Start the Week 31st July 2023

A review of BBC Funding ? To be done by the current ‘government ‘ . Well here is a hint – subscription only – you want it – you pay for it . Not the taxpayer…

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  1. Up2snuff says:

    OK, I will leave a comment. I agree with Fed’s header to this Thread.

    Oh dear, first again (sorry, Brissles), but only because I’ve been chatting with Fed!

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    • JohnC says:

      ‘Despite’ all the corruption and insider information at the highest levels to gain the top-slot, I can still bask in the glory of second place for three days just by replying to the first comment !.

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      • Eddy Booth says:

        Bbc-trash.jpg

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      • Up2snuff says:

        JohnC, love your reply, brilliant; 🙂 x10 but you only get two days from this morning as Fed will put up the Midweek Thread on Tuesday evening. Will I be ‘goal-hanging’ like the late, great, Jimmy Greaves?

        All depends whether our Fed is on Brissles time. My body clock is usually telling me at 10 p.m. these days to turn the computer off and go to bed.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Up2
          I am so excited about my exercise of power on Tuesday evening / night ? ( around 2100 Uk time ) that I am going to stay awake until then – using marky marky s posts from 2018 to do so – and the one about comrade barry china gardiner and his £500 k bung from the PRC in 2021 ?

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Fed, LOL x 10! 🙂

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          • Scroblene says:

            Fed, any chance that I can be first on the Midweek Posting please?

            I’ve still got the negatives, you know, and while the Royal Mail isn’t as fast as it used to be, a few more days won’t make that much difference – we can easily settle for the next Weekend session!

            John – we need to discuss this urgently! Shurely it must be ‘First past the post’, for the winners’ prize – a night out with the Labour Front Bencher of your choice…? Or, maybe go the whole hog, and vote by PR, so you’ll end up with Crayons, Flipper, Abbott, (twice), and the surrogate Polly Toynbee…

            Uppers – ‘Look, there’s a squirrel – here, come over to the window, just leave that keyboard for a few minutes’…

            (Why does a couple of large Marlborough Pinots make one so ecstatically funny, witty, generous, sincere, stupid, ridiculous, pissed as a fart and generally a complete and utter ar……):0(

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  2. Nibor says:

    BBC ( and powers that be ) ,

    We want Britain to be the leading nation in

    The lowest crime rate
    ( and criminals punished because we don’t like them )

    The least congested roads
    ( and motorways to have hard shoulders )

    The cleanest cities
    ( no vandalism )

    The most secure borders
    ( and ALL illegals deported)

    No homeless people
    ( everyone to have a place to live whether by rent , lease or buy )

    Lowest unemployment
    ( training for Brits and everyone has a job to suit their abilities)

    Great armed forces
    ( professional and proud )

    The least wokeness
    ( common sense to rule )

    Loyal , open and accountable civil service
    ( not devious, indolent as if trained by Yes Minister )

    Freedom to watch television
    ( and not have to pay for a corporation that sneers at our beliefs and values )

    The best ability to be self sufficient
    ( so cut the population and grow more of our own food , and use our resources not import them )

    Cheap energy
    ( no one fears dying in the cold )

    We do not want to be “ at the top table, the first , the leaders in , use our soft power “
    In Net Zero , giving our money away, poking our nose in others affairs and using our servicemen as world policemen .

    We don’t our politicians and civil servants stomping the world stage

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  3. Deborah says:

    I read that Gethin Jones is being bothered by a stalker so him employer had paid for security to protect him. His employer is of course the BBC which means it is the licence payer who is paying. If I was being bothered, I suspect I would be paying myself.

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  4. micknotmike says:

    Evenin’ all,
    I take a keen interest in events in Ukraine, as I’d like to know if it’s worth insuring the car for a year as there’s a fair chance that we’ll all be dead before I get my money’s worth.
    The bbc, as you would expect from them, are gleefully reporting the events in Moscow where civilian areas are being targeted and are telling zalensky what a clever boy he is. Z. thinks that Russia should return to the pre-2022 borders so that Ukraine can return to torturing and murdering thousands of Russians in the Donbas (Read about events following the Miadan offensive in 2014, don’t bother looking on the bbc of course).
    My point, and I’d welcome a better-informed opinion than mine, is that I am sure that when all nations were shipping arms to zalensky and the rest of his circus, there were express instructions that they would not be used under any circumstances to directly attack Russia.
    I think that Ukraine had offered assurances that such events would not happen.
    Was I mistaken? If not, then what has changed? Who in nato has instructed that all bets are off and the eu better put up and shut up? The usa I’d guess, but who is running things over there?

    Final note to the bbc – these attacks are a dangerous escalation in the wrong direction, so don’t be so celebratory about it.

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    • JohnC says:

      The BBC and their ridiculous propaganda worthy of Geobbels have whipped their ignorant Leftist supporters into such a frency that in the last Ukraine HYS, a top comment said NATO should get involved directly and ‘to hell with the risks’.

      And people who write anything factually correct but not in favour of Ukraine=Good, Russia=Bad get downvoted by a factor of around 5.

      As I’ve said many times now, things have degenerated so much that the BBC are attempting to lead the British public by the nose to support WW3. Fortunately it seems that the only people it has worked on are spiteful lefty activists with a mental age of about 12.

      Now I read Biden is arming Taiwan.

      Remember when they told us how Brexit then Trump would lead us to WW3 ?.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Mick
      Assuming the attacks on Moskva was conducted by the Ukraine – where does that leave Russian public opinion ( they are all against us ?) nuclear war – yeah for mother Russia against the old man Biden and his friends ?

      Every time the threat of the use of nuclear weapons frightens because sooner or later some is gonna go for it .. and the confusion / timescale is gonna be beyond Obama or anyone else .
      If I was putin I’d use them in a way to win – with Obama unwilling to damage the US – but Europe ? Who cares ..?

