253 Responses to Start the Week 29 May 2023

  1. Deborah says:

    First.

    Happened to switch on the tv and saw BBC4 this evening were about to start showing Yeoman of the Guard by the ENO at the Coliseum. It is set in the 1950s, and as Mr D pointed out, he wasn’t sure quite why Alec Douglas Hume appeared in the news reels played over the overture.

    However, we gave it a chance but we just knew it would be woke and waiting for it to do so, spolied the moment. I presume it was Sir Richard Cholmondeley who was played by a woman, we could cope with that. Phoebe seemed as far as we watched, to be played traditionally with someone whose skin colour seemed to fit the times. Then her brother Leonard appeared. He was very black. How such a white woman could have such a very black brother was beyond explanation. But we could have gone with that. However Leonard had the sort of haircut that present day Turkish barbers are so fond of ie nothing at the sides and a circle of hair on the top, a monk in reverse. It was just sloppy and looked stupid. We gave up and switched off. Perhaps it wasn’t just the haircut, but it really wasn’t very good. The orchestra drowned the singing and the actors appeared to be made of wood. And the singers mouths didn’t seem to move in time with the words which were being sung. I would have thought a multi billion pound enterprise could have got the technology right.

    Ah well, perhaps 5 out of 10 for trying something traditional but it really didn’t hold out attention. Bring back the Doyley Carte.

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    • Helena Hand-Basket says:

      Deborah, if only we could bring that hilarious lyric writer W S Gilbert back! If anyone could do a musical spoof of the woke era, it would be him. (Mr Hand-Basket and I have just watched his comic opera Patience, a send-up of the Victorian aesthetic movement. It seems to have been full of the same status-seeking fakes as wokeness.)

      Gilbert and Sullivan’s ‘The Mikado’ contains the comic song ‘They’ll none of them be missed’, which lists ‘society offenders who might well be undergound’. They include ”the idiot who praises with enthusiastic tone each century but this and every country but his own”. We certainly have plenty of these around in our anti-British times!

      (By the way, we’ve got all the G and S operas on DVD. They’re a bit old, but you may still be able to get them. And I can guarantee no transgenders unless they were part of the plot!)

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      • Scroblene says:

        I recently unearthed a picture of me in a dress, as one of the Major-General’s daughters in ‘The Pirates of Penzance!

        I was in my very early teens at the time, and my voice was about to break, but the ‘extra effect’ of the two extra socks Sellotaped inside the top half of the outfit was rather spoiled by the huge thick-soled plimsoles I wore instead of the dainty little shoes we were supposed to be wearing! The make-up was appalling!

        Mabel’s voice actually did break during the dress rehearsal, much to the amusement of the girls from the local convent!

        I also developed galloping tonsillitis after the final performance of the show, and couldn’t speak, let alone sing…

        Nobody in the BBC was asked to comment…

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        • Up2snuff says:

          What has happened to our Brissles? Haven’t seen a post from her for some while.

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          • Deborah says:

            I too have been worrying about her – Brissles please let us know if you are OK.

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            • Scroblene says:

              I’ve had a couple of chats with her – she’s OK – had a spot of bother earlier, but being Brissles, is staying on top as usual!

              I’m due another chat soon so will expect to find her feeling even better!

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              • Deborah says:

                Please Scob send Brissels best wishes from the regulars here.

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                • Up2snuff says:

                  Echo that!

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                  • Scroblene says:

                    Just heard back from Brissles…

                    She’s had a roller-coaster of dealing with the NHS, but as expected, has seen them off, given them a good hiding and got stuck in! She’s going to be just fine and dandy, and in her own words just now: –

                    “So lovely of fellow BBBC contributors to ask about me, hopefully I will be in evidence soon with a huge I’M BACK !! fanfare lol !”

                    That’s our Brissles xxx!

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      • Deborah says:

        I have an LP of John Reed singing G&S (not the retired Labour MP). I must dig it out. John’s singing of the patter songs are fantastic.

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  2. Deborah says:

    My second attempt refers to a programme I heard on Radio 4 last Friday. It was about the difficulties some asylum seekers have proving they really need asylum. The seekers in question are those from the LGBTQ etc etc community whose lives would be in danger if they returned to their own country.

    The BBC person was queer. I know this because she (I am assuming it was a she because her voice sounded female but I know I should never assume anything) told us so. She (I will call her she throughout) interviewed a queer (she told us he was queer I think) man from Tobago. He was seeking asylum in this country because Tobago is one country where practicing homosexuality is illegal. The BBC person went through the difficulties the man was having staying in this country. He had been here 8 years and had made 7 appeals. It wasn’t explained how if someone fails the first time, they can just keep on appealing. The man was existing on just £35 per week we were told. I cannot believe this covered his rent, so who was paying that? Graphic details were given about how men used to prove they were homosexual (ie film of their bedroom activites).

    What wasn’t covered was how many people claim to be homosexual (who aren’t really) to enable them to stay in this country.

    Although the BBC claim not to be biased, they are so blinkered they cannot see the evidence of their own bias. The programme ticked so many boxes. It was made by a queer person about a black queer person. It highlighted the difficulties which asylum seekers face. But everything was taken at face value and used to show what a dreadful racist country this is.

