Weekend 4 November 2023

How will the Far Left Islam Supporting anti Judeo Christian BBC report on the pro – Hamas terrorist supporters ‘demonstrating ‘ this and next weekend ? Indeed – how will the disfunctional failing police ‘service ‘ deal with this threat ? I think we can guess …..

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282 Responses to Weekend 4 November 2023

  1. Thoughtful says:

    Robert Catesby and Guy Fawkes were right !


  2. Flotsam says:

    When Boris was Mayor of London he was widely mocked for his purchased of water cannons, which were eventually sold at a big loss.

    Perhaps he wasn’t so wrong after all.


  3. tomo says:


  4. digg says:

    I can only see one endgame for the shit show that is the current Middle East situation.

    It will go through all the pathetic well they might have a point bollox by the submissive lefties.

    The Arab Muslims and all their blind followers in every Western country who happen to be Muslim will continue to act like total bastards and kill innocent people with gusto, driven by their fanaticism to their religion.

    Then the West will come to the realisation that, no they just want us all, especially Christians and non believers dead at which point the only solution will be to wake uo a smell the coffee…..

    And the USA will fucking nuke them.

    God help us all if that has to happen.

    But maybe it has to happen.


    • Thoughtful says:

      That’s if they can get the missile to work! They might like to take the p*** out of the Russians but when their own missiles were designed in the 1960s and failed on test this week I think they better think that out again.


    • MarkyMark says:

      Arabs believe economy is weak under democracy
      6 July 2022

      Arabs are losing faith in democracy to deliver economic stability across the Middle East and North Africa, according to a major new survey.

      Nearly 23,000 people were interviewed across nine countries and the Palestinian territories for BBC News Arabic by the Arab Barometer network.

      Most agreed with the statement that an economy is weak under a democracy.

      Most agreed with the statement that an economy is weak under a democracy.

      Most agreed with the statement that an economy is weak under a democracy.

      Import more arabs … Most agreed with the statement that an economy is weak under a democracy.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Which arabs have ever lived in a democracy? It is not compatible with the religion of peace.


        • MarkyMark says:

          2018 .. JUSTIN AGREES WITH you Rob!

          Archbishop of Canterbury says Islamic rules are incompatible with Britain’s laws which have Christian values

          Justin Welby said Sharia law should never become part of the UK legal system

          His predecessor Lord Williams had said Sharia law could be incorporated

          Welby said British law had ‘values and assumptions’ rooted in Christian traditions
          February 2018


          • vlad says:

            Welby may say that, but in practice he’s just another woke, weak appeaser, terrified of offending our ‘brothers’ in the religion of war.


    • Eddy Booth says:



    • vlad says:

      @digg – Interesting scenario but I honestly think the West has lost the will to defend itself, or even the will to live – see Douglas Murray.
      And even if it wanted to defend itself and push back in some form, I don’t think it could anymore.


  5. StewGreen says:

    Content warning : the last 1 second of the Bob Stewart video from Dec 2022 is supposed to be so racially offensive it’s just resulted in having a conviction for “a racially aggravated public order offence”
    is that an actual title ?

    The MP for Beckenham in southeast London told activist Sayed Ahmed Alwadaei “you’re taking money off my country, go away!” during a row in Westminster on December 14 last year.

    Asked how he felt after the incident, the activist said: “I feel that I was dehumanised, like I was someone who is not welcomed in the UK.

    “Because of my skin colour, because of where I came from, he feels I am taking money from his country.”

    You what ?
    I can believe the guy was beaten by the Bahraini government and wants to live outside the country
    But Stewart can believe can believe that all such shouty activists of any skin colours are draining the UK of ressources.
    eg Australians or Russians etc.

    Stewart happened to be with a Bahraini delegation at the time so it can’t be accused of being reacist against Barhraini folk in general

    The guy was accusing him of being corrupt .. isn’t that a hatey accusation ?

    I’m all for investigating politicians for actual corruption

    The activists own tweet today
    .. https://twitter.com/SAlwadaei/status/1720509854752665842


    • StewGreen says:

      When activists shouted at Anna Soubry that she was a Nazi
      had she replied “Go back to Leicester, you dole scroungers ”
      would that be hate speech ?

      Activist shouts at LIBMOB MP , activist gets jailed

      Activist shouts at proper Tory in a harassing way , MP gets convicted

      I guess Stewart is a fool for apologising , cos that can serve as an admission of guilt.


    • StewGreen says:

      The offence titles seem to be
      #1 “using threatening or abusive words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour and the offence was racially aggravated”

      #2 “using threatening or abusive words or behaviour likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress.”

      Seems that he was not convicted of the second charge

      On the same day he was charged
      Adjoa Andoh called the Royal balcony ‘too white’
      8000 complaints made to Ofcom by people who felt it was racially aggravating and @metpoliceuk didn’t charge her.


      • MarkyMark says:

        “I’m laughing because Steyn is so right. And I’m crying because Steyn is so right.”


    • BRISSLES says:

      We could get to the stage where its a hate crime to tell people to bugger off back to their own county ! I often told Dad to get back to Yorkshire when he started to get opinionated God rest his Soul.


  6. MarkyMark says:

    What has been happening in London and New York, Paris and Stockholm, Sydney and Montreal these last few weeks is not primarily about Jews or Muslims. It is, however, the beginning of the final stage of the process that began in the wake of the Second World War. As I first said long, long ago:

    As I wrote some years ago, the principal beneficiaries of post-war ‘Holocaust guilt’ turned out to be the Muslims. Anyone familiar with the cheerfully open prejudices of ‘tween-wars Continentals knows that they would never for a moment have contemplated the rise of mosques and madrassahs in Brussels and Lyons and Frankfurt and Salzburg. But in post-war Europe the Holocaust got laid at the feet of ethnocultural nationalism, and so there were no acceptable grounds on which to object.

    Just to reiterate:

    But then the Holocaust happened, and ‘nationalism’ got blamed, and mass immigration was instituted as a form of penance, and in one of history’s blacker jests the principal beneficiary of Holocaust guilt was Islam. So, in the newest variant of the oldest hatred, Jews get hated for the Islamization of Europe.



