Midweek 13th September 2023

This thread covers the 15th of September – which I’m sure the BBC would like British People to Forget ,,, and if you don’t know what 15th September commemorates – the wokes have succeeded … lest we forget .

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400 Responses to Midweek 13th September 2023

  1. Fedup2 says:

    Nice job Harry – I’ll be first one day ….


  2. davylars says:

    This Is disgraceful..
    wanting to repatriate gifts now…

    Antiques Roadshow expert asks guests whether they would repatriate ancestor’s African artefacts



  3. harry142857 says:

    Vibrant London

    Ain’t been the same since the Trotters moved out.

    Crowd blocks busy Peckham road after fight breaks out in store https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12509491/Crowd-blocks-busy-Peckham-road-social-media-video-appearing-shop-owner-hands-womans-throat-new-footage-shows-trying-steal-store.html?ito=native_share_article-top

    An angry crowd blocked a busy road in south east London today after a social media video appeared to show a shop owner putting his hands around a woman’s throat.
    Dramatic footage circulating on social media yesterday showed a scuffle between a woman and man – believed to be the owner of Peckham Hair and Cosmetics – Sohail Sindho, 45, who appears to put his hands around her throat after she allegedly tried to steal from his store.
    large crowd gathered outside the shop in Rye Lane this afternoon, which had already closed after news of the fight spread on social media.

    Anti-racism campaigners were protesting against what they claimed was an ‘example of everyday male violence against women’.

    The video, posted on Instagram, starts with Mr Sindho standing behind the woman as they grip onto each other while a person behind the camera threatens to call the police.

    The woman then hits him over the head with a plastic shopping basket after he appears to put his hands around her neck.

    The Met Police told MailOnline a woman was arrested on suspicion of assault and later bailed pending further enquiries. The force said the shop worker has not been arrested.

    Video in link.


    • StewGreen says:

      “After yesterday’s incident at Peckham Hair & Beauty, the Asian shop owner is now too afraid to open. The business is plastered with Black Lives Matter messages. Tensions running high.
      Lootings looking likely

      In what way is this intimidation acceptable?”


  4. Fedup2 says:

    I’ve watched the 10pm ITV news – with Tommy Bradbury – a white version of the Clive myrie – no pretence of any objectivity or authority – just tick box lefty porn – off switch after 9 long Bradbury minutes –


    • Up2snuff says:

      Now you know, Fed, why I don’t ‘do Telly anymore’: “off switch after 9 long Bradbury minutes”

      The reason why I wasn’t top of this Thread is that I lost track of the time just trying to manage my bookmarks for music on my PC. Yeah, I know; excuses, excuses. But I was having fun, R.E.M. stylee.


  5. TrickCyclist says:

    I know the Beeb is the proper target for this site but I’ve just been watching ITV News at Ten with Tom Bradby, Robert Peston and Joel Hills. Bloody hell, they are the triumvirate of tripe.
    Like watching three has-been actors trying to out-drama one another.

    Edit: Whoops, just seen Fedup2’s post above.


  6. Guest Who says:

    A truly unique organisation.



  7. tomo says:


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  9. TrickCyclist says:

    Lucky 13

    There seems to be glitch on this page. According to the header mine is the 13th post on the page but it’s only the 11th one visible.


  10. Richard Pinder says:

    “Informed Consent” Covid Vaccine Secrets: https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/videos/covid-vaccine-secrets/#


  11. JohnC says:

    Shakira Spencer tortured and starved, Old Bailey murder trial told

    So this story is starting to get my attention. It’s a terrible, horrific story about some truly evil people who deserve to be on the end of a rope.

    But it’s now at the trial stage and not a single clue anywhere about the people who did it – other than their names. How can that be ?. They are obviously not witheld for the usual ‘legal reasons’. It’s beginning to smell of another agenda-based cover up where they want to protect a certain group of people from blame.

    This is the only image I can find:


    Are they the main two accused I wonder ?. It would explain all …


    • G says:

      That sketch? Where are we? Three black images. Africa obviously……


    • StewGreen says:

      That one court sketch seems to be taken from BNN seems an Indian network
      So it seems court may be suppressing images of the defendant in the UK

      Shakira Spencer died after allegedly falling under the influence of former neighbour Ashana Studholme, 38, her lover Shaun Pendlebury, 26, and their friend Lisa Richardson, 44.

      Ashana Studholme, 38, her lover Shaun Pendlebury, 26, both of Ealing, and Lisa Richardson, 44, of Harrow are charged with the death of Shakira Spencer


    • Northern Voter says:

      The court artist has lost his pink pencil.


