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George R | 25.08.08 – 1:12 am
the only questions any reasonable person would ask regarding the taliban would be
1. where?
and
2. whats the rate of fire.
disconnected from reality – thats the bbc.
Kill the Beeb | 25.08.08 – 1:13 am
maybe he doesnt want to get a criminal record.
ok – i’ll do a wager…
mccain’s vp.. i’m going out on a limb and i’ll say
bobby jindal.
that’ll stop the “we gotta vote for a black guy” in its tracks.
romney would be my preferred Vp – but politically – he’d be better with jindal.
Kill the Beeb: Yes I could refuse to pay the BBC, just like I could refuse to pay my car tax or council tax.
I could throw my TV sets away and be legal.
But why should I? The TV tax is immoral. It isn’t like paying taxes for the NHS or defence. The BBC serves no useful state function in the 21st Century.
I can get my infomration from a variety of sources (usually far more honest and reliable than the BBC).
I think people should obey the law. If people start to pick and choose which laws they follow, we will end up in a right mess.
I just think the state funding of the BBC should cease
If I were Lyse Douset I wouldn’t go near the British army for some time.
archduke:
I don’t have a criminal record from refusing to pay the telly tax. And I have been less than kind to any telly tax Gestapo agent that turns up to my door.
The important thing here is that I refuse to pay a penny to an institution such as the BBC as I am so vehemently opposed to their destructive agenda. Personally, I would feel like a total hypocrite if I was calling for the end of the BBC while I was funding their continuation.
Kill the Beeb: What other laws would you break?
sorry – still cracking up .. on the news channels.. its boris:
“ping pong is coming home”
thank GOD london voted boris in…
Martin:
“If people start to pick and choose which laws they follow, we will end up in a right mess.”
Anyone for Sharia?
Martin:
I would willingly break any law that I felt was leading myself and my children to an eventual doom.
At this time I can think of no other bill I am expected to pay – the money of which will be used to promote Islam and recruit terrorists.
i dont fancy the cops locking me up for 42 days and taking a dna sample.
and getting back to the olympics – anyone notice the wheelchair lot.. ooh – totally P.C…
what a load of cack..
kill the beeb – i’m irish, so i have a fallback…
if the worst comes to the worst , i have a something that is armed to turn to.
i pity the english – who have you to turn to. maybe the army? or the sas?
i would hope so.
archduke:
I’m sure if the worst came to the worst we would have a special ‘complaints form’ we could turn too.
The BBCs racist training programmes exposed here:-
http:// http://www.collativelearning.com…rimination.html
Having moved home to Manchester, I decided to apply to the BBC for a training position. They had placed an ad on several websites announcing that there were twenty training positions available for people to work at various levels in the BBC. They described that applications were welcome from people who could demonstrate that they had already used their initiative in their own independent film projects. I figured I would stand a decent chance on that basis, and so I phoned for an interview.
A very polite receptionist then asked me for a few details about myself, including my ethnicity. After telling her I was white British born, she told me in a very embarrassed tone that I was not eligible to apply for any of the training posts because they were only open to people of minority ethnicity. I then asked if there were any similar training programmes that a white British born person could apply for. She told me there wasn’t at that point in time and could not specify when one would be available.
Over the following days I made several phone calls back to the Manchester BBC office requesting to speak to whoever had formulated the policy of only training people form ethnic minorities. Eventually I spoke to Belinda Storrs. She was very polite and offered me an interview to discuss what other opportunities could be identified at the BBC for which I could apply. It took several cancellations and rearrangements over the following weeks before the interview actually took place. Belinda and her colleague were very supportive and professional. However, there was only one problem. There were still no training opportunities at the BBC for white British born applicants. The only thing they could offer was to apply for a voluntary position as a runner, but explained that these posts usually go to recently graduated media students. What Belinda and her colleague did was tell me every other organisation I could go to in Manchester … outside of the BBC. I still didn’t get to speak to the manager who had formulated the “no white applicants for training” policy.
Kill the Beeb | 25.08.08 – 2:21 am |
Terrible.
Have you documented this?
Can you sue them?
.
David Preiser (USA)
http://www.london2012.com has one, expect there will be more in the papers today.
Turns out the rurmours about how she would dress were just scare stories.
Time Out chief Tony Elliott wants BBC out of publishing
The magazine proprietor said that Time Out, publisher of its own travel guides, could not compete with the BBC’s promotional muscle – and that the BBC should not publish books and magazines.
