224 Responses to OPEN THREAD

  1. Bodo says:

    Is the BBC 6 o’clock news no longer available on iPlayer? I made a post in the ‘the BBC couldnt resist…’ thread about tonight’s edition of the 6 o’clock news and how it sided with labour over the “nothing to see here” attitude towards welfare payments and the Philpot deaths .
    I was going to make a transcript of some of the bias – possibly make an official complaint – but I see that it’s not available on iplayer. Anyone know the score?

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  2. DJ says:

    Good to see the BBC doesn’t support all public spending: the main news at 6 made sure to tell us the spendthrift Princess Kate was wearing a £425 coat.

    Truly, she is the Marie Antoinette de nos jours.

    Meanwhile, in completely unrelated news, the BBC pays Labour hack James Purnell £290K per year of our cash to do a job so vital that it didn’t exist for the first 91 years of its life..

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  3. Mice Height says:

    “I am asking for a national referendum on the licence fee. Let the people decide. It’s our family business, our money, our nation, and our future”
    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3142/the_bbc_my_family_s_business

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  4. Pounce says:

    The bBC and its one-sided reporting from the Levant.

    Currently the bBC has on its ME webpage as its top story, How Pals are protesting in the streets how an Islamic terrorist leader died from cancer whilst inside prison for masterminding terrorists attacks.

    In fourth spot we are availed to the story about how Air France refused to allow a protester to board a plane to Israel becasue she was on a no fly list, but becasue they asked for her passport and if she was Jewish, a court has classed it as racism and a European story somehow becomes Middle-Eastern.

    And slowly moving doing the page to Ninth place is the story about how Rockets were only launched from Gaza into Israel after the IDF fired 2 missile’s into an empty field in response to 10 rockets fired into Israel this past month. Here is how Canadians heard about what is happening in the ME:
    Rockets from the Gaza Strip were again fired at southern Israel this week, but Israelis responded in a remarkably restrained manner. After three rockets were launched Tuesday in the general direction of the town of Sderot, Israeli forces replied with two missiles in early hours Wednesday morning into an open field in northern Gaza. No one was injured by either side’s weapons. Indeed, it would seem that Israel’s action – firing into an uninhabited area when no one was likely to be present – was not intended to harm anyone. Rather, Israel may be testing the resolve of Khaled Meshaal, who was just re-elected as leader of Hamas, the militant Islamic group that rules Gaza, and whom many regard as a moderate. Israel “decided to attack overnight in order to signal to Hamas that we will not suffer any strike on the south,” said Brigadier-General Yoav Mordechai, the chief military spokesman, speaking on Army Radio.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/israel-offers-muted-response-to-gaza-rockets/article10762123/

    I wonder why the bBC hasn’t mentioned the above snippet.

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    • Pounce says:

      Anyway while the bBC is more than happy to promote the angle that the Jews have bombed their Mullah. Has anybody noticed where they have reported how for the third day running rockets and missiles have been launched into Israel. (All they write is The Israeli military said that several rockets were fired in Gaza early on Thursday. One crossed into Israel, causing no injuries) See if you can find it.
      Here is how the Times of Israel reports that story:
      http://www.timesofisrael.com/rocket-mortars-fired-into-israel/

      Also did you know that Egypt has demanded that Hamas explains itself why it is allowing the firing of weapons into Israel during a ceasefire. No?
      http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/166755?#.UV31Gzvci1I

      Did you know that Hamas has arrested two people on charges of firing into Israel, No?
      http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-reportedly-detains-two-for-rocket-attacks-on-israel/?

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      • George R says:

        “BBC Gaza reporting ‘misleads’”

        By Anna Sheinman

        http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/104571/bbc-gaza-reporting-misleads%E2%80%99?

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        • Pounce says:

          So has anybody read this cress-pit of misinformation from the bBC which you know the hordes of British youths with their ‘A’ levels in History will lap up as the truth. I give you:
          The bBC’s Palestinian territories profile
          “The Palestinian population of around ten or eleven million people is divided between historic Palestine and a diaspora, mainly in neighbouring Arab countries…”
          OK , nothing wrong here,then it goes downhill:
          “The war that followed Israel’s declaration of independence in 1948 saw the former British mandate of Palestine partitioned between Israel, Trans-Jordan and Egypt. “
          Anybody know whom the War was between and who started it? I presume that when Israel declared themselves independent they attacked the poor Pals who lived in historic Palestine and then occupied their land. I wonder why the bbC left out that 5 Arab nations (Egypt, Syria,Iraq,Lebanon and Jordan) invaded the new state of Israel with the aim of wiping out the Jew once and for all.
          “The Palestinian national movement gradually regrouped in the West Bank and Gaza, run respectively by Jordan and Egypt, “
          Run bBC. don’t you mean occupied? You know, like how you describe how Israel did when it captured Gaza and the West Bank in 1967:
          “The Israeli occupation of the West Bank,”
          I did like this statement from the bBC;
          “In 2005, Israel completed the withdrawal of all its troops and settlers from the Gaza Strip “
          But hang on, what’s this the bbC has to say right at the beginning:
          “Efforts to create a Palestinian state on the West Bank of the River Jordan and Gaza on the Mediterranean coast have been frustrated by the continuing conflict with Israel “
          I’m a little confused here, is Gaza under the control of Israel or do the people of Gaza run their own affairs.

          I’ll leave you with the last sentence from the bBC from that Horrible histories article.
          “Locals enjoy a day out on the beach in the Gaza Strip, a narrow stretch of land on the Mediterranean Sea”

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          • Adi says:

            Of course the palis want “peace” (in the Islamist variety of it).

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          • deegee says:

            Wait a second – ten or eleven million Palestinians?

            How do they work out that figure. UNRWA lists 5,271,893
            registered persons. 1,617,000 Arabs live in Israel (2012) That’s around 6 million unaccounted for.

            Has the BBC accepted the Zionist claim that Jordan (formerly Transjordan) was a part of the British Mandate (to create a Jewish homeland) for Palestine that the British govt unilaterally split off in 1922? Is it counting any Arab who left the area, whether under Turkish, British, Egyptian, Jordanian, Syrian or Israeli control in the 20th century? 19th century? No matter where they settled?

            historic Palestine? That requires some defining. There has never been an entity called Palestine only a vague geographical area. There certainly never was a polity by that name.

            saw the former British mandate of Palestine partitioned between Israel, Trans-Jordan and Egypt? Is the BBC somehow connecting the UN Partition plan accepted by the Jews and rejected totally by the Arabs (all states) with the invasion and occupation (in Jordan’s case annexation) by war?

            “The Palestinian national movement gradually regrouped in the West Bank and Gaza, run respectively by Jordan and Egypt, “ Actually no. The PLO had its start in Kuwait and later with the Egyptian secret service and KGB as surrogate parents in Cairo.

            frustrated by the continuing conflict with Israel? Isn’t that a convoluted way of saying because there was war there was no peace? Duh!

            I feel a thorough fisking coming on.

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          • Lynette says:

            Have you put these details into a complaint into the BBC? -preferably by post . It’s not a waste of time as they have to pay for people to deal with your letters , especially if you pursue them through the complaints procedures to the BBC Trust…

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            • RCE says:

              I’ll save you the bother:

              ‘Thank you for your letter. The BBC takes every care to ensure that all its reporting is balanced. The Israel/Palestine issue is controversial and particularly prone to varying accounts. Your comments have been noted. Thanks.’

              Note the complete absence of engagement on the subject of the BBC’s misreporting; it’s a controversial subject, you see, which means they can put out any old garbage, never accept any criticism and the facts can go hang.

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              • thoughtful says:

                Well I suppose it’s a little better than the alternative:

                BBC output is allowed to be biased in single programs, what is required is that balance is achieved across the output.

                Thank you

                It never says how or even if that output is monitored.

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              • Lynette says:

                They do engage with specific points if you say that this reply is not satidfactory. Write or email again . don’t let them get away with such answers!!!. Then they are obliged to get the editor or producer of the programme to answer. It all costs time , money and effort for them to answer letters. If you don’ t get satisfaction get your MP involved – he is obligated to see that they fufill their Charter by answering queries of bias and innacuracy.

