Midweek 3rd July 2024

The election Post . Only the Reform Party promises to deal with the anti British BBC – please vote Reform -and if you are going to a voting station – take your own pen …

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  1. G.W.F. says:

    Wow, I am first.. Have not contributed for a while but read every post. Everyone beats me to it. Just vote for a party that promises to scrap the licence fee.

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  2. Fedup2 says:

    Good job GWF…. And in the news …. Boris returns for the funeral …. Heseltine dug up accusing Reform of being the black shirts – and badinock ? Telling the blues they’ll be lucky to exist after the election . Bury the tories

    Vote Reform …

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, smacks of desperation that Heseltini statement yesterday.

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    • tarien says:

      Surprised anyone would pay any attention to Heseltine after the horlicks he made of his policies when he was a minister in the old conservative party. However this nation under a Labour government will have a very unsure future ahead. Can’t get my head around the likes of Angela Rayner and Rachel Reese being in positions of real power-Still delighted the Reform party managed to get three seats.
      We must have Proportional Representation next time, which will be much farer.

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  3. dioclese says:

    Several friends of mine complained about the way Nigel Farage was treated on Question Time. The audience was clearly selected to be hostile as the BBC on their own admission selected the audience and selected the questions they were asking.

    Despite this clear bias, the generic reply set to each compliant was the same regards of the emphasis in the original complaint.

    They say they could not predict the direction of the debate despite selecting the questions which is a clearly self contradictory statement

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    • digg says:

      A leopard cannot change its spots and the BBC despises everyone who is not left orientated.

      Time to switch them off!

      Vote with your remote everyone!

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    • Up2snuff says:

      dioclese, who did your friends complain to? The BBC or OFCOM?

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  4. digg says:

    Neurofen advert claiming that women having pain were being ignored by the medical profession due to “women” bias.

    ( by definition, from men?)

    How much more of this total crap can we take.

    Who the hell do these companies employ to spout this total lying shite and what have they got to gain by coming out with such crap antagonistic shite?

    My guess is that they have given free rein to a recently employed lesbian marketing twat.

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      I visited the National Trust property Coughton Court in Warwickshire. Washing my hands in the gents toilet I was surprised to be addressed by a guy leaving. He gestured to the wall behind me and said something about the NT’s adopting such nonsense. I turned to look at the object of his outburst.

      On the wall…of the gents toilet…two free tampax dispensers.

      WTF!!!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I thought the stats were something like 2 thirds of the medical mafia is some type of female . They find the life life balance attractive.
      And they can moan about how hard done by they are

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  5. digg says:

    According to the pollsters the UK is about to go back to the 1970’s with a Labour government back in power, meanwhile the French are about to kick the lefties out and in the US it’s possible that we might see the return of sanity with Trump returned to power.

    What a strange World!

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  6. tomo says:

    Ireland is going to implode, I have this suspicion that ain’t what they thought they were voting for.

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    • JohnC says:

      It’s amazing how established laws can be overturned for ideological reasons.

      I remember the program ‘Windfarm Wars’. It started with both sides talking about the environment, pollution etc and as it dragged on it became abundantly clear that every single person involved was motivated 100% by money. The electric company for the free subsidies and the locals for compensation. The farmer who owned the land instantly retired because he was offered so much cash.

      At the end, the final verdict was ‘The windfarm would be refused by every measure of law. But there is a new law saying old laws don’t apply for this.’
      So it was approved.
      It dawned on me that the entire exercise and public enquiry was a complete and total waste of time and money.

      I relectantly assume society has always been like this. One set of truths to keep the people subdued and a totally different set for the real world. And I expect it’s much, much worse today as we drift slowly towards 1984.

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      • tomo says:

        JohnC

        ‘Windfarm Wars’ – I might have seen the same program – I recall a BBC effort to promote winndmills where one of their pro “experts” was quite the most aggressively censorious bullying green nitwit imaginable. Not open to debate / discussion at all – so much of a thug that I found myself balling my fists – ghastly item who presumed to order everyone around and police facts and language for his own gratification…. A real PoS.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      The immigrants make their way north, having no desire to assimilate to French culture, but continuing to demand a First World standard of living, even as they flout laws, do not produce, and murder French citizens, such as factory bosses and shopkeepers, as well as the ordinary people who do not welcome them. They are also joined by the immigrants who already reside in Europe, as well as various left-wing and anarchist groups. Across the West, more and more migrants arrive and have children, rapidly growing to outnumber whites. In a matter of months, the white West has been overrun and pro-immigrant governments have been established, while the white people are ordered to share their houses and flats with the immigrants.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints

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  7. BRISSLES says:

    Interestingly, I was doing the Stepford Wife stroll with a trolley around my local Co-op today (so glamorous), when suddenly over the instore tannoy came a request from a young exuberant voice, asking me to sign a petition that the Co-op was instigating, demanding the in-coming government do more on climate change !! I almost dropped my half a dozen Golden Yolks !
    There followed a few words from either a Co-op member or employee, I was still getting my head around this so couldn’t be sure. I asked a friendly staff member who was shelf stacking what the hell was that all about, she said she switches off from the muzak and announcements so wasn’t much help.

    Have Just Stop Oil infiltrated the Co-op ? its like a comedy sketch written by Galton and Simpson, certainly my branch have all the characters they would need !

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    • JohnC says:

      Haven’t been into Coop since I went for some tomatoes and they were something like £1.50 for 4 small ones.

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      • tomo says:

        New development Co-op stores and feather spitting, ambush pricing go together in this neck of the woods – feels like motorway service areas or air-side at a UK airport.

        “the caring, sharing shop you own” – is, these days, utterly farcical.

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    • Flotsam says:

      Our local Coop in a generally affluent rural Cheshire village always has a couple of Morning Star, the Communist newspaper, on the news stand. To the best of my knowledge not one has ever been sold, in years.

      I would add that the Coop is a notably corrupt organisation.

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    • Deborah says:

      Co-op has always been very anti Israel and pro Gaza (well for a long time) so I would rather go hungry than set foot in one.

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    • atlas_shrugged says:

      Brissles

      Snap I noticed this climate-boiling propaganda being announced at my local co-op the other day.

      There was me being foolish thinking I was going there to buy food when actually I needed brainwashing!

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      BRISSLES
      No surprise there. After all the Cooperative movement grew out of the Labour movement.

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  8. tomo says:

    Scott’s wrong – we aren’t there yet….

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  9. Nibor says:

    Over in France there are riots against the National Rally ( or whatever) taking control .

    The BBC asks how a political party that was anti semitic and collaborate with illegal occupiers can take over an important country .
    Well you helped them do it BBC when Labour win on Thursday .

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  10. tomo says:

    Alison Pearson talks to Nigel Farage

    https://archive.ph/kOfyL

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  11. JohnC says:

    Just went to the BBC to check if they are running another story on the Supreme Court decision and sure enough:

    ‘How the Supreme Court became a political battlefield’
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crg4rz6zedyo

    And sure enough it’s basically a whining piece attempting to discredit it’s bias and the Conservative members.

    What disgust me most about this piece is that we have been watching the most absurd political persecution of Trump by Democrat district attorneys in conjunction with Democrat judges for months. They have been doing their utmost to remove him from the ballot paper and the BBC have not said anything whatsoever about it’s political motivation. All they have ever done is quote Trump saying it then dropped the subject completely.

    I have never seen the BBC report how Trump has suddenly gone from nothing to 88 criminal charges – all of which I am willing to bet have been instigated by the democrats. 88 !!!. NEVER mentioned by the BBC. This is exactly what the MSM are supposed to do.

    It’s clear to me the judges have made this decision because the Democrats have shown beyond doubt they cannot be trusted to act in a civilised manner and hence this unfortunate law is now necessary. I am 100% convinced that THAT is the reason they made this decision : to protect democracy, not end it.

    And the BBC wiull never tell us any of that because THEY are part of the same problem.