BBC Worldwide, the commercial division, should be split up, Mr Elliott told the Edinburgh Television Festival
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article4602888.ece
its an obama luv fest on Al Beebs breakfast propaganda show
obviously Beeboid command drones wont allow the propaganda drones to give equal footage to McCain
“No humanity for ‘evil’ Taliban
(Tom Newton Dunn, ‘The Sun’)
[Extract]:
“A BBC news girl attacked TV yesterday for failing to show viewers the Taliban’s ‘humanity’.
Presenter Lyse Doucet’s astonishing statement comes as an Apache gunship hero revealed the fanatics aim to capture a British soldier and SKIN HIM LIVE on the internet.
“Military Cross winner Ed Macy — whose book Apache is serialised in The Sun from today — tells how an intelligence officer gave details of the Taliban butchers’ sick plan.
“It made Army Air Corps Warrant Officer Macy and his comrades even more determined to rescue a mortally wounded Marine from a Taliban stronghold — which they did with four soldiers strapped to the outside of two Apaches.
“But BBC World News correspondent Doucet claimed the public also want to seeing the kinder side of the Afghan extremists.”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1602644.ece
‘Lyse’: sounds like ‘lies’.
“The kinder side of the Afghan extremists” that those despicable Lefties at the BBC fail to report
http://www.lccables.com/talibans/2.html
Kill the Beeb,
So you have the dubious honour of having been racially discriminated against by BBC employees, repeatedly? I’m no legal expert but surely, even with Harman’s recent Racist/Sexist Employers’ charter, to be ruled out of interview on the basis of your race is illegal. Anyone here able to offer advice on the matter?
The unwritten and au spoken law that is above all other laws..
Discrimination is only discrimination when an ethnic minority is being discriminated against by a white native British.
Sarah:
Sue Barker, with smacked-bitch lemon sucking sneer:
“The Amerrycans only got 36 Golds.”
Only, Sue? Weren’t you just telling us what a fantastic victory these Olympics were for Britain? How many Golds did Britain get again?
Right on, Sarah.
Counting golds silvers and bronzes as equal worth, the USA came first in the world and we came fourth [ out of the whole world! God save the Queen!.]
as
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/olympics/2008/medals/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/medals_table/default.stm
SO where’s the BBC headline ; ‘US olympic athletes triumph over the world, by a 10% margin’?
The comments page of the tables page is the usual mixture of sublime ( or at least sense) and the ridiculous, and look which sort of comment gets posted third.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/olympics/2008/08/goodnight_beijing.html
Kill the Beeb,
Unless the BBC have some special exemption, the racial discrimination you were subjected to is clearly unlawful. There are some useful links here:
http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_rights/discrimination.htm
There’s some not-so-relavant advice such as:
“If you think that you have suffered race discrimination there are a number of courses of action you can take. These include:-
…
* publicising your case through the media…”
here: http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/your_rights/discrimination/taking_action_about_race_discrimination.htm
If you want to know who made the decision to discriminate against ‘non-minorities’ in the recruitment process, just ask again, quoting the Freedom of Information Act. They will be obliged to tell you, or give you the best excuse they can come up with not to tell you.
Don’t let it lie.
Kill T. Beeb’s link didn’t work. He/ she/it also posted it on the old general thread below where it did work.
The incident he described is from the website here:
http://www.collativelearning.com/strategic%20discrimination.html
According to the BBC, the most important news angle in Professor Rod Morgan’s important new report about crime trends is that we’re too harsh on young people.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7580285.stm
But that’s not what other journalists make of his report. The Daily Mail, for example, says:
“Cautions have overtaken convictions as punishment for violent crimes for the first time, a report reveals today.
“The number of assault cases where police allow offenders to escape punishment has more than trebled in five years to more than 118,000 – including a near-doubling of the most serious violent attacks.
“The rapid expansion of ‘instant justice’ under Labour has seen a dramatic rise in the use of formal warnings, cautions and on-the-spot fines by police as an alternative to pressing criminal charges.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1048887/How-118-000-violent-thugs-let-just-caution-convictions-violent-crime-plummet.html
The BBC: never report the glaring truth about New Labour’s dreadful handling of the economy, crime, or anything else. Even when it’s staring you in the face.
northnorthwester | Homepage | 25.08.08 – 9:52 am
How many Golds did Britain get again?…
Counting golds silvers and bronzes as equal worth, the USA came first in the world
Yes, but the US is a much bigger country than ours with a population (= potential athletes pool) five times bigger than ours.
Stop trying to pour cold water on British achievement.
In any other organisation, Lyse Doucet would be disciplined – or even sacked – for her pro-Taliban line. Someone at her pay level should never try to sanitise the Taliban.
But there will be lots of people at the “BBC” – including top management – who will be wondering what the fuss is all about. They run the whole show on the basis of moral equivocation. “Blame the West first”.