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  5. Demon says:

    What’s happened to the Merchants of Hate, are the BBC giving its Propaganda staff an extended Easter holiday? I haven’t seen Dezi, Scotty, Coalpits for days now. There’s only Thoughtful keeping their end up at the moment.

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      They’ve been sent to a reeducation and retraining gulag for not doing well enough in here.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      It’s Easter Holidays for students, so colditz is back home with mater and pater for the week. I don’t know about the others. Perhaps they got bored again, or just need a break from having to fight with multiple people on several threads every day.

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  6. Pounce says:

    So ,who here has spent 10 minutes of their life watching this bBC video clip which explains why the lights may go out in the Uk in the not too distant future.
    UK may face power shortages as 10% of energy supply is shut down

    If you haven’t here is a snapshot:
    The reason we are going to face power shortages and price rises is becasue:
    Coal Power plants are not economically viable to run
    Nuclear power plants are all too old
    The Gas we purchase from…Qatar is on a contract which runs out next year and we will have to purchase gas at much more expensive rate from only Qatar
    Leaving out
    UK shale gas
    US shale gas (deal for a 20 year contract signed last month)
    Norwegian Gas
    Algerian Gas
    North Sea Gas
    Irish Gas?

    So where does our future lie, Why with renewable energy generation, it is the future and if we walk down this path we will never have to burn fossil fuels again and guess what, our power bills will actually go down.

    All Hail Green energy which will ensure that we will never have to pay high prices for energy every again.

    The bBC, the propaganda mouth piece for sandal wearing non shaving tofu eating eco nuts.

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    • Phil Ford says:

      The other reason energy prices are so high here in the UK is the stealth tax being forced on UK homes and businesses via our energy bills, to fund the absolute folly of ‘renewables’. Funny, I don’t remember being asked if it was okay that the government stole £70 a year off me (and rising) to fund their (mis)adventures with an idealogical, politically-motivated, entirely inefficient, unreliable and egregiously expensive ‘green’ technology.

      The BBC never, ever mention that this ‘green’ stealth tax is one of the prime reasons energy bills for everyone in the UK will keep on rising from their present already artificially inflated levels, mainly because they don’t want to upset their common purpose friends in the EU – the main architects of this socialist policy of forcing perfectly good, relatively cheap, secure and abundant fossil fuels off the agenda in order to weaken industry and promote their frightening, dystopian dreams of a ‘green future’ for all.

      Now watch as the BBC do all they can to sabotage the UK’s nascent shale gas industry – they will snipe incessantly, whilst doing their level best to talk it down and misrepresent it promise and potential to transform UK energy prices and dependency whenever they can.

      Truly, the enemy within.

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      • thoughtful says:

        This is what I’ve been saying for quite some time now, although I’m not sure where your £70 comes from??
        Plans are now to raise the average bill by a further £300 by 2020 (plus the VAT of course!)

        As for shale gas I think we can be pretty ambivalent, the deal in the NW is currently that 100% of any deposits found will be directly supplied to gas generating plants, this is not the US prices aren’t ever going to come down because the politicos have realised that it’s yet another cash cow to tax, while their blame dodgers carry on beating the utility companies for the prices.

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        • Maturecheese says:

          There will be a carbon tax on the gas anyway just to make sure that it cannot be cheap. Utter Bastards!! I pray for a UKIP breakthrough.

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      • Pat says:

        There is a good article in the Sunday Times (30.3.13) by Danny Fortson about a new pressure group of big business and consumers forming to stop coalition energy policy. It can be found on a new website.
        thepowerlineuk.com

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        • london calling says:

          Good. I didn’t vote for “the Greenest Government Ever”. If I had wanted to do that, I had a Green candidate on the ballot paper. Looks like they lost their deposit, but their policies got elected anyway.
          Utter bastards. (the BBC that is, and Cameron. And Labour.)

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    • Joe Chapman says:

      The refusal of the political classes to even consider bringing back coal mining, epitomizes everything that is wrong with both this country and the world view that the BBC promotes.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        What I enjoy most is the schizophrenic behavior regarding the coal mines. The BBC and the Left hate coal for religious reasons, but at the same time hate Thatcher for closing the mines (among other things, I know). The same people who believe the coal industry is a major factor in destroying the planet would happily have it all in full production right now if it meant a defeat for Thatcher. You sure don’t hear any of them thanking Gaia for Mrs. Thatcher having done a service to the planet for shutting down the coal mines, yet it’s awesome when The Obamessiah or someone else does it.

        Bashing Thatcher over the mines has even found its way into the latest episode of Man Lab, which is not at all a typical Left-wing show. The institutional bias happens naturally.

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        • johnnythefish says:

          Funny how Scargill’s role in dividing the NUM and having no mandate from its members for a strike – because he feared a resounding ‘no’ from a national ballot – is never mentioned by the BBC.

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        • Larry Dart says:

          The ’84 miners’ strike was called after an announcement that 20 pits in England, Scotland and Wales were to be closed.

          Between ’65 and ’78 in County Durham alone, 68 pits were closed by Labour governments.

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          • David Preiser (USA) says:

            Don’t tell me, Larry. Tell all the Leftoids and edgy comedians and BBC staff who keep bitching about how Thatcher closed the mines. And tell James May and his production team while you’re at it.

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            • Larry Dart says:

              I thought I was highlighting the fact that the left concentrate on Thatcher and ignore what Labour governments do.

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    • Leo says:

      Interesting to note that many of these eco nuts have found their way to the top of the pile in several major “charities”. Even the head guy at RSPB thinks climate change is a much greater threat to birds than wind turbines!

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  7. Pounce says:

    The bBC, charging airline passengers by weight and not even half the story.
    Samoa Air boss defends charging passengers by weight
    The head of Samoa Air has defended the airline’s decision to start charging passengers according to their weight. Chris Langton told Australia’s ABC Radio that it was “the fairest way of travelling”. Rather than pay for a seat, passengers pay a fixed price per kilogram, which varies depending on the route length. Samoa Air flies domestically and to American Samoa. It is thought the move could encourage other airlines to introduce similar policies.

    So the champion of human rights (And feelings) knocks out a story about how big business are fleecing people blind and to make their point they publish a picture of an airline seat
    http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/66706000/jpg/_66706342_002837625-1.jpg

    Here is what the bBC isn’t telling you:
    Samoan Air flies just three aircraft, two 10-seaters and one four-seater and serves Samoa, American Samoa, Tonga, Niue, Tokelau, the North Cook Islands and Wallis and Futuna islands in French Polynesia.

    Anybody who has flown in such tiny aircraft will know and understand that these planes are tiny, that the peoples of these Islands are some of the fattest in the world and that there is a bit of distance between these Islands, all flown long distance over water.

    As for that photo of a Jet airliner seat, I wonder if that is why they also included in their article that Samoa air flies to American Samoa. (its 20 miles from Samoa) So as to disguise the fact that actually we are taking about an Local Island hopping bus service and not Jet airliners.

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    • Pounce says:

      Air Samoa’s website showing their air fleet.
      http://www.samoaair.ws/index.php/about-us2/our-fleet

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Nice one, pounce. A lazy BBC News online producer couldn’t even be bothered to dig up an actual photo of the real thing, and ran with what I guess is a stock photo. Couldn’t secure the rights from Samoan Air in time to publish this must-read, important story, or did an editor decide it might interfere with the story they wanted to tell?

      Restoring trust well underway, I see.

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  8. David Preiser (USA) says:

    The BBC is reporting that now even the UN is worried about a Korean war. The Nobel Peace Prize Laureate-in-Chief is unable to stop yet another war, apparently. Has there been a single diplomatic success during His reign? He couldn’t even get the Olympics to come to Chicago.

