Start the week 23rd October 2023

This week is likely to witness even more death and suffering in the Middle East . Views may get even stronger . So as moderator – I’m asking for a bit of moderation in advance . .. thoughts and prayers really are with those affected …

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360 Responses to Start the week 23rd October 2023

  1. MarkyMark says:

    The Context
    BBC News Channel, 17 October 2023

    We have reviewed our coverage of the immediate aftermath of an explosion at the Al-Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza City on Tuesday night. During this our correspondent was giving instant analysis on the ground from Jerusalem in what was a confusing and difficult story. The programme repeatedly made it clear that it had yet to verify who was behind the blast, including in the questioning by the presenter. The correspondent said that the Israelis had been contacted and were investigating, adding “It’s hard to see what else this could be really given the size of the explosion other than an Israeli air strike or several air strikes” He then explained that in his experience as a reporter in Gaza that he had never seen explosions of this scale caused by rockets being fired out of the territory. He again stressed that the pictures had yet to be verified. We accept that even in this fast-moving situation it was wrong to speculate in this way, although he did not at any point report that it was an Israeli strike. This doesn’t represent the entirety of the BBC’s output and anyone watching, listening to or reading our coverage can see we have set out both sides’ competing claims about the explosion, clearly showing who is saying them, and what we do or don’t know.



    • Right Angle says:

      This report is by JNS (Jewish News Syndicate):

      The Galilee Medical Center has had enough:

      Citing BBC News’s “biased coverage” of the war against Hamas, staff at the Galilee Medical Center in Nahariya banned a film crew from entering the hospital on Saturday, a hospital spokesperson said.

      “In everything related to the BBC network, too many red lines were crossed, so when they asked to film at our medical center and interview doctors, it was clear that they were looking for manipulations and distortions, so we informed them that we have closed our doors to them until further notice,” he added.

      Hospital spokesperson Gal Zeid told JNS, “I issued the announcement to the media in the hope that other bodies and institutions in the health system, including in the country as a whole, will show solidarity, certainly during the war, and refuse, like us, to cooperate with media outlets and parties that cover the reality in a biased way and refuse to see Hamas as a terrorist organization, which harms all citizens of Israel indiscriminately.”

      The publicly funded British news service is facing harsh criticism for its coverage of the Gaza war.

      President Isaac Herzog and other officials have blasted the BBC for refusing to describe Hamas as “terrorists.”

      “We are dealing with one of the worst terrorist organizations in the world,” Herzog told visiting British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak on Thursday.

      “I know that in modern democracies, like ours and yours, you can’t interfere per se, but since the BBC has a certain linkage and is known as British all over the world, there has to be an outcry for it to be corrected, and that Hamas will be defined as a terrorist organization there as well,” Herzog said. “What else do they need to see to understand that this is an atrocious terror organization?”

      That’s right! No better than Al Jazeera!


  2. vlad says:

    The loathsome VD gets put in her place by an Israeli spokesman after smugly lecturing him on the niceties of war.

    Though he did, perhaps, miss a trick in not pointing out to her that the rules of war refer to regular armies in conflict, not asymmetric warfare with a terrorist group that hides among civilians.

    The feed suddenly went dead, which the lying BBC claimed was due to a ‘technical difficulty’.

    Yeah, sure.


    • harry142857 says:

      The Directors cut, “Quick, cut the link, NOW!!! “.


    • StewGreen says:

      Full video is even better
      ‘We have an Isis State next to us
      The west is next
      If you think this Radical Islam war is not going to hit London
      you are wrong
      We are saving you guys from it, we are protecting the west’

      BBC ‘oh you just said, there is a huge cultural problem that even most normal Palestinians actually support this Isis politics… oh sorry your line just accidentally cut’


      • StewGreen says:



      • Dickie says:

        “Protecting the west”. Like Ukraine is protecting the west 😱😱


        • MarkyMark says:

          Ukraine border – send tanks and money!
          Israel border – send missiles for Iron Dome!
          UK border – ignore!


      • Fedup2 says:

        Is that a Palestinian flag that woman is wearing ?

        ‘That is the BBC way …. You are lacking moral clarity ‘ ….

