501 Responses to Midweek 31 May 2023

  1. Kaiser says:

    death to the bbc

       29 likes

    • Dickie says:

      Anti terror plod will be banging on your front door 4 o’clock in the morning Kaiser😂😂😂

         5 likes

  2. digg says:

    BBC

    Is this the most controversial president?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0d9cfyv/turkey-empire-of-erdogan-series-1-episode-1?at_mid=GZZnyKhkHP&at_campaign=Turkey_Empire_Of_Erdogan&at_medium=display_ad&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_origin=discovery_cards&at_link_id=gr01&at_product=iplayer&at_ptr_name=bbc&at_ptr_type=media&at_format=image&at_objective=consumption&at_link_title=Turkey_Empire_Of_Erdogan&at_bbc_team=BBC

    Quite the reverse BBC twats… most people in his country voted for him in fact.

    The headline is designed purely to show the BBC disapproval that’s all.

    We know what you are doing you greasy twats!

    Go Erdegon!

       31 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Erdoğan is guilty of three ‘crimes’ in the eyes of the BBC and the people they work for (in this instance, the Foreign Office):

      Firstly, he is not a globalist. He believes in his own country, its people, its traditions and its values. Turkey is one of a handful of such civilisational states: countries with long, distinct independent histories, strong enough to resist the destructive trash values of globalism. Any such country – Russia, Iran, China – will draw the ire of the globalists and their shrills.

      Secondly, he is a pragmatist. Turkey’s neighbour across the Black Sea is Russia, and any Turkish leader has to accommodate it. When it comes to sanctions, Erdoğan is not going to cut off his nose to spite his face.

      Thirdly, Turkey controls access to the Black Sea through the Bosphorus Straits, via the international 1936 Montreal Convention. This restricts military use of the sea, and the 1982 Amendments allow Turkey to close the Straits altogether in time of war. This does not fit in with NATO and American military plans, which seek unrestricted access and the containment of the Russian navy.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Ian, yes but, no but, aah Erdoğan is one of the BBC’s pet Islamists. They love him for that.

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    • G says:

      Yeah! “Go Erdogan”.

      Last time I looked, Erdogan pushed up inflation to > 85%. April 23 rate? – 43.68%. Just think about that. The Brits whinging at the RPI of 13.1%.
      https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/doge/mm23

         6 likes

  3. Guest Who says:

    Comedy gold.

       17 likes

  4. StewGreen says:

    Warrington Labour MP
    sorry I put it up earlier but it didn’t show cos of a typo

       18 likes

  5. Nibor says:

    Diversity .
    Dont you love it BBC .

    The mass immigration into the UK is great say the BBC types ..

    Therefore the mass migration of Indians into Africa such as Uganda under the British Raj was a Good Thing .
    And ultimately , despite the horrors of the ships transporting them , the mass migration of West Africans to the West Indies is eventually a Good Thing .
    Wise BBC , tell us what to think .

       31 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Bradford is UK City of Culture 2025.

      Bradford has been revealed as the winner of the hotly contested UK City of Culture 2025 competition.

      The year is set to deliver more than 1000 new performances and events including 365 artist commissions, a series of major arts festivals as well as exciting national and international collaborations.

      Its themes will be rooted in the unique heritage and character of Bradford and will reveal the magic of the district that is held in its people, its ambition, and above all, its potential.

      https://bradford2025.co.uk/

         4 likes

      • markh says:

        FFS the only ‘culture’ you’ll find in Bradford are the bacteria cells breeding in the kebab shops.

           27 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Hey come on – it proves that the ‘department of culture ‘ still has a sense of humour – and Liverpool is the current one ?( who cares apart from those getting the bungs and fraudsters )

           12 likes

  6. Nibor says:

    I went past a new build estate at Wellingborough still in construction .
    There was a billboard saying the place was “vibrant ” .

    How do you you produce a “vibrant” area even before you`ve completed building ?

       28 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Same way broadcasters think they generate trusted, transparent, impartial output.

         16 likes

  7. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    International news media happy to create fake news. The BBC is in there too of course.

    Israel Folau is an Australian rugby player who expressed politically incorrect views on the gender issue which threatened his place in the Wallabies a couple of years ago. This was big news down under. I don’t know if it was covered much in the Northern hemisphere, but the International fake news media are all joined together in trying to make us believe that a crowd of over thirty thousand rugby fans were disgusted by his very presence on the field.
    A splendid example of how the Leftard media works.

       19 likes

  8. Guest Who says:

    Have to love bbc tni partners.

       15 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      DOJ watchdog finds Comey violated policies with private memos about Trump

      https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/29/doj-watchdog-finds-comey-violated-policies-with-private-memos-about-trump-1477698

      The Justice Department decided not to prosecute former FBI Director James Comey for retaining memos about interactions with the Trump White House and for disclosing one such memo to the media, the agency’s internal watchdog said in a report released Thursday.

      However, the withering new report from DOJ’s Office of Inspector General sharply criticizes Comey for violating FBI and Justice Department policies on handling information about sensitive law enforcement investigations. Notably, though, the document clears Comey of allegations that he leaked classified information.

         9 likes

  9. andyjsnape says:

    Remember when we just had great and funny tv adverts, the Tango tv advert, in the 80s/90s for example. But now..

    Huel ads banned for misleading food savings claim
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64637704

    Paddy Power ad ban for gambling taking priority
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61801112

    Prison job advert banned for racial stereotyping
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63458435

    Persil advert banned for misleading green claims
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62726666

    Innocent drinks ads banned over environmental claim
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60481080

    Banned, misleading etc

    So much we aren’t allowed to see anymore, just what’s “approved”

    PS you can watch this crap though if you want
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-65762080

    Wonder if there is any news on the invaders still arriving daily in dinghies??

