Following in from yesterday’s post about those Pakistani Muslims convicted on grotesque sex crimes against young white girls, I tuned in to Today this morning to see how the BBC would develop this story. It was exactly as feared. They wheeled on the Deputy Children’s Commissioner Sue Berelowitz who explained that the grooming of young girls for sex is a crime going on in every community, not just the Asian community. (7.09am) She was permitted to parrot the official line that this organised grooming of young white girls happens in all faith groups and all ethnicities and it is totally wrong to think this is just an “Asian” or, heaven forbid, Muslim male problem, Phew – that’s alright then. I’m just wondering why the BBC as our State broadcaster seems to spend little time reporting on gangs of marauding Methodists of packs of rampant Presbyterians committing similar vile crimes. The BBC has a dog on this fight – it is out to PROVE that Muslim men do not have a problem here and do no constitute a threat to our society. They will do this despite the evidence that points otherwise.
HAMMERING THE POINT HOME…
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I reposted this with link and it was picked up on by a member of the controlled opposition here in Australia- but still, extra publicity even from powder puff “conservative” journalists is good. More exposure the better.
I’m just wondering why the BBC as our State broadcaster seems to spend little time reporting on gangs of marauding Methodists
Funny you should mention that, because the BBC is quite happy to collude with the States of Jersey in its attempts to sweep decades of physical, sexual and emotional abuse of children in care by its establishment – many of them prominent members of the Methodist Church, another the leader of the local Jewish community. Wonder why…
As Ed West rightly points out in the DT today, the liberal left are jumping through hoops to show that this vile crime is not a race issue when every indication is the opposite.
He goes on to say “The BBC this morning went out of its way to deny there was a cultural element to this phenomenon”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100157036/why-liberals-turned-a-blind-eye-to-the-grooming-of-girls/
Anne Cryer, a Labour MP, has highlighted this and drawn attention to the paralysis that gripped police and social workers in coming to terms with the racial nature of the criminal activity taking place. It now transpires that up to 50 young white girls may have been used and abused by Pakistani males.
The police and social workers were gripped by a fear of being accused of ‘racial prejudice’. Arch exponents of wielding such accusations are members of the BBC
Hello TPO. Hope the view’s still as impressive from your window!
Still as fabulous as ever thanks Craig.
Have a gander at this.
Most of it is less than two hours drive away.
Glad to hear it TPO.
I was going to respond with one of the thousands of YouTube videos that show the glories of Morecambe. Unfortunately, there aren’t any.
Believe it or not, this is the least depressing one:
(Still at least it ain’t Rochdale).
What can I say Craig. I think I almost lost the will to live watching that.
As ‘Jihadwatch’ comments, MSM from INBBC to ‘Daily Mail’ obfuscates of the issue of Islam in this and many other such cases.
‘Jihadwatch’:-
“UK: Muslim forced prostitution gang found guilty”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/05/grooming-gang-found-guilty-nine.html
If only the scumbag grooming gang had had the foresight to recruit a random white man into just one of their incidents of gang rapes, the Pakistani connection would have been totally obviscated by the BBC , the Guardian et al.
The repulsive BBC is using this as another attempt to portray poor Islam as the eternal victim. What a tragedy it would be if somebody ended up criticising the Islamic ideology as a result of this mass prolonged rape of underage girls! It’s all the latte sipping faux liberals at the BBC care about.
It’s their fault stuff like this happens as the police are too scared to act in case the BBC organise a withhunt against them. Let us not forget that Labour and Lib Dem councillors in the area acted as character witnesses for these beasts!
Haven’t heard it said yet, but there’s still time: if the girls had dressed appropriately, these poor men wouldn’t have been tempted now would they.
Compulsory burkas for all. Hail Sharia!
Quite!…and where are the feminists?
One single police officer in Toronto made a foolish and clumsy remark wherein he suggested that to remain safe, “women should avoid dressing like sluts”, which prompted a series of so-called ‘slutwalks’ in cities across the world.
Perhaps they could start to address the very REAL and current threats to women around the world, or in this case young girls, rather than confronting a convenient straw man with affected outrage and a deeply contrived protest movement.
In our morally inverted world, it appears that words are now considered to be a much greater cause of harm to individuals than mere actions, but these are real victims, with wounds much more serious than the offended sensibilities of the permanently indignant. It’s time to take aim at the genuine targets, however awkward that might be for some.
don’t go there?
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anyone but not her.
The British MSM, BBC-NUJ included, show much interest in fate of girl Madeleine McCann (and good luck to her parents in finding her), but much less interest in the fate of Charlene DOWNES.
http://www.libertiesalliance.org/2011/03/27/english-
defence-league-edl-blackpool-demo-justice-for-charlene-downes/
“60 girls groomed for sex at takeaway shops in Blackpool .”
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/33717
“Police Protecting Paedophiles: Time for British Freedom Police Commissioners?”
http://britishfreedom.org/police-protecting-paedophiles-time-for-british-freedom-police-commissioners/
‘A Channel 4 documentary that claims Asian men in Bradford have been “grooming” young white girls for sex was withdrawn hours before it was due to be broadcast last night after the police warned it could spark racial violence’. Looks like the Liverpool case could be the tip of the iceberg, then. The police and BBC (by giving airtime to the likes of Vaz) are placing these scum beyond criticism and making them unaccountable for their crimes in case it sparks ‘racial violence’. What a weak, mealy-mouthed, appeasing nation we have become. And the sooner Vaz wakes up to the fact that his ridiculous excuses for these people only oils the wheels of the BNP recruiting machine, the better.
All these vile politically correct racists have a lot of blood on their hands. Putting the interests of vile child rapists above the interests of victims, in order to “be sensitive to cultural sensibilities” is a grotesque, sick and criminally irresponsible act.
Couldn’t agree more, Doggywoggy.