        He was right about the Israel mistake – appeasement – Israel has to deal with Hamas Gaza …

        That BBC is truly clueless ….

        … looks like the Muslims in the bbc control room pulled the plug as the hole she was digging got deeper – …


  3. JohnC says:

    Pro-Israel protest in London calls for return of hostages

    ‘Security in the square was high with a significant police presence, a BBC reporter at the scene said.’

    Clearly what he DIDN’T say is that security was high to prevent them being attacked by more Muslims.

    Of the many ways the BBC lie to us without actually lying, omission of things they don’t want us to know is by far the greatest.

    The standout thing to me about this has been that after the most horrific terrorist attacks in living memory, our country has seen huge protests from the same group as those who did the attacks – but are protesting against the response from the victims !.

    And they are being given a free ticket while they do it. Particularly from the BBC.

    Keep it up BBC I say : hopefully it will be your undoing.


    • Deborah says:

      JohnC, thanks for pointing out that that the general population may think that the police presence was to prevent Jewish people from causing trouble. The BBC let slip their bias in every report.


    • Kaiser says:

      so jihad doesnt mean jihad

      and I suppose the reference in the title doesnt mean what it really means either


  4. JohnC says:

    This song has chilled me from the first time I heard it.

    I would say the world is closer to it now than it has ever been.

    What I found odd about this video is that the original video (which showed much more about man’s inhumanity to other men as opposed to the obvious ‘activist’ versions we have now) seems to have been purged from the internet completely.


  5. digg says:

    As far as the BBC and Hamas is concerned, the BBC have been swept away by believing that the sentiments of deluded students and London wokerites waving hate-filled placards and now it seems with tacit approval of some in our police force represent the mood of the Country.

    Or more likely they are actively pushing that mantra.

    They could not be more wrong.

    I believe the majority of people just look at the facts and not some radical shite put out by university professors and warped teachers.

    The BBC therefore is out of step with the vast majority of people in this Country and should go their own way on their own finances and not leech cash off the majority of people in this Country who see them as an abhorrent institution with a creed of Marxism that the vast majority of people in this country would never support or vote for.

    They have become part of a creeping sickness in pockets of our society that one day we are going to have to deal with if ever we get a British government with some spunk.


  6. Up2snuff says:

    Well said, Fed, in your Thread header. Much better journalism on this site than the BBC and better Moderation, too, than on the BBC Have Your Says.


  7. Fedup2 says:

    Thanks . I’ve caught the 10pm bbc news – the first one I’ve seen for a while . I detect a presentation change . The bbc seems to be treading more carefully …..
    I know it does (not )care about Israel or Israelis – but out of self preservation – thd mosr important thing for the BBC – it is sort of being ‘responsible ‘.
    This – of course – is false and won’t last long . Clive of Jerusalem is on the case – getting his ‘combat medal ‘ before the next BBC monarchy turns up … Huw ?


    • JohnC says:

      They do this all the time Fed.

      They push the agenda further and further until they sense the backlash from society might damage them then they pull back and behave for a while.

      But in doing so, they learned just how far they can go before it happens and that becomes the new line in the sand.


  8. Sluff says:

    The Palestinian cause is facing an existential threat as an extreme right-wing Israeli government, which includes fascists, continues in power and sees an opportunity to make substantial gains in the pursuit of a Greater Israel, while the international community looks away.
    In the absence of what should be united support for a people under illegal occupation, facing the wrath of the world’s 4th military power, the Palestinians must look to themselves to find a way to end the occupation, attain their rights and see the refugees return.

    The above is from one Kamel Hawwash who appears to be both a company director of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, which apparently organised the demos in London yesterday, AND a professor of engineering at Birmingham University. He’s just resigned from the Labour Party

    It appears ‘academic freedom’ is alive and well, as long as you have the right views. Still, nice to know the opinions of those kept in work by our taxes and fees. PS. Check out the other Professors in this department. Quite a large number of distinctly Middle East sounding names. Someone on this website mentioned a fifth column the other day………

    Worth reminding readers of some of the current and previous patrons of the PSC according to their website.
    Jeremy Corbyn, Ken Loach, Benjamin Zephaniah, Tony Benn, Bob Crow, Bruce Kent, Corin Redgrave.
    Quite a list of Far Left favourites.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Sluff, some excellent journalism from you there not matched, sadly, by the BBC. Couple of surpising names on that list of PSC patrons: Tony Benn and Bruce Kent. Both claimed to be Christians but they supported an organisation that, effectively, had a goal of the complete destruction of Israel. Obviously not well versed in the Old Testament Scriptures and very selective reading of the NT Scriptures, too.