    In this article they go through the whole court in painstaking detail making as point of telling us Trump appointed 3 judges where Biden has only appointed one. They then spectacularly fail to tell us why. Do Presidents simply sack some to appoint their own ?. Or are there some kind of strict rules and it just happened like that ?. I’ll assume the latter because they BBC don’t go near it because they want to infer it was something underhand by Trump.

    Thins are serious now because Trump has a very good chance of winning and the Democrats are running out of legal dirty ways to keep him out. They have invested everything. They are desperate – as the BBC are demonstrating. When people panic, they can do extreme things and this farce is not over yet.

    And finally, let’s see the Judge which Biden appointed. I’m not making any comment on her ability or character : I’m saying Biden appointed her because she is a woman and she’s black.
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    And here are the two appointed by Obama:
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    Bit of a theme going on there. Are we supposed to believe they really were the best ones for the job ?.
    I would love to see a history of their judgements and how often they went against the Democrat line. Of course the BBC won’t tell us that.

    The article rambles on telling us the various ways the court could be reformed. But you can be 100% sure that if they had voted AGAINST Trump it would be a fair decision and the court would not have been questioned at all. THAT sums of the BBC and the Left to me.

    If Trump is elected and starts the retribution for this attempted political takeover by the Left he will be doing it to PROTECT the democracy THEY have tried to destroy.

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      “ This is exactly what the MSM are supposed to do.”

      Here is American Thinker’s take on the(ir) MSM,

      https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/07/the_media_lie_even_leftists_can_t_ignore.html

      And we have to remember that OUR Al Beeb are the gold standard….of lies or lying by omission.

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      • JohnC says:

        The BBC have made the art of lying without lying into an art form.
        It’s woven into the entire article. An inflexion in one direction here, a suggestion there and the odd selective snippet given without context.

        It all adds up in the unsuspecting readers mind without them even realising it.

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      Chief Justice Thomas was correct to suggest, obliquely, that Sotomayor’s dissenting judgement was deranged. From what I’ve read she certainly is no first class student of the US constitution.

      Much better students of American constitutional law than she have been writing for some time that the legal attacks on Trump for insurrection and election denial are invalid.

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      • JohnC says:

        Her ranting sounded more like a hysterical student activist than something a supreme court judge should say.

        She publicly and totally disrepected the court and it’s authority. Whatever she thought, she should have gone along with the majority decision. Because that is exactly what democracy means.

        She should be sacked.

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        • tomo says:

          Robert Barnes is good on SCOTUS detail at vivabarneslaw.

          His talks on SCOTUS and the US Constitution are an entertaining masterclass. His rants about Amy Coney Barrett are epic – she’s in there via her social connections and not for her legal acumen…

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        • Kikuchiyo says:

          Judges are allowed to dissent in their judgement. Thus it has always been since the court’s inception. If there were no dissenters, there would be no majority.

          She cannot be ‘sacked’. She can be impeached. If justices were impeached and removed for dissenting, there wouldn’t be a judge on the bench.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Kik- as a law student when the House of Lords split on a big decision – say 4-1 we were always encouraged to read the dissenting judgement because it tende to be more ‘reasoned ‘ and detailed than the majority . This applies equally to the UK US jurisdictions .
            But if the dissenting judgement was that of a loon – then a tick box loon it will always be . If the US judgement to were normally as reasoned as the UK – then the loon accusation would nt stand .. but polluting the bench with tick boxes might have put paid to that …

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            • Kikuchiyo says:

              Three judges dissented – are they all loons?

              Where is the lunacy in her judgement?

              Click to access 23-939_e2pg.pdf

              I thought conservative types were all for the rule of law. It seems the Trump cult of personality comes before those oft claimed principles and even belief in the fundamentals of democracy.

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    • Kikuchiyo says:

      “I have never seen the BBC report how Trump has suddenly gone from nothing to 88 criminal charges ”

      Because he’s a criminal and he’s now being charged with his crimes? It’s not very complicated.

      “I am 100% convinced that THAT is the reason they made this decision : to protect democracy, not end it.”

      100% convinced -based on zero evidence. Odd way of going about protecting democracy.

      “And the BBC wiull never tell us any of that because THEY are part of the same problem.”

      The BBC isn’t reporting your own personal, evidence free theories.

      “In this article they go through the whole court in painstaking detail making as point of telling us Trump appointed 3 judges where Biden has only appointed one. They then spectacularly fail to tell us why. Do Presidents simply sack some to appoint their own ?. Or are there some kind of strict rules and it just happened like that ?. I’ll assume the latter because they BBC don’t go near it because they want to infer it was something underhand by Trump.”

      Maybe you simply lack a basic knowledge of the subject? Justices are appointed for life by a President. Trump nominated three because three happened to die or retire during his term. This is explained in the article.

      “And finally, let’s see the Judge which Biden appointed. I’m not making any comment on her ability or character : I’m saying Biden appointed her because she is a woman and she’s black.”

      Biden stated his intention to keep his campaign promise to nominate a Black woman

      “I would love to see a history of their judgements and how often they went against the Democrat line. Of course the BBC won’t tell us that.”

      Your criticism of the BBC is that it hasn’t given you a history of each judge’s judgements throughout their career in the article? Eh, ok then.

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      • JohnC says:

        Excuse me while I stop laughing at your response K.

        ‘Because he’s a criminal and he’s now being charged with his crimes.’
        What a great reply. You sound like one of those spiteful idiots from the troll farm on a BBC HYS. No doubt you are one. Have you any idea just how stupid that retort is given the circumstances ?.
        Did you see Joe proclaim how Trump would be stopped by every means possible right before it all happened ?.

        Tell us K, would these charges have been brought if Trump was not running ?. Why did they wait so long do you think ?. What about that ridiculously large fine ?. Was it appropriate do you think ?. Or do you think it might have been – again – intended to damage his ability to campaign ?.

        We won’t even mention all the overturned attempts by Democrats to stop Trump even running. In a real democracy, they would have been sacked for abuse of power.

        ‘Biden stated his intention to keep his campaign promise to nominate a Black woman’
        So I was exactly right then ?. And you think it’s OK to put someone on the Supreme Court just for that reason do you ?. Can you not even see just how racist that is ?.

        The point I made is how the BBC are quick enough to point out when Judges are Republicans (as they did here) when they don’t like the result of the vote but they don’t tell us anything if they are Democrats. They just pretend it’s due law and order.

        Don’t you think it’s a concidence how the BBC suddenly see fit to start criticising the Supreme Court ?. Is that just chance as well ?.

        And when someone says they are convinced of something, it is their personal opinion. They don’t have to give evidence. Saying ‘without providing evidence’ is just repeating the same moronic line the BBC use when they don’t like something someone said.

        Your reply is just so weak on every level, I suggest you go somewhere where you won’t embarass yourself. Stick to HYS and maybe go look at Quora or Reddit where they have a lot of others like you who exist in groupthink where they are safe from being ridiculed.

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        • Kikuchiyo says:

          ‘Did you see Joe proclaim how Trump would be stopped by every means possible right before it all happened ?.’

          I hadn’t but then if you get your info from some Maga nutter on social media, that might explain why you are misinformed:

          https://www.newsweek.com/biden-trump-indictment-stop-power-1792426

          https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-trump-indictment-biden-666348749991

          Did Biden make Trump steal classified documents, or force him to attempt to overthrow the constitution and democracy? I thought you guys cared about those things?

          ‘Tell us K, would these charges have been brought if Trump was not running ?. Why did they wait so long do you think ?. What about that ridiculously large fine ?. Was it appropriate do you think ?. Or do you think it might have been – again – intended to damage his ability to campaign ?.’

          In fairness, I cannot say for sure what would’ve happened in a different reality – but I suspect so, yes.

          I’d say it very likely he would’ve still been charged in the documents case, and the Jan 6th cases. Maybe arguable in the NY case.

          I can’t defend every errancy of the US legal system. However the documents case didn’t happen until after he’d left office, the only delays there have largely been those employed by Trump, a habit of a lifetime. I think there’s a stronger case that he is running to avoid prosecution than being prosecuted because he’s running.