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  5. StewGreen says:

    “Nudge unit” stuff in this SkyNews tweet

    On ClimateCast,
    @tomheapmedia is cooking up a storm in the kitchen 🧑‍🍳
    Food is responsible for around a third of emissions, so making diets greener couldn’t be more essential to fight climate change 🌎
    How can consumers be nudged to make a change?
    🎧 https://podfollow.com/skynewsclimatecast

    That crazy thing where media are supposed to be DIVERSE
    but we get the same LONDON media luvvies on different networks
    #NetZealots #NutZealots got 15 Likes
    Ratioed by 47 replies , 45 which attack the prog

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  6. Flotsam says:

    Transport for London and their road charging systems.

    I recently drove to South London quite close to the South Circular. I live up North and haven’t driven in London for quite a few years. I needed to pick up a large and heavy item so public transport was out of the question.
    It turned out to be a really tough drive. There were long sections of 20mph speed limits and lots of signs for all sorts of charges and restrictions. The question was for me, had I incurred any charges? When I got back home I had no idea what I had to pay. Reading Tfl’s site there seemed to be three separate potential Charges, one for LEZ, one for ULEZ and the congestion zone charge. I was aware of the Congestion charge but I not aware of there being two separate emission charges.

    Ok, I thought. I’ll go on the payment section of their site and I’ll see what they want off me. Putting my reg in I find they suggest I might want to pay a Congestion charge and a ULEZ charge. Investigating my car I find it is Ok LEZ compliant. I didn’t think I had passed into congestion charging zone though and what’s this ULEZ thing?
    As I wasn’t sure, I thought I’d ask Tfl to tell me what I owed. I received the following reply:

    ‘Thank you for your enquiry received on 25 May 2023, regarding vehicle XXX XXX.
    Please be advised we are unable to retrospectively check if you have been into the zone.
    This is as, in accordance with privacy and data protection legislation, we only retain images of vehicles that travel in the
    zone if they are going to be issued with a Penalty Charge Notice.
    The only exception to this is if you are registered for the Auto Pay service. In such instances the image of your vehicle
    in the zone will be retained, usually for up to two months.
    If you have paid the Congestion Charge and/or ULEZ or your vehicle is exempt or subject to a 100 per cent discount
    then we do not retain a record of your journey in the zone.
    It is the responsibility of the Registered Keeper of the vehicle to establish if their route took them through the zone and
    arrange for payment of the charge.
    To check if your route took you through the zone you can view the map on our website. This may also help you plan
    future journeys.
    The daily ULEZ Charge is £12.50 (if applicable to your vehicle) and the daily Congestion Charge’

    I think what they are saying is Alice in Wonderland.

    They only know if I owe them anything if I have incurred a penalty…….Really?

    Scamsters!

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    • atlas_shrugged says:

      Well that puts me off racing my bike at the Hillingdon cycle circuit in londonistan ever again.

      It is bad enough trying to fend off the thieves trying to steal the bike from the top of the car when the driver is still inside without adding the highway robbery by the little khant and others.

      The little bar stewards who implemented this system should have their free tax-payer provided bullet proof cars removed and be made to cycle.

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  7. BRISSLES says:

    Flot, talk about think of a number, add ten then multiply by your age ! I think most drivers who rarely visit London wouldn’t know where the hell to start!. Bad enough going online to pay the Dartford toll crossing.

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    • Flotsam says:

      Yes, the talk about expanded ULEZ seems to focus on London and outer London residents who will be reasonably familiar with the Tfl systems and will probably be registered for automatic payments anyway. Occasional visitors don’t seem to enter into the conversation. The penalties are eye watering. I would have thought a reminder with a nominal extra charge is surely fairer but hey! Greed is good.

      I had thought to contest any penalties if they had arisen on the basis that Tfl had failed to provide any specific demand for payment (of the normal charge)

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      • Fedup2 says:

        I think having a registration like XXX XXXX is gonna get a fine – charge it to R Sunak 10 Downing St Sw1 – he always pays ..

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    • Deborah says:

      The Dartford crossing took money from me that I still haven’t forgiven them for. Going to a wedding over the river, I didn’t realise a late return journey didn’t have to be paid. I paid for both ways and because of Covid didn’t return to use the unused half in the permitted time period.

      Meanwhile I often visit north London and sometimes need to dip inside the ulez zone. Being incapable of texting to pay car parking I use the M&S car park. (I shop there too) but the car park used to be very busy, but I can now easily find a space. I suspect the little old ladies who would nip out in their non compliant old banger to get something for supper and speak to the nice gentleman on the checkout can no longer afford to do so. They probably now stay inside all day and not speak to a soul, their health will deteriorate until they have to go into a care home. Thank you, the caring Mr Kahn.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        If the little old ladies are white it’s no problem, they are probably racists. Their demise will make space for the Nu Londoners, who make the city ever more vibrant and diverse.

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    • tomo says:

      A friend of mine got caught by the lorry ULEZ with his Transit camper van = £440.

      Ignorant that his van was considered a lorry / commercial vehicle for the purposes of municipal banditry.

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      • Guest Who says:

        This is pure establishment revenue scamming.

        How are different folk driving different vehicles in different parts of the country supposed to ‘know’ the new categories and rules?

        Especially when signage is deliberately sparse, confusing and positioned in unsafe locations for drivers to read and then check status at the wheel?

        On two occasions back on non average speed camera stretches we were the only vehicle down to 50mph due to E-signage for several miles, for a non existent something until it was cancelled.

        One day all those ignoring will be hit with fines no matter they are used to these things being left unupdated.

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        • tomo says:

          Guest Who

          – especially when regional rules wrt to eligible rules varies

          My old Honda is OK in London but not Bristol.

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  8. tomo says:

    The church of ULEZ anybody?

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  9. andyjsnape says:

    Only 10 ?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Dear Marianna Spring (BBC wages paid under threat of prosecution),

      As I’ve had to look at your BBC news and use other sources to determine that your news is not news but selective editorial opinion I’d like to request that I have a refund for the last 4 years plus get the BBC free from now on.

      Please let me know how I can go about this as I am willing to create a full list of articles that I’ve had to investigate plus time taken for me to check your fact checker whilst realising that the BBC intentionally removes news rather than incorrectly report on it, uses images to sway opinion or misleads with the main titles hoping no one reads the full article.

