428 Responses to Midweek 2 August 2023

  1. Kaiser says:

    death to the so called BBC


  2. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Pay attention class 🙂

    The three great monotheistic religions:

    • Christianity
    Love your neighbour

    • Judaism
    Charge your neighbour excessive interest

    • Islam
    Cut off your neighbour’s head and steal his stuff


    • Deborah says:

      Lucy, I am not sure who you are quoting, but many of the largest donors to charity are Jewish. Would you like to give examples of Jewish people charging excessive interest.


      • Lucy Pevensey says:

        Have you a sense of humour?

        I am one of the most pro-Jewish & pro-Israel, gentiles you will ever meet. I ‘ve heard more usury & other money-related jokes by Jews about themselves than others.

        I’ve also heard more Irish jokes from the Irish than anyone else .
        My dad, grandad & uncles (I’m half Irish) could rattle-off dozens of them.

        But I shouldn’t have to have to explain that.


        • Dickie says:


          • Fedup2 says:

            One for nish – or Frankie – oyve


            • Up2snuff says:

              It is a difficult issue. Jews can be found in many parts of the world because, as you can read in the Bible, international travel did not start with the Industrial Revolution and Slavery. At the incarnation of God, in the form of the most important Jew ever to walk this earth of ours, some wise men sought to travel to worship Him and bring gifts. Most scholars think they travelled from relatively nearby, the Levant or maybe a bit further than that. Others have suggested they may have even come from the Far East.

              Because international travel is not a modern phenomenon, inter-marriage of people from different faiths and none is/are possible. In fact in Israel of Jesus’s day, the Jews who had married outside of the faith, lived in an enclave and were known as Samaritans. (They were looked down upon by the ‘proper Jews’ who worshipped at the Temple in Jerusalem, especially the Pharisees.) The Samaritans, the ‘outsiders’ were some of the earliest believers in and followers of Jeshua HaMaschich which you can read all about in John’s Gospel chapter 4 verses 1 to 30. [https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-Chapter-4/]

              (My Armenian friends have mused aloud when in my company that they may be Samaritan in origin.)

              As evidence that God has a sense of humour angels were sent with a message to the eleven disciples who were standing around gazing up at the clouds at the time of the Ascension “Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”

              In other words, you have your instructions, go and get on with it!

              ‘It’ being to take the good news about Jeshua HaMaschich to Jerusalem, all Judea, Samaria and to the uttermost ends of the earth. You can read all about that in Acts chapter 1. [https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Acts-Chapter-1/] There may be some Jewish heritage in many families around the world including mine. In the abundant grace of God, salvation has come through Jesus Christ, especially to very many people around the world in the twentieth century, including me :-), and also the twenty-first century.

              Yes, Jewish jokes abound; not least, told by my Jewish friends. As a people group, they have been given a lot to mourn and cry about over the centuries, not least in Germany, Poland, Russia, Ukraine and even in Britain.


          • andyjsnape says:

            Hello Dickie
            Thanks for sharing
            When the bbc did do comedy


      • Nibor says:

        OK let`s be straight here unlike the BBC and woke websites .

        Do Jews have more influence than others ?

        Me : Yes
        ( ooh is that make me an anti semite ?)

        What % of more influence do they have ?

        Me : about 1 or 2 %
        ( is that enough to be worried about ?)

        Do you want to live in areas of the world where Jews have more influence ?

        Me : yes
        ( compared in the world where they supposedly do have influence to where they do have not have influence )

        Why would Jews have a little bit more influence for good in British affairs than say Gypsies , Irish travellers or Khat imbibing Somalis ?

        Answer ; culture .


      • Thoughtful says:

        Capital one? Blackrock? Blackstone? Wonga? The Rothschilds? Sam Bankrupt Fraud?

        Funny but I was watching Todd “bubba” Horowitz himself Jewish talking about Usuary this morning.

        It’s not to say that ALL Jews do this, but there are a disproportionate number of cases which involve Jewish people.

        Anti Semitism would be the hatred of the Jewish people and all Jews, but observing something which appears to have a basis in truth and reality – that’s simply telling the truth.

        Giving to charity especially in America is a means of tax avoidance, lets not forget that many unpleasant people such as Jimmy Saville to name but one have hidden themselves behind charities as a shield against criticism.


    • StewGreen says:

      Lucy, humour ?
      Jokes are funny that was just bigotry
      The kind of thing a Hope Not Hate person would post on this website, purely so they could then sneer “see that website publishes bigotry”.

      Organised religion does have dogma that leads to problems.
      eg the way priests raped children and it got covered up.
      To characterise Islam as “Cut off your neighbour’s head and steal his stuff”
      is ridiculous and hatey, same as the what it says about Judaism
      Logical criticism can be applied to religions, but that isn’t.


      • Lucy Pevensey says:

        Listen Stew,

        Since it’s so offensive, perhaps Fedup can delete my post?
        I can’t do so myself.

        But you sir, can knock off the utter nonsense.
        Beheadings, rapes, slavery and looting have been the basis of Islam from it’s beginnings and continue until this day.

        It is not bigotry to say so and in never will be.


        • StewGreen says:

          Lucy, I didn’t tell you not to post anything
          Yet you come back and bully me telling me I cannot post my opinion.
          I simply gave my opinion that your post was bigotry, that’s not saying it’s offensive.
          Rather that when people post bigotry it reflects badly on them.

          Posting “Love your neighbour” and “Do as you would be done by”, the principles of Christianity and then posting “Islam : Cut off your neighbour’s head and steal his stuff”
          is clearly a contradiction
          Pretty much zero percent of Muslim and Christians in the UK are cutting of their neighbours heads and stealing stuff.

          It’s no comfort to the thousands of people raped by Christian preachers that at least that preacher was a Christian not a Muslim.


        • Fedup2 says:

          What’s this ? Someone wants their post deleted ? Blimey I’ve not had to do that for a very long time . …if asked I will do it for the usual fee… I understand religion is the subject …

          … talking of which …. David Baddiel questions a non jew being caste as Oppenheimer …. And apparently ‘questions were asked ‘ about Helen mirren being cast as Golda Meere( spelling ) .
          If acting is about impersonating real people – surely as long as the script is reasonable – and they have some ‘likeness’ to the real person – and there are no family objections – surely it’s ok ?

          Men playing women coloureds playing white surely takes to absurdity … ?

          As for disagreements – perceived slurs – about religion – it’s one of the origin reasons that when I started the moderator gig I was quite strict – puritanical – about sticking to the BBC subject

          But I don’t do that now – so there is a cost / consequence …


        • Up2snuff says:

          Lucy, thing is, we possibly, probably, almost certainly have critics – even enemies – who view this web-site as beyond the pale. Marianna may well be keeping an eye on us right now. We have to be careful about what we post and I speak first to myself firmly there. We do not need to give our critics and the BBC any more ammunition.