          The Jan 6th cases – Trump’s insurrection obviously took place at the fag end of his term, and it has been well established that a president could not be prosecuted while in office.

          The wheels of justice can grind slowly. I would’ve preferred he’d been arrested immediately after inauguration and prosecutors be much more robust in prosecuting him. Instead if anything he’s been given special treatment, a flaw of the US justice system when dealing with those with wealth and privilege and a difference to the office.

          The fine I assume you’re referring to is that of his civil case with E Jean Carroll? The fines he was given for repeatedly and flagrantly breaching his gag order in the New York hush money trial were trivially small.

          I don’t know if $350m in damages was out of the ordinary for such as case, how other cases compare etc
          The fines in US civil cases can often sound ridiculous. It can also be a bit ridiculous to sentence people to a life sentence plus a hundred+ years, but they’re not that unusual either.

          Again though, the great majority of that fine was of his own making by repeatedly defaming and lying about Carroll. Should be nothing for a self-declared billionaire though. Maybe Jared could lend him a few dollars.

          ‘We won’t even mention all the overturned attempts by Democrats to stop Trump even running. In a real democracy, they would have been sacked for abuse of power.’

          The US Constitution states that those who have engaged in insurrection are barred from office. It fails to provide guidance on how this should be established so opened it up to others to decide, such as the Colorado Supreme Court. The judges can’t be ‘sacked’. Political sacking of judges I don’t think would make a ‘real democracy’.

          ‘And you think it’s OK to put someone on the Supreme Court just for that reason do you ?. Can you not even see just how racist that is ?.’

          I didn’t comment on the rights or wrongs of it, but no, I do not think its racist. She isn’t on the court simply because she’s a black woman. There are 20million black women in the US.

          I’m a believer in colour-blindness in regard to race, but one can’t also ignore that justices and other high offices have been exclusively white men for a long time, and I’m ok with one being chosen in 2022 from a well qualified group if that provides representation. Republicans did not appear to object to her on this basis – not publicly anyway.

          ‘The point I made is how the BBC are quick enough to point out when Judges are Republicans (as they did here) when they don’t like the result of the vote but they don’t tell us anything if they are Democrats. They just pretend it’s due law and order.’

          If that’s your point, then you’re wrong. The court is ideologically split, its decisions reflect that. It has a conservative majority – this is the current reality. This is explained in the article.

          If it was liberal majority , and ruled – for example, that the 2nd amendment had been misread and did not support private gun ownership – you can be assured that if the vote was split on ideological grounds – it absolutely would be relevant and central to coverage. If you don’t accept that, I think you’re just not well informed on the subjects – either on the court or on journalism.

          You yourself stated you thought it was a political decision by the court.

          ‘Don’t you think it’s a concidence how the BBC suddenly see fit to start criticising the Supreme Court ?. Is that just chance as well ?.’

          I don’t see the BBC criticising the court in the article.

          ‘And when someone says they are convinced of something, it is their personal opinion. They don’t have to give evidence. Saying ‘without providing evidence’ is just repeating the same moronic line the BBC use when they don’t like something someone said.’

          “It’s clear to me…..beyond doubt….I am 100% convinced”

          That’s a little more than an opinion, You are 100% convinced on something you admittedly have no evidence for or cannot provide. If something is ‘clear’, it should be easy to demonstrate.

          I’m sorry to break it to you but Trump claims lots of things ‘without providing evidence’. This is a nice way of saying he’s lying through his teeth. You can tell this because his mouth is moving.

          ‘Your reply is just so weak on every level, I suggest you go somewhere where you won’t embarass yourself. Stick to HYS and maybe go look at Quora or Reddit where they have a lot of others like you who exist in groupthink where they are safe from being ridiculed.’

          I have never commented on HYS, Quora or Redditt. Accusing others of groupthink when you’re a denizen of this site – is more than a touch ironic. If you think you can ridicule me, go for it.

          You on the other hand appear to support Trump. That right away makes you deserving of ridicule.

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          • JohnC says:

            ‘You on the other hand appear to support Trump. That right away makes you deserving of ridicule.’

            We’ve leave it there. You are not worthy of my time.

            How old are you ?. 16 ?. Come back when you have any clue what you are talking about.

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  12. JohnC says:

    Biden blames jet lag and travel for poor debate performance
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4ngx67qle6o

    It’s clear now that BBC policy is for Biden to retire and someone else take over. And the reason is also clear : to stop Trump getting back in.
    So much for ‘unbiased’.

    They are doing it subtly like they always do (because they have to). But once they get an item on their agenda, it is like a hammer with some cloth tied around it. Thump, thump, thumb. Day after day.
    ( I noticed my typo but left it in as it reminds of when I am hammering 😂)

    The regular reader will realise that they have stopped unconditionally supporting him and lying by omission for everything against him. Their lack of any reports for years about his mental decline is absolutely laughable. Particularly as it has been so widely reported on the rest of the internet. Even now they won’t call it dementia or going senile, they have very clearly been instructed to simply relate it to ‘age’. The very last thing they want is for him to take a cognitive test. And it’s another whopping lie by omission that they haven’t even mentioned that he won’t take one when Trump did as it is basically proof he is senile.

    What always amuses me is how things like this crop up during these articles:
    ‘In his Tuesday statement, Rep Doggett, 77, said the debate solidified his decision to urge Mr Biden to step aside.’
    ‘”Instead of reassuring voters, the President failed to effectively defend his many accomplishments and expose Trump’s many lies,” said Rep Doggett’
    Who the hell is ‘Rep Doggett’ ?. Never heard of him.
    But of course the BBC have picked him because he says exactly what the BBC want to say – but it would expose their bias. This has become the BBC’s way of getting their agenda directly into the articles these days. It’s on my list as BBC ‘lies by quotation’.
    And he very kindly said exactly what has been driving the entire BBC narrative:
    ‘He said too much is at stake to risk the president losing to Trump over fears about his age.’
    Bingo. There it is. The rea

    Hang in there Joe you nasty old bugger. And if they force you out, make sure you get Kamala in as your replacement. Prove you didn’t just choose her as vice president because you are another left-wing racist.

    The other noteable thing about this article is how we have been observing at the BBC is how everyone else is far-right, but those on the Left are never identified as such:
    ‘Several have flocked to liberal-leaning network MSNBC to defend him.’
    I noticed that in the Judges articles as well : it seems this is another directive for the BBC clones : use ‘liberal’ instead of ‘Left’. As usual, it appears simultaneously across different articles – so it proves there is a BBC ‘political’ team continually manipulating the narratives and instructing staff to follow them. Known as ‘commissars’ in their socialist world.

    The BBC are certainly ramping up their political activism and working hard to cover it up with new tricks.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      JohnC
      I beg to differ on your approach . It is Obama who makes the decisions – who chose him – who chose karmela . He owns the msm enabling the dementia cover up – the unconditional support – the hatred of president trump – and of course the huge operation to steal and cover up the election . That was a magnificent piece of planning

      The same goes for the control of the federal agencies enabling rolling law suits used as a secondary weapon to destroy trump and his support

      Obamas weakness is he hasn’t had president trump killed – yet . Yes I mean murdered .

      But now that the msm has been given permission to question the viability of Biden – Obama has a time problem in deciding on a replacement and continuing to erode the standing of President Trump –
      It maybe more difficult to control the factions of the democrats as well as ensuring that a compliant candidate is in place by the end of July ….

      That’s why I reckon Mrs Obama is a good bet – and since it gives Barack an excuse to ‘return ‘ and endorse his wife it’s surely a win win for him . However – I’m not sure just how much Barack is ‘revered ‘ – is he a JFK ? Or did Americans have enough of him ?

      I assume the mechanisms for fixing the vote are still in place so there’ll be no question of president trump being cheated again ..

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      • Peter Grimes says:

        “ Obamas weakness is he hasn’t had president trump killed – yes . Yes I mean murdered .”

