275 Responses to Weekend 8 July 2023

  1. Up2snuff says:

    Not three in a row?! I just happened to look back in, honest Brissles, you have got to believe me. 🙂

    Have a good weekend everyone and think about ditching the TellyTax if you have not already done so.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      You are priceless Up2 ! x

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Brissles, my dear old thing, (Well it is looking a bit tricky in the Headingley Test Match) No, ‘priceless’ is the Lord Jesus Christ, but whoever touches me touches the ‘apple of God’s eye’ (Psalm 17v8). But good wishes to you for your recovery from whatever has been ailing you. I’m sure that will be echoed by everyone on here. You’ve got an Ashes series to help win 🙂 so hopefully you will be back posting on here soon.

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  2. StewGreen says:

    Catchup links to last posts on the previous thread
    page 5
    page 4

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  3. Fedup2 says:

    From the DT – for your amusement –

    STARTS
    Wealthier households should have to pay more for the BBC, Richard Sharp has suggested in his first interview since standing down as chairman of the broadcaster.

    Mr Sharp said the licence fee could be replaced by a tax on broadband bills or a household levy based on the value of the property as the current system of a flat fee is “regressive”.

    The Government is currently considering whether to replace the ÂŁ159-a-year licence fee, which funds the work of the BBC, with a different funding model after 2027.

    The cost of a TV licence is due to begin rising with inflation next year after a two-year freeze comes to an end.

    Speaking to the final edition of The Telegraph’s Chopper’s Politics podcast on Friday, Mr Sharp said he worried the licence fee was regressive because those on lower incomes paid the same as wealthier households.

    “I would be in favour of a form of a mandatory payment – currently the licence fee. There is one issue which is it’s regressive, which may need to be addressed,” he said. Households on lower incomes “paid the same price” for their public service broadcasting.

    He added: “You can look at models around the world, there’s a broadband tax, there’s a household tax and there’s the licence fee. Change is disruptive from moving from one mechanism that works to another.”

    Lucy Powell, the shadow culture secretary, suggested earlier this year that a Labour government would consider means-testing the fee.

    Mr Sharp said he was standing down from the BBC in April after an inquiry found he had failed to disclose his involvement in helping to facilitate an ÂŁ800,000 loan to Boris Johnson when he was prime minister.

    The investigation, conducted by Adam Heppinstall KC, found that Mr Sharp had “failed to disclose potential perceived conflicts of interest” to the cross-party panel of MPs which scrutinised his appointment.

    Mr Sharp said that his successor as BBC chairman could be a Conservative Party donor, but warned that anyone who took the job would have a “target” on their back.

    He said: “When there was a Labour-supporting chair, there’s a target. So the short answer is yes. It’s a sufficiently important institution that whoever is the chair is vulnerable.

    “I don’t think the fact that I had donated to the party, and I think the last party donation was in 2010, should have disqualified me.

    “But it does mean that in the recruitment process, they need to assure themselves that the chairperson will take as a primary objective the strength of the BBC as an independent organisation and should behave in an impartial manner.”

    ‘Anger-tainment’ news coverage
    He would advise anyone trying to succeed him to “make sure you and your family know what you’re getting into” because of an increase in what he described as “anger-tainment” news coverage which led to “ad hominem attacks” to get “clicks and connection”.

    In the wide-ranging interview, when asked about Gary Lineker’s behaviour on social media, Mr Sharp said that the issue of social media engagement by BBC freelancers and staff was “something that needed to be addressed”.

    The former chairman also said that he was concerned that the way the licence fee was enforced meant women were disproportionately likely to be prosecuted for non-payment when inspectors came calling.

    Evading the licence fee is a crime. Almost 1,000 people a week – seven out of 10 of whom are women – are prosecuted for failing to pay their licence fee.

    Unlike the non-payment of utility bills and parking tickets, which are treated as civil matters, those who refuse to pay the television licence can receive a criminal record if they fail to pay the court fine.

    ‘Obviously it’s regressive’
    He said: “The two challenges are obviously it’s regressive and also that the collection process can fall harder on women because women often answer the door [when TV licence inspectors call].

    “It is imperfect. The question is, ‘Is there a better system and what is the disruption that is going to be caused to changing it?’ And this is for a debate for Parliament.

    “Both sides broadly support the BBC. So I think there are ideologues who have a different view, but I think they’re in the minority. And then it’s up to the BBC to actually deliver content.”

    However, Mr Sharp warned that decriminalising the licence fee could lead to more people being dragged through the civil courts over non-payment.

    He said: “The sanction itself drives behaviour. If you go to civil litigation, you actually can increase the amount of litigation that takes place. So it’s not as obvious as you think.

    “As a result of people paying the licence fee, you get a common good, which is you get an incredible value for what people are actually paying on a household basis.”ENDS

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, I just referenced this on the Midweek Thread, in a reply to JohnC. Great minds think alike! 🙂

      Night, night!

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Indeed …. How is the BBC covering the fall of the Dutch Government ? After all – it’s an EU ‘friend ‘ in BBC world – what is being said about the Dutch states’ war against farming ?

        Or are they mourning the loss of a BBC favourite – a mr Murray lol 😎

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, apparently Richard Sharp is proposing that a BBC TellyTax is added to Broadband charges, something that was not clear yesterday. Trouble with that is that everyone pays Broadband charges, even ‘poor students’ at University.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Sharp by name but not by ideas – or the ability to see his downfall when truth comes out . Let’s face it – he got the gig because he wanted the big gong like the rest of the swamp .

            He’d never be able to do anything to the BBC – it’s as much fire proof as their NHS …. Which really are the untouchable twin curses of Britain ….

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Fed, I was thinking ‘albatrosses’ when the BBC were celebrating the centenary of the NHS. And you might add the Home Office and Windrush to your list of ‘curses’. Could be a long list.

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              • Fedup2 says:

                A whole series of post war national self harm .. with much more to come – i think for a lot of wokes it will be shocking . …

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                • Up2snuff says:

                  Fed, indeed, post-war sums it up. I had one teacher at Secondary School (1960s) who was a proto-extreme Thatcherite; you’da loved him. I remember his warnings to this day. And I could tell you a lengthy tale of 1960s cannabis consumption from a pharmacist friend of mine but not now. Things to do, places to go, people to see, etc.