      ‘Omission is the greatest form of lie.’

      CAS-4987700-SY1FTF : BBC NewsWatch says boredom with pro-Brexit march.

      CAS-4844672-N8FDYY: Update on the MP Expenses 2009 scandal in 2018.

      CAS-4939547-J71Z1V: Here’s hoping Ireland do the right thing G.Lineker.

      CAS-4937378-YKMWBJ: BBC not reporting ‘Day of Freedom’ March 06may2018.

      CAS-4906141-BFJQL0: I take offence that presenters promote their books.

      CAS-4892811-C820SC: I am offended that I have to pay the BBC TV Tax.

      CAS-4824332-633N1P: What happened in Italy was not covered …

      CAS-4933135-ZV3V7F: The omission is the most powerful form of lie …

      CAS-6005141-S1V9D1: Not seen a report on the UK Governments Covid19 

      Let me know how to go about resolving the issue of paying for something that wastes my time as I have to check each story rather than rely on its accuracy.

      Cheers,
      Mark
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications

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    • Flotsam says:

      Can’t agree with some of the choices and the order. Top two are obviously, to me, Savile and the Diana interview. Having the BNP leader on Question Time provided a bit of balance for once and an opportunity to debate. Griffin and BNP policies.
      There are so many other BBC misdeeds that could have been highlighted.

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  10. AsISeeIt says:

    We can often count on the left-leaning ‘i’ newspaper to provide a bit of sauce with our breakfast – be it promotion of the ‘throuple‘ or somesuch edgy alternative life-style notion: I went to a soul sex circle and my vulva had something to say about it (‘i’ News, for open minds) – And of course the left-leaning ‘i’ is no friend to our Brexiteer-in-chief, woke bank-buster Nigel Farage: We sex workers have bank accounts closed all the time (‘i’)

    Tomorrow I’m guessing the ‘i’ will feature drug peddlers complaining their high street branch won’t bank their cash takings. Legalise it, we’ll advertise it.

    Weight-loss drug shortage to last into next year (‘i’)

    Silly season, you ask…?

    Summer brollydays… five deluges on the way… The curse of the great British staycation – complains the Daily Star

    Cats and dogs…?

    Exclusive: Killer dogs plea (Daily Mirror) – here they go, like a dog with a bone, or as the Bible would have it – a hound returning to its vomit – the Mirror go barking up that ‘dangerous dogs‘ legislation tree yet again: Don’t let my son’s death be for nothing… Dad reveals family’s nighmare as he backs Mirror campaign for law change – quite what exactly that desired legislative detail might be is presumably spelt out in the small print somewhere?

    Sometimes you have to read between the lines to find the real story behind the reports where mainstream journos fear to tread

    On it like a car bonnet?

    TV Vicky’s terror as Uber explodes (Mirror); Vicky Pattison ‘shaken’ as Uber bursts into flames moments after she got out… The former Geordie Shore star, 35, took to her Instagram story to relay the “absolutely terrifying” ordeal, which occurred while her and her fiance Ercan Ramadan were travelling to a dinner date on Saturday evening. Pattison posted a video of the car engulfed in a raging fire with the caption: “I was in that car minutes ago.” (A welcome debut hereabouts for the Islington Gazette – north London’s finest providing the details – apart from whether or not the car involved in this apparent incidence of spontaneous combustion was battery powered, perchance?)

    Another SADS case

    Olympic cyclist… has spoken of the trauma of witnessing her partner die beside her… from a cardiac arrest (Telegraph)

    Scottish mountain biker Rab Wardell has died just days after winning the Scottish MTB XC Championships. Scottish Cycling confirmed on Tuesday evening that Wardell died in his sleep, aged 37 (Bloomberg)

    Simply typing this poor chap’s name into the Google machine one finds the search engine pre-empts a question: People ask: Was Rob Wardell vaccinated? The answer is at first glance an assumption: The European Union and Canada both require non-residents to be fully-vaccinated. While it is possible to enter with a vaccine exemption, it is far more likely that Rab Wardell was fully-vaccinated. (Tech ARP)

    But it’s not what you’re thinking, apparently…

    Rab Wardell : Cause Of Death Was Not Vaccine SADS! People are still claiming that Rab Wardell died from vaccine Sudden Adult Death Syndrome, but that’s not true! Take a look at the viral claims, and find out what the facts really are! The next day, his wife – Katie Archibald – spoke out, explaining that Rab Wardell died from a cardiac arrest he suffered while they were in bed together. (Tech ARP) – please don’t jump to any naughty conclusions there, readers!

    Patients and their partners should be made aware of the low risk of arrhythmias and sudden cardiac death during sex but reassured by their cardiologists that these events are rare. (National Institute of Health)

    Do the math?

    I’m 50. Only younger men want to date me. Why? (Times)

    It turns out that it’s our BBC that are in the sudden climactic state of heart-stopping ecstactic rapture: Nouhaila Benzina becomes first player to wear hijab at World Cup

    The breathless ‘i’ takes up the story: I was wrong about the hijab and Morocco’s Nouhaila Benzina has just proven it. My Muslim pupils have shown me that they are empowered by wearing a hijab… The 25-year-old defender’s white kit was complemented by white leggings, a white underlayer and a pristine white hijab in what immediately became an iconic representation of female empowerment. (Opinion By Stefano Hatfield)

    Benzina has only just broke the mould is a reflection of Morocco being the first Arab nation to compete in the competition. Their history-making victory over South Korea was impressive, but it is the image of Benzina in head-to-toe white that will prove both iconic and iconoclastic. (Stefano Hatfield – calm down, son) – and with a bit of luck we’ll forget all about this gaff: BBC admits asking Morocco captain ‘inappropriate’ question at Women’s World Cup… A BBC journalist has faced criticism after asking Ghizlane Chebbak if there are any gay players in the squad and what life was like for them in Morocco, where same-sex relationships are illegal. (Sky News)

    Physician, heal thyself

    One in four GPs turn to private healthcare… “NHS waiting lists are too long” (Telegraph)

    Public sector, eh?

