371 Responses to Start the week 6th November 2023

  1. JohnC says:

    Modesty prevents me from gloating again at all the No.1 ‘wannabe’s’ so I’ll go check for a suitable BBC ‘agenda’ story to fill my top slot.

    OK – I’m back. It took all of 10 seconds to find something.

    Refund calls as smoke ‘blocks’ Edgbaston fireworks display

    ‘Spectators who attended a fireworks display at a cricket ground have called for refunds after saying the show was ruined by weather conditions.’

    Front page, world news according to the BBC.

    Brought to you by ‘Oprah Flash’ wearing a coat and trousers I think she made herself:

    A lesson for all about what happens to the quality of your output after years of recruitment based on mandatory quotas.


    • Guest Who says:

      Or… that coat was made in the EU for £200 and flown over specially plus £80 extra on taxes, rendering the young moppet utterly vexed at the evilness of Brexit.


  2. Deborah says:

    I know the on line safety act has been passed. Bearing in mind that a lesbian lady was visited by the police for taking a photo of a poster and an mp was lucky not to receive a prison sentence for suggesting someone from Bahrain went back to Bahrain, I wonder how careful do we posting on this site have to be? A couple of weeks ago there were a couple of new posters here whose names had ‘right’ in them. Their postings were right of Genghis Kahn. Could they have arrived to get the site in trouble? Thankfully they have disappeared again. I fear this world is turning mad and free speech for some is disappearing.


    • RightSide says:

      BINGO! We have a full house.

      “I wonder how careful do we posting on this site have to be?”

      Very very careful. I had to warn the moderator about the posts on here and in turn he had to issue a warning to all members.

      “A couple of weeks ago there were a couple of new posters here whose names had ‘right’ in them.”

      No, not a new poster, been here for quite a while under a number of different names. Maybe I’m Maxicony in disguise!

      “Their postings were right of Genghis Kahn.”
      ??? LOL. I don’t even know what to say about that. Is it bad to be compared to one of the greatest military commanders the world has every seen? I don’t think so… but maybe. “… right of” My god, compared to some poster here calling for mass extermination of the Palestines, I’m an angel.

      “Thankfully they have disappeared again.”
      That’s not very nice, is it?It’s good to have dissenting opinion. If we all greed on everything then this is nothing but an echo chamber.

      Don’t worry, despite your kind words, I’m not part of the online security team at the police.

      But you never know. For your own safety, I would advise you from refraining from:

      “The Police and CPS have formulated a definition of hate crimes and hate incidents, with hate speech forming a subset of these. Something is a hate incident if the victim or anyone else think it was motivated by hostility or prejudice based on: disability, race, religion, gender identity or sexual orientation.”

      Also, be aware that law enforcement are allowed to post hate speech as part of their investigation. In my experience, those with the most extreme views are the ones to be careful of. Think honeypot trap.



      • digg says:

        Probably true and a wise personal warning to all but sadly, putting this and other sites exactly where the left want them, pretty much neutered I would say.

        More or less the way things went in Soviet Russia and currently in China.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Rightside – i think its best to be on the safe side not comment at all – i have not ownership of this site – i do not benefit from it . I dont even know who owns or runs it .

        Ive alwsys assumed it was part of the State / BBC used to gauge the level of dismay by grown ups .

        That doesnt stop me from expressing more moderate views – but if anyone decides to post – that is for them .

        As for you rightside – you can – for the moment – decide to use the site or not .

        I suppose the State now has the power to shut it down. . Id be sad for a bit but the world keeps turning and im glad i grew up before the www came along

        Meanwhile – heres to the IDF switching off the internet in gaza – anything which makes it more difficult for the Hamas Broadcasting Company has to be welcomed …


        • G says:


          Just imagine the online/televised party political broadcasts next year. I’m sure we can find words, expressions or other aspects which will make us uncomfortable (that’s so easy for the most). Maybe we should report same to the police when it occurs?

          Reform UK? If they wanted to reform anything surely they would start at Proportional Representation and work onward? I see a need for some default mechanism to oust a current government when they ‘go on a frolic of their own’. I know you will know that expression from Tort. Maybe if x number of the population deemed the government defective and, like me now, want them to relinquish power before causing any more damage to the people/country, the mechanism should be in place to do so without an uprising. Five years before any change is possible is too long in view of the damage that can be inflicted over that time. Right now situation.

          Reform UK? The froth on a pint. Wot abaht being able to cut the flow of revenue into Government when they finance hair-brain schemes (or not)? That would go down nicely.

          Etc, etc. Question is, when is Reform to Reform………


          • Fedup2 says:

            G – I recall the grief caused by the fixed term parliament act – which I reall was a monster created by Cameron and that liberal idiot – nut nut couldn’t get rid of an enemy remainer parliament even when he wanted to …

            I’ve never been convinced that we have ever lived in a democracy – although there used to be a choice between red and blue – but now they are the same ….

            …. Reform is frightened of its’ own shadow or as ‘blanked ‘ by the msm as GBNews is ….

            I will vote next time – if only to try to save some idiot his deposit …my MP IDS will lose his seat because the one party Red council have been dumping even more of the third world on my londonistan borough … to be renamed / twinned with Gaza central …


    • atlas_shrugged says:

      The antidote maybe to own 5000 sheep, lamas and guinea-pigs.

      If the gestapo want to cart you off to the gulag then they are legally obliged to care for any livestock.

      Or maybe we should ask if a Mr Vladimar P. would like to host the site for us. Perhap Mr Snowden could give the site a technical hand.


  3. Up2snuff says:

    The BBC pension deficit is a great incentive to cancel your TV Licence and rely on boxed sets or UChoob vids or whatever music you might have bookmarked.


    • 1 of 8e9 says:

      Given the contempt they have for us they’ll just put it on the council tax and give the pension fund the Crown guarantee.