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    • taffman says:

      Fedup2
      The BBC ?
      They take us all for fools!
      Scrap the parasitic outfit.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      I’ve felt for the last few years that even if given the chance the Tories wouldn’t want to kill off the BBC . To me this confirms that they are not a party for my vote. I’m sure that the next government of whatever stripe will abolish the Licence Fee in favour of something based on general taxation which no one can opt out of.
      So they can make us pay for it but as yet they can’t make us watch it!

      But what they can do is shut down or control the content of every other source of news. I think GB News will either be neutered by Ofcom or closed down by lack of advertising. The on line harms bill is designed to allow the state to censor anything it doesn’t like and so control what we know . The elite have taken back control of the news , the brief flourishing of the Internet based news is coming to an end.
      As Lib LabCon merge into one hyperglobalist party supported by the hyperglobalist Civil Service and MSM the take over is close to being completed. They will then hand over power to The One Wirld Government and their dream , our nightmare , will be reality.

      By the way I read that Smart TVs do have an internal camera which could provide pictures of your living room as well as internal microphones . Remember Winston Smith hiding in the corner where his TV could not see him so he could write up his illegal diary ?

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    • JohnC says:

      Note how they completely re-run the story of why he resigned – just to make sure we all know. They only do that for top-drawer agenda items.

      I think a referendum on whether the we should continue to fund the BBC would be absolutely appropriate. We know why we won’t get it.

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  4. Deborah says:

    Thought I would try to be fairly high up the thread to say how pleased I was to see a post from Brissels. Wishing you a speedy recovery and don’t watch too much BBC during recuperation, it isn’t good for your blood pressure.

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  5. Guest Who says:

    No u won’t.

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    • Sluff says:

      #JustStopEverything

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Sluff, that used to be the catchphrase of a person in a comedy, played iirc, by Geoffrey Palmer. “Whatever you are doing, stop it now.”

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    • StewGreen says:

      The UK isright now pile driving the seabed
      to install thousands and thousands of wind machines that only spin when they feel like it

      Dead whales may be a coincidence
      but media tilting the camera to exclude the windfarm from the shot seems deliberate.

      VD got 36 Likes for her tweet
      .. and 2 people replied
      GBnews has entered the Ofcom charts with 41.6K average viewers

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  6. Sluff says:

    BBC news webshite.
    First story headline.

    I quote

    Wimbledon school crash: Pupil killed was adored and loved – family

    Is this really news? That parents of a little child are distraught about her death. Which one of us would not be?

    It’s crass. Cretinous. Exploitative. The sentimentalisation of news. Why?
    Because in the woke area in which we live, the BBC think people’s short term feelings are deemed more important than insight, strategy, sound policy, indeed anything else.

    Meanwhile, the country is a basket case. In the case of Salisbury Council, quite literally.

    The BBC. World class in cr**.

    .

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  7. StewGreen says:

    EarthxTV is literally a Climate Change CAMPAIGN channel
    On Channel 79
    #GreenSupremacist policies are CONTROVERSIAL
    but Ofcom like all Guardianland are cool with all that campaigning

    Look at some of their progs
    .. https://twitter.com/No2BS/status/1677444482743037952

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  8. Fedup2 says:

    Here is another piece from the DT about boris mate – the one who got the chairman job as a favour done …. No corruption the state eh?

    STARTS
    Richard Sharp wants a drink. Days after standing down as BBC chairman, the former Goldman Sachs banker is in the Red Lion pub, as the very last guest on Chopper’s Politics Podcast.

    He wants to order a round of Black Velvets – a pint of Guinness and champagne. All in good time, I have to tell him. First off, we have to discuss the BBC, its future and why he had to quit as chairman over his involvement in helping to facilitate an £800,000 loan for Boris Johnson when he was prime minister.

    It is clear that Mr Sharp loves the BBC. But he concedes that as a government-appointed chairman of such a major cultural institution as the BBC it meant that he always had a target on his back.

    “When there was a Labour-supporting chair, there’s a target. So the short answer is yes. It’s a sufficiently important institution that whoever is the chair is vulnerable.”

    He would advise anyone trying to succeed him to “make sure you and your family know what you’re getting into” because of an increase in what he described as “anger-tainment” news coverage which led to “ad hominem attacks” to get “clicks and connection”.

    Part of the problem is that the BBC chairman is a politically appointed role. However, Mr Sharp – who has donated to the Conservatives in the past – says that his permanent successor could be a party donor.

    “I don’t think being involved or caring about politics in this country should disqualify people,” he says, pointing to his experience working with media companies and starting a YouTube channel.

    “And I don’t think the fact that I had donated to the party, and I think the last party donation was 2010, should have disqualified me.

    “But it does mean that in the recruitment process, they need to assure themselves that the chairperson will take as a primary objective the strength of the BBC as an independent organisation and should behave in an impartial manner.”

    Sharp, 67, stood down at the end of last month after an inquiry found that while he had no involvement in helping to facilitate an £800,000 loan from a friend to Boris Johnson when he was in Downing Street, Mr Sharp had “failed to disclose potential perceived conflicts of interest” to the committee which appointed him to the BBC.

    The investigation, conducted by Adam Heppinstall KC, found that Mr Sharp had “failed to disclose potential perceived conflicts of interest” to the cross-party panel of MPs which scrutinised his appointment.

    He is remarkably sanguine about how he was treated and does not blame the BBC for the way it reported the row: “The BBC does have a reputation for 360-degree firing squads. There was a substantive issue that needed to be reported. The way the story developed, it had consequences.”

    But when I asked if the reporting was proportionate, Mr Sharp replied: “I’m partial. There are other things going on, like a war in Europe, massive potential conflict between China and the US, the cost of living crisis, so I was surprised to find myself as lead items on this issue.”

