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Channel 4’s reporting of the government shutdown in the US last night was of pure BBC quality – poor veterans/not Obama’s fault/Tea Party/County to ransom/free healthcare for the poor/blah blah blah – you would think the reporter had some kind of left political bias………………..Sarah Smith in Washington. Oh.
The bias stretches beyond even that I think, and the Beeb are equally adept at the same methodology. It’s quite. subtle, but conveys the BBC line.
Their vox pops include both sides, but it was noticeable when this matter was raised in the last few days on the BBC that many opponents of the Dems amongst the men and women in the streets are of the “America the Beautiful” stripe (no pun intended) happy to shed a tear on camera at the very mention of Old Glory. Of course, to many here in the UK, they do seem a little peculiar, as we don’t quite have the same misty eyed attachment to the Union Flag.
The Beeb don’t seem to seek out considered, rational points of view on the Republican side, but go straight for the outer edges of the Tea Party.
It is precisely because the BBC’s attitude is that the patriotism of those Tea Party types is somehow a refuge for scoundrels, and because the British public have bought into that hoary old bromide, that such people seem to be able to be derided.
In fact, the American blogosphere and chatterati are replete with many who believe that Obama has overplayed his hand in making the Repubs out to be villains. It would not be so hard as all that to have found some boring old assclown willing to come on and say that.
Because the MSM, in America as well, appears to ready to write off attention called to the ill-executed Obamacare rollout, and to the more overarching question of just how much more are the American public willing to take of endless governmental expansionism at great financial cost, as simply being Obama-hating (with an “obvious racial subtext”– cf. coverage of ONE Dixie Flag at Sunday’s bit of political theatre attended by Senators Cruz and Lee), that is the reason the BBC can feel justified in its reporting of events in Washington DC.
Perhaps if someone called the BBC on the carpet for taking the piss out of the protester types in DC, and we were to contrast their protest with what another protest was like, that of the “Immigration Reformers” held only a few days before, people probably would reject the seemingly-instinctive “bless-their-little-cotton-socks” feelings many Britons would seem to have for the Tea Partisans.
As for me, Fiat Libertatem Ruat Coelum, as far as what’s happening in the US.
Just like Mardell did in his last blog post. Yet the BBC makes the extra effort time and time again to instruct you all that it’s wrong to do this for certain other groups.
Would that be Sarah Smith, the daughter of the late John Smith. leader of the Labour party ? no nepotism there then !
What is it about lefties always recruited straight to the news media?
Steady no anyone might think your suggesting a De facto conspiracy
One good reason is that those of a conservative bent would never want to work for the state of it’s minions. They value freedom of action and thought far too much.
I cannot think of a single member of my family for three generations who has sucked at the state’s teat. Apart from soldiers that is and that is different and it was wartime.
A close relative of mine is a state employee in the NHS.
Growing up he was strongly pro small government, low taxation, low spending government.
Since taking the state’s shilling his position has flipped to a statist – give me more public money now– big government position.
I’ve known this person for 30 years and principles had nothing to do with it.
I deduce from this that to these people it’s less highfalutin rhetoric and public good and more cold hard cash.
I can empathise with that but I don’t have to respect it.
This is part of why I legally avoid paying the TV licence and funding the BBC.
I also have a relative who took early retirement from the local authority and spends his time on cruises while I work to earn the tax to pay for it all. Sickening.
I do too, Om, since I don’t have a tv and on the rare occasions when I do want to see anything, I can watch it at my mother’s place. (She’s old enough not to have to pay the licence fee). But I find myself rather irritated by the monthly envelopes plonking on the mat – no sae or anything – expecting me to waste time filling in a form and waste money posting it off in order explain myself. I bin ’em, of course, but what is it with these people that they just can’t leave you alone? Do you get those brown envelopes, or can you get them to stop somehow?
Channel 4, 5, ITV, bBC, maybe SKY… they’re all more or less as realistically spineless and disgracefully unbalanced as each other at just truthfully reflecting British consensus, Alan. The problem is of course that we HAVE TO (for some uniquely undemocratic reason) fund one of the constantly brainwashing gutless outfits!
John Smiths daughter-he of the Labour leader type who died in 1994.
What lefty bias?
Copyright David Brims so I find!
My name is Johann Hari!
Heard Rachael Burden say on Radio 5 the other day ” British people are going to Syria and coming back to Britain as terrorists.”
Now what kind of ‘British’ people go to war torn, hell hole Syria for a holiday ? Fed up with the lies and insidious liberal propaganda.
Yes, Islam Not BBC (INBBC)’s attempt to ‘normalise’ the murderous actions of our Islamic jihadist enemies.
the same people that would rush to a holiday hotspot utopia like … erm …Pakistan
The usual “kind”, the complete and utter pain in the arse kind that Britain needs rid of!
You, sir, are obviously a racist. It is patently obvious that British people travel to Syria for reasons other than terrorism.
Of course people go to Syria for holidays. It is the go to place for extreme sports. For example bullet dodging, the 200m dash through a cloud of ricin, civilian target shooting, the burning of Christian villages and, that old favourite, the putting of the hand grenade.
They’re “British ” when it suits them, like the Gitmo scum.
And this applies to U.K media (inc INBBC):-
“CAIR/ISNA spokeswoman: ‘Media in the US is very gullible…If you have something to say, especially as a Muslim, they’ll come running to you. Take advantage of that!'”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/10/cairisna-spokeswoman-media-in-the-us-is-very-gullibleif-you-have-something-to-say-especially-as-a-mu.html
Enjoy the football last night? The BBC didn’t. Terrible result, England winning.
Here’s how the BBC reported the behaviour of the Polish fans…
‘Poland, backed by about 20,000 supporters who contributed to a colourful and vibrant Wembley atmosphere’
And here’s the truth about the ‘colourful and vibrant’ away support….
‘Dozens of (Polish) fans lit flares in the away end causing smoke to billow onto the pitch during the national anthems. God Save the Queen was loudly booed and every England touch was greeted with loud whistles from the noisy Polish contingent. Questions have already been asked about how the Polish fans were able to get flares into the stadium, with many people voicing their anger on Twitter. They are listed on the banned items listed on the Wembley website and fans seen with them are supposed to be ejected from the ground.’
A Polish fan also ran onto the pitch in the middle of the game.
Can you imagine how the BBC would report such behaviour by England fans? As ‘colourful and vibrant’ no doubt. Still despite the result, the BBC must have been delighted to hear the national anthem being so loudly booed.
’twas like a home game for the Poles, goes to show what they think of their adopted country…
Don’t expect any respect from the Poles, their horse cavalry attacked panzers in 1939 and were slaughtered when someone attempted to take their land away from them.
There were 36 arrests, 35 of them Polish supporters.
Well said. I too have noticed the huge growth of PC brainwashing spreading like a rotten cancer throughout BBC Sport.
Good thing none of those Polish fans were the racist hordes Panorama was talking about before last year’s European tournament. I guess only the “colourful and vibrant” were allowed to come over.
Judging from BBC World’s response to the results from the world cup qualifiers, it was plucky little Muslim Bosnia’s qualification for the tournament we should be celebrating and not England’s. Sport Today waited until they very end to report England’s result. Imagine their delight if Bosnia had qualified whilst England hadn’t!
I’m just sorry that Israel didn’t qualify; but let’s hope they qualify for the world cup in Qatar; that would be such good fun!
“The BBC: a friend of the world alone.
A friend of every country but their own.”
A curious statement on radio 4 News that poor people getting food from the food banks are giving it back because they can’t afford to cook it !!! Am I the only one with a suspicion that this expalnation is trying to cover up something ?
Probably not the brand or type they were used to seems a more likely explanation
If you say to folks that you can have food for free, then it is likely that quite a few will take up your generous offer and save their own money. Honestly these liberal lefties, with the BBC at the forefront of course, must be soft in the head if they think that more people are using food banks because they otherwise couldn’t feed themselves.
It is due to the catastrophic fall in living standards since the Industrial Revolution. What we should do is return back to is a system in which people spend most of their time labouring to sustain a ruling elite, or even better, we ought to return back to the sort of collectivist economy in which if you cannot hunt it or gather it you starve to death equally. It is so much more natural.
Come on double thinker, if you’re going to post such things then at least make sure you have a modicum of insight !