  12. JohnC says:

    So I’m reseraching the murder of Shakira Spencer and I stumble across this:

    Names and faces of the women killed in London in 2022

    And I start reading the names of the victims and who was charged with their murder. It went like this:

    Victim: Yasmin Chkaifi
    Murderer: Leon McCaskie (Black)

    Victim: Lesma Jackson (Black)
    Murderer: Her son

    Victim: Sabita Thanwani
    Murderer: Maher Maaroufe

    Victim: Yasmin Begum
    Murderer: Quyum Miah

    Victim: Shotera Bibi
    Murderer: Ali Subell

    Victim: Dolet Hill (Black)
    Murderer: Joshua Jacques (Black)

    Victim: Tanysha (aka Rachquel) Ofori-Akuffo
    Murderer: Joshua Jacques (Black)

    Victim: Ania Jedrkowiak
    Murderer: Dennis Akpomedaye

    Victim: Sakunthala Francis
    Murderer: Verushan Manoharan

    Then finally we get to one I actually heard of from the BBC
    Victim: Zara Allena
    Murderer: Jordan McSweeney

    And amazingly enough this one got full coverage and lengthy articles:

    Zara Aleena murder: Jordan McSweeney jailed for at least 38 years

    What an astounding concidence that the only one I recall reading on the BBC was the only one done by a white male.

    There were lots more but I just could not be bothered to read any more.

    100% racist discrimination. They didn’t care one bit about all the others because they couldn’t use it against white males.


  13. JohnC says:

    Peckham: Protest after woman restrained in cosmetics shop

    So now the BBC have this story and there is no mention whatsoever of what this woman did. And they can’t link to the video ‘for legal reasons’ but the Daily Mail can ??.

    Here’s the link to the video again : go down to the first video then click ‘watch full video’

    You need to move forward to 1:09 for some reason to see it start and all becomes clear. She is attempting to leave the shop and he is trying to stop her. She gets abusive and violent : he pushes her back in and she assaults him. As the video goes on she hits the shopkeeper over and over again.

    If the woman doing that was white, she would be branded the low-life, violent thieving scum she is. Because she is black, she is being treated as a victim.

    Clearly the BBC refuse to give any details because once again it’s the black people in the wrong and causing the trouble. Those protesters are pure racists. And the racists at the BBC are protecting them.

    it’s absolutely disgusting and shows just how bad racism is in the black community of Londinistan. Nobody dare say it because they then get 10 times worse.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Kneel to end shop lifting!


    • andyjsnape says:

      Hello JohnC

      Just like when certain people are arrested and get this escalates. Remember in the old days when people just said Fair Cop

      Luckily Det Ch Supt Seb Adjei-Addoh was there to make a comment – who? Adjejififj adddoddodh, guess its the new name for Smith


    • G says:


      With a ‘dollop’ of black triumphalism. Triumph in being able to defeat ‘whittee’ in most all circumstances. I regret not being able to find the academic paper which I stumbled on some years ago which set out the fact that, once a population reaches 20% of non-indigenous, the downfall/transformation of that society is set. I’d say, Doomed.

      That is probably why Rich Sunak & Co are ushering as many people in as possible to reach that 20%.


  14. JohnC says:

    Ah yes : September 15th:

    ‘Greenpeace Day’ : who could forget.
    And – as we all know – it’s ‘LGBT Center Awareness Day ‘
    Not forgetting it’s ‘Felt Hat Day ‘ and ‘Make a Hat Day’ too.

    I wonder which one Fed is referring to in the thread title ?.


  15. AsISeeIt says:

    Pix and mixed ethnicity shoplifting edition

    The BBC news online press review likes the FT for pole position in their newspaper line-up – and that paper just happens to carry a headline that has to have been designed and manufactured so as to allay any lingering corporate fears about the impending Labout take over bid: Labour cannot tax and spend its way out of Tory mess, warns Blair… Starmer praised for saving party… Ex-PM will not be back seat-driver

    If you think about it these brief headlines contain enough internal contradictions to excite an entire conference of dialectic marxist academics – but I repeat myself.

    Where to begin?

    Tony Blair presents to us his protégé for PM together with Labour’s new suite of revised Blairite-inspired policies – and then pretends that he won’t be calling the shots from behind the scenes.

    High tax and massive state spending commitments are in a nutshell the essence of the present Tory government’s cleft stick conundrum: PM to meet NHS leaders as winter pressures loom (BBC)

    Think of the next general election not so much as a genuine choice between policies for voters but as more of a reshuffle of the Uniparty as manifesto small print tends to coincide – for example: State pension triple lock under threat after election… both Labour and the Conservatives fail to back it beyond the election (‘i’)

    In broken Britain news: High-Street Crime Surge… Year of the Shoplifter (Labour-supporting Daily Mirror) – cash-strapped, hungry and too over-worked to visit the food bank, kitchen leftover bin-dipping NHS nurses and rabid devil dogs roaming our streets, must take a Blairite backseat for this new Mirror campaign and the solution will no doubt be something along the lines of…. tough on the causes of crime…?

    The Mirror makes a very bold commitment: Send us pix & CCTV… we’ll publish them

    If they honour that promise without first making some serious photographic redactions – then the Labour red top will be boldly going where our BBC certainly fear to tread: Peckham: Protest after woman restrained in cosmetics shop… The BBC is not showing the video of the incident for legal reasons… Marlon Kameka said he joined Tuesday’s protest to show “solidarity with black women” (BBC)

    Marlon there conjuring visions of some heroic latterday Rosa Parks protesting black women’s equal right to shoplift – alongside her white Romanian gypsy cousins.