    ‘I look back and think “what a bloody idiot”’
    He wishes now that had not tried to help Sam Blyth, a businessman who got in touch to ask how he could support Mr Johnson. “I look back at it and think, ‘God, what a bloody idiot’,” he says. His big mistake was not to have “over-communicated” his involvement with Blyth when he alerted Simon Case, the Cabinet secretary, to the contact, he says.

    “It was a short conversation and he [Mr Case] was flat out in the middle of the pandemic. But I was having the conversation with the head of the Civil Service, and I took comfort from the fact that he said that I wouldn’t be involved … What I should have done was over-communicate,” says Mr Sharp.

    “After the story broke, I had a brief conversation with him [Mr Case]. I had understood that subsequent to that conversation, he then looked at his notes and wasn’t sure what he could recollect.”

    Asked if he felt let down by Case, Mr Sharp is diplomatic. “It would have been helpful if he’d had a better recollection. But you know, it is what it is, right?

    “I’ve known Sam for a long time. He is a friend. I wish I had had a better sense. I should have said: ‘Sorry, mate, I can’t help you. I know it’s the pandemic, but you’re going to have to find your way to Case on your own. And I can’t do that.’ And that was an error of mine.”

    He says he did not regret his two and a half years as chairman, adding that he had learnt a lot and was “a bit older and wiser than I was” after what he described as “a painful period for me”.

    He adds: “I think I’ve left it [the BBC] in a better condition than it was when I arrived. It’s just that the job hasn’t finished yet.”

    Licence fee shake-up
    Mr Sharp is keen to look forward. A big issue for the BBC is plans to replace the £159-a-year licence fee – which funds the work of the BBC – with a different funding model after 2027.

    The fact that the licence fee is mandatory is “why the Government gets to make an appointment. But once appointed, they have to act in the interests of the BBC,” he says. “So there is a logic behind it that it’s not self-appointed, but the representatives of the people get to choose.”

    He is worried, though, that the licence fee is regressive because those on lower incomes pay the same as wealthier households.

    “I would be in favour of a form of a mandatory payment – currently the licence fee. There is one issue, which is that it’s regressive, which may need to be addressed,” Mr Sharp says.

    This means that households on lower incomes “paid the same price” for their public service broadcasting.

    He adds: “You can look at models around the world – there’s a broadband tax, there’s household tax and there’s the licence fee. Change is disruptive from moving from one mechanism that works to another.”

    Evading the licence fee is a crime. Almost 1,000 people a week – seven out of 10 of whom are women – are prosecuted for failing to pay for their licence. Mr Sharp is concerned that the way it is enforced means women are disproportionately likely to be prosecuted for non-payment when inspectors came calling.

    He says: “The two challenges are, obviously it’s regressive and also that the collection process can fall harder on women because women often answer the door [when TV licence inspectors call]. It is imperfect. The question is: ‘Is there a better system, and what is the disruption that is going to be caused to changing it?’ And this is for a debate for Parliament. Both sides broadly support the BBC. So I think there are ideologues who have a different view, but I think they’re in the minority. And then it’s up to the BBC to actually deliver content.”

    ‘The sanction itself drives behaviour’
    Decriminalising evading the licence fee could lead to more people being dragged through the civil courts over non-payment. “The sanction itself drives behaviour. If you go to civil litigation, you actually can increase the amount of litigation that takes place. So it’s not as obvious as you think,” he says.

    “As a result of people paying the licence fee, you get a common good, which is you get an incredible value for what people are actually paying on a household basis.”

    Mr Sharp urges ministers to fund the BBC World Service directly and to take it away from being funded by the licence fee. He says: “The BBC can play an extraordinary role in the perception of the UK [in the world]. It’s one of our strongest global brands.

    “Fund it properly. We start ahead of the game. We have the best brand globally. So to defund it is an act of global harm. The BBC being successful is good for the UK.”

    Mr Sharp rejects claims by some Tories that the BBC is biased in favour of the Left. “No, I don’t think it is. I certainly am a centrist. And I think that’s where the BBC sits. It provides due impartiality.”

    Rather it is the BBC’s audience that is biased, he says: “When people process information, when they consume it from the media, they do with their existing opinions. And if it’s at variance with their point of view. Then they may see it from their own bias. So the BBC will continue to get criticisms.”

    Mr Sharp swerves a question about the criticism of the Government by presenter Gary Lineker, citing an ongoing review, although he says that the issue of social media engagement by BBC freelancers and staff “needed to be addressed”.

    Perhaps surprisingly, he is now keen to look forward and wants to find a way to return to public service either for Rishi Sunak – who was his employee at Goldman Sachs – or Sir Keir Starmer.

    “I still believe in public service and if I can help out … I have a lot of respect for him [Mr Sunak], as I also do for the Leader of the Opposition.

    “But I’d rather stay away from anything that has a political angle to it… I’d prefer to have public service that plays more to my commercial skills and stay away from the political arena.”ENDS

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  9. Eddy Booth says:

    “A BBC presenter has been accused of paying a teenager for sexually explicit photographs, beginning when they were 17, according to The Sun ”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66140356

    ‘”The mother told the paper that the anonymous individual, now aged 20, had used the money from the presenter to fund a crack cocaine habit.”

    Innocent untill proven, but it’s always the BBC.
    If they didn’t pay their *stars* so much…

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    • Scroblene says:

      “Yewtree” clearly has unfinished business…

      Did you know that a yewtree doesn’t have an actual linear grain?

      Grain of…

      …truth…

      Well, we know it wasn’t a girl in the Beebolic Cage, so that’s – er – 40% of the clowns there out of the betting already…

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Eddy, another good reason to cut the TellyTax back to a more reasonable ÂŁ25 or ÂŁ30. If the BBC cannot manage on a guaranteed income of ÂŁ650,000,000 to ÂŁ780,000,000 plus their other earnings they have no right to be in business and should be scrapped as taffman suggests further back on this Thread.

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    • Dickie says:

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  10. Scroblene says:

    On another subject, have I missed any discussion here about the item on Guido about Ofcom ‘investigating’ GB News again?

    https://order-order.com/2023/07/07/ofcom-investigating-dont-kill-cash-campaign/

    Must be a hoax, surely the impartiality of the Beebonics is a flagship for impartiality, I mean, ask Maitless, Marr and all the others who’ve hastily jumped before they were pushed out, and the damage was already done!

