50 Responses to WEEKEND OPEN THREAD…

  1. Philip says:

    The Deity is top story again this morning.. that’s been every day this week now – but just what is he actually doing to deserve such prominence?

    Americans want to know.


    • deegee says:

      Obama to win 2010 Boston Marathon!  
      BOSTON – President Barack Obama won the 2010 Boston Marathon this morning in a stunning decision designed to encourage him to quit smoking and keep running to stay in shape. The Boston Athletic Association announced their decision to name Obama the winner even though the race will not be run until 18 April 2010 because the president has the desire to win and has good intentions.  
      In announcing Obama the winner the president of the Boston Athletic Association said, “We must rise above the out dated measurements of what a person actually has accomplished and focus instead on their intentions and what they say they will do. “Intentions and talk are what drive the world.” Congressman Barney Frank and Chinese Vice President XI Jinping seated nearby reiterated these words.  
      The Boston Athletic Association also noted that no president has won the marathon before. This would set a good example for all future presidents of the United States and for other countries such as Iran and North Korea that intentions really matter.

      Many observers were shocked by the unexpected decision before the race has even been run.. However, when told of his win the President said he had really been thinking a lot about keeping in shape, talked with staff about cutting back on his smoking, and even read an article about the Boston Marathon.  
      Obama added that wining the Boston Marathon was better than any other award he has received including his Nobel Prize, Tony for best performance by leading actor, Emmy for outstanding lead actor in drama series, Golden Globe for best performance of an actor in a comedy, Heisman Trophy for side stepping the issues, NASCAR Champion, World Series Most Valuable Player, Best Twitter Page, and America’s Best Teleprompter Reader Award.


  2. Pounce says:

    I see the bBC has found another example of British Army torture led by non other than the esteemed (Not) human rights lawyer Phil Shiner.

    In fact the bBC lost no time in ensuring that a bias to the story was instantly made by linking in the Barba musa story any chance it got.
    Which begs me to ask when was the last time the bBC linked in any of the 100s of times Muslims in the Uk have tried to avenge their honour (Be it women/crime/terrorisim) silly me they don’t.

    But hey wht should that bother the bBC, they love the radical Islamic way of life.
    Lying for allah
    Free benefits for allah
    I am a victim for allah
    the bBC loves allah.

    On that note I wonder if the bBC will help bring all these poor iraqi people over to the Uk in which to seek justice?

    Yeah right more like they will be found to be bloody lying like 99$% of every case brought up by Shiner and his f-ing ilk.


  3. Grant says:

    deegee 8:34

    Excellent  !!

    Next, the London Olympics !


  4. George R says:

    BBC presents expansive defence for Hasan, who apparently may have been involved in what the BBC calls “the incident” in Texas:

    “Fort Hood suspect ‘is paralysed'”



  5. Travis Bickle says:

    I hope I’m not alone in wishing Maj Nidal Malik Hasan a speedy recovery.

    May he be in the best of health, when he sits in the electric chair.


  6. George R says:

    BBC condemns today’s political demonstration by Scottish Defence League (SDL) before it starts.

    The BBC’s competitor, ‘Scottish Television’ describes the SDL thus:

    “The SDL was formed in protest against Muslim ‘extremists’ and ‘jihadists’. They say the UK Government is not taking significant action against the ‘Islamist assault’ which they claim is threatening British culture.”


    BBC’s political line is obvious:

    “Rally opposes ‘anti-Islamic’ demo”



  7. George R says:

    “‘Huge challenge’ of 2012 security” that BBC (et al) dare not speak its name.



  8. Martin says:

    More CRAP from the BBC. News 24 running “Sharia UK” trying to educates us stupid westerners as to how WONDERFUL Sharia really is, so wonderful in fact that no wet lesbian feminist at the BBC lives by it.

    We are ‘told’ about a Muslim woman that turns to a Sharia court for a divorce because her husband hits her. The female beeboid discusses this wonderful idea of it being dealt with by a Sharia court.

    Hmm, funny that the BBC lesbians are not so soft on white non bearded men who beat their wives.

    I thought that hitting your wife was a crime? Not a single mention of this in the programme. Female beeboid then feels sorry for Archbishop for daring to talk about integrating Sharia into UK law.

    Yes, you have to feel sorry for him don’t you fat ugly female beeboid?

    F**k Islam, F**k Sharia if you dozy fat female beeboid dykes love Sharia so much why don’t you piss off to live in Saudi Arabia then?


