304 Responses to Open Thread

  1. Guest Who says:

    OT, but the pig-ignorance of our entire media estate continues to amaze.
    SKY has a popular ‘paper review’ every hour. Today’s guests were a Janet Street Porteresque peroxide sink ‘body language expert’ and a smarmy DM reporter.
    The BBC is such a lost cause they didn’t even try there.
    But the world of luvviedom is still so up The One’s fundament, that any hint of objectivity goes out the window. As I discovered when the DM creep claimed Romney thought plane windows opened, because he was so rich and out of touch.
    I’m pretty sure even in 1st class or on the Citation they don’t open either, as a globe-trotting exec may well be aware.
    This I cite as a critical piece, where the actual FACTS seem to be irrelevant still in face of agenda…
    http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2012/09/The-Sorry-Conclusion-to-Mitt-Romneys-Plane-Windows-Gate

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  2. royof the rovers says:

    time to hit your local MP with this question

    does he think the bbc is fit for purpose if he does then he agrees with their actions concerning our jimmy,if he doesnt then what are you going to do about it.depending on what they say will determine who i vote for.the local paper might like to know their answer too

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  3. Guest Who says:

    Andrew Neil ‏@afneil

    Tonight’s Panorama BBC1 special on Newsnight’s abortive Savile investigation goes out same time as #newsnight on BBC2. Strange scheduling.
    Maybe it’s so Uncurious George can claim he watched neither, which seems to be the senior BBC management response to any question on stuff they are paid a lot to oversee.
    Be interesting to ponder how that would be treated by any Minister or CEO by, ironically, a Paxo.

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  4. As I See It says:

    Dame Nicky Campbell – yet again – is keen to talk about ‘racism in football’. For about the seventeenth time. Anyone would think the BBC had an agenda. Mind you, it is encouraging some interesting debate: “Ah fink not enough is being done, innit, doh”

    There is some good news for the Beeb, however. The FA has finally acceded to all the demands of the race campaigners. It has been agreed that in future all English football club coaches, staff, players and fans will be black. The transfer of the ownership of all clubs to foreigners has, of course, already been achieved.

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  5. chrisH says:

    The BBC needs no “independent” enquiries into its employment/deployment of Sir James Savile.
    1. Two bigwigs at the BBC deem Savile to be worth only ten seconds snatched at one of their interminable “awards ceremonies”-probably “Newsnight” as best news programme 20010/11…does the Beeb DO irony any more?
    2. Newnight decided not to continue with their piece on Savile when there was “insufficient grounds” to “convict the police of a cover-up/negligence” regarding Saviles conduct….the BBC was way above the law, you see-judging the police, deciding if they were derelict….and lacking such self reflection that THEY just might be guilty of the same.
    hey, but we DECIDE the news-we are NOT it-never!
    Oh dear!
    3. The lazy buggers at the Beeb had already made the schedules and were not going to let a squitty seedy piece get in the way of the coming PR were they?…way too inconvenient, what with all those Christmas drinks and award ceremonies to attend.
    So file this under Millie Dowler-historical point scoring waving kiddie shrouds-and far bigger fish to catch( police) than mere chavvy plebs of girls in council care….oh, file under Rochdale/Rotherham as well!

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  6. chrisH says:

    Hope the USA won`t allow anybody from the BBC in to cover the elections until they`ve had a CRB check and can conclusively prove that they NEVER appeared/worked with/met with Savile.
    They have to prove beyond any doubt that they did not promote, encourage or give broadband type room to this sex offender…and they`re going nowhere until they can prove it !
    Come on USA-paedophilia is a world wide thing!

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  7. chrisH says:

    This 31 year-old who ran amok in Cardiff with a van….wouldn`t be Muslim by any chance would he?
    Only reason I ask if , when a crime IS committed by the ROP: we don`t tend to get the name of the accused without some trouble…and I`ve not heard the “accuseds” name yet.
    Hope I`m wrong by the way-no religion deserves that slurring-but the BBC have form on this, so forgive my cynicism.