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  11. Guest Who says:

    Do not all rush at once.

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  12. Guest Who says:

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  13. Guest Who says:

    Ex bbc, I believe.

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC #accusedof

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  14. Guest Who says:

    Amol’s old title has a thing. Global warming pushers being dissed.

    Make complaining about the weather a hate crime.

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    • tomo says:

      The preciousness and fragility of many of the practitioners of climate angst is quite something.

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    • StewGreen says:

      8 whole likes there for the Independent’s tweet

      The reply says “TV meteorologists on climate change are the same as TV doctors on covid & vaccines.”

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  15. Guest Who says:

    Should go with a bang.

    Many new locals like men in frocks.

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  16. Up2snuff says:

    TWITTER NEWS UPDATE

    Apparently, Twitter have relaxed ever so slightly the ban on non-Twitterati being allowed to see posts. You can now view a post but not the whole Thread and any replies. Fight, fight, fight! How’s that Threads thing coming on, Mark, and how is the training going for the ‘Cage Fight’, Elon?

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    • Scroblene says:

      Now, about this Twitter thing…

      It’s apt that you’ve mentioned them, Uppers, because as a dedicated non-user of the stuff, I was going to ask a favour of anyone here who does!

      I’m reading Robert Galbraith’s new novel, ‘The Ink-Black Heart’, which is a continuing story line with Strike and Robin as the main characters!

      I’ve read all her, (J.K.Rowling’s) Strike books, and they have been just fabulous, but this one is stumping me a little, as it contains many pages of what I perceive as ‘printed Twitter’! (It’s all part of the plot, so it’s not a spoiler here).

      So, on a page there may be up to three columns of the usual gibberish chucked back and forth by kids of the Hebdo sort of genre, and I don’t know how to read these, as sometimes they start half-way down the page, and mention so-and-so joining the group and other pretentious rubbish, and they only make some sort of marginal sense to the story – or so it seems to me anyway…

      As J.K.Rowling is despised by the BBC, this seems a good place to ask what I should be reading into all these oddly printed pages, and as the whole story is over 1,200 pages long, I really should understand what I’m reading, as at this rate, I won’t finish it until around November…

      Er – is anyone able to assist please?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Scrobie, sorry no. Cannot help: I’m firmly a non-Twitterer and refused pressure to sign up to Farcebook and Instagrabyer, too. Just don’t have time. When I’m not on here or on TCW I would rather read a good book, especially one with pictures, ie. photographs. I think Denis Thorpe is a great photographer and he curated a series of photos for a book celebrating 100 years of photographs in the Guardian. Highly recommended, even if the Grauniad holds a LeftyLibby Socialist view of the world that I do not share.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Scrob – unable to – I’m very limited on twitter and don’t do anything else – sorry

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  17. tomo says:

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    • Guest Who says:

      There’s always Mastadon. Paul Mason is probably on it.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Just Stop Oil really needs to join the BBC on Threads.

      That way Zux can maintain the bubble blocking for them.

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    • kingkp says:

      “A stupid person is one who causes harm to another person or group without at the same time obtaining a benefit for himself or even damaging himself”
      Cipolla’s third rule.

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  18. Guest Who says:

    Not too much ‘analysis’, much less reporting, from the bbc on this.

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    • tomo says:

      nah…. I think the fate of Johann de Witt trumps(!) Rutte’s situation…

      Surprised this is still up …

      1672: THE YEAR, THE DUTCH ATE THEIR PRIME MINISTER

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      • Fedup2 says:

        So who gets the gig now …?

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        • Doublethinker says:

          Interesting. Rutte will remain caretaker PM until November, why does it take so long to organise a GE? Well it gives the Dutch elite and Brussels time to organise a stitch up and put in place another WEF global leader.
          Will the Dutch people be allowed to hold free and fare elections? I very much doubt it. If they do and elect a strong anti migrant, anti NZ anti globalist PM the bureaucrats in Brussels will know that major change is on its way. Hungary, Poland, Greece, Italy, Slovakia, Denmark are all against taking more migrants. Within weeks they will be followed by Spain. France is moving quickly to that position and even Germany , Ireland and Finland are getting restive.
          Only dumb arsed Britain isn’t rebelling.if you don’t protest these hyperglobalists will take silence as consent and continue to dump third world rubbish on you. The choice is yours.

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        • tomo says:

          Rename a geriatric pig Klaus and fix a rosette on him?

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    • Dickie says:

      Succumbed to the Zelensky curse.😂Wonder which western “leader” will be next. I have visions of Klaus Schwab banging his fists on his desk and yelling “replace him with the next puppet”

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    • G says:

      GW,

      Mark Rutte?

      But a Hero to the WEF…………..

      What’s happened to the WEF’s other, ‘Star’ the premier of Sri Lanka? Is he still in hiding?

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  19. Guest Who says:

    Certainly JSO units hurtling around with Verify minders in Alphas seems nothing to worry about.

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    • Scroblene says:

      You’ve got to feel anxious while driving around London anyway these daysI If you’re in one of the ghettos like Islington or Tower Hamlets, you need to keep moving, then get caught in a ulez cash-cow, then snarled up for three hours while the oily loonies are spoining the view!

      So the moral is, ‘Be anxious, drive a new car, pay Khan’!

      Mind you, the clown is only there for a short while as he’s already planning to retire ‘hurt’ soon, so the ridiculous ulez frenzy will be shelved!

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    • moggie63 says:

      I wonder if mental health problems will impact on their ability to use left hand drive cars?

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  20. taffman says:

    On its 75th the NHS has become the IHS. That’s the International Health Service under “Stop the boats” Sunak.

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  21. Jeff says:

    I’ve thought long and hard before posting this because it’s a deeply unpleasant and uncomfortable topic and has no distinct connection with the BBC. Anyway…

    The tragic events in Wimbledon the other day, just don’t make any sense. Automatically, whenever I hear of a car killing people in this fashion I think “terrorism.” But we were immediately assured by the police that this wasn’t the case. This was an horrific and tragic accident due to reckless driving.