  9. Eddy Booth says:
    Posted at 23:50 22 Oct

    “A first convoy of 20 trucks carrying aid were allowed to enter Gaza on Saturday. Before the conflict, around 500 trucks of aid entered Gaza every day, according to the UN.”
    500 trucks of free stuff a day! Population 2 million.
    Handouts on steroids
    Time Gaza was emptied out.

    “Work to identify the bodies of killed Israelis continues
    “I have never encountered such severe horrors as I have encountered since the incident on 7 October,” he says. “The human soul is unable to cope with the atrocities committed.”

    Israelis are concerned that parts of the world have still not properly understood the brutal reality of what happened on that day, just over two weeks ago.

    Tomorrow, journalists have been invited to a screening of body-cam footage retrieved from killed Hamas gunmen.

    The invitation says the footage includes “documentation of murder and other visually disturbing materials”.
    I wonder if Jeremy Bowen will attend …


    “There’s increasingly less food, water and medicine in Gaza, where groups of Palestinians have been pictured queuing outside bakeries and other places for supplies.”
    Thought there was an electricity shortage… 🙂


    • andyjsnape says:

      Hello Eddy

      The electricity will run out everyday withing 24 hours, apparently, as reported for the last 2 weeks by the deceiving bbc


      • JohnC says:

        One of their tricks : they tell you when something has been cut off but not when it’s been turned back on.

        They prefer to leave it open ended so you think it was never turned back on.


    • Up2snuff says:

      I remember exactly where I was when I first read about Meir Kahane’s proposed remedy for Gaza. Meir Kahane was an American Jew – a Rebbe – but at the time, I think, was living in Israel. He was also a nasty piece of work because a chill ran down my back (just like when I heard Shirley Williams and Harriet Harman speak on BBC R4 in 2009/10) as I read Meir Kahane’s words because they were the language of holocaust from the 1930s.


    • StewGreen says:

      image search shows same bakery also had queue in Covid time

      label : “Gaza City, The Gaza Strip, Palestine. 25th Aug, 2020. Palestinians at bakery shop in Gaza city buying bread, bakery shop at the Gaza strip are witnessing an increase in demand..”

      queue in the 2020 photo was half as long


  10. StewGreen says:

    The Irish PM fake vaccination photo
    Leo Varadkar, why deceive so shoddily?
    How can we trust you on anything?


  11. StewGreen says:

    Why do crazy western lefty gays blindly align with Palestinians ?
    Intersection politics : “we are a victimhood group, you are victimhood group, so we must be on the same side”

    old 2022 video


  12. andyjsnape says:

    Gaza protest: Braverman to quiz police boss over Met response to incidents at pro-Palestinian demo

    But this is the norm, many governments have imported the 3rd world, we are becoming the 3rd world.

    What disgusted me the most was when the savages draped their flags over the Bomber Command memorial in London


  13. StewGreen says:

    last night “Danny Cohen says the BBC has a problem with Jews”

    Why did the BBC want GBnews closed down
    Was it really cos one guy said joked he wouldn’t shag that mad misandrist lefty woman ?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Definately a ground for reporting Dolan to BBCOFCOM – just to be on the safe side ….

      Funny how – when BBC liberals are personslly affected by something – they pop up and criticise – now back to ‘pride ‘…


    • MarkyMark says:

      Mark Steyn agrees! HA HA HA … remember Mark Steyn?


    • Sluff says:

      300,000 British Jews, he says.
      Around 4 million ‘British’ Muslims in the UK the census says, mainly allowed in thorough our useless immigration system and going up daily as the cross channel rubber ferries arrive,

      There are lots of votes in being pro-Palestinian and it’s going up all the time.
      Perhaps Jezza was smarter than we thought.