  9. Pounce says:

    The bBC informing the British public about an escaped woman killer and half the story.

    Woman killer flees on shop visit 
    A woman convicted of murder has gone on the run during an escorted visit to the shops in south London.

    Patricia Gillette, 41, from Streatham, south London, was detained indefinitely in 2007 for killing Mark Murphy, 38, at his home in Streatham in August 2006. Gillette, who was being held at Bethlem Royal Hospital, was on a visit to shops in West Wickham High Street, Bromley, when she escaped on Friday afternoon. 

    Police described her as “dangerous” and warned people not to
    approach her.

    Gillette is of large build, has moles under both eyes, a scar on the left side of her neck and another scar on her left ear, police said.

    She was last seen wearing a red hooded coat, a blue jeans shirt, black jogging bottoms and black shoes.

    And here is a little information which the bBC left out in describing this woman killer.

    A Metropolitan Police spokesman said officers had been advised that Gillette is overweight, weighing approximately 25 stone, and is 5ft 5in. 

    You’d think that, that large snippet would help ensure that lady killer Pat stood out a little. But you so have to ask how at 5 foot five and coming in at  25 stone how the hell did she manage to get away from her guards.

    Now i wonder why the bBC left out that salient chunk from its reporting. Is it because as a fat black Killer on the run she has rights.


  10. Will says:

    Read this in the BBC’s Radio Times about a programme on Berlin by Matt Frei & it struck me that Anita would fit a Martin definition of an ideal piece of BBC on-expenses fantasy

    “It’s an engaging enough opening episode, but Frei does a lot, possibly too much, shuttling between historical figures from Frederick the Great through Karl Marx to cocaine-snorting bisexual prostitute stripper Anita Berber. Phew!”

    Berlin<img src=”http://www.radiotimes.com/images/key/key_c_cream.gif” alt=”Highlight”/> <!– END titleInfo –>

    Saturday 14 November
    7:30pm –


  11. George R says:

    BBC lead story, all day: some Muslims in Iraq are accusing British troops of ‘abuse’, as they do.

    The BBC, at the same time downgrades as a BBC ‘impersonal’ story, a second day in a row, Islamic jihad bombing in Peshawar, killing another 11 plus people. The bomb was set by Muslims, BBC: 

    [Islamic jihad] “Pakistan bomb targets checkpoint”


  12. Teddy Bear says:

    Flo, can you really be so dense?
    Our troops are fighting a war against those kind that blew up and killed 11 innocent people in Pakistan. But rather than highlight just who and what our enemy does, the BBC prefers to highlight the ALLEGED abuse that our troops MIGHT have done in fighting that war.
    There are some that would call the actions of the BBC in this regard akin to a fifth column. Do you think that militant Islamists don’t use this kind of reporting to further enlist fresh recruits to fight our society? Or don’t you care?


  13. Guest says:

    Two wimmin on BBC Breakfastm talking about wimmin working (have to say I am often cheering on Charlie Stayt). Here’s my suggestion to the programme as a consequence of one deciding to make a small opinionesque point based on what I suspect is more their personal political beliefs, without any challenge (quelle surprise)

    If Margaret Thatcher is to be invoked without question in debate as a rational example of failed parenting in the modern age by a BBC guest commentator, it is to hoped that the progeny of our current PM end up in careers conducted in ways equally acceptable to the ‘experts’ we are subjected to daily.

    Anyone who thinks that the ambition for high political office doesn’t require personal selfishness that totally outweighs any notion of familial responsibility is plain daft.


  14. George R says:

    ‘Sunday Times’:

    “Tories put BBC on notice on licence fee cut”



  15. George R says:

    “Greedy Beeb bosses make MPs seem good value”



  16. deegee says:

    For all I know this piece is accurate but it does fall neatly into the BBC narrative. The message, we shouldn’t be afraid because Muslim intentions are benign.
    Monastery now interfaith centre
    A once-abandoned monastery in the middle of the Syrian desert has become an important centre for interfaith dialogue.
    Deir Mar Musa, or St Moses Monastery, was revived by an Italian Jesuit priest as a place where Christians and Muslims could worship and study side by side.

    Muslems in Christian institutions? Not to worry they are very friendly, in Syria no less.

    I’m still waiting for the follow-up piece showing Christians worshipping and studying together with Muslims in a Muslim institution, even one that had been abandoned. I expect to be waiting a long time because there are none.


  17. deegee says:

    Huh? It’s a filler but there is a strange logic not to mention ignorance of the road rules in this BBC report.