“BBC” – because it is no longer BRITISH. And as a foreigner Lyse Doucet should not be in such a senior position, her reporting is usually banal as well as biased, and her accent is grating. I really hope the rest of the British media keep chasing this one.
The same Lyse Doucet who reported live on the BBC that she was moved to tears
at Arafat’s death?
No track record there then……
Steve Weaver | 25.08.08 – 11:47 am
I think that was Barbara Plett. Another Canadian. What is it with these Canucks?
The question is – why does the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation keep giving senior posts to foreigners ? And all liberal foreigners at that.
Rapix wonders: “I think that was Barbara Plett. Another Canadian. What is it with these Canucks?”
French Canadians.
Contrast & Compare:
Emotional toll of prisoners issue
[…]
For Um Ali, Monday’s release will end 28 years as a single parent.
She was seven months pregnant with her third child when her husband, Muhammad Abu Ali, was jailed for killing an Israeli reservist in the West Bank town of Hebron.
[…]
Initially, Um Ali said “not one hair on my head is moved” in empathy for the family of the soldier her husband killed, as he was part of an army that was “beating us and killing people”.
But then, aware of the complexity of the issue, she adds: “As a mother, I wouldn’t like to see my son killed, and as a mother, I would want the killer to be in jail.”
‘There’ll be no peace without the release of all our prisoners’
[…]
Muhammad Abu Ali had been jailed for life for the fatal shooting of 20-year-old yeshiva student Joshua Saloma, a newly arrived Danish immigrant, in Hebron in 1980. He was later convicted of killing a Palestinian in jail whom he had accused of collaborating with Israel.
BBC calls a “20-year-old yeshiva student” an army reservist and fails to report that the murderer with blood on his hands also killed one of his own while in jail.
The BBC: only the news it sees fit to print!
Former assistant general secretary of the Labour party Eddie Morgan, defending the party against accusations of Orwellian spin in 2002:
“I must emphasise we are not offering a disinterested assessment of how the government is doing. The information is designed to present the achievements of the government in a positive light.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2002/oct/08/newmedia.publicservices
Look who is in the running to be the next Newsnight editor:
Former Labour party official Eddie Morgan, now editor of the Culture Show, is also said to be in with a shout.
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/mediamonkey/2008/08/monkey_goes_to_the_2008_edinbu.html
Which also helps explain why the Culture Show is shit.
DB writes: “…Former assistant general secretary of the Labour party Eddie Morgan”
Well spotted, DB!
In a properly run, publicly-funded, news organisation, that would automatically disqualify him from any senior editorial position.
At the BBC, on the other hand…
Why is this story not on BBC. If it was Israel who did the killing it would.
Vengeance for Iraqi who visited Israel
Former Iraqi culture minister sentenced to death by hanging for involvement in killing of parliament member Mithal al-Alusi’s two sons after his visit to Israel
Smadar Peri
Published: 08.25.08, 13:43 / Israel News
In 2004, shortly after the fall of Saddam Hussein, Iraqi parliament member Mithal al-Alusi came to Israel at the invitation of the Interdisciplinary Center (IDC) in Herzliya. Al-Alusi, a secular Sunni politician, became the unofficial star of an IDC-hosted international conference.
In an interview to Yedioth Ahranoth in 2004, al-Alusi remarked, “I know many Iraqis support my decision to come with tiding of peace to Israel.”
At this time of his visit, al-Alusi’s family began receiving threats and went into hiding in order to avoid assassination attempts. Five months after al-Alusi returned to Iraq, two anonymous gunmen shot down his two sons (aged 22 and 30) outside their home, shouting “this is a punishment for your visit to Israel.”
About a year ago, two Sunnis were arrested on suspicion of committing the crime and admitted to having been paid $500 each by Iraq’s former culture minister, Asaad al-Hashemi, to take out al Alusi’s sons. Al-Hashemi fled to Syria pursuant to their arrest and is thought to be living there under a false identity.
The BBC, in its propaganda, seems to be committed to supporting Islamic jihad in the world.
The BBC’s infamous role in reporting ISRAEL (BBC is pro-Hamas), and IRAQ (BBC is anti-West) has been criticised extensively on this site; but it is apparent that through its Islamic, and pro-Islamic reporters in many Middle East Islamic states, the BBC is subsidised by us licence-payers to present an anti-Western world-view.
E.g. BBC’s Lyse Doucet ‘humanity’ Taliban in AFGHANISTAN;
-BBC’s largely sympathetic view of Ahmadinejad in IRAN (apparently influenced by BBC’s desire to have a presence there, so it is happy to play the dhimmi);
-BBC role in EGYPT does not side with the presecuted Coptic Christians there, for example; and is largely uncritical about the role of Muslim Brotherhood;
-BBC is, of course, sympathetic to Hizbollah in LEBANON (underlining BBC’s anti-Israeli position);
-BBC has largely uncritical reports on SAUDI ARABIA, given treatment of women there, the high percentage of Saudis active in global jihad, the Saudi global finance of jihad and shariah, underpinned by Wahhabi oppression.
