Weekend 21st October 2023

The Israeli President has suggested that the BBC May no longer be welcome in the country . Certainly it has shown itself too ready to rebroadcast Hamas propaganda – such as the hospital explosion -without verification – on top of its refusal to call terrorists -terrorists although the UK Law , the king , the PM declare Islamic Hamas to be just that . Usually here – we can moan about the woke message – or what is approved in BBC world and what is not – but now – ‘some might say ‘ the world is on the brink . So what the BBC says will have real impact on lives . It seems to set in its’ ways to see that – it has blood on its’ hands .

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321 Responses to Weekend 21st October 2023

  1. Up2snuff says:

    Well, well – top of thread to you and have a good weekend all you Biased Beebers, showing up the failings of the Corporation that we know only too well.

    A passage of Scripture that applies to us and the BBC in the last two weeks: Isaiah Chapter 6,
    1. In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.

    2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.

    3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

    4 And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke.

    5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips ie. the BBC: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.

    6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:

    7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.

    8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

    Read the next few verses https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Isaiah-Chapter-6/ to see why we have a near hopeless task on our hands showing up the BBC’s biases. But try we must, just as Isaiah answered the call.


    • Banania says:

      “with twain he did fly.”
      In a modern version: “with two he flew”. Could you read that in public with a straight face?


      • Up2snuff says:

        Banania, I have read it in church but from a modern translation. In the KJV, it gives me goose bumps – still – after all these years.


  2. Flotsam says:

    I was amused to watch a Partick Christy’s interview with a female green fanatic. She was doing her nut, blaming climate change for the bad weather in Scotland. Christy’s dryly responded, “So, almost in November there’s rain and wind in Scotland?


    • Up2snuff says:

      Flotsam, there can be wind and rain in Scotland in August …… and midges.


      • Doublethinker says:

        No you are wrong! If it’s windy , I mean proper Scottish windy, it blows the midges away !


        • Up2snuff says:

          Double, sure and if it is wet, too. But the sun has been known to shine in Scotland and the wind to drop. Billy Connolly used to reckon he needed a weeks sunshine to go from blue to white and then another week or two in the sun to get a hint of a tan.


  3. Flotsam says:

    On a more serious note regarding BBC’s anti Israel bias. I don’t think It too conspiratorial to suggest that BBC reporters could be acting as Palestinian spies.
    If you were an Israeli army chief would you be happy to have BBC reporters snooping around? Most smartphones have GPS built in, a lot of video cameras too.


    • Scroblene says:

      They did something similar in The Falklands!

      The Army was not best pleased with the TV tax-paid Primark-flak-jacketed squealing hacks, getting in the way and asking stupid questions!


  4. JohnC says:

    BBC reports from inside destroyed Gaza neighbourhood

    Headline on the front page: ‘Why are you bombing us and ruining our lives ?’

    Of course the woman knows why and so do the BBC. Children tied together and burned alive for example.

    Of course it could have been:
    “War against Hamas terrorists after they massacred Israeli civilians is ruining the lives of people in Gaza’

    But not at the BBC.

    The same BBC reporter who lives in Gaza and yet was unable to report from the hospital whether there were more like 500 or 50 bodies.

    This video is absolutely disgraceful because it portrays the people in Gaza as 100% victims. It describes what Israel are doing but does not indicate in any way why they are doing it. It is 100% emotion and 0% news. They don’t even mention the terrorists who have caused it. They make it seem like Israel are just doing it for no reason.

    It’s clear Israel know the areas where Hamas operate and give people warning to evacuate. Then they strike the places they think Hamas use.

    The BBC are openly supporting Hamas and are not being challenged in any way for doing it by the people who should be checking they remain impartial and unbiased. In any report of suffering by the people of Gaza, they are morally obliged to report that the war is due to the terrorists THEY support.

    I must say I am shocked by just how lopsided the far-Left BBC can report this war and get away with it. Israel should deport them all.

    Meanwhile the entire board of OFCOM should be immediately sacked.


    • digg says:

      The BBC need to be brought before the international court of human rights for their implicit support of the evil bastard murdering Hamas cunts. Simple as that.

      Burning children…. Tied together there is little worse than that surely? It needs outside troops to come in and round up these cunts for the rope.


    • moggiemoo says:

      The entire board of OFCOM ought to be in jail.


    • Beebophobic says:

      I cancelled my TV licence this week because of the Beeb’s anti-Israel bias. I have not had a TV for years now but had had to buy a licence in order to watch the 6 Nations rugby live online. I cancelled on the TV licence website, then cancelled my DD. Information on here was helpful to me. Apparently over 30,000 people a week are now cancelling their telly tax. The Beeb’s refusal to call Hamas a terrorist organisation, when that is enshrined in our law, and the PM and King have also said so, is the final straw that broke the camel’s back for me. Enough is enough with these Guardian-reading bien-pensant hypocrites who dare to think they speak for the nation. They haven’t done that for years.


  5. Dickie says:

    Two wrongs do not make a right.



    • JohnC says:

      The problem I have with all of those activists who talk about ‘Israeli massacres’ is that they NEVER mention the context that the Israeli operations are in response to something Hamas did – usually firing rockets aimed at Israeli civilians in Israel.

      What are they supposed to do ? – say ‘Well it’s wrong of them to aim rockets at our city but we won’t do anything about it because that would be wrong as well’ ?.

      No rockets = no Israeli military action.

      The root of this is that this is not about ‘people being oppressed by Israel’ as we are constantly being told by the the BBC and other Leftist news sources. It’s about religious hatred. Iran are not oppressed – but they want everyone in Israel dead as well. Hamas will attack Israel no matter what. I wonder if those activists even realise that.

      This idea that Israel should not try to remove these terrorists to protect it’s own people is absolute nonsense.

      The real tragedy here is that it won’t work because the people of Gaza will let Hamas right back in as soon as Israel pull out because THEY support what they are doing. Have you heard one single Muslim in all the BBC videos condemn what Hamas did ?. I haven’t.

      This operation will destroy the infrastructure/tunnels etc in Gaza Hamas use to launch their rockets. Israel will get some temporary relief while they build it back up again then it will all start over.


    • Doublethinker says:

      The problem with adopting the ‘two wrongs don’t make a right ‘ approach is that if the aggressor doesn’t share that moral position , they just keep on and on committing worse and worse crimes and outrages because there is never any push back or sanction against them.
      In many cultures turning the other cheek is regarded as weakness not strength. Our tolerance is becoming our Achilles heel I’m afraid when we are dealing with Islamic terror . We must crack down on any support for Hamas even if disguised as being pro Palestine.


  6. Nibor says:

    Aesop’s fable .

    A farmer finds a snake in the snow and takes pity on it .
    He puts it in his coat next to his bosom to warm it up .
    When warm the snake bites him and poisons him so he is to die .
    “ Why did you do that “ asks the shocked farmer “ when I have warmed you and saved your life “ ?
    “ Did you not know that is my nature ? “ replies the snake “ and that there is enmity between us ?” .

    22 innocents murdered In Manchester by an asylum seeker picked up by the Royal Navy .


  7. digg says:

    The evil bastards involved in Israel murders have released some USA citizens as a token..