    End this farce! Three hours on hold for Tax office (Daily Express)

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Did you know – when you ring the tax people they ask you whether you want to be spoken too in English – press button one . I’ve phoned many times in the last few months – I’ve asked for a Klingon translater they say they are working on it . ..

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “Same-sex relations can be punished with up to three years in prison in Morocco” Wear a hijab – get all the good news!
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-52446170

      What does Morocco import from Russia?
      Morocco Imports from Russia Value Year
      Mineral fuels, oils, distillation products $1.65B 2022
      Inorganic chemicals, precious metal compound, isotope $240.01M 2022
      Fertilizers $75.27M 2022
      Residues, wastes of food industry, animal fodder $61.54M 2022

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  11. digg says:

    The BBC is on relentless Climate Alarm footing this morning, every bloody story has a climate alarm ringing.

    They are even using footage from events many years ago to dress up the exercise. Because it’s gone a bit cooler and wetter they are targeting flooding stories and even potholes are being claimed as climate-related events.

    They are also rolling on some nodding dog transport bigwigs to reinforce the push, These well-paid snakes only too willing to blame climate rather than their own shabby failings for service disruptions.

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  12. andyjsnape says:

    Hello Digg

    I watched a good video on youtube over the weekend, with the temperatures and warnings the bbc said would happen over a week in Europe.

    The bbc weather exaggerated every days temperature, and some by over 10degs higher

    PS, sorry i’ve tried to re find the link on youtube, but not been able to – funny how your allowed to find/search for the bbc crap, but the “truth” is a little harder to find 🙁

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    • digg says:

      True Andy… was pondering why UK rail fat cats are moaning about for instance rail tracks being liable to buckle in hot weather (a phenomenon that has occurred from time to time in the UK for as long as I can remember) never question why countries such as Australia and the Middle East with much higher summer temperatures and many rail tracks crossing extremely hot desert areas etc. don’t seem to have the same issues? Or maybe they just get on with sorting them out instead wailing or trying to close down their economies?

      By the way, you can’t escape by shifting from BBC1 to BBC2 they are doing the same climate bollox and are even more strident… “should we just stop oil” being the banner currently running non-bloody-stop!

      The climate “crisis” would be much reduced by simply shutting down these babbling idiots and letting sane people get on with their lives.

      I do wonder if they care a jot about the younger and more gullible population as they try as hard as possible to scare and worry them to despair?

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      • Grim Upnorth says:

        Hi digg. The reason that Britain’s railways suffer from track buckles is due to the extremes in temperature between the height of summer and the freezing winter.
        When a long length of rail is installed, it is stretched and then welded to the next rail which has also been stretched. This is to accommodate the rails expanding in hot weather and then contracting in cold weather.
        Due to the limit that a rail can be stretched before it snaps, this is based on the range between average hot & average cold temperatures for the UK. Once the rail temperature exceeds the average hot temperature, then there is a risk of track buckles occurring.
        The much hotter countries that you mention i.e. Australia and Middle Eastern countries, do not suffer the same average hot to average cold temperature range as the UK, so their rails can be stretched to accommodate their highest hot temperature without having to accommodate the far colder winter temperatures that we experience.

        Hope that makes sense – next week I’ll post an article about the perils of leaves of the line…..

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  13. Fedup2 says:

    Today
    Only heard the headlines . But the professor of A and E telling us millions will die this winter because hospital car parks are not big enough got me . You see the ambulances queuing to give their victim substandard NHS ‘care ‘ need more space .

    Between the strikes hospitals have been busy building more corridors to store patients prior to killing them but it’s the car park shortage . Other better countries have lots of car parks and they are bigger .

    A department of health spokesman said they are looking at having bigger car parks but might get smaller ambulances ….they’ve invested trillions of pounds in reviewing the issue – a report will be published by 2030..

    In other news – the government has refused to extend July by another week and there are plans to pump imported oil into the North Sea once someone figures out how to do it …

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    • tomo says:

      NHS car park operators rubbing their hands then?

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    • Sluff says:

      Join the dots.
      ULEZ
      Low traffic neighbourhoods
      Now small hospital car parks.

      It’s all linked. ‘We don’t want to encourage the use of the car’

      So you are supposed to get to A and E on the bus. I know, I know, it’s crazy. But it’s what the blob actually thinks and wants.

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    • atlas_shrugged says:

      Another trick the anychess use are multiple appointments – instead of knocking the issue on the head in one go.

      So if every issue needs 20 appointments then there are twenty more cars looking for car parking spaces. Kerching!

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      • MarkyMark says:

        Following the 2010 United Kingdom general election, the UK Government under the Cameron–Clegg coalition announced plans to curb public spending through the abolition of a large number of quasi-autonomous non-governmental organisations (quangos). This was styled in the national press as a “bonfire of the quangos”,[1] making reference to Girolamo Savonarola’s religiously inspired Bonfire of the Vanities (“falò delle vanità”).[2][unreliable source?]

        On 23 May 2010, Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne unveiled a £500 million plan to reduce the budget deficit by abolishing or merging many quangos. The cuts and closures received criticism in some quarters,[3] but was generally welcomed by the business community.[4] A decade later in 2021, the UK Parliament’s Public Accounts Committee claimed in a report that the reforms “failed to spark” and that the Cabinet Office has “not been enforcing the code for public appointments”.[5]

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  14. Fedup2 says:

    Oh yes – the ‘climate crisis ‘ as officially been upgraded to a ‘climate catastrophe ‘ . Global warming – recently upgraded to Global Boiling May be changed to Global Frying ….. they are gonna hold a conference about in St Tropez or maybe vegas – somewhere with a lot of space for private jets ..

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  15. andyjsnape says:

    The looming battle over pylons for green energy
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-66336599

    “The Great Energy Transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy has numerous dimensions: jobs lost and others created, electric vehicles, biofuelled planes, scrapped gas boilers and triple glazing”

    The GREAT ENERGY TRANSITION, apparently

    How much is this costing us!
    Triple glazing and replace my boiler which is only 18 months old

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Welcome to the wind turbine graveyard. It stretches a hundred metres from a bend in the North Platte River in Casper, Wyoming.