The opening of the BBC (World Service) Arabic TV centre at Broadcasting House in 2008, is no accident; it physically, as well as ideologically, illustrates the symbiotic relationship between the BBC-BBC World Service-BBC Arabic TV Service-Al Jazeera (with which the BBC has a ‘technical relationship’, and where many ex-Beeboids find a pro-Islamic career).
“BBC blunders as bosses forget to build prayer room for new Arabic TV channel”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-511159/BBC-blunder-bosses-forget-build-prayer-room-new-Arabic-TV-channel.html
And many Indian Hindus are unhappy about the pro-Islamic, biased reporting of the BBC’s ALTAF HUSSAIN on Kashmir:
“Kashmir and Jammu, biased reporting by BBC Kashmir correspondent”
http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2008/08/kashmir-jammu-biased-reporting-by-bbc.html
Radio 5 has an interview with Al Jazeera boss today. he’s going to tell them where they ar going wrong!!!!
Wonderful.
BBC’s main headline currently on ‘South Asia’ webpage:
“Kashmir Muslims defy India curfew” (ALTAF HUSSAIN)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7580325.stm
Alternative historical information on Kashmir, NOT provided by BBC:
“Kashmir: A Paradise turned into Hell”
http://www.kashmir-information.com/
“Yes, but the US is a much bigger country than ours with a population (= potential athletes pool) five times bigger than ours.
Stop trying to pour cold water on British achievement.
Rapix | 25.08.08 – 10:57 am | # ”
And China’s population is roughly 4.5 times that of the US. I don’t hear anyone banging on about that in attempts to downplay China’s meal tally.
No-one is pouring cold water on Britain’s achievement. Sue Barker and countless others have appeared to lack the sportsmanship and grace to enjoy Britain’s own achievement at these Olypmics without denigrating the achievement of the US, though.
Sarah | 25.08.08 – 2:00 pm
And China’s population is roughly 4.5 times that of the US
…. which is probably a big part of the reason they won more medals.
Far from disproving my point, you reinforce it.
“Sarah | 25.08.08 – 2:00 pm
And China’s population is roughly 4.5 times that of the US
…. which is probably a big part of the reason they won more medals.
Far from disproving my point, you reinforce it.”
I wasn’t trying to disprove your point. I was telling you that Sue Barker is an unsporting bitch.
Sarah | 25.08.08 – 3:11 pm
wasn’t trying to disprove your point. I was telling you that Sue Barker is an unsporting bitch.
Well I’m happy to take your word for it… but who is Sue Barker?
Headline from the BBC’s ‘News’ (sic) website;
“Class Game – Can tennis be made to seem less posh?”
They just can’t help themselves, can they?
Fair point I have always thought of tennis as a posh sport.
Like cricket as soon as they get the least bit of rain the players run inside to stop their nice white costumes getting wet.
Via Samizdata – this tribute to Solzhenitsyn from Theodore Dalrymple:
Insofar as Solzhenitsyn finally destroyed the possibility in the West of intellectual sympathy for the Soviet Union (which inhibited the prosecution of the Cold War), he helped bring about the demise of the revolutionary, ideological state, and for that he will be remembered as long as history is written.
http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0813td.html
Change “Soviet Union” to “Taliban” and “Cold War” to “War on Terror” and you’ve got Lyse Doucet and the BBC mindset.
intellectual sympathy for the Soviet Union (which inhibited the prosecution of the Cold War)
Actually, don’t change anything and you’ve got the BBC mindset.
I bet Lyse is unhappy with this news:
Pakistan has banned the Taleban militant group which has been behind many suicide attacks in the country since 2007.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7580475.stm
Only just banned? Thanks for your help, Pakistan.
Bank holidays don’t get in the way of the BBC’s climate change alarmism. Nothing does. The latest ‘expert’ reporter who aims to put the fear of god into us is Imogen Foulkes, who tells us that ‘melting glaciers’ in the Alps have revealed unusual archaeological finds and that similar patterns of retreat and discovery are at work all over the world.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7580294.stm
The item follows the usual wearisome climate change format – a conference, a few scientists who agree that CO2 is killing us all (in order to grab headlines so that they can renew their EU research grants) and sensationalist, idiotic, conclusions.
And of course, no mention at all that many other scientists don’t agree that glaciers are in retreat, but are instead subject to cyclical fluctuation.
http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html