    Does this mean they will escape responsibility for the murder of hundreds of more innocent people?

    They need to be rounded up and eliminated and I am right behind Israel if they go for it and kill every fucking one of them.


  8. digg says:

    If the BBC cannot understand why the Israeli army just wants to go into Gaza and eliminate the utter bastards who slaughtered innocent Israelis last week then they are missing something in their understanding of basic humanity.

    This does not surprise me however as the BBC are the pits when it comes to balance.


  9. Guest Who says:

    Rather bizarre watching the mostly affluent white glitterati of politics and media get excited by changes in party fortunes, when whoever wins and is allowed to follow their paths will be dealing with the consequences of their policies, as unleashed and unrestrained ferals might be unconcerned with degrees of selective compassion when on the rampage over their gated community walls.


  10. Fedup2 says:

    From the DT

    The BBC has stopped describing Hamas as “militants” by default, after complaints by Jewish leaders about the broadcaster’s coverage.

    The president of Israel is among those who have criticised the corporation for refusing to refer to Hamas killers as “terrorists”, and instead using terms that were less “emotive” like “gunmen” and “militants”.

    The broadcaster revealed on Friday that BBC journalists would no longer use militants as the “default” term for Hamas, and will describe them as a group “proscribed as a terror organisation by the UK Government and others”.

    It is understood that the term “militant” may still be used, but not as the default choice.

    Tim Davie, the BBC’s director-general, is set to appear before the 1922 Committee of backbench Tory MPs on Wednesday, amid concerns about Left-wing bias at the broadcaster.

    He is expected to be grilled by MPs over coverage of the attacks on Israel, including a broadcast speculating about Israeli involvement in a recent explosion at a Gaza hospital.

    On Friday, Mr Davie met the Board of Deputies of British Jews, who welcomed the BBC’s decision to change its approach to describing Hamas.

    Marie van der Zyl, the board’s president, said of the meeting: “We emphasised our outrage at the refusal of the BBC to describe Hamas’ barbaric actions as terrorism and the damaging, false report of the rocket which killed innocent civilians.”

    Mr Davie said that the BBC would be “committed to continuing dialogue through this period”.

    While the Board of Deputies is understood to consider the BBC’s decision as “progress”, it will continue to push for the broadcaster to brand Hamas as “terrorists”, and to characterise their massacres of Israeli civilians as “terror attacks”.

    Since the beginning of the conflict, Jewish groups have accused the corporation of showing “double standards” by refusing to describe Hamas attacks as “terrorist” in nature, while BBC journalists have branded numerous other atrocities “terror attacks” in the past.

    This week, Isaac Herzog, the Israeli president, joined the widespread criticism of the broadcaster, condemning it for its “atrocious” policy of referring to Hamas as “militants”.

    Criticism has been compounded by the corporation’s reporting of a blast at the Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza, during which a BBC journalist speculated that Israel was likely behind the explosion.

    This contentious broadcast is set to be the main topic of discussion during Mr Davie’s planned meeting with the 1922 Committee.

    One Tory MP who is expected to attend told The Telegraph: “I have no doubt we’ll be challenging him on why the BBC refuses to call terrorists terrorists.”

    The 1922 Committee tends to meet every Wednesday evening when Parliament is sitting and usually has a different cabinet minister giving a short speech and then answering questions.

    It is not the first time that an outside speaker has appeared, with past attendees including Bill Gates, the founder of Microsoft, and Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England.

    Mr Davie has already faced pressure from the Government to look again at its use of language in relation to the Israel-Hamas conflict.

    Lucy Frazer, the culture minister, met the director-general on October 9 to discuss whether the BBC’s editorial guidelines could be altered.

    The guidelines, enshrined in 2018, have become a sticking point for the broadcaster, as they insist that journalists avoid using the words “terrorist” or “terrorism” without attribution as they could convey “value judgments”.

    BBC staff are instead told to “use words which specifically describe the perpetrator such as ‘bomber’, ‘attacker’, ‘gunman’, ‘kidnapper’, ‘insurgent’, and ‘militant’”.

    A BBC Spokesperson said: “The BBC regularly meets a range of groups and today met the Board of Deputies of British Jews. During the meeting we confirmed that we will continue to refer to Hamas as a proscribed terror organisation by the UK Government and others.

    “What the BBC does not do is use the word terrorist without attributing it, nor do we ban words. We also confirmed that for some days we had not been using ‘militant’ as a default description for Hamas, as we have been finding this a less accurate description for our audiences as the situation evolves.”ENDS

    Forgive me – but I value and trust the BBC – it tells the truth . It even verifies it . So upto now I didn’t think Hamas was a terrorist organisation – just militants or fighters – which is what militants and fighters do to babies – pregnant women – children – their mums and dads .

    But now what ? Are they terrorists now ? Has the BBC been lying to me in the last 14 days ?

    I will always think of Hamas as freedom fighters because the bbc has been telling me they are fighters – heroes – for the last 2 weeks .. nothing will change that for me …

    …. Perhaps the BBC – and the people who work for it – will get what they deserve … ?


    • Jeff says:

      The BBC are clearly uncomfortable with describing Hamas as terrorists…though I don’t know of any more accurate word for baby killers, do you?

      This scum aren’t soldiers. They’re not fighters, they’re mass murderers.

      I’m also struggling with the term I use to describe the BBC. They want to be known as our independent and impartial state broadcaster.

      No, I’m afraid that doesn’t come close.

      Propagandist, left-wing parasites works for me…


    • JohnC says:

      The most ridiculous thing at the moment is that the ‘BBC reporters’ telling us what Israel are doing in Gaza are Muslims who actually LIVE in Gaza and are part of the same community.

      On what planet are we supposed to believe that what they choose to tell us will be ‘unbiased and impartial’ ?.

      One already called the Hamas rocket a ‘massacre’ – and I’ve seen the BBC push his video saying it to the top of the ‘Live feed’ at least 3 times.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, I hope the MPs hand the D-G his P45 and a letter explaining loss of his pension due to ‘under-performance of his duties’.


  11. tomo says:

    Fauci is still not in prison


    • Beebophobic says:

      If Robert Kennedy becomes the next President in 2024, Fauci could end up behind bars. He’s a weasel-faced little so-and-so isn’t he ?
      Fauci that is, not Kennedy !


  12. JohnC says:

    Palestinians under attack as settler violence surges in the West Bank

    This kind of article is exactly what I mean when I talk about the extreme bias of the far-Left BBC in Gaza.

    This is not a ‘report’, it’s a story written to provoke as much sympathy and empathy for the chosen victims as it possibly can. There are only a few actual ‘facts’ in it – but it sprawls out into a 2,300 word essay full of personal details and emotion so we think of them as the poor, innocent victims.

    ‘Abed Wadi on his rooftop in Qusra. “We wanted hope for our children, but it has gone,” he said.’

    ‘”They told me that my son was injured but there was no way for me to see him at that moment,” he recalled, his eyes shiny with tears.’

    It’s relentless. According to this article, the Palestinians are peaceful, good people and the Israelis are murdering thugs. Everything they say is reported as truth without caveat. All I can think is that recent events tell me the real story is likely to be somewhat different.