    Primark joins protest over retail theft and staff abuse… George Weston, chief executive… adds his voice to counterparts at Waitrose and Tesco. “It will continue to deteriorate unless the authorities recognise the issue we’ve all got” (FT)

    He [Marlon] told BBC London: “Women are at the bottom of the hierarchy, especially black women, and it’s about time we changed that.”… The shop that was the focus of the protest – which the BBC is not identifying – is now boarded up and there’s a presence of about 15 police officers nearby. I’ve seen some protesters kicking the boarded-up storefront, with others actively working to calm feelings down. – a mostly peaceful cordoning off by 15 cops and boarding up, then? (Guy Lynn, BBC London News) – for those few of us hereabouts who haven’t quite mastered the knack of reading the runes, catching the nuances, between the BBC lines – this bust up in Del Boy Trotter’s old manor, that’s no doubt little more than (metaphorically) a stone’s throw from Mandela Towers – well this will be an intra-diversity squabble, so to speak. Asian shopkeepers attempting to do their own policing – without the benefit of all that diversity sensitivity training with which our Met Police now come so well equipped.

    Platitude of the week goes to a regular winner of that title…

    Mayor of London Sadiq Khan said: “I know Londoners are concerned by the events in a shop in Peckham. (BBC)

    In high culture corner…

    Bolshie Ballerinas

    Ex-dancers describe body-shaming at top ballet schools… Grace says she was told she needed to lose weight – Oh, the humanity… By Mark Daly, A BBC Panorama & File on 4 investigation, Additional reporting by Hayley Hassall – with apologies to Darcey Bussell… I’m a poet, but didn’t know it

    Oh Mr Darcy! I often have vivid sexual fantasies – and I’m not ashamed to admit it Kate Lister (‘i’)

    But seriously, chaps, what’s good for the goose ain’t necessarily so for the gander. Try not to even think about kissing those women footballers… Maaate!

    On the one hand the Guardian goes all puritanical on us: Is it time to stop having pets?

    But on the other hand the Gruan can be as saucy and as edgy as the next left-leaning organ: What 10,000 young people told me about pornography (Guardian G2)

    Meanwhile at what we suppose to be the other end of the moral panic political spectrum: Why does no one seem to care what pornographic music videos are doing to young women… and men? (Sarah Vine, Daily Mail) – one has to admire that late male after-thought tacked on at the end there. Hmmm… could the media be prepping us for some online harms bill, some impending complusory digital ID roll out? Just a thought.

    Speaking of the glories of diversity, as we were earlier on – the giveaway corporate ad sheet, the Metro, promotes the former Mrs Thatcher’s go-to knicker outlet – M&S – with the prime cover advert copy pushing their babywear with the simple tag line: Oh, baby

    Five kiddies are modelling for Marks n Sparks and only two of the five are white – one wonders for a naughty moment – is that middle England retail store perhaps racially profiling their shoplifers?


    • Fedup2 says:

      On the upside – at least with industrial level shoplifting the ferals don’t need the traditional Tottenham / Brixton riot to steal their goods … and judging by the publicity the iPhone 115 is getting they won’t be bothered to ‘upgrade ‘…

      As far as the Mand S advert I suppose the 2 white kids are polish or special Needs sort of thing …


  16. MarkyMark says:

    Theresa May: My Brexit deal would have been better for UK
    2 hours ago

    Brexit: Chequers plan gives no competitive advantage to Britain over EU, UK negotiators admit
    Brexiteers and Remainers alike seized on the admission

    Jon Stone
    Friday 07 September 2018 08:07


    • Deborah says:

      Isn’t it amazing how when it is something the BBC agrees with, a statement can be quoted without question. Just because Theresa May says her deal would have been better for the UK, doesn’t make it true. Theresa May is one of the most duplicitous UK politicians of probably the last 100 years. And because I have said it, it must be true.
      (Hope that makes sense as written in a Covid haze)


      • MarkyMark says:

        Maybe they should quote her more often … Theresa May on immigration … from ‘hard’ line to ‘pink no line’ …

        2012 … “Two and a half years ago, the coalition government was formed, and we made a clear promise to the British public. After thirteen years of uncontrolled mass immigration, this government would reduce and control immigration.” – Theresa May 2012

        2015 … “Because when immigration is too high (no figure given), when the pace of change is too fast, it’s impossible to build a cohesive society.” – Theresa May 2015

        2018 … “Over the years, overall, immigration has been good for the UK. It has brought people with different backgrounds, different outlooks here to the UK,” – Theresa May 2018


  17. tomo says:

    Starmer fawned over this PoS


  18. tomo says:

    While on the topic of PoS – a reminder that this particular one is still spewing …


    • JohnC says:

      I remember looking up the definition of ‘fascism’ on wiki years ago and it meant ‘the suppression of opposing views’.