    • G says:

      The need for the sheeple to take control is now long overdue. The events over the last 3/4 weeks accelerated that need. Yet, no sign that exasperation has hit home yet……………….


  7. tomo says:


    • G says:


      What would be the ‘BBC Conspiracy Theorists’ views on that action I wonder.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Nothing to see here. Literally.

      Remember, Sleepy Joe got 81 million votes, some of them from living people.


  8. Guest Who says:

    Jeremy Bowen on @bbcnews blaming the shot people on the road south of Gaza City on “Israeli snipers”.
    There ARE no Israeli soldiers south of Gaza. You are utterly shameless, Bowen. Shame on you. Shame on the BBC.

    Taught JonDon all he knows.

    In other news…

    Be highly suspicious of anyone that confidently tweets the exact cause of a deadly incident in a war zone within minutes of it happening.
    It takes time to investigate such incidents. And sometimes, it might never be possible to determine what exactly happened.


    • digg says:

      I have noticed that Jeremy Bowens grimacing face has become more and more gargoyle like as the days pass. I expect him to break out and start screaming “Alloo Akbar” any day now!


  9. Thoughtful says:

    It appears that the US has experienced a potential attack on a nuclear power plant in South Carolina, it failed, but the perpetrator got away and is still at large



  10. Guest Who says:


    Shocking headline by @TheEconomist. There are more than 9,000 Palestinian civilians killed, among them nearly 4,000 children. One million people are displaced and 2.3 million people are now cut off from food, water, fuel, electricity and medical supplies. And this magazine wants more? This is not journalism, this is pure racism. Palestinian lives clearly do not matter to the ‘writers’

    Bet that doesn’t make BBC Young Reporter ‘Today’s Headlines’.


  11. MarkyMark says:

    Current national threat level
    The threat to the UK (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland) from terrorism is SUBSTANTIAL.


    LOW means an attack is highly unlikely
    MODERATE means an attack is possible, but not likely
    SUBSTANTIAL means an attack is likely
    SEVERE means an attack is highly likely
    CRITICAL means an attack is highly likely in the near future


    Terrorism in the UK: number of suspects tops 40,000 after MI5 rechecks its list

    rechecks its list
    rechecks its list


  12. MarkyMark says:

    How we laughed …. 2010 …

    (Aygul Ozkan) She was the first ever German politician of Turkish descent and a Muslim serving as minister.[1][2]

    Aygul Ozkan who is to become Social Minister in Lower Saxony state told news weekly Focus in an interview today that “Christian symbols do not belong into state-run schools.”


  13. Sluff says:

    The Orwellian dystopia is here.

    Conservative MP Bob Stewart guilty of racially aggravated public order offence


    ‘A Conservative MP who told an activist to “go back to Bahrain” has been found guilty of a racially aggravated public order offence.
    Bob Stewart, MP for Beckenham in south-east London, got into a row with Sayed Ahmed Alwadaei outside the Foreign Office’s Lancaster House in Westminster on 14 December.
    He told Mr Alwadaei: “You’re taking money off my country, go away.”
    Chief magistrate Paul Goldspring fined the MP £600.’

    The context is an event at the Bahrain embassy. FFS. Stewart was responding to a man who was heckling him.

    If that is a racial offence then about 50 million people in this country are guilty on a daily basis.
    Incredible. Appalling.
    But get this.
    This story has been in third place on the front page of the BBCwebshite for several hours.
    The BBC agenda is there for all to see.

    Further down. A likely bill of £250 million so what was RAF Scampton can be used for 150 asylum seekers for 3 years. Presumably I’m being racist if I dare to point out that a bill of over £1 million per asylum seeker is an utter betrayal of the legitimate interests of UK taxpayers. To the BBC, less important than an MP replying to a heckler.

    Boy are we heading down the toilet.


    • MarkyMark says:

      “(France) They’re not going to be teaching the second World War history in schools because it will problematic. The whole holocaust becomes contentious when teaching to Muslims. That’s why Dutch schools decided to skip the second world war. British schools find it easier to skip the Crusades.


  14. Lucy Pevensey says:

    The NHS is doing it’s nut trying to get me to have flu/covid jabs.
    At the beginning of Oct I had 2 texts from the GP inviting me for both vaccines. I ignored them. The following week they sent another. Now this week I’ve had 3 separate texts directly from the NHS asking me to book jabs.

    I’ve ignored them all. They must be chasing everyone who is not participating. And they must have a list.


    • Rich says:

      This year, so far, I’ve been offered jabs for flu, covid and shingles. I’ve ignored them.

      Looking at the seemingly ever-increasing number of darker complexions appearing around me I believe that a jab for something like tb would probably be of more benefit. It’s only a matter of time before there is an outbreak of something really nasty.


    • Sluff says:

      Doctors get extra payments for giving out jabs.
      Do you think that just might possibly have something to do with it?
      When they want you you get bombarded.
      When you want them, because you are ill, then it’s ‘sorry all the appointments have gone for today’


      • G says:

        Don’t know whether its common throughout Wales but, no more bloods taken in the local surgery. Got to attend a hospital many more miles away. Sorry, in the current illogical climate, you are forced to pump out car pollutants over 9 miles rather that a half mile. Welsh Government logic. Could be the, ‘cut-backs’ by the Welsh Government to finance developing and adapting their 20MPH programme. I see periodically on YouTube the advertisement from the Welsh Government to support the 20MPH scheme. Interviews 2/3 gormless residents of a village somewhere. How much did that ad cost in preparation much less a fee………………

        They’ve got to be panicking with 465,000 signatures now on the Petition.

        Let the ‘upside-down’ World continue to its utmost conclusion.


    • digg says:

      Same here Lucy!


    • Johnda says:

      I also have received two emails and four text messages. Also more reminders for flu vaccine which I have already had over 6 weeks ago.


  15. StewGreen says:

    The ambulance thing


  16. StewGreen says:

    This does seem to be Mr Fafo again


    • StewGreen says:

      The OiliLondon account is strong these days
      German TV report exposing Mr Fafo https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1720573588208533786

      calling out Gary Lineker who got 61K likes for praising Pali marches https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1720513213253448082


    • JohnC says:

      I realise now why the BBC pay Getty for all their pictures:

      They can use these staged pictures and present them as things other people did and are outside the control of the BBC. That’s why it always has ‘GETTY’ in the lower corner. It’s another trick to avoid accountability.