If it is so easy to get these food parcels then try getting one!
The reality is that this evil government is using the food banks to stop paying people the benefits which many have paid towards.
Imagine you lost your job, and the brainless apparatchik stopped your money because you turned up 30 minutes late to sign on? Not because you were actually late, but because they changed your sign on time & didn’t bother to tell you!
Or you were at a job interview instead of the job centre, and they stopped your money because being at a job interview was not a good enough ‘excuse’ !
Or suppose you actually got a job and were due to start in a week, and stopped looking?
These are all real life examples of ridiculous reasons where claimants have had their money stopped. What would you have happen to them other than starving them to death? I presume even here that there aren’t people who advocate that although reading the last thread I’m not so sure!
The fact is that the food banks have allowed an evil uncaring government to take away the tiny amount of money for which many have paid for.
You cannot get a hand out from a food bank without a reference from social services or a doctor, people are beginning to starve and some of them are children.
It’s unacceptable.
Like I’ve said previously, walk down the street throwing £5.00 notes around and people will swarm around trying to pick up the floaty fivers – not because they are poor but because they see money for nothing. I note that the majority of “poor” people using the food banks seem to be able to afford large tattoos, coloured hair, designer clothing for their kids, mobile phones and have Sky dishes mounted outside their homes.
I refuse to donate anything to food banks as I really do believe they are a party political stunt by lefties to embarrass the government. Check the bona fides of most of those running these food banks and you will find most of them have been Labour Party activists – example The British Red Cross giving out food parcels to the poor “for the very first time in this country”. The Chief Executive of the B.R.C. just happens to be the Executive Chairman of the Labour Party. Save The Children bring out a report that says there are now more children in poverty and on starvation diets and one of their top brass used to be a Labour Councillor and friend of Gordon Brown.
Thoughtful, do you really believe that all these food banks have been created for truly altruistic reasons?
No I don’t believe that they have been created for altruistic reasons, nor do I accept the lying child poverty action group definition of poverty which they set at just about the levels of benefits.
Andy do you have any evidence that the people with the products you mention have purchased them directly from the pittance of benefit money? Or are you like so many here begrudging people entitlement to the benefits which they have paid for while working, and the products which they probably bought with earned wages !
How many of these people have you followed home from the food banks to witness the sky TV dishes, large flat screen TVs (BTW you can’t buy any other kind!) etc etc?
I wonder how many people would like insurance companies to say ‘we’re not paying you out because you have tattoos, smoke, drink, and have a large TV?
Just how many people taking advantage of free grub do you think are in receipt of benefits from a system they’ve paid into all their working lives? There have been enough reports on BBC News, both national and local, showing footage of people queueing at food banks. Some have even been interviewed both at the location and at their homes. You only have to observe the details of the footage which gives ample evidence of my conclusions. Many of those pictured and interviewed have obviously never worked or paid into the system ( single motherhood with numerous kids as a career choice, etc.). Their sense of entitlement is the clincher.
And yes, I do begrudge most benefit claimants receiving more in benefits than I receive on my fixed income ( small occupational pension). I pay tax on that fixed income, something a huge number of benefit claimants in this country have NEVER done.
I have to budget my expenditure accordingly. Never live beyond my means. I care for a wife who has survived a stroke AND a massive pulmonary embolism. Now she is crippled with fybromyalgia. She has to pay fortnightly visits to our local hospital for check ups and blood tests. She has been refused any help from the state,even though we’ve both paid into the system, while others seem to be able to claim disability benefits for years just by telling the authorities they suffer from depression or “bad backs”.
The genuine people who may find themselves out of work often are only able to claim minimal benefits. The professional unemployed know all the right things to say, and all the right benefits to apply for in order to maximise their taxpayer funded lifestyles.
Am I bitter? Too bloody right I am!
By the way, I watched a very interesting programme on Channel 5 the other night called “On Benefits and Proud of it!” All the sense of entitlement in the world on display throughout that programme shown by people who made it plain that they thought they had a right to be able to live off the backs of decent taxpayers. That was a programme that NEVER would have been made by the BBC.
very well said Andy S
In Spain unemployment benefit is time limited at a very generous 2 years (reduction after one year); seems a simple solution.
these people have obviously never spent any time on the dole.
When i got out of the army in 1995, i didnt get full benefits because i bought myself out. I think i was on about £20 a week. i eventually appealed and won, took a couple of months tho, even then i only got about £35 a week.
i used to sit in the dark, no electricity, no gas to keep warm. Get up in the morning and throw up bile because i couldnt afford to eat
after all the shit i went through serving my country, losing friends and having to deal with the PDST that comes with doing that job, i hit rock bottom.
i felt my country had let me down the system had let me down. But what made it worse, was scumbags, who had done absolutely fuck all for their country used to call be a benefit scrounger, lazy, dole cheat etc. I risked my life for these people and they call me what?! isee a lot of them people posting here
At rock bottom i thought to myself something along the lines of “the army gave me a rifle to protect myself, the only way i can protect myself now is if i was a lawyer, i wish i was a lawyer
I eventually went to uni in 1998, got a good degree and a very good, well paid job and im now self employed. i earn silly money.
ive never forgot my roots, and how bad it was on the dole and how bad the country and its people treated me at that time
5 Live had a man from Cardiff Foodbank on today. There’s a long list of organisations that hold food vouchers on their website. The two that stunned me were
Cardiff West Constituency Office (
Labour )
Plaid Cymru
These are all real life examples of ridiculous reasons where claimants have had their money stopped.
hmmm…real life one side of the ‘reason’:
“Not because you were actually late, but because they changed your sign on time & didn’t bother to tell you!”
You mean the person didn’t read the mail/forgot but had to make some excuse.
Or you were at a job interview instead of the job centre, and they stopped your money because being at a job interview was not a good enough ‘excuse’ !”
No, they weren’t told it was a job interview but when they were told the person got the benefit paid (do you REALLY think even the most moronic job centre clerk would say a job interview isn’t a good excuse?)
Or suppose you actually got a job and were due to start in a week, and stopped looking?
So you didn’t show up as you were meant to? So they stopped the benefit…and then paid the due week when all was explained?
I suspect those real life examples are elaborations…
Come on Span Ows you’re getting as bad as the socialists, believing the facts you want to, and not the ones which inconveniently destroy what you want the world to be.
Well here’s the one about the job interview and it’s the Daily Mail too !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2347281/Unemployed-graduate-benefits-stopped-missing-job-centre-appointment-INTERVIEW.html
The story about the man who had his benefits stopped while he was waiting to start a new job is about halfway down the page here:
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/feb/10/york-living-wage-spending-cuts-poverty-spreads
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/apr/01/jobcentres-tricking-people-benefit-sanctions
So now you have the evidence that they are truthful honest and not elaborations, I take it you will agree with me that this is an evil government unfairly taking money from those who have often paid their insurance premium, in some cases for decades.
??? I didn’t say they weren’t true and the source doesn’t matter to me: I said there these ‘reasons’ were one side: the first link says that they told her NOT to come in on my regular signing-on day so simple proof of that (she says she had a new scheduled appointment so proof was probably easy) would mean getting the benefits; the second link says he was sanctioned but it doesn’t have the details: show me where the sanction was upheld and he wasn’t paid those benefits.
Of course that level of proof is not available, but the scale of these sanctions is truly ridiculous, at the end of 2012 there had been 2 1/4 million benefits claimants sanctioned since the coalition came to power.
Now I’m quite prepared to admit there are people swinging the lead and who deserve sanction, but not on this scale!
People working at the DWP are speaking out about the attacks on people who often through no fault of their own find themselves needing to claim benefits, and having paid in for those benefits, it is wrong for some apparatchik to remove them for a spurious reason,
I agree entirely with your final paragraph but, to go back to that York link: “…in one case a man was given a job, beginning a fortnight later, and was sanctioned for not seeking work in the intervening 14 days.”
Thoughtful says: “people are beginning to starve and some of them are children. It’s unacceptable.”
Seen as you so enjoyed asking stuff of others.. when do you reckon we’re gonna start seeing children here dieing of starvation then?