       33 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Air China magazine condemned over ‘racist’ guide to London
      This article is more than 6 years old
      MPs seek apology from ambassador after inflight guide states ‘precautions are needed’ in ethnic minority areas

      Matthew Weaver and agencies
      Wed 7 Sep 2016 18.08 BST

      london-advice.jpg

         27 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      ajs, that’s the problem with having ‘Regulators’ or ‘Czars’ or ‘Watchdogs’. They have to do something to justify their existence and their ever-growing budget and ever-growing staff numbers thanks to the infinite capacity of the public purse.

         12 likes

  10. Guest Who says:

    Emirates on board?

       22 likes

  11. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    What happened to Prudence Potts the Pan Inspector? That’s what I want to know!

    Is she behind bars now?

       6 likes

  12. Guest Who says:

    An effective summary of why voting in elections now is an exercise in futility.

       19 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Dots, Jez, Jim… all of you… dots.

      Try connecting them.

         7 likes

    • G says:

      GW

      Time for a, ‘Peoples Union’ to bring all right-thinking people together and then? We strike just to draw attention to our presence which is largely ignored at present. The power of numbers.

         9 likes

  13. Guest Who says:

    Be funny if the reporting of the racism of the racism turned out to be racist.

       23 likes

    • Sluff says:

      A fine example of the public sector jobs creation merry go round.
      Next they’ll be hiring people to dig holes so that others can fill them in.
      Or as we sometimes say, the NHS!

         2 likes

  14. Guest Who says:

    This image conveys the true message.

       6 likes

  15. Guest Who says:

    Vile’s thug scores an own goal.

    Guess it’s back to that idiot Femi now.

       17 likes

  16. Guest Who says:

    Ex bbc Newsnight Brexit thug JO’bsworth channels an FT poll.

       10 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      If I recall – in the brexit campaign similar polls were done to prove that the UK was for ‘remaining ‘ from the msm to polling companies to celebrities we were going to ‘remain ‘- except that was a lie .

      The state is still for ‘remain ‘- sunak could care less and Johnson believes in nothing except Johnson and breeding –

      – it was a miracle that we sort of left ….but back in by 2030 ….

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      • Guest Who says:

        Polls, studies, and… media ‘news’.

        Most in media don’t live in the countryside , but have second homes there. And travel between them in Teslas.

        Leaving behind their diverse community heroes.

        Meanwhile, on public transport…

        Stabby stabby, Jez… get scythes on them hubs.

           8 likes

        • MarkyMark says:

          v2-Glastonbury-clean-up.jpg?width=1200

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          • markh says:

            Civilisation at its finest. God help us. And wall-to-wall ad nauseam coverage on the BBC to look forward to.

               17 likes

          • moggie63 says:

            I’ve said it before. Don’t allow anybody to leave until there isn’t a single piece of rubbish lying around.

               10 likes

      • jazznick1 says:

        Reply to Fedup2 above

        As I recall the ‘everybody is going to vote remain’ vibe was everywhere right down to Cameron saying he was going to vote ‘remain’ and that he would still be PM whatever happens (that went well).

        Reason Brexit didn’t work as intended was that there was NO PLAN for it.

        The Government, so convinced by MSM, polls, celebs and the Civil Service that remain would win by a landslide no one had even considered that remain would fail.

        Hence the chaos we still have today as all the stuff the leavers thought would happen afterwards, didn’t.

        No one in Government, present or future, really cares.

        The drift back to the EU is slow but your 2030 estimate is about right and the ‘blob’ will get is own way again.

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          • markh says:

            Never trust a man who, when asked what he considered to be his proudest moment as prime minister, answered ‘gay marriage’.

               20 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Jazz – thanks – 2030 is based on the premise that a re elected red Labour Party will use the fixed election after the next election as a sort of ‘referendum ‘ to rejoin ( if we ever left ) …

          The assurances the ReichEU will give to the UK to rejoin will add to the huge pressure building up in the second half of the 2020s with a theme such as ‘ the ReichEU ‘ has improved since the brexit vote and the UK will get ‘special treatment ‘ and be treated ‘differently ‘….
          All lies of course

          Plus the line about those who were stupid enough to vote brexit are mainly dead now – so it’s a ‘different country ‘ – with resident EU citizens who can vote in UK elections ….

          Brexit is doomed … all part of the ‘plan’ …

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Fed, Red Labour are doing their level best to lose the next General Election. Starmer – I think – wants out and he could resign after an Election loss without losing face: hence his current string of ‘Vote Conservative’ Labour policy announcements.

               8 likes

            • Fedup2 says:

              Up2
              Yes – it’s difficult to understand . Surely he -Starmer – must be able to convince his people to keep their mouths shut – no policies – just sit and wait …

              I realise the far left is far less disciplined than the blue labour lot. … maybe they haven’t learnt the lesson that focus groups and polls don’t necessarily work out on polling day – or maybe they are as out of touch with tax payers as the blue labour lot are…

                 7 likes

            • moggie63 says:

              How is he not going to lose face when I suspect most people, Labour supporters included, already think he’s a useless cock?

                 6 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Poll of how many people? All from the BBC?>

      SoylentEU2.jpg

         7 likes

    • G says:

      GW,

      Surely graphs have been mixed up? The one shown must be Climate Change? It will do for that purpose.