    A Texas driver has driven his $1m Bugatti Veyron into a saltwater marsh, after apparently being distracted by a low-flying bird.
    The driver said the pelican swooping into sight caused him to drop his mobile phone – and he swerved into the water when he reached down to pick it up.
    Police say they do not know if the car can be salvaged, but the driver was not injured in the incident.

    The driver was talking on his mobile phone (illegal); bent down to pick it up (suicidal) but the bird was the cause?


  18. Martin says:

    I see the BBC are ‘bigging up’ the idea of a hung Parliament to keep the Tories out of power. Poor BBC they really are desperate for  anything.


  19. Philip says:

    More WonderBama – making this seven straight days that The One has been top story on BBC Online News. Now the Fake Crusader has swooped into deepest Burma to rescue Aung San Suu Kyi, it appears. Give him a Nobel! No, wait… *DONT_KNOW*


    • deegee says:

      ‘Bama in Burma? 🙂

      Will he be successful? Will Burma be so overawed by a ‘request’ from the Chief Executive that they will release Aung San Suu Kyi?

      The Obama administration has said it favours cautious diplomatic engagement, with sanctions against the regime remaining in place until real progress on democratic change is made.

      I guess the answer is NO.


  20. John Anderson says:

    While Obama has been in Asia ther has been HUGE anger in the US about the decision to run a civilian trial in New York of self-confessed 9/11 plotters,  including the mastermind.  Comments like “the worst decision by ANY US President,  ever.”   “Obama is trying to put Bush on trial”  “Dangerous and irresponsible”  “Insult to all who lost loved ones on 9/11”  “This gives a platform to defame the US”

    Nowhere on the BBC have I heard proper reflection of this firstorm of protest.

    Here’s a flavour :





    • deegee says:

      A triumph of justice? 
      New York voices on 9/11 trial 
      New York 9/11 trial ignites row 
      Is there a correct decision in this case? All the possibilities have their pluses and minuses. 
      I’m glad I don’t have to make this call and thankful that the BBC doesn’t seem to have taken a side.


      • John Anderson says:


        The correct decision woud have been to send them to a military tribunal – Congress has already added plenty of safeguards for defendants.

        They were involved in an act of war – acting overseas  That requires military justice,  not this chance to parade Islamist justifications and propaganda before a civil court, 


        • deegee says:

          John Anderson,
          The correct decision woud have been to send them to a military tribunal

          I have said before on this blog that the failure of the Bush administration to define the Guantomo prisoners as either criminals or POWs (or a new status as yet unknown) would come back and bite them – and it has.

          A military tribunal would have the following disadvantages:
          a/ Defining al Qaida as soldiers would be a major propaganda victory for the terrorists.
          b/ Simple Prisoners of War are almost never tried because killing people is what a soldier does. To justify a trial the Act of War must be defined as a war crime and that usually is only for high officers. I think Guilliani, a man I greatly respect, was wrong here. If the pilots who bombed Pearl Harbour had been caught they never woulkd have been brought to trial.
          c/ In the normal scheme of things POWs are released at the end of hostilities they are not executed. That would be a war crime.
          d/ The military tribunal, we are told, will not admit evidence such as the (in all probability true) accusation that torture was used on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Before someone says he had it coming, think how we react when a soldier is captured and tortured.

          I probably could go on. My point is that the decision is far from clear cut and maybe all answers are in some way wrong.


      • John Anderson says:


        My main point is that the BBC has failed to report the huge storm the decision has caused.   Headlines right across the US press,  I’ve heard virtually nothing on BBC.

        And why haven’t they reported it ?  Any chance its because lots of people are calling Obama and his Attorney General dangerous idiots ?


        • deegee says:

          John Anderson,
          My main point is that the BBC has failed to report the huge storm the decision has caused. 
          Three links in my reply, above.


  21. deegee says:

    This IS tongue in cheek, isn’t it? The recipe on how to cook dog meat seems serious enough.
    Time to eat the pets?  
     Justin Rowlatt | 08:00 UK time, Sunday, 15 November 2009 
    Following on the same warmist logic we should kill our kids and then commit suicide to save the planet. If my daughter keeps up that insolent teenage attitude I may think about it.