Churchill on Hilter’s ‘Mein Kampf’……”the new Koran of faith and war: turgid, verbose, shapeless, but pregnant with its message.”
‘Pakistani’, ‘Asian’….how about the truth ‘Muslim’….because…. “They think (are told to think)that white teenage girls are worthless and can be abused without a second thought; it is this sort of behaviour that is bringing shame on our community.”
That was said by Mohammed Shafiq. Humphrys told us Shafiq was appalled by the crimes ‘and he was a Muslim’…inferring exactly where the problem lies.
What do all these people implicated in such crimes have in common, which sort of country do they originate from?……Martin Narey, chief executive of Barnardo’s, said: “I certainly don’t think it’s just a Pakistani thing. My staff would say there is an over-representation of people from ethnic minority groups among perpetrators – Afghans, people from Arabic nations, Pakistanis. But it’s not just one nation.”
He called for more research and said: “I don’t think this is so much about targeting white girls – because there black girls are also victims – it’s about targeting vulnerable, isolated girls.’
Indeed even some ‘Asian’ girls might be groomed…however they are not Muslim Asian.
If you’re not Muslim you’re worthless.
Narey when in the Prison service banned his officers from being a member of the BNP.
I’ll bet he welcomed Muslims with open arms.
‘It must now be obvious that the objective of the Islamic jihad is to eliminate the rule of an un-Islamic system, and establish in its place an Islamic system of state rule. Islam does not intend to confine his rule to a single state or a hand full of countries. The aim of Islam is to bring about a universal revolution. Although in the initial stages, it is incumbent upon members of the party of Islam to carry out a revolution in the state system of the countries to which they belong; their ultimate objective is none other than world revolution.’
(Jihad Fi Sabillilah: Jihad in Islam by Sayyid Abul Ala Mawdudi “– Chapter 3, Pg 10)
Gina Khan is a British Muslim woman who lives in Birmingham and campaigns against extremism….
‘The area has been Islamised. Mosques, mini-mosques and madrasas rise up on almost every street corner, but there is nothing for the youth. Drugs and crime has made the area unsafe for young girls. Social services and the police know what is going on.
I have witnessed anti-west and anti-Jew posters and leaflets appear in shops run by young bearded Muslims. I watched the Islamists mobilise the Muslim community right under my nose. Before 9/11 the time I could not name it, but I knew something was not right, but it was being done in the name of Islam.’
Churchill:
“But the Mahommedan religion increases, instead of lessening, the fury of intolerance. It was originally propagated by the sword, and ever since, its votaries have been subject, above the people of all other creeds, to this form of madness.”
Narey’s outpourings only serve to illustrate how well co-ordinated the Left are when it comes to circling the wagons on issues such as this, and how far they have infiltrated the institutions of Britain, especially ‘charities’.
Interview with Gina Khan here:
Click to access d12Interview.pdf
So I thought I’d have a quick look for websites where moderate Muslims have a voice. Could only find US-based ones, example here:
http://www.freemuslims.org/about/
So they do exist, but perhaps not in the UK? (fear could be a reason if you look at Gina’s experiences)
Anyway, have never heard her on IN-BBC, has anyone else? Brave lady, and one you would hope more moderates would rally behind.
Note how MSM (BBC-NUJ included) politically filter negative reports on e.g. the crimes of the many Muslim sex gangs in Britain by deferring to Islamic lobbyists such as the Ramadhan Foundation, as here:
“Muslim campaigner says grooming scandal has exposed problem” ( -Really?)
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1493257_muslim-campaigner-says-grooming-scandal-has-exposed-problem
The MSM (inc INBBC) enforces strict political censorship in its inaccurate reporting of Muslim sex gangs as ‘Asian’; but then we non-Muslims are told, on MSM, by authentic Islamic apologists, to accept that the sex gangs ARE Muslim!
So Muslims politically dictate to MSM on how Islam issues are, and are not reported!
And in the case of INBBC, we licencepayers have to pay for being lied to!
The Devil’s greatest trick was to convince people he didn’t exist.
1899. Entitled “The River War: An Account of the Reconquest of Sudan”, Churchill wrote on pages 248-250 of the second volume: “”How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. “Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science – the science against which it had vainly struggled – the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
She repeated her ‘findings’ so many times it’s pretty obvious she’s pushing an agenda which dovetails nicely with IN-BBC’s defence of all things Islam. No room for former Labour MP Ann Cryer to be interviewed, of course, who has been campaigning to raise awareness of and have something done about this issue for several years. As for exploring a possible link between unhappy arranged marriages and grooming of underage white girls – don’t even go there. Then to put the icing on the BBC denial cake, I read of a girl victim quoting one of the guilty men as saying ‘You white people train them in sex and drinking so when they come to us they are fully trained’. Nothing racist in that, not worth mentioning, nah, move along. As for PC (not Police Constable, the other one) Plod’s performance in this whole sickening case, they’re just the BBC in uniform.
“The Police – just the BBC in uniform”
Priceless.
No accusations of BBC bias here but I hadn’t realised, before hearing Vaz on Today this morning, that this is all the fault of the BNP: Vaz fell short of accusing the BNP of perpetrating the rape etc itself but, apparently, it is guilty of everything else (and thus the actual perps are, perforce, victims of a greater crime than rape ie racism). Apparently “only” 30+ % of this type of crime (according to Vaz) is perpetrated by “Asians” while whites are guilty of about 3/4% more: in Vaz-world it’s obviously a “white” crime. Even Humphrys was moved to remark that this was disproportionate to the “Asian” population in the UK.
In the same discussion, Neary trod on eggs but still managed to admit that the perps of this type of crime were disproportionately “Asian” but (thank God – or Mohammed), even so, these crimes in general and this one in particular (ie Asians targetting white girls) were not “racist” – so at least that bit of the criminality can be swept under the carpet.