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    • StewGreen says:

      I go to Twitter and search : Tobago Pride
      and up pop videos of Trinidad and Tobago Pride Parades
      First one was July 28, 2018.

      That shows people can be gay in Tobago openly
      so the guy must have come before then
      Furthermore unless he had done other serious crimes he wouldn’t have been prosecuted before then either

      The Trinbagonian Criminal Code prohibited anal sex and oral sex between any sexes before the judicial repeal of the prohibition in 2018.
      Prior to 2018, Section 13 of the Sexual Offences Act 1986 (strengthened in 2000) criminalised “buggery”, with 25 years imprisonment. Theoretically, the law punished oral and anal sex between heterosexuals as well.[2]
      Enforcement
      The Trinidad and Tobago Government had not targeted homosexuals under the “buggery” or “serious indecency” laws; however, in limited historical cases, individuals had been charged and convicted of these offences when coupled with other serious crimes

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      • Deborah says:

        As I said Stew, the man had been in the U.K. eight years. No mention on the programme that the laws on homosexuality had changed in Tobago in the meantime . Funny that. I would have thought a multi billion organisation would have had the resources to have fact checked.

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        • StewGreen says:

          Journos deceive cos adding proper context can ruin an exciting narrative.
          #LyingByOmission

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        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          If only someone had told this fellow. I am sure he would have been delighted to leave £35 per week penury in Britain for a new life back home in Trinidad & Tobago. Because there is no way in which he could be a bogus asylum seeker. Is there?

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  3. Guest Who says:

    Recall that Eco anti Brexit farmer expert the other day?

    Wheels within wheels.

    And the guys at the #prasnews factory.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Liz Webster
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    • MarkyMark says:

      Dear Winston Smith from the Memory Hole Department,

      Legal definition of genocide
      ————————————-
      Genocide is defined in Article 2 of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (1948) as “any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part1

      ; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and]

      forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”

      **imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group**

      They (Anti-natalists) believe humans shouldn’t have children. Who are the anti-natalists – and how far are they willing to push their ideas? {bbc.co.uk 13aug2019}
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-49298720

      UN on Genocide: imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group

      BBC On Anti-natalists:They (Anti-natalists) believe humans shouldn’t have children.

      Terrorism: “Wouldn’t it just be better to blow a hole in the side of the earth and just have done with everything?”

      Seems your article might want to mention the UN definition of genocide and also mention it to the Anti-natalists.

      Cheers,
      Mr H

      https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2019/08/20/midweek-open-thread-21-august-2019/#comment-1007745

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  4. StewGreen says:

    What happens when you set a MAXIMUM price for something ?

    doh the same as happened with energy
    Every seller pushes UP their price and the maximum price becomes the new NORMAL price

    #PriceCapParadox #DumbPoliticians

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  5. tomo says:

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    • Charlie Farley says:

      Tomo ,
      Traditional Multi – Billion Pound business model……Create a problem and then sell a ” Magic Cure “…..what can possibly go wrong !

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    • Loobyloo says:

      Why is the word covid blocked out?

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  6. JohnC says:

    Ukraine war: Zelenksy praises air force after Russia’s largest drone attack yet
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65740839

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    ‘Some buildings, including a tobacco factory, caught fire after being hit by falling drone fragments.’

    That must have been a big ‘fragment’ to do damage like that.

    The reporting of this war by the BBC is going from ridiculous to absolutely ludicrous.

    I have a feeling this author of the article has no clue what a kamikaze drone even looks like – let alone have any idea what damage it might do.

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    I have a feeling the whole point of these attacks is to get Ukraine to use up all their missiles.

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  7. Charlie Farley says:

    Just heard at 7.00 am News …..BBC report Ukraine shot down 40 Drones…….Classic FM reported 58 out of 59 …….who to believe !

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  8. Guest Who says:

    Looks like they are just going to let XR and JSO run wild.

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  9. Guest Who says:

    Also LBC.

    Not LBC.

    Polls, darn polls, and the media.

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  10. Guest Who says:

    Sofa’s squad might have trouble getting past the plastic scanners.

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    • micknotmike says:

      I’ve got a simpler solution, which would have a far greater impact. Cancel the whole thing. I’ve got a pretty fair idea what a bunch of people running round and round looks like, so cancel it and show last years instead. Same with anything which involves kicking a ball or hitting it with a stick.

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    • Mrs Kitty says:

      Anyone who goes to Paris for this will have to dodge all the pickpockets at all the touristy spots, save your money people and if you must watch frequent your local with a tv.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Ban sports to save the planet?

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      • micknotmike says:

        Hi Mark,
        I’m not in favour one way or the other. My point is that if the new oracles intend to prevent climate change and head for net zero (Or lower if there’s money in it), then they must surely be in favour of banning, well, pretty much anything enjoyable. One FA cup final, I would guess, involves 40-50 000 cars averaging 100 miles. So ban it. My favourite way of winding up these wonderkids is to ask them if they have a dog. Most of them seem to. Want to make maximum reduction on your carbon footprint? Kill the dog. You either want all these reforms or you don’t.
        Or maybe they just enjoy having their vegan snouts in the biggest con since covid 19. Came from a lab, you say? Well there’s a turnip for the books.