  14. JohnC says:

    The tone has been lowered, but the BBC are still chipping away:

    ‘Explosions reported near Gaza hospitals
    In the last few hours there have been reports of explosions near several hospitals in Gaza. It’s still unclear if there are any casualties.’

    So I thought I’d have a go at telling a story ‘BBC style’:

    I saw a family of 4 white people (with two extremely cute young children who want to be doctors and help people) very nearly murdered by a lorry travelling at high speed today. ‘The lorry was definitely driven by a member of Hamas’ said my friends uncle.

    The lorry missed them by just a couple of meters. As did several cars following behind it. I was unable to confirm if they too were driven by members of Hamas.


  15. JohnC says:

    Yesterday I linked to a BBC article which I wrote:

    ‘How about this for the greatest understatement of one of the most horrific terrorist attacks in history:

    Israel cut off supplies of fuel, electricity and water to Gaza after Hamas’s military wing broke through the border into Israel on 7 October, killing people and taking more than 200 hostages.’

    Now I see that text has been completely removed from the article.

    This is another trick the BBC use. They write something outrageously in-line with the far-Left agenda in the first version of an article then later on change it into something more acceptable. But of course most people reading it will have read the outrageous version, not the archived version.


  16. vlad says:

    Terrorism’s back in Europe, and wokeism is preventing the authorities tackling it.

    And it’s about to get a whole lot worse,


  17. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch

    A discussion of the word ‘jihad ‘. The excuse – enthusiastically pumped out as expected be meesh – is that in Islam ‘jihad’ can mean various things – including nice things about ‘self development – not just a religious war to kill all Jews …..

    …. When this usual excuse is rolled out – I think of the debate about other such words eg the N word . N can be a colour – so it s ok to say or write – right ? But what wouid plod do if the N word was used in public ? We know the answer to that one don’t we .?

    It seems the outgoing Home Secretary – busily being stabbed in the back ‘ by officials ‘ …- is to meet with senior plod to talk about the legality of the word ‘jihad ‘ – nothing will change – jihad will be okay – woke plod will wear little Palestine badges – particularly the Muslim ones – who will be strictly neutral of course …


    • Fedup2 says:

      Toady watch

      I wonder what proportion of the daily thought for the day is Christian – in a Christian country – today it was some fruit loop going on about Hindu / or Sikh – I filter it out – then there’s the regular Muslim – moaning sadiki- always telling us how peaceful Islam is .. yeah right …


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I honestly think the Home Office needs to be shut down. What does it do that is of any value?


    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      I’m half convinced it’s done deliberately to wind everyone up.

      You read the article and think “How can the BBC get away with this?”, but by the time people have complained, they’ve stealth edited anything contentious out and can honestly claim “You’re wrong, that’s not what is said in the article at all, take another look.”

      It’s a bit like when kids (and childish people) half whisper something facetious to their mates, and if you (or a teacher) call them out about it, they can say “You heard wrong, I actually said….”

      EDIT: No idea why this reply has jumped here? It was a reply to JohnC’s comment above, re: BBC stealth editing.


  18. StewGreen says:

    Listen idiot lefties and BBC, tax is made on INCOME
    not wealth,
    cos most wealth was already taxed when it came in as income.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew I recall the dream – when I was studying tax law – that income could only be taxed once – so no VAT – no taxes on anything already taxed – such as pensions – instead the real tax rate is you save or spend your money ? Up up up…


      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, income should be only taxed once. Trouble is Governments over the years since 1939/45 have been increasingly profligate, not least over the NHS and other State Benefits so that there have been all sorts of additional taxes added. Then there was that wasteful dalliance with the EU for which we are still paying; hence VAT @ 20%!


    • MarkyMark says:

      If only we could force all industry to stop and save the planet – sanctions on Russia made all the wealth head towards Dubai with David Beckham!


  19. MarkyMark says:



  20. MarkyMark says:

    EMOTIONAL dua for Palestine outside Downing Street


    • andyjsnape says:

      Can’t see any women praying, guess this backward society is the way forward for the UK 🙁


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      London has fallen.