        Some question whether Lee Harvey Oswald really was JFK’s killer.

        Big Mike O’Bama is sure to be the replacement.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Yes the jfk thing is a constant distraction from current day issues … and really should be filed under ‘channel 5’…

          If president trump was killed – would the msm find ‘the truth ‘ ? The most likely method would be injecting cancer or a heart attack / stroke to ensure a never ending ambiguity …. public slaughter might have unintended consequences …

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          • JohnC says:

            I’ve wondered that Fed and I’m quite certain they will treat it like they did Jan 06.

            When the protestors take to the streets, they will be called insurrectionists and quickly jailed without bail. You can be sure they covertly have the Army on standby before they do it.

            The bit which really bothers me is that I am 100% certain that the BBC and the MSM will go along with whatever fake cover story they put out and label anything else as a conspiracy theory.

            When you have their kind of power, dissenters who cannot be suppressed will disappear and it won’t be reported.

            This was unimaginable to me in the past – but now I see them for what they are.

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      • JohnC says:

        Fair enough Fed, but in response I’ll pick a bit of yours:

        ‘That was a magnificent piece of planning’
        I would say
        ‘That was a magnificent piece of suppression.’

        The genius part was how they got the entire MSM to add the phrase ‘Trump falsely claimed ..’ to everything without them possibly being able to prove it was false.

        It takes a special kind of ethic for a news organisation to do that.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          JohnC
          I admire what Obama did – I can only imagine the level of collusion and confidentiality involved – especially with the cover up . Everyone must have been ‘hand picked ‘ to do it and remain silent .

          I do find it hard to believe that the msm – usually amoral and always after the ‘edge ‘ unified into one uncritical view with no dissent at all …
          But then we punters are told we live in a democracy and there are ‘freedoms ‘- even a country with a solid constitution can be subverted using the very State itself …
          Ours – of course – as we are about the see – is far easier to subvert – we – after all – have 77 brigade ( morning guys and gals )

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          • JohnC says:

            Just imagine the level of confidence he has in the support of the MSM. It would have totally destroyed everything if they didn’t play ball and blew the whole thing wide open.

            But none of them did. They all sang from exactly the same hymn sheet. That is the truly amazing thing.

            Except Tucker Carlson – and they made him an object of hate. And just by chance he has been completely removed from the MSM ‘system’. But he refuses to be quiet : I am surprised they haven’t found something to jail him for like they did Belfield.

               10 likes

  13. JohnC says:

    Ed Sheeran backed by ex-police detective over ‘lawless London’ claims: ‘It’s never been in a worse state!’
    https://www.gbnews.com/news/ed-sheeran-backed-lawless-london-claims-police-detective

    The BBC will never go near stories like this, but for me it sums up perfectly the gulf between the Leftists ideology and the real world.

    London is basically what happens when the liberal multiculturalist agenda is pushed because of ideological theory. It received everything : special rules for non-whites, no racial profiling for stop-and-search or anything else despite statisical evidence of who is committing the crimes and we even have special rules for the media not to report anything negative against any minority – whatever they do.

    And despite all these ‘special’ advantages to appease them, have these groups said ‘you know what, I like this culture and I think I will change myself to fit in.’ ?.
    Nope. They have done EXACTLY what the people they originate from do. They see it as something to be taken advantage of and get even worse. They turn the streets into our own version of various other shitholes around the world.
    And what is the response of the Left to this ?. They just label anyone who points it out as ‘racists’ and attempt to suppress their opinions. Aka fascism.
    This principle of ideology-over-reality is why they destroy everything they try to change. It’s even worse over in the USA now.
    GBNews are a bit naughty in that article with a line more worthy of the BBC:
    ‘Detective Peter Bleksley admitted that although Sheeran is right in his claims, he joked that it “makes him sick to his stomach” to be siding with the pop star.’
    What he actually said is:
    “It sickens me to the very pit of my stomach to say that Ed Sheeran is right.”
    Not the same at all GB News.

    I’ve noticed a few times that GB News depends 100% on the character of it’s presenters to keep flying the flag. I get the very distinct impression that many of those behind the scenes are from the mainstream media and are just working there because they need a job – but are lefties at heart.

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  14. Fedup2 says:

    Quiz Question

    The President of the USA had a bad debate because –

    A he had a cold
    B he had jet lag
    C he just had a bad night
    D he had a good debate he ‘answered all the questions ‘*
    E none of the above .. it was because he has dexxxtia

    * he got more ‘supporters ‘ because of his performance …

       18 likes

  15. Fedup2 says:

    I had to sell my car because of the emirs ‘ ULEZ .it was a nice little diesel . Now I find out that the emir is to include electric cars in the ULEZ . I was thinking of buying one . But maybe he has a false agenda about cars .
    Future looks awful .

       28 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Fed:

      You should have invested in a new set of number plates. It seems to work for members of the Welsh pretend parliament. But use better glue than she did.

         4 likes

  16. JohnC says:

    ‘I am not a church boy’: RFK Jr responds to sex assault allegation
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6p27evjz49o

    An allegation suddenly coming up from THIRTY years ago.

    Good God. Is there no lower limit to how dirty the Left – with full support of the BBC – are prepared to go to discredit their opponents ?.

    Once again they repeat claims by somebody else without any other evidence whatsoever. This time it is ‘Vanity Fair’ magazine whose webiste has two main headlines : One about Trump asking ‘How do we avert disaster’ and another trashing Kennedy.

    It’s gutter press of the highest level and the BBC see fit to use their own multi-billion resources (paid for through taxing the public) to give it a bigger audience.

    This must be the dirtiest political campaign by the Democrats in human history. The Nazis truly are back : they have no ethics whatsoever.

       20 likes

    • Peter Grimes says:

      I Guggled RFK because of this and amongst others, went to the Wiki page,something I rarely do because of Wiki’s Leftoid stance. I noticed that at the bottom of his page was a recording of his voice.

      Being suspicious, I wondered if this was new and if it is nowadays provided to facilitate AI impersonation.

      The wonders of tech, all for the benefit of….?

         9 likes

      • JohnC says:

        Like everything else Peter, you can be sure AI fakery will only be wrong to the Left when other people do it.
        Same as internet trolling.

           9 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The MSM scum seem to think we buy their lies, then they wonder why their circulation is going down the toilet.

         3 likes

    • Kikuchiyo says:

      RFK JR discredits himself everything he opens his mouth.

         1 likes

  17. andyjsnape says:

    bbc webshite:-

    Chris Mason: We stand on the threshold of a landmark election

    Then shows images at the top of the page of only Keir and Sunak

    Vote Reform

       33 likes

    • JohnC says:

      They do have ONE article about Reform on the election page. And it’s no surprise what it is:
      ‘Second candidate defects from Reform UK to Tories’

      ‘A Reform UK candidate has suspended her campaign and defected to the Conservatives because the “vast majority” of her fellow candidates are “racist, misogynistic and bigoted”.’

      How nice of the Tories to accept ‘Georgie David’ but one wonders why she left it to such a critical moment.

      But the BBC don’t care about that : they are part of the dirty tricks campaign themselves. As this headline proves.

      Another story to simultaneously appear on dozens of news websites. What are the chances of that ?. Almost like it is coordinated …

         23 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        She was probably a ‘sleeper’, put in there to try and make things difficult for Reform! She was only chosen a few weeks ago, so how she’s managed to get around the whole country in that time, well’, that’s awful lot of beeboid money spent on trains and hotels!

        Are they all staunch Tories there, y’know, the really aristocratic wealthy elite, ready to create jobs, build businesses, farming etc?

        Publicity stunt by the Tories, and another one to remember when they whinge and whine after tomorrow.

           14 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Chris Mason looks like the sort of child who was bullied at school. He’s getting his own back now.

         4 likes

  18. JohnC says:

    Ex-officials say Gaza policy has put US at risk
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c725wxky293o

    ‘The policies have further destabilised the region and “put a target on America’s back”, they say in a joint statement.’