         6 likes

  17. Guest Who says:

    What the BBC don’t need you to know is 15 minute cities work great for mayors with SUV convoys, cycling drone freaks and jogging blonde anchors who live next door to ‘work’, getting paid to tell us what is good for them.

       28 likes

  18. Fedup2 says:

    BBC News

    Many items now are just ‘claims ‘ by charities ‘ pressure groups . 2 such cases today are – coloured plod moaning about some crap race programme – more chips than Harry ramsden – the other some green crap about animal fats used to fuel aircraft – whatever …

    Meanwhile – more benefits – yeah – cut down those money trees ….
    … if you can’t afford kids – don’t have them .

       24 likes

    • andyjsnape says:

      Hi Fedup

      I remember when bBC did do “news” and did do “comedy”

      I must be really old 🙂

         26 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      Fedup,
      I don’t expect that you can manage to read every post on the site but I know that you are interested in the RAF , so I recommend reading How the War was Won by Phillips Payson O’Brien which is a comprehensive look at how UK and USA used air and sea power to beat the Axis powers .
      The author demonstrates that without allied supplies via Artic Convoys and the and the relentless bombing of German munitions production by the RAF and USAAF the Soviets couldn’t have resisted the German army even if they had sacrificed even more soldiers than the 12 to 15 million that they lost.
      Japan was being steadily throttled by the US navy and the USAAF fire raids before the atom bombs were dropped obviating the need for a very bloody invasion. Early surrender also kept the Soviets out of Japan.
      The book is full of tables , graphs and quotes from the Allied Grand Strategy makers and conclusively rebuts all the revisionist history that the Strategic Bombing Offensive was ineffective and a waste of resources.

         22 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Double
        Sadly I do read most posts – although I exclude ‘marky ‘ because of the age of the comments and the repetition – which does my head in …

        … but since you raise the WW2 air war – you’ve given me the opportunity to review ‘big week’ (James Holland ) – when the combination of an ever strengthening RAF and US air force smashed Germany .

        Although the book covers a lot of well known stuff – such as the evolution of the P51 and bomber tactics -it does highlight the huge advantage US pilots had over Germans – a lot of US pilots had 100s of hours learning to fly and then fights- whereas the Germans had fewer hours, planes and fuel . It’s amazing they lasted as long as they did.

        The shortcomings of senior command ( with hindsite ) is often embarrassing – such as the slowness in realising the value of fighter escorts all the way too and from Germany – as well as target selection itself .

        But the cost in crews and aircraft ? Perhaps it cost us – the UK – far too much …. The loss of all those high quality young men cost us dear . We are still paying the price ….

        I’m onto The Cruel Sea now .. but will look at the book you suggest …..

        I do wonder about the cost the US paid in the Pacific when it was all ‘resolved ‘ by 2 nuclear weapons …. I think it was a pity one wasn’t developed quick enough to drop on Berlin while hitler was there…

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    • Guest Who says:

      Saves leaving the cubicles.

      And all can be ‘verified’ online.

      Reports suggest.

         7 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      BBC PRasNews is now almost completely comprised of approved press releases emailed to the cubicles, vetted, and then copy pasted.

      They probably block emails form unapproved sources as they do on twitter.

      Live in a bubble… fine until it pops.

         7 likes

  19. Fedup2 says:

    Today

    The bee lady becomes more repulsive . She it interviewing some blue labour drone called Mel stride . The repulsive bee lady wants more – free this free that – controlled food costs . I was waiting for her to suggest nationalising all supermarkets –

    The hapless ‘Tory ‘ started listed all the recent give aways and benefits increased – paid for by increased taxes on people actually working as well as printing more money any borrowing more money ….
    I don’t understand why blue labour think throwing money at benefits junkies is gonna get them votes . It won’t . The junkies will just want a bigger fix

    Maybe when they are out of office they might realise that ….

    I can see the level of control the bbc wants pushing this country into becoming an Eastern European soviet one where we are told all is well when in fact only ‘approved ‘ party members live a life worth living .

    Sometimes it’s good not to be ‘young ‘…

       21 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      Apparently Sunak is a great lover of honey and believes that all apiaries should be confiscated , without compensation to the owners , and run by Albanians who are famous for their honey. After all true socialism demands that there is no private property .

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    • G says:

      Fed,

      Thought For Today, today. A new voice. That of another “Siddiqui”. Can’t remember the first name. Nepotism at work? Carrying on the families work for the BBC. No doubt another muslim. Let’s remember that, “Siddiq” is Arabic for, ‘Friend’. The addition of ‘ui’ makes it, ‘my friend’.

      No friends of mine.

         16 likes

    • Charlie Farley says:

      Fedup2 ,
      Remember when Lenin and Russia were the BBC and Labour Heroes ? …..we’ll keep the Red Flag flying and all that , Lord Mandelson and his Russian Billionaire boy friend rarely mentioned now ! . Putin doesn’t get a lookin …..wrong sort of Russian then ? , USSR could do no wrong but Russian Federation obviously not good enough for our BBC and their political wing the Labour Party !

         8 likes

  20. Guest Who says:

    I’d sympathise with the Graun, but, hey, crocodiles eat each other last.