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  11. Fedup2 says:

    Disfunctional Public bodies fighting each other – this time plod isn’t dealing with mental cases any more ( unless death is involved ) – they’ll then be able to lock up more members of the public trying to clear roads from green crap nutters. …

    NHS staff will be forced to Do Their Job in dealing with rapidly increasing mental cases – caused by watching / listening to too much BBC ….

    Elsewhere – it looks like “today ‘is running out of British items to slag off so it has a new feature ‘what’s that tree’… something ideal for radio . This will be followed by celebrities talking about their favourite bath plug …

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  12. Guest Who says:

    Digging up June Whitfield seems cruel.

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  13. AsISeeIt says:

    At this, the butt end of the soccer season there’s a desperate scramble for points: Everton’s escape act… Leicester and Leeds go down as Villa make Europe (Times) – and there’s naff puns a plenty to be employed based on defunct last-century club pre-post-industrial nicknames – that surely carry little currency with the likes of those Malaysian betting syndicates that so closely follow our Premier League: Sweet relief for Toffees (Daily Star); Toff luck (Sun); Toffees stick around… Hats off to Luton Town… but Foxes go down (‘i’) – personally I would have gone with: Foxes run to ground in end of season hunt

    For those who haven’t looked away yet… and think this review is all over… perhaps you’ll prefer playing mainstream media cliché bingo – there’s cringe a plenty at those current ‘things’ to be found on the frontpages…

    …warmest day of the year… (Times)

    …hottest day of the year so far (Guardian)

    Dr Ranj blasts ‘Bully’ culture at ITV (Daily Star)

    …show had culture of bullying… (Mail)

    This Morning is ‘toxic’ says its resident doctor (Telegraph)

    Turkish election victory for Erdogan leaves nation divided (BBC) – the familiar BBC formula there emphasising that ‘right-ish’ leaders divide – even when they win elections.

    Personally one would award the islamist-leaning Erdogan no stars or crescents but he certainly seems to have given our BBC boys and girls the hump: But his call for unity sounded hollow as he ridiculed his opponent Kemal Kilicdaroglu – and took aim at a jailed Kurdish leader and the LGBT community. (BBC)

    On a positive note, the Telegraph at least has got to grips with those basic inevitable universal economic forces that work like gravity: Rent rise blamed on higher immigration – the Torygraph takes care to take an editorial side-step and attribute the statement to some right-leaning think tank – but when you are given a rare present it’s the thought thant counts. Mr AsI likes the term hyper-immigration since frankly we’ve now gone way beyond mass immigration

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    • Guest Who says:

      Seems the dead trees have their own roster of young blonde moppets too.

      The notion of days getting warmer as we pass from winter though spring to blazing June seems alien to many.

      So far.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      ASI
      But what about Heathrow -? And the puter thing which stopped working ? I’m surprised the bbc thinks this is bad news – but surely making air travel difficult it part of the green crap thing – and less need for more airports …. And who needs a tourist industry ? It’s mainly run by foreigners for foreigners so where is the benefit to British taxpayers . ?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      AISI, it certainly wasn’t the hottest day of the day down in the south-east of England. Multiple layers needed when out on the bike.

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  14. Guest Who says:

    Time for Justin, Matt, Roger to do a HIGNFY laugh a minute special with Ed, Gove and the Limp bloke lady with spex.

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  15. Guest Who says:

    If Fabulous Fanny on No.3 in the Strictly studio did that… toast.

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    • Mrs Kitty says:

      Had to watch it several times just because, added to the Canning Town tube protest. Sometimes a chuckle is better than a pill.

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    • StewGreen says:

      The video redone in WWF style

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  16. Guest Who says:

    “Danno… there’s a tenth circle!”

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  17. Fedup2 says:

    Now that plod has started trying out the ‘withdrawal of service ‘ nonsense ( aimed at getting more of our money ) – I wonder what the next ‘withdrawal ‘ will be ?

    Missing persons perhaps ?
    Ceremonials ?
    Street patrolling ?( ooops already done )
    Police stations ( already done )
    Vetting ( already done )
    Road protests ( already done )

    Naturally there will be a corresponding reduction in ‘managers ‘…

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  18. StewGreen says:

    BBCsport opened up the Leicester City article for comments
    so of course people piled in and had a pop at Lineker
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65622943#comments

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew
      But will the linaker be ‘head hunted ‘ by sky to do their Saturday footy thing now that the Great Jell Spelling has stepped down so gracefully ? I bet sky would pay double and let him get on with his irrational lefty comments …. Then one of the girl / blokes do the Match of the Day with ‘wrighty’ and that gordie bloke ?

      I’ve got a cold so I’m a fully paid up keyboard warrior today ..

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      • Mrs Kitty says:

        Hope you’re feeling better soon.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Mrs Kitty thank very much . I fear it’s the worst form of man flu – the price I pay from returning from a Mediterranean climate to the tropic of londonistan …

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  19. StewGreen says:

    Parody tweet 2000 Likes, pretty good compared to Just Stop Oil

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  20. StewGreen says:

    Context to big battery farm story

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  21. tomo says:

    Perhaps Jeremy will open a solar farm and start growing maize?