This has been a difficult couple of days for the BBC but I think we can be confident that, what with the Queen’s Speech, the fall-out from the French and Greek elections and Boris “scraping” home, this will be old – and ignored – news by Friday.
The oleaginous Keith Vaz was bad enough today to put anyone off their breakfast. But maybe he did protest too much – his repeated attacks on the BNP could well help recruit members for them.
What was really appalling was that Humphrys and the BBC generally fail to do proper research – fail to press Vaz and others on the clear fact that there has been a stream of cases involving MUSLIMS – mostly PAKISTANI born or bred. People see these cases being reported on TV and in the press, they see the mugshots of the evil perpetrators of trafficking of large numbers of underage girls – mostly white. There is a clear pattern. And the pattern will continue as more cases are brought to prosecution.
So who do they believe – Vaz and the BBC, or their lying eyes ? Certainly in the districts most affected, people know damn well what the true picture is.
Certainly the residents of Blackpool are well aware of the truth. The police there were so useless as to be a great help to the perverted rapists and murderers and were incremental in ensuring that the murderers actually did get away with murder.
…and not to forget Becky Brooks’ forthcoming appearance at Leveson – any chance to link her to Cameron will soon have them, back on the scent, frothing.
No doubt Newsnight, Today, Dame Nikita, Rasher Bacon and Dimbleboid will all be in editorial strategy meetings, as we speak…And no doubt Miliband, Watson, Bryant, Mark Lewis, Huge Rant (and others) already have their BBC appearances booked !
Also worth noting that Labour and Lib Dim councillors came forward as character witnesses for these disgusting pieces of peado filth, and UAF held a rally in support of them!
Yep, what a perfect example of BBC balance Today was: a debate between Keith Vaz and Martin Nairey, a member in good standing of our permenant quangocracy.
A guy who tuned in halfway through would have thought that it was BNP members who’d just been convicted of mass rape. It was a classic case of the ‘Muslim Groups Warn of Backlash After Tomorrow’s Train Bombing’ School of Journalism.
To the point: the BBC’s coverage was the opposite of journalism. Instead of informing the public, they’re seeking to bamboozle the public: pay no attention to the jihadist behind the curtain.
The elephant in the room here is what would happen if the truth, like the proverbial genie, really did come out of the bottle? There is already a polarisation of communities developing in this country and the first to see it were the poorer folks in our inner cities. They have been ignored and overrun and the result has been the growth of so called far right organisations and web sites.
Is the situation getting better? No of course it is not and this feeling of being oppressed is spreading. You will now go to prison for having a drunken rant about it on a train, teenagers are locked up for offensive tweets about footballers. The English football captain is going on trial for a momentary lapse in concentration and in the heat of the moment mentioning the colour of his opponent. You are vilified for organising groups to discuss it, let alone march about it. I would not be surprised if the hard left and Muslim Jihadists do not now start attacking this site. Banging on about the BBC is one thing but attacking the people of peace just because they are paedophiles is setting fire to the blue touch paper.
The BBC and most of the other media, the police and yes the government are fighting a tsunami of truth that is being held in presently under the guise of racism and I fear that it will be done much more forcibly in the very near future as the denial of truth continues. It was of course predicted in Birmingham on April 20 1968 and I see that date as the start of the oppression we are seeing now. The first casualty in a war is truth. The second is lives.
My thoughts exactly.
Umbongo said that other events will ensure that this is old news by Friday. This is true in the world occupied by BBC employees, chief constables and party leaders, but it will not be “old news” in places like Rochdale, where the resentment will fester.
As for our cowardly Plod – for years they held back for racial reasons, now they are telling us that there is no racial element.
Meanwhile, Doreen Lawrence says ……..
April 20 1968, ‘the rivers of blood speech’ – more like rivers of seminal fluid. I bet that never occured to Enoch Powell.
I heard Keith Vaz while driving to work this morning. It’ll take a long time to get the oil off my dashboard.
Has any of that famous BBC analysis been devoted to finding out if any other ‘communities’ contain men who target girls of another race for this kind of criminal activity while never targeting girls of their own?
We can’t really expect any serious coverage of this case from most of the media. One false word could cost someone their career, so it’s best to keep quiet and get the barge pole out just as the authorities seem to have done until they were forced to address the matter.
Reminds me of that bBC job advert yesterday, where they had to specialise in being ofay on how the Labour Party works. So I will suggest a bBC job advert for a political analyst, that will never see the light of day. “Must have an intimate knowledge of Islam especially within the Pakistani community and have an intimate knowledge of their misogynistic and prejudice views.
Positive recognition of diversity has already done that Fred. The BBC is full of them it is no longer full of people who are hideously white. I hope you have got a prayer mat and know where east is mate? NO, oh dear me that is bad do you think re-training in the ways of Mo would help, or a little time in a people of peace correction institution will help
According to INBBC headline, the nine [M*****] men
are only guilty of ‘grooming’ –
“Rochdale grooming trial: Nine to be sentenced for child sex charges”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17993003
Maybe INBBC can’t find enough political space for the short word ‘RAPE’ in its headline about some ‘Rochdale men’.
Perhaps the BBC hope ‘Rochdale men’ still conjures up images of flat-capped factory workers marching to work in their sparking clogs through cobblestoned streets.
The BBC has shifted the narrative, as is traditional with the MSM when a muslim kills anyone, towards “fears over far right extremist backlash”, thus immediately painting the muslims as the victims. In this case, the BBC is all over these “far right extremists” who were protesting outside the court, saying they were seeking to “capitalsie” on antui muslim sentiment etc. What bullshit. . I also note the police desperately scrabbling around and the uselss chief constable claiming he was “currently investigating a number of grooming gangs who are all white”. Yeah right. Possibly eastern european maybe, but I look forward to reading all about these mysterious white grooming gangs.
I have seen others mention this article, but I cannot find it. So here again http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17993003 I am sure this article has had a SEVERE air brush since yesterday.