       14 likes

  21. StewGreen says:

    9am R4 the stats fact checking prog
    What will be their spin ?
    “Does Britain really have the most affordable food in Europe?
    (NFU president said so)

    We also try and make sense of the latest net migration figures,
    ask if dating apps are making Gen Z more single

    and explain why a correction to a correction on Radio 4’s Farming Today wasn’t quite right”

       11 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      true, cos UK wages are so high, as a percentage of income food is cheaper than most countries
      8% below EU average

      Now they trying to spin it another way

      but basically UK food is affordable
      but UK housing is not so

      They failed to quote stats for UK housing costs

         11 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      on immigration they waffled
      and then said they’ll do an immigration stats special on July 5th

      Then the farming prog stat
      they had stated that UK beef consumption was 200 times more than it is.
      Then in their correction they said the original stat was actually*world* BEEF consumption, that was a mistake.. it’s world MEAT consumption

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  22. Guest Who says:

    Trusted, transparent, impartial frequent bbc expert guest opines…

    One for Verify?

    https://www.channel4.com/news/by/jon-snow/blogs/why-were-tony-blairs-expenses-shredded

       15 likes

  23. Guest Who says:

    Might be a spoof. Probably not. Could Springster check?

       18 likes

  24. Guest Who says:

    Getty top of the class.

    Getty bad. Bad Getty.

       14 likes

    • markh says:

      Some poor struggling underfed gents there. Bless.

         14 likes

      • MarkyMark says:

        It said over the year, 760,000 people used a food bank in its network for the first time, an increase of 38% year-on-year. This included an unprecedented rise in the number of employed people, who are no longer able to balance a low income against rising living costs.25 Apr 2023

        ………………

        Britain saw net migration of 606,000 people in 2022, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said, with 1.2 million people arriving in the country and about half that number leaving.6 days ago

           8 likes

        • dhunter says:

          wonder if you have to prove you are skint before you can get free food & how would you prove that?

          seems obvious to me that many will take advantage, so no wonder the number has gone up, as MSM have pushed the food bank story for 2/3 years now.

             3 likes

  25. MarkyMark says:

    £33,000 – for how many hours work?

    Register of Members’ Interests
    Barry Gardiner

    From 22 November 2022 until further notice, I provide consultancy advice to the World Climate Initiative, 8th Floor, 167 Fleet Street, London EC3A 2EA.
    I receive £33,000 per annum, paid monthly, to assist with the recruitment of senior staff to the World Climate Institute, identify potential partners, provide advice on programme development, and assist in the drafting of its mission statement and objectives. Hours: 12 hrs per month. (Registered 14 December 2022)

    https://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=10220

    ……

    https://theworldclimateinstitute.org/about/
    https://theworldclimateinstitute.org/events/

    Barry Gardiner
    Member of Parliament, United Kingdom
    Director, Climate Parliament

    In Conversation
    Climate Leadership – What Now, What Next?
    World leaders have been empowering initiatives and dialogues toward a low-carbon economy to further/boost climate action.
    With the world looking more and more to the south to lead on climate action and COP28 a year ahead, where do the future course of action and opportunities for collaboration lie?

    ………………

    Dear Darren Henry,

    Can you reconcile these two statements please ….

    Barry Gardiner defends donations worth £500,000 from Chinese agent.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/barry-gardiner-chinese-lee-sky-news-jeremy-corbyn-b1992752.html

    The code also sets out the general ‘duties of members’ (to be faithful to the Queen, to uphold the law, to act in the interests of the nation and especially constituents…
    https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/article/explainer/mps-code-conduct

    £500K from a Chinese spy.
    Act in the interests of the nation.

    Yours sincerely,
    Mr M

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  26. MarkyMark says:

    Hundreds of people gathered outside the Oxford Union to protest against a talk by the gender-critical academic, Kathleen Stock.

    Prof Stock had said she was “very determined” for the talk to go ahead, despite some students responding angrily to her invitation to the event.

    Some say her views on gender identity are transphobic.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-65714821

    ……………………..

    ‘My first thought as I came round was Oh God! What have I done?’: Man suing the NHS over trans surgery he bitterly regrets has bravely waived anonymity to share his ordeal
    Ritchie Herron, 35, says life has been unbearable since surgery four years ago
    His case first emerged after he shared experience on Twitter under pseudonym
    He claims NHS failed to take mental health crisis into account before procedure
    By SANCHEZ MANNING FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY

    PUBLISHED: 22:11, 25 June 2022 | UPDATED: 17:16, 28 June 2022
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10953157/Man-suing-NHS-trans-surgery-regrets-bravely-waived-anonymity-share-ordeal.html

       10 likes

  27. Guest Who says:

    Vile cites a caller, who says stuff, based on ‘belief’.

    This looks set to be fun.

       19 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Civil Service values
      The statutory basis for the management of the Civil Service is set out in Part 1 of the Constitutional Reform and Governance Act 2010.

      The Civil Service is an integral and key part of the government of the United Kingdom[footnote 1]. It supports the government of the day in developing and implementing its policies, and in delivering public services. Civil servants are accountable to ministers[footnote 2], who in turn are accountable to Parliament[footnote 3].

      As a civil servant, you are appointed on merit on the basis of fair and open competition and are expected to carry out your role with dedication and a commitment to the Civil Service and its core values: integrity, honesty, objectivity and impartiality. In this code:

      ‘integrity’ is putting the obligations of public service above your own personal interests

      ‘honesty’ is being truthful and open

      ‘objectivity’ is basing your advice and decisions on rigorous analysis of the evidence

      ‘impartiality’ is acting solely according to the merits of the case and serving equally well governments of different political persuasions

      https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/civil-service-code/the-civil-service-code

      serving equally well governments of different political persuasions

      serving equally well governments of different political persuasions

      serving equally well governments of different political persuasions

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Comment “Blob threatens to go on strike over Rwanda deal Please do – then they are all in breach of contract and can be fired with no pay off. so she giving out false information and you as a Labour channel left wing love lies .”