      It was fairly harmless when they were dressing actresses up as doctors or filling classrooms with black schoolgirls but it’s far more sinister now they are using them for Muslim terrorist propaganda.


  17. Eddy Booth says:

    New Palestine themed LGBTQ+ Pride Flag just dropped



    • JohnC says:

      I wonder how many Lefty LGBTQWERTYUIOP+++ wokies will attend the ‘peace’ marches.

      I would love it if someone interviewed them and asked what they thought about Muslim attitudes to gays. I bet they have no clue. They don’t talk about it at the BBC and Guardian.

      Their homophobia and sexism are two enormous elephants in the room which the shameless BBC hypocrites never go near.


      • R P McMurphy says:

        You missed “honour killings”, I’m sure their western sisters will shout their full support from the roof tops once the gays are sorted.


    • Pat..original says:

      For info. A few weeks ago a poster was searching for a chart which showed the effects on various countries of the increasing percentages of their Muslim population. The list comes from a book by Peter Hammond, Slavery, Terrorism and Islam. It is difficult to isolate. All I could find was from India, shown hopefully in the link below. Probably a bit out of date now, but may be of interest.



      • Scroblene says:

        Very interesting, Pat!

        ” Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges. When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.”

        Sums it all up doesn’t it!

        Best plan might be for normal British citizens to get out of places like Bradford, Rotherham and London, and live in real villages in the shires – working from home.

        That way, everyone who cares for the UK Inc. can live perfectly normal lives without the bloody foreigners and their mates getting their disgusting beliefs in the way of a normal existence!


    • Richard Pinder says:


      National Anti-Zionist Islamic (NAZI) flag of Palestine


  18. JohnC says:

    Conservative MP Bob Stewart guilty of racially aggravated public order offence

    Goodness – look at that world news, front-page headline on the BBC.

    Curious as to what heinous crime he has committed, I went to check:

    He said “go back to Bahrain” to an activist called ‘Sayed Ahmed Alwadaei’ who describes himself as ‘ the director and co-founder of the London-based Bahrain Institute for Rights and Democracy.’.

    ‘Labour and the Liberal Democrats have called for him to lose the Tory whip.’

    Right down the article we discover:

    “I am not a racist. He was saying that I was corrupt and that I had taken money.
    “My honour was at stake in front of a large number of ambassadors.”

    Seems like an allegation like that is very serious. Why wasn’t Mr Alwadaei up for slander ?.

    Seems like Bob is another victim of the new institutional racism.


  19. AsISeeIt says:

    Uniparty, what uniparty? asks Mr AsI and Rachel Reeves forgets to say thank you, Wiki, in this weekend edition

    Having lately mocked the Times and Guardian for their remarkable coincidence of headlines and even their copycat featured frontpage image choice, this morning we remind ourselves how differing editorial lines on foreign events are sometimes still available from our media, indeed different spellings are sometimes available…

    Hezbollah steps back from all-out war on Israel over Gaza – for now (BBC)

    Gaza Backlash Hizbollah rails at Israel (Financial Times)

    Well, the FT Weekend edition lives in the commerical world with bills to pay and wants and needs an eye-catcher, so emphasises the alarmism – whereas our BBC has its bills paid by licence fees and apparently prefers to present islamic terror-minded organisations as being reasonable and peace loving – for now.

    Hezbollah (“Party of God” also spelled Hizballah) is an Iran-backed Lebanese Shi’a militia and U.S.-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) (US Congressional Research Service, January 2023)

    So both spellings are valid. And I guess our BBC doesn’t have to call out these militants and gunmen as terrorists – if they don’t want to. Afterall, our BBC journos have their own safety to consider – when they swim in shark-infested waters. That was: Orla Guerin, BBC News, Beirut, Lebanon, reporting on Her-bollah by the way. And it’s not as though all of us back in Britain have a unity of outlook. We don’t, as yet, live under an absolute ‘Uniparty’ – for now?

    Election boost for Labour as former Tory chancellor Ken Clark backs Rachel Reeves… endorsed as ‘reassuring and responsible’ figure to run UK economy (‘i’ Weekend)

    How interesting that this ancient hushpuppy wearing wet Tory grandee is busy marking the socialist shadow finance spokeswoman’s homework – did he notice she’s been cribbing all her ideas off the internet: Rachel Reeves plagiarism row puts publishers under scrutiny… Leading book groups admit, amid questions over new work by UK shadow chancellor, that few use software to spot copying (FT)

    How funny that her central thesis is that female economists have historcally gone uncredited.

    New book from UK shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves lifts from Wikipedia (FT) – thank you, Wiki – as Mr AsI likes to say, but as our Ms Reeves neglected to cite

    Rachel Reeves, the brass-necked borrower (Conservative Woman)

    Calm down dear – says the Gruan: How common is plagiarism in the publishing industry? The shadow chancellor’s new book has come under scrutiny for lifting passages of text from other sources without acknowledgment. Academic writers explore how this can happen – Caroline Davies for the Guardian there dives into the deep weeds of systems and process so as to knock up a reasonable defence claim – blame her research minions and perhaps suggest some argument for publishing fact-checking laws and maybe an ombudman regulatory quango, perhaps? There’s bound to be Guardian reader jobs in it.

    Coup for Labour?

    The leftist Independent certainly likes this story: Tory big beast Ken Clarke praises Rachel Reeves’s ‘responsible’ economics in coup for Labour… The former Conservative chancellor said he had been impressed by the shadow chancellor

    Conspiracy, I here you whisper. Come off it. It’s not as though our party politics is just some sideshow to dupe the dumb masses – some glove puppet theatre – and in reality there’s this permanent ruling elite cabal now preparing the way to hoist Starmer and Reeves into power and foist Labour on us for their turn on the stage – while we the people have our Eye’s Wide Shut: …is a 1999 erotic mystery psychological drama film directed, produced, and co-written by Stanley Kubrick… Tom Cruise… infiltrates a masked orgy of an unnamed secret society. (Thank you, Wiki)

    Sex parties and ruthless Tory clique who secretly make – and break – Prime Mininsters… Revealed in Nadine Dorries’ bombshell book… ‘when it came to behind-the-scenes manipulation and manoeuvring all roads lead back to Michael Gove’ because ‘he binds all the dark arts people together‘ (Daily Mail)

    Fun with flags… xmas edition, anyone?