      • Up2snuff says:

        1 of eighty-nine (years of age?), I think the Council Tax proposal might result in a bit of pushback during ‘the-cost-of-living-crisis’, and from yooman raightss lore-yuss and also might, bearing in mind the inflationary age in which we have lived since 1992 take Local Authorities over the 5% increase where they have to hold a (very expensive) Referendum of their Council Tax-payers.

        I think the answer might be ‘No’.


    • Lucy Pevensey says:


      If 3 friends or relatives (separate households) buy 2 box sets of something each, you can pass around six box sets between you for a few months. Or something like that.
      It works.

      Buying them second-hand makes it cheaper.


      • Scroblene says:

        Good idea, Lucy!

        The DVD shelves in lour local charity shop have shrunk from four to one, probably because of streaming etc., becoming the norm!

        We regularly go to Ebay and get boxed sets, flicks etc., and ‘live’ TV is a place with a very distant past!

        The only way I can contribute to this site, is by spending as little time as possible on the Beebolic website, (after the national rags), sighing at the rubbish they spout, and then reading the proper alternative sites to get the ‘truth’!


      • Up2snuff says:

        Lucy, I agree. I have shared my vids with a bed-ridden nonagenarian as well as others, too.


  4. StewGreen says:

    Following on from last page of the Weekend thread
    Seen a tweet saying Musk has reinstated both KTHopkins and Tommy Robinson’s original accounts


  5. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Turkish police used tear gas and water cannon at a pro-Palestinian rally on Sunday. The hate-marchers attempted to storm an air base that houses US troops.


    • Jeff says:

      Yes, water cannon would be a good idea…

      They’d be brilliant against these militant ragheads. I honestly don’t care what they use to keep this filth away from The Cenotaph.

      Boris brought them in, but the Home Secretary (at the time) the gormless Theresa Maybe, got rid of them, “In case someone gets injured.”

      Sweetheart, that’s the bleedin’ idea…


    • Dickie says:

      Perhaps the “hate marchers” in Turkeye were just trying to get to the PX.


  6. tomo says:

    Channel 4 are in negotiations for a Gogglebox special?


    • MarkyMark says:

      72 Virgins await the martyrs in heaven – 72 trans women?


    • gb123 says:

      I don’t know why , but when I saw the top photo the Adams family song came into my brain. Now I am stuck with it in my head! (“They’re creepy and they’re kooky “…….. etc)


  7. TrickCyclist says:

    Not the BBC, just an observation about today’s television at the beginning of this Remembrance Week.
    Earlier today 5 Action (Freeview 33) showed U-571, a film that purloins the real-life courage of the Royal Navy and re-packages it as standard all-American Hollywood heroics. Currently on Great! Movies (Freeview 34) is The Patriot, the American Revolutionary War film which portrays the British as literal Nazis (British soldiers in the film massacre civilians in a manner unmistakeably like the SS atrocity at Oradour-sur-Glane in 1944). That the director of The Patriot is a German, Roland Emmerich, suggests that there was an agenda in the making of the movie.
    Okay, so both these films are over 20 years old, what I’m complaining about is the tone-deafness of these channels filling their schedules with this stuff at the beginning of an especially sensitive Remembrance Week.
    One channel, I can’t remember which, had Raid On Entebbe on several times earlier this year (with actor Stephen Macht as Bibi’s big brother Yonatan ‘Yoni’ Netanyahu). I can’t imagine them showing that now – but anti-British stuff, yeah that’s fine.
    I know it’s just the multichannel age and schedulers showing any old cheap muck, but it still rankles.

    Below, The Patriot director Roland Emmerich with his husband Omar De Soto.


  8. StewGreen says:

    Mahyar Tousi TV 3pm this afternoon put up a new video about BBC airing the the Hamas crisis actor Mt Fafo
    .. https://youtu.be/oRnlNC6tOQM

    #2 today’s IDF video about Hamas human shields at hospitals etc
    .. https://youtu.be/I4knQ9CMBIE

    “We are at war with Hamas, not with the civilians”

    “phone calls show Hamas has plenty of fuel”


  9. Nibor says:

    I`m going contraversial here ,

    I sympathise with the Palestinians .

    They say their homeland was stolen from them by nefarious means .

    They say the British started the conflict by the Balfour declaration and the British Mandate of Palestine .
    I learn ;
    1; I too dont want my homeland stolen by nefarious means like illegal immigration .

    2; Britain doesn`t get involved in international situations when the ordinary Joe isn`t affected .


    • Deborah says:

      Nibor: ‘they say their homeland……’ Nibor think how the Palestinians report the numbers dead, their spokesman deny in interviews with the U.K. press that they have any tunnels, deny what they did to those babies. Do you really trust a word they say?


      • taffman says:

        Lots of Palestinians living in peace in Israel for many years.
        Hamas are the problem. They are terrorist.
        Simples .


      • Nibor says:

        Deborah ,

        If I trust their words , then what I said stands .

        Everyone should have a homeland and not be displaced ( eg ; what happened in Londonistan etc )

        Britain should not stomp the world stage – erratum , jumped up British politicians and civil serpents – should not stomp about the world stage for glory when its not in your or mine and every British persons interests .


        • taffman says:

          Then have a word with Tony Blair etc .


        • LynetteO says:

          In March 1976 , Abu Mazen ( now the leader of the PLO) wrote in the official publication of the PLO ‘Al Thura” about Israel’s Independence war of 1948 that ” the Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians… but they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland ,imposed on them a political blockade and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews lived in Europe”


  10. Sluff says:

    Predictably and as reported previously, at the pro-Palestinian demos there are many placards held up by the useful idiots and the hard left alike provided by Socialist Worker.