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Well I haven’t heard Charlie Stayt asking any eyewitnesses ” tell me what he looked like” as he did with Brevik.
      It IS a dreadful barbaric crime whoever is the perpetrator.
      But the name must come out eventually.
      We must be patient.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Does Welsh count?
        Seems an exception was made with Mr. Bridger.
        Doubtless one of them exemption things the powers that be, and BBC, like to juggle.
        The Mail had a name, and it was not that common, but best to wait before speculating.
        Leave that to the BBC, when it feels the urge.

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  8. As I See It says:

    Nicky ‘he left the day I joined’ Campbell is still insisting that he knew nothing about Jimmy Savile.

    In an exchange with a proper jounalist the former Radio One DJ and gameshow host tries to hold the line. The jounalist says ‘Well I was on the outside of the BBC – but I heard rumours’

    Campbell stands by his former statement, we thought Savile was just an excentric, he was just Jimmy.

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    • chrisH says:

      Didn`t Nicky put up on Facebook (or whatever)his signed poster of himself with the iconic legend that was Jimmy Savile until three weeks ago?
      Methinks that Nicky won`t be putting that one up again-like the fair weather rat in a sack that a true Beeboid turns out to be.
      In their DNA, you know!

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  9. noggin says:

    the previous posts are spot on …. more absurdity
    BBC today, then BBC 5live your call debates, BBC panorama, investigating BBC newsnight, hmmm
    just like every other so called, open debate, trying to “round robin ” the discussion … epic fail this time though

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  10. Old Goat says:

    There seems to be a bit of damage limitation going on on “Toady” this morning – Naughtie seemed a bit hot and bothered, fluffed and flustered a bit, and was not on form. Methinks he protests too much …

    And WHY are they analysing the Panorama programme and drawing conclusions when Joe/Jo Public hasn’t yet had the opportunity of viewing it, and making his/her own mind up? And why, for that matter, is it on so late in the evening? is it to “protect” the kiddies perhaps? If so, it’s a bit late (if you’ll pardon the pun…).

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    • chrisH says:

      Naughtie clearly had inhaled on Saviles cigar smoke, and spluttered throughout his misfiring interview.
      Desperate , on the hoof swabbing of bits of the deck that may yet lead them to the plank!
      Walk you buggers-walk.
      Liz Mckean to get the DGs job please!

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  11. Ken Hall says:

    We all need to write, fax, email, text, twitter to our MPs demanding a full independent inquiry into whether the BBC is fit to hold a broadcasting licence in the light of allegations that the BBC systematically and institutionally enabled and covered up sexual abuse of children for decades, by senior members of staff, and on BBC premises.

    I cant see many lefties querying if the BBC is a fit and proper broadcaster. Had these same allegations been made about one of Murdochs companies, twitter would have crashed, the BBC would be leading the top 5 news items every hour with this for weeks, with commentary and “analysis” from fellow lefties screaming for all of Murdochs empire to be broken up and closed down.

    Who would have thought, this time last year, that Sinister Uncle Beeb, would make Murdoch look like a saint!

    Get writing. The BBC is NOT fit to hold a broadcast licence. And if the systematic and institutionalised sexual abuse of children is not a reason to close them down, I do not know what is!!!

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  12. noggin says:

    the ahem! BBC R4 today onto BBC 5live your calls so called “debate”, on BBC panorama investigating BBC newsnight
    what is this “round robin” damn horse and pony show eh!?

    keeps a lot of people busy?, yep obfuscating, clouding the lines etc. in fact just like every other so called “open” debate, or investigation ala – al bbc ….
    this time i think its an epic fail, on the part of al bbc
    …. but never underestimate the power of subterfuge eh
    😀

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    • chrisH says:

      Should save us on first class travel and hotels though, should it not?
      I mean-they only have to go down the corridor for their stories at the moment for their endless navel gazing.
      Let`s be grateful that it`s only navels they`re looking at , for the moment-Brands boxers was a mere sideshow for what may yet be coming.
      Mary Whitehouse was right!

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  13. As I See It says:

    I’m certainly no expert – unlike most leftists who it would seem happily claim to possess advanced psychological insights – but it is clearly apparent that this individual’s preference was for recently pubescent girls.