      • moggiemoo says:

        It would be bad enough if it was just London but there are many more cities in the UK that are the same. This country will be a caliphate in 20 years. On the bright side it might be a net zero one.


      • MarkyMark says:

        Bradford City of UK Culture – burn those Satanic Verses to end all hate.


  21. AsISeeIt says:

    Changing the rules and those mad men know everything is commercialised these days edition

    In which we ask… modernisation, liberalisation or dumbing down?

    Oh dear, this sounds serious: Lloyd’s climate warning (Financial Times)

    It never rains but it pours

    Flood-hit residents ‘won’t be home for Christmas’ (BBC) – but what about Gaza civilians… Ukrainian soldiers… will they all be home for Christmas?

    Christmas in Ukraine is now officially celebrated on the 25th of December. This became law in July 2023. Previously, Christmas had traditionally been celebrated on the 7th of January as many of Ukraine’s Orthodox churches had historic connections with the Russian Orthodox church (Why Christmas.comThe Most Christmas Information on the Web! – about Christmas, possibly)

    Ukraine moves Christmas date to 25 December in snub to Russia… Ukrainian church has traditionally observed the holiday on 7 January, in line with the Moscow patriarchate (Guardian) – so it must be true. Patriarchate – nice word, must remember that one for scrabble.

    Because traditional religious and cultural celebrations are all about giving a ‘snub’ to your neighbours, apparently.

    Mr AsI gets the feeling this forgotten war is somewhat culturally inspired – rather than just territorial. Invasion and domination of a population can take various forms other than the obvious tanks rolling in.

    But we digressed with that shock news Ukrainian houswives had been robbed of a week’s shopping days to Christmas by this new law signed off by the (whisper it) non-Christian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy (a big score in Scrabble* other spellings are available – although other western policies as an alternative to prolonging the proxy war are not)

    * Can you have a person’s name in Scrabble? The rules of word game Scrabble are being changed for the first time in its history to allow the use of proper nouns, games company Mattel has said. Place names, people’s names and company names or brands will now count. (BBC, 2010) – modernisation, liberalisation or dumbing down, we wonder?

    Apparently you can either win or lose a war, make a truce – or in the modern sense just leave it out of the news and forget about it.

    “The relentless and successful struggle for their identity contributes to … the desire of every Ukrainian to live their own life with their own traditions and holidays,” reads an explanatory note to the bill on the parliament’s website. (Guardian) – careful now… only some nationalisms are to be preserved

    How Guy Fawkes night is falling from favour in Britain (History Debunked, You Tube); Are We Forgetting Guy Fawkes Night In Favour Of Halloween? …many young people don’t know why we celebrate Guy Fawkes Night… In many ways, Bonfire Night has gone the same way as Halloween, with the commercial aspects of both now starting to overwhelm history and tradition (Rose Calendars)

    Digression, digression…

    However, commercialisation does rather segueway us back on track to the Financial Times – and as the black character Philip in Rising Damp so appositely remarked to his landlord played by Leonard Rossiter: “Everything is commercialised these days, Rigsby”

    The London insurance market has warned that the full impact of climate change has not translated into claims data despite annual losses from natural catastrophies topping $100bn (FT) – you’ll have to run that one by me again – despite the number of times the word ‘despite‘ has been deployed in our media headline reports for about the 100 billion’th time since Brexit.

    So Lloyds and the FT are convinced there’s more natural catastrophies due to climate change and they deploy a big cost number – but unfortunately for their alarmist cause they admit they can’t as yet draw a graph to prove there’s an uptick – although they are convinced there must be one?

    Thinking of graphs – what’s happened to our favourite frontpage FT feature Datawatch? At least the Telegraph explains: Matt is away – when our favourite cartoonist is absent. The FT just takes Datawatch awol without a bye or a leave or any explanation or apology – just like the Daily Express and their formerly bold United With The People Of Ukraine or the BBC and their Coronavirus clickable subject tab on their online news site frontpage.

    The fact is that the FT news in brief report signals how Lloyds are going to use climate change as an excuse for insurance premium increases. Despite – the full impact of climate change has not translated into claims data

    Just as climate change is a handy excuse for politicins to raise so-called green taxes.