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  22. Dickie says:

    Now why do I get the feeling that the BBC is as popular as dog poo under the soles of a pair of shoes:

    https://www.spiked-online.com/podcast-episode/the-bbcs-ministry-of-truth/

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  23. Thoughtful says:

    TO quote Agent Smith of “The Matrix” I’ve had a revelation, a few days ago which I would like to share with readers because I’m pretty sure they don’t know about this either.

    ESG scores environmental, social, and governance, are a scoring system akin to Chinas social credit system and if a company doesn’t have a high enough score they will find access to credit impossible, or more expensive depending on the score.

    Now in the past based on media disinformation I was under the mistaken belief that this was all about green nonsense, but it isn’t. Under the Mafia Democrats the S Social function is being used in a Fascist manner to control companies and what they do.

    I like many others saw companies like Annheiser Busch using some trannie as a decision made by a woke marketing exec out of control, and there might be some truth in that, however the reality is far darker than that.

    Under Bidens Orwellian Fascist nightmare, companies which choose to give money to religious institutions lose ESG points, and gain them when they use LGBT or Blacks in marketing campaigns. If they use White people they lose points. If they give money to the ‘right’ people they gain points, the ‘wrong’ ones and they lose them.

    ESG is being used to control what companies run as marketing campaigns so when you see virtually every advert with Blacks or gays, now you know why and the Fascist control behind which is making it happen.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      T, so if you give money to BAME Christian missionaries working in, say Africa, you max out your ESG score?

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    • kingkp says:

      This is why the banksters can allow North Face, Budweiser et al to go broke. It doesn’t matter to them. Blackrock now effectively owns EVERY company on the planet. In fact, they are enjoying destroying companies like Budweiser because they are typically associated with your average American Joe. It’s a demoralisation process. They are gobbling up assets with the fake money they are printing that goes to the likes of JP Morgan and friends (owners of the FED) who are using it to buy up all of the independent banks across the West and give the rest to Blackrock and pals to manage. As you say using ESG they can bankrupt any company they choose to that won’t play ball with their nonsense. The climate scam is simply being used as an excuse to asset-strip the world in favour of the banksters.
      BlackRock CEO Larry Fink says he believes in “forcing behaviors.” “Behaviors are going to have to change and this is one thing we are asking companies, you have to force behaviors and at Blackrock, we are forcing behaviors.”
      You will be happy and you will own nothing isn’t a bluff.

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  24. tomo says:

    Locums and agencies … 80% of wage bills…

    And the idiot managers don’t as a rule it seems even bother to even trivially check the experience and credentials of the locums – some of whom are flat out chancers who wouldn’t / couldn’t be employed in normal circumstances…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The medical mafia will make sure that there will never be enough doctors and nurses and the rest to staff their NHS . The advantages of being ‘agency ‘ must be great in every way – particularly for those of the lowest calibre – same with the locums ant night who barely speak the Engleesh …..

      … such a self serving industry …

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      • tomo says:

        The offloading of diligence in estimating clinical competence of a locum dang near killed my sister in law in an appendix surgery.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Yes if I ever had to deal with a medic again – I’d press the ‘record ‘ button and – if possible – google their qualifications …..

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  25. tomo says:

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Yet again we see the proof that the Blue Labour government are facilitating the open border policy of the far left mafia Democrats in the USA where clueless Rishi Washee appears to be finding his policy ideas.

      Sad that this guy was living in the UK, but it’s Belgium which has taken legal action against him and nothing the UK which appears quite happy to allow him to continue operating here.

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  26. Doublethinker says:

    The right have won regional elections in Spain and the Social Democrats routed. The general election will take place in the autumn and similar results are expected. This follows hard on the heels of the right winning regional elections in Greece last week and of course Meloni winning power in Italy and the Dutch farmers party giving the socialists a bloody nose.
    Everywhere in EU land the socialists are in retreat . Can the right win power in the EU Parliament? If they do will they be able to overcome the socialist bureaucracy in Brussels or will we see the refusal of the socialist elite to bow to the will of the people as we have seen in the UK?
    If the right can bring the anti democratic elite to heel in Brussels then it’s a great ,great pity that we left because we are getting stuffed post Brexit by all our main parties. One thing is certain , if the right triumphs in Brussels the British anti democrats won’t be applying to rejoin anytime soon.

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  27. tomo says:

    shades of tulip mania

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  28. TrickCyclist says:

    BBC News at One, David Sillito is interviewing Ron and Russell Mael from Sparks about their 50 years in the music biz.
    “We were huge Anglophiles growing up,” the brothers tell him.
    I’m not sure the BBC wants to hear things like that.

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  29. tomo says:

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  30. tomo says:

    Blimey…

    Khant’s excuses pile up!

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  31. pugnazious says:

    Germany….a short hop, skip and a jump from other EU countries….freedom to travel and work, no paperwork and easy to return home at the weekend, no ‘Brexit’….and yet…somehow…there’s a massive labour shortage in Germany….oh, and a recession.

    Odd huh? And even odder that we supposedly have a labour shortage here when we have record net immigration…..far far more people than ever came during the glory days of EU membership.