      Since then it has morphed to this:

      ‘Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement’


  19. Fedup2 says:

    Tomo – I watched the 2 minute 35 second segment . I guess this chap / lady – metro sexual – is a big hitter in her country .

    But relying on ‘claims ‘ by someone who has written a book to sell isn’t truly mature . And to vilify Mr Musk on the basis of this unproven claim is also pretty shallow .

    And who truly has the real picture about what is going on ? For Americans Ukraine is just a game – a sort of ‘payback ‘ for what happened to them in their Vietnam war ( only 55000 dead Americans ) ….

    And Ukraine is a long way away for them . If it turns nasty – with localised nuclear weapons – they’ll be a long way away – we won’t .

    The ‘end game ‘ scenarios must be written for Ukraine – my view is that Russia will claim a win because Ukraine will run out of people and kit in maybe a year or two – whilst Russia – with unlimited income from its’ resources will prevail .
    For the record – I have no time for Russia and see it as near to an evil country / government as can be got …


    • tomo says:


      Like I said, horseface is a total PoS.

      I feel you’re out by a good margin wrt to Ukraine < 12 months. The demise of Biden via a stroke / set of stairs / impeachment will be the end….


      • Fedup2 says:

        Tomo – I don’t think it matters much to Obama how long Biden or the VP live – it is so clear that they are his puppets that people can’t accept it . Obama is destined for his fourth term . The State is now owned by his movement and for some reason – maybe fear of getting 22 years for twitter comments – Americans haven’t fought back .

        As for Ukraine – I’m really not interested – just self interest gets my attention – but I’d like to see graphs of various estimates of loss of troops on the 2 sides – to determine how long things can go on in their current shape …. But I suppose both sides keep those numbers secret ….
        Haven’t seen those propaganda stories about Russians suffering from sanctions much recently ….


        • tomo says:

          Ha … I’m wondering how long Michelle is going to hang out / sulk in Spain?

          – unless that’s conspiracy stuff….

          I agree that Biden is merely for public consumption – the place is being run by bureaucrats and war criminals/crooks in cahoots with an utterly broken Fourth Estate – and our perception of things is inevitably coloured by the output of shit delivered by the likes of Maddow and the baboons in the rest of the media.

          The Russians use territory differently in military strategy/tactics to the “west” it seems to me. I feel Douglas McGregor’s casualty estimates (5:1 upwards) have authenticity based on combat experience – something that cannot be said about most of the commentators in the MSM. I could easily be wrong.


  20. tomo says:

    BBC Kayla Epstein




    Springster job required?


    • Fedup2 says:

      My favourite is that someone took a pop shot and the secret service car with the semi automatic fired it off by accident – which was covered up in the interest of all concerned . But it’s a meaningless distraction from the price of gas …


      • BRISSLES says:

        I was doing my homework when my dad popped his head around the door, clearly shaken he said ‘Kennedy’s been shot’.


    • Fedup2 says:

      1 hour 38 minutes on Kennedy – not so much on the mental state of their current false president . Even at double speed this video is laboured – sorry lost it at 20 minutes …


      • tomo says:

        Yep – obsessives there – but I’ll not take Epstein’s stenography at face value – at all.

        James Robenalt has a hinterland that Hunley and particularly Groubert map out. AUS isn’t without it’s faults and mistakes – but there’s obvious sensitivity in Langley that keeps them massaging the story.

        The Zapruder footage is still a thorn in the side of the “official” account.


    • JohnC says:

      lol – all of these ‘new information’ updates are ‘far-right conspiracy theories’ if it suits the BBC.

      Got to admire the complete hypocrisy of the Left and their ‘It’s only wrong when someone else does it’


  21. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Lawyer Blair has praised Lawyer Starmer for his leadership of Labour

    But, he added a big BUT to this “Labour will not be able to tax and spend their way out of the Tory mess”. Hmmmnn. Not like you did in 1997-2010 Mr Blair? Fiscal probity, especially for the high paid bankers, traders and BTL investors, then increasing spending and taxing the basic pay of ordinary workers and ignoring the warnings until you broke the economy in 2007, Mr Blair?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Having now broken the Today habit – it looks as though the ground is being prepared for the sheer horror that red labour will inherit …
      How they can promise to not raise this or that tax is beyond me – particularly if recession kicks in together with embedded inflation for at least the first 2 years of the red labour residency ….


      • Up2snuff says:

        And the praise of Lawyer Blair for Lawyer Starmer, Fed, will enrage those on the Left of the Labour Party. Blair is a totally toxic totem for nearly everyone in the UK except the BBC.


        • Fedup2 says:

          My assumption that red labour gets a huge majority is based on the idea that the red Labour Party remains ‘as one ‘ but I forget that The Left loves its’ factions and civil wars far beyond any idea of serving ‘the people ‘ .

          Is there to be a breach between the corbynite wing – with the ginger woman fighting the Blair wing ?


  22. tomo says:

    Trump Declares Alex Soros a ‘Spoiled Little Degenerate’ – We ‘Can’t Let Him Win’

    Good for DJT

    Where’s the critics of Soros in the UK?