    If it were about Muslims attacking Jewish settlers or civilians on the streets of Israel , it would be a few paragraphs at most. For example from July:

    Tel Aviv: Seven injured in Palestinian car-ramming and stabbing attack

    497 words.

    The first line of each article sums up the difference perfectly. For the terrorist attack on Jewish streets which aimed to murder as many as possible, we get basic reporting:

    ‘A Palestinian man has injured at least seven people in a car-ramming and stabbing attack in the Israeli city of Tel Aviv, Israeli police say.’

    But the Muslims settler report starts like this:

    ‘Abed Wadi was getting dressed for the funeral when the message arrived.’

    And that difference in tone is consistent throughout both articles.

    One thing you can be sure of : if the Palestinian man who did the stabbings in Israel was the one with the gun, HIS victims would not have got one shot in the stomach. They would be dead.

    That sums up how totally lop-sided this coverage by the BBC is. Neither side is doing the good thing – but one side is much, much worse than the other. And it’s the side the far-Left BBC support.

    As usual of course the video is carefully edited to make sure we only see the consequences and not whatever happened before it. We have no context of why that man was confronting the other man who had the gun. The Left do this all the time and it’s dishonest. When I see it I now assume they are hiding the truth.


  13. popeye says:

    I wrote this in the middle of the night, being unable to sleep.

    I have seen the video of the Hamas attack, much of it taken by Hamas itself. I will not put it up on here, it is far too horrific. There was much I could not watch. These are animals, filthy cruel animals.

    Any sympathy I may have had for the Palestinians has gone; any understanding of the feelings of supporters for Hamas has gone; any respect I may have had for Arabs has gone; my loathing for liberals and the BBC has, however, increased exponentially.

    What about the poor innocent Palestinians? What, like the crowds cheering as the body of a dead, tortured, naked girl was paraded down the high street? Fuck them!

    Supporters of the Palestinians should be forced to watch this video and justify it.

    Supporters of the thousands of men crossing the channel, similar to these animals, should be forced to watch this video. There are ten times the number of the terrorists in this video entering the country illegally every year and being put up in hotels.

    Britain, be afraid – very afraid – and demand action now.


    • JohnC says:

      People should be encouraged to watch them popeye because that’s the only way they can really get what is actually going on into proper context.

      And then they would realise just how obscene the publication of that article I refer to 2-posts above really is.


      • popeye says:

        I wouldn’t want to put you off your breakfast but that video included a scene where a “militant” (copyright BBC) decapitated an Israeli with a garden hoe, taking many attempts to do it. I couldn’t watch that!


        • Fedup2 says:

          Pop eye – best not to watch that stuff – not good for the mind . I do wonder if the aim of the Hamas freedom fighters is / was to cause so much horror – by recording it and publishing it – to cause an almighty conflagration – multi national – world war to end things ….
          After 9/11 I’m sure the US looked to nuke a suitable target and I wonder if Israel thought about dropping one on Gaza but then realised it just couldn’t . Horror begets horror .
          Personally if I was Israel – I’d do my best to ‘evacuate ‘ the innocents in Gaza and then flatten it into a zone to protect the Israeli border – whether that’s practical – don’t know – but seems to be in the plan …..

          I also wondered how many Hamas freedom fighters ( bbc speak ) were killed captured identified – ….


          • Eddy Booth says:

            “Pop eye – best not to watch that stuff – not good for the mind .”

            “if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” … Nietzsche.


        • JohnC says:

          Seen similar things by ISIS.

          Were they all screaming ‘Allah Akbar’ while they did it ?.

          I sat next to a clearly ‘extreme’ Muslim on a flight to Dubai once. I used the opportunity to talk with him and try to understand him.

          He was not filled with hate as such – he just believed he was following Gods will. If the Koran says someone should die, I could tell he would do it without hesitation or conscience because it was what God wanted.

          I would be reading something and he would tap me on the shoulder, lean over and say something along the lines of how God is great and would punish those who deserve it – with a glazed look in his eyes and an expression of pure happiness on his face at the knowledge.

          He looked like he had just come out of a cave and in Dubai, he walked over to a group of male airport staff and started talking to them like they were old friends.

          It was all quite bizarre to me – but an opportunity which we would never normally get. The point I learned is that they are not simple evil hypocrites : they genuinely believe God wants them to do it.

          The evil hypocrites are those who back them for agenda reasons – such as the BBC.


          • tomo says:

            In decades around the Middle East and other muslim areas off the beaten track and certainly not on any tourist itinerary that’s an experience I’ve had many, many times.

            I’ve also been on the receiving end of iirc quite bloodcurdling threats (death to infidels etcetera) from a bonkers urban imam in Benghazi scampering out from his tatty little mosque and raving on at myself and two colleague out for a post work evening stroll. Benghazi was mostly very pleasant with polite, friendly people who seemed genuinely pleased to meet foreigners but the thought that this git was spewing poison every Friday (and probably raving on at salat 5 times a day too) kindof spoiled the experience.


            • Fedup2 says:

              Tomo …. So did he get the Uk passport or not!😎?


              • tomo says:


                likely got a house and a stipend. I hope where he lives is book-ended with Guardian readers.

                I have to add that I’ve seen a number of seriously cranky Christians too!


                • Fedup2 says:

                  Tomo – being an old sweat RC the ‘converts’ always seemed ‘the worst ‘ which probably makes then the ‘best ‘…

                  I can’t see any God – any God – being too impressed with that those freedom fighters did in his name … all damned to burn …


    • Scroblene says:


      No wonder you couldn’t sleep, Popeye!

      That’s a passionate and understandable comment, and should be framed!


    • Beebophobic says:

      What Hamas did was barbaric and evil, raping, torturing, kidnapping and murdering unarmed civilians including babies and children and elderly people too. I am not surprised to see all the Muslims out in force with their Palestinian flags, but when I see the brainwashed social justice warriors marching along with them, then I really do fear for our future. Israel has the right to exist and the right to defend itself. Without the Hamas savagery, there would no bombing of Gaza now. I hope the IDF kill every last Hamas terrorist.


  14. AsISeeIt says:

    Tories are the story and linking deaths to political policy options edition

    Two storm deaths in Scotland as new red warning issued (BBC)

    Deaths rise to three as flooding hits UK (BBC)

    Come on BBC, we can do better than this. You’re only counting people that died of the storm – but what about people who died with the storm, so to speak?

    Chap suffers a coronary during the storm, for instance – surely that counts as a storm death and ought to be logged with the storm death numbers? I’m sure some NHS medics could be persuaded of the seriousness of all this climate change weather weirding and might therefore be willing to write storm in as a factor on death certificates.

    I jest, in part, of course.