    You see, this is the part I don’t understand. I know that area quite well. We used to walk with my old dog all over Wimbledon Common and the little pub you’ll have seen in the photos was one we occasionally visited.

    But here’s the problem. This is a very narrow little road. It’s difficult to imagine being able to muster any speed. And yet, this vehicle must have been going at quite a lick because it went through metal gates, ran over the children and adults on the front lawn and didn’t stop until it hit a wall. It was going so fast when it hit the wall that the driver is still in hospital on the critical list.

    Look, this is a tragedy. A child has died and others are still in intensive care. I’m honestly not trying to make any political points.

    It’s just that I don’t trust the narrative…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Jeff
      There was mention of the driver having a ‘medical issue ‘…. Perhaps in an automatic getting the foot stuck on the accelerator would have got up enough speed to cause the injuries …..
      There is no mention of ‘mental health ‘ yet and she hasn’t been charged yet so there is still the freedom to speculate .

      The media response – for me – has been ‘strange ‘ – and I put it down to the demographics of the reporters – it is a sad story – but death by vehicle happens every day – but of course not in school playgrounds .

      Maybe the puzzle will start to be solved when the driver is named .
      I was trying to find another piece of news but this tragedy led and led ….
      Similarly with the girl in Liverpool shot dead by a machine gun – the trial ….

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      • Jeff says:

        Oh. thanks for the info’, Fedup.

        I’m probably just becoming overly suspicious in my dotage.

        I can’t forget the BBC coverage of the terrorist attack by car in Parliament Square a few years ago. Blimey, even Sky News called it out almost immediately. The bloody BBC referred to this event as “reckless driving” for over a fortnight.

        Just made me wonder…

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      • moggie63 says:

        I once got cramp in my foot driving on the motorway, my leg straightened, and just in the few seconds before it subsided a bit I went up to well over 100mph. I was lucky enough to have a fairly clear road so I pulled over onto the hard shoulder and had a quick wander to get rid of it.

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    • tomo says:

      JLR have had some considerable software woes over the last few years.

      BMW have had some v.scary software related “control issues” as I understand it.

      320 miles out of control

      Autonomous cars (controlled by the WEF?) anybody?

      https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/nov/24/skoda-driver-decapitated-in-stuck-cruise-control-mystery

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    • Flotsam says:

      An elderly neighbour of mine lost control of his car very recently and had a major crash, all due to a genuine blackout. The scale of damage was unbelievable. He destroyed a telegraph pole, smashed down 20m of fencing at the front of a house and destroyed a shed. These things do happen.

      In view of the age of the woman driver it’s unlikely it was a blackout but perhaps drink or drugs.

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      • Jeff says:

        Cheers Flotsam, of course, all of those are entirely possible, but…

        This is a narrow road and she’s gone clean through the school gates. You see she could have clobbered a car, hit a wall, bounced up the kerb and into a building or a tree and done immense damage, but no loss of life.

        The car has sped through the only vulnerable spot that would lead to this tragedy.

        Actually, it’s probably best not to speculate…

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        • Flotsam says:

          I agree. I probably shouldn’t have speculated.

          I have seen the results of cars being driven into shop windows more than once, they were involved in parking manoeuvres. One of the issues I think is older people with poor reaction times not being used to driving automatics.

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      • atlas_shrugged says:

        Flotsam

        On TV and social media there have been a spate of sportsman all over the world blacking out and hitting the deck.

        I for one really wonder what could possibly have been causing this.

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      • tomo says:

        The first whiff of any vehicle malfunction will have the reputation management PR peeps in a lather….

        Human error is statistically more likely – 72 hours coming up so some evidence should emerge.

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      I think you become naturally suspicious when the media are reluctant to name people involved and refuse to draw clear conclusions when presented with evidence.
      We’ve seen this so often to excuse the savagery and unthinkable atrocities of those imported here.
      Also whenever any crime committed by one of their non favoured groups comes to light, this reticence and vague obfuscation goes out the window. Names, ethnicity, and likely motives are bandied about without investigation or evidential analysis.

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    • atlas_shrugged says:

      Jeff

      Like you I find the event in Wimbledon difficult to understand.

      One thing we do know is there will be a tradition of Omerta for the next 1-3 years. Once all the hoo-ha has died down then an inquest or a criminal trial will release ‘official’ details. The agencies involved in processing these crashes have no real incentive in preventing future deaths.

      I can not believe the driver was conscious in the normal sense of the word. Maybe the steering could have been fly-by-wire but not in a car I would buy.

      I personally have noticed an increase in drivers leaving the road in the last 2-3 years for unexplained reasons. If this was happening then we could be sure not to be told about it.

      I was shocked to find out that coroners were not subjected to freedom of information.

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  22. Fedup2 says:

    Some silly season dross to day about ‘the lords prayer ‘ ( our father ) being ‘problematic – according to lord C of `E loon archbishop .
    I’m sure a woke version of the Bible has been written ( by the Devil ) by now and all the nasty stuff – death – cruxifiction – resurrection – taken out so as not to cause ‘upset ‘ or ‘offence ‘….
    Devil busy these days and having a great time….

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  23. Fedup2 says:

    Which male top BBC presenter has been taken off the air recently …..? …..Sun teen sex story – shock horror probe ….

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Update – for some reason jeremy vine s name is trending on Twitter – Saturday lunchtime ……can’t think why …

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  24. AsISeeIt says:

    No longer a nation of shopkeepeers, now we’re a nation of playworkers edition

    UK weather: Heat-health alert will be followed by thunderstorms – frets our BBC

    Thunderbolts and lightning ..very very frightening – quips the jokey blokey Daily Star as it channels the late Freddie Mercury (‘Home of fun stuff‘ and ‘Proud to love animals‘) – judging from the pic accompaying this frontpage teaser to the feature it’s our pet Dachshunds who will soon be ditching their sun shades and running off to hide in the cupboard under the stairs at the first thunder clap.