         23 likes

  28. StewGreen says:

    Radio Humberside local news had a long item
    “A pride topper placed on a pillar box in Brough on Monday was stolen on Tuesday morning, there is video of a person disguised in a sheet”

    phto : another pride pillar box

    FxHfO9wWAAENycT?format=jpg&name=small

       11 likes

    • Charlie Farley says:

      StewGreen ,
      Ooeerr Missus which slot to use….! , I expect all BBC offices are full of rainbow regalia now , do they have a Rainbow discrimination department ?

         7 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        @Charlie : A true pride postbox, has no front slot
        You just put your male in the back door.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      So look at Ukraine’s problem. Ukrainian soldiers are not being instructed at Ukrainian bases on Ukrainian soil by Ukrainian officers. Nope. Ukrainian troops are being trained in the United Kingdom, Germany, Poland, France and Italy. Would you be surprised to learn that each of those countries employ different methods for teaching everything from marksmanship, marching, unit maneuvers and personal hygiene? I am not suggesting that the respective NATO countries are doing a poor job of training the Ukrainian units under their care. However, once those Ukrainian troops return home and are deployed to the front lines it is highly likely that a unit trained in the United Kingdom will operate differently from a unit trained in France. In other words, lack of uniformity. That creates a command and control challenge.

      Lack of uniformity also is a problem because of the variety of weapons issued to Ukrainian troops. Anti-tank weapons illustrates the dilemma. The photos below show a British NLAW and a U.S. Javelin missile. Both are designed to kill a tank, but the procedures a soldier must follow to fire a NLAW differs from a Javelin. The Javelin, for example, is equipped with an optic, the NLAW is not. I am not saying that a soldier cannot be trained to use both. Of course they can. But the reality is that these anti-tank weapons are being delivered to Ukrainian troops who have not had the opportunity to go through a training regimen to make them proficient in either or both.
      https://sonar21.com/the-importance-of-uniform-as-ukraine-contemplates-an-offensive/

      We see the same discord when it comes to the tanks, vehicles and planes that have been or will be supplied to Ukraine. This diversity adds another level of complexity because of the various maintenance requirements for these systems. It means you need an ample supply of spare parts and, most importantly, trained technicians who know how to do the mechanical work maintain or repair the vehicle or aircraft.

      ………………..

      “United in diversity”, the motto of the European Union, first came into use in 2000. It signifies how Europeans have come together, in the form of the EU, to work for peace and prosperity, while at the same time being enriched by the continent’s many different cultures, traditions and languages.

         11 likes

  29. Foscari says:

    The BBC diversity department must be having orgasms. I
    expect BIG BROTHER has sent down to Oxford a
    plethora of recruitment staff to inform those protesting
    undergraduates against Kathleen Stock that a job is
    waiting for them at the BBC. Whatever degree they get
    or don’t get.

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  30. Fedup2 says:

    From the DT – the guardian and its’ high moral ground

    STARTS
    When the Left-wing commentator Nick Cohen left The Observer in November on “health grounds”, his bosses praised his “brilliant” and “incisive” journalism as they wished him the best for his future.

    What they did not mention was that Mr Cohen left the newspaper with a settlement following complaints of sexual harassment that spanned a period of 17 years.

    Guardian News and Media (GNM), which owns The Observer and The Guardian, has now been accused of a cover-up after seven women claimed they were harassed by him both inside and outside the workplace.

    Some of his alleged victims have accused GNM of failing to act on complaints they made to managers over a period of years.

    For his part, Mr Cohen has claimed that his downfall was the result of a bitter internal row over transgender rights that has opened a schism at the centre of The Guardian.

    The fallout from the Cohen affair has also prompted recriminations at the Financial Times (FT), where an investigation by a prominent journalist into the goings-on at The Guardian was spiked by the business newspaper’s editor.
    STOPS

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Jo Cox husband sorry amid claims he grabbed woman by throat and said ‘I want to f*** you’
      THE husband of murdered MP Jo Cox has apologised for “causing women hurt” following claims he held a woman by the throat saying “I want to f*** you”.

      Bookmark
      NEWS
      ByRachel O’DonoghueAssistant News Editor
      10:40, 18 FEB 2018UPDATED11:52, 18 FEB 2018

      https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/brendan-cox-sexual-assault-jo-16847977

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      • Sluff says:

        Sometimes it’s worth repeating the best stories…….
        To keep reminding ourselves of the utter hypocrisy of the left….

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  31. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    In the Daily Mail this morning there’s a mistake (I think)
    Can you spot it.
    I’ve copied and pasted the relevant bit below:

    These snaps will leave you grateful that you don’t have these workers’ jobs. (Pictured clockwise from L: Pizza workers in Texas are shattered after a hard shit, a builder accidentally traps himself in concrete, and a supermarket worker smashes several crates of wine).

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  32. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch#1 – Nick Robinson is feeling cold ….

    …. so in a rare moment of honesty for a Met Office presenter, Sarah Keith Lucas, admits “It is cold.” Something to do with the cloud, she says. “And the wind direction, straight off the Russian Steppe”, I said but Sarah doesn’t hear me.

    The West of England is benefitting from the nor’Easterly and the UHI-effect (that’s Urban Heat Island, Fed) and will have the warmest temperatures for those lucky people in the sunshine in Somerset.

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Up2.
      It’s a balmy 11 degrees here in Sunderland right now. (11 o clock am)
      Hoping to reach 14 degrees next week if we’re lucky.
      Typical government, promising global warming but failing to deliver.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Here the forecast max is 14C
        Now more of this fine mist rain, like yesterday
        the neighbours are doing the garden, wearing big overcoats
        One is wearing one of those Russian hats

        Next actual rain is June 13th
        For Cornwall it’s June 8th

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        • taffman says:

          Down in taffland its 16C so far, but on the radio we hear “it could be the hottest day of the year” !