    Surely a symptom of someone desperate to relive their adolescence?

    What was that I hear from the John Peel wing of Broadcasting House? Your fav 45 was the Undertones Teenage Kicks? Me too back then – but I was 17 and you were already ….oh I don’t know… 45? I’ve now given up reliving my adolescence. I think drugs ought to be illegal. Criminals should be punished etc….

    Completes the circle doesn’t it….? Radio One of the 1970s, that first beachhead to the mainstream for 1960s permissiveness and pop culture.

    How funny that it all turned out to be simply an excuse and cover for the selfish gratification of the few.

    Permissiveness: an outlook that by the 1980s and 90s was de rigueur in the mind of the BBC. Legalise it, I’ll advertise it. Down with the kids (in a ‘sick’ ‘bad’ is good sense). Or…What are you protesting about?…What have you got?

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  14. David Lamb says:

    I caught this piece of news but cannot find a reference to it on the BBC. As they have covered the Abu Hamza fight against extradition with such compassion I wonder why the prospect of extradition for Tommy Robinson is not being covered. Or have I got it all wrong?
    http://britishfreedom.org/tommy-on-remand/

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    • Earls court says:

      If the BBC and the liberal establishment don’t change their ways, they will end up hanging from lamposts very soon.

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  15. Fred Bloggs says:

    The Savile stink goes ALL the way upto Boaden and Entwhisle. However I fear a sacrificial lamb called Rippon is being prepared as I write.

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    • As I See It says:

      No actual sackings at the Beeb yet? And to think that the BBC were already asking questions as to the Prime Minister’s judgement minutes after the Andrew Mitchell of gate-gate’s reluctant resignation.

      Incidentally a line that Labour politicians took up soon after the BBC had just thought of it.

      Oh and didn’t the BBC get excited about the PM’s judgement in appointing Andy Coulson?!

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  16. Alex says:

    An excellent day to be a hater of the sanctimonious BBC. Looking forward to seeing heads roll… You can be assured that if these revolting abuse scandals were within News International or the Catholic Church, the BBC would be the first in-line to lecture from the pulpit. They disgust me and I hope this is a first in a long line of wake-up calls for the British public to say no to BBC socialist tyranny!

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    • chrisH says:

      Quite right sir!
      As a white male, a Catholic by birth, a teacher and a former idiot lefty who knows the New Labour mindset from bitter experience, as a scientist who has seen what the BBC have done to science…I have plenty reasons to despise the BBC for all it has done to trash my kind, and splay this nation for perpetual lime green socialist rule by the E.U!
      Hence the galling doublespeak, cant and hypocrisy that Savile has unearthed at the very heart of the BBCs rotten empire is my revenge-our revenge-and I want them flushed down the sluice pipe of history , and fast.
      This one is for Andrew Sachs!

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  17. Guest Who says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20024904
    Not sure that getting the entire BBC intranet to hit this thread and mark down any critics and ‘like’ any boosters (or deflectors… all trotting out daft stuff like it’s a right wing plot… that their bosses covered up a co-worker’s abuses and this was then covered in headline today by the Indy and Grau and Mirror) will do much for the credibility of an entity who ‘wants your views’ but clearly has absolute control on what views ‘you’ get served back once through ‘their’ filter.
    It will be interesting to see how the numbers shape up when folk not working for the BBC or media luvvies get back from work and can vote.
    Or will it have ‘closed’ before the get the chance?

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  18. Guest Who says:

    HaveIGotNewsForYou ‏@bbcHIGNFY
    In keeping with the headlines we can announce that tonight’s Have I Got A Bit More News For You is “stepping aside”, for some Panorama thing

    When in a hole, try and find a ladder.
    I always find humour helps.
    I wonder who they may opt to push under a bus this week?

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    • Earls court says:

      i’ve got a feeling it will be some has beens from the same era as jimmy savile. People who haven’t been in the BBC for a long enough time to take down any of the current cokeheads and sodomites.

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  19. George R says:

    “Jimmy Savile and how the liberal left encouraged the sexualisation of our children ”

    By MELANIE PHILLIPS.

