubin …. Bet that wasn’t too carbon neutral ….


  36. MarkyMark says:

    ‘It’s time to talk about black rugby players’ hair’

    At the moment, black players in women’s rugby are a niche community but maybe having something like a scrum cap for afro hair could contribute to changing that.


  37. Guest Who says:

    Been busy and off again soon, but just to say I’d like to keep talking about this:


    Seems Americans can spot a TNI howler monkey when they hear it too.


  38. Foscari says:

    What a wonderful image of BIDEN as the BBC main feature.
    Eat your heart out Getty’s imaging . If it wasn’t one of yours.
    All that was missing was a drag queen and a Lia Thomas
    lookalike !!


  39. Fedup2 says:

    Yes – ireland went from being Irish – to something else …Dublin always wanted to be London – London wanted to be New York – why?


  40. Sluff says:

    It’s been announced that Saint Meghan of Markle is not going to attend the coronation.
    Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.


  41. Richard Pinder says:

    Elon Musk accuses the BBC of Spreading COVID Misinformation and ignoring Vaccine Injuries

    Twitter is no longer enforcing the “COVID-19 misleading information policy” of the BBC’s Trusted News Initiative.

    Musk commented on the matter during an interview with BBC reporter James Clayton. In the interview, Musk pivoted Clayton’s question when the interviewer asked about Twitter’s warning labels for false and misleading tweets related to COVID-19.

    Censored by the BBC, Elon Musk said “Has the BBC changed its COVID misinformation?” “I’m talking about the BBC’s misinformation about Covid” “Does the BBC hold itself at all responsible for misinformation regarding masking and side effects of vaccinations? And not reporting on that at all? And what about the fact the BBC was put under pressure by the British government to change the editorial policy, are you aware of that?”



  42. StewGreen says:

    Tim Weber, formerly of BBC Business, and one of Rory Cellan-Jones’ colleagues, was a regular at Davos. Now that he’s moved on to Edelman – the uber-woke PR firm that typically launches its corporate “trust” barometer at the annual Davos shindig – he must have amassed lots of Schwab brownie-points.


  43. StewGreen says:

    Babylon Bee factual comment article
    Outlets like the BBC supported the powerful and the rich against the little guy, using lies to keep us in line, but THEY are the ones beating the drum about “misinformation.”

    I hope you realize now that by “misinformation,” journalists mean “anything that disagrees with me or offends me in the slightest.”


  44. StewGreen says:

    BBC local news cover men being abused by false abuse allegations
    Like Ryan Kerrison’s partner, who is in jail now.

    ITVnewsPR has : The gay dads
    Then PR item about getting women into bricklaying.

    Em bricklaying gangs tend to throw the bricks to each other etc.


  45. Fedup2 says:

    Not really interested in the royals – but it will be interesting to see how the bbc deals with the American half caste actress not coming to the kinging gig …

    .. will they roll out the race industry to tell us how racist we are ?or will they behave themselves for a change ? I suspect the latter is the case . ….


  46. tomo says:


  47. Dickie says:

    Ukraine conflict as not reported by the BBC


    • MarkyMark says:


      Last September the Russian pilot had misinterpreted what a radar operator on the ground was saying to him and thought he had permission to fire. The pilot, who had locked on the British aircraft, fired, but the missile did not launch properly