    As that great American popular poet Robert Zimmerman (Bob Dylan) once said: The answer, my friend, is blowin’ in the wind, The answer is blowin’ in the wind

    And then there’s the BBC’s friendly echo: Storm Babet Three dead as Scotland braced for more floods (Guardian)

    The Guardian and BBC nexus would have us believe the present political story in this country is all about Labour: Labour ‘redrawing the political map’: Starmer (Guardian); By-elections: Is it back to the 1990s for Keir Starmer’s Labour? (By Chris Mason, Political editor, BBC News – just asking)

    When in reality, quite obviously, you don’t have to have an honours degree in psephology to discern the political story is about Tory collapse due to voter disgust – not enthusiasm for Labour

    The populist Labour-supporting Mirror knows better than to put the piggy-eyed persoanlity by-pass stuffed shirt that is Starmer on their frontpage. Instead they’re banging on about Gaza while Labour takes cover and lies low: Deadly Wait – referes jointly to: Tanks ready for invasion… and; Stricken Palestinians still wait for aid stuck at border

    The left-leaning ‘i’ Weekend correctly senses Labour are uninteresting whereas Tories are the real story: Tory MPs turn on Sunak – as they lose hope of avoiding historic defeat

    While the BBC – like a dog with a bone – just won’t let it go: Moody’s boosts view of UK after mini-Budget chaos… “policy predictability has been restored” following last year’s mini-Budget… Moody’s also noted the UK’s “more conciliatory” approach to EU trade (Ben King Business reporter, BBC News)

    Just think about that – the looming Starmer premiership represents “policy predictability”

    The Rishi lackey loyalist Daily Express, having dropped pretentions to being: United With The People Of Ukraine (presumably due to the Rasputitsa – how funny that as our rainy season leads to casualties, their’s apparently damps down the fighting and saves lives) now sets out Sunak’s new PR theme for us: Angry Tories say only true blue values can woo back votes

    And what might that entail?

    Tories plot stamp duty cut to win over voters – suggests the Starmer-curious Times with more than a hint of a scoff

    I’m oddly reminded of that old Rowan Atkinson gag from Not The Nine O’Clock News circa 1982 when he spoofed rapturous applause for a spokesman at the Tory Conference declaring: “Hello party workers… I… am… a golfer!”

    And in similar true blue vein: PM considers tax cuts for high earners in election bid (Telegraph)

    Meanwhile the top headline at the Telegraph reads: Terror attack in UK linked to Gaza – linking deaths to political policy options – that’s about where we came in with this edition as our BBC was referencing storm deaths – clearly on behalf of the climate change agenda

    Asylum seeker suspect was arrested as fears grow over safety at weekend protests (Telegraph) – fears leading to stopping illegals or slowing the mass production of visas perhaps – immigration net zero as an aspiration (as the manifestos like to put it) ? One doubts it.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I wonder the circumstances of people drowning in storms – is it the usual ‘taking the dog for a walk ? Or ‘go take a look at a river out of control ?( being natural ) or something else . There were plenty of warnings – but probably too many – see BBC weather warnings ( every day ) with tamas ….. ( big future )…


      • Flotsam says:

        We’ve had the usual quota of idiots driving into floods near our rural village and getting stuck. It’s climate change, global warming is heating up their brains.


  15. Fedup2 says:

    I looked at the DT and it seems there has been an Islamic terrorist attack in the UK but there is an injunction to prevent it being reported ….? Surely I must be wrong ? But if true it’s a sign of what is to come here – denial of reality for ‘community cohesion ‘ – ending with the traditional dirty bomb and mushroom cloud – which also must now be the aim of Islamic Hamas in Israel to ‘better ‘ their militant attack ( not terrorism ) ..


    • Doublethinker says:

      Fed Up,
      If you are correct the UK has passed a milestone on the road to Islamic hell.
      But are we surprised? No sadly not. We have had a collective decision by the MSM to avoid or to minimise the reporting of Islamic violence and the consequent erosion of our way of life and our freedoms for many years. Ofcom has made it difficult for any ‘renegade’ outlet to tell the truth or to warn us about the take over of our country by Islam.
      Only last week GB News had a piece about how importing more migrants raised the prospects of terror attacks in the UK. On the panel was an ex Labour spokesperson or advisor and they came up that most ludicrous line , she said that the anti terror police were much more concerned about the threat from far right terrorists than from Islamic terror. Sadly the host didn’t press her on this .
      It is a line that we hear frequently but how many terror attacks have their been from ‘the far right’ in the UK ? A couple , and one of those was probably a genuine case of mental issues. How many by Muslims , a lot . The so called far right attacks get about 100 times the air time that the Muslims one do. And after every Muslim attack we gat the ‘fear of a right wing back lash’ spouted from every side of radio and TV .
      I can only hope that if there is a genuine far reaching change in the US over the liberals attitude towards Islamists as a result of the Hamas atrocities it reaches the UK as quickly as possible .
      But if the liberal love in with Islam survived 9/11 it might well survive the latest round of Islamic terror. I think it’s no good waiting for the liberals to come to their senses and reform themselves and the institutions that they have captured , they are too far gone for that .
      It is up to ordinary people to throw off the yoke of modern liberalism , take back the institutions , force the MSM to be honest , force politicians to act on the wishes of their voters. But do ordinary folks , burdened as they are with their day to day concerns , pacified by football and pop culture , bombarded 24/7 by propaganda , frightened by Global warming, Covid etc , have the realisation, energy and will to take part in a struggle of that magnitude ? I fear not.


      • Fedup2 says:

        In the current context there will be no change . Islam in the UK will rapidly increase in numbers and strength across every part of life – Islam is both a religion and a way of life – any attempt to counter it is ‘far right ‘ and the current state – subverted by liberals / Islam ( wtf ?) will repress it – so it will grow and the non Muslims will look away and their kids will bear the consequences –
        This isn’t just a UK problem – much have Europe has soiled itself too .

        I write this believing that things in the short term are about to get worse and wonder how many populations will be unaffected / alive afterward ….

        With a bit of luck I will be wrong . Pray .


  16. JohnC says:

    Mother and daughter US hostages released by Hamas

    How lovely BBC. Perhaps Hamas are not so bad after all.

    Oh – but what about this one ?. You didn’t even report it.

    Video shows apparent death of Israeli hostages in Hamas custody

    Cold blooded murder of civilians.

    What an excellent opportunity for ‘BBC Verify’ !!. They can confirm or otherwise if this video is real or fake in their first useful real-world situation which actually has some meaningful result.

    Oh, I forgot. They don’t do anything at all where the conclusion might be against the agenda.

    I’m starting to wonder why nobody is preventing the BBC from showing this outrageous bias. It’s like they are saying ‘f*ck you, we’ll do what we want’.

    Those far-Left idiots in OFCOM whose job it is to make sure the BBC stick to their charter should all be sacked with immediate effect. They are not fit for purpose.


  17. Jeff says:

    Something you may have missed in the media, because it’s hardly been covered, sadly even GB News have tried their best to avoid it; is Andrew Bridgen’s speech about excess death, in Parliament yesterday.

    As usual the house was almost empty. If they were discussing EV cars, Islamophobia or special bogs for trannies, the poxy place would be crammed to the rafters with these worthless, virtue signalling parasites.

    Something has gone very seriously wrong with the health of this nation in the last couple of years. AB makes a strong case implicating the vaccine. I don’t know what the answer is, but I do know we need to talk about it.