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  20. Dave666 says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20024904
    Ha ha ha ha . 13:00 news “the BBc regrets their errors”
    Oh and 3 more terrorist “men” on trail- They look like ——- to me (fill in the blanks yourself)

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  21. Beeboidal says:

    Newsnight editor Peter Rippon is ‘stepping aside’. No surprise there. Gardening leave before the axe falls? Entwhistle and Boaden are said to be ‘under pressure’. Let’s hope our beloved Helen’s genes didn’t let her down on this one.

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  22. George R says:

    INBBC report on court case:

    “Men accused of rucksack bomb plot”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20007532

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  23. Leftie-Loather says:

    Yes, even though they’re somehow strangely both paedo’-protecting Left ones, you can be absolutely sure (can’t you?) that the yet STILL cowardly hiden Balen Report and everything’s still in perfectly law-unto-themselves safe hands – the filthy ignoramus maulers of the godly acting and stomach churning bBC.

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  24. George R says:

    BBC-NUJ-‘Education’, ignores dumbing down, preferring black politics.

    BBC-NUJ’s Ms Richardson doesn’t have this on ‘Education’ page:-

    ‘Daily Mail’:-
    “Primary school exams to be dumbed down with shorter sentences and fewer verbs to make them easier for foreign-born pupils.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2221290/Ofqual-guide-Primary-school-exams-dumbed-make-easier-foreign-born-pupils-understand.html

    BUT, Ms Richardson does give prominence to this pro-‘black’ story, by a person who happens to be a black person:-

    “Zephaniah warns ‘black children turned off history'”

    By Hannah Richardson.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-20005342
    BBC News education reporter.

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    • George R says:

      Can one imagine the following headline on BBC-NUJ ‘Education’?:-

      ‘White poet complains about too much black victimhood in school history, and too little on Islamic imperialism.’

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    • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

      If black and Asian children want to learn more of the history of ‘their community’, there is a simple method.
      One-way tickets from Heathrow are readily available.

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  25. Leftie-Loather says:

    Leftie stuffed bBC makes me puke !

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  26. As I See It says:

    From the BBC

    “A 31-year-old man has appeared in court charged with murder and attempted murder following a series of hit-and-runs in Cardiff. ”

    “Matthew Tvrdon, of no fixed abode, faces a total of 19 charges.

    He spoke only to confirm his name and address”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-20025413

    Slightly confusing about the address – but a local man then – since we are not told otherwise.

    The ignorant Saxon that I am I thought all Welshmen were named Evans or Jones…. TVRDON, must be one of those proper Welsh names…

    Meanwhile…

    “Marek Tvrdoň (no relation?) (born January 31, 1993) is a Slovak junior ice hockey winger with the Vancouver Giants of the Western Hockey League…”

    Ah Slovakia….what do they say?….Slovakia, it is to the Czech Republic what Wales is to England.

    Damned Canadian ice hockey league, when will they learn to call their immigrant players Canadians?

    But how about that internet – unlike the BBC – what a wonderful informative thing it is.

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  27. Guest Who says:

    On the plus side it does appear that Newsnight, on occasion, can be totally accurate in its reporting:
    BBC Newsnight ‏@BBCNewsnight
    Contrary to the current twitterstorm, Newsnight can confirm Peter Rippon has NOT quit his job. Night everyone.

    Bet tonight’s episode will be a hoot as everyone watches Panorama on t’other side. I might just record it as after my bedtime. Shame the Skyplus can’t grab both as I bet Paxo will have a snappy aside or two.

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  28. noggin says:

    5live bacon … still going on and on about OBLaden
    (shakes head) i.e. Obama got him? the Obama picture of him holding court, shillary with hand on mouth
    ya da, ya da., ya da …

    all the administrations lies about the mission itself?
    the small issue of resurgent al queda? …. rich eh! ….
    libya … bengazi ?? no?
    4 terrorist murders 1st ambassador murder for 40 yrs???
    his administrations deceit over that????
    all time low on relations with israel????
    his own policies emboldening international terrorism, not stilting it ??????
    world a much more dangerous place?????? …. rich? …. anybody? …………………………… (sound of crickets)

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  29. Guest Who says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2012/10/jimmy_savile_and_newsnight_a_c.html
    I am shocked… shocked I tell you, to discover that, even as the previous ‘The Editors’ thread gets closed as things spin off the rails, this one has opened, if with pre-moderation (aka ‘censorship’) switched back on.
    For an outfit up to its neck in propaganda and cover-ups, this hardly suggests a great commitment to openness for the future.
    Questions look like still needing to be asked.