          Of course, every year has a hottest day of the year , even on the North Pole .
          Idiots . Or “Nudge” at work ?

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    • Loobyloo says:

      Same in east anglia, it’s bloody cold. I’m wearing two jumpers and the heating’s clicked on.

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  33. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    If the civil snowflakes are allowed to only work on the issues they agree with then logically others should be able to do the same.
    Would Firemen not put out fires on buildings if the owner or business was a UKIP voter.
    Would surgeons only operate on lefties and leave those on the right to die.
    Would soldiers only fight in wars which they thought were good ones, Falklands good, Ireland bad type of thing.
    Would the police only harass and arrest those it disliked but allow those it agreed with to carry on….in fact, that’s already happening so disregard that.

    Are the rest of us in the ‘normal’ world going to be allowed to only do work tasks we agree with.

    These civil snowflakes need a massive rocket up their ar*es and most need sacking and be replaced by people actually willing to do the job they are (well) paid to do.

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  34. Nibor says:

    Why are we seeing more of Alistaire Campbell now than when he was power behind the scenes when Labour were in office ?

       17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Nibor – I think Campbell has personal knowledge ( files ) on a lot of msm types . Also – he is a known performer – but generally stays within permitted BBCOFCOM guidelines – and I bet he knows plenty at BBCOFCOM too …

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  35. MarkyMark says:

    Make_Me_Prime_Minister_promotional_image.jpg

    https://www.channel4.com/programmes/make-me-prime-minister

    Alastair Campbell and Baroness Sayeeda Warsi put 12 ambitious Brits through their political paces, as they compete to be crowned Channel 4’s Alternative Prime Minister. Who has what it takes?

    …………………..

    Tell MAMA (Measuring Anti-Muslim Attacks) speech {by Baroness Warsi – jan2013 }
    https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/tell-mama-measuring-anti-muslim-attacks-speech

    “The negative perception of Muslims. An underlying, unfounded mistrust. A misinformed suspicion of people who follow Islam.

    Now it’s our duty to counteract this perception of Muslims. (a perception problem is different to facing the truth) To those who say that there is a conflict of being loyal to Britain and a Muslim, you have to look no further than Mohamed Farah. Our national hero is a practising Muslim. The double gold medallist saw no conflict between crossing the finish line in the Union Flag and dropping to the ground in prayer.(was the flag submitting to Allah in this display of Patriotism?) In fact, he showed how seamlessly religion and patriotism can go together.

    As one survey revealed (no reference given), 83% of Muslims said they were proud to be British, compared to 79% of Britons overall.”

    But we have conflicting data …83% Muslims proud to be British verses 1% Muslims want Freedom of Speech/Press

    “…BBC poll in 2015 found that 27% of British Muslims had quote ‘Some sympathy’ (27% or a third) for the people who went into the offices of Charlie Hebdo and killed the cartoonists, editors and journalists there. Channel 4 poll from last year (2015), found that only 1% of UK Muslims think that publications should have the right to publish the cartoons of Mohammed.”
    – Douglas Murray (2016?)

       9 likes

    • tomo says:

      Public money funded promo for Warsi and that twat – what’s not to like?

         8 likes

      • MarkyMark says:

        Who owns Channel 4?
        Channel Four Television Corporation was set up by an Act of Parliament. It is a publicly owned not-for-profit corporation and does not have any shareholders.

        https://www.channel4.com/corporate/about-4/operating-responsibly/freedom-information/frequently-asked-questions

        …………..

        Who runs Channel 4?
        The Board is appointed by the television regulator – Ofcom – in agreement with the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport. The current Chief Executive is Alex Mahon and the current Chairman is Charles Gurassa.

        You can find out more about the Chief Executive, Senior Management and the Board of Directors, including the most recent remuneration information, in our latest Annual Report.

        ……………

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      I hope you downloaded the video because “This video is no longer available because the Youtube account associated with this video has been terminated”

      You posted your comment around 11 am and at 3 pm just four hours later the Youtube account has been terminated.

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  36. StewGreen says:

    Mike Graham has clashed with a Labour MP after she praised crowds who chanted “f**k the Tories” at a festival in Warrington.

    In a tweet, MP for Warrington North Charlotte Nichols said: “Big chants of ‘f**k the Tories’ for Jamie Webster at NBHD Weekender and, I can’t lie, I absolutely LOVE to see it! Love you Warrington.”

    Charlotte joined Mike Graham on his show to discuss why she praised the chants.

    Mike said: “You as an elected representative and someone who has spoken out about the dangers of abuse online, shouldn’t be encouraging it!”

    Mike “You’ve talked a lot in the past about the toxicity of social media
    and how unfortunate things that are said on the internet can lead to problems in real life
    and I thought to myself well hang on a minute this is a bit of a hypocritical tweet to put out isn’t it ?