I can’t actually back up the tales you tell, Thoughtful, but it sounds about right. If there was time I could add a couple of similar ones from my own experience. I’ve got a job now after a considerable struggle and am doing all right, But after losing my last job I rapidly concluded that if you become unemployed and go and sign on, then you get another job in spite of the Job Centre (and their various, useless, tick-box programmes), not because of it. I’m no bleeding heart leftie either. But I do believe in treating people honestly and civilly. The J C is just another bloated government agency and it operates as much for the benefit of the people who run it as it does to help the unemployed or get value for the taxpayer.
Of course some “can’t afford to cook it”! If it means going without mobile phones (gotta have those!), running a car, internet and laptops, huge frontroom television, bedroom television/s, PlayStation, SKY, adidas trainers, family size bags of Walkers, McDonald’s, etc..
Priorities!
Oh and lottery scratchcards, nearly forgot those. Poor starving (most look anything but skeletal!) trogs on our estate can’t get enough of ’em down our local shops.
Special brew lager, fags?
yeah dont forget the fags, £7 a packet.
and the rest.
Fireworks?
What if we employed fat people to sit on said food until it warmed up a bit?
Two sets of jobs there-and all Council ones too, as monitored by charities, quangos and the BMA nazis.
People to weigh them, take rectal temperatures and to hoist them off-as well as sto stop them eating it…loads of jobs here.
They`d all vote Labour if we allowed rice paper to be used…or the back of a Pizzahut box maybe?
Put `em all back to work…let the grandkids starve even more…and put the ads in the Guardian before it goes belly up!
New Labout `til I die!
You mean like costs that our next great leader is pledging to freeze? them kind of things?
Yes, very temporarily “freeze” – inbetween energy companies simply hiking up prices to compensate themselves for!
Red Ed’s ingenuity must truly frighten himself at times.
[Reposted from the fag end of the last open threat – whoops… am I still allowed to use the word “fag” in any context that could be construed as derogatory? Perhaps the BBC could with some former Pop Idol winner?]
BBC Nicky Campbell busy this morning proving that old adage it’s not what you know its who you know….
Campbell to boss of KFC: ‘You use zero hours contracts don’t you…?’
Boss of KFC: ‘No’
Campbell: ‘Oh, I thought you did’
Meanwhile on Twitter….
David Miliband @DMiliband 8h
Government #shutdown puts #refugee arrivals on hold. One anxious family’s story via @theirc: https://www.rescue.org/4Wp6
Nicky Campbell @NickyAACampbell 3h
@DMiliband D only have yr old E mail. need to ask sommat. could you follow for DM
And there was me thinking the BBC employed a battalion of Beeboid Left-orientated journos to feed them their news from over the pond
Yeah hi David, yeah it’s me Nicky – you know Nicky Campbell – no I said NICKY Campbell. From the BBC…. yeah and Wheel of Fortune. Anyway I need to ask you sommat!
Yeah would really really like some story about that anxious refugee family refused on arrival due to the Republican shutdown. Yeah straight to air on the BBC David.
yeah! come on DM … you know me … nikkeee … yep! that’s it – “interesting hair”?
if their are any more delays ..
I ll just throw them in as a “loss leader” on Long Lost Families – never forget the old caring image …” Noostrangaatehcharidee! “and all that.
wink! wink!
What does, ‘sommat’ mean ? Only, I am poorly educated and con speak only one language – English.
Bollocks ! con, should have said can.
It can be quite entertaining watching the twitter feed to see the BBC line, and complementing guest list evolve from researcher plea posts.
I only follow the major BBC brands, but of course to get noticed these munchkins have to include their programme to stand a chance of getting a bite, hence it appearing in stead of news… ‘Hi, Daffodil from #Newsnight here…pleeeeease DM me as no one comes on after Ian dissed even a Labour luvvie’.
Why doesn’t he go and investigate the Guardian?
http://order-order.com/2013/08/08/zero-sense-of-irony-at-the-guardian/
Hey, let’s put on a show!
Don’t you just lurve musicals!?
No, frankly nor do I. But I suppose there’s an audience out there that does.
Anyway the BBC has this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/showsandtours/shows/shows/15_minute_musical_novdec13
’15 Minute Musical gets its musical teeth into public figures and institutions and gives them the West End Musical make-over they deserve. In tailor-made, bite-size, original, fabricated, sugar-coated, glorious musicals. Musicals will include un-insightful homages to Vladimir Putin, Nigel Farage and some political figures.’
Couple of issues.
First semantics….Putin, Farage and some political figures? So Putin and Farage ain’t political?
Gosh, I bet lowly UKIP MEP Nigel would be proud to be put up there on a plane with world statesman Vladimir – I suppose the BBC think he is important. Important enough to have a poke at.
Now I wonder who those other political figures might be? Anyone from the Left I wonder. Remains to be seen. The BBC aren’t shouting about it.
Miliband Minor makes me laugh. Perhaps they could do Ed and his Amazing Technicoloured Dream Coat? Harriet Harman in Les Ms? Oh stop it, I’m gifting them ideas.
It’s worth repeating: The BBC have assured us all that they just cannot find any right-wing comedians. This explains perfectly clearly why 99.9% of BBC ‘comedy’ is left-wing, red in tooth and claw. There are no right-wing comedians ergo there is no bias at BBC Comedy. Hope that’s all clear now.
Hands up, how many of you actually think the BBC ever really tried looking..?
Truth be known they can’t find any left wing comedians either.
Doesn’t stop them employing people who claim to be though, does it?
Is it that difficult to find comedians who are apolitical? Most of them were, pre-Thatcher. Or is it simply that every R4 programme must adhere to one or more agendas from the approved list?
BBC News24 has just interviewed David Davis, who criticized the Police Federation’s investigation of the Andrew Mitchell case. The interviewer ended by saying, “That was David Davis, friend of Andrew Mitchell”. And that was the BBC, ‘friend of Ed Miliband’.
More like conjoined twin!
” PM says police owe Andrew Mitchell apology”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24546370
And Beeboids owe Mr Mitchell an apology too, for their reporting of the matter since 2012.
Two fantastic interviews with the police commisioner defending the three policemen who lied about their meeting with Andrew Mitchell……Brillo on BBC and Andrew Boulton on Sky…they both took him to pieces. This commisioner, Bob Jones, was defending the indefensible, but I have just looked up which party he is from (not mentioned by BBC or Sky) and surprise surprise he is Labour!!!! Wonder if any station is going to mention this fact?
“I have just looked up which Party he is from”
If only Newsnight had your investigative abilities they might have stopped themselves from asserting that a [Conservative] Cabinet Minister raped children.
Never mind at least the famously impartial BBC Newsnight team of journalists exposed the lies of the police public sector union as they successfully smeared a [Conservative] Cabinet Minister.
Oh no that was Channel Four. The BBC was too busy making NOT making programmes about BBC employes who actually DID rape children.
The BBC was too busy NOT making programmes about various BBC employees who actually DID rape children.
Funny you should say that ..
http://www.staffordshirenewsletter.co.uk/Home/Ex-BBC-man-a-predatory-paedophile-0-7893839.xnf
Just watched the interview with Bob Jones. A gold standard rant fest – brilliantly entertaining, and he seems to think that the police are the victims in this case. Luckily, his days in any position of authority are numbered after that performance. He claims that the case was investigated thoroughly – clearly the process didn’t admit the tape made by Mitchell as germaine.
His rabid defence of the process in the face of the fuc**ng obvious clearly shows that the process itself has been utterly biased and should imediately be opened to public scrutiny.
The stench of conspiracy about this case is worse than a 4 week dead sheep. And lets not forget the “PC Pleb” T shirts and Miliband’s class war rants in PMQ’s…..
If they had a shred of integrity those police officers should resign, and that goes for the Chief Constables as well.
The police commissioner, Bob Jones , should resign on the grounds that he is too stupid even to be a Labour commissioner. Well its either that he is extraordinarily stupid, or, that, being Labour, he simply didn’t reckon on a hostile interview from the BBC about yet another public service scandal. Unfortunately he ran into Andrew Neil who is one of the few fair and balanced interviewers on the BBC. he might have got away with it otherwise.
The Tories are on to something when they insist on allowing sunlight into the closed and murky world of the public sector. Every time they do it we find a can stuffed with fat worms who blink in the daylight and try to defend their poor, but very expensive, service to the public. Recently the NHS, Education, BBC, Police have all shown typical poor public service performance. The Tories should keep on throwing open the shutters and let the sunlight to show just how self serving, uncaring and corrupt the public sector and their Labour friends are. Voters take note.