    ‘The former officials accuse the US government of clinging to a “failed policy” that has not only been devastating for the Palestinian people but has endangered Israelis, stifled free speech and undermined US credibility over its commitment to a rules-based international order.’

    Amazing how the opinion of just a few gets to be the main story if it’s in line with the far-left BBC agenda.

    What the BBC are ACTUALLY doing here – and have basically been saying all along – is saying that the kind of barbaric terrorism by Hamas is an acceptable way to get what you want and the USA are wrong to react like this in the fight to eradicate them.

    There is no counter-argument that terrorism must be fought with zero tolerance to show others what happens if you do it.

    It’s an absolutely appalling article.

    I wonder if ‘Tom Bateman’ who wrote it thought of it himself or was instructed to come up with the article by the BBC commissars in charge.

       19 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Islamic terrorist put targets on Islamic followers around the world – breaking news.

      …………..

      “What’s the solution? If Muslim people are in the wrong and they are committing crimes… you know, no one is above the law.” – Stacey Dooley
      “If the law of the land is Islamic, we will respect the law of the land. If it’s not Islamic (the law) then the law of the land, and those who make them, can go to hell quite honestly.” – Anjhem Chordary
      “Oh my God!” – Stacey Dooley
      “Because Allah says in the Koran Q33v1 ‘Fear Allah, and do not obey the disbelievers and the hypocrites. Is David Cameron a Muslim of a disbeliever? Guys?” – Anjhem Chordary
      “Disbeliever!” – mumbles crowd of 5 other Muslims
      “So you (a Muslim) can’t obey him. So he (David Cameron) can go to hell.” – Anjhem Chordary

         8 likes

  19. MarkyMark says:

    Boris says he will talk for 30 minutes for 1 million pounds – “Boris Johnson wins huge majority on promise to ‘get Brexit done'”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/13/bombastic-boris-johnson-wins-huge-majority-on-promise-to-get-brexit-done

    He addressed the nation just after 7am in London, saying Brexit was now the “irrefutable, irresistible, unarguable decision of the British people” and promising those who lent their vote to the Tories in traditional Labour areas: “I will not let you down.”

    “I will not let you down.”
    “I will not let you down.”
    “I will not let you down.”

    Boris Johnson received £276,130 plus expenses for US speech
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/17/boris-johnson-received-276130-plus-expenses-for-us-speech

       7 likes

  20. Guest Who says:

    The national broadcaster of the U.K.

    https://x.com/bbcnews/status/1808378827590033585?s=61
    Family’s lost cat found after five years

    And their spawn.

    https://x.com/thenewsagents/status/1808380158837203419?s=61
    A focus group was asked which animal Rishi Sunak reminds them of.

       8 likes

  21. MarkyMark says:

    If Conservatives move to Reform Party does that mean the Conservatives were always a Nazi Party?

    HA HA HA HAH AHA!

       9 likes

  22. Flotsam says:

    Reform election candidate defectors
    I notice Richard Tice is accusing the Tories of planting their people as Reform election candidates. Exactly what I said yesterday.

       21 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      Sorry Flotsam, I posted something similar above before seeing your comment, and yesterday’s for that matter!

      So we’re both right, but try and keep up, Scrobs!

         8 likes

  23. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning Emole
    Why this will be a landmark election

    Not ‘historic’ or ‘unprecedented’?

    The only notable thing will be the number of broken ankles in W1A Friday morning.

    Meanwhile no one in our shire gives a rat’s pitootie for any of them.

    I am still debating not turning up for the first time ever. There is no one worth voting for.

       12 likes

    • Mrs Kitty says:

      Dear GW. They take no notice of people who don’t vote, they do have to count people who spoil their ballot papers. A black marker pen and “none of the above” works as does a drawing of a pile of cow dung..

         11 likes

    • taffman says:

      Guest Who
      Go Reform !

         17 likes

  24. andyjsnape says:

    Hospital bomb plotter guilty of terror charge
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ngx3341ldo

    Buried under Local News, West Yorkshire

    This would have been national headlines only a few years ago

    Luckily this time he was caught, who knows when the next one is in waiting

       17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Do you notice that there is neither ‘coverage ‘ of this case – this Islamic vermin – nor anything about him ? I mean – he wanted to blow up a hospital – did he lack the imaginative horror of killing babies in maternity ? Or a primary school ?

      Who was he ? Was he ‘British ? Family ? What are they ?how much benefits ? Why isn’t he dead ?

         16 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      782b6f20-387b-11ef-8a0a-5d92815c72ec.jpg.webp

         10 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      As I said last night
      The key thing is the BBC #LyingByOmission
      The police said there was a large anti-Semitic motivation.
      .. https://biasedbbc.tv/blog/2024/06/30/start-the-week-1st-july-2024/comment-page-3/#comment-1297424

      It’s the nature of this site that info gets lost when there is a thread changeover.
      I’d always encourage morning people to begin by having a glance at the last page of the old thread
      yesterday’s last page

         4 likes

    • JohnC says:

      I sometimes listen to recording of Mark and Lard from the 90’s and what strikes me is how many reports there are in ‘newsbeat’ about terrorists and what they have done or were plotting.

      Those stories disappeared entirely. Did the terrorists just give up or is it simply not reported ?.

      Answers on a postcard … you don;t see that any more either :-).

         10 likes

  25. AsISeeIt says:

    The formerly serious Times this morning obliges Mr AsI in his quest for what he terms those amusing little awkward juxtapositions of headlines

    Johnson: Big Labour win is pregnant with horrors (Times)

    Meanwhile: Everything I know about sperm donors by Sophia Money-Coutts (Times)

    Murray pulls out (Times)

    Just me, or do we suspect someone at the Times knew what they were doing there?

    Murray upset – but will play with brother (Telegraph)

    What is it that’s so suggestive about the game of tennis?

    Can tennis be sexy? Our writer makes Andy Murray laugh.. Yes, really! (giveaway Metro) – this reviewer is no fan of the dure Scot Mr Murray. As an Englishman, one tends to support anyone but Murray. More to the point – can tennis avoid being sexy?

    Perhaps it’s the grunting? The mixed doubles? Or the outfits?

    Should I wear shorts to work? – asks the formerly serious Times – this in reference to women’s fashion of course.

    There is something about women’s’tennis outfits – like those late lamented nurses’ uniforms – something ineffable, if you’ll excuse the term. Then again, women’s tennis has a reputation for being somewhat of a preserve for those quaint ladies who… how shall we say… serve to the opposite court?

    What straight men can learn form gay women by Kate Lister (‘i’) – calm down dear

    The Labour-supporting heart-on-sleeve wearing Mirror gushes over their man – deploying the somewhat dodgy analogy of English international football

    Is it coming home?… 14 years of hurt… Never stopped us dreaming… Keir Starmer yesterday vowed to give Britain hope… (Daily Mirror)

    The Financial Times recognises a like-minded technocratic globalist when they see one: ‘Brilliant’ barrister Starmer awaits verdict of a nation (FT)

    Mind you, you might say the FT simply sees what way the wind is blowing and takes the appropriate fiduciary precautions: Rich offload assets as concerns mount over Labour’s capital gains tax agenda (FT)

    We’re accustomed to the wrong type of snow… but the wrong type of election?

    Royal Mail blames snap poll for postal delays (Telegraph)

    Our Guardianista-types, as we’ve come to expect, deploy the arts and literature with which to deliver their political messaging: ‘Here comes the sun’ Zadie Smith on the end of Tory rule (Guardian)

    Certain of our chateratti class have forged a veritable career out of Trump and Brexit bashing: Emily Maitlis In Trump’s Kingdom, America no longer knows what is right and wrong (‘i’) – take a deep breath and let it go, luv

    The mildly conservative Telegraph occasionally hits the nail on the head: Madeline Grant It’s immigration stupid: what the election is really about – well said, madam.

    Pro-immigration forces about to go medieval on our ass?