          That said, this site is very different to the one I looked at years before registering to post on here. I used to wince, cough and splutter at the content of some of the posts during my visits. There has been a change, a continual improvement not least since David Vance personally posted and others such as Fed took a role in moderation. I pay tribute to all posters that post regularly here; this is a far different site now, far more civilised, to the one I first encountered.


      • Nibor says:

        A lot of Jews are successful .
        They`re success is disproportionate to other [ sectors , communities , races , religions , minorities , average Joe ] people .
        Disproportionate ? !
        As though something is wrong ?
        Getting by ( I`m comfortable ) is wrong ?
        Some of them are very successful due to the culture they`ve imbibed . Culture , not race , makes some people successful and others not .


    • Foscari says:

      Lucy-The trouble is that you may just be “joking” To
      me a Jewish atheist it appears not to be in the realms of
      “Die Stuermer” Just some facetiousness . BUT already
      20 folk have given you a thumbs up. I hope it was because
      they thought your warped humour was funny.


  3. Fedup2 says:

    Deborah – you might get an answer – at a cost 😎… i was musing today about the development that Saudi is throwing huge amounts at the ‘prem ‘ the real one not the 4th rate girl crap stuff…

    .. anyway – I wonder how things will go if spurs is bought by the Arabs – the chant of ‘Yiddo ‘ which was a traditional spurs thing might disappear if some emir turns up in the directors ‘ box …
    I always thought that spurs had a strong local Stamford Hill following whilst the boring arsenal were irorish… but that’s just racism or something on my part …


    • Fedup2 says:

      BTW – I was witness to a friendly between Celtic and spurs where the celtics threw a petrol bomb – that’s right – a petrol bomb – into the densest home supporters section… this was before sky … I was at the other end ….I presumed at the time it was an IRA type ‘tradition ‘…


    • Thoughtful says:

      I believe that when some Saudi bought Newcastle the fans in appreciation and support wore Arab head dress to the games only to be insulted and attacked with the meaningless bully word ‘Racism’.

      Lets be clear, there is no such thing as ‘racism’ other than as a word which defines something the Left don’t like. It can be applied to anything and against anyone, as can the US term bring brought here ‘White supremecist’.

      As Joe Biden said if you’re black and not voting Democrat you ain’t Black.
      In other words if you don’t support the left they are not going to protect you and as Larry Elder found when he stood as a Republican candidate in California, despite being Black he was described as a “White Supremecist”

      A White woman dressed in a monkey suit throwing eggs at Larry Elder whilst shouting racial abuse was deemed by the Left not to be ‘racist’ because Larry Elder was standing as a Republican.

      So here’s the challenge, the gauntlet thrown down, if anyone thinks I’m wrong and that there is such a thing as ‘racism’, write the definition. Just a simple one that can be easily understood, not an essay like the Left, and something everyone agrees with. I guarantee you won’t be able to do it and that is the proof that there is no such thing as ‘racism’.


  4. tomo says:


    They’re going to try assassination


    • Guest Who says:

      What amuses, if through gritted teeth, is the number of outlets actually going with the line that this is an ‘astounding fourth attempt’.

      Even Robert the Bruce might feel this to reflect more on them.


      • Guest Who says:

        One is sure Saz and Lurch can clarify.


        • Guest Who says:

          Here’s the BBC Moaning Emole:


          Trump accused of plotting to overturn election

          Donald Trump is due in court tomorrow after being charged with plotting to overturn his 2020 election defeat. The former US President faces four counts including conspiracy to defraud the US, tampering with a witness and conspiracy against the rights of citizens. The election investigation looked at the two months between Mr Trump’s loss to President Joe Biden and the US Capitol riot of 6 January 2021. On Mr Trump’s allegations of voter fraud, prosecutors say: “These claims were false and the defendant knew that they were false.” The 77-year-old frontrunner to be the Republican party’s presidential candidate for next year’s election denies any wrongdoing, saying the charges are part of “un-American witch hunts” against him. He also faces charges in two other criminal cases.

          Four takeaways from the indictment

          The man who could bring down Trump

          How big are Trump’s legal problems?


          When they still have to start with ‘accused of’ they are lost.


  5. Scroblene says:

    Fed – er, thank you for the tip-off, but I was watching ‘The Paradise Club’, with the fabulous Don Henderson and Leslie Grantham and nodded off near the end, (although it’s a great series – vino at hand), so had to rewind it and watch it again!

    So here I am, presumably twelfth, and full of remorse…

    And thanks LeftyRight and your goodself for reminding me in the last postings, that we’re in the middle of a new wave of Global Grilling – it’s absolutely dire and soaking outside and if my tomatoes get blight, I’ll sue the Met. Office, as they had one warning of cr*p weather in one online rag, and a beautiful scenario planned for the week in another!

    Met Off = ‘flip-flop’…


    • harry142857 says:

      Don was in a lot of great shows back in the day.
      Try watching XYY Man, Strangers and Bulman, you will be in for a treat.


      • Scroblene says:

        ‘Strangers’ was a marvellous programme, Harry!

        Because we liked his style so much then, and with ‘Bulman’, we were certainly going to watch him with Leslie Grantham, who also made a great programme better!

        I never saw the XYYMan, so will now do a search…


      • Docmarooned says:

        Ditto for Bulman – was a great show. Also a great cameo in Ripping Yarns – accross the andes by frog.


  6. Guest Who says:

    Uh oh.

    “BBC dips its toes in the “fediverse” waters: The BBC has set up its own Mastodon server instance — https://social.bbc. The British broadcaster is labeling the move as an experiment, for now, but it’s a sign of the decentralized movement’s staying power.”


  7. andyjsnape says:

    UK foreign aid cuts: Thousands will die as a result, says report

    “Thousands of women in Africa will die in pregnancy and childbirth as a result of cuts to the UK’s overseas aid budget, ministers have been warned.”

    1) Try not having SOOOO many babies
    2) Look after yourselves, why is it the UK taxer payer sorts this out


    • Scroblene says:

      I thought those issues were dealt with by cherideees, not the struggling UK taxpayer…


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      The BBC article, drawing on comrades/allies in the civil service, also claims: ‘In Yemen, it said that half a million women and children in Yemen will not receive healthcare and “fewer preventable deaths will be avoided”. Sorry, we need to more concerned with the millions in this country who are not receiving proper healthcare due to NHS bureaucracy, management incompetence, bolshy medics, and the ongoing consequences of the Covid plandemic.

      If any lefty liberal Guardian type wants to send their own money to Yemen, Afghanistan or Sudan, or goes there as a volunteer to help, then that is their choice. But whilst there are people in this country who are homeless, hungry, or waiting to see a doctor, then not one penny should be spent on so-called foreign aid.


    • Thoughtful says:

      It’s a ridiculous premise to suggest people will die, and it’s a Socialist method called ‘shroud waving’.

      The reality is that this month there is the BRICS conference in Saouth Africa, and of the 54 African nations 50 are now aligned with the East, thanks in no small part beccause of the catastrope of Democrat corruption under Obama and Biden, both of whom have tried to force the horrible ‘diversity’ on African nations whils Russia and China have been doing productive helpful things.