    Did anyone hereabouts watch that hit retro US tv show Mad Men set in the 1960s New York advertising world?

    I don’t think this next pitch would have got past ace creative director Don Draper…

    Pegasus Airlines take the prime ad spot on the FT frontpage with the slogan: We are 100 young and we are young… one of Europe’s youngest, most advanced and efficient fleets – featuring a fashion model quality uniformed female pilot who can’t be a day over 23

    Now as a passenger one desires one’s aircraft to look brand spanking new – perhaps not experimental – but new. And we like a young pretty face checking tickets or pushing the refreshment trolly – but not so much commanding the cockpit, thanks all the same.

    I’ve a feeling John Hamm playing Don Draper would have shaken his head at that presentation if it were made at his ad firm Sterling Cooper as a serious proposal for an ad campaign.

    In a sequence of the show about airline advertising our Don Draper asserted that male passengers liked to see the hostesses in short skirts. Uncomfortable fact these day which we can’t admit – but true. But not so much the pilot, surely?

    I’m convinced Don would have stood up from his desk, stubbed out his Lucky Strike and poured himself a stiff old-fashioned at his office drinks cabinet. Then dismissed Pete Campbell, Ken Cosgrove, Peggy Olson and the rest of the team from his office – demanding they only come back when they have better copy.


  22. Fedup2 says:

    10am bbc news Israel Palestine ‘ you questions answers ‘ I laughed out loud …

    Where is the balen report
    Why does the BBC hate Israel
    Why does the BBC support Hamas
    When is terrorism not terrorism
    How many wahabi s have infiltrated the bbc ?
    When will the BBC be ended / sold off ?
    Why is the BBC uncritical of Islam by Judeo Christianity is always attacked ?


  23. Fedup2 says:

    Nice to see liberal luvvies starting to sign letters complaining about the BBC – where have you been ?


  24. MarkyMark says:

    Mr Muizzu’s alliance favours closer ties with China, which has invested hundreds of millions of dollars in the Maldives in the form of loans and grants for infrastructure and development projects.



    2018 … China rejects claim it bugged headquarters it built for African Union
    Beijing dismisses report it put bugs in walls and desks and downloaded data from its servers every night for five years

    After the hack was discovered a year ago, the building’s IT system including servers was changed, according to Le Monde. During a sweep for bugs after the discovery, microphones were also found hidden in desks and the walls, the newspaper reported.

    The $200m headquarters was fully funded and built by China and opened to great fanfare in 2012.




  25. Althepalerp says:

    Sadly, when Labour gets in next year, they will abolish the licence fee and fund it out of general taxation.
    All will then be lost.


    • MarkyMark says:

      BBC will be free at point of access like the NHS and UK 650 MP’s expenses!


    • tomo says:

      The BBC’s reward?


    • vlad says:

      @Althepalerp – A terrifying prospect. All restrictions will be off, with a guaranteed income in perpetuity, and a docile Ofcom stuffed with Lefties and ex-BBC employees.


  26. Fedup2 says:

    More evidence of Met plod supporting / appeasing Hamas supporters – this time it was a proposed prayer vigil in Golders Green on the same day as the Muslims / Hamas supporters marched in central london ….

    … met police -‘advised ‘ it be cancelled as there could be ‘trouble ‘. It was cancelled ……

    Plod really has lost the plot – dangerous times ….


  27. MarkyMark says:

    “The BBC’s disinformation and social media correspondent Marianna Spring shares her tips to help you tell what is real and what is fake.”

    “…tell what is real and what is fake”

    “…tell what is real and what is fake”

    “…tell what is real and what is fake”


  28. MarkyMark says:

    Net Zero for UK?
    Net Max Infinity for China!

    “”China shows up with a ‘one-stop shop’ approach: ‘Here are our banks and companies and we do everything from start to finish, and if you sign today we will finish that railway, and it will be done in time just as you campaign for your next election’,” pointed out Mr Gunter.