Let there be light (and a free press).
People dying in hospitals, children suffering unbelievable abuse, policemen lying for political reasons – no-one ever seems to lose their job?
”Let there be light (and a free press). ”
Not if the NUJ has got anything to do with it, there guidelines on reporting black crime and muslim terrorism.
ethicaljournalisminitiative.org/en/contents/nuj-guidelines-on-race-reporting
And David Cameron owes him an apology too for bowing to the Leftie hoard…can you imagine Margaret Thatcher doing that ?
Absolutely right. Cameron owes him – big time.
Significant material on: –
Sham Marriages and Illegal Immigration for Beeboids to report, if they choose to do so:-
“15,000 civil marriages every years are bogus:
1 in 5 weddings held in cities is faked to get around migration laws”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2462051/15-000-civil-marriages-years-bogus-1-5-weddings-migration-laws.html?ico=news^headlines
Supplementary.
‘Sky News’:-
(inc video clip)
“Immigration: ‘One In Five Marriages A Sham.’
“Around 20% of weddings in urban areas are bogus, it is claimed, as figures show the number of reported cases stands at 1,800.”
http://news.sky.com/story/1155062/immigration-one-in-five-marriages-a-sham
makes the divorce figures less harsh than we were led to believe.
It always fell to Stephanie Flanders to drown good economic news with bad news that would neutralise any benefit for the Tories. She has gone, but Linda Yueh seems to have stepped forward to take over that role – see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24550075. Makes poor old Steph seem a relative amateur by comparison!
Crikey!! What a miserable article. Come back Steph!!!
Audio-visual equipment and computers are 25% cheaper, although for many of these goods, it’s because the ONS makes an adjustment to the price to reflect rapid improvements in quality.
I didn’t know the ONS had the power to enact price controls.
what really pisses me of about radio 5 live and the bbc this week is this,4 men according to the bbc who are of pakistani,turkish,somalian and azerbaijanian origin were arrrsted in london of suspicion of planning a mumbai type terrorist attack.now here is the problem with this story,these men have been described by the bbc as british citixens,british nationals and british residents by the politacaly correct bbc,why is it when these pillocks who are not born here and came here as bogus asylum seekeers from abroad get caught planning terrorist attacks in are country are all of a sudden become british in the eyes of the bbc,no way hosey,these men are foreign terrorists and should be described as such.the abuse of this word british sickens me to my teeth,stop calling them british radiom 5 live and the bbc.
ISLAMIC TERROR SUSPECTS!
sheesh! even looks like youtube is much more truthful than the bbc
When some accident or tragedy (air crash/train crash/earthquake etc) happens elsewhere in the world and I hear the headlines “Britons are though to have been killed” it no longer has the impact on me that it once did, because a Briton to the BBC is not what a Briton is to me …
I am not British ! I am English. There is a difference you know.
;o)
You are both.
The government can call me what they want, make me have a British passport etc, but thats just a piece of paper, im English and bloody damn proud of it as well, which has the added bonus of horrifying lefties
me too.
I loved the wilshire thing. The left didn’t know what to do.
When you’ve spent decades denigrating all things English, its it bit awkward to then claim Iqbal from islamabad whose been here for 5 years is English.
“You are both”
Don’t be so sure.
The Words European Union are emblazoned across the top of my passport. The EU bureaucracy refer to the UK as a region. The way I see it if politicians have given up my country’s sovereignty, without my consent, then I am free to choose whatever identity I choose.
And I choose English.
Get a nice black permanent felt pen & cross through the `european union` bit on the cover , which I do ,then I pop it in my leather bound English passport cover . Job done!
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/guilty-ilyas-ashar-convicted-raping-6194610
An amazing story, but one which alas is becoming all too commonplace.
The BBC have covered it on their website, but that might just be to cover their backs, I wonder how much prominence it will be given in the mainstream media given the ethnic backgrounds involved.
If this had been someone white there would be calls in the media for execution, and by God they both deserve it.
Feel the enrichment.
The vibrancy
The diversity
The news came in yesterday. How will the BBC cover it, if at all?
Compare:
Reuters Russian official rules out Arafat polonium poisoning Subhead: The head of a Russian forensics agency said on Tuesday that samples from the body of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat had revealed no traces of radioactive polonium, a Russian news agency reported.
Guardian Yasser Arafat’s belongings have traces of polonium-210, say Swiss scientists Subhead: Discovery ‘supports possibility Palestinian leader was poisoned with radioactive substance’ but Russians reject suggestion
if you come here from abroad as a immigrant/asylum seeker then abuse are hospitalty and commit crime and terrorism,you should be stripped of your british citixenship and put on the next plane back to the third world dungheap you came from
Labour imported Third Worlders for one thing and one thing only, their vote.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html
Used to be the case pre Labour. It was dubbed ‘a prison with 3 walls’, ie serve your sentence then go home… or stay in jail.
It’s non-stop food banks, food banks, food banks across the old Beeb today.
Could they possibly be pushing an agenda we’re not aware of?
Maybe I’m a cynic but it seems that those “needy” folk pictured eagerly awaiting their handouts are anything but underfed.
Could it be they’re pissing their benefits away elsewhere?
Surely the Beeb will investigate this line?
Nope. Surely not
If they can get the basics free, then they can buy more of the food that makes them obese.
So Food banks must be causing the increase in obesity.
I bet this food bank idea is a Labour activist public relations plot against cuts in spending taxpayer money, so I wouldn’t be surprised to find its all being funded by the taxpayer.
Benefits offices are now giving out food bank vouchers as part of crisis loans. So of course the number of users have gone up.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-24549955
I’m surprised that the BBC have actually got around to reporting this story about these evil bastards. It must have stuck in their craw. Good old ‘Asian’ enrichment again. (Cue the racist accusations)
According to cultural relativism and multiculturism, we shoudl not be punishing them for their actions, nor making judgment of their actions. ethics and right and wrong are relative.
Welcome to multicultural Britain.
An ‘Eccles couple’ no less
‘The passport used to allow the girl into the UK claimed she was 20, and it was a matter of “mystery and concern” how immigration officials at Heathrow did not spot the difference in age.’
Only to the BBC. A mystery that is, its even more of a concern to those who understand how this poor girl got through customs.
Waved through by fellow cake makers perhaps
My moneys on the old niqab/ burka trick.
Another atrocity as a result of the british left wing.
I’ve just read that disgusting story but as it concerns the bBC’s favourite bunch of innocent victims they dilute the full facts , which is why at the end they point in the direction of the British authorities as the reason this poor child was kept as a slave by these Paki followers of Allah. Here are a few snippets from the Manchester Evening News
Guilty: Man who raped deaf orphan girl he trafficked into UK from PakistanThe young victim, who couldn’t speak, was brought from Pakistan to Salford where she suffered a decade of harrowing sexual abuse at the hands of Ilyas Ashar, who also forced her to work at his Eccles homeA man was today convicted of raping a deaf orphan girl he trafficked into the country with his wife from Pakistan.The young victim, who couldn’t speak, suffered a decade of harrowing sexual abuse at the hands of Ilyas Ashar.
She was also forced to work at the family home in Eccles, Salford, as a domestic servant and slept in the cellar. Under the threat of violence, she was made to cook, clean, sew and wash cars for the family and their friends.
Get that, all the family were in the act of abusing a child, was it the family, was it their subscription to the gay death cult, or is it just a f-ing Paki thing?
But it gets worse:
The girl, who weighed just 4st 8lb, was taught to sign her name by the family, who used her to claim more than £30,000 in benefits which they kept. The Ashars, who have five children, own and rent out properties in the Salford area. They also own property in Pakistan, including a factory, and are understood to have links to a market stall. Ilyas Ashar was found guilty today at a re-trial of 13 counts of rape.
and there’s more
“At no stage have the defendants shown any remorse, or admitted to what they did to a girl, who was only as young as 10 when this began.”Despite the fact that her disabilities would have been apparent to anyone, they never once sought help for her or let her get any kind of formal or informal education.”
And when I refer to female sex organs such as these evil people as ‘Paki Bastards’ Dicksplash liberal arsehole ‘Wild’ gets all offended.