    ‘A new study carried out by the Cologne Institute for Economic Research has shown that the worker shortage in Germany has reached an all-time high level.
    Candidates who have completed higher education are mainly sought after and stressed that the fields of electrical engineering, IT, and construction, among others, are currently the most affected by the shortage.

    As for jobs in social services, health, education, and teaching, I Am Expat Germany explains that they are facing a stark worker shortage too. ‘

    All sounds very familiar…exactly the same shortages we have here….and yet, apparently, the cause is different…says the BBC.

    Even the Guardian notices….

    ‘German call for English to be second official language amid labour shortage’

    Oh and that recession….what’s the cause?

    ‘The war in Ukraine has unsettled both businesses and consumers, both holding back on investing and buying respectively, which has affected demand. Interest rate rises by the European Central Bank have so far had little influence on reducing inflation, which stands at 7% across the eurozone.

    Considerably higher heating costs, despite government subsidies, meant German consumers were holding back on spending on other things.’

    But here the BBC and friends keep on blaming Brexit for everything…..as Justin Webb says…‘Brexit is a problem…what can we do about it?’ LOL.

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Pug.
      What they need is lots of Doctors, Engineers and Scientists.
      Where have I heard that lot mentioned before I wonder.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Let’s give all those EU citizens the ‘ right’ to vote in a re join referendum eh ….? …red labour policy …

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      • Up2snuff says:

        pug, “Odd huh? And even odder that we supposedly have a labour shortage here when we have record net immigration…..far far more people than ever came during the glory days of EU membership.”

        Quite right.

        I’m also puzzled why the O.N.S. currently relays the UK jobless statistics as a percentage figure: as if no-one can work out that 3.7% of 34, 000,000 is 1,528,000 unemployed in the UK!

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        • harry142857 says:

          Sure it’s a typo, but 1,258,000 is the correct calculation. We have hundreds of young men where I live from overseas walking round the town centre every day, with no intention of looking for work.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            harry, thanks for the back-up: quite correct. Apologies for reversing the 2 & 5.

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  32. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Do you remember seeing on the tv where various religions hurt themselves to prove how devout they are. They might keep whipping themselves with a leather whip maybe with hooks or metal on to draw blood and generally cause much pain and damage just to show others how much they believe in their god or religion.
    They might do things like sticking knives in themselves or stop eating until they are just a bag of bones. Maybe playing with rattlesnakes.

    It’s usually primitive people (or con men) and where it’s genuine it is virtue signalling at the extreme.

    When it comes to all these adverts, big companies appear to be damaging themselves just to tick boxes and show us ordinary people how virtuous they are. Bud light comes to mind but they are all at it.
    Everybody can see it’s rubbish and just virtue signalling yet they go ahead annoying the majority of their market.

    It’s like these primitives damaging themselves the way these virtue signalling companies are behaving, hurting themselves (sales) just to show they are woke.

    Of course, lots of other examples can be found such as tv drama casting anyone who can tick boxes or promoting people because they tick boxes instead of promoting the best person for the job, all types of self harm.

    We can only hope that Darwinism will get rid of all these woke types and we can get back to normal life. It’s either that or we ‘tolerate’ ourselves to extinction.

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  33. tomo says:

    not on the state broadcaster?

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    • tomo says:

      Will the SNP disappear up their own behinds?

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  34. Dickie says:

    Col Douglas Macgregors latest analysis on Ukraine and Russian military operations

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    • Thoughtful says:

      He’s done new ones since. What was interesting was a remark he made some time ago about Ukrainian bots attacking people on comment threads when they post anything which doesn’t fit their way of propaganda.
      So today on the Daily Mail I got “go back to your cabbage soup Olga”, when I checked the posts of that name they were all on the same thread from a source which recently joined.
      There were two posts alledging I was some kind of Russian shill undoubtedly from Ukrainian bots.

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  35. tomo says:

    Pootin …

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Tomo
      Seems a bit strange listening to a speech by putin which should come out of the mouth of a true conservative in the West .
      If you listen to that speech – try finding something to disagree with . He does – as they say – nail it .

      I wonder if the cause of the current social crisis / collapse is a seed planted by the uSSr back in the 1960s but has developed as generations of weirdos have achieved career power in outfits such as political parties , the media , bbc ….

      Funny world innit ?

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      • Richard Pinder says:

        The use of all 36 Chinese strategies on the “white elite” are now almost complete. Bribing the “white elite” into destroying themselves with progressive ideology & transferring their industry to China. Western owned Industry in China can now be controlled by the Chinese people. The Chinese have bought the Gold and fooled the “white elite” into destroying their own military with a jab. When the “white elite” have bankrupted themselves, china invades Taiwan. Then China snatches their assets.

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  36. pugnazious says:

    Why does the BBC hate Britain, Empire and ‘The West’ whilst glorifying other cultures, nations and empires such as the Islamic conquest and colonisation which has condemned so much of the world to a perpetual state of backward, violent, primitive, impoverishment and whose encroachment into Western countries brings with it yet more violence, intolerance and hatred?

    The BBC seems not just ready to accept criticism of The West but actively seeks out such criticism and hatred dressed as ‘criticism’.