    “It’s a huge selling point to say that you can do it in one to three years with very little paperwork. Maybe it’ll be a bit dirty and there may be labour rights violations, but your railway will be done.“”


  29. JohnC says:

    Modern slavery helpline calls surge from care staff

    Just glancing through this to marvel at all the ‘omissions’ of inconvenient details in it and came across this:

    ‘Janet, whose name has also been changed, came from Zimbabwe’

    So assuming she is a black woman, why change her name to a dull, English name ?. Why not one a bit different to reinforce her heritage ?. It’s obviously a clumsy attempt to make us think she is no different from white English women.

    But the laughable thing is that the BBC idiots only changed her name for this sentence to tell us they have changed her name. It never appears again !.

    Of course the Getty images to ‘back up’ this modern day slavery of women from Zimbabwe are all whiteys.

    The glaring omission of course is that they don;t go anywhere near telling us who are ‘importing’ these people as slaves. Which means they aren’t white.

    It took 3 of them to write this masterpiece. Here’s one of them:



    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      I cross the road when I see things like this walking down the street.


    • MarkyMark says:

      France24 last night – Africans who have had drought for 5 years get a healthy goat and cut it open to check it’s stomach to check world events.
      All cultures are the same – BBC verified.


    • Sluff says:

      Where’s Lawrence Fox when you need him?


  30. JohnC says:

    The difference in BBC reporting:

    How they report a Palestinian living in a tent near a hospital:

    ‘Now the weather is getting a little cold in the evening, it’s a very miserable situation for those people – but they have no other option, no other place to go.’

    ‘So we decided to stay in the hospital. We are trying to live with a little food and a little water.’

    How they report a hostage being possibly murdered by Hamas with a hammer:

    ‘she received images of her brother with a head wound and what appeared to be someone holding a hammer.’


  31. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Interestingly, I saw comment on social media earlier that stated that Muslims in the UK now outnumber the Welsh population. Can this be true?

    According to the 2021 United Kingdom census, Muslims in England and Wales numbered 3,868,133, or 6.5% of the population.[56]

    The 2021 census showed Wales’ population to be 3,107,500, the highest in its history.[6]

    Sadly it appears true.


  32. vlad says:

    The BBC and the rest of the Libtard establishment insist that the Palestinian conflict is a just fight for their rightful lands – a territorial dispute nothing to do with Islamic bloodlust.

    Strange, then, that in all the demonstrations from the Middle East to the streets of Londonistan, one hears the chants of “Jihad” and “Allahu Akbar”, almost as if it’s a genocidal religious war hellbent on the extermination of Jews, as per a certain religious war manual.


  33. G.W.F. says:


  34. G.W.F. says:

    BBC pulls the plug on Israeli interview. More from Katie


    • Fedup2 says:

      I never realised that Simon case – the cabinet secretary – was due to appear before the covid inquiry – and has thrown a sickie…
      Our sympathies – get well soon – new year honours? Same ward as Huw ? …..

      Katie nails it in short time as usual …. The bit shown where the Muslim Terrorist invites violence via the ‘armies of jihad ‘ – is – presumably under criminal investigation by plod – or not …


  35. G.W.F. says:

    Will the BBC and its fact checkers cover this?

    We are witnessing a Holocaust denial-like phenomenon unfolding in real time.

    So tomorrow, Israel will screen for foreign journalists the raw, unedited footage of Hamas’ atrocities in the October 7 Massacre, as captured by its death squads’ body cams.


    • vlad says:

      BBC trigger-warning: Some viewers may find the truth upsetting, so we will censor the footage and continue to lie, as usual.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Presumably this footage has been shown now ? Did anyone make it publicly available ? Has the BBC – bowen ? Responded yet ? Did they view it ?


  36. tomo says:

    What could possibly go wrong?


  37. gb123 says:

    During the media reports on the Palestinian demonstrations in London, I thought about the anti lockdown demonstrations and other non BBC approved demonstrations. They were reported as being in the hundreds or a few, generally under ten, thousand. The Current demos are 100-150 thousand depending upon which source you read. From memory, I think some of the earlier marches in the same streets were far more than reported. Funny what happens to estimates when you have agenda.