  22. George R says:

    The BBC only refers to the local conflict between Muslims in the Saudi Arabia-Yemen area:

    “Saudis ‘renew Yemen bombing'”


    A broader, non-BBC picture, of conflict between Muslims in the Middle East is provided here:

    “Saudi-Iranian tensions increase”



  23. George R says:

    Chalk it up: BBC uses ‘jihad’ word to correctly (and rarely) describe the frightening examples of convicted Muslims plotting hostile plans against British people from so-called high security jails:

    “Islamists promote jihad in jail”


    Oppose all Islamic immigration; no dhimmitude towards Islam, and its supporters; tougher security against Islamic jihadists in jails.


  24. Pounce says:

    Part 1

    The bBC and its pro Islamic bias.

    Cordoba, the city with many faiths
    During the 10th Century, Muslims and Jews who did not convert to Christianity in the Spanish city of Cordoba faced torture or death. David Edmonds examines how the historic clash of the three religions in the city has left it with a tangled legacy.
    Err not exactly bBC, once the Spanish kicked out the Islamic invaders and rulers of their lands they made a proclamation that all Muslims and Jews had to leave or convert. The Muslims crossed the water and the Jews went to Italy where they kick started the Italian Renaissance.
    It was a mosque for hundreds of years. It was the second-largest mosque in the world. And with its marble and onyx columns, its arches and exquisite blue tiles, it still looks like a mosque.  Yet, slap bang in the middle is a garish, gothic cathedral – plonked here by the Christians, who conquered Cordoba in the 13th Century.
    I wonder why the bBC leave out just who the Christians conquered Coroba from in which to plonk their  garish, gothic cathedral. I mean would the bBC use the very same adjective for the Hagia Sophia in Turkey?


  25. Pounce says:

    Part 2

    Abdul was actually born a Christian, but converted to Islam 30 years ago. He has embraced a culture as well as a creed. Dressed in flowing robes, he now runs a Middle-Eastern style coffee house, complete with little fountains and hubbly bubblies. “When I heard about the last prophet,” he said, “becoming Muslim seemed the logical thing to do.” His devout Catholic mother had an injunction and a wish. First, “do not tell anybody,” she said. Second, “I want to kill you”.
    Other than pyrolyzing for Islam I wonder if the bBC would like to explain why Abdul unlike a lot of ex muslims is still alive. Under Christianity we are taught to turn the other cheek, under Islam you are taught to chop off the head of the unbeliever.  

    The period under Islamic rule was a utopia of tolerance, where Jews and Christians could co-exist and the three monotheistic faiths lived in blissful harmony.

    Ah that old snippet.


    • George R says:

      Yes, the BBC has commissioned at least 5 pro-Islamic versions of Islamic imperialist history over the past 5 years.

      In short, the BBC presents only pro-Islamic versions of Islamic imperial history, whether it be an anti-Christian mantra about the Crusades, or as pro-Islamic myth about the Islamic conquest of Spain and large parts of France. Typical was Muslim Rageh Omaar’s series. He is appropriately  now based with the Islamic TV channel Al Jazeera, making the small ideological step from the dhimmi BBC.

       The  following historical view is banned from the BBC:

      “The Myth of the Golden Age of Tolerance in Medieval Muslim Spain”



  26. Pounce says:

    Part 3

    There was an era of relative leniency from the 10th Century, but with Christian armies re-conquering territory from the north, and fundamentalist Islam from the south, moderate Islamic rule soon descended into brutality and fanaticism.
    According to the bBC  the reason why Islam is so brutal is because the Spanish kicked them out after peacefully occupying the country for hundreds of years.

    Jaime Casses, the Christian-Jew determined to resuscitate Jewish life. “Cordoba is one of the most important cities in our history,” Jaime had told me. “So for me it is a duty.”
    And there lies the reason according to the bBC why jews are evil and cannot be trusted, It is their duty to bring Judaism to the world.
    And people try to tell me there is no bias in the bBCs reporting.


  27. Guest says:

    As it may not make it to a wider audience (entire country broadcast vs. a blog read by about six folk, inc. me *DONT_KNOW*  

    I am Chair of the Steering Group for the Institute of Mechanical Engineers UK 2050 Energy Plan and note this morning that Sophie (standing in for Andrew Marr) in her interview with Ed Milliband has quoted our report. I think she said we were recommending 30 new nuclear power plants. Ed Milliband therefore disagreed with this number. Please note that our report suggests “about 16 power plants…by 2030…and another 4 by 2050”. Please could you check and correct. 

    Dr Alison Cooke CENG, Cambridge
    Editor’s note – Sophie Raworth did say the Institute of Mechanical Engineers’ report recommended 30 new nuclear power plants. We apologise for our mistake.