    Take for example the recent ‘Book of the Week’ on R4 by Naoise Mac Sweeney ‘The West…a new history of an old idea’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001m4hp

    ….the claim is that this isn’t an anti-Western hatchet job…but of course it’s precisely that….her work, she admits, based upon the ideas of Edward Said….an anti-Western polemicist.

    Her narrative is that The West invented nationalism, racism, white, or race based, supremacy and of course slavery, colonialism and imperialism….The West is uniquely bad, evil and racist.

    She employs a favourite trick of the BBC…creating a false premise to hang her narrative on….for example the BBC’s Horrible History that told us it was a myth that Tea is British and went on from that to trash Britain…but no-one thought tea came from Britain…we all know it comes from India or China…..but it is ‘celebrated’ as a drink that the British love greatly and are famous for drinking….we all know a ‘British cuppa’ is not made from tea grown in Britain but this is the ‘myth’ the BBC claims to bust…..in a similar way this book makes the claim that The West believes in the myth that it is singularly descended from Greco-Roman culture, Plato to Nato and from that stems its ‘racism’ and belief that all other cultures and races are inferior.

    As The Telegraph says….

    ‘On the factual question, she is in many ways quite right. The idea of an unbroken and exclusive line from Ancient Greece to today’s liberal democratic Western states fails as soon as you look at the evidence. But this is not news, making much of the book an attack on a straw man. ‘

    Hmmm….er….Christianity? An import from the Middle-East…an ideology that is in fact the real foundation of The West binding it together and creating the morals and ethics that established and formed The West…in particular individualism and the Protestant work ethic…and all married in with Greek science, art, literature, phliosophy….oh yeah, and Roman…and er…influences from the Islamic world…and China…paper and gunpowder for starters….and Indian number systems….etc etc.

    All of this is well known and recognised…..the passing on of knowledge from culture to culture….the Greeks taking much from the Egyptians and Babylonians and no doubt others….and we definitely basing the foundations of so much of our science on what the Greeks produced….there is no doubt that this is so…but also that we fully accept and recognise that the Greeks learnt for other as well…it’s not a hidden secret as Naoise Mac Sweeney falsely claims.

    The claim that The West is not founded upon Greco-Roman influences is blatantly a lie as is the claim that we think this was an ‘immaculate conception’, The West was ‘pure’ with no other outside influences being admitted….Greek and Roman culture just popping up from nowhere and The West morphing out of that….clearly utter nonsense but utter nonsense the BBC gives high profile platform to spout it from.

    As for racism, nationalism and cultural supremacy….this type of thinking has been around as long as people have been around and to characterise such traits as uniquely ‘White’ is dangerous and toxic hate mongering. The Japanese famously kept their land free of any non-Japanese ‘contamination’….the Chinese are not exactly known for their tolerance and diversity…and the prized Roman citizenship?, and of course we have Islam….its bigotry, racism, sexism and intolerance is famous….and tribalism….mini-nation states….one African tribe quite prepared to kill or enslave the inferior next door tribe…and sell them to Europeans or Muslims.

    Naoise Mac Sweeney is of Chinese/Irish descent which could explain a lot of her antipathy rather than ‘scholarship’…..and why she favourably compares China today with The West….bit of an irony really…a ‘citizen of the world’ but who still clings to her race and heritage whilst attacking others for their ‘racism’ and nationalism.

    Why does the BBC give so much time to someone who claims this is not an attack on The West but a ‘celebration’ of it, lol….as she rubbishes our alleged ‘origin myth’ that is such a ‘morally bankrupt fiction’, one that is a Far-Right narrative become mainstream….and yet so true in reality…..not at all Far-Right…it has long, long been the accepted and very real narrative of our culture and civilisation…no myth or fiction…..it is unquestionable that the Greeks, Romans and Christianity formed the founding principles for The West.

    She believes we must ‘rethink Western Civilisation’….nah….just tell the truth…but that wouldn’t suit a racist, anti-Western, anti-White Marxist polemicist…nor the BBC that seems all too eager to trash and dismantle The West.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Satanism is a big thing now for the Left, they think they are so clever they can play with live coals and not get burned, so they have turned in great numbers to the open worship of Satan.

      An interesting talk by an American Catholic Excorcist on You Tube talks of the Baphoment image of the great deceiver which is female on top male on the bottom, the ultimate gender fluidity which as he says is in itself Satanic.

      God created man, and woman, he did not create something inbetween and to suggest he did is the deception of Satan.

      I have noticed recently more and more people realising the work of Satan behind much of the so called ‘woke’ ideology Satan is now overt and clear to see he has called so many to his side against that of God.

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    • Banania says:

      It is time we had an “honest debate” about this, as I expect this Fenian lady has said.

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  37. Guest Who says:

    6 hrs in and look how many engage. Of them, few onside.

    Yet the BBC will ensure these numpties hold a balance of power with the Eds and Lucas, and Richi will go along.

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  38. Flotsam says:

    Climate Change activism operates the same way as Witch Doctors.