    The UK government’s Health Security Agency and the Met Office issued a yellow heat-health alert on Thursday for six regions (BBC) – no doubt our State-sponsored conspiracy theorist climate alarmists will hope we’ve all now been sufficiently nudged to reflexively blame climate change. I’m not so sure. My granny warned us never to wear your tinfoil hat in a thunder storm.

    Protecting farmers from lightning… Dear readers, perhaps you may remember Haru Ghosh from Manik Bandopadhyay’s novel ‘Putulnacher Itikatha’. He was standing under a colossal banyan tree and lightning struck him. If he didn’t stand right under the tree, rather 10-12 feet away, he probably could be alive. (A welcome debut hereabouts for guest publication The Daily Star, Bangladesh)

    Shock as national newspaper encourages school boys as young as eight to begin buying, collecting and swapping images of women with their friends. Many of the young women pictured are from the world’s poorest of nations. Parents are being pressured into funding this expensive and addictive habit: Panini FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023 official stickers (Daily Star)

    Is that thunder, or is that wedding bells I hear…?

    A poster for a West End play featuring a wedding cake was banned by Transport for London (TfL) because it was seen to promote “foods high in fat, salt and sugar”. (BBC)

    Anyone for a quick game of Pooh Sticks down by the river?

    Cry me a river

    ‘I married poo-filled river – it’s so filthy it makes pals vomit but I just had to do it’… A wild swimmer threw a wedding ceremony to celebrate her love for the River Avon, despite it being so polluted with sewage it leaves her and pals smelling of human poo… and is even considering changing her name after her “pretty nuts” wedding. Meghan Trump has fallen in love with the Avon… Playworker Megan… (Daily Star)

    Mr AsI’s contention is that this peculiar new habit of wild swimming popular – and exclusively popular – among white liberal-minded middle class women, is being used as a front and excuse to have us fret about the environment and whack up our water bills.

    The key to Keir Starmer’s success – apart from those masterclass lessons at the knee of Tony Blair – appears to be Sit Keir’s policy of not pushing any particular alternative policies. His most famous oppositional dissension in recent times was his sooner, harder, longer alternative suggestion for Lockdowns.

    Actual opposition can be left to the Tories themselves…

    Cabinet split over over denying public sector a 6% pay rise (Telegraph)

    And now today there’s more Tory splits over our Mickey Mouse immigration policy

    Mr AsI hopes this story remains in the news for some time – because he likes to refer to our Mickey Mouse immigration policy

    Mickey Mouse vs Home Office.. angry Tories turn on minister for painting over asylum cartoons… Backlash among Conservative MPs after Robert Jenrick orders removal of Disney murals (‘i’) – isn’t the Disney Corporation known for being rather protective of their copyright properties?

    It’s a sad sad day in cartoonland: Matt Is away (Telegraph)

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    • Up2snuff says:

      BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – Shock, horror, the Guardian is missing from today’s BBC Blog!

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-66140306

      But strange that Harshmistress Mishal has the only copy in the W1A building and can read from it, during the first front page newspaper review on TOADY.

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      • AsISeeIt says:

        Surely our BBC wouldn’t dare censor the Gruan’s top headline: Egg or dairy found in a third of ‘vegan’ products

        Or how about: My affair with my teacher… ‘I can’t believe Miss P is naked in front of me’: the affair with a teacher that changed my life

        This is an edited extract from Seventeen, published by Simon & Schuster on 20 July. To support the Guardian and Observer, buy your copy from guardianbookshop.com. Delivery charges may apply.

        Soft porn for the staff room Guardian readership.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          AISI, to be fair to Harshmistress Mishal, she did read that bit out but I do get suspicious when a newspaper is missing from the BBC Blog with the exception of the Sun (because I think it is an awful rag) which is often missing because, the BBC no doubt think it is a Far Right Rag and also demeans Wimmin.

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  25. Dickie says:

    Western values eh. Tobias Ellwood must be rubbing his hands with glee.

    https://sonar21.com/ukraine-is-doing-great-which-is-why-biden-is-sending-them-cluster-munitions/

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  26. G.W.F. says:

    A BBC presenter has been accused of paying a teenager tens of thousands of pounds for explicit photos. Can we assume that this amount of money was not derived from BBC salary – from licence fees paid under threat of prison?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66140356

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      Stephen Nolan seems to be a candidate, I don’t listen to the radio, but I’ve have heard his name before, apparently did something to annoy Sinn Fein last year.
      So (puts tin foil hat on) a reason for BBC to manufacture something or stop protecting him?
      Of course all the above is pure speculation, he could have honestly spent the entirety of his ÂŁ400k yearly hand out on grub.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Rylan has issued an official denial “I’m filming in Italy”
        Packham was on the radio this morning

        And that’s the thing about the Schofield cover up
        Medialand is systemically inclined to be pervy and to cover it up

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      • Flotsam says:

        Stephen Nolan is the Wokeists Wokester.

        One of the reasons I stopped listening to BBC Radio 5 Live

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  27. StewGreen says:

    9am news the news guy read out a strange forecast saying it would be dry all day
    15 mins laterthe weather woman came on and did the expected forecast about storms in the afternoon

    Yet it’s raining here now as if we are on the edge of a storm
    stopped now

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  28. Guest Who says:

    Care 4 Calais, Yvette, Corbyn, Gary & Lily ramping up the tears with a bbc crew?

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  29. JohnC says:

    Cluster bombs: Biden defends decision to send Ukraine controversial weapons
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-66140460

    They say you learn something new every day. And today I learned two things !.

    1. Cluster bombs are good – despite what we have been told in the past. They will actually SAVE civilian lives.

    “Making sure that the Ukrainians can retake their territory is one of the most important things we can do to help reduce civilian casualties,”

    I can’t help thinking ‘What if they don’t retake their territories’ – even though the USA tells us it is to ‘make sure’.

    And from the comedian president himself (or was it the North Korean press office):
    ‘it would “bring Ukraine closer to victory over the enemy, and democracy to victory over dictatorship”.’

    2. Apparently any law in the USA is absolutely meaningless if they can just ignore it if it suits them:

    ‘Mr Biden’s move will bypass US law prohibiting the production, use or transfer of cluster munitions with a failure rate of more than 1%.’