    The BBC fawn over Soros and “Open Society”


  23. Guest Who says:


    “Can BBC Verify or the @bbcpress verify or deny that singer Roisin Murphy has been cancelled by the BBC after criticising puberty blockers?
    Five hours of Ms Murphy’s songs, interviews and highlights of her concerts were put together for a programme called the 6 Music Artist Collection. This now appears to have been pulled.
    Also reports that old radio programmes she was in have been removed from BBC Sounds. True?
    Meanwhile Ms Murphy is making abject apologies for her apostasy in questioning puberty blockers. She will quickly find out that no matter how grovelling the apology, the extremists she has offended can never be assuaged.”

    Be ironic if the BBC blocked Andrew Neil… for asking questions.


  24. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – praise be to Brussels and the Glorious EU!

    They have overcome the mighty Apple, says TOADY. Yeaher, roightt! © Norfolk Sceptic


    • MarkyMark says:

      We start today with an interesting angle to ongoing global developments. The G20 assembly in India was a ‘quiet’ watershed moment that will go down as another mile-marker on the now inexorable march toward the collapse of Western hegemony.

      India for the first time has reverted to using its ancient name of Bharat, with Modi sitting behind a placard with the new name at the summit:


      “When someone conquers you, the first thing they will do is change your name. This is the technology of dominance, the technology of enslavement.”




  25. MarkyMark says:

    “Not to worry, the latest piece of top down, over bearing, government genius will be whisked through parliament shortly, and will surely reverse the decline of just about everything… this time its sure to work…

    Excuse me if I may express some scepticism that the answer to our salvation includes forcing all residential households to install “smart metres”, devices that the power companies can use to remotely switch off and ration electricty and/or gas consumption, lest they be subject to 12 months of prison with a £15,000 fine.

    Would it not be easier and more beneficial to build more power stations and generate more energy?

    Maybe the other legislative proposals can help… what’s that? Banning the internet and breaking encrypted communications? There seems to be a recurring theme…”



  26. tomo says:

    The evidence the “Democrats” gathered to launch impeachments against Trump.

    Impeachment 1: A phone call

    Impeachment 2: A typical political speech

    Now, let’s go to the evidence for the GOP’s “impeachment inquiry” into Biden.

    Bank records, shell companies, FBI testimony from a “trustworthy” witness, two IRS whistleblowers’ testimony, witness testimony from business partners, mobile texts, laptop documents, White House visitor logs, Air Force 2 travel logs, copying Hunter on official emails, hundreds of Burisma emails, Joe Biden using at least three known pseudonyms on emails, documentation that Hunter Biden’s sole purpose for his $83,000/month board position was to take the heat off of Burisma, the evidence that Biden was responsible for pushing to fire the Ukrainian prosecutor, Joe openly bragging about it being his idea for the ‘quid pro quo’ threat to fire the prosecutor, Joe taking along a Burisma associate on his trip to Ukraine to ask for firing the prosecutor…



  27. StewGreen says:

    9am R4 “We are the only prog that will factcheck Donald Trump and songs from the group called Busted”
    Nope almost all BBC progs have a dig at Trump and worship of some Guardianland culture thing

    Did someone really want to know how many generations there are in a 1000 years, or did someone want to promote a recently released song and forthcoming tour?
    @BBCMoreOrLess #busted

    BBC belong to the Guardian elites
    whose priorities are
    promoting the new Busted album & tour
    & sneering at Trump, by strawmanning a 3 week old interview
    He didn’t actually say the thousands who died building the Panama Canal were dead Americans
    His claim is thousands died yet Carter sold it for $1,
    & now China profits


    • StewGreen says:

      “Here at More Or Less our listeners are always eager for us to cover the pressing issues of the day: Climate Change, the cost of living ..
      Our inbox is full of emails about these topics”

      Climate Change is not a pressing issue
      right now world climate is about the same as for last 100 years
      The sun shines the crops grow, occasionally bad weather damages some.

      “A BBC report quoted a study that said 1 in 4 men get skin cancer in their lifetime. ”
      Yes true, it’s much more common than killer cancers, but is mostly harmless

      “Also London’s Mayor Sadiq Khan said London’s average rent will hit £2,700 a month next year, with the average take home salary £2,131. ”
      Fakenews cos it depends on super cherry picking
      – Sadiq is using a PREDICTION of next years rent, but uses THIS YEARS salary
      – That rent average includes big 5 bed properties .. Two bed flat new contracts are £2,265
      – Also it’s not the average actual rent ..rather it’s the average NEW rent estate agents expect to offer *In future* Most people are locked into much lower long term so average rent is actually £1,500
      – Most people rent as a couple eg people often rent a one bed flat, working out at £900 each

      “We fact check Donald Trump’s recent claim that 35,000 Americans died building the Panama Canal.”