      Between last September and this March, it will become the final resting place for 1,000 fibreglass turbine blades.

      These blades, which have reached the end of their 25-year working lives, come from three wind farms in the north-western US state. Each will be cut into three, then the pieces will be stacked and buried.

      25-year working lives

      25-year working lives

      25-year working lives

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51325101

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  16. MarkyMark says:

    If citizens take no interest in your politicians, then politicians will take no interest in the citizens.

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  17. Fedup2 says:

    Politicians do what is in the interest of politicians – citizens are just the mugs who vote and pay for them ….

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  18. andyjsnape says:

    When the BBC News dancing man came to BBC London

    The bbc likes this, pathetic

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    • MarkyMark says:

      If you can keep your head when all about you
      Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
      If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
      But make allowance for their doubting too;
      If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
      Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
      Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
      And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

      If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
      If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
      If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
      And treat those two impostors just the same;
      If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
      Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
      Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
      And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

      If you can make one heap of all your winnings
      And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
      And lose, and start again at your beginnings
      And never breathe a word about your loss;
      If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
      To serve your turn long after they are gone,
      And so hold on when there is nothing in you
      Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

      If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
      Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
      If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
      If all men count with you, but none too much;
      If you can fill the unforgiving minute
      With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
      Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
      And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
      n/a
      Source: A Choice of Kipling’s Verse (1943)

         17 likes

  19. Scroblene says:

    This is three years old, and more pertinent than ever…

    I can’t imagine any Beeboid presenting this with their ‘La La La La’ hats on…

       16 likes

  20. Thoughtful says:

    I’m posting this for its geopolitical analysis, with a guy living in Dubai, an investor and economic commentator with many issues people here are probably unaware of because of the parlous state of Western media.

    The more I see of the hidden, revealed, the more I believe we are nothing more than a puppet state of America, and that America has behaved itself appallingly badly.

    I never realised there was open talk of ‘Dexit’ Germany leaving the EU and the Bundesbank now saying it cannot afford to finance Europe any more.

    There’s so much in this we simply are not being told it’s eye opening, and of such importance that it might make viewers angry at what isn’t being imparted to them.

       8 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Thoughtful
      The kind of events being predicted here are enough for even the most pessimistic disciple like me – if the solar weather cycle behaves as predicted the green crapsters are gonna have a field day – but are likely to be drowned out be people running to banks and supermarkets to empty them …. Buy tinned food futures ….

         7 likes

  21. digg says:

    BBC victimhood time.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-66342321

    A young couple in Scotland are having to move because they can no longer access free childcare for their under two year old children.

    Since when did taxpayers agree to hand over cash to couples who would rather both work to have a better living standard rather than taking on the responsibility of looking after their very youngest children?

    The way I see this is that they are demanding free babysitting so they can enjoy a better lifestyle at the expense of the tax payer.

    Of course to the BBC they are just another couple downtrodden and penalised by the wicked Tory Government.

    First question that comes to mind, are either of these two parents BBC employees?

       24 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Iirc the BBC provides crèche facilities for kids, otherwise known as the summer weekend editorial team.

      In our trip to Scotland we noticed two distinct groups.. a small core of very fit, very angry runners and cyclists, and massive deep fried pajama mums in fluffy slippers queuing for breakfast at Greggs.

      Oh, and drug dealers in mini cabs gathering after hours in off grid car parks to compare takings.

         22 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      My doctrine of not having kids if you can’t afford them isn’t too fashionable ..

         18 likes

    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Further on in the story –

      “Childcare provision for ages 0-2 is not a statutory requirement”

      So what’s the issue?

      This is all SNP

         11 likes

  22. Guest Who says:

    If a politician, fag paper between Surkeer and Washy, says something the BBC knows is right or wrong, how the BBC ‘reports’ will be down to how the BBC decides the agenda.

    Or… the grown ups are not yet back from the Med yet.

       6 likes

  23. Fedup2 says:

    Thanks Thoughful – although the video is long – it works well at x2 –
    One wonders how the US will derail the BRICS meeting in Joburg 22 -24 august .? I didn’t realise macron had tried to get an invite but was rejected – the duty US poodle – surprised rishi didn’t try to go ….

    Never heard of the 89 year gliesburg cycle but it accords with my view of green crap not having the data to justify the religious certainty expressed by a mental Scandinavian teenager …

    So much doom and gloom …. Through 24, 25 to the 2030s …

       9 likes

  24. Guest Who says:

    Guessing the map is EU only, so nice to see the U.K. state media and Russia bracketing the rest in what is controlled.

       14 likes

    • Sluff says:

      Dr John Campbell has been reporting on this for weeks.
      All around the world, countries have had 12 -18 months of excess deaths. Except respiratory deaths, because those most susceptible to that died during covid.
      Now we have consistent excess deaths especially in the cardiovascular area.
      And yet no-one is asking any questions. Except Andrew Bridgen. And look what happened to him?
      For instance, try this.

      Chief Medical Officer. No
      NHS clinical directors. No.
      Chief scientific officer. No
      Government. No
      Opposition. No.
      HoC Health committee. No.
      BBC. Are you joking?

      Anyone would think they had something to hide, such as an inconvenient or embarrassing truth.

         18 likes

      • Eddy Booth says:

        Misleading information, YouTuber John Campbell isn’t a medical doctor.

           5 likes

        • Guest Who says:

          Which part of it is misleading vs. less relevantly qualified in assessment?

          Given Dr. Biden, Dr. Shola are cited as experts often and Justin Rowlatt is not a pilot or climate expert.

             8 likes

        • Sluff says:

          No, he was that rarest of things, a male nurse.
          And did his PhD in a related field.