You know what I say, deport each and everyone of this family (And their extended family) take away everything they own before they go and give it all to this little girl and other victims of Paki criminality.
and here is the Guardian version which pulls no punches
Man guilty of repeated rape of trafficked servant girl held in UK
It’s now the top BBC UK story, but as said, it’s heavily sanitised.
Hmmmmmmm………………..no comments section
Well said Pounce.
Supplementary.
To be fully reported by BBC-NUJ at Media City, Salford?:-
“Inside the basement where a pensioner and his wife kept deaf and mute girl as a sex slave for NINE YEARS after trafficking her from Pakistan to claim extra benefits.
“Victim was trafficked from Pakistan to the UK at the age of 10.
“Was repeatedly raped by Ilyas Ashar at his home in Cromwell Road, Salford.
“Spent a grueling 49 days in the witness box reliving the horror.
“The 84-year old was convicted of 13 counts of rape and benefit fraud. ”
By WILLS ROBINSON.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2463277/Inside-basement-pensioner-wife-kept-deaf-mute-girl-used-sex-slave.html
She was brought in to the UK in 2000. Just as the borders were dissolved, and the passport used claimed she was 20 when she was actually 10.
Whats the chances she was wearing a burka?
Why can’t these people be deported? It sounds such an obvious thing to do, and yet it never seems to happen.
As of 20:16 the Telegraph still hasn’t reported the verdict. Unless they’ve got a front-page spread planned (which this story deserves) there’s no excuse.
Good old Russia – ironically the only place for common sense and good news……………http://www.itv.com/news/2013-10-15/russias-hard-knock-uncracked-by-plight-of-greenpeace-activists/
Love it!
Aldous Huxley said in 1958 that in the future the West may become more totalitarian while Russia may become more free. Stranger things have happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TQZ-2iMUR0&list=PLB2A033A0BDAFE070
i’d love it if they were given 15 years hard labour down a coal mine or something like that, something to do with the fossil fuel industry
Russia was once the darling of the lefties. I wonder what they think of her now? The more I see of Putin the more I respect him.
As for Greenpeace. Oh dear !
Serial offenders 5 Live failing to come clean about who they are interviewing – again. “A J Singh joins us. He’s in Cardiff. He’s a postal worker,” says Richard Bacon. He is indeed a postal worker, but he is more than just a postal worker, and I doubt he as anything to do with delivering letters these days.
Wales TUC elects CWU’s AJ Singh as president
4th July 2012
South East Wales Amal Branch secretary Amarjite Singh is determined to “progress the equalities agenda and turn the tide on union membership levels” during his year as Wales TUC (WTUC) president, to which he was elected last month.
‘“A J Singh joins us. He’s in Cardiff. He’s a postal worker,”
No room for… anything other than what serves the narrative. Or, propaganda backed by censorship.
One day they’ll find the weight of such games catches up with them.
Rule #1 in effect, as usual.
Unemployment down comprehensively……. so how does the BBC News 24 cover this in the six o’clock news
1) Mention the fact that unemployment is radically down (20 seconds)
2) Go to Kentucky Fried Chicken to explain that there was a demand for workers there as “there is a growing need for cheap food”*
3) Interview a girl who can’t get a job (What jobs are she applying for?)
4) Give coverage to Miliband’s PMQ bleating about a cost-of-living crisis
5) The coup-de-grace 7 mins on fuc**ng FOOD BANKS with an obese trainee hairdresser complaining that she can’t afford to eat. Perhaps she should have paid attention in school then.
*I could easily feed a family of four with a healthy meal for the price of one two piece chicken meal
CCE wrote:
“The coup-de-grace 7 mins on fuc**ng FOOD BANKS with an obese trainee hairdresser complaining that she can’t afford to eat. Perhaps she should have paid attention in school then.”
I noticed that at lunch time, and to be honest all I could think about was: How much does she spend a month on her Mobile Phone, Alcohol and going out. Yes there are people who need help be it Government/Food banks or charity’s. But I am pretty sure there are people out there playing the system for their own gain.
Bound to just be big boned, have some glandular problem or something.
*I could easily feed a family of four with a healthy meal for the price of one two piece chicken meal
I thought that fat woman’s diet could probably feed a small African country.
So KFC is cheap food? FFS.
Taking basic ingredients and making your family’s food from scratch is cheaper, better quality, healthier, and far more satisfying to the soul. I’m not on the breadline but I even make my own sausages and mince nowadays. Buy your own cuts of meat, put them through the mincer and voilà – top tasting gear that’s less expensive than the fatty gristly options in the supermarket.
To cook good food from cheap ingredients you just need to set aside a bit of time. Anyone who claims poverty while feeding their family a KFC bucket can go fuck themselves.
Can’t stand the stuff, but my boys love it, so it is often a once a month ‘treat’.
We tend to eat cheaper, and lot better, the rest of the time at home by our own efforts.
Don’t get me wrong – nothing against KFC, just the bullshit about it being poverty food.
I have. But you are right, poverty food it is not.
I would like my £145.50 to buy me 290 meals free at the Media City Canteen up in Salford, where the BBC reside.
All appilcants should be Harpurhey or Little Hulton residents please…and their Staffies are also entitled to a bone, and a chance to enrich the Blue Peter Compost bin…or Alan Yentobs office-whichever is nearer!
It`s my BBC-it`s my right to demand this-John Birt says so.
Even the New Yorker’s Ryan Lizza is acknowledging that problems surrounding Obamacare could be a bigger political problem for the Dems than the debt stand-off is for the GOP. And yet the BBC still hasn’t reported on this issue. Eventually the Obama guards at the BBC will have to do something on this, and it’s going to be amusing to see how they pretend they were covering the story all along.
And should anybody think that senior BBC journos don’t follow Ryan Lizza’s opinions:
You can add the Australian Broadcasting Corporation to that list. Top of the news items this morning -“The destruction of the GOP and the country disgust with their politicians”
You had to get right into the story to realise that the disgust was for ALL politicians from BOTH parties, but I think you will agree that it reads rather differently – and when said with venom, it was certainly intended to be understood as such.
Watched Pointless earlier today, we’ll one needs a hobby …
First question was ‘name members of the Cabinet 1997-2010’. More pro-Labour propaganda? We’ll not really as the couple who lost guessed Kenneth Clarke and Boris Johnson! The top answers were a laugh Prescott 15, Ed Milliband 13 and Ed Balls 13.
Apparently more people could name the Telly Tubby Po than the top ten Labour Ministers.
So, either the pro Labour agitprop is failing or the expunging of the years 1997-2010 has worked better than they could ever wish.
BBC’s Watchdog is on right now. I missed the first half of the programme. Did they get David Cameron on, as leader of the Tory party, for a 10 minute Tory party political broadcast – ie balancing out having Ed Miliband on last week for a bit of pre-planned interviewing? I am sure they would have done.
I doubt that very much. I am sure though that they would have pointed out that Milliband’s green taxes are responsible for a large chunk of the energy price increases. Like f**k!
I did notice that in a previous episode the Botox queen was having a dig at how much the CEO’s of the energy companies earn. Not as much as she does I’d bet.
Mark Mardell is disgusting as ever. He begins a short blog post about how the Republicans are in the process of caving in on the debt ceiling and government shut down with this:
More than that, in just a few hours they hit on a formula that flawlessly exposed their own division, underscored their leadership’s weakness and highlighted the extent of their humiliation.
I read one far-right blog this week that claimed President Obama was a Soviet mole, planted at childhood.
This egregious, a non sequitur. The only reason he threw this in was to once again demonize and smear millions of people with the actions of the fringe. Mardell and his BBC colleagues do this often with Republicans and the Tea Party, but they’re not allowed to do it for, say, Mohammedans. In fact, the BBC has done countless shows and segments about how this is wrong.
Double standards and extreme partisan bias are the rule of the day at the BBC.
I also note the hypocrisy of criticizing the Republicans for grandstanding while refusing to report on the shutdown theatrics of the Administration.
Go ahead, lurking and non-lurking journalists, tell me I’m reading something that isn’t there.
And another attempt from Lardell to put the boot in once more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24559866
I’m hoping that the congress republicans hold the line and throw this bill out – whilst wiping the smug smirk off Lardell’s face might almost be worth it alone, there is a deeper issue at play here – the 2014 elections. If, despite the Tea Party momentum, the republicans cave so openly and publicly on an issue where they are completely in the right (legislation by appropriation is an established means to drive out bad laws), I suspect it will dishearten the constitutional libertarian/conservative vote next year.