    M&S pulls Christmas advert post after Palestinian flag criticism… Christmas party hats in the colours of the Palestinian flag on fire… It said the hats were “traditional, festive coloured red, green and silver Christmas paper hats”(BBC)

    My old mum used to recit some line that may have been nursery doggeral or poetry of some kind that went something along the lines of “Your birthday cards are in the fire” – anyone hereabouts know what that was about? Answers in the replies please.

    Of course the jewish-founded retailer M&S have to tread very carefully through our own shark-infested waters here in modern Britain – much as our Orla does in Beirut

    Not that M&S in the past or again this time around are shy of a touch of leftist subversion of the christian holiday in their adverts: M&S said the intent was to “playfully show that some people don’t enjoy wearing paper Christmas hats”… Releasing the “Love Thismas not Thatmas” advert earlier this week, M&S said it was intended to “celebrate and empower our customers to just do the things they love”. (BBC) – down with tradition, eh, M&S?

    Modern Britain to Little Britain

    Little Britain sketch racist and outdated, Ofcom audience research says… “explicitly racist and outdated”, with some viewers surprised it is still available to watch on BBC iPlayer… Polling company Ipsos questioned 115 people on Ofcom’s behalf for the research… “A few participants said they found it funny but seemed embarrassed to say this…” (BBC)

    As always, do draw your own conclusions – and try to be brave about speaking up and saying out loud what it is you really think


    • Fedup2 says:

      Yes – Definately got to get the Christ ➕out of Christmas …..

      As for Ken Clarke – most anoraks shurely think he is as dead as heseltine – both sour old men enjoying every added living month on their huge State pensions …. £


      • Sluff says:

        Two old Tories criticising the younger Tories.
        Absolutely ideal material then for the anti-Tory government BBC to use regularly as ‘credible sage and wise contributors’


        • Scroblene says:

          Add John Major to the list of past-it nonentities, but watch out for Blair as he’s still at it, mad nutter that he is!

          Forget Brown, he’s just a distant nobody these days…


  20. Guest Who says:

    Khan on Khan.

    Rishi Sunak has written to the police criticising pro-Palestine marches on Armistice day, warning memorials could be ‘desecrated’
    Protests have been broadly peaceful and organisers say they won’t go near memorials
    The Mayor says the govt is playing politics

    Next BBC DG?

    Love the ‘broadly peaceful’.


    • Sluff says:

      Is there a case here to allow the protesters to protest on Armistice Day? And even desecrate the Cenotaph?

      Because there will be massive publicity, and that part of our population that might be uncertain about the state of affairs, given the mass propaganda from the Palestine Broadcasting Corporation, plus the majority passive British public, some with their heads-in-the-sand, would see the protesters in their true light for what they really are – there could be no ambiguity, no explanation, no arguments, no allowance – just a bunch of nihilistic extremist Far Left Marxists trying to bring down the state. The Socialist Worker placards give the game away nicely.


      • BRISSLES says:

        How long before the Cenotaph is pulled down because it offends (what will soon be) the majority population.


        • moggiemoo says:

          I’d be in favour. Then the hypocritical bastard MPs can go and show what they really think of this country and its veterans by kneeling down andsticking their arses in the air. Perhaps we can then file past and boot them up it.


        • MarkyMark says:



      • G.W.F. says:

        There are calls for veterans and others to turn up and protect the Cenotaph from the invaders. If so and the police kettle the veterans and patriots for the Moslem/Trot march there could be serious repercussions.


        • Fedup2 says:

          I think it is inevitable – if plod won’t protect the single most sacred place / day in the UK – or British Jews – then I’m sure others will …

          .. but guess which group plod will go for – and who gets a ‘pass’ …..with a Muslim mayor ready to dive in on the British ….

          I wonder whether ‘extremists ‘ might attack before next weekend though ….


        • JohnC says:

          I suspect there will be a huge police presence and they will kettle the veterans to a small area while the Muslims will go where they like.

          They can’t stop the Muslims so they have to stop the white English getting near them. Watch for the BBC showing videos of violent whiteys who are angry at being treated like that in their own country.


  21. Doublethinker says:

    No matter how strongly a media personality feels about the great risk posed by the ever growing number of Muslims in our country they must always qualify their remarks . They can never say that , as is abundantly clear, the vast majority of Muslims in the UK are at least sympathetic to Islamic terror if not outright supporters of it. I’m sure that GB News presenters and many guests are gagged. Presumably this is because of the likes of Ofcom rules and whatever similar body governs print media.
    Even Peter Hitchins , usually very outspoken on all manner of subjects pulled his punches in an interview with John Anderson’s podcast. When asked about the threat of breakdown of community cohesion and the resurrection of Enoch Powell’s speech, due to the ongoing demonstrations ,he felt it necessary to say Powell was a opportunist using racist language to try to revive his flagging political career and that Britain had a very good record of integration and harmonious race relations!!
    Having got on the right said of the official narrative he then started to tell it as it is , that since Blair ramped up immigration the country has been unable to cope and that we are now , after twenty five years , in a dark place and perhaps on the brink.
    I think Christie of GB News goes as far as is possible in modern Britain to say what the vast majority are thinking, he is growing in my estimation as a presenter.


    • AsISeeIt says:

      At times like these when the merits or otherwise of multiculturalism are discussed, I’m often reminded of that 1960s era Woody Allen standup gag – that went something like this:

      “I grew up in Brooklyn, New York. My parents were very liberal jews. They sent me to a very liberal unsegregated ecumenical school… where I was relentlessly and savagely bullied and beaten on a daily basis… by kids every creed, colour and ethnicity”


    • MarkyMark says:

      “Britain had a very good record of integration and harmonious race relations!!”

      People change their views depending on who is close by?



    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The situation now is far worse than anything Enoch could ever have imagined. Whole cities now are majority non-white and non-British, including London. We have lost our country without a shot being fired.


  22. Fedup2 says:

    Double – as you say – the vast majority know who the enemy is . However the population has either been brainwashed into ‘race guilt ‘ or just lethargy preventing them from expressing their true view .