Forget this entry, my mistake, the two articles look almost identical at the beginning, the one mentioned here is the sentencing. Sorry.
The old “delete” button was quite handy at times 🙂
I too listened to the Today apology for a discussion on this subject. When it was claimed it was across all communities and races surely the next question asked by any half decent interviewer should be; ‘Which ones? Are you claiming Hindus, Sikhs, Quakers, Chinese, Greeks, Poles, Germans, French etc.living here are also carrying out these crimes, please back up that accusation with figures’
Keith Vaz proudly informed listeners that he had not been told of any such goings on in his City of Leicester, which he then informed all those people who were born and bred there before the 1970s is Britain’s first Asian City, the only Asian city in Europe and the only one outside of the sub-continent.
The first of many he no doubt hopes. To label a City or town in Britain as being Asian is breathtaking arrogance, clearly indicating he thinks English culture and way of life should be subservient to the, he claimed, 51% of the population who are Asian.
The time will come soon when he has to rid himself of his painstakingly-acquired posh accent, like, to fit in a bit better, innit. Or get out of Leicester and move to the shires, of course.
Invicta 1066-
Vaz is not far wrong with the stats – in many areas the “demographic” is almost 100% asian. Very multiculti is Leicesteristan! Not that we were asked, mind! Wouldn’t be able to break it down into hindu, sikh, muslim, etc, etc, though – they all look the same!Bit like us, in a way. I can’t tell the difference between a methodist, baptist, catholic etc, etc, just by looking. Maybe you can tell by their activity?
The BBC would much prefer to talk about paedophilia by RC priests in Ireland 40 years ago than the Mohammedan paedophilia in this country today.
I wonder whether this case means that Mohammedanism is now undergoing a crisis of its authority, like the RC church in Ireland? No?
It will undergo a crisis of authority, yes, they will all rush off and re-read their koran and come back……EVEN WORSE!
I haven’t fully had time to disscet the North West news report last night. I’ve taped it, well digitally recorded it. The main thrust was not on the crimes but on community cohesion. They have banged off a load of statistics about only so many % being from an ethnic background, my first question to the BBc will probably be are the percentages quoted baselined in respect of the muslims being 4-5% of the population or less. Also I note despite reporting the victims had been driven around to different towns and Counties no mention of how many more “men”are involved. Does this tie in with the “asians” arrested in Oxford?
Dave Guest, the chief reporter on ‘North West Tonight’, gave a decent enough account of the crimes and the court case once his report got going but he got off to a strange start by talking at length about problems caused by “far-right groups”, including the BNP, and did so again when he returned at the end of the programme.
The really dodgy report though on ‘North West Tonight’ was by a BBC reporter called Peter Marshall (not the one from ‘Newsnight’). He was clearly given the task of defusing the race angle.
He began by himself stressing that the police were stressing that the victims weren’t targeted because they were white.
Then it was straight back to the far-right again, whose protests he equated with the crimes of the rape gang:
“An ugly crime brought ugly protests, both outside the court in Liverpool and on the streets of Haywood.”
We then heard from a “critic” of the far-Right, blogger Majed Iqbal, who said that “race really isn’t an issue.”
“Ask the police if they believe race is important in this case and the answer is straight”, continued the BBC reporter. A Greater Manchester assistant chief constable then appeared to say no, race isn’t an issue.
The CEOP assessment of 753 offenders whose ethnicity was known showed than 46% were ‘Asian’. The “data is too inconsistent to draw any national conclusions,” said CEOP.
Then it was on to a nice imam who says more openness is needed, whatever the size of the problem, as a few “individuals” are doing things that “contradict Islamic values and contradict British law” and they aren’t “reflective of our faith nor of the community.”
The BNP were then indirectly quoted by the reporter, talking about political correctness, and then a short clip of Jack Straw was played talking about “easy meat”, but Peter Marshall then stopped quoting others and gave us the official BBC view straight out:
“Child exploitation happens in ALL communities and ALL communities need to tackle it”.
It was then straight back to the nice imam to say that everyone should be united.
Just before handing back to the studio, Peter Marshall quoted the Ramadan Foundation saying the guilty verdicts are welcome.
That sort of report is what I’d expect from ‘North West Tonight’.
Another report on grooming came later that steered clear of any mention of a race/religious angle.
BBC Radio Manchester seemed more concerned with the BNP outside the courtroom than the fuckers being sentenced in it. Typical beeb, the bogeymen are the BNP protecting our daughters rather than the ‘peace lovers’ who are raping them.
“BBC Radio Manchester seemed more concerned with the BNP outside the courtroom than the fuckers being sentenced in it. ”
Here here!!!
That sums up a massive slice of what is wrong with the BBC, the left wing (so-called) intelligentsia and the “fashionable Notting Hill liberal luvvies.”
The far right gives problems to the liberal elite in that the carefully concocted consensus of their ravings is shown up for the fatuous fiction that it always was.
Yet way too much time, grants, seminars, training and salaried charities and legal monkeys has been spent on these lies for them to vacate the ground and get honest.
Orwell told us about words like “care” and ” nationality” that the State hollows out by way of meaning.
This case is at the fault line of paedophilia,Islam as practiced by Pakistani elders and zealots-and the council and government “care system” that provided the spit roast chickens so late into the night.
No wonder the likes of the jackfaced boot above…Vaz with as much creaming and cheating activity as any other oiled MP…and Narey(serial do-gooder aboard the rehabilitation gravy train) were called into the BBC to play a safe bat to hostile Pakistani bowling…usual sandbags of privilege with their brains long set in aspic.
As if Vaz could ever speak for Islam…serial greaser since the 70s.
What a pack of spent-up nightwatchmen we were able to hear on the Beeb this morning.