      #1 That’s a straw man
      #2 It was 24th August 3 weeks ago
      He said “we built the Panama Canal, we lost 35,000 people to the mosquito”
      he didn’t say they were all Americans and that includes the 22K who died under the French project
      Furthermore the 35K is not Trump’s point
      which is that the US did a massive project costing thousands of lives and then 80 years later Jimmy Carter sold it for $1
      now Panama gov is close to China


      • StewGreen says:

        The show had 4 items
        #1 The skin cancer one was genuine fact checking *
        #2 The Sadiq rent claim was genuine fact checking , and shows BBC are not 100% pro-Labour
        .. It does show the BBC are very London-centric

        #3 The Busted item seems #PRasNews
        #4 The Trump item was #PRasNews for the cult of hating Trump
        It didn’t tackle Trump’s main point

        * The prog said Google always tells you breast cancer
        actually that’s not true. All Google does is repeat the facts it get from the cancer pages
        and they have a routine line
        “This chart excludes non-melanoma skin cancer”
        So what we seeing is a language thing in the industry, whereby “cancer” means “dangerous cancers


  28. Fedup2 says:

    Stop press
    It seems that the water supply to many parts of londonistan has been cut off . The Russians are being blamed – I blame ULEZ and the Emir …
    One step closer to renationalisation . Thames water has said there is no cause for concern and that untreated sewage will continued to be poured into rivers …


  29. Eddy Booth says:

    Putin-Kim meeting has ended”


    BBC, without providing any evidence whatsoever, keep banging on about a weapons deal between Kim and Putin.

    “In return for selling weapons to Russia, Kim was expected to ask Putin to share advanced military technology, so he can make progress with his own weapons programme”

    Could the trip be more about satalites?

    ‘Asked if Russia will help the North build satellites, Putin said: “This is why we’ve come to Vostochny Cosmodrome” ‘

    Anyway nice to see Kim and Putin acting diplomatically and dignified. Compared to Rishi Sunak trips, where he’s grinning like a clown and looking for hugs and cuddles


  30. JohnC says:

    Ukraine launches missile attack on Crimea, Russia says

    Not interested in BBC reports for any of this. They omit more than they include.

    But it was open for comments as usual and this was a top comment:

    ‘The only way to make Russia see sense is to keep on smacking them round the head until they get the message – GET OUT! Keep up the good work Ukraine.👏’

    Immediately followed by:

    ‘Well boo boo for Russia. Crimea river, as Justin Timberlake once said.
    💥 I’m sorry Russia, you’ve had this coming. Go Ukraine! 💥’

    I used to use comments against articles to learn things the BBC have neglected to tell me. That’s impossible now : these articles are swamped by this kind of comment.

    It’s classic trolling. They want to make sure nobody reads the serious comments. And I’m 100% certain the BBC know it’s going on.


    • Eddy Booth says:

      I seldom bother reading the have your say comments , if so, just the latest few

      “I hope Kim properly washed his butt before offering it to the Moscow rat, and after. Or, maybe not.
      Oh how the mighty have fallen.
      The rat has to go kowtow to the little fat Korean.
      That’s what ‘winning’ looks like in Russia today.
      Vlad the ladyboy, making all Russians look like ladyboys too.
      Are there no real men left in Russia?”


      • JohnC says:

        The DT comments used to be very good to give you the full story – especially if the article was written by a weasel such as William Hague. Now their comments on the war are just like the BBC’s.

        It’s a blatant troll group – where’s Marianna and her ‘war on truth’ for Ukraine when you need her ?.

        Oh, I remember now. Shes been put on a low profile until we forget she’s a liar.


        • JohnC says:

          Heres a top-rated comment from the story the DT have about Ukraine today. Clearly from someone who is not a native English speaker:

          ‘In short:
          – Crimea is gone for the orcs. Everything Ukraine is doing, it can scale up and repeat;
          – the Black Seas is gone for the orcs. Everything Ukraine is doing, it can scale up and repeat;
          – military facilities and facilities supporting military functions anywhere in Russia will burn. Everything Ukraine is doing, it can scale up and repeat;
          – Ukraine will achieve its goals of making continuing supplying the south impossable. Russia may dig in, and continue to kill its own people, but Ukraine has better and better people and better and better equipment while the orcs are still orcs, and their kit is increasingly degraded;
          – the orcs can dream of Trump (Tadcaster’s Orange utan of choice), but short of bombing Kyiv it’s already too late. ‘

          These days, I often wonder what has happened to the world. It is being swamped by the stupid.


  31. StewGreen says:




  32. StewGreen says:

    Guy makes big claims about Peel

    “Good morning to the bosses at @BBC6Music who removed #roisinmurphy from their schedule
    but are happy to profile John Peel who married a 15 year old, got blow jobs from a 13 yr old & who, at age 30, impregnated an underage girl who had to have an abortion. “


  33. StewGreen says:

    Legacy media like AP say stupid things and get super ratioed



  34. StewGreen says:

    Thread : taxpayer funded WEF propaganda at the Houses of Parliament

    One page even shouts ‘Look over there .. DISINFORMATION’


  35. andyjsnape says:

    A bbc review on Trustpilot 🙂

    Why I don’t have a TV license
    I haven’t had a TV licence for over 20 years. Should the BBC ever ask why, my answer would be short and to the point.