      So let us allow the move the White mans burden onto the shoulders of the Yellow man where it has moved anyway and let them pay the cost of what they have acquired !


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      All these places were well run and administered by Britain. But it seems we were awful colonialists, and departed most of them about 60 years ago. That’s a long time to be independent, but still to expect the former colonial power to pay up. Try standing on your own two feet for a change.


  8. andyjsnape says:

    UK to keep EU safety mark in post-Brexit climbdown

    Fair enough we are keeping some safety marks, no more no less. But the uk hating bbc quotes as a “Climbdown”


  9. Guest Who says:

    Further to the slapper spat at BBC Radio WAG, here is a comment from a post on the issue…

    “Gone are the days when the BBC had proper DJs who cared about the songs – now it’s all grade 3 ex TV stars with heavy accents who care more about how they look than they sound”

    They seem to like looking like Labour front benchers.


  10. Fedup2 says:

    The bee lady interviewing ‘Sharon Thompson ‘ the number 2 at Birmingham Citeh Council . Sharon is ‘laser focused ‘ on fixing the council – which seems unable to pay wimmin equally to men …
    ….and keeps getting fined … eventually bee lady mentioned brum council is – of course – labour run – and probably always was.
    But don’t worry – Sharon is ‘laser focused ‘. I wonder what ‘laser focused ‘means ? There’s a lot of it about . I feel quite laser focused . Sharon does too …


    • harry142857 says:

      For equality, Birmingham needs more wimmin and ethnics on the bin lorries, sweeping the streets and cutting the grass at 6.00 am.

      Levelling up.


      • Scroblene says:

        Can they rename ‘The Bullring’, as ‘The Cowring’?

        Perhaps ‘The Bullockring’ would work better, as it fits the alphabet menu to a tee…


  11. Fedup2 says:

    Today again

    BBC in a happy place with the latest democrats persecution of the President Trump …. It leads the news of course – kangaroo court on standby ….trump approval rating up another 5%?

    Election fix in – well done El President Biden ..


    • Guest Who says:

      Next up — Reuters Daily Briefing

      First, it was the Stormy Daniels hush money case. Then, the retention of sensitive government records. Now, Trump faces charges for efforts to overturn the 2020 election. We look at what happens next.


      Rather clearly, the MSM will need to cook up another one.

      But phrased like it is above, it is starting to look a bit dubious.


  12. JohnC says:

    Donald Trump indictment: Ex-president charged with bid to overturn 2020 election

    It should be clear to everybody with an IQ > 90 that all of these sudden and convenient charges are a political assasination attempt to stop Trump running for president. Biden even said they would do it here:

    I had an amusing few minutes looking a ‘fact checkers’ trying to say the claims he said it are false. Look how desperate this one is:


    It nit-picks and obfuscates the claim without addressing the core of what Biden said. The best it could manage to say it’s false is:

    ‘We cannot rule out the possibility that the president may have had knowledge of a looming indictment but there are reasons to doubt this.’

    Not any more. They were just waiting for the right time.

    But the only useful thing about this story is that it shines a spotlight on the MSM. This is exactly their job is is and exactly why they are self-regulated : to stand as a check and balance against politicians doing something like this.

    And the BBC have failed utterly. They even show pictures and a video in this article which are a 100% propaganda pieces and have nothing whatsoever to do with the charge.

    They do quote Trump’s campaign briefly near the end of this lengthy article (for their facade of ‘impartiality’) where they have said:

    “The lawlessness of these persecutions of President Trump and his supporters is reminiscent of Nazi Germany in the 1930s, the former Soviet Union, and other authoritarian, dictatorial regimes,”

    Absolutely right.

    The BBC are 100% complicit. They don’t report anything bad about Biden or anything positive about Trump. Hang your heads in shame OFCOM. You are a disgrace.

    How will they be stopped ?. I suspect things are going to get very ugly when the campaign starts, especially if Trump might win despite the full weight of the MSM behind him. I don’t even rule out him being assasinated : things are now that bad.


    • MarkyMark says:


      President Trump’s 100 Days President Biden’s 0 Day 

      Dear Winston Smith in the Records Department of the Ministry of Truth,

      You covered President Trump’s 100 Days and then produced a Beyond 100 Days to hold power to account.

      Why have you not done the same for President Biden to hold power to account?

      ‘Omission is the greatest form of lie.’ 


      Thank you again for contacting us,

      BBC Complaints Team


  13. andyjsnape says:

    The msm..

    Knifeman stabs woman in Sweden’s consulate in Turkey amid flaring tensions over Koran burning stunts that enraged the Muslim world


    “the attack was carried out by a ‘mentally disabled’ person”

    So many “mentally disabled people” in a certain religion


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      They have to bang their heads on the floor five times a day, that must take its toll.


  14. Fedup2 says:

    Sarah Champion – labour comrade MP – in charge of the committee on giving our money away to bongo bongo land – apparently you and I pay for abortions in Africa – but a quarter of the 10 billion budget is being wasted on vermin washing up on the south coast .

    We know this because the comrade minister – Andy – plebgate – Mitchell has published the details . And don’t worry – another couple of billion is being thrown away next year – up to 12 billion wasted money …..bee lady couldn’t be bothered …


    • MarkyMark says:

      The Zambian Space Programme
      It was not just the US and the Soviet Union racing to the Moon in the 1960s. A 1964 article in Time magazine about the independence of Zambia included a footnote referring to one man who was not so happy about the celebrations – because it was getting in the way of his space program.



  15. Fedup2 says:

    Let’s hear it for ender Solomon – the head of the ‘refugee council ‘ whose aim in life is to get more 3rd worlders from safe France to the Uk .
    In a long interview mr Solomon wasn’t asked about corrupt 3rd world ‘lawyers ‘ facilitating false claims to refugee status .I would have thought this a very serious issue – but not one for the BBC – funny that …


    • Sluff says:

      Indeed. The BBC are in full ‘evil Tory’ open door immigration mode today.
      But weirdly I agree with the Regugee Council on one thing.

      The Home Office backlog for asylum decisions is pathetic.

      But we should not be surprised. For twenty years the Home Office have had an open door immigration policy, dating back at least to Steve Moxon whistleblowing about visas given like confetti to Romanians.

      It was a Labour Home Secretary who first described the Home Office as ‘not fit for purpose’. Absolutely nothing has changed.
      The taxpayer, needless to say, foots the bill.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Odd that any genuine asylum seekers would travel thousands of miles only to throw their phones and documents into the English Channel within sight of Britain.

        Am I being too cynical?


  16. andyjsnape says:

    Anyone noticed that the bbc refers to Obama as the former President

    Trump as the ex-President


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      I believe that ‘ex-‘ in this context is simply an abbreviation for ‘excellent’.

      Oh, and by the way, BBC. Don’t go and mention Obama’s black eye, bandage, and the death of another of his cooks last week.