             2 likes

      • Richard Pinder says:

        The head of the Office for Statistics Regulation (OSR), Ed Humpherson, and Professor Norman Fenton and other Statisticians are complaining about the Office for National Statistics (ONS) not correcting its data showing that many deaths by vaccination are attributed to the unvaccinated, and that there are three times more unvaccinated than the ONS says. The ONS seems to be refusing to correct its errors, probably because of infiltration by the censorship industrial complex. But there are other avenues open to expose the mass murder by the establishment. Researchers have searched all published autopsy and necropsy reports related to COVID-19 vaccination through May 18, 2023, resulting in 678 studies. After implementing inclusion criteria, they chose 44 papers containing 325 autopsy cases and one necropsy case. A panel of three expert physicians independently reviewed each case to determine whether COVID-19 vaccination was a direct cause or significant factor in each death. Of 325 autopsies reviewed, 240 deaths, or 74 percent, were independently adjudicated as “directly due to or significantly contributed to by COVID-19 vaccination.”. Findings showed the most affected organ system in COVID-19 vaccine-associated death was the cardiovascular system at 53 percent, followed by the hematological system at 17 percent, the respiratory system at 8 percent, and multiple organ systems at 7 percent. Three or more organ systems were affected in 21 cases. The mean time from vaccination to death was 14.3 days, with most deaths occurring within a week of the last vaccine dose. The study results suggest a high likelihood of a causal link between COVID-19 vaccines and deaths in most cases. Also a third of a million people in Britain are recognised by the Yellow Card system to be seriously injured by the Covid vaccines. The Twitter files and ongoing investigations into government censorship by Congress are revealing how the Daily Mail, the Lancet and the ONS are under enormous pressure from corrupt intelligence agents, to censor information that reveals the true vaccination status of those who die. This is also being confirmed by Insurance experts for young people. Showing that Old people mostly died from Covid 19 and young people mostly died from the vaccine. A Vaccine Damage Insurance Report showed that Americans aged 18 – 64 who are employed, an estimated 300,000 of them died due to Covid vaccines, and another 1.4 million are now classed as disabled. Around the world this would translate to about 5 million deaths and 46 million with disabilities and as many as 900 million people with some injury for those under 65.

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  25. Guest Who says:

    A Corbyn in the BBC ointment.

       17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Let me guess – plod turned up tazered and handcuffed everyone in sight for ‘their safety ‘…. ?

         13 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Piers Corbyn and team at Aldi APP ONLY store Greenwich Thurs 27 July. Piers gained entry. Chose a Box of strawberries 🍓 and put down CASH Payment on the HELP TABLE while the security said he wasn’t allowed to pay by cash. And then left the shop advising the staff to call the Police…
      @Iromg

      ……………..

         10 likes

      • Sluff says:

        The penny has just dropped.
        Legal Tender may come to Piers’s aid.
        Which as I understand it is the technicality that if you pay for something in Legal Tender, which means a maximum of various coin and note denominations, you cannot then be sued for failure to pay the debt.
        Aldi might struggle to get out of that one.

           2 likes

  26. Guest Who says:

    BS’ squeeze Dino cruising past again?

       9 likes

  27. Guest Who says:

    This was retweeted by Mad Al.

    I remember when the Economist was not a journalistic joke.

       14 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Rishi says his Green Card is so he stands with the UK – until he can leave and make more money in the USA for his father in law using InfoSys!

         6 likes

    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Oh I’d love to show them ‘Right-Wing’

         14 likes

  28. Guest Who says:

    Chris Packham for climate minister under Caroline Lucas!

       23 likes

  29. Guest Who says:

    Frankly swearing might be preferable to an ECU of that potty mouth.

    Labour noted of course for it’s cracking down on drug dealing gangs.

    Look at the successes of Sadiq in London.

       18 likes

  30. andyjsnape says:

    Quote from bbc webshte
    Drilling licences fly in the face of climate science – Oxfam
    The head of Oxfam Scotland has said the backing of new licensing rounds to drill for oil and gas in the North Sea was a “short-sighted and selfish decision by the UK government” which “flies in the face of climate science and common sense”.

    So they found an expert from OXFAM? You know the charity that helps the poor and have obviously diversified into being experts in “climate change”

       26 likes

  31. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – diction, lad, diction

    Chris Mason, a Yorkshire lad, is partnering JustRemainIn Webb presenting on Toady this morning. HarshMistress Mishal is obviously on her hols. For the Big Interview Chris Mason announced the interviewee as General Sir Richard Barentz or so I heard and thought. Thought I’d check the spelling, ‘z’ or ‘s’ like a proper journalist 😉 especially as there is no running order for Toady as in the old days. Typical BBC, always taking away never giving.

    General Sir Richard Barentz turns out to be General Sir Richard Barrons. I do speak ‘northern’ and listen ‘northern’ although my ancestors were from an adjoining county that had a famous bust-up w’Yorkshire. So I put it down to declining standards of diction on the part of BBC presenters.

    To the interview: Gen. Sir Richard Barrons said ‘so’ a lot, almost at the start of every sentence. I have a friend who puts on a funny voice when he hears someone saying ‘So’ at the beginning of a sentence and says “You said ‘So’. You must be an expert, then.” I hope Gen Sir Richard is not an expert at estimating the cost of the West’s poxy war (spelling deliberate – I think war generally, with some notable exceptions, WW2 and Falklands among them, is bad and to be avoided if possible) with Russia over Ukraine. He reckoned the annual cost at £100 billion! I hope the EU and the US are paying the largest share of that.

       14 likes

  32. Fedup2 says:

    The ‘so’ phenomena must be an extension of thar upward lilt thing which people unsure of themselves used to use a lot . ‘So ‘ seems to have replaced it . Whenever I hear one of these characters doing their ‘so’s on the wireless I tune out because I don’t think they’re worth much ….

    So I suppose it’s inevitable that the Ukraine thing will spread into Poland with some corridor thing as usual ….

       12 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, I found myself wondering whether it is a ‘thing’ for Common Purpose lecturers or is actually taught by them as ‘so’ is some sort of ‘power word’. Often used by wimmin in my experience of BBC RadioFlaw.

         12 likes

  33. MarkyMark says:

    GO BY DNIGHY?

    “I’ll be flying as I normally would and that is the most efficient use of my time… If you or others think the answer to climate change is getting others to ban everything they’re doing [Geissler interjects] to stop people flying, to stop people going on holiday – I think that’s absolutely the wrong approach.”