    What we saw yesterday was a disgrace and the coverage has been pitiful. The MSM really don’t want to look at this. Tumbleweed…

    The BBC news site give us info’ about floods, recycling bins for England, Starmer’s election victory (natch) a meteor shower, the death of an actress and (not unexpectedly) that a black teenager with a water pistol was surrounded by armed police who suspected it was a real gun. I’m waiting for a full-scale Panorama investigation into this one…

    But tens of thousands of excess deaths; zilch…


    • Beebophobic says:

      Andrew Bridgen is doing a great job highlighting the rise in excess deaths in the UK since the vaccine roll-out. Big increases in sudden deaths. Big increases in deaths from heart attack, cardiac arrest, strokes, brain bleeds, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, rare and rapid spreading cancers. It cannot all be put down to NHS backlogs and delays in treatment. The wife of a relative of mine has been very ill immediately following her second vaccine, with chest pain, swollen legs, dizziness, fatigue, loss of short term memory in a previously fit lady in her early 70s. A doctor has told them that it is all caused by the vaccine. I had a bad reaction to my second vaccine too, funny dark red spots all over my toes, sides of feet, heels and soles. I did not connect the two things at that point but there can be no other cause for it, the red marks, some of which were quite big and painful if pressed, did clear up some months later. We know that the AZ vaccine was very dangerous and got pulled from use quickly, there are at least 93 known deaths from it, probably many more. In Norway, Finland and Denmark, they dealt with Covid well and had no real increase in excess deaths during the pandemic. They rolled out vaccines in spring 2021 and the graphs for excess deaths for each country steadily rose from then on, the graphs look like carbon copies of each other. Some of those brave men and women talking about this on You Tube include John Campbell (former NHS nurse); Dr Vibeke Manniche (Danish medical statistics expert); Senator Gerrard Rennick in Australia; Andrew Bridgen MP; Dr Mobeen Syed in America; Dr Sunil Dhand in America; Professor Angus Dalgleish (top UK oncologist in London); Dr Peter McCullough (American cardiologist); and more besides. I have read up on this and watched as much as I can on You Tube and have come to the conclusion that mRNA vaccines are not safe. We also need to be aware of the imminent changes to the WHO International Health Regulations of 2005. The WHO are planning to bring in draconian new health policies in which they could impose treatments on all countries, each nation has to opt out of this following a parliamentary debate, otherwise it will be assumed that the nation wishes to comply. There’s a gov.uk petition to get this debated in parliament, needs 100,000 signatures, not sure what number they have reached at the moment. We live in dark times indeed and we all have to resist it if we can.


  18. Doublethinker says:

    I watched one of John Anderson Conversations with Victor Davis Hanson yesterday on the topic of how the USA is responding to the Hamas atrocity in Israel.
    VDH , whom I have a lot of respect for, thinks he detects a sea change amongst many on the left and amongst middle America. They have been horrified by the atrocity and he thinks that ‘the scales have finally fallen from their eyes’ about Hamas, Palestine and Islamists in general. In his view Islam will no longer get a free ride in America , no longer will its excesses be tolerated at home or abroad. Even CNN, the New York Times etc are saying Israel has every right to root out Hamas by whatever means possible.
    He hopes that this also signals a general ‘uprising’ of middle America against Wokism and the lefts take over of US institutions, the rolling back of the long March through the institutions.

    Let us hope that he not being overly optimistic . But it’s an encouraging piece .


    • Deborah says:

      But here in the uk? 2000 luvvies signed some sort of letter accusing the uk government of war crimes for supporting Israel? I know Maxine Peake played a lawyer which I presume makes her think she understands International Law, but she also played a dinner lady. I cannot see any change yet in the Far Left and their antisemitism.


      • Doublethinker says:

        I know Deborah. As I say above if in the US the liberal love in with Islam survived 9/11 it might survive this Hamas atrocity. As to the luvvies, footballers , cricketers , BBC , rent a mob protesters , they are probably too stupid to understand what they are doing.


    • Banania says:

      Indeed, a must-watch. https://youtu.be/FG0cgViEcc8


  19. Fedup2 says:

    Our Justin has a chat with a yank professor who has a book out about ‘determinism ‘ – suggesting we are what we are and there ain’t much we can do about it .

    The usual liberal sell out and very BBC – providing to no right no wrong narrative – every one else is to blame – no one can be a terrorist ( apart the ‘right’ ) – which is defined as anyone the BBC doesn’t like .

    But the piece unintended humour – it just reminded me that comrade Robinson should be pitied not condemned for having been born the very worst word in the language .


  20. JohnC says:

    Javier Milei: Trump admirer leads race for Argentina presidency

    ‘Far-right economist Javier Milei, who admires US ex-president Donald Trump, has received the highest share of votes in Argentina’s primary election.’

    I think we can take it the BBC do not approve. The labels are flying all over the place. Absolutely standard Leftists tactics.


    • Eddy Booth says:

      I haven’t read anything about it, but I’m guessing somehow he won’t won the actual election, or won’t have enough seats to rule so a coalition of the left ….


    • pugnazious says:

      If he invades the Falklands, renames it the Malvinas and decolonises the place the BBC will love him like it loves the IRA.


  21. Nico says:

    Terrorist murder of Terrence Carner..

    Now reported this brutal murder was conducted in revenge for all the deaths in Gaza..

    You have to wonder if Hamas mouthpiece BBC have spent a single second discussing this matter, or wondering if their demonstrably inaccurate reporting might inspire further atrocity. Flattened hospitals, thousands dead- proven lies reported as fact.


  22. Sluff says:

    Impartiality BBC/PBC style.
    On the news yesterday Clive Marie introduced two reports.

    The first was from inside Gaza conducted by an obviously non-English, presumed BBC Arabic, reporter, showing the bombed buildings, distraught population etc.

    And for balance the second report was….. also from inside Gaza conducted by an obviously non-English, presumed BBC Arabic, reporter, showing the bombed buildings, distraught population etc.

    The Palestinian Broadcasting Corporation in full flow.
    They don’t even pretend any more.


    • Guest Who says:

      The usually suspect are now revisiting the hospital bombing again, now sufficient time has elapsed to tidy away the wrong kind of evidence and bring in fresh.

      The first casualty in war is media credibility. Along with that of most states.

      I don’t ‘know’ yet what the facts are, but make assessments based on now highly variable input and common sense.

      However, when Mehdi Hasan and The Squad and Raisin Brane demand they are offered access to everything from war zones to hotels to ‘investigate’ and pronounce findings, I laugh harder than when Panorama runs accusations based on what a kindly old community elder told a bloke who told a bloke who posted it on a chat for Springster to copy and paste.


  23. Sluff says:

    Laughable agenda-driven BBC coverage of the Scottish floods.

    I’ve now heard on two occasions that I’m expected to feel sorry for flood victims who did not have house contents insurance.

    But the second, on Toady this morning, was from some charity woman who ascribed the lack of insurance to the ‘cost of living crisis’.

    You can’t make it up.

    As an aside, I’ve been looking at Ordnance Survey maps for Brechin. Given two days red flood warnings, residents, especially those living in River Street ( and there’s a big clue) could have moved their cars as little as a 5 minute walk to safe, dry, higher ground, up just one contour line. Yet they didn’t. How sorry should I feel for this particular loss?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Sluff – it’s a bit like buying a house on an address called ‘flood lane’ … there’s a bit of a clue – I recall being shown an estate being built on some land which he knew ( being aged ) was prone to flooding – a few years later …. Flooding – not green crap – just nature being nature – since records began ….