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  30. Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

    DP please delete this post!
    content not appropriate for the site.
    but does it appear embedded?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Yes, Dysgwr, the embed worked. The only thing missing, as you know, is that extra script.

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  31. uncle bup says:

    ‘A bad day for BBC journalism’.

    Every day is a bad day for BBC journalism.

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    • Earls court says:

      BBC ‘Journalism’ will get alot worser when the Guardian shuts. They just copy all the news stories straight out of Guardian.
      What will they do then?

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘Every day is a bad day for BBC journalism.’
      True, but the last few, and a few more might sneak in as maybe a tad worser.
      Which may explain the absence of cherry vultures, doubtless drafted in to waft lavender hankies over the fevered brows of market rate executives who have suddenly been confronted with a world that’s outside the bubble, and shining the spotlight that they thought was theirs alone, back in.

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  32. uncle bup says:

    ‘the explanation in a blog by the editor of his decision to drop the programme’s investigation is inaccurate or incomplete in some respects.’
    ——————————————————-

    or to put it another way – he lied through his back teeth.

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  33. chrisH says:

    Intrigued by this “stepping aside” notion.
    Was this available for Andrew Mitchell?…Harold Shipman?…
    are we paying for Rippon to gather apples in his garden or not?
    Anybody else able to tell me how the BBC is able to “set up its own inquiries” into its deployment of its perverts?
    Are the police happy to let the BBC investigate them so they can be felled?…or will they bang the Beeb to rights for years of its dirty protesting against any restraints that the police, courts, right thinking people might represent?
    The ghost of Mary Whitehouse screams for revenge…it`s the least we can do for the great lady!

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘Intrigued by this “stepping aside” notion.’
      Filed under ‘unique’, with much else, in a locked cabinet in the basement, with no stairs…

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      • noggin says:

        “never underestimate the power of subterfuge”
        is this lying shill, to be sacked, if not why not? … scrap him and his pension
        or is it the old “just for the duration of any investigation” palava … eh!

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  34. As I See It says:

    Have you noticed that when the BBC reports on political and economic issues it is rarely content to simply publish the facts. On the contrary the BBC swamps the facts with what is termed comment and context.

    Then we come to crime news. For example….

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20027067

    “Mottingham murder: Man charged over double stabbing”

    “Harold Muzeremwi, 20, and a 24-year-old man were stabbed in a flat in Kingsley Wood Drive, Mottingham, on Saturday.”

    “Delaney Barnett, of Baring Road, Grove Park, will appear in custody at Bromley Magistrates’ Court later charged with murder and attempted murder.”

    Delaney Barnett? I do like names. This chap sounds as though he has dropped out of a Jane Austin plot. Ah perhaps this was a duel. A matter of honour. Pistols Sir?…Swords? … perhaps switchblades at dawn?

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  35. As I See It says:

    I wonder whether Newsnight may be looking for something to investigate?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20024971

    “The Met were called at 23:10 BST on Saturday to reports of an assault in Montagu Road, Lower Edmonton”

    “A man, who police believe to be 28-year-old Teon Palmer, had been stabbed and was pronounced dead at the scene. Detectives said they thought those who vandalised the car knew it was his.

    Up to seven black men were seen leaving the scene after the attack.”

    The Beeb have previously looked into this sort of thing.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7773000/7773718.stm

    “The Today programme has investigated the gang culture in Edmonton, north London – and has uncovered a world where violence and revenge are rife.” [December 2008]

    Come on BBC, time for a reprise.

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  36. Maturecheese says:

    I reckon that due to the awful social engineering that has gone on over the last 15 years including the criminal act of allowing mass immigration, the BBC no longer even pretends that it is impartial as it assumes that most of the population are now left leaning. Those that aren’t are simply ignored. Bastards!!