    The government’s green energy announcement is off to a flying start.
    order-order.com

    ……………………………………………

    boat%20(2).jpg

    https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEip_yXbzq4gGAdkOYdgq7PmUteGqpKeu5Y50JIqx2qyUPGeQ6iWzUO-dMKqcDyug-rLhE9TLI9P9h7TP6w7FhvsF-MsIxT0YoBY_NtCva5o8dhnrll36HNEAU29exx9G4ZpxjDd9Cj4pKcxSmeuG_CJFPx8YSZHAb6LB3JjdxQ0tGAkLC4Hizfxr4DsDRI/s2048/boat%20(2).jpg

       3 likes

  34. Flotsam says:

    Did I really see Sunak holding up a green (yes, literally painted green) briefcase?

       7 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Supposed Female has breakdown over being misgendered. This is what gender ideology does to young, confused people. Incredibly sad.
      ….

      NHS gender clinic, the Tavistock Centre, could face legal action over alleged ‘failings in care’
      The new group claim seeks to unite people who may have been “started on a treatment pathway that was not right for them”.

      Katerina Vittozzi
      News correspondent @kvittozzi

      Thursday 11 August 2022 01:04, UK

         3 likes

    • Mrs Kitty says:

      Complaining that it was called she, to be honest it didn’t resemble a man either. So ( see what I did Fed) it’s obviously an it with apologies to the Adams Family.

         9 likes

  35. Lucy Pevensey says:

    The New Robin Hood steals from the poor and gives to himself.

       16 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      China emits 27 percent of global carbon dioxide and a third of the world’s greenhouse gases. This transition will require a massive shift in resources, innovation, and new technologies to enhance energy efficiency and resource productivity.

         5 likes

  36. BRISSLES says:

    Just wondering, are wildfires still burning down Europe ? Only asking because the weather maps show great swathes of blue (indicating rain) sweeping across the continent.

       15 likes

    • Non Snowflake says:

      Yes but surely the rain must be boiling…………….or something.

         12 likes

  37. andyjsnape says:

    Apparently if you turn your house into a mosque you dont have to pay the tele tax, its excempt

       18 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Western Isles’ first mosque proves hit with tourists as hundreds flock to Stornoway temple
      People have travelled from ‘all over the world’ to visit the place of worship since it opened its doors back in May.

      Bookmark
      SCOTLAND NOW
      ByJenny MorrisonFeature Writer/Advance Content Writer
      04:30, 30 SEP 2018

         5 likes

  38. JohnC says:

    Sunak insists new oil and gas ‘entirely consistent’ with net zero
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-66357043

    Another pointless BBC ‘Live update’ agenda piece where they bring financially-interested activists together to agree we should give them lots more money.

    But the bit which bugged me was this:

    Sunak: ‘This is new tech that Britain can lead the world in’

    Dear Sunak, I don’t want us to ‘lead the world’ in any of this because it’s ridiculously expensive and I have a very strong suspicion that a lot of the money just ends up in people’s pockets until they can’t bluff it any more.

    Why can’t we be ‘somewhere in the middle’ and let the big polluters pay for all this ‘new tech’ ? – which I am quite sure will fizzle away from the news and disappear completely once all the promises turn out to have been hype and th emoney is written off.

    If they put all our emissions/savings etc into a global perspective to compare with what China and the likes are up to, I am certain it would be absolutely insignificant – which of course is why the activists such as the BBC will never, ever do that. Because there’s taxpayers gold in that there CO2.

    For example, they say this scheme will store 10 megatons of CO2 by 2030 – ‘sucking it out of the atmosphere’.

    The top 5 emitters put out 55 megatons every single day. And that is from 2016. China has increased by about 20% since then.

       14 likes

  39. andyjsnape says:

    Another report on climate change, its relentless “reporting” at the moment is a joke

    What is carbon capture and how does it fight climate change?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-64723497

    Surely some news this organization can report on, with all the tele tax money it gets

       12 likes

  40. harry142857 says:

    Lee Anderson recalls son’s ‘shocking’ revelation after returning from university.

    The often outspoken and widely derided Tory MP Lee Anderson has earned comparisons to Alan Patridge after talking about his son’s ‘shocking’ revelation upon returning home from university.

    Anderson, who has his own show on GB News called Real Talk was discussing the new set of students that will begin attending UK universities for the first time in the next few months.

    However, Anderson’s address took a rather serious tone when he claimed that there are certain groups of people trying to “influence and indoctrinate” youngsters.

    The 56-year-old MP for Ashfield began by saying: “In just a few months time, young men and young women from all over the country will be going to university, a place of learning. They’re going to have a good time, they’re going to work hard and hopefully get better careers.
    But in the meantime, in our universities there are a certain group of people who are trying to influence and indoctrinate our young people.”

    He then began to recall what had happened to his son Harry when he went to university in Sheffield 10 years ago. Anderson continued: “I didn’t see him for months, he came back different. He had long hair, he had a beard. His clothes were different, a different attitude and outlook on life. I thought – ‘my goodness, Harry, what’s happened to you.’

    “He sat down with me on the settee, he put his arm on my hand and he says: ‘Dad, I’ve been away for a few months now and I’ve come back and I’m not the Harry that went away all those months ago. I’m different now, I’m a different person.’”

    Well, reader, you won’t believe what Harry told his father: “He looked into my eyes and said ‘Dad, look, I’ve got to tell you something about myself.’ He said ‘I am…’ I thought ‘Harry, just get on with it. You are my son, I love you whatever you are.’

    “He said ‘Dad, I’m a vegetarian.’ Shocking, absolutely shocking. Let that be a warning to you.”

    Now it’s hard to tell how much of this is real and how serious Anderson is being but nonetheless, Anderson has seen his story mocked on social media with many comparing it to something Alan Partridge would say on his radio show.

       8 likes

  41. MarkyMark says:

    Report: China emissions exceed all developed nations combined
    Published
    7 May 2021

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57018837

       8 likes

    • harry142857 says:

      In three years in the early 2000’s China produced more concrete than the United States did in the entire 20th century.