    Jonathan Marcus pours a little common sense over the flames of panic, by pointing out that the Norks don’t actually have the ability to hit the US, although obviously they can damage their southern neighbor, and US interests therein. The US sabre-rattling of moving warships and flying stealth bombers over Pyongyang is described by Marcus as “prudent defensive precautions”, which is nice. Although he forgot to mention the stealth bombers. Curious, as that apparently freaks out the NK generals a lot more than the rest of it. Yes, the NY Times also calls it “prudent”.

    I eagerly await a steady stream of unhappy souls appearing on the BBC either as commentators or vox pops crying about “the rush to war”. Maybe there’s already a sign-up sheet for human shields the BBC can link to in their next report.

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    • Phil Ford says:

      I was disappointed to note that the BBC was last night suggesting North Korea’s latest bout of self-inflicted idiocy was not due to the fact it is an isolationist, totalitarian communist trouble-maker, but apparently because the country is simply seeking a peace treaty with South Korea.

      Oh, now I get it. There was me wrongly thinking NK was a nation of belligerent sabre-rattling attention seekers, when all the time I just needed the BBC to explain to me how much Kim Jong Un actually desperately wants peace.

      All this, and somehow the BBC somehow manages to keep a straight face. Amazing.

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      • chrisH says:

        And they are of course “vulnerable”-as Brigid Kendal herself said on the 10pm news last night.
        It had to come didn`t it?…a sociopathic weird assortment of Commies would be getting a “statement of special needs” with BBC sponsorship for the Ritalin and Prozac to help out these good people, in need of Lambeth Parenting Support workers.
        I do hope they take that chubbif***k into care re his obesity and self-harming haircut….oh, do help him somebody!
        F****in BBC!

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        • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

          It’s only a matter of time before it dawns on “Dave” Cameron, we really ought to apologise for the state North Korea is on and start the aid money flowing.
          I’m sure someone will tell me if it’s happening already.

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      • In fairness to them, I have seen this analysis before elsewhere. Because much of what they do is for a domestic audience and face saving is a big part of their culture, they often ratchet up the rhetoric that serves as a perverse signal that they are ready to talk turkey. This allows them to pretend to their own people that they brought us running to the negotiating table.

        All that said, such an approach is usually a lot smaller scale. What’s worrying this time is that the Chinese are taking it seriously enough to get their troops into increased readiness positions – and if they’re getting the jitters, maybe we all should.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          North Korea also has to do this on a regular basis to keep the billions in cash and aid pouring in. You can practically set your watch by it. I’m just waiting for the day when China gets fed up and decides on another way to prevent a couple million half-starved, half-mad, refugees from flooding into their country.

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          • Louis Robinson says:

            I wanted to draw your attention to a 2003 programme (nay love letter) by Andy Kershaw to North Korea broadcast on radio 3.

            “Sit back and enjoy the first ever radio programme recorded in this isolated and extraordinary country. Andy has described this as the “last great adventure on planet Earth”.”

            Sadly the link has run its time and cannot be accessed. Anyone else got any ideas of how to relive Kershaw’s propaganda show? It’s a hoot!

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            • David Preiser (USA) says:

              Louis, was it something to do with pristine wilderness unsullied by civilization, etc? The wonderful wildlife diversity in the DMZ due to same? That stuff is always good for a laugh.

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            • Rufus McDufus says:

              Hard to know what they’re more embarrassed about – Andy Kershaw or North Korea-love

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    • RCE says:

      The BBC has to be careful here; on no account is anyone to consider how much harder an equally rogue nation with WMD would be to contain in such as, oh, I don’t know, the Middle East.

      A rogue nation such as Iraq under Saddam Hussein, for example.

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    • deegee says:

      Stealth bombers? If you want to intimidate someone wouldn’t you use the largest, noisiest, ugliest plane you could find? Just saying.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        They’re not doing it to intimidate ordinary people. It’s for the benefit of the generals, to make them aware of how impotent they really are.

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  9. David Brims says:

    Richard Bacon was presenting from the Edinburgh Science Festival the other day. Two words that shouldn’t be in the same sentence, Richard Bacon and science, it’s just not right.

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  10. Doublethinker says:

    In the telegraph this morning David Cameron is quoted as saying that the UK has some remarkable achievements to its name. He quoted three, the creation of the NHS and of the BBC, ranking alongside the defeat of fascism.
    I suppose that creating the NHS in 1948 was an achievement at the time, but sadly it became what it is today rather than what was hoped for.
    I don’t think that the creation of the BBC ,even from the 1920’s perspective , can rank alongside the NHS ,let alone alongside the defeat of fascism.
    I just can’t believe that Cameron thinks the BBC is some marvelous institution that Britain can be proud of ! I can believe that he is scared to death of it, but that doesn’t warrant or excuse naming it as something the UK can be proud of.
    Surely any Tory knows that the BBC is in the grip of the Liberal Left who use it ruthlessly to drive their policies through and to undermine the policies of their opponents.
    Perhaps the senior Tories daren’t say what they really think about the BBC, but they should realise that if they want to implement their policies they will sooner or later have to take on the corporation and defeat it.
    I think that the recent welfare debate has shown that a lot more people side with the Tories than the BBC would have anyone believe. The Tories should take heart from this and stop running scared of the BBC.

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  11. noggin says:

    panto, campbell this morning 5live your call.
    saudi arabia is going to paralyse someone as a punishment
    is that not right? …
    where has the bbc been eh! …
    flogging, apartheid, amputation, beheading, subdugation, murder for having a free will, no human rights, women treated appallingly, biggest slaver trade around, terrorist central along the pak, mind poisoning agenda funded by oil money, literally insane erm “clerics”, bleating the cult of islam, mandated by a erm “university”? .. yep!, theres islam for you 😀

    willfully ignorant. (shakes head)

    always last with anything approaching fact, always first with propaganda, and spin.

    extended cosy chat, george “allahway”, couple of muslim callers, (not this islam/that islam etc), job done

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    • uncle bup says:

      ‘Yerveonygorraluke at the amnesty international report on Saudia Arabia.’

      Did we ever ‘gorraluke’ at the amnesty international report on Venezuelanothoughtnot.

      He’s a pure naughtie.

      No other word for it.

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  12. Maturecheese says:

    I thought Victoria Derbyshire (along with Bacon) was as irritating and Lefty Liberal as you could get and then Stephen Nolan came along. Hells teeth, does the BBC deliberately try to wind up the listener. I feel sorry for Northern Ireland if they have to put up with this guy regularly. Who was the guy that stood in for Derbyshire a few days ago? Bring him back as he was no where near as annoying as Nolan.

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    • Bannerman says:

      Tony Livesey…actually I find him to be one of the good guy’s would do well if the BBC bit the bullet and allowed proper comment on their phone- in’s. As for Nolan he’s the BBC Rottweiler never off the air when “right” bashing is needed and always has his favored guest rusk eating Jones.

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    • Another David says:

      In the style of Sesame Street, somebody should introduce SN to the letter “W”.
      “Hoy noy broyn coy” becomes “How now brown cow”.

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  13. Andrew says:

    Nice piece of BBC-ism this a.m. on the Today Prog’, when they went over to J Dim-bleby for a trail for “Any Questions?” this p.m. Evan Davies said he’d done the new social classes test and been classified as Elite, so they joked about “the elite Evan Davies”. Dim-bleby said that it was “horribly easy” to be classified as part of the Elite, by using this test. Why “horribly”? Did he mean that money (simply having his high salary) got you in, when other factors should be given more weight? Or did he mean it was “horrible” (for him anyway) to be perceived (correctly) as part of the Elite? The anti-Tory class war (e.g. focus on the Eton background of Cameron, Osborne and Boris Johnson) serves to hide the real Elite in Britain, which is Dim-bleby and his crew at the BBC, who will be around long after the present government has gone.

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    • uncle bup says:

      ‘they went over to J Dim-bleby for a trail for “Any Questions?”’
      —————————————————————-

      Here’s a thought for Lord Keepthingstickingovertilmypayoff now that he’s got his feet under the desk.

      Howabout taking all the slots you use now to plug your cruddy programmes and replace them with commercials for vodaphone, coke, nike et al and with the money you pull in REDUCE THE LICENCE FEE.

      That would be a start.