    SW kindly provides a website

    It’s well worth a look just to see what is truly in the minds of these people.

    Here’s their ‘who we are ‘ section. I quote.

    ‘The Socialist Workers Party (SWP) is a revolutionary socialist party with branches across Britain. We fight against oppression, exploitation and environmental destruction.
    The problems in society come from a system, capitalism, that prioritises profit above all else. We think the solution is a revolution, where the majority of people take control of society and run it from the bottom up without the billionaires, bosses and landlords.
    We organise on a day-to-day basis by taking part in movements, protests and strikes—and arguing for a revolutionary socialist transformation of society.’

    And here is their ‘Ideas and Theory’ section. I quote again.

    ‘The ideas of the ruling class,” wrote Karl Marx, “are in every epoch the ruling ideas.” So for revolutionary Marxist organisations such as the Socialist Workers Party—which are opposed to the whole of capitalist society—having our own theory, our own ideas, is vitally important.
    Ideas in and of themselves cannot overthrow the system, but theory is an essential guide to our political practice. The revolutionary ideas of Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, Vladimir Lenin and Rosa Luxemburg remain vital for everyone who wants to change society. You can find many of their key works below.
    But Marxist theory isn’t a dogma. As the Hungarian revolutionary George Lukacs wrote, “orthodox Marxism does not imply the uncritical acceptance of the results of Marx’s investigations” or faithfully reading “a sacred book”. It’s about applying Marx’s method of class analysis to the problems that confront us today.
    And many of the works in our Ideas & Theory section below grapple with new political arguments and battles—from climate catastrophe and the fight for trans rights to the resurgence of the far right.’

    So there we have it. They are not really interested in the Palestinians per se, because otherwise they would be equally interested in the Israelis that were butchered on October 7th. No. What matters is the means to an end. Fomenting discord, mass action, sit-ins at railway stations. It’s all about the nihilists undermining society.

    Remember remember the 5th November.
    Gunpowder, treason, and plot.
    For 1605 read 2023.
    No Guy Fawkes but something no less insidious.


    • 1 of 8e9 says:

      ‘The broad, sunlit uplands of a socialist state, where the workers by hand and by brain dance around the corpses of their capitalist oppressors, and then starve to death.’ Anon


  11. taffman says:

    Scrap the BBC and the Labour Party.
    There fixed it !


  12. tomo says:

    No UK politician presently has cohones like DJT?



  13. tomo says:

    Compare + contrast to what Whitehall and their pet “Tories” have planned


  14. AsISeeIt says:

    Did this just happen overnight? I’m afraid Mr AsI only noticed this morning. Our BBC has suddenly gifted Israel-Gaza War one of their much-prized single subject tabs at the very top of their online news page.

    We have to give it a big welcome to the club, alongside such massive illustrious celebrity neighbours as Cost of Living, War in Ukraine and; Climate.

    I’m vaugely reminded of that BBC2 tv comedy Stella Street mockumentary, filmed on a shaky camcorder, based on the fantastical premise that a group of British and US celebrities had all decided to move into Stella Street in Surbiton. The main characters were played by John Sessions, Phil Cornwell and Ronni Ancona. The characters themselves were impressions of famous celebrities including Marlon Brando, Michael Caine, Jack Nicholson, and, bizarrely, veteran football pundit Jimmy Hill.

    But we digress. The less said about that now absentee, once paramount in the neighbourhood, BBC clickable subject matter tab Coronavirus the better: Five in every six BBC News articles devoted to Covid-19… analysis shows… BBC News is devoting 83 per cent of its output to the coronavirus, the highest proportion of any national news outlet, according to new analysis… (Press Gazette, April 2020)

    So much for the news. But as for the trade press… or as Jennifer Aniston liked to say, now for the science bit

    Covid-19 coverage varies by sector… In travel, an industry hit hard by restrictions on movement imposed by governments to try to slow the spread of the virus, 99 per cent of output on B2B title Travel Week is on the coronavirus. By contrast about a fifth of the news output on The Register, which covers the technology sector, is focused on Covid-19… Paul Kunert, UK Editor at The Register, said the website provides readers “with a balanced diet of news and analysis” and has “steered clear of scare stories” about coronavirus… (Press Gazette, April 2020)


    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit – Interesting – so the bbc has decided Israel is ‘at war with Gaza ‘ . But I thought they’d declared it wasn’t ’the People of Gaza ‘ – it was the islamic Hamas gang …. Unless – of course – the BBC has decided that Islamic Hamas and Gaza – is the same ….


  15. andyjsnape says:

    ‘Miracle of stupidity!’ Jordan Peterson says multiculturalism has FAILED as he rips apart ‘preposterous’ claim

    He has a point, but how does this ever get reversed 🙁


  16. Sluff says:

    Toe-curling failure by Mischal Useless Hussein on Toady this morning. Failure? Or design?
    She was ‘interviewing’ the spokesperson for eleven Burnley Labour councillors who have resigned over SirKeer’s policy on Gaza. Bless her, she pointed out that a letter that had been written on that account had signatories that were all Muslims. She attempted to query this. But to no avail. He just started ranting and would not stop. She tried in vain to talk over him but to no avail.
    But when eventually he did stop, she did not press the point home but when on to something else.
    So a potentially embarrassing and highly revealing moment was avoided.

    How convenient. Elephant in room missed. Again.


  17. andyjsnape says:

    Fast fashion: Boohoo breaks promises on ethical overhaul

    Who would of thought it that companies want the best prices.

    I guess the bbc doesn’t need to worry about value for money, as its income is almost guaranteed


  18. Althepalerp says:


    if you pay for your licence with a TV Licensing payment card (cash plan), call 0300 555 0286*.

    If you pay for your licence by Direct Debit, call 0300 790 0368*.