         12 likes

    • JohnC says:

      Don’t worry Mark,

      If we start storing it all in our new Scottish CO2 tank the public have just funded, in 7 years time we will have stored enough to take care of 10 of the 21,000+ million tons China alone will have produced.

      That’s how insignificant it is.

         7 likes

  42. tomo says:

    As a rule the BBC swerve reporting vigilantes – in Nigeria the locals up north-central have got fed up with being butchered and kidnapped etcetera and are taking matters into their own hands.

    jos-battles.jpg

    https://truthnigeria.com/2023/07/terrorist-swarm-repelled-by-citizen-guards-south-of-nigerias-jos/

    No mention on BBC pidgin

    – gushing piece on Sinaid O’Connor tho.

       11 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Yeah YouTube pushed sinead murdering ‘don’t cry for me Malvinas’ at me …ugh

         5 likes

    • JohnC says:

      lol, he needs to pull the hammer back first and looking at the rust in the barrell, I doubt that thing has been fired for years.

      Is it another Getty fake ?.

         5 likes

      • tomo says:

        It’s Nigeria … no photographer with even half a brain would stand in front of a loaded home-made shotgun.

        They’d probably want to see the chamber empty too…

        I doubt the real Citizen Guards want their photos in the media.

        A bit pathetic against an AK / belt fed SMG / RPG – if it even worked.

           4 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Recall a Biggles adventure where he, Algy and Ginger found a treasure trove of gold doubloons but had to stuff it in the cannon of the old fort they found it in as shrapnel, to repel invading sorts.

        More recently, touring various castles and their armouries, it was instructive how many were lost to unfriendly own side ordnance deployed with more optimism than skill.

        Shotguns do have limited lethal range vs. modern rounds at distance.

           4 likes

      • TrickCyclist says:

        A homemade Mau Mau rifle in the National Army Museum. Hard to believe that such things are viable weapons.

        1041793_half.jpg

           2 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Guns bad – unless ….

         2 likes

      • JohnC says:

        Keep up Marky : even cluster bombs are good now. They will actually SAVE civilian lives apparently.

        Unless Russia use them. In which case it’s a war crime.

           3 likes

  43. digg says:

    Screech of brakes and Shazam…. a u-turn….

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66362004

    “When will the UK summer weather improve?” Asks the two-faced BBC.

    You just could not make it up, just hours ago the earth is boiling yada yada yada.

    Obviously not rubber stamped by Justin Rowlatt that piece.

       20 likes

  44. tomo says:

    Meanwhile taxpayers in France are paying for Rebecca Chaillon to tour this

    skewering-white-babies.jpg

    Will BBC luvvies review I wonder?

       17 likes

    • digg says:

      Reverse the skin colours of the women and babies and the actors and directors would be behind bars in a flash.

      Now that is real racism in action!

         12 likes

    • G says:

      I watched a very interesting film on Netflix last evening. An excellent documentary on the James Webb Space Telescope, launched 21.12.21 and in good use at present. Throughout the film, the principal engineers and supporting staff confirmed the absolute dedication that all shared for over a decade. Thanks to our BBC et al, I now advertently view all such programmes with an eye to the black content and the only observation I can make overall, is to steal someone else’s description, the team is/was “Hideously White”. Only toward the end of the hour did I spot a black face. This reminded me of the recent History Debunked video:

         5 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      One of Doc Shola’s hairdressers other clients?

         2 likes

    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      I don’t know what you’re all getting hot under the collar about? It’s clearly just highlighting the practice of consuming dismembered albino babies, as recommended by African witch doctors to cure everything from HIV to cancer to impotency to poverty. Or, have I got the wrong end of the stick?

         1 likes

  45. digg says:

    Mystery Iron Age skeleton could be a woman warrior says the bbc..

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/66325159

    Of course it could also have been an Iron Age tranny of course!

    Or even better a tranny of colour!

    Missed a trick or two there Aunty I would say!

       15 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Was offered a chance to see the lady who played shield maiden Lagetha in ‘Vikings’ on some awful ad crammed site. Declined, but was tempted.

      Likely a Jo Brand class munter armed with a bit more than a milkshake.

         5 likes

  46. Fedup2 says:

    Some comrade from bbc Scotland asked Rishi how he got to Scotland – rishi said – well I’ve plenty of time so I cycled here .

    The comrade said but foreign PM – why not use the jet like PMs usually do …

    Rishi said he didn’t have time to answer the question as he needed to start the cycle from Aberdeen to London …

       7 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      What happened to that Niger thing ? Did everyone get bored or head off on their holidays ?

         4 likes

  47. Kaiser says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66357325

    canada thrashed by the aussies no mention of the mighty quinn transgender n0n-binary binary lesbian cis-gender thing

    other than a mark in the player ratings , obviously been rated by a bunch of bigots mind

    lol

       8 likes

    • Cooper_Man says:

      Oh don’t remind me about ‘the Almighty Quinn.’ I read the article about ‘them’ last week and it gave me a headache. I mean look at this paragraph and try not to feel like the world has gone mad:

      “They have been an important figure for the national set-up since making their senior international debut in 2014, when they became team-mates with players who had shown them there was a future in football.”

      In the end I came to the conclusion that she is a biological woman who doesn’t want to be acknowledged as a woman but wants to play for the woman’s football team – at least I think I did!!

         5 likes

  48. tomo says:

    Costa … can foxtrot.oscar

    What kind of BS is this?

    Time to give the utter morons at Costa the Bud Light treatment.

       12 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Chesterton: When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing. They then become capable of believing in anything.

         4 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      2023 – when mutilation was state/gov/nhs sanctioned.

         3 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      They offer on site invasive surgery as well as a caramel skinny latte?

      Starbucks to do triple bypasses or todger swaps?

         6 likes

      • MarkyMark says:

        Dip you penis into acid!

        …..

        Farage furious over Jo Brand’s ‘throw battery acid not milkshake’ joke
        This article is more than 4 years old
        Brexit party leader calls for police action over comedian’s comments on BBC Radio 4

        Jedidajah Otte
        Wed 12 Jun 2019 19.32 BST

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