    MP @charlotte2153 “I don’t think it is, because the sorts of things that I’m talking about are some of the conspiracy theories around vaccines
    misinformation that’s put out about various people
    It’s those sorts of things that I’m talking about

    I don’t think a generic chants about a political party is part of that kind of toxicity (dimwit)
    and I don’t think that it can be considered an incitement to violence ”

    Mike :”but don’t you think that if you go around saying things like f the Tories that that will encourage people to hate the Tories and hate people who are Tories ? …”

    He is right imagine if a concert crowd said “fk the Muslims”

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Not too far from making ‘tories ‘ wear a badge . After all the Far Left already call on boycotts of businesses …. Nice touch of the 1930s that …

         8 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

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      • G says:

        MM,

        “130000 killed……”

        Small numbers. If the Davos cabal (via Rich Sunak & Co) have their wicked way we shall soon see starvation on a massive scale. Worldwide and the object of the exercise. The dictators / totalitarians ‘go-to’ to kill off the population. It worked for Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and many of their juniors so why not try it again since Covid failed to achieve the same endings.

        Happy days…………

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    • StewGreen says:

      MP ” I love the fact that people are blaming who is responsible for their problems rather than scapegoating people that aren’t responsible which the government’s been trying to get them to do”

      Mike “but you’ve said I’ve had someone come to my office with a knife before
      I’ve had physical violence against me and then she says a lot of that has been whipped up by things that have been said online don’t you think that’s what you’ve just done ?”

      MP “No it has been whipped up by things that have been said online including all sorts of grand conspiracy theories”

      Mike “so you think people should hate the Tories then ?”

      MP “I think people should HATE the government yeah

      Mike “You also said this –I think ultimately that in all of us in some form of public life whether it’s in the council chamber or the Chamber of Westminster need to be modeling a good kind of debate that is based on policies and not personal attacks–
      How is that in any way uequal to what you’ve endorsed ?”

      MP “again show me where it’s a personal attack on anyone”
      Mike “well you’re basically encouraging people to hate the Tories”

      She goes for the “ah well I mean the government, not individuals” angle #SOPHISTRY

         12 likes

      • MarkyMark says:

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        • Flotsam says:

          I can tell you all that Rayner thinks she is Royalty and expects people she meets to treat her as such. I can’t say how I know this. She’s a fake champagne socialist upstart

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      • StewGreen says:

        Mike “why is it I hate Tories okay
        and I hate Jews not okay ?”

        MP “because the Tories are in government
        and have given people reason to hate them”

        …. MP “it’s just utterly bizarre !

        Mike “well you think it’s bizarre because you’re so removed from reality”

        MP “I’m the one that’s removed from reality me ?”

        Mike “yeah you are you are actually
        have you looked at some of the comments underneath ?”

           9 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        Mike You tweeted on Jan Jan 15 about Suella Braverman
        –Fk her and fk you.–”

        That obviously contradicts her line
        “I think ultimately that in all of us in some form of public life whether it’s in the council chamber or the Chamber of Westminster need to be modeling a good kind of debate that is based on policies and not personal attacks

           10 likes

        • StewGreen says:

          Mike “can you define a woman for me please Charlotte”
          MP “blah blah Tories !”

          Mike “I just asked you what a woman is .. what are you giving me a speech for ? .. what’s a woman ?

          MP “this is just it’s a ridiculous question, a woman is a female”

          Mike “why does Keir Starmer think some females have penises ?”

          MP “because The Equality Act says that they can”
          Mike “so you think it so you think a woman can have a penis ?”
          MP ” legally since 2010 yes they can”
          …..
          End bit
          MP “I hate The Tories ! … blah blah”

          Mike : “and you don’t think that that is in any way encouraging violence against Tory MPs do you ?

          MP “No I don’t
          and I think it’s pathetic that you’re trying to claim that it is ”

          Mike “well I think you’re terribly totally hypocritical”

          Then when a woman points out saying “Fk the Tories” makes it dangerous for young female aspiring Tory politicians .. the MP replies back with a sneer tweet https://twitter.com/charlotte2153/status/1662559093138116609

          Oh people exposed even more hypocrisy
          .. https://twitter.com/ChiefScrobbler/status/1662893869128613889

             12 likes

  37. tomo says:

    I see another “green” energy corp titsup and owing people money – can’t be many left…

    If it ain’t on the BBC it didn’t happen.

       10 likes

  38. Fedup2 says:

    Bit vexed now . How come the holly / Phil thing is still running – if sodomy is legal between consenting adults surely there’s nothing to see – particularly amongst amoral TV journo types …

       17 likes

    • Concrete sea says:

      Fedup. It has months to run yet. MP’s planning to question ITV executives. After all that’s what I voted my MP in for. Then a judicial enquiry. Perhaps a documentary, (careful with the title ‘Schofields reached the bottom’ or ‘The rise and fall of Philip’ may be inappropriate), a book or two, not forgetting the inevitable musical. The only hope is for some other ‘newsworthy story’ equally banal and boring to come along in the meantime.

         11 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Call that trivia? Now, THIS is…

        Verify may differ, but it seems to be poor saps who think they have to.

           14 likes

    • andyjsnape says:

      Hello Fedup

      Maybe the bBC is to do a month long “reminder” of Jimmy Saville, just so we dont forget what happened on the bbc’s watch

         9 likes

    • JohnC says:

      It’s quite bizarre.

      As much as I dislike the nasty chirpy chipmunk, all I can work out he did wrong was have a gay affair and didn’t tell anyone because he was a married public figure. I reckon half the people in the dirty luvvie business have secrets like Phil.

      Now the media have done what they do best : ganged up together and vilified him completely and his back is full of knives.

      So as pleased as I am I won’t have to stumble across him when I turn the TV on, it all stinks to high heaven and I can only assume that – as usual – there is far more to this story than we are being told. It is likely everybody in the business knows he is like his brother (like they all knew about Saville) – but without actual evidence, they dare not say it. Then when it breaks they are on it like a pack of hyenas.