    The times you can call are:
    Monday to Friday: 08:30 to 18:30
    Saturday, Sunday and public holidays: closed.



  19. Sluff says:

    The BBC are so biased they are now reporting nothing as headline news. That’s right. Nothing.

    On Today at 0810, that’s the headline key note slot on the programme BTW, where they run headline interviews with government ministers, our Mischal is wailing that nasty Israel has cut off communications with Gaza, as if the BBC have a divine right to access. So they have nothing actual to report.

    That doesn’t stop them bringing on our Jeremy Bowen but he has no new information either. So what we get is sombre-toned emotive conjecture as to what ‘might’ be happening. ‘Ambulances don’t know where to go so they go where they can hear shells in case someone has been injured’. Those muslim (according to Toady earlier) Burnley councillors who have just resigned from the Labour Party must be loving it.

    That is the state of BBC news. They literally have nothing.
    So they make something up.
    Which in truth we knew already.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Iran has shut off the internet in parts of Tehran and Kurdistan, and blocked access to platforms such as Instagram and WhatsApp, in an attempt to curb a growing protest movement that has relied on social media to document dissent.22 Sept 2022

      Ukraine shut down the canal in 2014 soon after Russia annexed Crimea. Russia restored the flow of water in March 2022 during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. A 2015 study found that the canal had been providing 85% of Crimea’s water prior to the 2014 shutdown.


  20. MarkyMark says:

    This guy could by a small army to rescue his dad!

    “Luis Díaz signed a 6 year / £16,016,000 contract with the Liverpool F.C., including an annual average salary of £2,669,333. In 2023, Díaz will earn a base salary of £2,912,000, while carrying a cap hit of £2,912,000.”

    Colombian-born Liverpool footballer Luis Díaz has begged for his father’s kidnappers to free him immediately and “end this painful wait”.

    Both of Díaz’s parents were seized at gunpoint in his hometown of Barrancas by left-wing guerrillas of the National Liberation Army (ELN) on 28 October.

    While his mother was found, his father is still missing.



  21. MarkyMark says:

    Sonnet 94: They that have power to hurt and will do none
    They that have power to hurt and will do none,
    That do not do the thing they most do show,
    Who, moving others, are themselves as stone,
    Unmoved, cold, and to temptation slow:
    They rightly do inherit heaven’s graces
    And husband nature’s riches from expense;
    They are the lords and owners of their faces,
    Others but stewards of their excellence.
    The summer’s flower is to the summer sweet
    Though to itself it only live and die,
    But if that flower with base infection meet,
    The basest weed outbraves his dignity:
    For sweetest things turn sourest by their deeds;
    Lilies that fester smell far worse than weeds.


  22. StewGreen says:

    – The falling down Joe Biden, Halloween costumes
    .. https://youtu.be/aVumNf2_dtc

    – Simon Webb saying media mislead about Gaza
    cos they mislead about luxury hotels,
    and call suburbs refugee camps, when in fact all the locals were born there.
    .. https://youtu.be/ZlpUnNzFxr8


  23. JohnC says:

    The US is quietly arming Taiwan to the teeth

    Biden quietly working to start WW3 as usual. But the part of this article worthy of comment is the picture the BBC chose from Getty to show us the Taiwanese army:


    As usual, it’s a completely staged event. Just like all those pictures of women in brand new uniforms they showed us from Ukraine before the war started. Who all miraculously disappeared when the pictures came from the actual war.

    It’s lies and it’s sexist. It just needs ‘racist’ in there and it’s everything Getty + the BBC stand for.


  24. Foscari says:

    I am 77 years old and I am beginning to think that
    I don’t want to live in a country where hundreds
    of thousands if not millions of my fellow citizens
    gloat at the burning to death of children having
    their hands tied together before these atrocities
    were perpetrated .
    We are often told that the great majority of Muslims
    are moderate, Are they? I wish i was as eloquent as
    Douglas Murray . You can see his latest brilliant expose
    of what he would do with the scum in the UK supporting
    Hamas. Even Konsstatine Kisin on Trigonometry is left
    aghast. To be honest I fear for Douglas Murray’s safety
    after his condemnation of all of those including the BBC
    supporting Hamas,


    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      I think this is the talk you mean Foscari. Douglas Murray is seething and he is brilliant.


      • Doublethinker says:

        Following your post I have just watched the podcast. Wow Douglas says everything that needed saying . But perhaps his faith in the British Public’s courage and feelings of self preservation may be a bit too high. As someone else has posted today what is undoubted is his courage . He will have become a marked man for the authorities and the Muslims. He does spend a lot of time in the US hopefully he will receive more protection there than he will here. TR was hounded out of the UK for making very similar comments but Douglas wasn’t to be silenced. Well done him.


    • JohnC says:


      It’s a rare chance to see the ethics of the Left laid bare. We sort of see it with BLM, but this makes it explicit.

      The BBC don’t care one bit who dies or how horribly. They will pretend they do and lay on buckets of empathy if it suits them – but if it doesn’t (like those 20 children tied together then deliberately burned alive) they will airbush it out and simply drop it completely. The terrorist atrocities are now down to just ‘killed people’ if they even include it.


  25. Emmanuel Goldstein says:



  26. MarkyMark says:

    “I’ve come to Britain where you like foreigners to tell you what to do.”

    Konstantin Kisin – The Speech The World NEEDS To Hear

    “This morning I destroyed someone on twitter with facts and logic, from the toilet.” @7:50


    • StewGreen says:

      Selected lines

      “For years now many of us have been warning that the Barbarians are at the gates,
      we were wrong, they’re inside…

      My toddler .. if I don’t comply .. throws a tantrum
      and starts screaming “How dare you! You have stolen my dreams with your empty words!”
      And when he does, we read him a story, and put him to bed,
      We don’t give him a standing ovation in front of the U.N.