    I think – even when the UK gets its’ next Islamic terrorist attack -the media will play it down – there will be lots of words but no real reaction – other countries populations might be found to have more backbone ….

    I think the chief rabbi mentioned about Palestine supporters being used by ‘extremists ‘ – but I think even he stops short of adding ‘Islamic ‘ to ‘extremist – so I guess it must be that ever nasty ‘Far Right ‘ Right ?

    Wouid be strange if the ‘Far Right ‘ lands up protecting Jews …


    • Fedup2 says:

      I’m sure I heard the bbc news crowing about how the US – Obama – had ‘saved ‘ the Middle East from a spreading war – and that the US economy will have a soft landing – no deep recession because of controlled interest rates …

      I’d suggest both will turn out to be lies . But I hope I’m wrong ….


      • JohnC says:

        He got the Nobel peace prize for it.

        Or was it because he is black ?. I can’t remember.


        • Thoughtful says:

          He’s not Black he’s mixed race and his Black father predictably left his mother just 2 weeks after Obama wasa born leaving her and er White family to raise him.
          If anything Obama is more White than Black, and it’s a mark of the Fascist Lefts hatred of White people that they regard him as Black.


          • JohnC says:

            Nothing about that on the BBC of course – this is the first headline my search came up with:

            ‘Reflections on Obama, the first black President of the US.’

            ‘Miguela Gonzales’ personal reflection on the tenure of Obama, the first black US President’

            Don’t listen to it though – it’s for BLM extremists only.


            • Deborah says:

              Of course Obama, with a middle name that he has, might have other influences to his outlook.


              • Scroblene says:

                What colour is his passport?

                Somewhere on-line is a serious post where the fakery is exposed for all to see, (can’t find it at the moment – rather like Beeboid’s Vilify crap-sheet), but there again, the leftie Yanks never look that deep when they’re just dimocrats trying to grab power any way they can.


      • Guest Who says:


        He is currently working on how the public get informed.

        Today the @ObamaFoundation brought together leaders, activists, and experts from around the world for our #DemocracyForum to discuss everything from rebuilding trust in our institutions, to the challenges and opportunities that come from AI, to the changing ways we consume information.

        Doubtless BBCNorthAmerica and the rest of the TNI front row.


  23. atlas_shrugged says:

    Four French words should be taught to children every remembrance Sunday:

    Q: Pourquoi?
    A: Pour le typhus

    They should know where and why this happened.


    • G says:

      It could be that the children/younger generation see the looming complete muslim control of the UK as potentially exciting.


  24. Guest Who says:

    Seems BBC Get Them Young and BBC News more keen on Gary’s intervention than JezBo’s and Reeta’s latest propaganda howler.


    Odd, given the prevalence of social media in lower ages. Maybe W1A has a filter on the cubicles?


  25. Guest Who says:

    If you’d like complain about Jeremy Bowen using Hamas propaganda on the 6pm BBC news last night, go ahead.
    It will be judged by the BBC of course, escalated to the BBC executive complaints unit in one of 2,000 cases, and then upheld 0.008% of the time.
    That’s some uphill fight. Almost like they worked with OFCOM to develop a process so corrupt that you cannot win.

    The state of the political media establishment that has brought us to this point, summarised.


    • MarkyMark says:

      CAS-4933135-ZV3V7F: The omission is the most powerful form of lie …

      Dear Marianna Spring (BBC wages paid under threat of prosecution),

      As I’ve had to look at your BBC news and use other sources to determine that your news is not news but selective editorial opinion I’d like to request that I have a refund for the last 4 years plus get the BBC free from now on.

      Please let me know how I can go about this as I am willing to create a full list of articles that I’ve had to investigate plus time taken for me to check your fact checker whilst realising that the BBC intentionally removes news rather than incorrectly report on it, uses images to sway opinion or misleads with the main titles hoping no one reads the full article.

      ‘Omission is the greatest form of lie.’

      CAS-4987700-SY1FTF : BBC NewsWatch says boredom with pro-Brexit march.

      CAS-4844672-N8FDYY: Update on the MP Expenses 2009 scandal in 2018.

      CAS-4939547-J71Z1V: Here’s hoping Ireland do the right thing G.Lineker.

      CAS-4937378-YKMWBJ: BBC not reporting ‘Day of Freedom’ March 06may2018.

      CAS-4906141-BFJQL0: I take offence that presenters promote their books.

      CAS-4892811-C820SC: I am offended that I have to pay the BBC TV Tax.

      CAS-4824332-633N1P: What happened in Italy was not covered …

      CAS-4933135-ZV3V7F: The omission is the most powerful form of lie …

      CAS-6005141-S1V9D1: Not seen a report on the UK Governments Covid19 

      Let me know how to go about resolving the issue of paying for something that wastes my time as I have to check each story rather than rely on its accuracy.



  26. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – in which JustRemainIn Webb takes a look at American politics

    Justin takes a look at the extreme age of politicians in the USA which means he can take a pop at Donald Trump but also engender some more ‘fear of Trump’ in the young US Electorate via his ‘Americast’ podcast. Mind you, the Democrat President is no spring chicken at three years older than the former President. Was it a shallow BBC attempt to get Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez to break with convention and oppose an incumbent President from the same political party as herself?


  27. Fedup2 says:

    A bit of good news – the DT reports that the BBC has a £1.7 billion gap in its ‘ finances caused by very generous pensions …the article is quite long but I will reproduce it because it might be an ally in our war –

    STARTS The BBC is facing a £1.7bn bill triggered by gold-plated pensions handed to staff including top stars and executives.

    The broadcaster has been plunged into a financial crisis and has admitted in documents seen by the Telegraph that its pensions bill is “not justifiable”.

    Executives have warned that the spiralling costs are limiting investment in programming.

    The black hole in the BBC’s finances is now so great that it is locked in a legal battle in an attempt to reduce the pension payouts. The corporation has already put aside £1.7bn to plug the gap – more than the cost of BBC One and Two content last year, and a cost of around £70 for every licence fee payer.

    BBC employees who joined before 2010 were offered retirement packages which rise in line with inflation and allow retirement at 60, six years before the state pension age. The cost of funding the pensions is now equivalent to almost half the salaries of those staff.

