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  1. Patrick (Bonn) says:

    A Talk SportDJ was axed from his late night talk spot after he encouraged callers to vote for Boris.

    This spot of political campaigning breached OFFCOM rules on impartiality, therefore it was right to axe him, however, the same rules should equally apply to the BBC, can we expect a rash of departures from the BBC news section?, I very much doubt it.

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  2. edward Bowman says:

    Jeremy Bowen did a programme on the birth of Israel the other day. He had the usual stories but managed to keep one of the BBC’s best secrets, namely that there were about 750000 Jews expelled from Arab countries and all their property seized. These refugees were not supported by the Un refugees money but made a new life elsewhere. One family well known to me had lived in Libya for countless generations. They were A VERY IMPORTANT FAMILY THERE. THEY WERE THROWN OUT AND ALL THEIR LAND SEIZED.
    Another fact Mr
    Bowen managed to overlook. He mentioned that the UN divided what was left of Palestine after a large chunk (Jordan) was removed to give to Emir Abdullah. BOWEN STATED THAT MOST OF THE LAND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE JORDAN WAS GIVEN TO THE JEWS. NOT SO MR BOWEN. THE PEEL COMMISION OF THE U. N. GAVE MOST OF THE LAND TO THE ARABS, BUT THEY TURNED IT DOWN. THEY WANTED EVERY JEW OUT. JUDENREIN.

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  3. Miv Tucker says:

    Patrick (Bonn):
    A Talk SportDJ was axed from his late night talk spot after he encouraged callers to vote for Boris.

    ——————-

    You just beat me to it.

    The guy was James Whale, and you can read the full story here:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=564233&in_page_id=1770

    Like you, I very much we’ll be seeing too many departures from the BBC.

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  4. bodo says:

    Kings Rd seige.
    BBC trumped by Sky, yet again!

    The Beeb boast of correspondents all over the world, but they can’t even get a camera crew to an armed seige on the King’s Rd London.

    Sky has dramatic live footage, albeit at a distance. BBC can only manage ‘reports are coming in…’ says the studio presenter, followed by footage filmed hours earlier, and a statement by a cop, also made hours earlier and thus irrelevant.

    What DO they spend theirb £3.5bn on???

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  5. Pete says:

    Why sack James? Surely it’s an overreaction. Only a small proportion of the nation had a vote in the municipal election concerned, less than half of them could be bothered to use that vote and its a noddy job with very limited powers anyway.

    I’ll miss James and Ash’s banter.

    It’s about time broadcasting was freed up in this country. The current system of tight control and domination by a tax funded giant might have been all right for the 1930’s but times have moved on.

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  6. George R says:

    Praise again for the BBC Peter Taylor’s final -Part 4 -of ‘The Age of Terror: War on the West’ (inc.Islamic Jihad mass murders in Nairobi, 1998:-

    (Trailer and intro. to Part 4 here):

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/age_of_terror/7306413.stm

    But the BBC is now censoring/shelving an unshown TV production on London Jihad, 7/7, after consulting with Islamic interests. ‘It’s what we still do’.

    (For UK viewers who missed Taylor’s programme, it’s available on iPlayer, imminently.)

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  7. Chuffer says:

    Blimey, so that’s where James Whale got to – is he the same one that used to be on Metro Radio (Newcastle) in the early 80s?

    Chris Evans’ shock and horror at Boris’ election starts at about 1hr 9 minutes into Friday’s show – use the Radio 2 Listen Again feature.

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  8. Martin says:

    James Whale has beeb dismissed by Talksport even though Ofcom have not yet made a ruling. It looks like Talksport are perhaps trying to head off a large fine.

    It should also be noted that Talksport is now being run by an ex BBC leftoid called Moz Dee.
    The problem Whale had is he just didn’t know how to deal with lefties on his show.

    He should have used the BBC trick where they bully right wing representatives but let lefties have a free platform to spout their crap (but reverse it). Having said that, Whale is NO fan of David cameron and has said so on many occasions.