      Christopher Columbus.. changed the world
      not made out of choice.
      Europe was desperate. in 1453, the Ottomans sacked Constantinople and cut Europe off from the Silk Road.

      the history of our civilization .. was made by people who made mistakes
      .. dared to believe they could solve the problems they faced.
      The story of the West is a story of audacity.

      some people whose brains have been broken by an excess of education ..believe that our history is evil .. we do not deserve to be powerful .. we must be punished for the sins of our ancestors.

      We are in the fight of our lives. There is no greater return on your investment than to protect and preserve our civilization.

      Let’s set the agenda. … We’re not embarrassed about our past, we’re proud of it.
      And to my colleagues in New Media especially, I say this.
      The legacy media is dying for a reason, they can not be saved or reformed.
      Let’s stop complaining about them and start building the media empires of the future ourselves

      We do not get to choose
      whether we live or die,
      we only get to choose *if* we live *before* we die.



  27. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – is not interfering in another nation’s Electoral process a bit hypocritical, BBC?

    The BBC were indignant that Russia might have interfered in the 2016 USA Presidential Election and made claim after claim after the Donald Trump victory that “It woz Russia wot wun it for Trump”. Being a hypocrite did not stop JustRemainIn Webb from interfering, ahead of time, in the US Presidential Election for 2024. It is not even Primary season yet, Justin. Fortunately the former Trump aide Justin interviewed was wise to the BBC’s games and did not let JustRemainIn Webb get away with anything.


  28. Althepalerp says:

    Should Hamas lay down their weapons and save further bloodshed?
    Will the BBC ask the question?


  29. digg says:

    BBC Panorama watching our backs…


    Sharp buying practices at BooHoo fashion chain apparently uncovered by a BBC employee who secretly joined BooHoo as an admin assistant and then plotted the expose from within for a Panorama special.

    A lot of the suppliers were based in Leicester so no real surprise there then!

    We are all probably aware that most of the garments sold by these sort of chains are sourced from outfits that utilise sweat shop practices, particularly when buying from the Indian sub-continent or Asia.

    I had a client in Leicester who operated a clothing manufacturing business for many years quite successfully, he was slowly forced out of business when numerous new factories run mainly by Pakistanis paying low wages sprang up and immediately began undercutting his prices.

    Of course the BBC didn’t go anywhere near those companies to gather evidence of their part in the low pricing.

    Personally I am uneasy at this method of getting a story by our National Broadcaster. I believe it’s somewhat disturbing that the BBC would use BBC staff as moles in private companies. They should be reporting the news not getting involved in creating the news and It suggests a desire to simply to secure a blame game scoop so they can fill a slot on Panorama.

    Of course the night clubs will still be filled with young fillies wearing their latest ten quid BooHoo mini-dresses.


    • JohnC says:

      That story would be hilarious if it wasn’t such a serious sign of how wrong the BBC (and especially Panorama) have become.

      They put a BBC employee ‘under cover’ for 10 weeks to try and catch them out. And as it’s Panorama, the end result was already decided : they were just looking for anything they could find to back it up.

      And what were the things so bad they warrant headline UK news ?

      “During her time at Boohoo, the reporter was told about one tactic to secure cheap deals with suppliers who won’t budge on price.
      Go in low and if you’re not getting anywhere then just say that you can get it cheaper elsewhere,” a colleague told her. “I’m just lying. I just lie.”
      What ?. That is a very common thing to do and not wrong or illegal in any way. Nobody forces the supplier to accept the price.

      ‘One supplier was furious about a 10% discount being applied which it said it hadn’t agreed to.

      It said it would lose money because it would be working under cost and asked for the discount to be removed urgently. The undercover reporter doesn’t know how the dispute was resolved.’

      lol. Or the BBC don;t like how it was resolved to aren’t telling us.

      I’m not defending BooHoo in the slightest : I expect they are complete scumbags just like every other clothing factory in Leicester. I’m just commenting on how ridiculously amateur Panorama are these days.

      And I see this story has appeared simultaneously on dozens of website – so the BBC have put it straight out through the ‘Trusted News’ agenda/propaganda channel.


    • Lunchtime Loather says:

      What I would *LOVE* to see is a GB News, or similar, reporter going undercover as a BBC employee to see what could be found. Truth probably is though that it would end up as a 50-week series to cover all that was found.


  30. Fedup2 says:

    It seems the IDF is pushing on into the land of Islamic Hamas – just in time for the forthcoming armistice commemoration – I’m sure the outgoing Met commissioner has been told by the emir of londonistan not to ban Islamic marches – although he might be minded to ban the cenotaph ceremony for the sake of public order . A failing state …..


  31. MarkyMark says:

    Moral Compass – wait to read the book only £5.99!

    “Meanwhile, Nadine Dorries’s new book claims:

    An MP had sex with a prostitute on a billiard table watched by four other cheering MPs;

    Another MP stored a laptop containing indecent images of children on behalf of a relative;

    The Tory Whips’ office is claimed to be in possession of a video of a Minister engaged in an adulterous sexual act;

    The security camera which caught former Health Secretary Matt Hancock kissing an aide had allegedly been tampered with by his political enemies in order to catch him in the act.”



  32. Fedup2 says:

    Seems like various shades of blue labour ministers are turning on each other- as if any one cares – various amounts of oxygen being wasted ….


  33. Fedup2 says:

    The German manager of Liverpool FC has commented on some Luton FC supporters chanting about the hillsborough crush incident – for which Liverpool supporters were blameless ….
    It is interesting that he comments about this – but when Liverpool supporters booed the playing of the National Anthem at a big game he would not comment on it …. But then again – he is a kraut…


    • Sluff says:

      This sounds like a cue for a quick game of Compare and Contrast.
      Heysel Stadium 1985.