    Over the past two decades the BBC has faced controversy over soaring salaries paid to stars and top executives. These pay packages are now ramping up the cost of staff pensions.

    The broadcaster’s generous defined benefit pension scheme funds the retirement of a generation of BBC veterans, including former director generals George Entwistle, who resigned in the wake of the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal, and Greg Dyke, who quit following an inquiry into the death of Dr David Kelly.

    Current stars who joined the corporation before 2010 are also eligible for the scheme, including Laura Kuenssberg and Sir David Attenborough.

    In court documents seen by the Telegraph, the BBC’s chief operating officer Leigh Tavaziva said: “The sums having to be spent to continue defined benefit provision are necessarily limiting the resources available to the BBC to fund content and services, or employee reward more broadly.

    “The pension costs faced by the BBC are not justifiable in the context of its income level and the UK economic climate.”

    She said that the BBC “cannot expect the Government to require licence fee payers to pay more to cover the cost of pensions”, adding: “To my knowledge, the BBC is the only major media or technology organisation that has its defined benefit pension scheme open to accrual.”

    Last year the BBC paid an effective contribution rate of 42.3pc of staff salary into the old scheme, the highest level since it was established in the 1940s and nearly triple the rate in 2010.

    Contributions in the generous civil service pension scheme can be as high as 30pc. In the private sector, where final salary pension schemes have largely disappeared, employers typically pay in just 3pc.

    While the old BBC pension scheme has been closed to new joiners since 2010, it has become so expensive that it now makes up more than 80pc of the broadcaster’s spending on retirement benefits, despite covering fewer than 40pc of its staff.

    The broadcaster is fighting a legal battle to attempt to slash the costs of the scheme and has appealed against a High Court ruling that blocked it from reinterpreting the benefits of 6,800 staff still saving into it.

    It was granted permission to appeal in September and expects the appeal hearing to take place next year.

    It comes as the BBC faces a government review over the future of the licence fee after warnings that the funding model was unsustainable.

    The promises made by the BBC raise the prospect that any future licence fee replacement would leave the public on the hook for spiralling pension costs for decades to come.

    The licence fee, which currently costs £159 per year, is due to increase with inflation next year after the Government’s freeze ends.

    It is the latest episode in the debate over soaring salaries paid by the BBC to its stars and senior staff. The broadcaster came under intense scrutiny in the 2000s over pay rises awarded to top executives, many of whom are now collecting their pensions.

    Caroline Dinenage, a Conservative MP and chairman of the Culture, Media and Sport committee, said such high pension costs were of serious concern for the public.

    She said: “People working for the BBC and licence fee payers have a right to know what this will mean for the BBC’s output.”

    Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg said the problem was rife across the entire public sector, adding: “The liabilities that taxpayers face from gold-plated pension schemes is vast even if ameliorated by the recent rise in interest rates.”

    Sir John Redwood, the former head of Margaret Thatcher’s policy unit, said the BBC’s current funding model was unsustainable and needed a revamp as it faced growing competition from the likes of Disney, Netflix and Amazon.

    He added that while the BBC was legally obliged to honour its pension commitments, it should ensure all its retirement benefits were affordable.

    “We should commercialise the BBC outside the UK, ring fence its balance sheet and run it with good commercial results in mind,” he said. “Then for BBC UK, give it to licence holders on a specified date, one share each.”

    The generous scheme guarantees an inflation-linked retirement income for life. A BBC employee in the scheme could be entitled to two-thirds of their final salary when they reach retirement. This income would then rise each year in line with inflation, up to a limit of 10pc.

    Nearly 7,000 staff are still paying into the old pension scheme at the BBC. But a gap between the scheme’s assets and liabilities means licence fee payers have to contribute millions each year to the BBC’s “deficit payment plan” to help it balance its books.

    From March 2022 to the end of 2028, the BBC plans to pay a total £1.7 billion.
    The money will help fund the gold-plated pensions of BBC veterans, including former director generals such as Mr Entwistle, who served as the head of the broadcaster for just 54 days in 2012.

    Mr Entwistle is now 61, meaning he is entitled to his full BBC pension, which was worth £59,000 a year when he resigned in 2012.

    Mr Dyke, who served as director general from 2000 to 2004, said it had historically been common practice for senior managers to negotiate “significant enhancements” on top of their pension package. Mr Dyke added that neither he, nor any other executive to his knowledge, had done so at the BBC during his time there.

    The BBC’s current director general, Tim Davie, saved into the defined benefit scheme from 2012 to 2021, building up a pension worth £25,000 per year as of March 31, 2022. However, Mr Davie opted out of the scheme, and no longer contributes to a BBC pension arrangement, according to official documents.

    Duncan Simpson, of the Adam Smith Institute, a think tank, said the BBC’s contribution rates into the scheme, which had more than doubled in less than a decade, were “staggering”.

    “Unlike many parts of the public sector, it’s good that the BBC saw sense and closed their overly-generous defined benefit plans to new entrants many years ago. Yet the problems they’re now facing should have been foreseen,” he said. “The trustees should make every effort to bring down costs and better consider the interests of the licence fee payer.”

    The BBC’s pension plan was a generous “final salary” scheme until 1996, when it switched to the less lucrative “career average” model. However, the defined benefit scheme closed completely to new members in 2010.

    New BBC staff instead save into a defined contribution pension scheme, as is the norm in the private sector.

    The old final salary scheme guaranteed a retirement income until death, came with an inflation link and a retirement age of 60.

    One of the possible solutions being considered by the BBC is to change the age at which staff in the scheme can claim their pension, The Telegraph understands. Most people work until the state pension age, which is set at 66 and is in the process of rising to 67.
    Benjamin Elks, of the campaign group Taxpayers’ Alliance, said: “People will be shocked by these gold-plated pensions. Old hands at the Beeb are raking in huge pensions which most licence fee payers can only dream of.

    “This is just another reason to scrap the hated TV tax and allow people to choose whether to fork out for these savings pots.”

    Ministers are expected to launch a formal review into the BBC’s funding model before the end of the year, ahead of the renewal of its royal charter in 2027. The charter sets out the broadcaster’s mission and how its services are paid for.

    A spokesman for the BBC said: “Like many organisations, the BBC is reviewing its pension options in the interests of both its staff and licence fee payers.