    One thing out of this (and I hope others follow) is ANYTHING I feeled is biased about the BBC I will now start to make official complaints. No more emails to some camp BBC fuckwit on the BBC rants line, but formal complaints.

    For example, Stephen Nolans rant about Boris Johnsaon was NOT impartial (yes I know it was after the election, but non the less the BBC is supposed ot be balanced in its output)

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  9. Martin says:

    On the subject of Age of Terror, I was impressed to finally see Bill Clinton and the VILE Madeleine Albright (so loved by Simon Mayo) getting some blame

    For those that have never seen it, take a look at this interview Bill Clinton did on Fox News a while back. When Chris Wallace brings up Bin Laden, Clinton goes mental.

    Billy boy tries ot make out he wanted to cut Bin Landen a new arse, but in fact was more interested in having oral sex with teenage girls.

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  10. Martin says:

    Chuffer: Yes, he’s been at Talksport (and its predessor) for about 15 years.

    Big loss for the station, even though his shows were getting a little stale at times, he was a far better listen that the muppets on 5 lite (Bacon and nolan)

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  11. Nearly Oxfordian says:

    “having oral sex with teenage girls” – and there’s ought wrong with that because …?

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  12. Martin says:

    What I want to know is why the BBC is exempt the Ofcom section on impartiality?

    So we are supposed to allow the BBC to regulate itself? We don’t allow other public sector bodies to do that do we? The Police get investigated IPCC.

    The BBC really are scum. They get away with what they like.

    http://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv/ifi/codes/bcode/undue/

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  13. Pete says:

    I’d rather have James Whale telling me who to vote for than the BBC telling me it is impartial.

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  14. Hillhunt says:

    Bon Patrick:

    can we expect a rash of departures from the BBC news section?, I very much doubt it.

    Might be a good idea to wait till one of them actually instructs his or her audience how to vote, as Mr Whale did.

    Not just an Ofcom issue, but a breach of the Representation of the People Act, too. He was a very silly Whale….
    .

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  15. Martin says:

    Does the BBC really need to get into having digital TV via satellite?

    You can already have Sky installed for less than that and not have to pay a monthly subscription.

    The BBC pissing tax payers money away (again)

    At least with the Sky system you have the option to upgrade to a subscription service witohut having to replace the set top box.

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  16. Martin says:

    Ofcom haven’t actually published the findings of the complaint yet From what I can remember James Whale was suggesting that to “frighten” our politicians, we should vote out all the sitting MPs as this would remind them of who is actually in charge.

    Sounds like a good idea to me.

    The BBC is far more sneaky with its bias.

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  17. Hillhunt says:

    Martin, Snr Figures:

    having oral sex with teenage girls…

    Doubtless President Clinton must have considered having sex with teenage girls from time to time, but La Lewinsky was not one of them. She was a comparatively mature 22 when she attended to the Commander-in-Chief’s intimate requirements.
    .

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  18. Patrick (Bonn) says:

    Hillhunt, I accept the fact that Mr Whale explicitly showed his bias, but I would also highlight the point that indirect bias is just as bad (as shown in BBC reporting on the London elections), in fact indirect bias is worst as it is so much harder to identify the PC slant that some many of the BBC journalists seem to give to any of their political reports.

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  19. Tom says:

    From today’s Telegraph: BBC pussy-foots around Rev Wright

    Apologies if it’s already been mentioned on here.

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  20. Hillhunt says:

    Bon Patrick:

    indirect bias is worst as it is so much harder to identify the PC slant that some many of the BBC journalists seem to give to any of their political reports.

    That’s one way to look at it.

    Another might be to consider that if it’s so hard to identify the alleged BBC slant, it might not actually exist.
    .

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  21. David says:

    Good view from down there in the sand, Hillhunt?