      I think I might just issue a ‘weather warning ‘ …. All part of the brain washing …


      • davylars says:

        Just saw some bloke being interviewed on GBNews re Scottish flood
        “This flood was unprecedented.. we had the same thing two years ago”…


        • Scroblene says:

          10/10 Davylars!

          Hoot of the week and Senora O’Blene agrees, so it is worth twice that score !


      • Banania says:

        Do you remember the housing estate in the Midlands that was flooded a few years ago, and local people were saying that houses should never have been built there? The name of the place was (as I recall) Fishpool.


  24. Guest Who says:

    The usually suspect are now revisiting the hospital bombing again, now sufficient time has elapsed to tidy away the wrong kind of evidence and bring in fresh.

    The first casualty in war is media credibility. Along with that of most states.

    I don’t ‘know’ yet what the facts are, but make assessments based on now highly variable input and common sense.

    However, when Mehdi Hasan and The Squad and Raisin Brane demand they are offered access to everything from war zones to hotels to ‘investigate’ and pronounce findings, I laugh harder than when Panorama runs accusations based on what a kindly old community elder told a bloke who told a bloke who posted it on a chat for Springster to copy and paste.


  25. Eddy Booth says:


    Joke on Greta and her octopus, using the brackets ie
    ((( they))) – how some represent the shady globalists, she’s run by?
    But I’m ancient so could be wrong.
    But I like the idea anyway !


    • Guest Who says:

      Shady globalists?

      BILL GATES – Deeply concerned that social media means people aren’t receiving the same set of facts from a few news sources.

      Social Media makes the official narrative harder to push and the people harder to control.

      Consider this a warning.

      Wonder what his largesse W1Awards funds?


    • pugnazious says:

      Irony is is that it is the Arabs who sell us most of our planet-killing gas and oil.

      Go and protest there…or China.


  26. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – we know now we cannot trust the UN at all

    A spokesman from UNICEF, a charity in my school days that I am now ashamed to say I supported, was talking on TOADY about the trucks being allowed through the Gaza crossing from Egypt. He claimed the people in Gaza were down to three litres of water a day but that they need 50 litres a day! Incredible. No challenge to this complete rubbish from the BBC TOADY co-presenter, either Nick or Justin.


    • Sluff says:

      When I was in Cape Town in early 2018 there had been a bad drought and water rationing was increased. The permitted rate went down from 80 litres per day to 50 litres per day. Get that ! 50 litres. It was a virtue-signalling thing for politicians to be seen with greasy hair and an unwashed car. We had 3 minute showers, collecting the initial cold water to re-use in the loo or washing up bowl. The poem for the loo was ‘if it’s yellow let it mellow, if it’s brown flush it down’. Not ideal but manageable and basically we could live pretty normally in a first world kind of way.
      So I suspect that in extremis in a so-called ‘war zone’ you could get by on rather less than 50 litres per day. Knobson and JustRemainin haven’t got a clue.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Sluff, wot no ‘bath with a friend’ ? I remember the summer of 1976. 🙂

        A human with a normal intake of food (some of the Gazans are starving or very short of food) requires 2 litres (not 3) of water to drink each day. Two litres!


  27. G.W.F. says:

    Not looking too good for Israel. Stay out of Gaza. Don’t invade?


  28. tomo says:


  29. tomo says:


    • tomo says:

      I’d like to know if the rise in deaths is real and if it is – have the Health Minister. Whitty et al acknowledged it?



    • MarkyMark says:

      Sunday 27 November 2022

      Dear Darren Henry,

      Jeremy Hunt: everyone will be paying more tax after autumn statement 2022

      Everyone. Everyone. Everyone.

      Theresa May, Former UK PM earned £1.86 million in her 2 years since leaving Downing Street, figures show

      Barry Gardiner defends donations worth £500,000 from Chinese agent

      Matt Hancock, who lost the Tory whip after it was announced he would be appearing on the ITV programme, is still being paid as an independent MP and is rumoured to have been paid £400,000 to appear on the I’m a celebrity.

      Boris Johnson earns £315,000 for 30 minute speech and ‘fireside chat’ in United States

      Chuka Umunna Advisory Board of The Progressive Centre UK think tank (also known as Global Progress)

      Jeremy Corbyn Labour party leader accepted up to £20,000 (about $27,000) for appearances on the Iranian state broadcast network Press TV

      Keir Starmer £18,450 from Harper Collins as an advance payment for a book.

      Boris Johnson Accommodation for a private holiday for my partner and me, value £15,000 Destination of visit: St Vincent and the Grenadines

      Jeremy Hunt £10,000 from Citigroup Centre for speaking at an event on 9 March 2021. Hours: 4 hrs. Fee paid direct to charity. (Charity not mentioned)

      Nadhim Zahawi MP promises to repay the part of £5,822.27 expenses claim for second home energy bills that relates to electricity for stables

      MPs to get £2,200 pay rise from April for ‘dramatically increased’ duties last year

      Philip Hammond accepts £2,000 watch from Saudi sheikh, despite ban on donating expensive gifts

      Yours sincerely,
      Mr. H


  30. vlad says:

    The BBC claim that designating the Hamas baby-killers as terrorists would somehow indicate bias and compromise their ‘impartiality’ is a flat-out lie.
    On the contrary, calling them fighters and militants shows bias.
    Most western governments and security services, including the EU, the US, the UK, and political leaders Left and Right, as well as much of the msm, have all designated Hamas as terrorists. It is now the default nomenclature. To change it is an intervention, showing a deliberate decision to deviate from the norm.

    It is bias.

    The BBC are biased towards Islamic terrorists.


  31. pugnazious says:

    BBC indulging in a dangerous game as it ramps up the anti-Israeli rhetoric and gives a very one-sided view of events….

    The BBC….part of a very long tract demonising Israeli settlers for ‘attacking’ innocent Palestinians….it is all an Israeli campaign to steal Palestinian land….


    ‘Qusra was Wadi’s village, in the northern part of the West Bank near Nablus. The funeral that day was for four Palestinians from the village. Three had been killed the previous day – Wednesday 11 October – after Israeli settlers entered Qusra and attacked a Palestinian family home.

    The fourth was shot dead in clashes with Israeli soldiers that followed.’

    The Times of Israel…..perhaps not quite so innocent Palestinians…


    ‘Ynet reported that clashes broke out between the settlers and the villagers. According to the report, security forces received an alert on Wednesday afternoon of rock-throwing by both settlers and Palestinian villagers. Shortly after, the military received reports that gunmen fired at a military guard post near Qusra.

    In response, a group of armed settlers from Esh Kosdeh arrived at the village on ATVs, opened fire and set electricity poles in the village on fire, the report said. Troops then entered the village to disperse the clashes. ‘

    There is always the ‘fog of war’ in such reporting but the BBC’s determinedly one-sided reporting is meant as a counter-narrative to the horrors of the Hamas attack….now we’re supposed to see Israelis in a similar light and thus Hamas aren’t so bad really are they?


  32. pugnazious says:

    ‘Storm clouds are looming’

    You don’t see this in the BBC headlines….you might think an important subject that needs talking about as immigration, legal and illegal, looks set to destroy Europe as we know it….senior EU officials saying this so very noteworthy….or not if you’re the BBC…..