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  37. Guest Who says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/9625806/Frankie-Boyle-awarded-54000-in-damages-over-racist-slur.html
    Given the BBC’s evident selectivity in ‘reporting’ what it doesn’t like accurately, if at all, given the core issue here and the protagonists at play, their coverage could be interesting.

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  38. chrisH says:

    Just seen some BBC Poly lecturer call by them on News 24 , en route from the health food shop.
    “Professor” Jean Seaton was so far up the BBCs fundament that she`ll need to be extracted.
    Apparently the worst we can say is that they were “rather slow off the mark” in responding to the “potential unpleasantness”.
    Oh-and the BBC are doing brilliantly now, so unlike any other media giant-and one we`d rather not name!
    The Mail and Rupert can only look on and learn eh?
    I rather expect “Professor” Jean Seaton of Westminster Poly will get her “Jim Fixed it for me” badge on the way out, once she`s been prised out of the BBcs rectum…the very bowels of the BBC being scraped as we speak!

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  39. chrisH says:

    Would recommend that you listen to Dionne Warwick on Womans Hour(Mon 22/10/12)
    If you want the BBCs agenda-vulnerable black woman in racist, nasty white mans world….God or not…smoking and healthy eating…then this is your interview.
    Brilliantly and devastatingly, Warwick knocks each BBC shibboleth out of the arena….icy, contemptuously and I find myself loving this least self-pitying of women.
    Made the mistake of advocating smoking, needing God and taking responsibility for her life and career-Jane Garvey is still weeping over the BBC manual as we speak.
    Would have a listen while you can-if this interview is not redacted and banished to a soundbite for the Omnibus on Saturday, then I`m not a champeen of Sir James…and I`m not!

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  40. Paddytoplad says:

    Ok forgive me a second, i may be using some anglo saxon language in a moment to emphasise my point but what we are talking about here is a matter of scale.

    Some reporters from NI dialed a few stupid celebrities numbers and then dialed #1234 or 3333. My friends had known about this little fault in the Nokia system for a few years and it was all quite a laugh listening to each others voice messages.

    Hugh Grant and fatty Prescott are too stupid not to change their PIN numbers so allowing the street of shame the chance to “hack in” to their voice mail.

    The hacks over step the Mark with Milly Dowler and all hell breaks lose.

    Leveson and wall to wall BBCcoverage insues and Murdoch et al get dragged over the coals.

    Why , because some people are too stupid to change the default settings on their phone. Its a bit like putting your pin code as 1234 for your cash card . If you do that then you are an idiot.

    Anyway what we are talking about here is the press using very basic techniques to news gather.

    Case 2

    Jimmy Saville was a kiddy fiddler. He carried out his abuse while employed by the beeb and sometimes on BBC premises.

    Senior BBC staff were aware. A director even caught him plowing into a jim’ll fix it winner in his dresing room. The director complained and was told nothing to see here.

    The beeb at best didnt take enough care of the young people involved in Jimmys shows. At worst they were complicit , enabling this abuser to get away with obscene things throughout his career.

    Which is worse?

    Leveson treated the Murdochs like the shit of its shoes, based on the precedent set in this case shouldnt the beeb also be treated with contempt?

    Murdoch had the decency to shut news of the screws. I only hope the BBC trust has the same courage and shuts the corrupt politically biased complacent tax dodging edifice that is the beeb.

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  41. George R says:

    Reasons INBBC dropped its ‘South Asia’ web page?:-

    My suggestions:

    1.) INBBC employs many Muslims in Pakistan and Afghanistan whose first political loyalty is to the Ummah, and to Islam.

    2.) INBBC London could not editorially control the pro-Taliban/ pro-Islam politics coming out of its heavily Muslim reporting contingent in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    So, today, INBBC has an ‘Asia’ page only, which is aimed to cover about two thirds of the world’s people; inevitably, greater space now goes to reporting China.