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    • Chop says:

      Funny….I didn’t find it “Horribly easy” to be classified as “Elite”

      I did however find it horribly easy to be a 3rd rung prole, seeing that I don’t work for the beeb/social sector, nor am I on the scrounge for every benefit known to man….erm, actually, that should read woman in hindsight….unless you are a “Man” who partakes in underage grooming…if yer get my drift.

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  14. starfish says:

    I note on last night’s BBC news that the BBC went across to the other side of the world to find some muslims oppressed by eeeeevil buddhists. In doing so they crossed entire nations and continents where muslims are actively suppressing free speech and other religions

    Still that nice boy Gavin in Prisoner’s Wives has converted to Islam after beating up the Anglican vicar

    Do I detect a trend?

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    • chrisH says:

      Noted the news bloke out there in Burma telling us that the Buddhists were responding angrily to “wild rumours”.
      If he says that, might we be told what these are?
      Course not-they`re Muslims so can do as they wish, and then be the victim as usual….as long as no daylight is shone in upon the magic.
      Listen BBC….these are Buddhists-they don`t get riled all that easily, so obviously SOMETHING is causing them to attack Muslims.
      The BBC won`t be told that wherever Islam meets another “faith”, there is ALWAYS a perpetual war going on.
      Aun Sang Syu Ki or whatever surely hasn`t lost her chrysanthemum halo THAT easily has she?
      If the Beeboid won`t tell us what rumours he regards as “wild”(Sharia?…death of monks?…restoring a Caliphate, blowing up big Buddhist statues and shrines?)., then I`m inclined to believe the Burmese Buddhist, not the BBC Muslin monkey!

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  15. Alex says:

    Why on earth is this complete non-story on the BBC’s site? Pathetic! Just goes to show how low the BBC will stoop…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22039361

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Most Beeboids still hate Blair for Iraq and Afghanistan, so any opportunity to mention some negative things about him can’t be missed.

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  16. George R says:

    “Osborne enters Philpott storm: As Shameless Mick is jailed for life, Labour attacks Chancellor for saying Britain needs a debate on welfare.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304037/Mick-Philpott-benefits-culture-George-Osborne-attacked-Labour-saying-UK-needs-debate-welfare.html#ixzz2Pa7DGqAD
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  17. George R says:

    “Once again, the Left censors vital debate.”

    By DAILY MAIL COMMENT.

    And this includes BBC-NUJ:

    [Excerpt]:-

    “Meanwhile, aided and abetted by the BBC, the Left-wing commentariat hysterically demonised anybody who dared suggest the over-generous welfare system had allowed Philpott to live a vile, base life, while his taxpayer funded existence – the equivalent of a salary of almost £100,000 – was cynically ignored.
    “Thus, the Left tried to censor the debate on welfare that the Chancellor said Britain needs to have. In the same way, the Left has tried to silence criticism of Labour’s open door immigration policies – this despite the social damage, as Frank Field so bravely points out, inflicted on Britain’s poor, white working class.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2304266/Mick-Philpott-George-Osborne-welfare-reform-Once-Left-censors-vital-debate.html#ixzz2Pa871rIn

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  18. Joshaw says:

    From some BBC correspondent yesterday:

    “There was three adults living in the property.”

    Try getting kids to understand basic grammatical concepts in foreign languages when they hear this sort of thing from our national broadcaster.

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  19. Bob Nelson says:

    There was a time when I really enjoyed BBC documentaries. They brought the wonders of the universe, our planet and history into my living room and they did it well.

    Nowadays, sadly, things are very different. I have to suffer the gurning Brian Cox for, it seems, all science and astronomy and history is brought to me by a series of presenters who are highly qualified, no doubt, but who have all been on the same presentational skills course: intense with lots of face-acting and arm gestures to emphasise a point. Alice Roberts is an exception. She is good and a cutie.

    My main gripe is that natural history programmes invariably have an AGW message. I don’t take in much of the progammes because I am on edge waiting for the global warming mantra.

    I thought that BBC4’s Things You Didn’t Know About Earthquakes would be a welcome exception because there is no link possible between AGW and earthquakes is there? WRONG!! Forty minutes in it began: ‘Some scientists think that global warming……..melting ice…….landmasses rebounding……….major earthquakes resulting…….disastrous consequences…..’ etc.

    Will they never give up?

       43 likes

    • Phil Ford says:

      No, the BBC will never give up flag-waving for the political project that is CAGW. It has bet the farm, along with its chums in the EU and UN, that it can ‘nudge’ the proletariat into believing that 2+2=5.

      Even as it becomes uncomfortably apparent to some of the most obtuse pro-CAGW advocates that with no discernible global temperature rise for fifteen years or more their doom-laden predictions are all turning to dust, the BBC chooses to adhere to its chosen political position on so-called ‘man-made climate change’, whilst actively closing out any who might dissent from the ‘consensus’.

      This means it must now, by default, vandalise its own natural history and science programming (and much more besides) with an obligatory pimp for the CAGW cause, no matter the clear scientific facts – The Cause comes first, comrades.

      ‘Impartiality?’ To quote 70’s rock band The Eagle:, ‘…that’s just some people talking.’

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  20. George R says:

    Humphrys.

    ” He’s started so he’ll finish!

    New BBC deals for Humphrys”

    By RICHARD KAY.

    [Excerpt]:-

    “Humphrys is not thought to have taken a pay rise. In fact, last time he renewed his contracts, in February 2011, he took a cut of almost 20 per cent in common with other high-profile presenters.
    “He is understood to earn around £375,000 to present 150 editions of Today — £2,500 a programme — plus around £200,000 more for each Mastermind series.
    “A father of three — he has two children by his first wife, Edna, and a 12-year-old son by BBC presenter Valerie Sanderson — Humphrys has been happily living with Sunday newspaper columnist Catherine Bennett for the past three years.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304299/RICHARD-KAY-Hes-started-hell-finish-New-BBC-deals-Humphrys.html#ixzz2PaEQEa1V

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    • Phil Ford says:

      £575,000pa? Ain’t it grand to be a smug, rich, self-satisfied common purpose troll working for the Politburo?

      I assume we’re supposed to accept that Humphrys is worth every penny of our license fee..?

      Absolutely sickening.

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  21. Lynette says:

    Did anyone hear the Today progrmme on radio 4 this am about the measles epidemic in Swansea because of the low take up of children who were vaccinated? No explanation as to why this should be only in Swansea. Could it be that that Swansea has a high immigrant population whose children were not in the UK to have had the vaccination ?

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  22. George R says:

    “BBC refuses to disclose how many watch catch-up to avoid licence fee.
    “The BBC has refused to disclose how many people say they do not need a television licence for fear that it could result in a significant loss of income, it emerged today.”

    By Victoria Ward.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9973679/BBC-refuses-to-disclose-how-many-watch-catch-up-to-avoid-licence-fee.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9973679/BBC-refuses-to-disclose-how-many-watch-catch-up-to-avoid-licence-fee.html

       19 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      Interesting. Does it mean that if I only watch stuff after it is broadcast by recording it on my Sky Box I legally don’t have to pay the LF? If not can somebody advise me what i have to do to legally avoid paying the LF please.

         8 likes

      • Teddy Bear says:

        You’ll get the best advice regarding this on this website TV Licence Resistance Forums

           3 likes

        • Phil Ford says:

          Thanks for the great link – I’d never heard of the TV License Resistance forums. Good to see, within moments of my first visit there, that they also have a healthy resistance to the BBC’s incessant CAGW propaganda there, too (in their ‘General Discussions’ thread)!

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      • Guest Who says:

        I’d be chuffed if that was the case, as that is pretty much how we ‘consume’ now.
        I was in process is sussing out online alternatives as I’d presumed I’d need to cancel the SKY DD at the same time as the TVL one.
        I was also going to disconnect the dish in case a Capita drone and plod decided to make things awkward.
        I was actually concerned that the mere presence of kit would be enough for them to make presumptions of guilt, as the BBC has already shown it operates on such a basis. Uniquely.