    ‘Now there are fears the Israeli-Hamas war will be fought out in the streets of Europe’s capitals, as well as in the Middle East. “When I hear Muslim religious authorities speaking the language of inter-religious conflict and explicitly stating that Europe is a party to this conflict, I feel that the storm clouds are looming,” warned Josep Borrell, the EU’s foreign policy chief on Wednesday.

    Charles Michel, the European Council president, warned the conflict would have “major security consequences” as he convened a meeting of EU leaders to discuss the crisis. “If we are not careful, it has the potential to exacerbate tensions between communities and feed extremism,” he told the prime ministers and presidents of the 27 member states on Tuesday.

    Germany made a “grave mistake” in throwing open its borders to so many foreigners, Henry Kissinger said, after people celebrated Hamas’s terror attack on Israel in “painful” scenes on the streets of Berlin.

    The Jewish former US secretary of state, who fled Nazi Germany when he was a 15-year-old, said the scenes were “painful” to watch.

    “It was a grave mistake to let in so many people of totally different cultures and religions and concepts, because it creates a pressure group inside each country,” the 100-year-old said. ‘

    Not as if none of this was unknown before…just that the BBC doesn’t like to talk about it, it actively hides such bad vibes about immigration.

    Way back in 2009 even the Guardian dipped a toe in the water and admitted maybe things haven’t gone to plan ref: immigration:


    ‘Europe’s risky experiment’

    ‘In a week in which the European election results have shown the potency of the anti-immigrant vote in many countries, including Britain, Christopher Caldwell’s contention that immigration has not only changed Europe but revolutionised it has a topical plausibility. Immigration, he says, and above all Muslim immigration, has planted in the heart of a weak and confused civilisation communities, rapidly growing in number, that have already changed Europe to suit their needs and beliefs. And the chances are, he insists, that in the future we will bend to their will rather than that they will bend to ours.

    Rightwing rubbish? Caldwell cannot be so easily dismissed.

    Immigration was encouraged by elites who took a ludicrously short-sighted view of its costs and consequences.

    This inherently unstable and dysfunctional system was set in motion, in other words, for no good reason. Those who started it off did not foresee how big it would become, nor the mechanisms of family reunion and arranged marriages that would drive it on even when restrictions were belatedly imposed. Most of them did not imagine, says Caldwell, that the newcomers would “retain the habits and cultures of southern villages, clans, marketplaces, and mosques”.

    He is right to argue that immigration on the scale that Europe has experienced constitutes a risky experiment to which we need not have submitted ourselves, and of which the final result is not yet clear. He is right that we frequently talk about it in stupid and dishonest ways. If his book sharpens a so far sluggish debate, it will have served an important purpose.’

    They even come to the conclusion that we know to be true of the BBC’s own attitude….immigration can only improve us by getting rid of ‘whiteness’ and replacing us with other cultures and peoples…payback for empires and colonization…and white people are inherently evil and racist….so get rid of them and problem over, everyone will then get along just fine…..

    ‘Either that, or they welcomed such retention. It was right and proper that the people Europe had lorded over should now come to the metropolitan countries: they would change us for the better. Not only were all cultures equal, but their cultures were more equal than ours. ‘


  33. Deborah says:

    In my mind always is the question posed to Starmer, ‘Westminster or Davos?’ and his instant reply, ‘Davos’. I fear that it would be the same answer from many m.p.s from all sides of the House. I guess so many have taken the WEF shilling (schilling?) that there is no longer national politics.


    • Up2snuff says:

      I am reading a book about ISIS, Deborah, and have reached the point where Graeme Wood* meets a Japanese Muslim convert. This Japanese convert has an idealised view of Islam.

      He wrote a book in 2009 The Mission of Islam in the Contemporary World. In it he argued that the real meaning of the Caliphate is a benevolent political arrangement leaving people to do as they choose in a world without borders. WEF, Marxists and Greens want a world without borders.


      * Graeme Wood: The Way of the Strangers (Encounters with the Islamic State) publ. Allen Lane (Penguin) 2017


  34. Zelazek says:

    Some great posts today: JohnC’s encounter with a Muslim on a flight to Dubai. Doublethinker identifying signs of optimism from Victor Davis Hanson. Many others.

    I feel we are entering a new phase in the gradual Muslim takeover of the West. Final defeat may be much nearer than we think. The question is: Is there anything we can do to avoid it?

    I have two answers but one is extreme and the other is virtually impossible.

    To save the West we must rid ourselves of Islam. We must stop building new mosques and demolish existing ones. We must not just halt Muslim immigration, we must repatriate or deport every Muslim to their country of origin. That’s my extreme solution.

    My virtually impossible other solution is to de-Islamize Muslim communities in the West. Educators would have to show strength and determination to expose the violent and supremacist doctrinal heart of Islam and governments and the law would have to be equally strong in suppressing the religion’s forms of expression.

    Unless one of those things happen, I see no hope for us.



    • vlad says:

      De-radicalisation programs don’t work.
      But conversion to Christianity does. A surpriising number of Muslims are converting.

      Also, certain scholars such as Jay Smith and Robert Spencer are completely deconstructing the standard narrative of Islam. If they’re not murdered first, they will have a profound effect.


    • Doublethinker says:

      Z ,
      It’s a bleak outlook. I can see no solution which completely rids us in the UK and the rest of the west of Islam . Even limiting its growing influence , trying to maintain the status quo will be a huge task requiring a dramatic volteface by the entire liberal political elite. I hope that VDH is right , that US liberals who have nearly brought the country to its knees , wake up to the lunacy of their accommodation of Islam .
      But you are right there isn’t a solution that doesn’t involve serious civil disturbance if not out right war. But the West needs oil and gas and is currently at war with one of its suppliers , Russia, and does it dare to take to arms against its other suppliers from Islamic countries?
      Will England cricket fans stand for Mo Ali to be sacked? Will Liverpool fans be happy to see Mo Salah banned. Will City and Newcastle fans be happy when Dubai or Saudi sell their clubs ? Can any government commit to having a civil war on its streets?
      As Fed Up says it’s easier for governments and ordinary folk just to let the conquest of the West happen gradually over the next two , three , four decades than to oppose it now.


    • Dickie says:

      hey Z – Go ahead Bro, fill your boots. Join the IDF.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Z, I’m a tad conflicted on Muslims in the UK (as well as other nationalities) because there is a great opportunity to win converts to Christianity, Hatun Tash being a prominent example. A very brave woman, that one. I have encountered Malcolm X’s disciples on the street in Christian evangelistic situations and it is not easy … but we have God on our side. 🙂


      • Zelazek says:

        Hey D – Don’t just be a dickie, be a hamasshole.


    • maxincony says:



  35. tomo says:


    I was astounded when I looked at how many EU MPs had been signed up and spoon fed by Open Society – hundreds of them.

    The same goes for the UK The Conservative Environment Network.

    I don’t really think it’s about ideology – it’s about manipulation and power without accountability and all the actuals harms that follow from that.

    I’d suggest that inadequates drift towards organised groups…. – and oh, boy do we have a plague of inadequates in the political sphere.


  36. Guest Who says:

    Drawing up the guest list for a fully funded BBC Ark due to leave to convey those so unhappy with here that they spend all their time trying to get it down to the level of somewhere else they idolise but dare not visit.