  38. tomo says:



  39. tomo says:


  40. BRISSLES says:

    There will never be a peaceful solution to this conflict. Its too historical, Palestine is aggrieved by the occupation of their lands, and Israel won’t be beaten. Our problem is we don’t get terror threats from the Jewish community.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Brissles – yes – and the demographics of Gaza says 50% under 25 ? – might be wrong ….and as you say – which ‘side ‘ will want to kill me ? ….


      • Rob in Cheshire says:


        Gaza produces nothing of economic value. It is kept going by “aid”, so the people have nothing to do but procreate. And they do.


  41. Doublethinker says:


    Sorry to shout but Allison Pearson, journalist at the Telegraph and regular on GB News, has started a petition ,’ BritishFriends of Israel’ which is open for signature and I urge people to sign.
    The list of the great and the good who have already done so is impressive and this will be a source of push back against the unthinking idiots who support , or at least won’t condemn out of hand , Hamas .
    Equally it will demonstrate to those Jews living in the UK that we support them to the hilt. The time to stand up has come.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Double – I think you’ll find signing such a petition will be a criminal offence soon – if not by the end of the week – if Islamic met plod has anything to do with it …


  42. BRISSLES says:

    Bit of light relief – or not. Watching Bargain Hunt (yes, I know), which started in 2000, I started to wonder how much of our licence fee has gone down the toilet in the years since.

    Each couple are given £300 (courtesy of us) to spend, and rarely are huge amounts of profits made at auction, – losses are more the norm. Thereby over 20 odd years thousands of pounds have been lost, with only the stallholders laughing up their cuff.
    Other cash winning quizzes are on a win or lose basis, like Pointless, – am I being too pedantic ?


  43. andyjsnape says:

    Five scams to watch out for right now

    5) White man

    6) TV Licence


  44. tomo says:

    Thin end of the wedge….


    • Sluff says:

      Just goes to show that discrimination is perfectly OK when the Left invent the examples.


      • tomo says:

        Yep… a recipe that plays on the politics of envy I suspect.

        Let the locals build their own houses via relaxed planning – can’t have that.


  45. andyjsnape says:

    GB News: Ofcom rules breached over Richard Tice interview

    The regulator found that Mr Tice was not “sufficiently challenged” on his views and “the limited alternative views presented were dismissed”.

    How does the likes of the bbc get away when they do “limited alternative views”!

    The establishment really want rid of GB News


    • moggiemoo says:

      Shakespeare may have been correct when he said ‘kill all the lawyers’ but I reckon OFCOM would have been his first choice.


    • Doublethinker says:

      I reckon it’s bit like racism. White folks can be racist but non white folks can’t be. GBN can break Ofcom rules but the BBC can’t as the rules don’t apply to them.
      All this oppression of British opinion comes from the same stable. We are to be converted or destroyed the choice is ours. At least that is what the woke internationalist think but perhaps we are getting closer and closer to pushing back.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I think it helps that most Ofcom officials are ex-BBC employees. Obviously, GB News is anathema to their leftist metropolitan hive mind.


  46. Fedup2 says:

    World at one

    The excuse plod is using for failing to deal with Hamas supporters calling for jihad is that a CPS rep was in the control room and they said it was okay ….

    … an interesting interpretation of the legal process . I thought that was what magistrates and judges were for . What level of knowledge / status did that CPS rep have ? A lawyer working on a Saturday ? ….


    • Sluff says:

      On BBC 1 pm tv news it was stated that the Met had investigated and decided no offence had occurred. The official reason given apparently was that ‘jihad’ has several meanings (and presumably by inference they could not decide on the meaning in question).
      You can’t make it up.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Sluff – but the word jihad was linked to ‘war ‘ and ‘Muslim army’ so the ‘nice ‘ interpretation does not make it .

        In truth plod was frightened of a Muslim crowd … it will be repeated – probably on Remembrance Sunday in x3 weeks time ……
        Yet it seems the British state won’t be prepared ….


        • tomo says:


          I think you’re correct – question is, will the radical bearded ones use the opportunity to *really* have a go?

          There are some people I’ve seen on video that look like they might have a pop a la Tottenham riots and give the Met another martyr?

          This has the possibility to go downhill rapidly if the mob sense weakness.