How much do they get for their Haw-Haw Pollyanna posturings I wonder?…start from their expenses today and work backwards…
The BBC are also implicit in the proliferation of these crimes because they tried to get a certain unpalatable messenger of a proscribed political party jailed for highlighting similar cases several years ago in a private meeting.
In a healthy society, that wasn’t riddled with liberal self-hate, a self-respecting journalist would have investigated whether those accusations were true or not. But not the BBC, they thought it more important to play political smoke and mirrors than securing the welfare of these vulnerable girls.
The BBC are complete an utter trash!
Picking up from the points made by a couple of other posters here, I can say that the coverage of this issue on the BBC has struck me as an all out attempt at turning the story on its head. The BBC have rushed to air a series of politicians from the left and quangocrats (sorry, by quangocrats I mean of course more politicians from the left). Item number one on the BBC agenda has been to put out the message that is not representative behaviour. Let’s face it the Beeb and their cohorts have had plenty of time to set their ducks in a row for this. Time during which this story has been verboten.
It all brings to mind an odd conversation which I once had with a lefty mate of mine who works fairly high up in a local authority. This local authority contains within its boundaries a potential terrorist prime target (which will have to remain nameless). Now I know this guy can be a somewhat on message leftwinger but we are friends from way back so when I asked out of curiosity ‘What special arrangements and training have you been involved in to do with terrorism?’, I thought I would get some insights into the police and security forces counter measures.
Oh no, no, no.
My mate wasn’t being evasive, perhaps he simply mistook me for a fellow lefty when he replied ‘Oh we have worked with the minority community to allay their fears of reprisals should anything happen’.
And right there you have the Beeb attitude and outlook on this.
Within a day or two – assuming no further clutch of convictions cannot avoid publicity – the Beeb will bury this episode deeper in their collective non-memory than NHS-killer Harold Shipman.
The BBC are now highlighting a new defence angle. Nick Griffin had contact with the jury.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18007678
Unbelievable!
Also notice the soft BBCspeak with the word ‘grooming’. Call it like it is you scum! They’re paedophile rapists!
In the much saner, more honest country outside Beeboid-Guardianista, people aren’t bothered by the self-indulgent obfuscations, frothing excuses, moral exhibitionism & prissy language of the leftoid cultural relativists. They can stick all their state-financed ‘nuanced opinions’ where the Sun doesn’t shine, or even up Keith Vaz’s rectal corridor. Let’s define these paedophile moon jockeys in plain English: ISLAMIC NONCES. Yes, that’ll do nicely. Their crime & their ideology in a nutshell. Well, well, I should think that the BBC’s ‘White Girl’ drama of 2008 has finally been shown up for the Cultural Marxist fantasy it always was. The emerging truth from Rochdale has proved it to be unmitigated bullshit. ‘Playwright’ Abi Morgan, choke long & hard on your Reality Pie.
BBC News24 2 o’clock bulletin:
Item 1: dull, non-descript Queen’s Speech. Fifteen minutes-plus of waffle and blather about nothing, including an uncontested platform for Chukka Umunna to indulge in coalition-bashing.
Item 2: [right wing] Spectator magazine to be prosecuted for publishing some article or other about Stephen Lawrence trial. Maximum possible penalty for this grave offence – £5,000 fine.
Item 3: Twenty minutes-plus into the bulletin. Some Asian men jailed for giving some girls free pizza and booze. Judge says victims were targetted because they weren’t from the perp’s “community or religion”. No mention of “muslim” or “Islam”. No analysis. No talking head discussion. The question of whether race was an issue is “controversial”.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100157036/why-liberals-turned-a-blind-eye-to-the-grooming-of-girls/
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Nu-Britain will be an interesting place.
Opening excerpt from Ed West’s article here:
“To understand how a modern liberal will come down on any complicated issue, simply look for a victim. It’s been the case in every major battle of the last 50 years, and it’s an almost infallible guide to Leftist thinking.
“The conviction yesterday of nine men in Rochdale on ‘grooming’ charges, a rather gentle word for the sexual abuse of children, is a classic example. Almost immediately the Guardian produced a comment piece vigorously playing down any racial element. Sunny Hundal made the same point, even while linking to a criminal justice report which seemed to suggest the opposite. The BBC this morning went out of its way to deny there was a cultural element to this phenomenon.
“Yet if the overwhelming majority of perpetrators of a particular type of crime come from one ethnic group, we can say that this crime has a racial or cultural element; if the vast majority of their victims come from another group, definitely so. To deny this seems bizarre. “
“Society failed the girls in this case and now that failure is being blamed on a weak minority group”
End Quote
Simon Nichol, defending On behalf of the ringleader of the rochdale muslim child rape gang
bbc
this 59 year old, ringleader must be one of the ahem “elders”??? m-shafiq was obfuscating about needing to engage on 5live this morning, classic diversion technique to protect the overiding islamic
influence, he kept slipping from asian/pakistani – these criminals etc … to societies to blame? er … right if he means islamic society, otherwise shameful obfuscation.
After all the founder was in his 50s when started raping his child bride too, and child captives, and theres the justification in a nutshell.
Finally now, pinpointing the pakistanis, not so keen on pinpointing the ideology which has given them their supremacist paedophile rape imperatives. though eh!
The community which turns the blind eye, because of adherrence to said ideology, and its mandated words on such abhorrent behaviour.
I actually tried to get on, to ahem “converse” with both he and that labour wet lettuce .. as usual “no dice” .. … must remember me 😀 aahhh memories
Just try to imagine a group of middle-aged Englishmen grooming, gang raping and passing on to their friends under aged Muslim girls. Would we have oily keith Vaz telling us that these are NOT racist crimes? The Beeb would be running this story for months, particularly the inept part played by the police, who had ignored the situation even after they were warned. But no, these are only white girls. As someone has already said, this will be chip paper by Friday.