From a financial perspective, this is a complete non-issue – the US can and would continue to pay interest on its debts, and if Obama tried to shutdown payments illegally as he’s shutdown open-air parks during the last few days, his advisors would be forced to remind him that doing so would be an impeachable offence. To underline how much of a non-issue this is, just observe the fact that the markets are completely unfazed by all the so-called political wrangling. What we have here is a level of dissembling from the mainstream media (both US based and the BBC) that Goebbels would be envious of; quite bluntly, they have painted a false picture that is designed to mislead the electorate, in order that government spending continues unabated despite the very controls that exist in the Consitution to prevent such being used exactly in the manner that they were intended to be used by the founding fathers.
The BBC’s bias during this whole affair is beyond the pale, even for those of us accustomed to their rabidly marxist views. We’ve had stories, that because of this ‘shutdown’, young children are being denied medicine, and newly-weds separated due to visa issues, along with no mention of how this is principally Obama’s failing as a Chief Executive who believes that negotiation and compromise is beneath him (except of course, when he’s inserting loopholes on behalf of his favoured groups).
The dredging up of unattested propaganda by Lardell just adds to the overall miasma surrounding the BBC ‘reporting’ of whats going on.
It seems inconceivable that ‘a handful of tea party senators’ can hold the entire American political system to ransom? That’s how C4 & BBC & MSM seem to spin this……..Surely there must be a numbers vote?
The Democrats don’t have a super-majority in the Senate, so they need a couple of Republican votes. Of course, the US MSM and their fellow travelers at the BBC would never dream of suggesting that the President and the Democrats were holding the country hostage over a partisan agenda.
Back when the Democrats did rule both houses and could pass laws without a single Republican vote, Mark Mardell saw it as a Golden Age. To many people, democracy simply means getting their way, because of course they can’t imagine that any decent, right-thinking person would disagree with them.
“I read one far-right blog this week that claimed President Obama was a Soviet mole, planted at childhood.”
I read an article by a Democrat-supporting journalist who hoped Ted Cruz and John Boehner would die. How did I find it? I followed a link from Mark Mardell:
This business of drawing attention to obscure items – one Confederate flag at a rally, one comment from an unnamed “far-right blog” – and giving them undue significance is now standard practice at BBC US. Mardell is probably the number one exponent of this “journalism”. He’s a lazy fat fuck who has a predetermined prejudiced narrative and he picks only those facts that fit, however unrepresentative.
The disgusting Mardell can link to that, but not to this Politico article:
Once you get into ACA website, it’s hard to get out
The silence on this issue from our defenders of the indefensible and lurking and non-lurking journalists is deafening. And not at all surprising, considering their priorities.
“This business of drawing attention to obscure items… giving them undue significance is now standard practice at BBC US.”
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I’d have to say it is not restricted to him/them, but this ‘business’ is indeed a dire SOP of the entire tribally-motivated MSM.
They’ll ignore the totality and grab any sideshow spoiler, provided by inevitable errant numpties (or, more concerning, potential false flags) and run with this instead.
The most interesting part is when actual, significant, institutional abuses on the part of those they hold dear are factually exposed, the defensive screams of ‘attack’ suddenly ring out.
Such multiple standards are often a joy to behold, but if aired un-noticed, the effect can be pernicious.
“The most interesting part is when actual, significant, institutional abuses on the part of those they hold dear are factually exposed, the defensive screams of ‘attack’ suddenly ring out. Such multiple standards are often a joy to behold, but if aired un-noticed, the effect can be pernicious.”
Nicely put Guest Who.
Just watching Stephen Fry’s gay rights series on BBC 2. They never seem to go to Muslim countries to protest, or outside a mosque. It’s always those nasty Christians or Russians who are to blame, but never Muslims. Perhaps Fry will visit a Muslim country to champion gay rights, but I just feel that it’s always the wets which is to blame when, in fact, Muslims want gays to be executed. Lefty cowardice? You decide.
I noticed that as well, I also wondered why they used India as a good example ,could it be they used that as a smokescreen for their fav religios bigots
Send Yentob-he`s over paid, has plenty time on his hands and some spare change(£330,000 and rising).
But can he weep as copiously as Fry?
I envisage another bout of depression from Fry soon-and the BBC will pay his BUPA bill because they caused him to be upset!
Never a personal trauma at the BBC that we`ll not be stumping up for…Frys Turkish Delight…but those nasty fezzy wezzies won`t let him visit the baths…oh dear!
Fry stated openly near the beginning of the first installment that his producers told him it was too dangerous to go to those countries where homosexual activity was a hanging offense. Apparently the countries where this happens weren’t colonized by the evil British Empire so religion in general is to blame, as he stated clearly that he didn’t want to blame any one religion in particular, all of them being equally bad on this issue in his opinion.
It’s not a stretch to call it cowardice, as nobody honestly believes that a celebrity with the power of the BBC behind him would be strung up the moment he got off the plane. But it’s okay to harangue a black man with a big cross on his lapel, because British Imperialism.
Fry is such a bigoted individual he seems at first glance to be a poor choice to front a programme about tolerance, but it soon became clear that the programme makers were almost as deranged with hatred as the people they were attacking.
How telling that when they showed the debate on gay marriage in Parliament they could only bring themselves to show a speech by a Labour MP.
We were asked to believe that it was because they were Christians that some Brazilian skinheads tortured a young gay man for two hours before killing him.
According to Fry, that’s the fault of the British Empire who…wait a minute….Brazil? Oh, silly me: it’s “religion”, just like what causes those hangings in Iran. The natives in what is now known as Latin America celebrated homosexuality until being conquered and having “religion” forced upon them.
I certainly don’t blame him, or his producers, in their caution. Long gone are the days that a BBC ‘press’ badge would confer a measure of immunity anywhere, home or abroad.
But this highlights the utter compromise of the piece from conception as anything of value, news or campaigning.
No amount of ‘we didn’t go here’ verbals will match endless imagery from where he did go, and emoted and vox-popped and tut-tutted.
It’s utterly skewed.
And serves victims of homophobia in those countries where it is most extreme, and pervasive, all the more poorly.
For shame, Mr. Fry. For shame, BBC.
Oh come on, we all know why they never protest outside a mosque, or hold Muslim’s to account for the ‘ancient beliefs’ they still hold today – it’s called Fear! Stomach churning, sphincter tightening, unmitigated Fear.
Surely no-one could expect the likes of Stephen Fry to have the courage of their convictions? Goodness sake, have a little pity! It is much easier to target a relatively tolerant religion and claim the courageous high ground.
The fact that it’s hypocrisy pure and simple escapes even Stephen’s erudition.
It is somewhat ironical that a programme promoting courage, tolerance, and enlightenment, was so cowardly, bigoted and disingenuous. It was the liberal minded not the Left which were at the forefront of humanitarian reform in this country. What an absurd fiction that it was the hate filled Left, and a riot called “Stonewall” in America. If anything the legacy of the Left in the USA was the spread of HIV as a consequence of its relentless advocacy of sexual promiscuity e.g. bathhouses. I recall that the French hero of “Queer Theory” Michel Foucault knowingly infected hundred of young men with HIV.
How come AIDS types are victims that need free bus passes for life c/o Ken Livingston?…but smokers only get mockery and fire extinguishers stuffed up their noses?
Aren`t both of them knowing self-harmers, equally guilty of their conditions?
I excuse the Castles and the blood transfusion types of course…but there`s no excuse for many of the others?
Thinking Allowed eh Laurie? …arghhh! Clear the streets!
At least smokers have paid a lot of tax toward their eventual care costs. Perhaps we need to extend the level of tax per fag?
I have just listened to the Moral Maze on R4. Concerning immigration (sorry migration ). What a sorry bunch of wet liberals. The more I hear the liberals speak the less sense they make and the less I feel we need to take them seriously. Their power is waning . Their day is ending.
There may have been a token realist on the show but I must have missed him or her.
They understand nothing of history, of what really a nation and a people are and in particular what England really is about. . Effete and degenerate is how one should categorize them but that is hardly kind in these empathetic days.
Oh and I did hear the obligatory pathetic sideswipe at the Daily Mail.