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        • Teddy Bear says:

          If you have equipment that receives live broadcast then the law requires one to pay the licence fee. Evidence of a Sky Receiver would enable an agent to obtain a search warrant and investigate your home. Recording live broadcast for later viewing is seen as the same thing. 🙁

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    • Teddy Bear says:

      The BBC continually like to tell the public how open and transparent it is, in the hope it will be believed, rather than having any real basis for the statement. The incoming Director General is using the same tactic by declaring how trust is being restored following the Savile and McAlpine scandals, despite nothing to show just how that’s been achieved. Quite to the contrary, everything we’ve seen the BBC having done is to simply shuffle people most responsible around with no loss of position in the hierarchy or loss of earnings.

      This story also reveals just how shallow is the BBC claim to being open and transparent as it refuses to disclose just how many people have opted out of paying their licence fee on the basis that they no longer watch live broadcasts. Their grounds for doings so are “disclosure would, or would be likely to, prejudice the prevention or detection of crime [and] the collection of the licence fee”.

      So any ‘trust’ they claim is clearly a one sided affair. Considering how much they ‘champion’ the poorer elements of society, and the welfare claimants, at least for the purposes of their anti-Tory propaganda, precisely those who would mostly want to avoid paying the licence fee, it shows they don’t trust them – not one little bit. 🙄

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  23. George R says:

    Where’s INBBC on Islamic-compliant royal, Charles Windsor?

    ‘Jihadwatch’:-

    “Islamic Republic of Great Britain under President Charles Windsor?”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/04/islamic-republic-of-great-britain-under-president-charles-windsor.html

    In general, BBC-NUJ is, of course, republican, not royalist; but BBC-NU appears to avoid discussion of this Islamic-compliant royal, Charles Windsor.

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  24. worrywot says:

    Still happily letting Israel-haters get away with deliberate lies like saying Gaza is “occupied” land. (Yesterday during an interview about 4.15pm, radio 4.) Now with the cuts in the UNWRA budget, the beeboids will figure out a way to blame Israel, and fail to mention that this UN body, founded expressly to aid Palestinians, has been throwing money at purveyors of violence for 65 years with no effect. Hey, whose cash is it? Remind you of the way we prop up third world dictatorships with British tax pounds?

       15 likes

    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      As long as there’s a single Jew within 100 miles of Gaza, it will be defined as “occupied”.

         18 likes

  25. Joseph says:

    I’m guessing this debate from the Netherlands will never get reported by the various organs of the BBC..

    Thursday night’s parliamentary debate on the ‘Moroccan problem’ called by the anti-immigration PVV turned into a repetition of known standpoints.

    The PVV gathered enough support for the debate in the wake of the death of football linesman Richard Nieuwenhuizen last year. He was attacked by youth players from a team of largely immigrant youngsters from Amsterdam and died in hospital a day later.

    Figures from the government’s socio-cultural think tank SCP last year said 65% of Dutch-Moroccan youths under the age of 23 have been questioned by police. However, it is unknown how many of them were actually convicted of a crime.

    Immigration

    The reason is ‘unhindered mass immigration and failed integration’, PVV parliamentarian Joram van Klaveren is quoted as saying by news agency ANP. It is time for ‘hard-as-steel repression, minimum sentences, curfews, collective responsibility, mobile police units and loss of nationality’, Van Klaveren said.

    Social affairs minister Lodewijk Asscher said the government was not walking away from the problem, but that it concerned individuals, rather than an entire population group. What is needed is tackling crime, support for parents in raising their children and ensuring problem youth get good education and a job, he said.

    The PVV currently receives approx 11% of the national vote and 18% of the votes for European elections. This might not sound like much, however in the Netherlands this gave them 15 seats in the House of Representatives and 5 of the 26 European seats. When you add their figure to those of the ruling party (which shares many of the same values) it seems that many Dutch citizens are starting to take a hard-line approach to immigration.

    It should also be added that these hardening of the stance taken by many Dutch citizens has been steadily increasing since 1992 after the Maastricht treaty was signed and the eventual implementation of the Euro and other EU projects.

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    • Andrew says:

      And what about the murders of Pim Forteyn and Theo Van Gogh? A nasty wake-up call.

         12 likes

      • stewart says:

        Have recommended ‘While Europe Slept’ by Bruce Bawer before but will again.Even though a few years old now it is still a useful outsiders view of changes in Dutch and Scandinavian society.Made more powerful by fact Bawer is far from one of the ‘usual suspects’on this matter.

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  26. George R says:

    Mass Immigration into UK continues:
    BBC-NUJ favours ‘leftist’ report over that of ‘Migration Watch UK’.

    1.) Sky News:

    “Immigrant Numbers ‘Impossible To Predict.’
    A study says there can be no accurate forecast of how many Romanians and Bulgarians will settle in the UK when restrictions lapse.”

    http://news.sky.com/story/1074243/immigrant-numbers-impossible-to-predict

    2.) BBC-NUJ:-

    “Romanian and Bulgarian immigrant impact ‘modest'”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22031724

    See also-

    http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/

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  27. thoughtful says:

    Did anyone else hear ‘front row’ last night? I was unfortunate enough to catch the part about playwright Richard Beans ‘Smack Family Robinson’
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01rlrjn/Front_Row_Richard_Bean_Olga_Kurylenko_Arne_Dahl/

    The play is about a family of drug dealers, something the bBC seems pretty comfortable about, but the interview with the author covered his flatmates death from a heroin overdoes for which he blames the state for not allowing his friend to buy (or no doubt be given free) ‘safe’ doses of the drug instead of getting it from a dealer where he didn’t know the strength.

    Yesterday in the Philpott case the judge made a statement about him ‘having lost his moral compass’ I think it might be a fair statement to apply to the bBC. There’s no way anyone would have even considered this 20 years ago, the sad thing is that this is now near normal.

       20 likes

  28. Leha says:

    watch this and tell me if Owen Jones really gives a rats-arse about 6 dead children

    little shit

       15 likes

    • Leha says:

      not bBC i know but he’s on their speed-dial list

         10 likes

    • DJ says:

      Yes, indeed: ‘voice of a generation’ he is, but don’t hold your breath waiting for the BBC to tell you how many copies of ‘Chavs’ were actually sold.

         15 likes

  29. George R says:

    BBC-NUJ-Labour’s ‘top’, current political story online:
    Blair and 2010! –

    “Tony Blair: I’d have done better than Brown in 2010 election”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22039361

       7 likes

    • thoughtful says:

      Why is he orange? bloody alien from outer space!

      A dog turd with a red ribbon could have done better than Gordon Clown so he’s not really saying anything we don’t already know. Yet another ego trip from the man who wrecked the country, and whose own party boos even the mention of his name.

         15 likes

  30. Lynette says:

    Talking of British official figures of immigration. See how during their Mandate period in Palestine they were able to include the percentage of the Arab population that was actually newly arrived immigrants and in- migrants into the category of “settled indigenous Arab population” or exsisting population growing only by natural increase. ( See Joan Peters) This led to the myth that Jews “dispossessed” Arabs in Israel in 1948.

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  31. George R says:

    Continuing Mass Immigration into UK:

    -the gist of the issue on numbers is that the political class (Labour, Lib Dems, Labour, E.U, supported by e,g, BBC-NUJ) has abrogated the decision to the immigrants themselves.

       9 likes

    • thoughtful says:

      You missed out the Tories! Leftie Dave is just as keen on stuffing the country full of migrants as Tony BLiar (his hero) ever was.

         13 likes

  32. George R says:

    “The uncomfortable truth about Philpott and welfare.
    The link between welfarism and the Philpott case is clear. If only the left would admit it, then we could think about how to address some of the problems the most vulnerable in our society face.”

    By Alexander Wickham.

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3170/the_uncomfortable_truth_about_philpott_and_welfare

       12 likes

    • AsISeeIt says:

      The problem being that the Labour Party and their friends at the BBC know very well that Philpott’s gross antics have for a moment in time lifted the heavy stone of welfare culture for the public to see some of the nasty creatures that crawl beneath.