    Now for a welcome debut in this review hereabouts for English Heritage Members’ Magazine, Summer 2024 – where the front cover carries a wonderful panoramic photograph of Dover castle and pictured in the foreground a black chap with the rather awkwardly juxtaposed and suggestive headline: Storm the gates

       16 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Yes – starmer wins the election. – 200 majority – a new day has dawned – England win the euros – inflation and interesr rates fall – the dinghies give up – a new Camelot has been born … all is right in the pleasant land …..

      Then you realise who the deputy PM , home sec , foreign sec , Jess Phillips is …. Aaaarrrggghh

         18 likes

  26. JohnC says:

    Giant anti-government protest rally grips Tel Aviv
    https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c722pyj1zm1o

    BBC: ‘Tens of thousands of Israelis have protested in Tel Aviv demanding a Gaza ceasefire deal and the return of hostages held by Hamas.’

    Times Of Israel: ‘Tens of thousands of Israelis in dozens of locals participated in anti-government protests on Saturday night, demanding new elections and the return of hostages held in Gaza.’

    Arab news: ‘Tens of thousands of protesters waving Israeli flags and chanting slogans against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government rallied in Tel Aviv Saturday, demanding new elections and the return of hostages held in Gaza.’

    Reading around, it’s clear the prime reason for these protests is to try and force an election. Not demand a ceasefire. Oh dear BBC. Seems like you have made a slight edit in favour of the house again. Nobody else mentions they demand a ceasefire deal : did you just add it yourself ?.

       13 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Hamas have ran out of rockets? If not where are they storing them?
      Under the NHS beds?

         9 likes

      • JohnC says:

        Most likely a sign that Israel’s war is working.

        The BBC will NEVER admit that.

           6 likes

  27. Guest Who says:

    How it started.

    https://x.com/guardiannews/status/1808364437881213103?s=61
    Welsh government commits to making lying in politics illegal

    How it is g… went.

    https://x.com/anon05136448000/status/1808395422022369729?s=61

    https://x.com/walesonline/status/1808389460008079682?s=61
    Plans for a ‘historic’ new law which would have made it a criminal offence for politicians in Wales to lie has been shelved – for now shorturl.at/9RnLn

    So… more ‘unprecedented’?

       11 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      HOW WE SPEND YOUR MONEY IS “unlawfully intrusive” HA HA HA HA HA HA !

      A February 2008 Freedom of Information Act request for the release of details of MPs’ expense claims was allowed by an Information Tribunal and was challenged by the House of Commons Authorities on the grounds that it was “unlawfully intrusive”.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_parliamentary_expenses_scandal

         4 likes

    • JohnC says:

      lol – that’s along the lines of how I wonder why – if someone accuses someone else of anything – and they are found innocent in a court of law, the accuser is not immediately declared guilty of defamation/slander and punished accordingly.

         3 likes

  28. andyjsnape says:

    bbc/msm still keeps reporting labour gaining votes and conservatives loosing votes

    I so hope with my vote and others that Reform make massive gains, and are the future for the following general election

    Although can only imagine the negative “reporting” from the likes of the bbc if Reform make these gains

       17 likes

  29. Sluff says:

    I know it’s been previously reported but I can’t get out of my mind the wonderful thought that if the 200,000 Glastonbury crowd were so keen to hear a speaker talk about mass open door immigration, then why did the organisers need to build miles of 10 feet high metal barriers around the festival site to keep out people who had no right to be there?

       22 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      As well as the Super Fortress Fence, we also supply the festival with almost 20km of temporary roadways, 14km of additional fencing, eight bridges, crowd control barriers and pedestrian walkways. This vital equipment ensures the organisers, contractors, security and festival goers can move around the site safely.

      https://www.sunbeltrentals.co.uk/case-studies/glastonbury/

      festival goers can move around the site safely
      festival goers can move around the site safely
      festival goers can move around the site safely

         11 likes

      • tomo says:

        Glastonbury festival has only avoided a deadly crowd crush by sheer happenchance.

        You can take that to the bank.

           4 likes

    • Sluff says:

      I might have added that all those thousands of save the planet green eco warrior types at Glastonbury……….errrrr………..left thousands of tonnes of plastic waste, tents, blow-up mattresses and general detritus to be cleared up by others.

      As any mountain walker knows, what you take on to the mountain you take off the mountain. You do not leave anything. Clearly not an essential for your average woke right-on festival goer.

         20 likes

      • Docmarooned says:

        Not sure about that nowadays Sluff. Everest today looks like a landfill site given the recent shots I have seen.

           7 likes

  30. MarkyMark says:

    DIVERSITY OF OUR .. oh wait …

    “Syrians attack Turkish troops after anti-migrant riots

    00:37
    Syrians attack Turkish troops after anti-migrant riots
    Close
    Turkey is reported to have closed its main border crossings into northwest Syria after its troops were attacked by Syrians angered by violence against their countrymen in Turkey.

    Turkish police had earlier announced the arrest of nearly 500 people following attacks on Syrian properties and vehicles in several Turkish cities.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cv2g917x2p1o

       9 likes

  31. Jeff says:

    So, it’s the last day of campaigning and I’m sitting here with my morning cuppa, wondering just what half-witted shenanigans Ed Davey is going to get up to. What else can this idiot possibly do?

    He’s fallen off surfboards, toppled out of canoes, his podgy carcass has plopped down a water chute and done a bungee jump…and now, on the last day, his piece de resistance…

    Mr Ed has done everything he possibly can to avoid any awkward questions about his involvement in the appalling post office scandal…and the useless bloody media, to their shame have, by and large, allowed him to get away with it.

    This useless lump will lead a parliamentary party with perhaps 50 plus seats. He’s faced little to no scrutiny. “Oh, it’s the cuddly Lib-Dems… they’re harmless.”

    While Reform have been harassed and hounded, Nigel Farage milk-shaked and had rocks lobbed at him, their canvassers covertly filmed by sleazy “journalists”, Mr Ed and his henchmen have been given a free ride.

    Where is the scrutiny? Where are the tough questions? “Ooh, look it’s Ed. He’s trying to ride a unicycle while juggling. What a card.”

    Actually, I’d give dodgy Ed a free ride

    A very long one off a short pier…

       28 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Bollocks to Brexit!

         5 likes

    • Sluff says:

      Does anyone, ANYONE actually know what the LibDems stand for?
      They are still campaigning against the Tories. And getting a free ride. But the Tories are already toast, so what’s the game? Cosying up to Labour? Will Labour want to be cosied up to? Plotting to rejoin the saintly EU with SirKeer? Setting up a cosy deal for proportional representation? Do they agree with HS2? Apparently. Yet they won a bi-election in Bucks campaigning against it!

      A worse bunch of incoherent chancers it is hard to imagine. Yet Tory voters apparently are going to vote Lib Dem? FFS. So why are the useless Tories not campaigning against them? A complete s***fest.

         18 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        They’ll rock up to Strummer and Crayons by the weekend!

        I’ve got a similar feeling to that of Binns Minor in the Jennings stories.

        The boy was selling fossils at their school fete, and they were just big pebbles. When asked why he knew they were fossils, he explained that if he looks at them in a funny way, something tells him that there’s a fossil inside!

        That’s absolutely true, I promise you, ‘wizard prang’!

           7 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Sluff .. er … is it free bungee jumping for under 10s?

           4 likes

      • tomo says:

        know what the LibDems stand for?

        If present candidates in this neck of the woods is is any measure – entitled busybodies with zero common sense and the occasional entitled bloke in a wig and lipstick,

        That said , the last LibDem MP here was actually diligent and competent if a bit soppy.

           4 likes

        • JohnC says:

          The only thing I know for sure is that the ‘Dem’ part does not stand for ‘Democrats’.

          They are just more intolerant Lefty hypocrites. The Liberals are the real nasty ones : far-Left who keep their feeling of hate suppressed and are mild-mannered, softly-spoken quiet people until they lose their temper. Then their true character comes out. Proper Jekyll and Hydes.