Where do they find these people.? Probably grown like the pods in the “Invasion of the Bodysnatchers” for that is exactly what they sound like.
I longed for a real person to speak and say what we in the Shires really think not what they think in that dreadful city .Summed up perhaps as” you want my land then try to take it” On the BBC? In your dreams.
Very revealing.
They didn`t like one of their Hampstead liberals telling them all that immigration is loved by their likes gathered around the BBC table-but the lower orders(the civilians that pay their taxis) find it`s destroying their lives.
Quite a crime to play the man and not the ball there at the BBC isn`t it?…like Toynbee and her private schools, like Dianne Abbott and hers etc…
Odious crap all round-it`s only decent when Melanie Phillips is on…and when Giles Fraser is on(which is an awful lot these days, after his Occupy run on Broadway a few years back)…you need to get rid of it.
And not a word about the role of Africa or Islam in driving their people into the Med…only whiteys failure to roll out the dinghies.
Crap-monocultural groupthink…so Beeb!
Political correctness rises in inverse proportion to the number of immigrants in the neighbourhood.
Perhaps we should call this “Hills’ Law”!
Remember also “Newsam’s Law” (named after the former CRE chief):
“The incidence of alleged racism in a given society will vary in direct proportion to the number of people handsomely paid to find it.”
Funny should say that – subatomic particles, too, multiply as research funding increases….
http://britain-today.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/higgs-boson-subatomic-truth-revealed.html
Hills Law, Newsams law?…I see a whole new branch of cultural sciences coming along with its “laws”.
ChrisH hypothesis…not yet a law.
If opinion and comment are freely given…well that`s because they`re not worth anything.
This deals with the BBC and Guardian-so can I bill Scott etc for £145,00 for his years bellyaching on this site?
I have knocked 50p off having heard a very good In Our Time this morning-the Common Prayer Book, before the BBC gave us the new version…The Radio Times.
But there`s no Radio in it really..where`s the OFT and Trade Description Act?…or is that merely for the little people as ever?
Every reaction creates an equal but opposite reaction
My third law of motion isn’t just about physics, you know. It also applies to politics and human interactions.
Every action creates an equal but opposite reaction
Surely there must be a Somali or two who can write and speak English and with a modicum of organisational ability?
Who knows they might even be prepared to run the BBC or The Guardian for, ooh, maybe £20 and hour, or is that too much above the ‘market rate’?
How can any normal person take a lefty seriously who has never done a really days work in their life.
If socialism is so good we are all lefty’s so miserable.
Food banks
‘This is Kelly, a trainee hairdresser whose benefits don’t stretch far enough. Kelly is going hungry’.
Dear Droids,
next time you do a weepathon from a ‘food bank’ and you walk past 95 Albanians on the take to try and find an English person who’s ‘just like us’ and you find a ‘Kelly’ who’s sixteen stone if she’s an ounce don’t try and kid us that she’s ‘going hungry’.
Grade one arses – truly they are.
The following disgusting episode doesn’t seem to be high up on the list of BBC website news… I wonder why?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2463277/Inside-Ilyas-Ashars-basement-kept-sex-slave.html
It has made it to their website this morning, under the sanitised title of “Husband guilty of cellar girl rapes” under the Most Popular Read section. No significance to the fact that an immigrant traffics a 10 year old deaf girl from Pakistan into this country to abuse and use as a slave. No, the most significant thing in the title is that he was a “husband”. See, it’s the institution of marriage that is truly evil (“Unless it’s gay marriage of course” says Dhimmi Dave).
Those damned husbands. They cause almost as much trouble in this country as “men”.
Just listened to “Costing the Earth” on R4 where the BBC worried itself about keeping the lights on in the UK in the face of the closure of many of our power stations due to an “eu directive”.
The BBC hardly mentioned the obvious solution of keeping the power stations open.
We are getting to the stage that the USSR did in the 1970’s when the propaganda is starting to sound silly.
I’m surprised that Brussels permitted R4 to blame an “eu directive”, and can only assume that Barroso and co are going soft on coal.
EU propaganda – it’s in their genes.
Even Tulip Mazumdar’s latest silly article, supposedly about women’s magazines airbrushing photos of catwalk models, includes a typical biased-BBC attack on David Cameron, resurrecting Labour claims that one of his 2010 campaign images had been airbrushed.
Leftie slurs. It’s in their DNA.
She certainly is getting to flex her creative streak beyond the continuity announcer gig at R1.
On top of her ‘World Health’ role (she is obviously gunning for a Patten/Yentob set of ‘paid quantity vs. professional quality’ strings to her bow) one notes this, as you point out, seems to encompass a snark at the UK PM.
Pretty, brain dead… on message…. the girl will go far.
I also note ‘analysis’ from the Picture Editor. Maybe Tulip could run a piece asking him about all the times the BBC sees fit to run a version of truth or accuracy in this regard that ‘fits’, when it isn’t actually true, or accurate?
For INBBC to relegate:-
“Al-Shabaab video reveals British* connections to group behind Kenya attack”
(* Islamic).
http://www.itv.com/news/2013-10-16/al-shabaab-video-reveals-new-british-connection-to-kenya-attack/?
Even this will not make UK political class (inc INBBC) move towards opposing immigration from Islamic countries:
‘Liberal’ suicidal mantras still trump action to strengthen the West’s security.
I suppose I’m gonna sound like a stuck record but a year and a bit ago I wrote about a University Challenge question that referred to the cathedral of Cordoba as a mosque. Well, unsurprisingly they were at it again on Monday’s edition.
Paxman: ‘Your bonuses are on cities … give the name that links the following. Firstly, a city of southern Spain noted for it’s great mosque and a major city of central Argentina on the edge of the pampas.’
Bangor: ‘Cordoba.’
The mosque was founded as a Visigoth church around 600. Following the muslim conquest it was divided into two parts, Christian and muslim. From 784- 1236 it was a mosque. Since 1236 it has been a cathedral.
Therefore, it has been a Catholic cathedral for far longer than it was ever a mosque. Wikipedia refers to it as the mosque/cathedral although surely cathedral/mosque would be more accurate given it’s length of time as a cathedral. One thing it most certainly isn’t is a mosque … unless of course, you’re the BBC.
That re-write of history is a revealing little insight into their mindset. In the future people will look at BBC television programmes and winch at their crass Leftist propaganda.
Anyone noticed the amount of Islamic based questions on such quiz shows? Even SWMBO noticed it. Who was Mohammed’s mother? What month is eid celebrated, What happens during Ramadan? etc etc etc.
“Who was Mohammed’s mother? ”
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Possibly worth knowing, mind.
No reason.
Many places of worship have appropriated building from earlier religions. Sometimes everything is left intact but the previous symbols replaced. Churches built on pagan temples (e.g. Temple of Antoninus and Faustina in Rome became the Roman Catholic church, known as San Lorenzo in Miranda) and Jewish synagogues (The Synagogue of El Transito in Toledo, Spain became the Nuestra Señora del Transito church after the expulsion of Jews from Spain).
A similar process occurred with mosques. The Great Synagogue of Oran in Algeria was confiscated by the Algerian government in 1975 and converted to the Abdellah Ben Salem Mosque. The Dome of the Rock mosque in Jerusalem was built over the Bet Hamikdash Jewish temple. Between the Jewish and Muslim periods it was probably a Byzantine church or monastery.
I don’t recall the BBC ever referring to any of them other than by their current use. In much more recent times the Turkish invaders of Cyprus converted many churches to mosques. I searched for some BBC references. Except for a single quote in 1974 I found nothing.
The difference with Cordoba is this. Since the early 2000s, Spanish Muslims have lobbied the Roman Catholic Church to allow them to pray in the cathedral. The Muslim campaign has been rejected on multiple occasions, by both Spanish Catholic authorities, and the Vatican. The Guardian, source for much BBC think covered the story. Cathedral may see return of Muslims The BBC is simply showing where their sympathis lie.
On the other hand can anyone imagine the Muslims giving access to Christians or Jews to a mosque that was once a synagogue or a church?
‘Ownership’ of most things now… airwaves, places of worship, etc… seem often more based by media on who kicks up the most fuss.
On occasion, this can prove #2xgood.
Certainly it goes to explaining the pervasive nature of ever demoted ‘speaker for the people’ Mehdi Hasan’s still frequent invitations to grace the BBC’s screens.