      Hence Ed Balls Owen Jones et al come out fighting hard. This is a rearguard action. They know it is an unjust cause but they can’t let the defeat turn into a rout. The BBC don’t want to see Labour 2015 and increased licence fees 2016 go down the swanee.

         22 likes

      • Bob Nelson says:

        I had to laugh at Ed Balls being politically opportunistic accusing George Osborne of political opportunism. He obviously doesn’t get irony.

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      • Teddy Bear says:

        The hypocrisy of the left, led by the BBC, knows no bounds.

        The BBC feels justified using 7/7 in a documentary airing the conspiracy view that the government plotted the attack. They are clearly not concerned about the feelings of the families that suffered the loss of loved ones or who were severely injured and traumatised by this event, to pursue their idea of ‘entertainment’.

        Yet following the trial of Philpott, which highlighted the degenerate lifestyle of this man and the women who tied themselves to him, it is a fair observation to see just how the welfare system made this kind of vile scum possible. But at this, the left have no problem trying to obfuscate their responsibility for having created this system by accusing the Tories of using the death of children to raise the subject.

        Once again, the Left censors vital debate

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  33. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC Left-wing bias

    It think it would be fair to say that most people of a conservative outlook would be happy to see the BBC simply take a neutral view on political and social issues. To report the news yes, but please spare us the comment.

    Whereas those people on the politcal Left expect their institutions, including our national broadcaster, to fight the good fight – to campaign and to strive to set the world to rights. If it doesn’t do that, then they cry BBC bias.

    The Left has little to complain about with their BBC.

    For example: a caller to Steven Nolan on BBC 5 Live this morning launches a general attack on George Osborne, the Tories and welform reform on the back of a BBC radio debate covering The Philpott case, related recent comments by the Chancellor and a story about his driver’s parking habits.

    In an admirable piece of disengenuous surprise – oh look what we ‘accidentally’ stirred up – devil’s advocate banter, Nolan asks the caller : how do you know that the parking story proves Osborne does not care for disabled people?

    To which he receives the reply ‘It just does! You explain it Steven – you are more eloquent than me!’

    Ladies and Gentlemen. We have here prima facie evidence that people on the Left – as a natural reflex – look to their BBC to express their Left-wing views.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      That sounds about right to me. It must be why, among many examples, Harriet Harman declared last year during the height of Savile/McAlpine that she and all politicians must protect the BBC from the “enemies waiting to pounce” (none of them will be from the Left), because the “independent” BBC is “what the country needs”. As long as the BBC is viewed as a vital national institution and protected from real reform by your politicians, there is no hope of real change.

      While there is regular criticism of Left-wing BBC bias in the “Tory press”, there’s precious little of the opposite side. You don’t see too many columns in the Guardian or Independent moaning about how the BBC treats Tories with kid gloves or reflexively supports Coalition policies. The only regular criticism from the Left I’ve noticed is from the more extreme fringe groups who think the BBC is too pro-Israel and supports the Establishment and the Coalition.

         19 likes

    • Chris says:

      Is it really prima facie evidence of that?

      It could just be that this caller wasn’t particularly bright, couldn’t answer Nolan’s question and desperately hoped he would dig him out of a hole. Hoped, not expected. One person hoping for support for a left-wing view does not mean that the whole Left expects the BBC to ‘fight the good fight’.

      Unless of course Nolan did explain, in which case I take back what I said.

         1 likes

      • AsISeeIt says:

        The caller I heard may not have been the sharpest knife in the draw. The statement ‘it just is’ in answer to Nolan’s George Osborne question displayed blind antipathy to the Tories and a lack of coherent thought process. What I found disturbing was the reliance on (and expectation that Nolan would) make the Left-wing point on behalf of the caller. I don’t think was unusal or an aberration. The Left do love their BBC and they expect it speak for the Left.

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  34. George R says:

    Non-Beeboid Britain:-

    “Alienated white working classes should attend citizenship ceremonies to help them feel part of British society again, says Cameron’s poverty tsar.
    “Labour MP Frank Field said white working classes are unsure of identities.
    “He told conference that English society has ‘lost confidence in what it is.’
    “Concerns over immigration’s impact on white working class communities.”
    By DANIEL MARTIN.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304010/White-working-classes-attend-citizenship-ceremonies-help-feel-society-again.html#ixzz2PauO59Ht
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  35. #88 says:

    While the BBC are having an open season on George Osborne; Osborne defends benefit changes, Philpott (Paxman: ‘Osborne wades in’), Parking in a disabled bay (Paxman: ‘Osborne having apparently parked his Range Rover…’), Osborne – has he gone Cockney?

    – nothing at all about Umana talking about his fellow citizens, saying that London is ‘full of trash’.

    Umana’s defenders say that this was half a decade ago. Imagine if a football manager said something that the BBC didn’t like in, say, 2005. They’d be all over it like a rash….or if a Tory minister didn’t use the word ‘toff’……!!!

    I’m glad the new DG is making a difference!

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    • Andrew says:

      In “The Go-Between”, Viscount Trimmingham told young Leo that “Nothing is ever a lady’s fault”. The BBC takes a similar line with their preferred groups. Even Philpott is, ultimately, a victim. Imagine if Andrew Mitchell had used the word “trash” about members of the public or police! But the person who did is, of course, one of the preferred groups, so we can expect little fuss. Yob behaviour is of interest if it can be associated with white “racist” England-supporting flag wavers or some other “out” group like the Bullingdon or Protestants in N.I.
      George Osborne should be allowed to get on with his job, especially keeping our borrowing costs as low as possible.

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    • Guest Who says:

      The offence industry still seems to be alive, well, hair-triggered as ever… and supported totally by the BBC.
      ‘Philpott (Paxman: ‘Osborne wades in’)’
      He is the second most powerful person in government. Usually the media can’t get enough of ‘comment’ on anything from a football match to a D-lister’s ratings malfunction. Yet on this these cretins now demand he should keep schtum? Is there a petition out yet? Has Mr. Miliband called for an enquiry? Has Mr. Balls told Nick Robinson to say ‘out of touch’ yet? Is Mr. Maguire dusting off his ‘Tory Toffs’ cracked record again?
      ‘Parking in a disabled bay (Paxman: ‘Osborne having apparently parked his Range Rover…’)’
      Sky’s peroxide sink and brain dead luvvie news reviewers were all over this this morning too.
      Thing is, was he driving? Did he instruct this action? Did he even know? This smacks of another Camdamn over his daughter getting left behind at the pub, where the fault of public sector employees in service of senior elected officials may have let them down, but for some reason the finger points firmly at the poor bozo possibly with some greater issues top of mind.
      The breakfast news majority demographic is a truly frightening one (most ads on the commercial versions are for payday loans, accident compo or dating, so go figger who they think is mostly watching) and Labour and its NGO attack squads have the whole sorry bunch sussed and wrapped round their little fingers at the click of a twitter post to unleash the hounds.
      And the most rabid is the BBC, which will take it from dawn to dusk, and as many days or weeks as they can milk it.

         13 likes

      • Andrew says:

        A couple of questions:

        (1) Why does “Any Answers?” (R4, Sat, 14:00-14:30) feel more right-wing than “Any Questions?” (R4, Sat, 13:15-14:00 repeated from Fri 20:00)? Is it because the callers are harder to control than an audience?
        (2) Why does “The Moral Maze” feel more right-wing than the average of the R4 output (that’s not saying much, admittedly)? Is it because there really is more balance on it and a good chairman who is impartial?

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        • Dante's Inferno says:

          Yes, I know what you mean about both programmes. Just a theory about ‘Any Answers?’ possibly the radio phone in format attracts more ‘ordinary’ people i.e those not members of a political party or pressure group whereas QT/AQ attracts the more politically motivated (who tend to have strong opinions) and are more likely to make the effort to actually travel to the venue where QT/AQ are being recorded. Attending a TV or radio recording means giving up your entire evening so I’d suspect the number of people who want to ‘do something’ for their respective cause to be higher at such an event. Also, I’d imagine local political groups encourage their members to go along to QT recordings. There certainly seem to be lots of people who appear to have come as part of a group.