    1. The massively overpaid rump of so called top presenters.

    2. The sacrifice of the once renowned reputation for sports coverage on the altar of a most stupid form of equality.
    3. A complete lack of analysis and balance in the reporting of the Ukraine war. The British people are not being given the full facts about how and why the war came about. Never any mention of how American and NATO policy contributed to the conflict. BBC coverage is unashamedly anti- Russian, partial and biased. In a word – propaganda.
    4. An agenda soaked in WOKE. Trans rights, gay rights, illegal immigrant’s rights, terrorists rights, drug abusers rights, ethnic rights, youth rights, children with sexual identity problems rights, and it goes on and on with radio 4 every day. Just a sample and why I don’t pay the BBC licence tax.

    Date of experience: 10 September 2023


  36. tomo says:


  37. Terminal Moraine says:

    New Ken Loach film out in a couple of weeks — see if you can spot the underlying message. It’s subtle.

    Made with the support of the BFI and BBC Film (Guardian give it 4 stars)


  38. StewGreen says:

    Sciency people seemed to make a huge error about the age of the Earth
    13 billion years FFS
    Most say 4.5bn


  39. StewGreen says:

    Green subsidy baron Dale Vince
    says criticizing hi biz should be illegal


    • MarkyMark says:

      Climate change = rishi to send billions!


    • tomo says:

      Dale dancing on coffins for his religion.

      Odious, grasping, sanctimonious shit that he is.


      • Charlie Farley says:

        Tomo ,
        Exactly 💯 true……Vince is just a commodity trader buying Electric and selling on at a profit to the green loons who think they’re saving the Planet …..he’s an arrogant git with £millions !


  40. Terminal Moraine says:

    Remember when Meloni was going to protect Italy’s borders and the media were saying she was a far-right PM?

    “Apocalypse in Lampedusa. Now there are 8000 African invaders who arrived with 160 boats, almost double the number of Italian residents. Now we need to declare a state of emergency and deploy the warships, because this is a war! Words are no longer needed, action must be taken!”



  41. Dickie says:


  42. StewGreen says:

    The job at the anti-slavery charity
    .. is it unpaid ?

    Yep https://twitter.com/MercerCait/status/1701644282828890163
    Double Check and the post appears to be fake
    “Fight against slavery isn’t a real charity. It doesn’t exist. “


  43. Fedup2 says:

    World at one

    I think the BBC has a secret porn addiction – it’s disaster porn . Last week it was getting off on Morocco – which selected 4 countries from which to get help ( is there a brochure ?) today it’s Libya .
    I think the BBC likes the Libya one more because it’s flooding – and flooding can be assigned to green crap . They ve not managed to link earth quakes to green crap – yet – same with volcanoes – which we all know – are caused by global man or woman made warming .

    As for disasters – the BBC doesn’t stick with any disaster for any length of time – 48 hours – maybe – before it can spend hours on mad dogs killing innocent cats dogs or people ….


    • MarkyMark says:

      Fear is often used to control people. Fear is our most powerful emotion and the one that motivates us the most. It is a survival mechanism, that dates back to our caveman days, an instinctual reaction that helps us stay healthy and alive. If we survive a bad experience, we never forget how to avoid it in the future.13 Apr 2020


      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        It’s related to climate porn, I’m sure, and if they possibly can (however, tenuous and unlikely) they try to link the two in some way.

        Earthquakes are more common these days, ‘cos global warming innit.


    • JohnC says:

      Their motivating force is ‘Empathy’. They think that loading a report with it virtue-signals just what wonderful people they are to care about others so much. And of course only empathy-laden articles win their own awards.

      It is of course – like everything the Left do – complete hypocrisy. They don’t actually care one bit about any victims if they can’t virtue-signal about it and use it against the Right.

      They remind me of the Apocalypse Now scene with Robert Duvall where he is giving a dying enemy soldier some water and saying how much he cares for any brave soldier. Then he hears Lance the famous surfer has arrived so he instantly drops him and the canteen then walks off having already forgotten about him.


  44. Guest Who says:

    That ‘reporter’s’ voice sounds awfully familiar.


    “ EXPLOSIVE: Republican @RepScottPerry unloads on reporter who claims Republicans’ impeachment inquiry is about “political revenge.”

    As does the technique of saying things have not been heard about… because the TNI has not reported it.


    • MarkyMark says:

      A Gallery Sells Hunter Bidens. The White House Says It Won’t Know Who’s Buying.
      Hunter Biden’s works are being offered for as much as $500,000 apiece; his art dealer said he would follow ethics guidelines that the Biden administration helped to develop.



      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        Who is buying Hunter’s works of art? Who exactly is paying $0.5 million for anything produced by that drug addled fool? Have you seen any of it? (I have, and it’s awful, like something a ‘talented’ 5 year old might produce).