True – and Vaz would be all over our TV screens to help convey to us the anger of the ‘muslim community’ at being both victimised by the perpetrators and let down by the authorities, rather than telling us all that any anger is entirely misdirected and that we should refrain from being specific about the community to which those responsible belong.
you’d have had an inquiry called by now!
The BBC News website doesn’t quote much of the judge’s verdict, but the ‘Manchester Evening News’ does, including:
‘Jailing the nine men Judge Gerald Clifton said: “You have all been convicted by the jury after a long trial of grave sexual offences which were committed between the spring of 2008 and 2010.
“These involved the grooming and sexual exploitation of several girls, aged in their early teens.
“In some cases those girls were raped, callously, viciously and violently.
“Some of you acted as you did to satiate your lust, some of you to make money, all of you treated them as though they were worthless and beyond respect.
“I believe that one of the factors that led to that was that they were not of your community or religion.”‘
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/crime/s/1493276_you-preyed-on-girls-because-they-were-not-part-of-your-community-or-religion-says-judge-as-he-jails-rochdale-sex-gang-for-77-years
The BBC website does quote the sentence in bold but doesn’t exactly draw attention to it, unlike the ‘Manchester Evening News’.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17993003
Note: Muslims play the ‘victim card’ in the appalling case of sex gang raping of white English girls, complaining that
the jury was ‘all white’.
-and then there’s the whiteness of the English girls whom they raped.
Are they going to blame the English girls they gang raped for being white?
And INBBC is silent.
So the BBC have spent the best part of 24 hours running defence for the rapists and trying to take the heat out of the natural anger and revulsion we all feel about these monsters by flatly contradicting the Judge’s OWN summing up?
(“I believe that one of the factors that led to that was that they were not of your community or religion.”‘)
Unbelievable!
I’m surprised the police even bothered in this case. In places like Leicester, Bradford, Birmingham etc. they’d jail the girls instead with the BBC/Guardian out to make excuse the muslim men.
Stephen, I have a horrible feeling that this is what will happen when the current cases are dealt with. The BBC and others of a like mind are already creating a blame the victim environment.
Man, that Sue Berelowitz is ugly, guess no muslim men would be interested in her.
Right race, wrong age.
What hit me in yesterdays main BBC tv report on the issue was when the reporter, Judith Moritz, says “far right groups protested at court about the fact that the defendants were all asian and the victims white”.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01h738k/BBC_News_at_Ten_08_05_2012/
(about 8 minutes in)
That sentence doesn’t really make any sense does it? You can’t protest about someone being in a particular ethnic group, even the BNP don’t’ expect someone to be able to change their ethnicity. I wasn’t there at the protests and I’m not paid a huge BBC salary but any sane person can see they were protesting about racism by the perpetrators and probably the racism and cover up by the authorities too. They were protesting about people’s motivations and actions, not their DNA.
There’s the obvious context to all this: the unending Islamisation of England by the ‘multicultural ‘political class (inc INBBC); this continuing Islamisation is soon to include the influx of millions of Islamic Turks in England, campaigned for by the political class of Labour, Tories, Lib Dems, BBC, Guardian, etc, in line with the diktat from E.U Brussels on entry of 80 million Muslim Turks into E.U.
We can see how the political class behave whe there are about 3 million Muslims here. Imagine how subservient and dhimmified it will behave when there are 6 million or 9 million Muslims here, as there soon will be, on demographic trends.
“The Muslim population has grown from 1.65 million to 2.87 million since 2001, say researchers. What does this mean for liberal Britain? ”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100069830/the-muslim-population-has-grown-from-1-65-million-to-2-87-million-since-2001-say-researchers-what-does-this-mean-for-liberal-britain/
“UK Muslim Population Set to Double within 20 Years.”
http://undhimmi.com/2011/01/28/uk-muslim-population-set-to-double-within-20-years/
Never forget “Dave” wants Turkey in…..ask your local tory MP to explain?
The police were to blame…the BNP have made it all so much worse that it might have been…and religion has nothing to do with it.
But of course Beeb, but of course..
Besides, they are British Pakistani…so blame the Empire for it then…being British….
Don`t look at the quality of care from councils…don`t look at the multikulti dream once splayed out like this…and don`t even THINK about associating this behaviour with anything in the Koran…that it IS associated with it is “beyond the limits of our enquiries”.
Always will be too-go to sites like this for your truth and stop giving the BBC any succour in its license fee stings.
Take these traitors to court and find a naval dockyard to hang them from before they flog `em all off.
In all of this The Times has reported fully and fairly for the past year. Total opposite to the BBC’s coverage.
Tpday it has the whole front page and several pages inside giving very full detail – and full background, plus its lead editorial. As its headline says – a Day of Shame for Britain. The police and social services and childrens’ homes have failed so many of these very young and vulnerable girls, the politicians with only a couple of exceptions (both Labour, as it goes) have sidestepped the issues or helped in the cover-up, and the BBC has been well in the lead in denial of the roots of the problem.
We now have a largely alien culture in our midst – with a lot of severe consequences. No-one asked us if we wanted all this, no-one takes any notice of rational and cool arguments against large-scale immigration of people from a peasant, tribal and reactionary society. And also, hardly any of the media – the only real exception is Andrew Gilligan – tries to report on the local political corruption we now face.
What I found most stark in the Times’ reports is the attitude of the defendants – even after their conviction. There was NIL contrition – it was all the fault of the girls or of Britain.
I just hope that very severe jail terms are handed out – as a lesson to the Muslim communities that they need to set their house in order. But when creeps like Keith Vaz are given the lead say – why should Muslims recognise that they are ALL becoming despised for the cultural behaviour they foster and tolerate inside their communities.?
The BBC are perpetually refining their hideous stews aren`t they?
If there`s any truth to be found and staring up at you off your plate…what chance the Beeb chefs will blend and turn it all to bland pap, and the original sources of the food will long have been reheated beyond recognition?