      • andyjsnape says:

        Hello Ian

        Brilliant comment – re “Ex”

        The excellent would get my vote, if allowed


  17. Fedup2 says:

    Yes you always know then there is an anti Trump story – comrade Sarah smith – daughter of dead labour leader – sounds positively chirpy .

    If there is a fair US election ( impossible now) I think the Samaritans would need a call queuing system of bbc reporters – and Katty and Christian would reappear to do their daily poison show – not so much now though with the bidens eh?

    How’s that corrupt druggy presidents son getting on ? Still being ignored ?


  18. JohnC says:

    ‘It’s like playing with death’ – Ukraine’s female front line soldiers

    ‘The BBC spoke to three of the 5,000 female front-line soldiers who are fighting both the enemy and sexist attitudes within their own ranks.’

    Unbelievable misandry from start to finish. Even by the BBC’s standards.

    ‘In the eastern Donbas region, sniper Iryna is involved in the counter-offensive right now. We secure a brief connection with her during a moment of peace on the battlefield.’

    ‘If a man hesitates whether to make a shot or not, a woman will never.’
    ‘Maybe that’s why women are the ones giving birth, not men,’ she adds – cradling her three-month old daughter as we speak.

    I put forward the real reasons the women are being tasked as snipers is so thaty they don’t have to crawl in the mud in trenches while being shelled and shot at.

    Women in the Ukrainian army do not have gender-appropriate uniforms.

    ‘… the BBC has obtained data suggesting 93 Ukrainian servicewomen have been killed in action since the Russian invasion.’

    I simply stunned that the BBC have the bare-faced audacity to write such an article when it is the MEN who are actually in the trenches and tanks who are being literally blown to pieces in their HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.

    Here’s the author:


    If want to see how patheticly self-centred she is, watch the video where she finds her flat has been hit after she had run away.


    • Guest Who says:

      Like Springster, only more peroxide.

      The gals in the cubicle gardens prefer to stay with the darker hues. And don’t get allowed out much.

      Hence’ scoops’ on stuff from mid Asia lifted from the social media sites back home they live off.


    • atlas_shrugged says:

      I could click on a bBC clip to watch but I know it would just bring me out in a rash.

      It is bad enough just on the radio. When driving there is not much choice on FM and so last Sunday there was a program on Radio 4 about a travel book called Venice. Then they had to talk about the authors Jan Morris bleeding sex change. The bBC just cannot help themselves every single opportunity to ram their deviance down peoples throats.

      This is classic bait and switch.

      Thank god for Classic FM


  19. AsISeeIt says:

    Lobbying pays off and the slightly aggrieved edition

    The Financial Times picks up on the delight of those corporations that regard the notion of Britain taking back control as anathema: Business ‘breaths sigh of relief’ after post-Brexit goods safety mark ditched… Climbdown over rival to EU scheme… Industry’s lobbying pays off

    Mr AsI is a sucker for those little journalistic flourishes like: Industry’s lobbying pays off – or this minor classic quote garnered from some random bod ‘trade expert’ at a consultancy firm: ‘Companies that have sunk money into adaptation will be slightly aggrieved’

    Whereas 17 million Brexit voters, who may discern this limp-wristed lack of willingness from government to take back control as conveniently enabling us to be slid back under Brussels’ control some time soon all the more easily, well, aren’t we allowed to be a bit miffed?

    The gayer we are, the happier our media will be

    Sex is never far from the mind of the left-leaning ‘i’ frontpage. This morning the flippant attitude is exemplified by the teaser for their Relationships feature: Treat sex like a hobby – you’ll get better at it

    Most of those we tend to regard as serious titles: Times; Guardian; FT – go with big colour pics of women footballers celebrating on their frontpages – the Graun honours the importance of the subject with the largest proportion of its cover space – Mr AsI estimates 45% excluding the masthead logo

    You go girls… no one is watching

    So much media female celebration and promotion – but while the England sisters are enjoying do it for themselves Downunder, two lonely young boys are left with nothing to do (with the real footie still a few weeks away) but kiss each other – as depicted on the frontpage of the ‘i’

    The Life feature – whatever that means (?) teases with: The Netflix drama helping young people come out. How Heartstopper has changed lives

    They agree Brexit is a dirty word but ‘i’ and FT appear to be at odds concerning the economic outlook: Recession fears grow as interest rates set to rise until Christmas… Experts warn rates could peak at 6% (‘i’)

    You pays your money and you takes your choice…

    Lenders reduce mortgage rates after inflation cheer… NatWest, Halifax and Virgin Money have said they will cut home-loan costs… on the back of a brighter outlook for inflation (FT)

    Read this next FT news briefing headline carefully: Niger evacuation to start

    No, the Tories haven’t suddenly got tough on immigration and are channelling the resurected spirit of Enoch Powell – in fact even more migrants will likely soon be heading our way, care of the French: France is to begin evacuating its citizens and other Europeans from Niger (FT) – and if you recall the complexion of those ‘British citizens’ evacuated from Sudan recently, you’ll realise what the FT means by the word Europeans is a legalistic passport-holding definition, not an ethnic one.

    Meryl Streep starred in the much celebarted at the time but now largely forgotten 1985 movie Out of Africa

    Paleoanthropologists claim all of humanity originally came out of Africa. Our present establishment appear to want to emulate and to recreate that evolutionary phenomenon.

    UK foreign aid cuts: Thousands will die as a result, says report… Thousands of women in Africa will die in pregnancy and childbirth as a result of cuts to the UK’s overseas aid budget, ministers have been warned… According to an internal assessment by civil servants (BBC)

    I thought we were already doing our bit by welcoming thousands of refugees over here? But we’ve the problem of where will they all live? We suppose if more of us turn gay that should reduce our population a bit.

    PM demands end to migrant hotels as barge plan delayed (Telegraph)

    If you build it, they will come – that’s the quote attributed to American showman and entrepreneur P. T. Barnum

    But on the other hand, since we’re not building enough… maybe if we just apply a bit of pressure we can squeeze a bit more free space…

    Second home owners… looming tax raid under Labour (Telegraph)

    Scotland’s crackdown on short-term renting… playing out accross Europe with lack of housing triggering local opposition to holiday lets (FT) – local, really?

    It was TV’s dark comedy combo The League of Gentlemen that gifted us those sketches set in that notorious local shop (for local people) on the edge of the fictional Royston Vasey.

    When it comes to the subject of housing those loud claims we tend to hear trumpeted for the needs of local people seem to be equally fictional, not say tinged with the sinister.


    • G says:

      ‘Another day, another billion or two frittered away’


    • Fedup2 says:

      The script for the barge seems to be already written – the fire brigades union says it is dangerous and if there’s a fire difficult to evacuate –
      So the inevitable fire on board – coupled with disastrous publicity and lawyers coming out of the woodwork for ‘compensation ‘ – tower block style – is inevitable ….