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  22. Peter says:

    The tone of voice,the curl of a lip,the sneer,the loaded questions,the rigged panels,the airbrushing of events,the selection of news,the fact that the BBC cannot resist using Tory in the pejorative that no issue seems to be without its link to global warming.
    It is systemic,pathological,everyone can see it but the BBC tribe.

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  23. Peter says:

    “Good view from down there in the sand, Hillhunt?”

    Hillhunt probably wondered why it felt a bit gritty.

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  24. hexenduction says:

    Martin:
    “Does the BBC really need to get into having digital TV via satellite?”

    Yes, it does, although it would really rather not. There’s the small matter of the digital switchover and how the BBC have been forced to fund it from the license fee..

    You may have heard that the Government are enforcing the switch-off of all analogue TV signals by 2012 so they can sell off the spectrum to fill the Treasury’s coffers. DTT (ie Freeview) will eventually offer digital coverage to around 90% of the country, but in rural/remote areas where the signal is weak (digital TV being less resilient to weak signals than analogue broadcasts), satellite is the only viable option to continue receiving television.

    Therefore a free-to-air satellite system that is NOT solely tied to a single private broadcaster (ie Sky) is the only fair alternative.

    ITV are also partners in the Freesat initiative so it’s not an exclusively BBC affair, just as Freeview isn’t. It’s a pragmatic tie-up with all broadcasters for mutual benefit and reach.

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  25. dave s says:

    It gets odder and odder-“Waking the Dead”.
    I am surprised the BBC didn’t screen it before the elections just so we could see how very very nasty the right wing are(a thinly disguised BNP as the DNP).My God were they nasty.Tattoos everywhere,shaven heads and every verbal cliche going.Boyd,who has suddenly got personal problems with his son,really loathed them and of course got his men.
    On the way he managed to savage a poor priest for an insufficently caring attitude to homosexuality and condemn a Jewish anti-hero? for a disproportionate response to losing his lover.
    As last week proganda disguised as entertainment and violent and poor quality entertainment at that.
    I look forward to an episode with Tories portrayed as cannibal witches with a penchant for murdering midgets.

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  26. Martin says:

    hexenduction: Fine. So why does BT still have a a virtual monopoly of the telecomms hardware then?

    Terrestrial freeview is shite. It probably always will be.

    Satellite and cable are the only two reliable technologies and even cable has problems (like remote villages)

    What was interesting in the BBC story was it failed to mention that Sky already offer a one of package that is cheaper than the BBC offering? Sky also bundle other things like free internet access.

    Other cable providers also offer very good deals.

    As someone who has Sky why the fuck should my TV tax now be used to fund a service I won’t use?

    The BBC should have funded this via an additional charge for those that want it.

    Yet again the state funded provider is using it’s compulsory TV tax to fund something that many people don’t need or want. The BBC treat people like shite. I don’t want the BBC and I don’t want to be forced to pay for it.

    Those of us that have Sky or cable should get a reduction in the TV tax at the very least and let those that want the service pay for it.

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  27. Anonymous says:

    “Doubtless President Clinton must have considered having sex with teenage girls from time to time, but La Lewinsky was not one of them. She was a comparatively mature 22 when she attended to the Commander-in-Chief’s intimate requirements.”

    Quite right, whatever else he was (or is), William Jefferson could not be accused of being a cradle-snatcher. Indeed, it may have been an Oedipal complex, he tended to prefer ladies of more mature years and even La Lewinsky had a distinctly “mumsy” appearance at the time of their liaison.

    For those interested, WJC’s sexual antics with such as Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey and, above all, Juanita Broadrick (he liked to bite, it appears)are detailed in Christopher Hitchens’ short but pungent booklet, “No One Left to Lie To: The Triangulations of William Jefferson Clinton”. More significantly, he draws a link between Clinton’s sexual difficulties (or, more properly, his lying-under-oath difficulties) and his decisions to launch cruise missile strikes on Sudan and Afghanistan (although the Sudanese plant struck turned out to be what the Sudanese said it was, an aspirin factory, and Osama bin Laden and his henchmen evaded the Afghan strike after the US administration had conveniently informed the Pakistani government beforehand) following Al-Qaeda’s atttacks on the US East African embassies and the 10-day bombing campaign on Iraq that Clinton launched (with British support) at the end of 1998.