Then come the BBC spices and their waiters of dumb insolence and arrogance. No prospect of you ever knowing who spat in your burger before is was slopped out on your plate…£147.50 whether it`s edible or not.
Just swallow their crap until they can cook the books and reduce history to ever-nouvelle cuisine for their fellow-snobs and bores.
I never leave their damn place without wanting to throw up.
You’ll notice the BBC are now running with the story that a tweet from the BNP leader will likely to lead to an appeal that the jury was biased.
The message the BBC are obviously trying to give now is that the men are probably innocent and this is all the fault of the BNP who compromised the jury.
Have the BBC reported on why the police failed to investigate this yet? Have they reported on the Labour and Lib Dem councillors who gave character references to these “men from Rochdale”? Have they done anything other than try to desperately spin the entire thing into a criticism of anyone who opposes their ideas on the sacred ideology of Islam?
The BBC’s obsession and priorities are becoming abundantly clear to everyone.
INBBC’s political campaign for the nine convicted Muslim rapists is well underway.
I have not heard or seen on INBBC any non-Muslim who has been allowed to express anger at the Muslim sex gang rapists, and how INBBC is singling Muslims out for preferential political treatment.
Wasn’t it the leader of the BNP that spoke about this “grooming” of white girls by Muslim gangs some years ago. And I believe it was the BBC that covertly taped his speech and then handed it to the law who immediately arrested him. Of course it never entered their pretty little lefty heads to look into the matter themselves. I s’pose they were still too engrossed with the Stephen Lawrence enquiry…
Apologies for re-posting from another thread:
If the UK approximate population proportions were 90% white 5% Asian, and 5% other (I assume black) , then on the percentages of known perpetrators, an “Asian” is about ten times more likely to be a raping paedophile than a white British person.
It’s not a difficult calculation unless you can’t bring yourself to do it, because you believe it is your objective is to promote community cohesion.
Yet the talking heads repeat that all sections of the community are found among the perpetrators. Technically true, but basically “all” is a dishonest interpretation designed to mislead the public. And no-one is being fooled.
Another day, another contrast between the main evening news bulletins on BBC and ITV.
ITV’s main angle was to take up Michael Gove’s concerns about whether the policy investigation into the paedophile gang had been “compromised by political correctness because the gang of criminals are of Pakistani and Afghan origin”.
Penny Marshall’s ITV report said “there have been accusations that their victims…should have been helped sooner but that intervention was delayed because of concerns about appearing racist.”
Former Labour MP Ann Cryer appeared, saying “It doesn’t help to be politically correct and not say anything, just in case you offend a community. You have to put the well-being of the most vulnerable members of any community first, whether it’s Asian girls or white girls.”
The police deny that their inquiry was compromised by such concerns, Penny Marshall reported.
Michael Gove came next, saying “I want to get at the facts and I don’t think that political correctness should get in the way…”
Then a victim raped by “a group of Pakistani men” told her story and said the police were “useless.” Her mother was heard from too.
As you can probably guess, that wasn’t the BBC’s angle.
The BBC’s Chris Butler barely touched on this issue at all. Michael Gove’s concerns over political correctness were air-brushed out of the story. No Ann Cryer, of course, either. The whole report contained a lot of the usual BBC tiptoeing around the subject.
Still, at least Chris Butler’s report featured Mr. Shafiq from the Ramadan Foundation saying “Out of the recent 77 convictions, 67 are Pakistani men, the victims are white, so clearly as a community we’ve got a problem” and interviewed a Pakistani lad who blamed the girls’ parents for not keeping them in at night, which would have given BBC viewers an insight into the way that sort of man thinks.
Oh, I’ve not got the hang of putting things in bold on ‘WordPress’ yet!
And it should have said “police investigation” not ” policy investigation” in the second paragraph.
you manage to get your ‘likes’ in bold too, good move!
I wonder what the BBC reporters and presenters view would be if it was their Daughters being raped by these Muslim scumbags. Would they be quite so ‘liberal’ then?
My dear ! It would be soooo thrilling ! Our own version of “Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner” !
The BBC are playing their blame the BNP card.
The truth is the BBC were busy trying to get Griffin locked up for warning the nation that these terrible rapes were going on !!!
I may be missing something here, but doesn’t the law of our increasingly crackpot land hold these days that if a crime is committed and the victim and perpetator are of different races, then it’s automatically a racially motivated crime ?
Compare and contrast the coverage of Roman Catholic priests accused of child abuse (years ago, we are not allowed to forget it) being covered up, and the BBC and others outrage at that, compared with their own embarassment and attempts to cover up the truth in this case. I have heard that this is the tip of the iceberg!
Soon we’ll have some panorama specials about grooming by asians. I just know that albeeb want to get at the naked truth of course. In full dhimmi mode they have their heads up their own arses once more.
What a bunch of traitors we have there!
I wouldn’t even be slightly surprised if they deliberately timed their investigative report in order to reduce the impact of the Rochdale verdict.
Not much of the ‘this is a problem which isn’t restricted to one faith or community’ on that occasion, I seem to recall.
Melanie Phillips:
“The horrific consequences of the ‘Islamophobia’ witch-hunt”
http://phillipsblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/05/ithe-horrific-consequences-of-the-islamophobia-witch-hunt.html
Excerpt from Melanie Phillips (above) on ‘Today’, and Humphrys’ misrepresentations of the issues:-
“On the Today programme this morning, presenter John Humphrys laid out the tendentious parameters of the whole discussion when he said the concern was that the perpetrators were all Asian – but that concern played into the hands of the BNP. A veritable cascade of euphemisms, evasions and category errors duly followed.”
I posted the following on Melanie’s article and I repeat it here;
Melanie and other commentators have highlighted that this is more of Islamic problem than a race problem.
Taking this further the grooming and rape of young white women is just part of an ideological conflict.