      Do you notice the pace of all this stuff ? Whether it’s gas storage or nuclear or Hs2 or dealing with invaders – there is no drive to get it done – and any old ‘pressure group ‘ gets disproportionate attention when it wants to block something …


  20. Doublethinker says:

    The political establishment of Britain has, in my lifetime, given us:

    Edward Heath

    Lied about the long term ambitions and aim of the Common Market and sold it as a free trade area, nothing about it being a United States Europe. No vote allowed on something which he knew would profoundly impact the country for many decades to come.

    Expelled Enoch Powell for warning of the dangers of mass immigration.

    Wilson/ Callaghan

    An economic policy which forced the UK to get loans from the IMF and caused massive inflation which took a decades to get under control.


    Signed us up to a United States of Europe without a

    Blair ( highlights only )

    Mass immigration boosted to critical nation destroying levels but hidden from the public

    Got us into the Iraq war on the basis of lies

    Moved power and accountability away from Parliament to unelected , unaccountable quangos, supranational bodies and judges. In effect this diminished the power of our votes and hence of democracy. The consequences can be seen by the inability of the Government to stop the illegal migrant invasion.

    Devolution which May in time lead to the break up of the country. As will the Good Friday Agreement when terrorism was rewarded and British soldiers doing a difficult and dangerous job have been hounded for decades as a result.

    De valued the education system with ‘uni for all ‘ policy .

    Boosted the pay of all public sector workers such that it overtook that of the private sector worker but did nothing about their woeful productivity.


    As PM and CoE allowed banks to get out control ending in 2008 crash which us the tax payer hundred or two billion.

    Sold our gold at rock bottom prices.


    Ran a referendum campaign to force a remain vote based on lies, propaganda and fear. Then ran away despite his promises to implement the result.


    Presided over an attempt by the political elite to overturn the result biggest democratic vote in our history. Undermined democracy big time.

    Enshrined in law unrealistic and probably unnecessary climate change targets


    Put Net Zero targets on the statute book which are far more stretching than most other countries and will make us all much poorer.

    Acquiesced to prolonged and numerous Covid lockdowns when there was ample evidence that the later ones were unnecessary and highly damaging

    Increased immigration whilst claiming to control it


    Too brief a stay to comment on


    Seemingly completely ineffectual at just about everything.

    Why is Lady Thatcher missing ?

    Well her biggest mistake was thinking it was about economics alone and ignoring the culture war. She won hands down on economics but her legacy has been squandered long since. Her lack of attention to cultural reform is now at the root of many of our ills. She had the chance to get rid of the BBC but decided against doing so and set up Ch4 with too lose a remit allowing it to be easily captured by the left.

    Anyway , even after this litany of highly damaging policies , lies and failures over the past fifty years the Westminster clown circus expects us believe in them!

    I used to think they knew better and were acting as they thought best for the country. I know better now.


    • Grim Upnorth says:

      Good morning Doublethinker and thanks for your enlightening post.
      Reading it reminded me why I totally despise every single politician, living or dead.
      I have not voted for many years as none of them represent my ideals and beliefs – I refuse to play their ‘democracy’ game as it is just a massive lie. They are all corrupt, scheming and absolutely untrustworthy.
      I frequently hope for some sort of coup that would rid us of the national embarrassment that is parliament, and then run the country by honest, descent common sense.
      Alas, I now realise that will never happen as the political class have created an indestructible, self perpetuating bubble from which they mock the tax paying population at every opportunity.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I wonder if the real problem is that the characters who get the top job are so focused on themselves that any beliefs they have just get drowned – with the exception of Thatcher – who needlessly failed on a number of fronts – the others have been just self serving .
        The current unelected one just wanted to tick the box – he cares less about Blighty – his heart and green card is in California – the next one is barrister – so is amoral and so more interested in self advancement that the needs of taxpayers ….

        We are effed .


    • atlas_shrugged says:

      Which one of these useless PMs was not an Oxbridge graduate?

      Time to close down those PPE courses and start some about Common Sense instead.


    • MarkyMark says:

      1978 … “Every country can take some small minorities and in many ways they add to the richness and variety of this country. The moment the minority threatens to become a big one, people get frightened.” – Margaret Thatcher 1978


      2012 … “Two and a half years ago, the coalition government was formed, and we made a clear promise to the British public. After thirteen years of uncontrolled mass immigration, this government would reduce and control immigration.” – Theresa May 2012

      2015 … “Because when immigration is too high (no figure given), when the pace of change is too fast, it’s impossible to build a cohesive society.” – Theresa May 2015



  21. Non Snowflake says:

    BBC4 last night had a Frank Spencer evening, consisted of a cosy chat between the two main stars, a showing of the very first episode and a 1977 behind-the-scenes programme.

    All very good and it reminds that the bBBC can, very occasionally, put something on which can be enjoyed by the majority rather than the pathetic tick-box wokeness that ruins most of their output.

    In fact the biggest surprise was that they didn’t have one of those snowflake “warnings” in the corner of the screen .


  22. StewGreen says:

    Is Radio4 going all ethnic all the time ?

    Today’s drama “Bangla Bantams
    Inspired by a true story of how a Bradford Bangladeshi women’s group became loyal Bradford City football supporters, but then Covid happens
    This moving and inspiring drama focuses on a fictionalised family, based on the true story of how a Bradford women’s community group became part of the Bangla Bantams supporters group for Bradford City Football.
    When Nessa’s son-in-law proposes her Ladies group come and watch the football live, she thinks he’s crazy.
    Her best friend, Farida thinks differently

    Yesterday’s Word Of Mouth which I thought was supposed to be focussed all about the English language was again all about immigration
    as writer Sheela Banerjee plugged her book about immigration
    the link being her family name had been anglicised by the British in India
    Then as usual presenter Michael Rosen banged on about his own family’s immigration story and how his Grandfather had changed his name
    (That’s not the Rosen part which is from his other grandfather and us still Jewish)


    • StewGreen says:

      4:30pm show kept banging on about “black empowerment”
      The topic was a Harlem, NY woman who took to giving free concerts in her aparment to spread love
      A worthy person
      but we don’t hear as often about worthy people from Japan or China or Russia etc.


  23. Sluff says:

    Not BBC
    ITV last night featured an equal pay case at ASDA.

    Women in supermarkets want the same pay as those working in warehouses, who earn more. Since more men than women work in warehouses ASDA are being branded sexist.

    We then had two vox ops from female ‘victims’

    One was a single mother with four children, one of whom was disabled.

    The other was so obese she could barely walk through her front door. And yet she’s complaining she doesn’t earn the same as someone working in a warehouse.

    Words fail me,
    Different TV channel. Sadly the same woke leftist playbook.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Er, but won’t the obese woman need a lot more food? Surely that justifies not just equal pay but greater pay, especially due to the food inflation caused by the Tories? And where are the Trussell Food Banks and Marcus Rashford when you need them?