          As I saw our sandal-wearing teacher Mr Brown demonstrate in primary school when he picked Dave up by the scruff of the neck and belt then threw him across a table and off the other side.
          Dave was chewing gum and continued to chew it while Mr Brown was telling him off.

          A lesson I never forgot. And one which has been reinforced many times.

             8 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Wait until you see what Sopes and chums have to say.

        https://x.com/jonsopel/status/1808433024003903903?s=61

        Does seem currently rather singularly focussed mind.

           2 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I’m hoping he’ll try sword swallowing next.

         6 likes

  32. StewGreen says:

    BBC Radio Humberside the presenter is talking excitedly to Jeremy Vine about staying up all night to listen to BBC election coverage.

    That’s their libmob bubble world
    To me such stuff is childish and boring .. I can wait until the final results are done.

    Now the programme is on to poor transgender darts player
    I guess a man who plays in the women’s division
    So still has some testosterone advantages.

    I checked the progs tweets to see what the public think
    But it’s clear few listen

    BBC management are you not bothered that you only serve the two-tier justice people ?
    The progs own introduction tweet has just 2 Likes.
    . .. https://x.com/Kofi_Smiles/status/1808380824837902553

       13 likes

    • tomo says:

      Poeple are zoning out local media BBC Local Radio and trad local rags are zombies – no ad revenue, no audience.

      Out of the dozens of DAB stations available – I cannot list to one for more than a few minutes – asinine f-wits and muzak are not an attractive recipe.

      I might be simply a grump 🙂

         7 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      The BBC’s propaganda outlets are dying in audience terms on their uniquely funded feet.

      https://x.com/bbcr4today/status/1808422017164574753?s=61

      1 comment per 15 minutes.

      On top of the utter idiocy of the question.

      “A Welsh Labour MP could well end up in the Cabinet. Why would that be less of a voice for Wales… than a Plaid Cymru MP at Westminster?”

      Or, indeed, Galloway?

         4 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Man in woman’s darts has competitive wrist action?

         4 likes

  33. MarkyMark says:

    “The Reform phenomenon was predictable, avoidable and is entirely our own fault. This simple fact seems to be lost on my colleagues who have driven our party’s bus off the side of the cliff, while angrily blaming those of us who kept pointing at the obvious signs saying: “Cliff Edge Dead Ahead, Bad for Buses”.”

    order-order.com

    …………………………………………………………………

    BORIS WAS GIVEN EVERYTHING.

    Brexit party will not contest 317 Tory-won seats, Farage says
    This article is more than 4 years old
    Party leader announces election climbdown in effort to avoid splitting leave vote
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/11/brexit-party-will-not-contest-317-tory-seats-nigel-farage-says

       7 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Marky – I take it that is a braverman quote . I reckon Mrs nut nut imported some of her socialist friends into key roles in Tory HQ and the rest is a woke history of failure and extinction . She must be very pleased and will probably pump out another johnsonovich to celebrate …

         5 likes

  34. MarkyMark says:

    We are all Equal

    be07e087-26fe-4fb8-9a7d-0fa9f7cb1af8-ef70e34b-06ab-4453-99db-7eaa947d0880

       28 likes

  35. MarkyMark says:

    There are two approaches to politics:

    The ‘Divine Right of Kings’, Top down, Expert led vision where the politicians have a conviction and ‘persuade’ the electorate to alter their thinking to match the political ideal. Favoured in the continental, marxist and WEF worlds. The people live by the permission of their superiors. Promoted by current Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem and Green parties alike. Democrats in the US.

    The ‘Wisdom of crowds’, populist or Darwinian system where a consensus is divined from the public and the political group who most closely matches this gains the most support. Favoured in the Anglo Saxon and Nordic traditions. The politicians have power by the consent of the people. Reform, SDP and other minor parties in the UK, Republicans in the US.

    Reform isn’t doing well because it has persuaded people to follow their vision. It is popular because they have, by luck, common sense or research presented a vision reflecting what people want.

    from order-order.com

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  36. Sluff says:

    The unceasing anti Tory BBC tirade continued last night with a lament for the NHS. Of course, covid lockdowns and endless Doctors’ strikes and 650,000 population increase through mass immigration have had no effect whatever on waiting list times.
    The whinge was for the inability to get to see a GP. Well, we can all understand that. The featured whinger was a grossly obese woman. The article then shifted to a GP. Who was also a grossly obese woman.
    Was this a sort of black joke from the BBC? Are the editorial team clever enough? The obvious unspoken takeaway message was that people should be taking some level of personal responsibility for their health. But that concept is usually anathema to the collectivist BBC because it’s all the fault of the evil Tories, right?
    Talk about confusing messaging.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Excellent post, Sluff.

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    • Lunchtime Loather says:

      It remains to be seen who the Welsh Labour government will now blame for their shortcomings with NHS(Wales). Up until now it has always been “The Westminster Tories don’t give us enough money”.

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  37. Guest Who says:

    Amol’s old rag, I see.

    https://x.com/ascendedyield/status/1808214510093980065?s=61
    Young, ethnic minority Britons ‘planning to quit UK’ over money worries and racism

    #CCBGB

       10 likes

    • Sluff says:

      Try as I might I just cannot remember Kylie Minogue’s first big hit record.

         6 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Luckily…

      https://pressreleases.responsesource.com/news/105554/lack-of-engineers-and-ineffective-workforce-management-contributing-to-ageing/

      Now Labour will be in charge, thousands of experienced water worker engineers to replace any who may have drowned.

         4 likes

    • Kaiser says:

      ““I can’t afford to live in London anymore,” she added. “I cannot live where I grew up and that’s annoying me. I have to go very, very far out.

      “I see that a lot of Londoners are moving to place like the Midlands and then that’s displacing people in the Midlands, because the rents are going up; so we’re being displaced ”

      karma lmao

      Folu said: “If there’s one key issue that’s making me want to leave the country, it’s the level of racism.

      “It became visual when we had the Brexit referendum and then it became as clear as day when the George Floyd, Black Lives Matter incident happened,” he said.

      so when we voted to let less white europeans in and
      some black saint died in that well known english shire of Minneapolis !!!

      come on is that the best you can come up with

      Pointing to the Rwanda Bill, he said migrants are “villified” in the UK (note spelling)

      seems to have forgotten the word “illegal” but if your definition of vilified is a 4 star hotel I have to wonder what your expectations are.

         10 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Back to Afghanistan to fight the Taliban instead of Rishi?

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Young, ethnic minority Britons ‘planning to quit UK’ over money worries and racism

      Cheerio then.

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  38. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – have the BBC helped to undermine the Labour Party ‘SuperMajority’?

    The BBC love an opportunity to attack the Conservative Party. Rishi Sunak appeared to have handed the BBC and its Leftist-leaning comrades another opportunity to go on the offensive against the Tories. Rishi Sunak, no doubt speaking from over two years experience of being Prime Minister said you cannot always go off duty at 6 p.m. on a Friday night as the sucker in charge of the Labour Party said as recently as yesterday.

    The revelation that Sir Keir Starmer’s wife is Jewish might just cost Labour lots of pro-Palestinian youth votes and also the votes of Islamic Labour voters. Oooops! If that is not bad enough, the question in many Jewish minds as in mine will be “Is Sir Keir’s wife, Victoria, an observant Jewess” in that does she hold to the full tenets of the Jewish faith? Apparently not but I only have Wiki to inform me there. That may cost Labour more votes because not only the pro-Palestinian voters will be less inclined to vote for the Labour Party but many fully observant Jews including the Orthodox Jewish voters may be less inclined to vote for Labour now.

    I hope the BBC keep up this line of attack for all of this day’s news broadcasts.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Good analysis Snuffy. I wasnt aware that Lady S is jewish, so it makes sense what hubby said about Fridays.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Brissles, except that in winter Shabat may start as early as 4pm so the sucker in charge of the Labour Party doesn’t know his Judaism from his Jerusalem. Aacchh, he’s only a ‘liberal’ anyway!