    So much for the moral high-ground. Luckily the BBC will not protest too loudly. I can only imagine what they would be saying if it was Trump. There would be pictures of maimed children all over the front page.

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  30. StewGreen says:

    Guido points out Chris Bryant replies to most of their tweets
    but not the one where they asked
    “Did you attend a lockdown drinks party in Rosie Winterton’s parliamentary office Chris Bryant @RhonddaBryant ?”

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  31. StewGreen says:

    “R4 having a debate about disruptive eco demonsrators between Chris Packham and John Gummer.
    The former says they are fine and justified, the latter says they are fine and justified.
    Well done for covering all viewpoints.”

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  32. Kaiser says:

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  33. micknotmike says:

    I’ve just finished reading a bbc article from an ex-chairman where he raises the idea that “the wealthier may have to pay more for their licence”. Fair enough chief, I’m not a licence holder. Once again though, the whole discussion assumes that whatever system is in place, it MUST be compulsory and all households will have to cough up. It also implies that this is only fair and the sort of person who objects is probably in need of some re-programming.
    This is the part which really annoys me. I don’t want your woke bullshit no matter how much you increase or lower the fee. I ain’t paying it.
    On a cheery note, I see that the latest Indiana Jones movie has died on its ar5e. I’m delighted as that dreadful fleabag character is the co-star and is being largely being blamed. Not so easy in the big world, is it love?

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  34. Fedup2 says:

    I must stop listening to bbc radio news . A piece about 800 000 people who didnt apply for other peoples money ( ÂŁ400) for energy fees.
    Lets spoon feed adults with money ?

    Then some ex army general lamenting that Ukraine wont be joining NATO any time soon as speeding up the end of the world

    He managed to slur president who implied to sell out ukraine to putin. Thats when i started swearing at him / bbc

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  35. Terminal Moraine says:

    I just had a look at what a ‘yellow warning’ entails — the Met says it’s “when it is likely that the weather will cause some low level impacts”… and also when severe impacts are possible but the “certainty of those impacts occurring is much lower”.

    Warning of low level impacts? Behavioural ‘science’ being the new religion, institutions using doublespeak like this barely raises an eyebrow. No surprise that the system is being run by the UKHSA… have another few billion to waste, ‘it’s for our safety’.

    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/guides/warnings

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    • Up2snuff says:

      TM, yellow warning of snow: “Do not eat under any circumstances.”

      ‘They’ are treating us like children.

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    • tomo says:

      If they carry on like this it seems likely that “flying brick meets window” will become a more frequent impact for UKMO

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  36. Dickie says:

    The New Atlas – Brian Berletic speaks with Mark Sleboda

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    • JohnC says:

      That’s what all the informed, independent analysists are saying about the offensive.

      BBC: ‘Gen Mark Milley said he was unsurprised that progress had been slower than predicted – but added that Ukraine was “advancing steadily”.’

      ‘Why you can trust the BBC’:

      ‘Our editorial values say: “We are independent, impartial and honest. We are committed to achieving the highest standards of accuracy and impartiality and strive to avoid knowingly or materially misleading our audiences.’

      Which is of course absolutely meaningless because if they weren’t honest (which they are not) they would write exactly the same thing. As they did.

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  37. Terminal Moraine says:

    Sparse reporting on the Dutch gov from the BBC but here’s more in-depth coverage: https://www.dutchnews.nl/2023/07/conflicting-stances-on-refugees-left-rutte-with-no-way-out/

    It’s more than just “a cap on the number of relatives of war refugees” as the BBC say; it also involved total numbers coming in and the ability to override local councils’ decisions and place migrants around the country.

    All pressing, real-world issues that face other European countries but the BBC think you’re a simpleton so adjust their reporting accordingly.

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  38. pugnazious says:

    Brave new world….

    ‘Two young women who knocked teenage boy unconscious, sexually molested and stripped him naked are hunted by police’

    Hmmmm….”Both women are described as being around 18 to 20 years old. One had bright red, believed to be coloured, hair, was around 6ft 3ins tall and wearing glasses. She was wearing blue shorts and a black crop top, with pink Air Jordan trainers.

    ‘The second had very long white blonde hair and was around 5ft 9ins tall, with a Merseyside accen’

    Women or trans-women? I’m sure we’ll find out but it’d be nice if the media et al would stop pretending and admit trans-women aren’t ‘women’….and maybe stand up for school children who are being indoctrinated, groomed and basically sexually abused in schools on behalf of the trans lobby.

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  39. pugnazious says:

    A family accuses a BBC presenter of sending money to their son in return for explicit photos…..lol….gotta say I hope it’s true and it’s a certain person…..him being extraordinarily smug, complacent and arrogant….he has spent far too long ensconced on his show and it shows….someone who thinks he can get away with saying anything and indeed it seems he pretty much can.

    However the story does seem unlikely….how could anyone be so stupid as to transfer money direct to the boy’s account and to continue to do so after a complaint has been made? Maybe there’s less to this story than meets the eye.

    Have to say there’s a few presenters you’d take a guilty pleasure in seeing their downfall and removal….but the BBC would just replace them with a carbon copy that they so successfully manufacture day in day out.

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    • JohnC says:

      Ah – I assumed it was a young girl – but re-reading the BBC article, they are VERY careful not to give away the gender. Which almost certainly means they are hiding something which means it’s a male.

      Vile certainly fits the stereotype : an odd, shallow, self-centred greedy and nasty far-Left bully – but I can’t believe he is that stupid.

      One can only hope.

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  40. Deborah says:

    I know a lttle of today’s weather has been mentioned above but the Met Office forecasting is appallingly inaccurate. I watch it on GB news and I think the BBC’s weather isn’t provided by the MET Office.

    Alex Deakin went to school in East Yorkshire and I would have thought his knowledge of the area should have given him some interest getting the forecast correct there. On Thursday he forecast that the temperature in the East Riding on Friday would be 30 degrees Celsius (86 Fahrenheit). It reached 78 Celsius. On Friday it was forecast that Saturday would be hot and sunny up until around 6pm. It started raining around 11am and continued for a good two hours, not the short sharp rain the Met Office predicted and the rain map suggested we would probably miss. We were due to have a tree surgeon come to take down some already dead trees today. I would not have wanted him climbing trees in wet weather. The Met Office doesn’t seem to care about the cost of their wrong predictions to people trying to earn a living. They prefer to scare people about distant climate change and if only the government would give them a heap more money they could increase the amount of modelling in their long range predictions, and get them even more wrong.