    It is interesting to note that there was a President before George Bush, and a Democrat to boot, who confidently averred that there were WMD inside Iraq and, according to Clare Short, destroyed them with pinpoint accuracy (although even at the time the Pentagon asserted that the poison gas dumps had been deliberately avoided for fear of releasing a vapour cloud into the atmosphere – it’s also strange how this pinpoint accuracy on the part of the US Air Force does not seem to have been repeated the following year with regard to Serbian tanks).

    Hitchens’ famous “Vanity Fair” article is reprinted where he quoted Lord Macaulay on Frederick the Great:

    “in order that he might rob a neighbour whom he had promised to defend, black men fought on the coast of Coramandel, and red men scalped each other by the Great Lakes of North America.”

    In the paperback edition, published in 2000, he added a chapter looking at the political activities of his wife who was then running in her initial campaign to be US Senator for New York. He finds her to be single-minded and determined, but as equally ruthless and unprincipled as her husband as well as totally in thrall to big-money contributors but without the flaw of being easily sexually distracted. I assume Hitchens will not be being invited on “Newsnight” to discuss the current Presidential race anytime soon

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  28. Allan D says:

    Apologies, the above comment was by me. Pressed the wrong button. It’s a late night.

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  29. Martin says:

    Allan D: I stand corrected, she was 22. None the less, it’s about time Clinton took a lot more of the shit about not getting Bin Laden when he had the chance.

    Problem is the BBC see “Bill” as a bit of a hero. Loved by McLiebour and therefore can do nothing wrong.

    I found the Chris Wallace interview quite interesting.

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  30. jason says:

    Wow, I used to listen to James Whale on Talk Sport 13 years ago back when it was Talk Radio. He was on before Ian Collins and the Creatures of the Night, and I do believe that the long-suffering Ash was his producer back then, too. I enjoyed his show and called in a few times. It’s sad that he’s been sacked after all this time for such a trivial reason. The whole point of those shows is that the presenter has an opinion.

    There was another guy on during the day who made short work of lefties – a dry, miserable sounding bloke with a really deep voice. Can anyone remember who I’m talking about? He was another I always thought the BBC should hire to counter their blanket socialist tripe.

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  31. northnorthwester says:

    Doctor Who on Saturday….
    The gallant but foolish nuclear powers of the earth prepare a co-ordinated missile attack on the kebab-headed Sontarans’ assault fleet.
    UNIT officer calls them as they come on-line from west to east:
    North America on line!
    Britain on line!
    France on line!
    India on line!
    Pakistan on line!
    China on line!
    North Korea on line!

    I don’t know which reference to or omission of which country from that list is the most biased.
    The absence of the USA from the Coalition of The Willing? (‘North America’ indeed! Have Canada and Mexico got the Bomb now?)
    The inclusion of North Korea in a list of nations supposedly prepared to nuke the bad guys.
    Oh, and isn’t there a nation that dwells east of Suez but west of India which feeds, supplies, and treats in its hospitals its wounded but genocidal sworn enemies, and that possesses nukes and might be prepared to help humanity rather than its oppressors? One that has some history of enriching Mankind
    At least we have the Doctor’s threat he’ll do something really angry if he sees another gun today.
    The guns seem to have worked, though, so well done despite the Doctor, you stalwart riflemen of…UNITED NATIONS Intelligence Taskforce. Bugger.
    At least it wasn’t the European Union’s Rapid Reaction Force,

    Still, we got to see London saved from alien invasion and subtle poisoning…Twice in the same weekend.