    In the meantime, INBBC reporting on the following is avoided:

    a.)”Pakistan: Christian teenager held for blasphemy after Muslim mob ransacks, destroys his home”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/10/pakistan-christian-teenager-held-for-blasphemy-after-muslim-mob-ransacks-destroys-his-home.html

    b.)”Afghan defender of women’s rights, hailed by Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton, has actually jailed over 100 women for adultery”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/10/afghan-defender-of-womens-rights-hailed-by-michelle-obama-and-hillary-clinton-has-actually-jailed-ov.html

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  42. David Preiser (USA) says:

    So now Gallup says Romney is polling better than winning presidential candidate since 1968.

    I thought the President won the second debate? What about that bounce, BBC?

    But remember kids, as defenders of the indefensible tell us, it’s asinine to cherry pick one poll. Unless Nate “Don’t Panic!” Silver gives his blessing, it’s not worth your time. Except, of course, all those times the BBC does it to support the angle of a particular story they’re telling. Like Mark Mardell has done in his preliminary analysis (emphasis on “anal”) of tonight’s debate. He quotes just a single poll showing the two candidates in a dead heat.

    This is part of his message that Romney faces an uphill battle tonight. Oh, and the debate won’t really matter.

    Those saying this final Presidential debate will be “crucial” or “pivotal” may be going over the top. Most Americans care more about the economy.
    But with the latest opinion poll suggesting the race to the White House is a dead heat, any chance for either candidate to gain an advantage is important. The smallest hiccup could prove a pivot or provide momentum.

    The NBC Wall Street Journal poll indicates likely voters break even: 47% for Romney, 47% for Obama.

    The most idiotic part of Mardell’s post – selected out of several – is this from the opening:

    On the high way into Boca Raton where the final debate is being held, there are a couple of large billboards showing President Obama bowing to a man in full Arab dress.

    I couldn’t spot who paid for it, but it is of a piece with the Romney campaign allegations that Obama has made America weak in the world.

    Obama campaign advisors tell me that in office Mr Romney could inadvertently stumble into new wars.

    That’s just White House propaganda. It’s not a serious statement. What, are we going to have a Jenkin’s Ear moment? Surely Romney can’t take warmongering into more new countries than the Nobel Peace Prize winner.

    Okay, one more idiotic bit:

    It’s generally thought that Mr Obama should have the edge in a foreign policy debate – after all he is the president, a novice when he came to power but now an old hand.

    Generally thought in the Democrat campaign strategists’ meetings, anyway.

    Mr Romney’s first foreign trip as candidate was a near disaster and many have judged his foreign policy pronouncements as ill thought-out.

    Near disaster? Oh, please. It’s not like he gave the PM a bunch of DVDs he couldn’t watch because they were for the wrong zone or anything.

    But his promise of stronger American leadership and his condemnation of the president as weak is potent among supporters.

    That may be a danger. Many Republicans instinctively agree that President Obama has apologised for America, and failed to lead from the front.

    Instinctively? He’s making it sound as if this is based on emotion, a visceral reaction (like racism!), and not informed by reality. It was in His maiden Cairo speech, FFS. And Mardell was praising Him at the time for not leading from the front on Libya.

    Convincing others of that in a debate with the man himself may be more tricky.

    LOL. I guess Romney’s going to lose a third time.

    I’m seriously thinking of live-blogging this debate tonight, just to compare to the dopey Beeboid analysis.

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  43. Ian Hills says:

    BBC condemns chemical castration for South Korean paedophiles.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15100393

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    • chrisH says:

      No chance!
      Not when there`s a kiddies TV show that could be made from one of them!
      Did Savile have any friends from Korea at the BBC?

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  44. johnnythefish says:

    Can we have a new Open Thread, please?

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  45. jonsuk says:

    The One Show tonight…..Alice Cooper the guest, male (unheard of) host first asks how Obama’s doing in the polls, male host says there’s quite a few Obama fans over here and something along the lines of ‘how are we doing’. Next segment was a report on Dale Farm, one year on, as if any gives a shit about the pikey scum.

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  46. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Biden supporters at a rally today are wearing t-shirts that say “FOWARD”. Curiously not retweeted by any Beeboids.

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