      Every citizen will be a public man, sustained by, supported by, and occupied at the public expense. – Etienne-Gabriel Morelly, Code of Nature “Sacred and Fundamental Laws that would tear out the roots of vice and of all the evils of a society”, 1755.


    • StewGreen says:

      Asda being in the news is strange
      cos the precedent for warehouse wages vs supermarket checkout wages was a Marks and Spencers case about 20 years ago
      Then there was a Tescos one
      As I remember

      The jobs are different
      Men get strained and injured in the warehouse
      Women have contact with the public, so sometimes got abuse.
      If women were really cheaper, then the corps would fill the warehouses with female staff and not employ males at all.


      • moggie63 says:

        I used to work in an Asda distribution centre. There weren’t many women but they earned the same as the men for the same work.


  24. StewGreen says:

    Do journos think one thing, yet broadcast another, even conspire ?
    Hot mic conversation shows they do

    31 Jul 2023
    A senior ABC journalist has been caught making an “astonishing admission” about the public broadcaster’s failure to investigate the origins of COVID-19, Sky News host Sharri Markson reports.

    The comments were caught by microphones set up for the AUSMIN press conference with US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken on Saturday afternoon.

    ABC foreign affairs reporter Stephen Dziedzic admits he probably didn’t look at the lab leak theory “dispassionately

    The second bit of the hot mic is about ABC redundancy of Political Correspondent Andrew Probyn
    they fired the super lefty
    but then recruited another lefty


  25. Flotsam says:

    Portland ‘Refugee’ Barge Farrago.

    The fire risk is, no doubt, being exaggerated by the wokies. You couldn’t think of more woke organisations than the Unions and the Fire Birigade Union more than most. Face it, every house, building and boat in the World has an identifiable level of fire risk. I’m pretty sure if the inspectors want to fail any the barge they will be able to. There is of course no such thing as ‘risk free’ anything in the real World and in reality an acceptable level of risk will normally be found. The barge has always being considered to be acceptable for offshore workers.
    Smarmer and Labour will no doubt be encouraging the inspectors to come out with the ‘correct’ assessment in order to embarrass the Government.

    The right course of action would be to stop the boats in the first place. Why is this situation being allowed to continue?


    • StewGreen says:

      The barge did the same job in Holland, where it was not deemed a fire risk.


      • Guest Who says:

        Ah, that because it is flatter there, and they use bicycles.


        Ask the display bins riding around with her kids in a bucket on front.


  26. tomo says:

    DJT’s statement on the latest effort to lock him up…


  27. digg says:

    Asylum barge death trap repeats the BBC.


    Making it absolutely certain that some “activists” will torch the vessel with no regard fir the lives that might be lost just as I believe they did in Canada and Greece,


    • Guest Who says:

      Maybe the Gov can assign the Grenfell Fire Marshall to sign off?

      And station a bunch of diverse overweight or undersized wimmin nearby to carry those husky refugee men from the third floor gyms to safety. If not locked inside to burn in the fires the lads started, for defiling them.


    • Flotsam says:

      Activists won’t be needed to start the fire, I’m sure the migrants will manage that themselves. It will be back to the four star hotels for them, in towns and cities with far better opportunities.


      • Nibor says:

        Why not give the (bogus ) asylum seekers the choice ?

        Stay on the barge or go back to France .


  28. digg says:

    Costa so far continues to stand up for the practice of mutilating human bodies in the great trans crusade!

    You would think the Bud Light fiasco would have rung some alarm bells but maybe they committed before that happened or they assume they have enough trans customers to keep them afloat!

    BTW I much prefer Coffee No.1 anyway myself!


  29. andyjsnape says:

    We need more than 5% women?

    The female aviator helping women get their wings

    this should be exactly 50/50! honestly bbc, if women aren’t bothered, then 5% is acceptable


  30. taffman says:

    “Bibby Stockholm: Asylum barge not a death trap, minister Grant Shapps ”

    We are being invaded by young , fit and healthy men .
    “Stop the Boats” .
    Our prisons and hotels are full, while we have a shortage of houses.
    “Stop the Boats”.
    The people of Great Britain are in danger .
    “Stop the Boats”.


    • G says:

      It must be a hour by hour daily exercise in dancing around to avoid all the legislation already churned out by ‘Our’ Government past and present. Not long now before it all comes to a shuddering halt when the conflicting, badly worded/thought out legislation morass of the stuff, is seen to be non-compatible with more recent. Call it, ‘unintended consequences’ if you will, but that will be a fig leaf for the overwhelming desire by Government to legislatively ‘strangle’ people and companies. People have to trip over it daily. Most of the ‘new’ stuff has not even met a court which will be the arbiter of what the legislation actually means and/or set out to achieve. Good luck with that, I say. Right now, ordinary people, if they are so minded, have no idea what the legislation means overall. Ditto police.


  31. Guest Who says:

    Net Net from Nut Nut going well. When Saddo and and Boris are at the root of anything… scarper.


    Our council just swapped due to the last lot being obsessed by it and screwing the county up royally in laughably tragic pursuit.

    Along with all BBC local democracy media trying to rig it all. And a few old biddies lying in roads.

    LEZ and ULEZ fallout shows this working up the slimy political poles.

    Nice to see Mr. Watts is not a Getty aficionado.

    One clarification:

    “…threatening to wreck the credibility of mainstream politicians.”

    Dude… ‘threatening’?

    That is a Greenpeace diesel sailed long ago and sunk by French commandos.

    The politico-media establishment is joined at a fatal hip on this, and the £trillions have yet to kick in with the £billions so far showing zero impact except to the bank balances of eco-fundsters, Dale Vince, Grant Shapps’ co-pilot and Justin of The Med’s cheeky Prosecco barkeep.

    Plus Soaf, still rubbing spray tan at jet-set jolly locations with randy old UNtouchable men.


  32. Guest Who says:

    Little summary of BBc triumphs.



  33. JohnC says:

    Question for Fed (or other forum expert if available) – I’ve posted it here as I’ve had it before and it might help others:

    For some reason unknown I’ve been subscribed to this thread and I’m under email-attack and my phone is in a panic with all the sudden activity.

    However if I go to ‘manage subscriptions’ and attempt to unsubscribe, I get the error ‘You have request to manage another email address and this is forbidden’. So I can’t turn it off.

    Any solution anyone ?.


  34. StewGreen says:

    Mr Rotten Politics has a new video picking up on a Steve Laws tweet
    “Another dodgy immigration lawyer found..
    We need to find and expose every single lawyer
    that are milking the tax payer for illegal migrants”

    No Mr RP, you are going to end up in libel court, cos she’s not in the same league as the proven fraudster lawyers.
    So don’t jump into “2+2 =5” thinking
    All they’ve got is a video of her Tik Tok video saying “If you are an illegal I can help you become legal”
    It’s no use the tweeters saying she is advertising to serve criminals
    That is what all lawyers do. They serve criminals and they are allowed to advertise them.