  28. George R says:

    BBC: shielding Islam –

    “Five arrested during terror raids”


    The words ‘Islam’ and ‘Muslim’ are omitted from BBC ‘report’ from Manchester.

    From ‘Manchester Evening News’:

    “A reloigious leader is among five men arrested on suspicion of terrorism.

    “The Muslim preacher and three others were arrested in raids across Greater Manchester this morning.

    “The man, who has not been named, teaches the Koran at a number of mosques across the region.

    The 62-year-old was arrested at his home on Willows Lane, Deane, Bolton. ”



  29. George R says:

    A rare sound on BBC Radio 4 tonight: of discussion of Britain leaving the E.U.


    ‘EU Referendum’ anticipated the tone and the omissions of the programme:

    “The little Beeboids must be getting a little worried about their favourite construct..”


     When will the BBC next devote 30 minutes of radio to discussing Britain leaving the E.U again? In 10 years?


    • John Anderson says:

      George R

      The programme was nottoo bad,  the bits I heard.   Gisela Stuart seemed to be the pro-EU person,  and she made some ridiculous exaggerations that were easily demolished.

      I was amazed to be hearing it !


  30. Guest says:

    Just a suggestion, but would a daily, new open thread not be useful for ‘other topics’ as they arise?

    Anyhoo, from Ch4’s twitter feed:

    channel4news   BBC appoint Alex Gubbay as its first social media editor. Is this the same @AlexGubbay with all of 37 followers no Twitter history?

    Meiow. Don’t they know about the policy of market rate talents, successfully mirroring Gordon’s Government Of All Talents herd and its awesome track record of stars and successes?


  31. Roger C says:

    The BBC today in there normal anti Cameron mode have in their “Queens Speach to be Shameless” puff piece the results of a Gardian poll suggesting the Tories down 2 points. How come there is never a poll quoted when the results are the other way?


  32. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Trust the BBC to make sure to defend the Somali pirates who just took the Spanish for $3.5mil.

    Is there a valid reason to explain how they just can’t help themselves every time? Or is it that the Beeboids sympathize with their plight, so can’t just report on the events without editorializing and projecting?


  33. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Remember how the disgusting Mark Mardell acted all innocent about why the health care debate “got so heated”?  He blogged about some idiot biting off someone’s finger during a scuffle at a town hall meeting about Nationalized health care, and coyly wondered how things got to that point.  The guy who got his finger bitten was the one who started the fight, and – of course – he was one of those against ObamaCare.

    Mardell chose this one incident to get his readers thinking because the guy who threw the first punch was not an Obamessiah supporter.  He could have picked an earlier – and much more outrageous – example of violence at one of these protests.  SEIU (union) thugs beat up a black man who was protesting against ObamaCare, but he didn’t.  But that would hurt his side, so the BBC hid that from you.

    Now here’s more violence and attempted suppression of protesters by the the far-Left.

    More Liberal Violence

    Marxist thugs from International ANSWER assaulted people protesting against a Leftoid favorite issue – amnesty for illegal immigrants.

    The BBC won’t ever tell you this either.  The SEIU is closely associated with the Obamessiah Administration, and ANSWER organizes many of those anti-Capitalist (violent) protests that the BBC loves to support.

    The violence and suppression of freedoms is coming from the Left.  The disgusting Mark Mardell and Kevin Connolly, and the rest of their biased BBC colleagues, won’t tell you that.  The BBC will not only hide the truth from you because it doesn’t fit the Narrative, but will even try to make you think the opposite might be true.  They’ll even tell you that we’re really just racists, haters, etc.  Your license fee pays for liars and propagandists in support of the domestic agenda of a foreign leader.


  34. George R says:

    BBC’s top story: An Oxfam report, based on 704 Afghani comments – that the cause of the war is not ISLAMIC JIHAD (a question not asked) but ‘poverty’.

    Yes, give to Oxfam: Afghani Muslims are killing our people  because of poverty?!

    “Afghanis ‘blame poverty for war'”



  35. Gerald says:

    Great interview between Evan Davies and Michael Gove this morning.

    The gentleman on here who measures the “interruption factor” would have had his red light flashing nearly continuously.

    MG clearly said that the government had overseen an increase in EXTREME poverty. ED bleats that POVERTY had fallen under this government.

    MG really had no opportunity to make his point about the totality of HMG’s pointless programme because of ED’s insistence on virtually restricting the discussion to “poverty”.

    I did not hear ED’s “interview” with the P.M. the other day but feel fairly sure we have here another fine example of the expression “chalk and cheese”.