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        • Phil Ford says:

          “…(2) Why does “The Moral Maze” feel more right-wing than the average of the R4 output (that’s not saying much, admittedly)? Is it because there really is more balance on it and a good chairman who is impartial?”

          In a word: yes. Michael Buerk has been quite outspoken on his anti-CAGW views. You can hear him here, from 2011:
          http://www.thefifthcolumn.co.uk/the-agitator/michael-buerk-on-the-climate-summit/

          And does the Moral Maze still feature Dr David Starkey? I hope so. I could listen to him all day, frankly.

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  36. Joshaw says:

    DT today:

    “Ukip has gained more than 30 council seats in just three months ………… The party has made more net gains than Labour in council by-elections, according to the Political Betting website ………… It has also attracted more than 20 council defectors from the Conservatives over the last three months alone – a rate of more than one a week.”

    Unless I’ve missed something, the silence has been deafening.

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  37. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Uh-oh, Stage Performer Maitlis just uttered the dreaded phrase “regime change” on the News Channel just now in regard to the US flexing military muscle in North Korea’s face. How’s that Nobel Peace Prize workin’ for ya now, BBC?

    Bonus: the producers felt St. Fidel’s warning about toning down the rhetoric is important enough to run in the ticker.

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  38. George R says:

    “Why the BBC’s vanity experiment in defining ‘social class’ is deeply flawed”
    By Ardi Kolah.

    Read more: http://guruinabottle.brandrepublic.com/2013/04/05/why-the-bbcs-vanity-experiment-in-defining-social-class-is-deeply-flawed/#ixzz2PbQcvvEO
    Follow us: @thewalluk on Twitter

       4 likes

    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Too bad the author missed the sinister origin of the term “Precariat”.

         2 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      ‘What seems to have been overlooked by the BBC is that audiences segment themselves; they don’t slot themselves into predetermined categories and the propositions that appeal to them are those that satisfy their attitudes, values, beliefs, perceptions and behaviours.
      Or, possibly, it was not overlooked at all.
      The BBC broadcasts… issues… what the BBC believes people should hear and see (often inaccurately or with lack of impartiality) to ‘educate and inform’ in a manner that shapes public perceptions, and hence policy.
      The last thing they would do, or want to, is ever respond to how audiences preferences are actually shaped.
      That would require offering a choice.
      And like accountability, the BBC doesn’t ‘do’ that, as it would see it consumed by its myriad unique exceptions in short order.

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  39. John Paul Jones says:

    Whilst doing some research on Thomas Jefferson I came across this quote from the great man that, eloquently, nails the fundamental injustice of the funding arrangements for the BBC.
    “To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical.”
    Really there is no more to be said. Let those who like what the BBC propagates fund it. Free the rest of us.
    Jefferson and the founding fathers remain so very relevant to our current situation.

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    • Guest Who says:

      The BBC, a sinful and tyrannical national treasure.
      By definition.

         11 likes

    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      And Jefferson happily used the press to his advantage to exchange slanders with John Adams when they were running against each other for President. Jefferson was also keenly aware of how untrustworthy the press could be, but was equally adamant about freedom requiring a truly free press.

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  40. Aerfen says:

    The BBC really has been milking the story of the trial and sentencing of the Derby house fire couple. It was a tragedy, they were stupid selfish and reckless parents, but this is really NOT the most interesting crime story ever. It was manslaughter.
    Mick Philpott and his wife have got what they deserve. He was not a psychotic serial killer that the police spent weeks hunting down. It is a not a story with the kind of national interest that child murder provokes. Its a sad depressing story of a family with a chaotic life of the kind that social workers come across daily, but this family engage din events that lead to tragedy.

    Had the family been anything but ethnic British, this story would barely have made the national news, but the BBC love to remind us of the nasty types who belong to our own gene pool!

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  41. Aerfen says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21998775
    http://news.sky.com/story/1073765/stockton-house-fire-elderly-couple-killed
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-21975285

    In fact house fire deaths it seems are not uncommon (although the death of so many children obviously is).

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  42. Pounce says:

    Lots of protests across Europe yesterday by topless women outside Mosques over the treatment of that Tunisan lady who did likewise against radical Islam. Anybody hear anything from the bBC?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/international-topless-jihad-day_n_3014943.html?ir=World

    But this photo outside the main mosque encapsulates the whole misogynistic written into the codex of Islam.
    http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-480289-galleryV9-lgts.jpg

    The bBC, the apologist for radical Islam.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I presume that Germany, whilst post-Goebells now very pro-rights of peaceful protest, also has some kind of assault and battery equivalent?
      if so, I’d be interested in what happened next to old Evian boy there.

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  43. thoughtful says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22020822

    Now I happen to think this story has some significance. The BBC think it has but for a different reason, because they’re completely blinkered! Top Gear & every lefties favourite hate target is one of the most popular BBC programmes around the world, the reason they give for its success? Jeremy Clarksons anti political correctness !

    “His humour is so inappropriate and not at all what you hear on state TV – that must account for some of its appeal,”

    So BBC the “most widely watched factual TV programme in the world, according to Guinness World Records” is fronted by a man whose views you find unacceptable and presenting style inappropriate!

    Which part of THE MOST POPULAR IN THE WORLD and a man whose opinions you don’t like are so difficult? Start allowing the people with opinions you don’t like to make the programs and you might just find that people all over the world like them!

    PC, hated the world over !

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      If only, thoughtful. In reality, if they found another buffoon who could bring them in over 10 million in cash every year, they’d let him make his own “factual” or whatever show as another licensed jester. Top Gear is harmless to their agenda, way outside the sainted News and Current Affairs. It seems like all guests on BBC comedy panel shows are required to make a derogatory joke about Clarkson at least once a year, just in case the audience starts to pay too much attention to his unapproved thoughts.

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      • thoughtful says:

        How far sighted you are, as the Now show decide to ridicule – top gear!

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        • chrisH says:

          Oh and Cameron saving a sheep
          Oh and Di Canio needing a right winger(and there was me thinking that Socialism as designed by Adolf and Benito was left wing…syill me!)
          Oh and …oh guess the rest.
          No Labour though…beyond a joke in any sense you like!

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          • Andrew says:

            I remember a supporter of Militant Tendency complaining in the 1980s that it was being persecuted within the Labour Party by … wait for it … “Michael Foot and the right wing” [sic!]

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  44. pah says:

    Saw this on Guido (post 133) and thought it was worth posting here:


    How many SWP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

    One to do the screwing and 12 committee members to accept his word that nothing of the sort happened.

    Apologies if this has been posted before.

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    • uncle bup says:

      How many social workers does it take to change a lightbulb?

      Two. One to not change it and the other to write a paper called ‘Coping With Darkness’.

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      • pah says:

        lol.

        You forgot the 10 that form the £2M pa commission which blames ‘Thatcher’ for the fact that there was a light switch in the first place.

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  45. #88 says:

    You remember how Labour Chairs of the various Parliamentary Committees, use their positions to grandstand and make party political capital with the help and connivance of the BBC? Not only are they always on our screen, they are clearly and diligently introduced and captioned as Labour members (for e.g. Labour’s Margaret Hodge (the dodge), Keith Vaz, et al)

    So today we have a change of approach. The Parliamentary Banking Standards Commission, led by Tory MP Andrew Tyree issues an excoriating attack on former HBOS executives, calling for the barring of those executives from future financial services roles. Tyrie, Chairman of the Treasury Select Committee, is interviewed, introduced by his name and captioned as ‘Chairman, Banking Standards Commission’ – no reference to his party or even the fact that he is an MP.
    Supporting a call for action against the former executives, the BBC then interview Tyrie’s Treasury Select Committee colleague, the ever available John Mann (megaphone Mann), onto the screen…but unlike Tyrie, in his case, make sure that he is captioned; ‘John Mann, Labour, Treasury Select Committee’.
    I’m glad that the new DG is continuing to make a difference, ensuring impartiality and that all are treated equally

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    • chrisH says:

      And-let me guess-absolutely NO mention of who gave them their knighthoods…or when…or for what political purposes as required by Broon and wee Alistair, Kirsty and Jim, Mick or Dougie etc.
      HBOS…Bank of Scotland wasn`t it?…forced onto Lloyds before the elections wasn`t it?
      Oh dear-anybody seen Gordon or Alistair to tell us how Fred, Stevo or Crosby got those gongs then?
      Were Labour anywhere in the room between 2007-2009, and indeed werer they to be seen when boom and bust had been consigned to history between 1997-2007?
      Times rewritten line by line…and the BBC taking notes as ever, to rewrite still further!