    The more interesting thing is that she is a Newcastle LABOUR councillor too and has fingers in other pies.
    “Councillor Irim Ali. Irim provides political leadership for housing and planning strategies,”
    “elected in 2008 and has since been the region’s first and only black female Councillor.” (she looks Middle Eastern not black)

    Irim Ali
    Consultant Solicitor at Tyler Hoffman & Cabinet Member Newcastle City Council

    BBC have aired her in 2021 https://twitter.com/scienceatlife/status/1374450462301114370


    • MarkyMark says:

      A 48-page report said every one of the cases involved him making a legal error

      Immigration judge who got case after case wrong is STILL in a job despite his peers ruling he has ‘very little idea’ of the law and that his blindness is no excuse
      Dr Amir Majid was found to be ‘wholly failing’ to meet the standards of a judge
      An Upper Tribunal in north London considered appeals relating to 13 cases
      They found he’d referred to a Bangladeshi as homosexual with no evidence
      He failed to address ‘genuineness’ of Nigerian bride trying to join her husband
      A 48-page report said every one of the cases involved him making a legal error

      PUBLISHED: 00:46, 7 October 2017 | UPDATED: 02:03, 7 October 2017


  35. tomo says:

    Irim spoke of the council’s work in recruiting community champions to raise awareness about the vaccine rollout.


    • tomo says:

      Google doesn’t find any vaccine promotion for the lady in the last year – I wonder if she’s shifting to injury stuff…..


  36. andyjsnape says:

    Rishi Sunak: I care about reaching net zero carbon emissions

    Electric cars..
    “rules due to come into effect next year that require car manufacturers to sell a certain proportion of electric models”

    Certain proportion?
    For example a new Vauxhall Corsa petrol, starts at around £19k
    or a new Electric Corsa, starts at £34k

    Just how is the public going to be conned out of spending around £15,000 more, and can the general public afford it anyway

    Suppose the manufacturers can build more electric, and leave them in a field to rot


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      I have a friend who works in a car dealership. Nearly all the sales of electric vehicles are to companys for their fleets, it’s only once in a blue moon they sell one to a member of the general public. And quite a percentage of those are returned at the earliest opportunity.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I bet there will be a surge of buying new petrol cars in the lead up to 2030 …..


      • micknotmike says:

        I was watching an episode of “Hoovies garage” on youtube a while back. He had a Plymouth Superbird which runs on 110 octane leaded fuel. He could only buy “gas” at the local small airport. I want one of those by way of offsetting electric vehicle environmental damage. Search for images on google, now that’s got to be better than a nissan leaf.


  37. micknotmike says:

    “Newsworthy” item on the bbc front page –
    Anton Du Beke (Who he?) “I was stabbed by my father as a child”
    So what?


    • Non Snowflake says:

      Very selective by the bBBC – normally when someone gets stabbed they bury it in local news…………..for some “unknown” reason……….


    • digg says:

      He was trying to make sure that you understand that father’s are usually male and therefore as everyone knows naturally horrible beasts who ideally should be wiped from the planet.

      Anton had a double whammy as his father was probably white as well as male.

      BBC top fodder albeit a little surprising as the BBC tend to avoid stabbing stories as a rule.


    • atlas_shrugged says:

      Dear bBC

      It is so important that you never mention that a family member can be murdered by a wimmin totally legally, or a special legal reduced category, or with no legal sanction:

      In the womb – Abortion
      After birth – infanticide
      As a baby – wimmin are mad e.g. smashing the childs skull on a staircase, poor Oatley “must be helped not punished” a judge.
      As a husband stabbed while sleeping – he inflicted DV and Mz Booth will pin a bravery medal on you.
      As an elderly relative – wimmin was stressed

      The list goes on and on and on

      When will we see equality in jail figures 80k men v.s. 3.5k wimmin!!!!


  38. digg says:

    The Just Stop Oil nutters seem to be giving it a rest…

    Meanwhile I need to dig out my waterproofs and jumper to go and see if my allotment is OK. And I live on the warmer South Coast!


  39. digg says:

    The USA is becoming a dictatorship. They are embracing the political tactics formerly only used by third World dictatorships and banana republics.

    The hounding of Trump, especially as he is becoming a growing threat to the left wing blob smacks of the same tactics used in Eastern Europe, Middle East and third world shitholes.

    I guess the phrase “Home of the brave, land of the free” is now nothing more than a joke.

    Good luck US citizens, if they get away with doing this to Trump think how easy it will be to go after you if you don’t follow the mantra.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Saudi Arabia TV mocks Biden’s cognitive decline in ‘hilarious’ comedy skit


    • G says:


      One ‘fly in the ointment’ on the way to that Communist dictatorship –

      “46% of American households own at least one firearm according to a study by the University of Chicago. 32% of Americans say they personally own a firearm according to the 2021 National Firearms Survey. This means that more than 81.4 million Americans own guns. This number only includes adults over 18.”


      That, as “households” excludes current military people who I’m sure would rush to get involved in sympathy with the public……………


  40. tomo says:

    and yet Biden crime family sails on…. with nary a word effectively from the MSM including Brillo – which kindof indicates that the MSM are OK with this kind of shit?


    • MarkyMark says:

      Jeremy Hunt: everyone will be paying more tax after autumn statement 2022

      Everyone. Everyone. Everyone.

      Theresa May, Former UK PM earned £1.86 million in her 2 years since leaving Downing Street, figures show

      Barry Gardiner defends donations worth £500,000 from Chinese agent

      Matt Hancock, who lost the Tory whip after it was announced he would be appearing on the ITV programme, is still being paid as an independent MP and is rumoured to have been paid £400,000 to appear on the I’m a celebrity.

      Boris Johnson earns £315,000 for 30 minute speech and ‘fireside chat’ in United States

      Chuka Umunna Advisory Board of The Progressive Centre UK think tank (also known as Global Progress)

      Jeremy Corbyn Labour party leader accepted up to £20,000 (about $27,000) for appearances on the Iranian state broadcast network Press TV

      Keir Starmer £18,450 from Harper Collins as an advance payment for a book.

      Boris Johnson Accommodation for a private holiday for my partner and me, value £15,000 Destination of visit: St Vincent and the Grenadines

      Jeremy Hunt £10,000 from Citigroup Centre for speaking at an event on 9 March 2021. Hours: 4 hrs. Fee paid direct to charity. (Charity not mentioned)

      Nadhim Zahawi MP promises to repay the part of £5,822.27 expenses claim for second home energy bills that relates to electricity for stables

      MPs to get £2,200 pay rise from April for ‘dramatically increased’ duties last year

      Philip Hammond accepts £2,000 watch from Saudi sheikh, despite ban on donating expensive gifts


    • Doublethinker says:

      Even the thickest person must know by now that the justice system in the US is being used by the Dem/RINO coalition as a weapon to silence those leaders who disagree with hyperglobalism .
      Many who suffer from TDS actually support the justice system being used in this way . It’s very similar to the way the globalists in the UK think that debanking NF was a good move , one to be applauded not condemned.
      The globalists keep raising the stakes , they keep doubling down . If they ever lose power there will be retribution a plenty. They know this and so they are locked into a vicious circle of escalation. They have keep hold of power or they will end up behind bars. Therefore things are going to get worse, the corruption will become even more blatant , the lies more outrageous, the punishments meted out to their opponents increasingly severe, the suppression of unwelcome facts and truth ever greater.
      The big question is how long can they keep the lid on things? How long will ordinary folks be fobbed off with bread and circuses? When ordinary people realise that they have to pay through the nose for the green agenda , will that make them turn against the globalists? Is that why Blair is starting to voice doubts about Net Zero?