    “We are committed to providing an industry-leading offer for all employees that is financially stable, fairer and more consistent whilst balancing this with the need to deliver value.”

    The shortfall amounts to
    10 million 700 thousand licences ……..still gonna pay ?

    I suppose the generosity of the BBC pension is one of the reasons the public don’t hear about what goes on within ?


    • Doublethinker says:

      Let us not forget that no matter how much we loath the BBC and their gold plated pensions , and no one loathes this lot more than I do, their pension deficit is but a drop in the ocean when compared to the amount that Civil Service and much of the public sector pensions costs the country each year.

      It seems to me that we are country beset by more and deeper divisions than I have ever known:
      *Racial and religious division , even our recent arrivals despise each other as well as despising us
      *Remainer v Brexit still rumbles on after seven long years but is now more anti democrats v democrats
      *Feather bedded state pensioners and future pensioners , immune to the ravages of inflation v those with private sector pensions who watch helplessly as inflation gobbles up their hard won security
      *Green lunatics v everyone who worries about their and their off springs standard of living and curtailment of their life style such as they can still afford
      * Liberal fools who believe in all manner of crazy cultural ideas and cults v ordinary folk who want to preserve most aspects of British culture

      I’m sure they are other serious divisions.

      Can these rifts be healed? Can a modern country or society function and survive with such divisions ?


      • Scroblene says:

        Why not sell the debt to Soros, a few arabs and some of those far-Eastern billionaires?

        That’ll complete the destruction of the financial markets for the next thirty years!

        Might as well cut out the middle man…


    • G says:


      ” limiting the resources available to the BBC to fund content and services, or employee reward more broadly.”

      Well, well. Perhaps that’s the main reason for increasingly hiring overseas ‘people’? Guess the BBC has joined the, ‘Cheap Labour from overseas’ brigade.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        There’s got to be a reason they employ Danny Sebastian and Jay Blades, but I just can’t think what it is.


        • BRISSLES says:

          The BBC used to be the exemplary model for perfectly spoken English – that everyone understood.
          Danny Sebastian, has a voice suitable for an isolated field and Jay “wots dat den” Blades voice is an assault on the eardrums. I think he (Blades) tends to overexaggerste his working class roots in his way of speaking, though I may be wrong..


  28. tomo says:

    Have to think cubicle chimp editors think the Bankman Fried swindle / fraud was a “gamble” – rather than a deliberate theft and that his donations (of stolen money) to US Democrat Party shouldn’t be discussed.

    “Cryptocurrency fraudster found guilty, goes to jail” would’ve been more appropriate – looks like soft pedalling from here in the cheap seats.



    • Fedup2 says:

      Sluff – thanks – I saved a ‘pension pot ‘ back in the 1980s … I’ve just fought the battle of annuities and bought one … to do so without paying for ‘independent advice ‘ takes a good bit of research ….

      As for BBC employees – self serving organisation or what ?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Tomo – if I recall – he The fried bankman )threw millions at anyone to stop President trump being re elected….. I hope he goes into one of those Federal Life prisons but some how I think he will buy his freedom …..
      I ‘enjoy ‘ hearing about fraudsters getting their deserves – all the signs were there with that clever loon ….


      • tomo says:

        The fried bankman threw millions of other people’s money at anyone to stop President trump being re elected…..


        There’s also some murkier stuff around that has the guy and his amphetamine addled polyamorous chums as played suckers beyond the folk who deposited funds with him.

        I’ve seen write-ups of interviews with the (deeply unimpressive on many levels) girlfriend – the troupe at FTX simply imho couldn’t have set it all up – any more than a McDonalds counter operative could set up a whole chain of franchises. If I recall correctly people in the crypto space were saying FTX didn’t pass the sniff test for ages.

        Him going to jail and stuff like the BBC coverage looks like “the cleanup crew” in action.


  29. Sluff says:

    Excellent post Fedup.
    One we should all commit to memory. It does raise a few points.
    1. If even the BBC had to close its salary related scheme in 2010 because of costs, what does that say about the hidden (very well hidden) costs which taxpayers have to pay towards public sector pensions even now – civil servants, teachers, our NHS heroes and many others all have their snouts in the pensions trough. Strangely not a peep about this in all those public sector pay strikes earlier this year.
    2. Good to see quantification – a salary of X sounds so much less than a remuneration of X plus 42%.
    3. Comparisons of public and private sector pay, almost always by the public sector, absolutely never mention pensions.

    The one bright spot is that since interest rates have gone up, so too have annuities, the mechanism by which salary related pensions are paid. So the costs of providing the benefit have actually gone down. Not before time.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Sluff – thanks – I saved a ‘pension pot ‘ back in the 1980s … I’ve just fought the battle of annuities and bought one … to do so without paying for ‘independent advice ‘ takes a good bit of research ….

      As for BBC employees – self serving organisation or what ?


  30. tomo says:

    He’s premature …


  31. tomo says:



  32. Guest Who says:

    One way to get an even more sympathetic airing is to fluff a has been ‘journalist’.

    It was an honour to join @jonsopel for @TheNewsAgents this week.
    We discussed the dire situation in Gaza and my hope for a two state solution and long-lasting peace.

    Few cared even to comment other than the hippy chicks. Are these dipsy pols and their media propagandists still trying to sell two state solutions in face of what anyone watching Hamas statements hears?

    Meanwhile, on the appeal of pod people:


    That’s about £100,000 per listener. Plus pension.


  33. Guest Who says:


    Pretty much when Ian realised where his main pay check was coming from. And being funny any more was exempted anyway.


  34. Guest Who says:

    Imagine if it was an IDF rocket and a Gaza kindergarten. Imagine it was an Israeli rocket hitting 100 feet from an AP journalist??

    Doesn’t take any imagination.

    But JezBo might be dispatched to tell Reeta to ask ToeNails (yawn) what he read in the Critic Magazine that a kindly old community leader in Qatar told a Panorama Investigation headed by Mike Wendling and Carl Beech


  35. G says:

    Just sent this to Reform party:

    “Before I consider any further, attending the event in …………. xxth November 2023, I need to know if it is worth it. Please advise which current UK/Welsh legislation you will either repeal or partly repeal should you obtain power.”