    There’s a drought and the village needs rain. The village collects money and sacrifices to pay the Witch Doctor to perform a rain dance.
    The Witch Doctor performs a rain dance and sacrifices and ……..

    a) It rains. So the Witch Doctor successfully appeased the Gods and they gave rain.
    B) It doesn’t rain. The payment was inadequate, the sacrifices weren’t good enough. More money is needed.

    Either way the Witch Doctor wins.

    We are handing over money and sacrificing our lifestyles so they can ‘control’ climate change……

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  39. Scroblene says:

    Well, British gardeners will soon have just stringy coir ‘compost’ instead of sustainable peat to use on their gardens from next year, as some EU/Leftie edict which is only followed by Germany and some other place over there, is stopping us using the stuff!

    Peat is a natural sustainable product which has been used for centuries as an aid to growing crops in this part of the world, but the manic Green zealots have decided that it has to be preserved for some reason or other! I always thought that humans actually came top of the tree, not invertebrates and insects…

    The argument that the use of peat is nodded through as it means that when it is cut and used, it releases CO2, and stops the laughable ‘net-zero’ target from being ‘achieved’. What utter bollocks!

    Canada has so much peat, it is a rising and developing commodity, but apparently, Brits and companies producing compost have to use a product which is grown in Asia, harvested, and all the salt washed out of it with a scarce water supply, then shipped in huge conatiner boats all that way to the British Isles for a very expensive and not very good substitute!

    I never voted for this catastrophe, but any normal British pastime or hobby like gardening is never going to figure anywhere near the flawed ideals of the fanatical left-wing Green morons.

    The BBC are always implicit in their support for this disgraceful limitation for home gardeners everywhere! Their gardening programmes are now a pathetic joke and well worth ignoring!

    I never thought that a timeless pastime like gardening and producing my own crops and flowers would be tarnished by such a failed design for future generations who actually want to do something, and which excludes the twisted ideals of a little autistic kid from some Scandinavian cult.

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  40. Charlie Farley says:

    Scroblene ,
    Buy Peat Futures……my one Grandfather was a Head Gardener at a large estate……he’ll be turning in his moss covered Grave with that news then , and why are we listening to what the EU say anyway I thought we’d left …..oh hang on !

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    • Scroblene says:

      Charlie and Tomo, it really is a sad indictment of a useless policy just ruining a ‘traditional’ lifestyle for normal British people.

      This ridiculous scramble to achieve a spurious level of Co2 in an ever-changing environment has made billionaires of so many canny dealers, the mind boggles at the stupidity of our politicians even more!

      Your Grandfather was one of the best people ever to judge nature as it was meant to be, not what some airhead with a non-degree in politics and idiocy would eventually bring to our useless government.

      Luckily, I have enough room at home to stockpile enough peat to last me and my family through to my dotage, which at this rate, is lengthening due to the fact that I don’t always buy the crap churned out by supermarkets…

      …the same supermarkets which overcharge a gullible public to fund their woke food banks for the feckless…

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      • Charlie Farley says:

        Scroblene ,
        Always remember his wise words ” the answer lies in the soil ” , As children we used to stay with them and the Fruit and Vegetables were amazing ….. the Tomato greenhouse and the taste of them wow , I’ve tried to grow something similar but never could . I remember one thing that was done was Horse Manure ( BBC speciality ! ) from the Stables in hessian sacks and dropped in to the water tank …..cheap nutrients and it obviously worked !

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  41. JohnC says:

    Ukraine war: General Kyrylo Budanov promises revenge after latest Kyiv attack
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65740839

    ‘All the missiles were shot down, officials said, and there were no reports of casualties.’

    My God, we have entered cuckoo land. Ridiculous claims by Ukraine reported verbatim by the BBC who it seems are no longer including any qualifying statement that the headline might not be true.

    That means things are getting desperate.

    I have to admit that these waves of drone strikes are tactical genius by Russia. Ukraine are using $500,000 missiles against $20,000 ‘simple’ kamikaze drones. It means that if the counter offensive ever actually starts, Ukraine are going to be very short on anti-aircraft missiles which is very, very bad news indeed for troops on the ground.

    I wonder how long it will be before questions start being asked about why the West is giving so many billions to Ukraine if they are going to lose. The whole thing is escalating out of control. Why is nobody trying to stop it and reach some kind of compromise while we still can ?.

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    • tomo says:

      Kyiv Ken ? – anybody?

      I’m getting pissed off with idiotic CGI tedium being hosed into my YouTube alongside the rousing vids to gee-up the cannon fodder and farcical tactical victory claims.

      I don’t watch BBC stuff beyond some clips that make their way out away from the channels and the general impression from that is mendacious crap.

      The asymmetric tech tactics are to be expected – and the decoying will get “smarter” – the Russians will be spotting all the acquisition radars. Likely the 2nd hand western tanks will be lured into traps and picked off.

      I’ve yet to hear a convincing explanation of the USS Donald Cook incident.

      Nuland, Sullivan, Graham and shot away ‘ole Joe and the rest of the war mongers deserve a hiding and incarceration.

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      • JohnC says:

        What is worrying me at the back of my brain is the knowledge that Russia are being given direct experience to learn about warfare with the latest weapons the West has.