        I can only assume it’s being purchased by agents working for his dad.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Jeremy Hunt: everyone will be paying more tax after autumn statement 2022

      Everyone. Everyone. Everyone.

      Theresa May, Former UK PM earned £1.86 million in her 2 years since leaving Downing Street, figures show

      Barry Gardiner defends donations worth £500,000 from Chinese agent

      Matt Hancock, who lost the Tory whip after it was announced he would be appearing on the ITV programme, is still being paid as an independent MP and is rumoured to have been paid £400,000 to appear on the I’m a celebrity.

      Boris Johnson earns £315,000 for 30 minute speech and ‘fireside chat’ in United States

      Chuka Umunna Advisory Board of The Progressive Centre UK think tank (also known as Global Progress)

      Jeremy Corbyn Labour party leader accepted up to £20,000 (about $27,000) for appearances on the Iranian state broadcast network Press TV

      Keir Starmer £18,450 from Harper Collins as an advance payment for a book.

      Boris Johnson Accommodation for a private holiday for my partner and me, value £15,000 Destination of visit: St Vincent and the Grenadines

      Jeremy Hunt £10,000 from Citigroup Centre for speaking at an event on 9 March 2021. Hours: 4 hrs. Fee paid direct to charity. (Charity not mentioned)

      Nadhim Zahawi MP promises to repay the part of £5,822.27 expenses claim for second home energy bills that relates to electricity for stables

      MPs to get £2,200 pay rise from April for ‘dramatically increased’ duties last year

      Philip Hammond accepts £2,000 watch from Saudi sheikh, despite ban on donating expensive gifts


    • JohnC says:

      I’m still waiting for just ONE newspaper to have the honesty to point out how the Democrats had SIX committees running just looking for any reason to impeach Trump.

      They are all shameless politicial activists. They have no ‘journalistic ethics’ whatsoever. They disgust me.


  45. Doublethinker says:

    The MSM will describe the impeachment inquiry of Biden as tit for tat for the impeachments and various criminal indictments of President Trump.
    But in truth there was never any substantive evidence against the former President and the indictments are paper thin. However, the evidence in the case against Biden is enormous and and documented. Of course Biden will never be impeached , a super majority in the Senate is required for that. But the exposure of the Biden family crime syndicate to detailed scrutiny will sink his re election campaign , supposing it was real in the first place, and hopefully expose the depth of the collusion between the deep state and the democrats.
    Which in turn ought to convince increasingly large numbers of Americans that there was a Russia Hoax plot against Trump by the deep state, that it is likely that the 2020 election was rigged , that the Capitol insurrection was a deep state operation and that Trump should be given a second term to drain the swamp with the overwhelming support of the American people.
    If this looks likely we will see the deep state reacting violently to protect itself and everyone will see that democracy is dead , votes don’t count and that the US is run by an unelected elite.


  46. andyjsnape says:

    Austrian ex-minister Karin Kneissl moves to Russia with her ponies

    Obviously not liked by the bbc, as Far Right is quoted

    Asked by the BBC about her move to Russia’s second city, she declined to comment – can’t say I blame her

    When reading more and more bbc reports/news, that when the likes of the bbc asks for comments, people either dont reply or decline to comment 🙂


  47. andyjsnape says:

    Trans guidance is needed in schools, parents tell BBC

    News in the bbc world, because a couple of parents mentioned guidance is needed

    I remember the Three Rs, which schools were about. But now this crap


    • MarkyMark says:

      Drag act’s story hour for children disrupted by protesters

      “What is confusing is that these groups are attempting to create a sexual focus here where none exists by drawing attention to sex and sexuality,” he said

      “Reading is a diverse community and our library service seeks to reflect and celebrate that by hosting and supporting a wide range of artists and audience experiences,” it added.


      • G says:


        Maybe they’ll push the muslims too far and the long awaited rebellion / uprising in the UK will start with them.


  48. StewGreen says:

    Britain is a wet country, with vast supplies of fresh water
    This year’s narrative was that Cornwall was certain to have a drought
    thus justifying a year long hosepipe ban
    Yet see how all spring reservoirs were catching up
    Midspring it had caught up
    Then now it’s 63% vs 35% last year
    Hosepipe ban will eventually end on 25th Sept


    The Burrator Reservoir serves Plymouth, they chose to keep it almost 100% full all this year


    • Pat..original says:

      Plymouth and Torbay still have a hosepipe ban until December. Our main reservoir is Roadford, 23 miles away. which never fills up it seems. (Long ago a huge one was planned for Dartmoor at Swincombe but a Lady Sayer, early conservationist, stopped it). This reservoir seems to empty quicker than most due to only one feeder stream! Some blame tourism. Tourists can use as much as they like. If you rent a property for a holiday you can even now go out and wash your car with a hose, locals forbidden. There is a new treatment works on the edge of Dartmoor on the Plymouth side and I am guessing they use water from Burrator, quite nearby as an intermediary lake to supply the city. South West Water have a lot to answer for. I believe the current charges if you have an unmetered supply are near £1,200 a year. No planning for the unexpected is the name of the game but they get away with it.