Islamism like Christianity is a living religion and adherents live their beliefs based on religious teachings. The UK and greater part of Europe and North America are stable, successful cultures because the Christian culture became the unifying culture and formed the basis of our Constitution and legal systems. This banished the conflicting tribal cultures that had dominated this region for many centuries. Christianity has many qualities that make it a successful ideology because it incorporates forgiveness, charity, care of the disadvantaged and encourages and allows individuals to develop and evolve without inhibition within the community framework. Importantly it does not prescribe that all members of the community subscribe to Christianity to be part of the same society.
Islam although derived through the same routes is more dogmatic in its interpretation of adherence and rules and one of the most fundamental differences is that only adherents of Islam are considered part of recognised society. So whilst non-adherents may live amongst Muslims they are regarded as non-entities within greater society and unlawful Islamic acts perpetrated against non adherents are not regarded as such.
The rape and ritual humiliation of women has always been practiced in war and is a form of terrorism and a demonstration of superiority.
These acts of gang rape and humiliation must be seen in the greater context of the ongoing campaign of terror being waged against the West. It is part and parcel of the war of terror and should not be seen in isolation but part of greater campaign of terror.
The integration of the strict Muslim ideology within Judeo-Christian communities is questionable purely because of the distance between the 2 ideologies.
So it is completely wrong to define this as an Asian problem because, as has been pointed out, not all Asians follow Islamic teachings. Many of the Asian religions (read ideologies) have similar beliefs of tolerance within them that make those communities able to integrate happily with a largely Judeo-Christian civilisation.
This is from a Muslim, Amjad Khan, writing at ‘Harry’s Place’ in 2009….could have been written yesterday with the oily Vaz in mind:
http://hurryupharry.org/2011/02/09/muhammad-shafiq-and-the-ramadhan-foundation/
‘Firstly, the fact that so many Muslim activist types are keen to deflect criticism of any kind that they, in turn, direct all attention towards the far-right. This happens in spite of the fact that they are completely oblivious to their own passive tolerance of extremists within Muslim circles, in the case of the Ramadhan Foundation hosting Hizb ut Tahrir. Secondly, many Muslims are so fearful of the media spotlight that any type of discussion which isn’t uncritically praising Muslims and Islam is interpreted as an attack. This is usually followed by all the usual stock responses being wheeled out, i.e. most Muslims abhor terrorism, we are so well integrated already, what about the far-right etc.
The result of this dishonest and inaccurate rhetoric is that now we live in a society where mature debate about real issues is hampered at every turn. With liberals shouting ‘racist’ and Muslim activists shouting ‘don’t talk about us’ it is very difficult to make any progress. This in turn only aggravates existing tensions and allows problems to fester.
As a Muslim who acknowledges the many serious issues that affect Muslim communities in the UK, I would much prefer sensible and responsible voices being sought out by journalists. I would also like to see the far-right being deprived of fodder. But I may be waiting a while yet.’
Keith Vaz….what a disreputable waste of space, just look on Wikipedia and be amazed at the long, long list of dodgy dealings.
and how about this from 1995:
‘ Keith Vaz, chair of the All-Party Home Affairs Select Committee, which lambasted the government’s handling of asylum seekers, had previously said he wanted an Asian colony in Leicester:
It was reported on Channel 4 News around ten years ago that Vaz was secretly taped saying he ‘wanted to create an Asian colony’ in an area of Leicester, and complaining that not enough Asians were moving in and not enough whites moving out. “’They (the whites) will know when to move out … they’ll get a visit from the men in grey suits, hahaha’.” ‘
Vaz of course denies it…however only yesterday he was boasting of Leicester being Europe’s only Asian majority city…hahaha.
Just thinking about this case. Albeeb would have a much simpler job in denying the race issue if the accused had contained just one token white guy. These gangs really are being disrespectful to the MULTIKULTI principles of the moronic ruling elite. If only they had practised some kind of quota to include a token whitey the MSM would be cock a hoop (no pun intended).
Right now I’m sure gangs all over the country will be rewriting their membership criteria to celebrate diversity.
In fact why doen’t albeeb begin some diversity training for them?
To be fair – the first item on Woman’s Hour today was Jenni Murray !!! interviewing a Muslim woman who argued that it is a very serious problem that the Muslim communities need to recognise and deal with. That the terrible thing is that many of the families of men involved in the sex trafficking of young girls would not see what is wrong with it – the girls are lesser creatures.
But after several days – that is the first time have heard any interview talking real sense, facing the issues squarely – and using the M word.
John, That was Yasmin Alibhai Brown, who has been writing and talking about this for years – and about the hidden violence, forced marriages and exploitation within Asian families and groups in the UK – and not just Muslim ones either. As has Ann Cryer.
Whatever happened to journalistic curiosity? Where are the questions put to prominent female Islam apologists like Lauren Booth, Yvonne Ridley and Cherie Blair? Would they not have anything interesting to say? I’d love to watch them squirm, but seems it’s only for “spokesmen” to comment.
Don’t any of these Muslim paedophile rapists have wives or girlfriends? What did they know about their menfolk’s nocturnal activities? Wasn’t going out at midnight for chips with a condom strange? Or were they grateful someone else – little white girls – were suffering their sexual appetites instead?
Why is it left to police spokesmen to tell us what to think? What is the BBC College of Journalism fo,r apart from helping young socialists get a first job in the media?Journalism is clearly dead.
It would be more interesting to hear from Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Jack Straw and their pals about their assiduous courting and special treatment of Muslim men, with special parties for them at Downing Street at Christmas (!) and special arrangements and links with the likes of the MCB.
PS: Several of those vile paedo gang rapists had wives and indeed, children. It’s hard to contemplate the heartless evil of these lowlifes. It’s the denial and the trampling of every decency that we know and every responsibility that we recognise as adults.
I would quite like to hear Tony Blair and Jack Straw apologise for what they have done to this country. I seem to recall Blair apologised for a lot of other things not of his doing.