      Liverpool FC website quote

      ‘On May 29, 1985, defending European champions Liverpool and Cup Winners’ Cup holders Juventus were to meet at Heysel Stadium in Brussels, for the 30th European Cup final.

      The events that took place before kick-off in Block Z of the stadium turned the occasion into a nightmare: 39 fans – mostly Juventus supporters – tragically lost their lives and hundreds more were injured’.

      It all sounds rather unfortunate and blameless. Let’s check an alternative description about the ‘events’ from Brittanica. Quote.

      ‘There was a history of violence between English and Italian clubs, and the previous year’s final in Rome had ended in acrimony when Liverpool defeated the local side Roma on penalties. Roma fans, the police, and local hoteliers had all turned on Liverpool fans, who were forced to seek refuge in the British embassy.

      ‘Liverpool supporters considered Heysel an opportunity for revenge. The neutral section quickly filled with mainly Italian fans, and all that separated them from the Liverpool section was a flimsy fence. Taunts started, and then missiles began to fly. The fence was quickly breached, and the Liverpool fans advanced. Panic erupted as Juventus supporters and others in the neutral section tried to retreat, only to find their way blocked by a concrete wall. The pressure proved too much, and the structure gave way, crushing the trapped Italian fans and others.’

      What selective memories some have.


  34. StewGreen says:

    @HopeNotHate tweet

    Reinstating Tommy Robinson and Katie Hopkins means Elon Musk will be allowing hateful content and misinformation to take place on his watch on X/Twitter.


    This one 42 Likes

    … At a time of when extremists *on all sides are whipping up fear and hate* over the conflict in the Middle East …

    That’s false balance, of course there are some pro Israel super extremists, but the numbers of the opposite side are magnitudes more

    @TRobinsonNewEra tweets
    “I’ll start exposing you lot tomorrow @hopenothate”
    and gets 4,700 Likes


  35. Dickie says:

    Just thought I’d post this as it appears some commenters would happily agree with this Zionist psychopath.



  36. JohnC says:

    Six charged after London pro-Palestinian protest

    In total, 29 people were arrested by the Met Police, on suspicion of public order offences, racially motivated crimes and assaulting a police officer.

    ‘While the vast majority of people demonstrated peacefully, there were various breakaway groups whose behaviour was completely unacceptable.’
    Another ‘Mostly peaceful’ then.

    Did the BBC cover any of this unacceptable behaviour ?. I can’t seem to find much on any of it at the BBC which is always suspicious for events like this.

    Normally the violence would be in many videos but I can’t seem to find any. I’ve also noticed for the last few years that it’s increasingly difficult to find videos on other topics which are against the Leftist agenda. The war in Ukraine for example : 99% are pro-Ukraine propaganda. It seems to me that things are being censored on a massive scale. I’m sure the videos are there – but they are hidden if you search for them.


  37. Lunchtime Loather says:

    Does anybody remember the Great Fuel Shortage of 2019? No? Me neither.

    But it must have happened because it says it would in this page from 2014:

    “In just over five years Britain will have run out of oil, coal and gas, researchers have warned.”

    Some might say it was scaremongering. I would say they were correct.


    • StewGreen says:

      LunchtimeLoafer It’s worse than that
      It’s very import that the news record is not corrupted by going back and rewriting titles later
      Yet 11 hours after publication the BBC did a huge change on that article, changed the title


      • StewGreen says:

        My notes from before I found that

        May 16, 2014 BBCnews tweeted
        “UK’s oil, coal and gas will run out in 5 years, researchers warn
        UK ‘needs more home-grown energy’
        The UK’s proven reserves of oil, coal and gas will run out in little more than five years, a report looking at energy resources warns.”

        Nov 3, 2021 @BBCScotland tweeted
        “The North Sea still contains large quantities of oil and gas but, in the midst of a climate emergency, how much longer can it continue to be extracted?”


        • StewGreen says:

          I like the line in the 2014 BBC report
          from the Super prediction man Harrabin

          Ministers are hoping that enough shale gas – extracted by fracking – will be obtained to make a difference, the BBC’s environment analyst Roger Harrabin says.

          Yet we didn’t frack
          and still have a lot

          People claim the “The Global Sustainability Institute” was only talking about current operations and had excluded future fields
          but of course I pass nodding donkeys older than 2014 that are still running.


      • JohnC says:

        Sneaky buggers ?.

        More like dirty bast@rds.


  38. StewGreen says:

    Green madness : “Scunthorpe steel plant set to announce it will close its blast furnaces to replace them with Electric Arc furnaces”

    #1 Where will all the scrap steel come from to feed these furnaces ?

    #2 Doh, the government is already spending hundreds of millions building a hydrogen pipeline to the Scunthorpe steel plant
    and a CO2 collection pipeline too
    The change would mean those pipelines wouldn’t get much use

    Truth is UK will increase its IMPORTS of non-green steel


    • tomo says:


      joined up thinking isn’t what governemnt do – this is culpable stupidity and the perpetrators will not be held to account when the unicorns come home to roost – more’s the pity.

      The f-wits couldn’t be trusted to run a bath let alone a capital intensive major industrial project.

      The perps pensions should be tied to the economic success of the project.

      I’d say “your taxes at work” – but this is *loans* taken out on your account, without your consent and with no embarrassing cost benefit analysis – so we pay for these corrupt prats to pleasure themselves.


  39. Eddy Booth says:



    • MarkyMark says:

      3) Write a book and live off the proceeds (Boris Johnson!)


      • tomo says:

        It’s how “they” fund him – I doubt Boris’s books sell in quantities that generate much ROI for the publishers…

        – only ever seen them in remainer(!) bins at bookshops – never in a charity shop.