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  32. Martin says:

    Jason: I think you mean Mike Dickin? He died a while back in a car crash. He used to do the Weekend slot on TS.

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  33. Pete says:

    Hillhunt says

    ‘Another might be to consider that if it’s so hard to identify the alleged BBC slant, it might not actually exist.’

    I think the BBC news is biased. I also think that the BBC is mainly a mass manufacturer of trash TV like Eastenders. That’s why I don’t want to buy the BBC’s services. I’ve no objection to Hillhunt or anyone else buying them, but I don’t see why I should just because others admire the corporation.

    Why do many BBC fans think that because they find the BBC useful that everyone should be forced to pay for it? It’s such a bizarre, outdated, authoritarian attitude. Or perhaps its just good old fashioned selfishness. If everyone has to pay for your preferred junk TV and news then you get it cheaper.

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  34. Nearly Oxfordian says:

    David,
    Please can you kick out the disgusting troll Hillhunt, who is stalking me constantly and invents new names for me all the time?
    Unless you do, I shall stop visiting this site.
    Thanks.

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  35. Nearly Oxfordian says:

    “digital TV being less resilient to weak signals than analogue broadcasts” –

    I’ll go and do some research on it, since you seem so sure of this; but everything I know about electronic engineering tells me it’s t’other way round.

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  36. Nearly Oxfordian says:

    “according to Clare Short” – well, frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn what this ghastly little shit says. She is a demented liar. Anyone who can claim that the free publication of adult magazines is an example of censorship and therefore should be stopped, is not someone who should even be allowed to be in politics.

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  37. Martin says:

    Ah the BBC Radio 5 phone in today is on…….. Cannabis use! Hey I bet that was popular in the BBC newsroom.

    I’d love to know just how many at the BBC use it (and harder drugs), but is it really the top story of the day?

    McBeans mental breakdown?

    The US elections?

    Taxation?

    Crime?

    Fuel costs?

    Nice to see the BBC really going for the “big stories”

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  38. johnj says:

    Patrick (Bonn):
    A Talk SportDJ was axed from his late night talk spot after he encouraged callers to vote for Boris.

    I’m wondering if James Whale’s sacking was also made by a very unpset Leftie at the helm of this radio, deep in mourning following Red Kens departure. I noticed the remarks were made on a late night March 22nd. This radio is not just about sport. Don’t forget George Galloway is on their books, and , not having heard his programme, I wonder what he talks about and if he gives us his political opinion? Like the BBC and Respect, it seems they are altogether respectable and deserving of invitations on QT and we really need to know what they have to say, etc. Whale’s support for Boris (in March) strikes me as lame. Rather similar to the BBC getting rid of Kilroy.

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  39. Pitchris says:

    To my knowledge, the BBC only chose certain lines from Richard Barnbrook’s speech on Friday night, all cherry-picked to cast him in the worst possible light.

    However • and despite what one might think of the BNP • it was an excellent speech. He held his hands out and said that no matter one’s creed or colour he would listen to Londoners and try to help (he said this twice) all he asked is that people remember that they are now Londoners and Britons, that they should adapt to ‘our’ way of life and not demand we adapt to theirs.

    This however, wouldn’t have looked good on BBC, it is not the BNP that the BBC wants people to see, hence the comments were never mentioned.

    Fact is, a significant number of people voted for the party • resulting in its seat on the GLA • they can’t all be brain-dead, knuckle-dragging Nazi’s, can they?

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  40. PacificRising says:

    Further to the James Whale story have a look at this:
    James Cleverly on BBC impartiality.

    This was the question which greeted callers into Dotun Adebayo’s show on BBC Radio London last night.

    I was a guest on the show answering the questions of callers about the election results with the other guests, Jenette Arnold AM for Labour and Ashok Viswanathan from Operation Black Vote.

    Dotun and the programme’s producer were being fiercely neutral but the young lady answering the telephones was having a tougher time.