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    • tomo says:

      That may cost Labour more votes because not only the pro-Palestinian voters will be less inclined to vote for the Labour Party but many fully observant Jews including the Orthodox Jewish voters may be less inclined to vote for Labour now.

      =win-win

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    • Deborah says:

      I think I read in the Jewish Chronicle that 60% of the Jewish Community (population 250,000 and traditionally left leaning), are likely to vote Conservative rather than the Muslim courting Labour Party.

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  39. MarkyMark says:

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  40. tomo says:

    Quite sensible chap

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    • JohnC says:

      It’s been obvious from the start that the cost of owning an electric vehicle would be increased through tax etc to match what it costs to run a ICE car.

      They know what people will accept to pay for having a car so they will raise the price accordingly.

      They did it with petrol : the price went up and up until protests started. Then it came down just a bit and has always stayed within that ballpark whatever the cost of oil.

         14 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Might just keep my Volvo a few hundred k more.

         8 likes

    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Sadiq Khan’s C40 Cities — “Ambitious target in 2030 = zero private vehicles”

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      https://www.c40knowledgehub.org/s/article/The-future-of-urban-consumption-in-a-1-5-C-world?language=en_US

         5 likes

      • tomo says:

        F Khant

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      • MarkyMark says:

        The typical life span of a wind turbine is 20 years, with routine maintenance required every six months. Wind turbine power output is variable due to the fluctuation in wind speed; however, when coupled with an energy storage device, wind power can provide a steady power output.

           6 likes

      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Politician, rope, lamp post.

        Some assembly required.

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  41. JohnC says:

    The BBC are simply relentless in their bias.

    How do they report Boris Johnsons speech ? – in this outrageous ‘live update’ feed which basically 100% Labour proaganda !.

    ‘Starmer dismisses Boris Johnson’s surprise speech’
    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c7204p2r0dkt

    ‘Sir Keir Starmer says he’s “not worried in the slightest” by Boris Johnson’s intervention last night.’
    ‘He described Johnson as “Exhibit A” of the argument that Labour has been making, that the Tories are chaotic and divided.’

    And the place I got it from is just repeating what they already reported further down the article. They are just keeping it up at the top.

    Other ‘headlines’ are:
    ‘It is not normal for a politician to concede defeat’
    (Some Tory said that Labour would win and the BBC have suddenly given him his 15 minutes of fame)

    ‘Labour tout their wares on branded Welsh cakes’
    A feel good piece promoting Labour.

    ‘Starmer says voters still need convincing despite buoyant mood’

    ”Turn the page and start to rebuild with Labour’ – Starmer’

    ‘Starmer says Labour government would make a difference in Wales’
    With a lovely picture of lovely Starmer smiling and happy.

    ‘Gordon Brown attacks Reform UK ahead of polling day’
    Jesus H Christ – do the BBC not know how little respect Brown has ?.

    ”Change will only come if people vote for it’ – McFadden’
    Pro-Labour soapbox again.

    ‘It’s not standard practice to concede defeat on election eve’
    The same story as above : for some reason the BBC are running this again and again.

    ”We need to hold Labour to account after 14 damaging Conservative years”

    I stopped there. It goes on and on. This is their last chance : they can’t report anything tomorrow.

    It’s outrageous abuse of power and pure election interference by the BBC.

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    • Guest Who says:

      As mentioned here, a significant aspect is their editorial smoke and mirrors. Beyond the actual public engagement globally.

      https://x.com/bbcworld/status/1808302273014984793?
      A Bugatti car, a first lady and the fake stories aimed at Americans

      I will only be able to establish confirmed facts, and even then, BBC versions, by clicking on.

      Watch this space….

         3 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The bluffer is very out of touch. He seems to think that boasting about Astra Zeneca’s clot shots will win votes. What a tosseur.

      Try getting a “safe and effective” AZ shot anywhere now. You can’t. They were so “safe and effective” they were withdrawn.

      Boris needs to STFU and count his money.

         10 likes

  42. Terminal Moraine says:

    BBC plus other media are on the attack: “‘I am not a church boy’: RFK Jr responds to sex assault allegation”.

    The charges are: 1) he once groped a babysitter and 2) joked with a friend about eating dog in Korea (a pic of him eating a BBQ’d carcass has emerged, which he says was actually goat in South America). The Vanity Fair hack who interviewed him said the photo showed RFK was “simultaneously mocking Korean culture, reveling in animal cruelty, and needlessly risking his reputation and that of his family”.

    That’s the best they can do. A mountain of dodgy evidence on Biden including taking showers with his own daughter, but this is what outrages the liberal media.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6p27evjz49o

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  43. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    What’s the problem with Die Stuermer knocking off at 6 on Fridays.
    We’ve got Angie who can take over until 9 am on Mondays.

    We should be so lucky (Sluff)

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  44. MarkyMark says:

    Boris Johnson joins campaign in last-ditch effort to thwart Labour

    Boris Johnson praises Peppa Pig in bizarre CBI speech

    …………………………………………………………………………………

    The evacuation of more than 15,000 people whose lives were endangered by the Taliban’s capture of Kabul was “heroic” and “colossal”, he said. It was “one of the outstanding military achievements of the last 50 years”.24 May 2022

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-48224793

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I think the theory that Tory hq was taken over by labour has some merit . For instance – what thought process would there have been to deploy Johnson – apart from reminding people of a dolt who blew an 80 majority and engineered a big red majority ?

      God knows what history is going to make of that dolt .

         15 likes

  45. Guest Who says:

    In the spirit of listening to all voices.

    https://x.com/tiffy201/status/1808191836101505389?s=61

    Albeit rather frenetic.

    One for #bbcverify … spoof… they might go near if it serves the cause?

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  46. Guest Who says:

    Ok, it’s The Fail, but 2 comments in half an hour?

    https://x.com/mailonline/status/1808461573058359336?s=61
    China rehearses assault on US stealth fighter bases: Beijing military stages attacks on F-35 and F-22 jets as it looks to deter American intervention in Taiwan trib.al/8SXqLoP

    And they are flogging t shirts.

       5 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Most provocative was Mark Steyn, who cited an International Monetary Fund prediction that China will be the world’s dominant economic power by around 2015. What’s more, Steyn seemed to believe this.

      Coren, as host, offered no substantial opinion but probed Steyn who, in his unique way, predicted America was evolving from “a nation of aircraft carriers to a nation of debt carriers.” By its interest payments alone to China, the U.S. will be “covering the entire cost of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army.”

      https://www.huffpost.com/archive/ca/entry/mark-steyns-wishful-thinking-about-a-doomed-u-s_b_944978

      ……………………………………………………………………
      SOFT POWER
      ……………………………………………………………………
      Edinburgh shelves Taiwan friendship deal over China sanctions fear
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw00y46n3j9o

      The City of Edinburgh Council has shelved plans for a new “friendship arrangement” with a Taiwanese city following fears it could harm relations with China

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    • MarkyMark says:

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  47. Fedup2 says:

    Plenty of last minute ‘supermajority ‘ panic – the reds will increase taxes more than the blues – who will get the blame for £120 000 000 000 ( 120 billion ) of taxpayers ‘ money being spent servicing the debt the blues have built up .

    How soon will the city fall out of love with labour ? If the reds start fiddling around with pensions will it be Truss version 2?

       8 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Fiddle? It’s our Reevsie.

      Totes got it all in hand, though tweeting ‘Change’ every two minutes might prove a dubious long term plan.

         4 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      FREE GLASTONBURY FOR EVERYONE!

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  48. MarkyMark says:

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  49. harry142857 says:

    Latest odds for the US election winner from Betfair.

    Donald Trump 1.71 (c 8/11)
    Kampala Harris 8.0 (7/1)
    Joe Biden 8.2 (7/1)
    Gavin Newsom 18.5 (17/1)
    Michelle Obama 24.0 (23/1)
    Gretchen Whitmer 30.0 (29/1)
    Michelle Obama 90.0 (89/1)
    Robert Kennedy jnr 95.0 (94/1)
    The rest 100 or more

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