        The astute observer will realise that all mention of HIMARS and the turkish kamikaze drone – both war winning game changers – have been completely dropped from the propaganda by the likes of the BBC. No explanation – they just disappeared overnight.

        It’s because Russia have learned that they can easily jam the weak GPS signal and render them useless.

        Same as they have learned to revert to artillery barrages followed by ground assaults instead of armoured assaults – thus rendering our amazing anti-tank missiles pointless.

        The Russian equipment is low technology, brute-force and ignorance stuff which now has them winning this war after they learned a lot of lessons the hard way. The USA are now sending Ukraine their very latest equipment because they are getting desperate. If WW3 really breaks out, the Russians have already been through their learning curve. The USA and the rest of us have not.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          I’m sure I’ve read that NATO tanks are being converted to electric motors . This is an excellent idea since the number of charging points is being increased a lot .

          It’s important that battles are as ‘green ‘ as possible and that the air isn’t polluted ….

          …Also – I think it is unlikely that the Russians will attack unless they’ve had adequate diversity and health / safety training – there is an embargo on such training so they’ll have to wait ….

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          • Scroblene says:

            Quite right, Fed!

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            • Fedup2 says:

              Thanks Scroblene … lol … maybe they could do ‘in journey ‘ recharging where you link to a recharging van doing 70 mph on the motorway…. Surely better than having to stop overnight to recharge the thing …? The Chinese must be laughing their bits off …

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              • Up2snuff says:

                Fed, do I assume that if I ‘transition’ then a Russian soldier will not shoot me?

                After Blair and Clinton did their ‘climate change’ thing and Clinton insisted that ‘Stealth’ bombers could not fly from friendly nation bases but only from US soil in order to bomb Iraq (in punishment for breaching the ‘no-fly-zone’ sanction) I tried to find out how much heat was generated by a single bullet.

                In the back of my head was lurking the history of early machine guns that had to be water cooled otherwise they overheated and a distorted barrel meant that two rounds could chase each other to extinction along with that of the soldier firing the gun. I’m sure a significant amount of global warming is released every time a trigger is pulled.

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        • Ian Rushlow says:

          Ah, if only there had been some sort of, I don’t know, maybe historic precedent or something, that demonstrates the way Russia fights wars. Okay, I appreciate that mostly they have been on the receiving end in wars, being invaded by the Germans, French, Poles, Swedes and so on over the centuries. But, let’s suppose they have learned from the experiences and will apply it in other conflicts. If only we could work out what it was – it’s such a mystery to military historians, just one of those things we can never know…

          Re the work experience girl on Toady moaning on about Kiev having come under attack for three nights. She might like to read about the sieges of Leningrad and Stalingrad during WWII and ponder what those experiences have left on the Russian psyche.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Ian
            Yes – big differences – the Russian memory of the Great Patriotic War is so very strong . Whereas the British kidult version does know much about any of it – apart from Tom Hanks of course.

            Comparing the Ukrainians to nazis is really gonna hit the patriotic button – as well as the belief that Russia is surrounded by ever more hostile American proxies – like us .

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  42. tomo says:

    Chris Packham head of the RSPCA?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Same Chris Packham that want to reintroduce wolves and lions to the UK
      to rip other wild animals apart ?
      #NatureIsn’tKind

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  43. Guest Who says:

    Given her tendency to blatant propaganda howlers, Nick might want to explain why.

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  44. Guest Who says:

    ‘Speaking truth to power’ is a very BBC phrase.

    Everyone in this clip is BBC or ex BBC.

    Now, slagging off an inept party/government is fine.

    Doing so to get in worse… is pure propaganda.

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  46. tomo says:

    Wonder if this will make it to the BBC … as an example of Tory incompetence?

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  47. Guest Who says:

    BBC TNI partner ‘evolves’ news further.

    Positive becomes neutral.

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  48. Foscari says:

    I was wondering why the BBC does not show us more
    inclusive, diverse, positive discrimination images
    of folk in Kiev, as they are being bombed by
    Vlad the Bad.
    Surely Getty’s could mock up some more diverse ones
    for them using their inclusive advertising models.

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  49. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Harshmistress Mishal dominates TOADY doesn’t she ….

    …. but she has a soft spot for the people of Kyviv after they have had to endure three nights of Russian air attacks. Three nights? Three nights?! Incredible!

    London and Londoners (my parents among them) had to endure over eight months of the Blitz during WW2, including 56 out of 57 nights of continuous bombing. Maybe Harshmistress Mishal Husain should do a little research: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz (usual disclaimers) might be a starting point.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      I think she might take defeat badly …

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, what is wrong with Mishal’s feet?

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Up2
          I often write hear without using me glasses and always thing faster than I type hence the mistakes – I’m not a worshipper of the God of Proof Reading – who is a relative of the newly invented Satan – but meesh and her feet ?

          Crossword clue …

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          • Up2snuff says:

            For defeat, fink Carib, m’maan and de patois from a sunnier warmer place! You ought to speak it like a native coming from that part of London.

            Man, it is cold down hear in the supposedly warm corner of the south-east. Apparently, today will be the hottest day of the year in north-west Scotland. If I put on the kilt I no longer have will it get any warmer here in the south-east?

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  50. tomo says:

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