    Susie and I planned to have dinner after the show, so she came to the studio with me and was sitting in the studio’s anteroom, this was also where the calls are filtered. Susie said that the nearly tearful look on the woman’s face, while listening to the clip of Livingstone’s nearly tearful concession speech indicated her political affiliation. As did her interaction with callers, Susie was stifling a laugh as she heard her answer the phone calls with the question “and what is your concern about Boris?”

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  41. Andy says:

    Nearly Oxfordian

    “I’ll go and do some research on it, since you seem so sure of this; but everything I know about electronic engineering tells me it’s t’other way round.”

    I’m not sure which of the two is best re signal strengths vs distance, but digital has some big advantages: cheaper due to vlsi, increased capacity using compression techniques, better security using encryption, error checking…

    Probably loads of other reasons but my electronics is rather rusty.

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  42. George R says:

    The BBC’s presumptuous opinions, paraded as facts on science/environment issues, continue. When the BBC is not propagandising with NGO, EU subsidised ‘Greens’, it gives space to ‘Operation Noah’, urging ‘Greens’ to become even more demanding, and political!:-

    “Green movement forgets its politics”

    -(Viewpoint by Ann Peppifor, director of Operation Noah).

    In her opening, she reflects the usual BBC bias:-

    “Climate change is the issue of the day.

    “Scientists finally agree on the threat to the planet posed by rising temperatures. Books on the subject proliferate.

    “Campaigners, like those at Plane Stupid, do amazing things to bring it to public attention.”

    She should know that the ‘Greens’ are very political – allying themselves with Muslims4Ken types in the London election, pressuring the UK government against cutting fuel duty, and against building a new generation of nuclear power stations, as well as getting subsidies from the EU, and having open-door access to the like-minded BBC.

    Will the BBC allow a series of strongly anti-‘Green’ viewpoints in this cosy series?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7385615.stm

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  43. Pot-Kettle-Black says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7385965.stm

    ‘Good’ of the BBC to highlight this.

    “Some occupations are worse than others with regard to drinking and the workplace.
    Forty-one per cent of people working in media and creative jobs said they had been to work while still drunk – four times the average.”

    Conveniently not pointed out but that would of course include the BBC in that category.

    Who knows perhaps more than others even in that category.

    I wonder if that writer was under the influence whilst writing…

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  44. Pot-Kettle-Black says:

    Freesat from sky is already available, more channels than the BBC/ITV freesat, with box, dish and installation and coverage is better all for 150 pounds.

    The BBC/ITV freesat will be 130 pounds or 200 pounds (the latter if you want HD).

    Remember freeview is already available.
    New televisions are all with built in freeview digital.

    Just what is the point of the BBC/ITV freesat? isn’t it just going to cost us telly tax payers even more of our hard earned for no discernible benefit.

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  45. Sue says:

    I am sorry the BBC iplayer isn’t available outside the U.K. so not everyone could see Jeremy Bowen’s mangled history of the Birth of Israel.

    Although a map of the area was shown pointing out the directions from which the Arabs invaded in ‘48, the glaring omission of a map illustrating the original carving up of Palestine allowed Bowen to say,
    of the UN partition – “The Jews got the best bit”

    Emphasising the juicy bit of the Balfour declaration, Bowen recounts:

    “……and it also said..it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine.” ” “Now there’s a whole series of incompatible promises the British never found a way to keep, …..”
    Bowen looks knowingly at the camera, conspiratorially conveying to the discerning viewer that now is the time for outrage.

    Hoodwinking the majority of viewers into thinking they had watched a balanced programme presented by no less than ‘the BBC’s chief Middle east Editor,’ why should the average viewer doubt that they were being told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

    Bowen admits that there are “Dual Narratives,”
    but he is quite satisfied to settle for the Arab version.

    The article linked to by BioBiodegradable | 05.05.08 – 7:49 pm via Mel

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/1948–israel–and-the-palestinians-the-true-story-11355

    gives a credible, more verifiable and rather different picture of the history of the Jews, their relations with Arabs and the creation of Israel.