    Let’s start with..

    The Israeli story of the hospital bombing, believed by credulous/malicious Western journalists, has fallen apart.

    Then, of course….

    Along with Corbyn, most of the HoP, most of Fleet St, W1A, Salford, US TNI, Vile, Femi, Shola, YAB, Owen, Champion, etc.

    It will be to a fully functional area provisioned enough for them and all they would wish to join them for decades. Carbon neutral, #netzero of course.

    See how long the miserable, useless, parasites and their new guests last before the latter slaughter the former and then each other.


  37. tomo says:

    Radical cyclist in London will be doing this – the replies…

    I hope Vile tries it


    • pugnazious says:

      He’s riding right at the edge of the cycle path and the bus is right up against the far edge of the road…..what’s he supposed to do?…lol…apart from run over the cyclist. Would it be a hate crime to say good on him?

      Vine doesn’t need a big old sign…his over-inflated ego and bloated sense of entitled self-importance and self-righteousness takes up more than enough road-space…and airtime.


    • Docmarooned says:

      Wonderful. Serves the sanctimonious bastard right.


  38. Fedup2 says:

    Gritted my teeth and listened to ‘correspondent ‘ – we should have sympathy with Jeremy ( I’m lovely ) bowen . Poor Jeremy was playing war tourist in Ukraine when brave Hamas freedom fighters risked their lives taking on defenceless Israels on 7/10

    Poor Jeremy took nearly 2 days before he could get to the Middle East and take up is role as Islamic Hamas apologist .

    He moaned that non bbc people are putting stuff ‘online ‘ particularly Hamas freedom fighters bravely slaughtering children babies wimmin anyone – you me ….

    Not much mention of BBC bias – failing to call terrorism what it is – but then no surprise .

    At least Jeremy can now strut around telling the world how bad the Israelis are trying to protect their country ….

    And then there was nick Bryant – Bryant is as near as repulsively biased as the BBC gets – it was about the Sydney opera house which is 5 / 50 / 500 years old ….

    Nick was celebrating Australia isnt a white European style country any more and thank god – is now ‘multicultural ‘ – coloured and has imported all of the problems Europe has – isn’t that great .
    Poor nick mentioned that Paul Robeson performed at the opera house – but so did some one called ‘Rolf Harris ‘( who is that dad?)

    Any way poor Paul isn’t over the referendum where sane Australians voted against giving Abo s more free money as part of the constitution . Poor nick – but poor Jeremy …


  39. Fedup2 says:

    And then there was ‘moneybox ‘ . Ok – it was a bit personal because they spent 15 minutes on a £1.6 million online fraud against one of the oldest companies in the world .

    No detail from me – but a warning …. Never assume a phone call from a bank is real . Never give details over the phone unless really true ….
    By the way – if you comment on this post please include your full details including password PIN number and bank account details

    The fraud case reported that plod do nothing ‘ action fraud is useless – and you’ll be unlikely to get help from the bank – SO TAKE CARE ….


    • Deborah says:

      We once had someone in a strong Northern Irish accent purporting to be from The Revenue wanting to check our VAT returns and threatening to delay payment of our VAT repayment if we didn’t comply. Fortunately we did due diligence eg searching to discover if the phone number could possibly be real, phoning on a different phone, asking questions of the caller, etc. it was real. So when you hear in adverts that HMRC will never call out of the blue, don’t believe it. But still be very very careful.


      • Fedup2 says:

        My neighbour got scammed because she got a phone call at 3pm on a weekday – the bank was closing down so needed to replace her debit card . They were so helpful – they sent a ‘courier ‘ but needed the PIN number for verification .

        The courier took the card straight to the bank and at 1528 withdrew £1600 on a special ATM with no limit …..

        Trust no one – but as I said before – please send me your bank details as I need your money …


  40. micknotmike says:

    The bbc have actually done something useful. There is an article (Front page, natch.) titled “How to spot disinformation on social media”. It’s accompanied by a picture of the missing Wyrd sister, Ms. spring, looking serious and hiding behind an inch of makeup. This presumably, is to help you recognise disinformation when you see it. I notice that she is now appearing in virtually every article again having been suspended for a short while. Who knows what events have been neccesary to place her back in top-table favour?


  41. Althepalerp says:

    The thing is this . . .
    The Palestinians voted for Hamas.
    When will the BBC ask Palestinians if they still support Hamas.


    • Dickie says:

      Ah, but we in this country are happy to vote for the Lib/Lab /Con/Green uniparty and then complain about immigration. As the old saying goes “stupid is as stupid does”.


  42. G.W.F. says:

    Anychess workers will join the pro Pally demo today in response to the Israeli bombing of the hospital. BBC lies have an effect.



  43. Sluff says:

    Mrs S has become friendly with a Christian Iranian asylum seeker. He goes to church and helps out with cleaning, setting up etc. He has been a regular for over a year. The consensus is he is a graduate level capable professional.

    Let’s assume he is genuine.

    Because having created a few roots in the neighbourhood he has now been sent 60 miles away to live in another area. Where he has no roots and no history. Why?

    The point is he may be genuine, he may not be. But why does our totally useless government not decide quickly, one way or the other? If he’s genuine give him papers and let him work for a living. If not, get him out of the country.
    Instead the guy lives in limbo-land which is costing taxpayers loads of cash for no return whatever. Crazy.


    • Thoughtful says:

      This used to be the case years ago. You might remember that the cowardly Tory government under John Major, every bit as useless and incompetent as this one, folded when Labour called them a few ‘nasty’ names over the phrase “bogus asylum seeker” which was an accurate description for the vast majority.

      They also jumped at the chance to create more jobs for their mate in the legal profession by allowing for an appeal to an immigration court once their case was decided by the home office.

      It’s a pointless excercise really as around 90% of these appeals are refused and quite rightly so, but it pushes a nice wad towards the greedy weasels and keeps the Leftie big mouths happy, and the Tories are terrified of them.

      Yes your Iranian Asylum seeker is almost certainly bogus and practicing his taqqiya in order to remain in Britain, you’ll probably find he is visiting the Mosque still on a regular basis.

      These cases take time, before they are heard, but the worst part is this, that when his case fails as it pretty much inevitably will, the government will require him to leave and his support will cease, how is he then supposed to find his way back to Iran?

      Worse than that is the duplicity of the British government, because having failed his asylum claim and being an illegal migrant he continues to be funded through one of the many refugee aid charities which are an oxymoron as they help people who are deemed not to be refugees and no real effort is put into removing them at all!

      At that point though once the claim is denied you will see just how real his Christian conversion is !


  44. BRISSLES says:

    If he is of the graduate intelligence, then why hasnt he settled in any of the European countries he’s crossed to get here ? – all of which are Christian. Yes we are all peed off at what it’s costing the tax payer, but equally I’m fresh out of sympathy to those migrants who are in limbo-land, their choice and know the score before they get here, but know they’ll get a roof over their head, food and money while they wait.


  45. BRISSLES says:

    Um, would it be facetious to ask if we are receiving International Aid from agencies around the world to help with the flooding we are experiencing ! People have lost their lives, their homes are in ruins, so I wonder if charity tins are rattling in Asia.