        • MarkyMark says:

          Payments from Hodder and Stoughton UK, Carmelite House, 50 Victoria Embankment, London EC4Y 0DZ, via United Agents, 12-26 Lexington St, London W1F 0LE:
          12 July 2022, received £439.82 for royalties on book already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 28 July 2022)
          10 August 2022, received £519.69 for royalties on book already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 23 August 2022)
          5 October 2022, received £1,771.82 for royalties on book already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 27 October 2022)
          14 March 2023, received £673.11 for royalties on book already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 03 April 2023)
          5 April 2023, received £2,590.85 for royalties on book already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 24 April 2023)
          Payments from HarperCollins UK, 1 London Bridge St, London SE1 9GF, via Rogers, Coleridge and White Ltd, 20 Powis Mews, London W11 1JN:
          30 April 2022, received £382.03 for royalties on books already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 27 May 2022)
          18 October 2022, received £171.03 for royalties on books already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 27 October 2022)
          6 January 2023, received £510,000 as an advance on an upcoming book yet to be published. Hours: approx. 10 hrs to date. (Registered 12 January 2023)
          4 May 2023, received £402.81 for royalties on books already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 16 May 2023)
          7 July 2022, received £88.73 from Editions Robert Laffont, 30 PL d’italie, 75013 Paris, France, via United Agents, 12-26 Lexington Street, London W1F 0LE, for royalties on book already written. Hours: no additional hours. (Registered 29 July 2022)
          Payments received via the Harry Walker Agency, 355 Lexington Avenue, Floor 21, New York, NY 10017, USA:
          14 October 2022, received £276,130 from the Council of Insurance Agents & Brokers (CIAB), 701 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Suite 750 Washington DC, 20004-2608 US, for a speaking engagement. Transport and accommodation also provided for me and two members of staff. Hours: 8 hrs 30 mins. (Registered 04 November 2022)
          9 November 2022, received £277,723.89 from Centerview Partners LLP, 31 West 52nd Street, 22nd Floor New York, New York 10019, for a speaking engagement. Transport and accommodation provided for me and two members of staff. Hours: 9 hrs. (Registered 06 December 2022)
          17 November 2022, received £261,652.34 from Hindustan Times, HT Media Ltd, Hindustan Times House (2nd Floor), 18-20 Kastuba Gandhi Marg, New Delhi – 110 001, India, for a speaking engagement and VIP reception. Transport, food and accommodation provided for me and two members of staff. Hours: 8 hrs 45 mins. (Registered 07 December 2022)
          13 December 2022, received £253,880.90 from ParallelChain Lab, 100 Tras Street #16-01, 100AM Singapore 079027, for a speaking engagement. Transport, food and accommodation provided for me and two staff members. Hours: 9 hrs. (Registered 09 January 2023)
          23 November 2022, received £215,275.98 from Televisao Independente, S.A. Rue Mario Castelhano, no40, Queluz de Baixo, 2734-502 Barcarena, Portugal, for a speaking engagement at CNN Global Summit Lisbon. Transport, food and accommodation provided for me and two members of staff. Hours: 8 hrs. (Registered 07 December 2022)
          6 December 2022, received £50,000 plus VAT from Ballymore Group, Ballymore Properties Ltd, Marsh Wall, London E14 9SJ, for a speaking engagement. Hours: 7 hrs. (Registered 21 December 2022)
          14 December 2022, received £200,892.86 from Aditya Birla Management Corporation PVT Ltd, Aditya Birla Centre, C Wing 3rd Floor, S.K. Ahire Marg, Worti, Mumbai, India, via London Speakers Bureau, 235 Kensington High Street, London W8 6SF, for a speaking engagement. Transport, food and accommodation provided for me and two staff members. Hours: 8 hrs. (Registered 10 January 2023)


          20 March 2023, received £2,463.66 from Dow Jones, 1211 Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY10036, for three articles in the Wall Street Journal. Hours: 7.5 hrs (2.5 hrs per article). (Registered 23 March 2023)


      • Thoughtful says:

        Tell Zelensky not to sign a peace treaty and be given millions by US arms manufacturers ?


  40. tomo says:

    Maybe that’s why Boris isn’t detouring to Kyiv on his Gaza trip?


    Blather, blather hullo chappies, give it to Putin what-ho!


    • MarkyMark says:

      ‘He is the best’: Ukrainians praise Boris Johnson as town names street after ‘hero’ British prime minister
      Catherine Neilan May 4, 2022, 12:46 PM GMT+1


      • tomo says:


        I’d hazard a guess that that’s the PR angle – If I were Boris I wouldn’t be announcing any travel plans prior to a visit.

        I’m wondering what transport BJ used for his Gaza trip – no photos on the apron / waving at the door of the plane – El Al?


  41. Lefty Wright says:

    I found this quite amusing.
    I wonder if the useful idiots can see the irony?


    • MarkyMark says:

      Lefty Wright – NO !!!! NO! NO!
      “Through the black magic, witchcraft you are able to send a lightning bolt to strike someone, Can you explain that scientifically … ” @0:50 – one of the speakers


      • Lefty Wright says:

        Yes I know but that magic trick only works on the 38th of November. Even then there is a high chance of a blowback which blows the witches brains out.


  42. Guest Who says:

    Religion is control.

    And control is power.

    Just as a disgracefully corrupted version of Christianity was abused in justification for way too long back in the Dark Ages, by cynical politicians in guise of religious leaders to garner land and riches, so Islam is being used, again, now. Or rather, has realised how it can be. Again, now.

    But many, still, do not feel a return to the Dark Ages is desirable despite the ambitions of a dedicated few who have figured out how to infiltrate the weaknesses (of which there are many) of Christian value, free speaking democracies.