    But even if one was to regard that, rather than Bowen’s travesty, as cynical propaganda, it needs to be offered to the viewer and left to them to consider which of the “Dual Narratives” is likely to be nearest to the truth.

    I looked at the credits and noticed ‘Middle East Production = Hilight Films’
    Which I Googled. I wonder, since the BBC features prominently in their client list, if this Israeli company, supplier of stringers and fixers etc., is aware of the damage that is being done, with their help, to their country’s image abroad.

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  46. Nearly Oxfordian says:

    Andy, what I am saying is that signal recovery from a weak signal is better with digital because you can have redundancy -> error correction etc – all on top of the inherent stability of digital because of its yes/no character. A weaker 1 is still a 1, whereas with analogue a weaker 1 is 0.5, say, which means distortion.

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  47. Hillhunt says:

    Senor Figures:

    Please can you kick out the disgusting troll Hillhunt, who is stalking me constantly and invents new names for me all the time?

    Would this be the same person who recently called his fellow B-BBCians*:

    idiot (4 times)
    illiterate (once)
    nutcase (once)
    lunatic (once)
    dumb little twat (once)
    ignorant and/or demagogic (repeatedly)
    scientifically illiterate (once)
    patronising (twice)
    dear (once)
    slugs (twice)
    sad, ignorant, pompous little tosser (once)
    little boy (once)
    illiterate jerk (once)
    stupid (once)
    infantile (once)

    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/5954714437262914639/#395382
    and many, many more.

    * = non-Beeboid
    .

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  48. PaulT says:

    Northnorthwesterner: Indeed. They also missed out Russia. Was this just an editing slip, or was it the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation again pushing its agenda.

    This most recent episode of Doctor Who was a travesty of anti-Western bias as set out in northnorthwesterner’s post. It also blatantly pushed the BBC’s line on the environment, was anti-armed forces and topped it all off with some good old fashioned class hatred.

    Firstly, cars from around the world fill the atmosphere with gas/smog prompting one character to exclaim “the pollution, the ozone, the carbon, it’s all true what they say”. By the end of the episode, everyone had stopped driving. “It’s wonderful to walk to the shops, the kids are on their bikes” I’m sure all those urban socialist class warriors who work at the BBC take the tube, what about people who live 5 miles to the nearest shops?

    One favourite al-Beeb theme is to ridicule the British army. True to form, all the British soldiers in this episode were depicted as blood thirsty and stupid. They were obsessed with nuclear weapons and were trying to nuke the aliens, it was only the Doctor’s cunning that thwarted the dumb soldiers.

    Then we come to class resentment, or more properly, vicarious class resentment. There is nothing that middle class socialists (i.e. those who work at the BBC) can’t stand more than middle class non-socialists. Hence the Sontarans.

    The Sontarans are blood-thirsty warrior aliens who think war is glorious and dying in battle is wonderful. They all spoke with posh accents. Yep, that’s right according to Doctor Who people with posh accents are all stupid blood thirsty warriors who think dying in battle is glorious.

    These Sontarans were exactly mirrored by the British officers trying to fight them.

    But the real war is not between the posh Sontarans and the posh British officers, it’s between the BBC and anyone who is middle class or public school educated. In other words the BBC is continuing to fight revolutionary struggle on behalf of the working classes long after anyone in the real world has given up.

    Your Telly Tax is being used for this piffle.

    Even now, I can hear the sounds of music from the BBC staff canteen:

    “The people’s flag is deepest red..”

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  49. Phil says:

    Daily Politics – the divine Jenny Scott has just accused the Tories of being “opportunistic” over the 10p tax band.

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  50. Nearly Oxfordian says:

    Hillhunt, I have been called similar names when discussing specific issues. You are the only one here who is deliberately stalking and trolling me. And you are a know troll.

    David, I repeat: will you please kick out this piece of scum?

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