         7 likes

  39. Guest Who says:

    On matters Establishment Bubble…

    Ladders, snakes…

       10 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Dear Marianna Spring (BBC wages paid under threat of prosecution),

      As I’ve had to look at your BBC news and use other sources to determine that your news is not news but selective editorial opinion I’d like to request that I have a refund for the last 4 years plus get the BBC free from now on.

      Please let me know how I can go about this as I am willing to create a full list of articles that I’ve had to investigate plus time taken for me to check your fact checker whilst realising that the BBC intentionally removes news rather than incorrectly report on it, uses images to sway opinion or misleads with the main titles hoping no one reads the full article.

      ‘Omission is the greatest form of lie.’

      CAS-4987700-SY1FTF : BBC NewsWatch says boredom with pro-Brexit march.

      CAS-4844672-N8FDYY: Update on the MP Expenses 2009 scandal in 2018.

      CAS-4939547-J71Z1V: Here’s hoping Ireland do the right thing G.Lineker.

      CAS-4937378-YKMWBJ: BBC not reporting ‘Day of Freedom’ March 06may2018.

      CAS-4906141-BFJQL0: I take offence that presenters promote their books.

      CAS-4892811-C820SC: I am offended that I have to pay the BBC TV Tax.

      CAS-4824332-633N1P: What happened in Italy was not covered …

      CAS-4933135-ZV3V7F: The omission is the most powerful form of lie …

      CAS-6005141-S1V9D1: Not seen a report on the UK Governments Covid19 

      Let me know how to go about resolving the issue of paying for something that wastes my time as I have to check each story rather than rely on its accuracy.

      Cheers,
      Mark
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications

         4 likes

  40. Guest Who says:

    And on snakes…

    ‘Gammon’ was surely made for Jimbo? And his acolytes. He’d fit right in that striker Getty earlier.

    The odious hypocrite is getting desperate now.

    And many comments suggests the fatigue is with his miseralbist, single track ideologically isolated schtick.

       10 likes

  41. MarkyMark says:

    The sports ministers of five European countries have urged broadcasters and Fifa to “quickly reach an agreement” on Women’s World Cup TV rights, with only 50 days until the tournament begins.

    Fifa president Gianni Infantino threatened a European TV blackout if rights offers were not improved.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65764408

    “He feels gay and qatari at the same time”

       6 likes

  42. Dickie says:

    It’s a mad, mad, mad world:

    https://daily.jstor.org/the-complicated-issue-of-transableism/

       5 likes

  43. MarkyMark says:

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  44. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    We know the BBC has been given emergency funding plus additional funding from the British Government to produce anti-Russian sentiment among the British public including incitement to hate. The following gives the homepage headline and a link to a bbc article that is currently the leader on their international website and in their world news section:

    Ukraine mothers go behind enemy lines to save stolen children: Russia is taking Ukrainian children. Their mothers are travelling into enemy territory to save them.”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65641304

    If anyone has the the time to read it and comment upon it I will be grateful.

       8 likes

  45. andyjsnape says:

    Peas that don’t taste like peas could help the planet
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65610025

    Peas that done taste like peas – bbc staff can eat them then

    “As more and more people turn to plant-based food” – I dont know anyone who this applies to

       16 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      China’s middle class is developing a taste for high-end meat, sending imports surging
      China’s growing middle class and greater consumer awareness about the origins of food have driven up demand for higher quality meat
      In the first 10 months of 2021, sales of Spanish cured hams and shoulders grew more than 32.96 per cent in value to be worth 17.35 million euros (US$19.6 million)
      Luna Sun
      Luna Sun in Beijing
      + FOLLOW
      Published: 12:00pm, 28 Jan, 2022

         4 likes

    • Mrs Kitty says:

      Ashamed to say my sister in law and one of her sprogs is vegan, every time it gets me wanting a bacon sandwich when I think of them. Oh well full English breakfast for main meal tonight.

         17 likes

      • Charlie Farley says:

        Mrs Kitty ,
        I know someone who is a food flavour Scientist and works for one of the large companies , any flavour you like as long as there’s big profit ! , I wouldn’t eat any of these meat free products…..you would be shocked to know what happens when things go wrong…let’s just say nothing ever gets wasted !

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        • Scroblene says:

          The hugely fanfared shelves showing vegan muck were going to be the way forward for the supermarkets a couple of years ago, but somehow the stuff they chuck up there doesn’t seem quite as popular as they thought nowadays!

          The hideously expensive price for such crap is an off-putter for a start, and to see such idiotic marketing campaign for ‘plant-burgers’ is just ridiculous!

          I wonder how many food banks, (funded by normal citizens in these supermarkets), have vegan rubbish chucked in?

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      “As more and more people turn to plant-based food”

      Hardly. Oatly, Nestle, Innocent Drinks and Heck Sausages have all cut their ranges due to insufficient demand, sales in the UK have stagnated, whilst the share price of some manufacturers and suppliers has plummeted. This article was published less than two weeks ago (trigger warning: it’s The Guardian).

      https://www.theguardian.com/food/2023/may/20/has-the-vegan-bubble-burst-sales-stagnate-in-uk-as-brands-withdraw-plant-based-products

         11 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        As above, Ian – you’re better informed than me because you read something in the grauniad, and I hope you’ve recovered by now!

        The vegan shelves in out Tesco are hidden by all sorts of stuff normal citizens hardly ever stock up with, like weedkiller and shoe polish…

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  46. Dickie says:

    Marianna Spring on the case? BBC Verify investigating the Grayzone?

    https://thegrayzone.com/2023/05/29/grayzone-national-endowment-democracy-vp-cia/

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