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    • uncle bup says:

      John Mann, Labour, Treasury Select Committee’
      ________________________________________

      Who employs his wife for ‘light secretarial duties’ on our dollar, and lists her using her ‘professional’ (ie maiden) name. Not so we don’t realise she is ‘family, no sir.

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  46. thoughtful says:

    OK this is a little off from direct BBC bias, but close enough to show that the propaganda isn’t working and taken from the very informative UK Polling report site:

    In past years YouGov has asked about public opinion towards climate change using this question:

    On the subject of climate change do you think:
    The world is becoming warmer as a result of human activity
    The world is becoming warmer but NOT because of human activity
    The world is NOT becoming warmer
    Not sure
    •In 2008, 55% thought human activity was making the world warmer, 25% thought the world was getting warmer, but not because of humanity, 7% thought the world was NOT getting warmer. 13% weren’t sure.
    •In 2010, 39% thought human activity was making the world warmer, 27% thought the world was getting warmer, but not because of humanity, 18% thought the world was NOT getting warmer. 16% weren’t sure.
    •In 2012 43% thought human activity was making the world warmer, 22% thought the world was getting warmer, but not because of humanity, 15% thought the world was NOT getting warmer. 20% weren’t sure.
    •Now 39% think human activity was making the world warmer, 16% think the world is getting warmer, but not because of humanity, 28% thought the world was NOT getting warmer. 17% weren’t sure.

    So that will be 39% in favour of the bBC religiously held belief and all the rest thinking that it has nothing to do with human behaviour!

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    • stewart says:

      39% is all the BBC require for a consensus on any subject as the other 61% are heretics and who’s views don’t count.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        It doesn’t matter how many people in the UK believe it or don’t believe it. The BBC knows that “97%” of scientists say it’s fact, so that’s it. They’re so convinced that they rigged up a whole conference on it and lied about the attendees.

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    • pah says:

      Maybe we’ve got this all wrong.

      Maybe the BBC is secretly anti-Warmist and its parlous attempts at foisting the Warmist view on us is a clever tactic. The more venal and stupid they look the less we like their arguments?

      Or maybe not.

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  47. Pounce says:

    The bBC the mouth piece for promoting leftwing socialist polices across the UK.
    Pay towards Chequers running costs, David Cameron urged
    Three Labour MPs have urged David Cameron to show “compassion” to those hit by housing benefit cuts by helping with the running costs of Chequers.David Winnick, Michael Meacher and Kelvin Hopkins visited the PM’s official country residence to call for him to repay taxpayers for funding it.

    What a fantastic idea from the left and nice to see the bbC supporting that vision. But hey why stop there, lets do away with all housing funding for MPs, keep their wages as they are, stop any payments for housing and while we are at it lets do the same for people at the bBC. (Well they are publicly funded) I wonder how long that train of though will last with Labour MPS and the wankers at the bBC?

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    • thoughtful says:

      And this would be the Michael Meacher who went to public school and has an estate of how many homes?
      Now let me see well according to the Grauniad at the last count he had 12 of them most of very high value and only 5 were occupied by tenents !

      This is the man who likes to call himself the son of an agricultural worker, but was born to an Accountant / Stockbroker father who later decided to retire to the family farm.

      It’s not the first time that Meacher has been accused of hypocrisy over his criticisms of other people with property though, and he was the subject of jokes about it on the ‘Mark Thomas comedy project’ aired on channel four.

      I think the pot is calling the kettle black here.

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      • pah says:

        Is that Michael ‘Rachman’ Meacher whose tenants were less than happy with the way he acted towards them?

        Or someone else?

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    • All Seeing Eye says:

      All of that showing a complete lack of knowledge on their part of how Chequers came to be the working home of the Prime Minister of the day.

      Ignorance goes hand in hand with the BBC/Labour Party.

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  48. Bodo says:

    In all the coverage of HBOS and their staggeringly incompetent business model that brought British banking and Britain itself to it’s knees, there is precious little coverage by the BBC about how the regulatory system designed by Gordon Brown and Ed balls let them get away with it.

    Today’s report utterly destroys Labour’s argument that the banking crisis “started in America”. People were warning about HBOS in 2004, saying it was an accident waiting to happen. Just why did Brown and Balls ignore the warnings?

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    • Albaman says:

      Is that the same “regulatory system” that both Cameron and Osbourne are on record asking for the rules to be relaxed?

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      • Bodo says:

        This seems to be labours defence, pointing at the Conservatives and saying “not our fault, they should’ve stopped us doing it”.

        If you’re saying the Conservatives were useless in opposition, I agree 100%. Still doesn’t absolve labour of any blame tho. On a broader note, the Conservatives opposed removing regulation from the Bank of England, an institution that had done the job successfully for over 150 years.
        The FSA’s job was to report to government (not the opposition). Why did labour ignore what was apparently common knowledge in the FSA, that HBOS was a disaster in the making.

        I won’t hold my breath for the BBC to ask such questions. And frankly, the Conservatives are still too useless to ask them too.

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        • thoughtful says:

          But the banking crisis DID start in the USA with the lunatic left wing plan of the Democrats called the Community Reinvestment Act

          Far too complex to go into here so I’ll post a link:

          http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/2189196/clinton-democrats-are-to-blame-for-the-credit-crunch/

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          • David Preiser (USA) says:

            Yes, the sub-prime mortgage fiasco led to the credit crisis, but nothing in the US had anything to do with Gordon Brown borrowing and spending you into a precarious situation or putting all your eggs in the City basket or forcing HBOS onto Lloyds afterwards or creating a useless FSA or using PFIs to shift debt off the books, for example.

            Oh, and The Obamessiah wants to start it all over again. I eagerly await the sneering from Mark Mardell, and condemnation from Robert Peston and the usual line-up of economics and financial experts we see on the BBC.

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            • thoughtful says:

              Yes I’m aware Obama wants to restart the CRA, but then he was one of (if not the primary) the lawyers suing banks if they failed to lend.

              All of what you say is true of course but it did still start in the USA !

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            • Adi says:

              Moreover He wants to extend it to car loans as well.

              The Messiah is the most super awesomest genius.

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              • David Preiser (USA) says:

                And He’s having the government guarantee student loans now, just like what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac did with bad mortgages. But He’s still cool and the world loves us when He’s in charge, right, BBC?

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      • Span Ows says:

        “Is that the same “regulatory system” that both Cameron and Osbourne are on record asking for the rules to be relaxed?”

        No.

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      • Andy S. says:

        Albaman, twisting the facts again? The Conservatives actually said they didn’t want NEW regulation but wanted the existing regulations strengthened. It’s a bit different to your assertion to wanting regulations relaxed. You shouldn’t listen to Labour’s propaganda, or are you an activist who helps Labour produce their “facts”?

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        • uncle bup says:

          What the pretendies don’t understand that there is such a thing as good regulation and there is such a thing as bad regulation.

          Good regulation stops banks going bust.

          Bad regulation forces staff to count the number of Financial Times’ they read in a three months period.

          To the dross of the pretend left, all regulation is good regulation.

          Hope this helps.

          Thank me later.

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  49. Donavon Pfeiffer says:

    Interesting that the BBC couldn’t report on the topless jihad until there were counter protests and then the report was mainly on the counter protests to the topless jihad that had itself gone unreported.

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  50. +james says:

    See the BBC is not covering Topless Jihad Day. I thought they were interested in Wimins Rights. I wonder why?

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