      • Eddy Booth says:

        Slimeball Blair having a sudden and uncharacteristic anti globalist insight?
        Got to be some kind of controlled opposition tactic.


    • JohnC says:

      In their desperation to stop him running, the Left have dropped their masks and what we are seeing is almost unbelievable.

      This is 3rd-world shithole politics.


  41. digg says:

    BBC blaming climate change for the wet cold weather. It seems like only yesterday they were blaming climate change heat for the wildfires

    Heads they win, Tails you lose in effect!

    Bit of info the BBC might not be aware of….

    An extended hot period tends to evaporate a lot of moisture into the atmosphere, eventually and inevitably when the amount of water in the atmosphere reaches a certain level it will naturally return to earth often in large volumes.

    It’s called the weather system.

    Someone tell the BBC weather blobs please, it’s getting bloody boring now!


    • Flotsam says:

      I call it the witch doctor syndrome. You pay him to perform a magic dance to make rain, cure you of cancer etc. So……..it rains, you’re cured of cancer so the witch doctor is a great man. It doesn’t work, you haven’t given him enough money.


  42. MarkyMark says:

    The Labour appointed Chairman of the National Infrastructure Commission in Wales wants to ban the public procurement of meat. The Chair, David Clubb, started a petition seeking to ban government meat procurement as he called for people and organisations to switch “to exclusively plant-based diets”.



    • StewGreen says:

      Not really news, extremists do strange things and sometimes die.
      It tells us nothing about normal vegetarians
      hundreds of millions living long lives.

      I stayed in a raw food community, so I have researched it.
      It turns out that
      #1 the fruit we eat today, is bred to be super sweet
      so is not like natural jungle fruit

      #2 Humans have been cooking food long enough to have become genetically adapted to it. And there quite a few advantages
      eg It means we can have smaller jaw muscles and therefore more space for brain,

      Eat more meat cos it annoys political greens.


  43. Fedup2 says:

    World at one ( and Simon jack is back )

    I don’t get frightened very often – but today I did . You see – Jonnie dymond interviewed a blue labour minister who is in charge of ‘energy security ‘. It’s one grant shapps ….

    That’s why I got frightened – I wouldn’t let shapps near a knife – not even a blunt one . As transport sec . He was responsible for closing roads and putting in effing cycle lanes .

    Today he is crowing about closing the last coal power station next year – it’s as though worry about electricity supply never happened .

    I was swearing at the radio and damning this regime of fools . Absolute fools . Not an effing clue …. Shapps – just get to the lords with the other fruit loops …


    • Flotsam says:

      I saw Schapps interviewed on GB news. I noticed him saying the public supported net zero. Either he’s lying or deluded.


    • tomo says:

      Shapps is a gourd musical instrument… played by mischievous SPADs who no doubt have some kind of office sweepstake on who can prompt him to say the stupidest things.


  44. Fedup2 says:

    Simon jack was just commenting on the fool shapps – he hasn’t been asked about the Nat West Farage affair …. Yet …maybe it’s gonna be a motion picture with Tom cruise in the Simon Jack role …. Farage to be played by Miriam mad margolyse …the Dame stazi one to be played by TV s Debbie miserable meaden – as played by Harry Enfield …


  45. Thoughtful says:

    Breaking news that the US T bills have been downgraded from AAA to AA+ meaning the US will have to pay more for its borrowing.

    Borrowing in the past month ballooned to $1.2 trill (in a month!) and the spending is wildly out of control running at least 30% than Yellen forecasted and the reason why the much forecast collapse and financial crisis hasn’t happened yet.

    Aug 2 (Reuters) – Rating agency Fitch on Tuesday downgraded the U.S. government’s top credit rating, a move that drew an angry response from the White House and surprised investors, coming despite the resolution of the debt ceiling crisis two months ago.

    Traders’ immediate response was to embark on a safe-haven push out of stocks and into government bonds and the dollar.

    Fitch downgraded the United States to AA+ from AAA, citing fiscal deterioration over the next three years and repeated down-the-wire debt ceiling negotiations that threaten the government’s ability to pay its bills


    It’s not that long ago that this would have been considered headline news, and it should be because it’s significant, but not the BBC sidelines it to the business section – boring and what the greedy capitalists are interested in not the sainted left wing concerned hand wringers are interested in at all.


    • Flotsam says:

      You can’t buck the market(s) as people say. The only thing that surprises me is that it didn’t happen far sooner. The markets seem to be tolerating all sorts of deficits around the Western World. I can only think that the market players are gaining in some other way. Vaccines anyone?


      • Thoughtful says:

        There have been several comments about the state of the debts in several countries, and one in particular goes.

        The US Dollar might not be the best looking asset, but it’s the prettiest pig in the slaughter house.

        In other words, it’s bad and so is everywhere else such as China. Oman might be a more stable currency or even Saudi but would you feel safe doing that?


      • G says:


        The more detail you look at the more you understand that virtually everything is rigged. Fraudulent cartels at work, yanking strings from behind the scenes. The internet ‘outs’ the lot of them bit by bit. I believe that’s why the WEF/UN et al. are pushing like never before to quickly gain World control: They’ve all been found out and the illusion of so-called, ‘Democracy’ is crashing before everyone’s eyes demonstrating that our “Leaders” are no different in their aspirations than Pol Pot, Stalin, Putin, Xi Jinpin, Johnson et al.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      It’s all right when the Democrats are in charge.


  46. Northern Voter says:

    You know this crap about the illegals cruise ship they won’t allow being berthed in Portland? Easy answer, anchor it outside the 12 mile limit, show the commy fire brigade union the finger, along with the rest of the fellow travellers.


  47. JohnC says:

    Trump’s backers flip the script on ‘election interference’

    Got as far as the first article by ‘Mike Wendling’, a BBC disinformation reporter.

    Mike starts with:
    Trump’s backers flip the script on ‘election interference’

    Then proceeds to try and infer Trumps backers are guilty of double standards after claiming the last election was rigged.

    Sorry Mike, but the only claims of election interference were the FALSE claims by the democrats that Russia interfered. The claims by Trump were ‘election fraud’. Completely and totally different.

    Seems that Mikey’s title ‘disinformation reporter’ should be taken literally. What a prize turkey amongst a whole BBC rafter of turkeys he is (I had to look it up as well).

    I could not bring myself to read any more.