    • Nibor says:

      Well I spent £200 buying books and literature looking into a problem suffered by the UK . I`ve asked to meet up with them . It could be nothing that I`ve discovered , or it could be something . Never know if we dont meet up .


    • StewGreen says:

      @G to check on Reform Party policy check Richard Tice’s tweets

      “Secret files expose multibillion-pound cover-up at HS2
      – just scrap it *all* now”

      “Let’s cut taxes, cut daft EU regs, cut wasteful govt spend, scrap net zero & go for growth!
      Only ⁦@reformparty_uk has real plan for growth ”


      • G says:


        I don’t do tweets. And I have no wish to do so. No wish to expose myself to any extra nonsense over what I am already exposed to.

        This is the “Reform is Essential” document found on their website. The only document it seems, setting out their ‘Policies’. I’m sure there will be others somewhere. But this is the document shown to potential voters like you, the Reform Party ‘shop window’ so to speak. Others may wish to peruse same:


        My request to Reform is simple: tell me what you would repeal in part or wholly. I need a ‘checklist’ not tweets and/or gobshite i.e. what the rest have perpetrated on the UK population for decades, probably centuries. Unless I have missed a change in Constitutional affairs, legislation is legislation and once in place it can ONLY be amended / Repealed by Parliament (apart from some Statutory Instruments but that’s another story). That’s why I am sceptical of the Rich Sunak stated delay in reaching Net Zero simply by diktat – which is for the birds or those stupid enough to except the words of a fluent (billionaire) liar.

        I see Reform’s statutory ‘Essential Reform’ above does state the necessity in removal of the UK from the ECHR. That’s good. But little else, ‘in writing’

        At my age, I’m forever, ‘cutting the crap’ to try and get to reality. Come next election and on the current trajectory, I’ll spoil my ballot. I’ve had it with nonsense, bullshit and blatant lies.


        • taffman says:

          Spoiling your vote is a wasted vote .
          You could be facilitating the election of a party that is not of your political views or ideals ?


  36. Guest Who says:


    NBC really screwing the TNI pooch.

    Doubtless BBC N. America did not see this like the entire BBc missed the crisis actor.

    It’s all about trust. Apparently.


  37. StewGreen says:

    Brian of London .. ‘The West lost it’s marbles and no longer stands with Israel against 2 billion Muslims’


    • MarkyMark says:

      The blindfold goes over our eyes … “Islam is peaceful. Just ask Rafiqi
      Islam, a loving husband, who told his wife that he had a present for
      her, blindfolded her to make it a surprise and then cut off her
      fingers. Then the rest of the Islam family mopped up the blood, while
      Mr. Islam threw her fingers into the trash, and after a few hours took
      her to the hospital where they warned her to tell the doctors that she
      had an accident.”

      “Either we go on playing the game of blindfold and machete, or we take
      off the blindfold, take away the machete and show Mr. Islam the door.”

      Breaking up with Mr. Islam by Daniel Greenfield {sultanknish jun2016}



      • Up2snuff says:

        Stew, a message to Brian of London: read Romans chapters 9, 10 and 11 in the New Testament section of the Bible. All Israel will be saved, well a remnant will be saved from Israel who call on the name of the LORD for salvation. Pay particular attention please, Brian, to verses 11 and 13 of chapter 10.

        That is why Paul, a descendent of Abraham of the tribe of Benjamin can then write in Romans 11 verses 25 to 27: (25) For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery–so that you will not be wise in your own estimation–that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; (26) and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, * “THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION, HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB.” (27) “THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS.” Oh, by the way, when God makes a Covenant He always keeps His word!

        [* Quotation marks and capitals means that Paul is quoting from the Old Testament.]


  38. StewGreen says:

    Interesting that UK/Canada/Australia/ and probably NZ aunties all behave in the “we know better than you and don’t have to answer your questions” way

    CBC President Catherine Tait was asked a question as to why the false headline “Israel bombs hospital and killed 500” is still up and she declined to answer properly

    “I will not apologize because the journalism is among the finest in the world.”

    I still disagree with most and think there are logical operational reasons for not using the terrorists labels where your staff need to wok under the people you are calling terrorists.


  39. MarkyMark says:

    BBC to pour £1.7bn into pensions black hole
    Broadcaster plunged into crisis by gold-plated pensions handed to staff

    The broadcaster has been plunged into a financial crisis and has admitted in documents seen by the Telegraph that its pensions bill is “not justifiable”.

    “not justifiable” BUT DID IT ANYWAY
    “not justifiable” BUT DID IT ANYWAY
    “not justifiable” BUT DID IT ANYWAY
    “not justifiable” BUT DID IT ANYWAY


  40. Dickie says:

    The CEO of one of the world’s leading tech conferences was forced to resign after criticizing Israel’s assault on Gaza. He was quickly replaced by one of the industry’s most prominent US government-affiliated regime change specialists.



    • Guest Who says:

      That seems darned odd given AOC says a vast majority of Americans just love Hamas and ya boo to Jews.

      Mind you, this was based on one those polls that, again, I and no one I know was ever asked to participate in.


  41. Guest Who says:


    An image of the Cenotaph.

    Mess Blair and Campbell, aided by most establishment pygmies since, have certainly rubbed the country’s nose in diversity.

    And to gain what? I can think of almost nothing. What a symbol of loss that those brave souls were fighting to preserve.


  42. Dickie says:

    That Time When George Bush Accidentally Told Us About



  43. Dickie says:

    That Time When George Bush Accidentally Told Us About 2023


  44. G.W.F. says:

    The peaceful invaders march through London, demonstrate outside the BBC, sit in Piccadilly and descend on Trafalgar Square.
    Photos show people wearing those check table cloths on their heads. Wonder if they are supplied by the SWP with their banners?



  45. G.W.F. says:

    And what is the BBC guilty of?



    • JohnC says:

      I believe it’s because they are not supporting Hamas 100%.

      And both are paying lipservice to Israel through sheer hypocrisy because the decent people of the world would be up in arms if they didn’t.

      Welcome to the totally intolerant world of the Left. Just imagine what these people would do if they had total power.

      And if your imagination isn’t working, just put ‘Nazis’ into google and it will tell you.