    For me the watershed was Tony Blair’s politicisation of the instruments of government and authority, combined the naked self-interest of rubbing the country’s nose in a diversity that was never going to enhance anything except ghetto votes. Plus Alistair Campbell turning an already empathetic activist propaganda instrument in the BBC into a full bore £5,000,000,000 PR system to push singular views whilst crushing counters.

    Against this the people kept trying to elect those supposedly aware of this and also supposedly not in favour, but these were either inept or weak, or complicit or crooked enough to let the plan progress nearly unimpeded. Next time it will either be rigged by weight of PR or rigged anyway.

    Maybe a few smart but simply too venal went along with the early stages but have come to realise where this is going now, and how they too are nudging up the crocodilic menu list, but typically can’t rest compromises that are simply further exhibitions of weakness to be chewed up and spat out. Eh, Wes?

    Look at this country now. A minute % of the population by faith, a faith that is utterly alien and incompatible for here, imported from an area of third world savagery of centuries made rich by oil rather than brains, now hold the reins of government, next government, local government, the civil service and vast tranches of media.

    What is the point of voting any more? Any brave, or stupid enough to go up against this faith-based juggernaut propped up by educational vacuity and the appeal of tribal hate will be undermined or intercepted even if given a public mandate via secret ballot.

    Rigged polls, pathetic marches, protests, petitions and carefully selected gobs on screens are how policy is set and waved through.

    I sense Starmer is catching on. Andrew Neil has. A few others in politics and media. But not enough to counter the overwhelming noise of those who have learned shout, sulk, misbehave and generally act like psychotic toddlers to get a way based less on achieving anything positive, but crushing those they feel don’t share their perverse values.

    Golda Meier nailed it. Evil old men in Qatar and stupid young people everywhere would prefer to see every innocent child in Gaza die if Hamas can be allowed to cling on long enough to repopulate, and rearm again to repeat the same sorry process as had been enacted over and over again for decades whilst pasty pols witter platitudes and hopes and wishes that are simply fuel to the fires creating the fumes to black out light.

    Christianity was based on an ideal originally, turned to the dark side and then regained its purpose. Islam is based on a dark set of notions most worryingly intolerant of any alternative, often to a lethal degree. It was at the outset, it still is. Look at the places it prevails.

    Churches here are emptying as mosques proliferate. Violence is one the streets at a level unheard of in centuries. But gated communities and draconian law and enforcement to preserve those within can only isolate those responsible from the consequences for so long.


  43. vlad says:

    BBC headline: “Met Police cuts ties with adviser Attiq Malik after chant video emerges”

    Well, yes, but he wasn’t any old adviser and it wasn’t any old chant and it wasn’t any old group, was it, BBC?

    The DM posts a more honest headline with details the BBC seems to have missed: Hard-Left activist who led ‘from the river to the sea’ chant at pro-Palestine rally is Met Police adviser…

    Now we’re starting to get a better idea. And for those who haven’t been paying attention, ‘From the river to the sea’ is a call for the extermination of Israel and the Jews. You know, like what Adolph tried.

    A spokesperson added that the force would immediately cease its relationship with Mr Malik.

    Good, but what the hell was someone like that doing ‘advising’ the police; don’t they do background checks?

    And we know they only dismissed the extremist bastard because he was found out by The Telegraph.




    • StewGreen says:

      Ha “Attik says the media suppress stuff”
      Then the very same media air the footage from his own Muslim radio station InspireFM Luton, that makes him look like an idiot, which I guess he’d like suppressed.


  44. StewGreen says:

    49 years since the BBC big “Ice Age is coming” prediction



  45. vlad says:

    More on the islamist infiltration of the police:
    DM: ‘Leadership coordinator’ at Scotland Yard says support for Israel should be investigated as a ‘hate crime’.

    So, calling for the extermination of Jews is no problem, but showing support for Israel should be a hate crime??
    I wonder who is calling for such a measure?

    Oh, a certain Amina Ahmed, who describes herself as a ‘leadership coordinator’ at Scotland Yard and has made calls for those who support Israel to be investigated for a ‘hate crime’.

    We are so stuffed.



    • MarkyMark says:

      We were stuffed while back …..

      . UK ..
      But Babu said there was a lack of will to change within the police service. During his time as a middle-ranking officer he has pursued several initiatives which have been seen to help – including increasing the number of Muslim officers in the counter-terrorism unit from eight out of 2,500 to 35 under commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson. {guardian feb2013}

      .. USA ..
      On November 5, 2009, a mass shooting took place at Fort Hood, near Killeen, Texas.[1] Nidal Hasan, a U.S. Army major and psychiatrist, fatally shot 13 people and injured more than 30 others {wiki}
      “Hasan had then gone around behind the desk and bowed his head for several seconds when he suddenly stood up, shouted “Allahu Akbar!” and opened fire”

      US Army names Muslim chaplain spiritual leader of 14,000 mostly Christian soldiers {jihadwatch feb2017}
      “Army Lt. Col. Khallid Shabazz, a Muslim chaplain, has accepted the job of handling the spiritual affairs of 14,000 mostly Christian soldiers.”

      .. GERMANY ..
      Arrested German spy was a onetime gay porn actor — and a secret Islamist {washingtonpost nov2016}
      “BERLIN — Two weeks ago, German intelligence agents noticed an unusual user in a chat room known as a digital hideout for Islamic militants. The man claimed to be one of them — and said he was a German spy. He was offering to help Islamists infiltrate his agency’s (In April 2016, the man began working for the BfV, assigned to monitoring potentially violent Islamists in Germany.) defenses to stage a strike.


  46. andyjsnape says:

    BBC reveals first look at Murder is Easy, based on the classic mystery by Agatha Christie

    Can see why the bbc likes this


    • StewGreen says:

      Is everything in the BBC PR picture authentic for that time ?



      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        It’s just another one to miss. The BBC can mess with our history all it wants. I shan’t be watching.