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  41. pugnazious says:

    I wonder how many times the BBC will wheel in Matthew Goodwin to give him a chance to expound on his views….all antipathetic to the BBC’s world view of course.

    I can already imagine the BBC working out a strategy to demonise and discredit him and his claims….Marianna Springer will declare him a conspiracy theorist and Far-Right demagogue whilst any appearance on the BBC will be purely to mock, decry and denounce him.

    It’s not like they’ve never done such things before and don’t have the blueprints for the plan ever-ready to hand.

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  42. Guest Who says:

    With due apologies to those not on the incarnation at the centre of the storm, the latest media approved one looks… interesting.

    Certainly they have the selective censorship sorted like an HYS taking a traffic warden exam.

    No wonder Beeboids are gagging for it.

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  43. Guest Who says:

    In other news… jernalism.

    30 engagements in a day.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2023/07/06/watch-the-death-of-journalism/?

    It died years ago. Just TNI partners don’t know it yet.

    Mother Jones Daily Newsletter
     
    Let’s not remove race from the Tulsa race massacre

    Attempts to whitewash history tend to struggle with the gaps left. Here’s a recent example: On Thursday, Ryan Walters, Oklahoma’s state superintendent, was asked how teachers would include the Tulsa race massacre in their curriculum under stringent new bans on discussing critical race theory. Here is Walters’ response, a gold medal–worthy feat of mental gymnastics:

    I would never tell a kid that because of your race, because of the color of your skin, or your gender or anything like that, you are less of a person or are inherently racist. That doesn’t mean you don’t judge the actions of individuals. Oh, you can. Absolutely, historically, you should. “This was right. This was wrong. They did this for this reason.” But to say it was inherent in that because of their skin is where I say that is critical race theory. You’re saying that race defines a person.

    It should go without saying, but yes race played a major role in the Tulsa race massacre. The 1921 attack on the affluent and predominantly African American neighborhood, also known as Black Wall Street, is often regarded as one of the worst racially motivated acts of violence in US history.

    In a video posted on Twitter, you can hear how the person who initially asked Walters the Tulsa question refused to back down after the superintendent pushed out that flimsy non-answer. According to the New Republic, Walters was mocked for the majority of the meeting.

    As the right’s crusade against CRT in schools persists, it’s a solace to know that not everyone is buying the crap conservatives are selling.

    —Arianna Coghill

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    Emma Kennedy and Paul Mason? Thriving?

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    • JohnC says:

      From an area of 10,000 black people, 26 were killed along with 13 white people.

      Is that really a ‘white supremacist terrorist massacre’ ?. Doesn’t even come close to what Islam has done.

      From the Oxford dictionary:

      ‘the killing of a large number of people especially in a cruel way the bloody massacre of innocent civilians Nobody survived the massacre.’

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Speicher_massacre

      Now THAT’s a massacre and I hadn’t even heard of it. Only surpassed in peace-time by the Twin Towers which was the same people again.

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  44. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile, BBC go-to rag The Economist…

    Inside the Lions’ Den: the West Bank’s Gen Z fighters
    A new armed movement isn’t very organised, but has a powerful brand

    Like Deborah Meaden Meets Rosa Kleb?

    Pretty sure the images they used are of now reorganised chaps… walls… ceilings…

    But, THE BRANDING!

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  45. JohnC says:

    Hold the press:

    ‘Steps star Ian ‘H’ Watkins realises long-held art ambitions’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66099218

    How on Earth did this make the BBC front page ?.

    Here he is with one of his masterpieces:

    _130298052_15d6b539-a00c-4f3d-8b19-6c7bda7971d8.jpg.webp

    Unfortunately it rained just before the picture was taken and all the paint ran – but you get the idea.

    Nothing like a bit of free promotion at the license-fee payers expense. No doubt Nichola Bryan of the BBC will get a ‘painting-by-H’ to brag about to her friends when they visit and some free VIP tickets to something or other from it.

    owdtdi-8_400x400.jpg

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    • Guest Who says:

      About to get out the power washer for the car too.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      JohnC, er, should you not have put masterpiece in inverted commas and prefixed it with so-called in true BBC-stylee?

      I wonder why ‘H’ should be favoured by the BBC in this way?

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  46. Guest Who says:

    https://pressgazette.co.uk/news-leaders/nick-robinson-interview/

    Nick Robinson interview: Whatever happened to broadcast news impartiality?

    You and your colleagues killed it stone dead years ago, Nick.

    “Robinson suggested that broadcast regulator Ofcom (statement below) should instigate a form of public debate on this topic. “It’s not for broadcasters like me to set the rules,” he added, “but if my old mates from W1A do, that would be for the best”.

    I may have edited something I read in The Critic Magazine there.

    I wonder how many people actually read this article, anywhere?

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    • Guest Who says:

      Bet she walks pasty the same quote Toenails does.

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      • Guest Who says:

        I got this message:

        “The following media includes potentially sensitive content. Change settings”

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        • Guest Who says:

          Presse Gazette gets a BBC Toenails interview because…?

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        • StewGreen says:

          Despite the huge warning over that Twitter image, all it is a pic of the word “Trust” broken up

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    • Guest Who says:

      “I wonder how many people actually read this article, anywhere?”

      Not many. Found it by scrolling back.

      They repeat the ‘BBC is Wonderful’ BBC poll day in day out.

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      • JohnC says:

        lmao – I refuse to join twitter to see the full story.

        But I bet my house that the ‘end of broadcast news impartiality’ is not about the BBC.

        The only thing I wonder is that do these people believe the BBC is impartial because they are totally engulfed in a group-think bubble or are they just shameless hypocrites ?.

        Given how absolutely clueless the Left are generally in the real world (which is why so many of them stay in education), I suspect it is the former.

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