“The New York Times, and That Business At the Cathedral In Cordoba”
By Hugh Fitzgerald,
(2010).
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/fitzgerald-the-new-york-times-and-that-business-at-the-cathedral-in-cordoba.html
An emphatic little statement from Nicky Campbell this morning whilst chatting with an academic specialising in child abuse
Caution and balance and -dare I say – self-awareness thrown to the wind….
Academic : ‘you can profile offenders – you can’t proflie victims’
NC : ‘You’re quite right, every right-minded person would agree with you’
NB. NC on Jimmy Savile :
‘We thought he was a sex-less eccentric’
‘I thought he might have been gay’
It always interested me how quickly and firmly Campbell distanced himself from Savile, but I was surprised he heard nothing about Savile’s antics, when jokes about the gold encrusted pervert were widespread.
But than happy to contribute to his tribute show …
I didn’t catch this broadcast (and probably nothing would persuade me to catch it)….. but surely ‘profiling’ by these paedophiles is PRECISELY how young girls/boys are turned into victims.
Nicky Campbell enjoying a lovely, gentle, all friends together chat with the SNPs Nicola Sturgeon discussing the yes independence campaign just before 8am.
Heart warming stuff to hear such apparently great chums getting on so well.
Two shits
Beeboids, I learn, have been ‘up all night reading the Morrissey autobiography’
Give me strength. And a Licence Fee refund
BBC Breakfast News, Sport:
20/20 Women’s cricket makes the headlines ahead of the Indians achieving the 2nd highest ever run chase in a one day international against Australia.
BBC Breakfast News, Literature:
A reminder that Morrissey’s Autobiography (Penguin Classic WTF?) is on the shelves….
Sorry for the shameless plug but I wrote this this morning, I hope some of you enjoy it…
Ug, Grog and the BBC Reporter
Thanks for a great laugh to start the day Anthem !
I’ll second that comment. Thank you!
Thanks! 🙂
‘Thirded’.
I enjoyed that Anthem. But you forgot to mention that the rather reluctant Grog belonged to the extreme right-wing. I’m sure the Beeb wouldn’t have forgotten to point that out.
Mass Immigration and UK School Problems.
Have Beeboids decided to censor this from its ‘Education’ online pages?:-
“Five schools where not one pupil has English as their first language… and there are another 240 that are not far behind.
“Government figures reveal the five schools with no native English speakers.
“In 240 more at least 90 per cent of students have a different first language.
“Campaigners have warned that the array of languages risks ‘swamping’ teachers.”
By ANDREW LEVY.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2463685/Five-schools-pupil-English-language–240-far-behind.html
don t you watch the BBC … come come
its the ahem “baby boom” isn t it George 😀
… where do babies come from? 😀
… in this case?
And the liberals keep on with their suicidal bleatings. Most of them are well heeled and their children( usual caveat if they have any- so messy and demanding and interfering with “lifetsyle choices’ ) will not be at these schools. On no. They are for the proles.
Liberalism is a form of suicidal behaviour. Sorry not to be empathetic but there you are.
For once the BBC, showing exasperation on an Islamic issue
Muslim free school totally ‘dysfunctional’? UH OH!
give this a listen … 1hr 50mins
http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b03cnr0b/
Just google muslim faith school or muslim free school
and gauge the percentage of results if they are positive or negative
contrast the above with this also from the BBC, another academy, Free – Private or State, the same issues appear to arise
174 in England – Can be set up by anyone, once a business plan and demand is demonstrated
Free schools are state funded but operate outside local education authority control and can be set up by parents and community groups in England. Interventions can only come from the Department of Education and Ofsted, the local authority has no influence or control over them as they do in community schools.
This school Al-Madinah was set up with a £1.4 million grant from the Government funding agency and was expecting much more to pay for improvements and building works
A question
This can only assist an the Islamic ideology, whose primary aim is insular education and deliberate separation? from other communities?
The Association of Muslim Schools (AMS) says there will soon be at least 12 state Muslim schools.
These can of course convert to Academy status, which means that primarily in this case no longer have to follow the national curriculum?
There are some 140 other Muslim schools in the UK but most are “so small they are unlikely to become part of the state system”
There are Muslim children attending roughly 2,000 madrasas in the UK at the last report.
Freedom of ideas, thought and speech, is paramount in instilling a rounded education, ALL of these schools fail even a rudimentary level questioning in this regard.
A question
Is this a cause for concern?
Is this a cause for concern?
yes indeedi it is
militant islam in the UK is at the same stage the nazi’s were in during the 1920’s in Krautsville. We can just laugh at them, make jokes of them, say they’re just a minority of views, they’ll never get into power, fast forward 20 years and its we should have dealt with this cancer years ago
allahu akbar y’all
Keep an eye on the Jews:
“Jews are the canary in the coal mine of civilization”.
The Muslim “FREE School” in the news has not been much of a problem for the BBC to report. Basically it’s a bad Tory idea that has shown itself to be unacceptable in practice. No mention of the fact that a number of Free Schools do not need closing nor, importantly, why this Muslim school has become a law unto itself.
Supplementary.
“Derby Muslim school Al-Madinah ‘in chaos’, says Ofsted”
http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/story-19941715-detail/story.html?
…and absolutely no mention of how many state sector schools are given chance after chance after chance when they have failed miserably, and they should have been closed.
This might have been informative, so that a genuine comparison could be made between general performance of free schools with local-authority-controllled ones – rather than pointing to that one school, which has been picked up by the monitoring process put in place to trap exactly such an eventuality, as if it represents all free schools.
Woe betide anyone who tries the same trick by finding a failing state school (they do exist, despite efforts made to make it seem they don’t) and condemning the whole state school system on that basis.
Who said all free schools fail? or all state?
there shouldn t be these free schools,
there is to much opportunity, to subvert from what “should be” a strong national curriculum model.
Are you saying anything? … about that the persistent issue I point out?
“Who said all free schools fail ?”- well, you might look at Mr Tristram Hunt, shadow Education Minister who, having been against free schools not that long ago, apparently had an epiphany when appointed to his current post, and Mr Milliband decided he was actually in favour of them (but called by a different name, natch, so people wouldn’t know they were the same thing). So then Mr Hunt changed his mind just a couple of days ago, and decided that he, too liked the idea of free schools, until this report came along and he now thinks (and you can look at any press to find his views) that the free school programme is “a dangerous free-for-all”, and “an out of control ideological experiment”. So Mr ‘three-minds’ Hunt, having followed his leader’s penchant of leaping onto any passing bandwagon for purely political ends, clearly thinks (for the moment, at least) along these lines.
Free schools are a response to failures in the state school system, riven with the drive to the bottom via dumbing-down of our education system by the idealogically-driven left in this country, who cannot stand to see any individual succeed in life.
And, if your post is addressed to me individually, I have no idea what you’re talking about in your last sentence.
I`m assuming that -if a couple of Muslim teachers chose to improve their kids education by going on strike in one of their Madrassa/Free Schools-then their sulking in the carpark would constitute a Tahrir Square moment for the BBC.
Does Saudi allow their teachers to strike then.?
Do they protest the cuts until the big one comes down on their necks within 24 hours of the protest?
Who`s to say?…let alone ask?
Sure as fun the BBC won`t be asking….
A Labour MP called Tristram…and he`ll soon be lecturing us all about the privileged Tory Toffs.
What ho!
Mr Tristram Hunt – real name – the Hon Tristram Julian William Hunt (his father is Lord Hunt of Chesterton, hence his title) – educated at University College School in Hampstead, North London, part of the Eton Group of Independent Schools ((annual fees in excess of £15k) – can’t really get away with any ‘posh boy’ comments vis-a-vis Conservative ministers.
And just for good measure, his predecessor in the Labour shadow cabinet appears to have been an Old Etonian as well.
But hey – telling other people how and where their kids should be educated has always been a Labour penchant – for example – oh, just about anyone you care to choose.
Far Left BBC-NUJ extends its opposition to European politicians who oppose mass immigration:-
“Europe’s far right surfs immigration wave”
By Gavin Hewitt, Europe Editor.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24548419
“Britain: Immigration Seen as Top Problem”
by Soeren Kern.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3549/britain-immigration
“Le Pen and Wilders to form a Eurosceptic Alliance:
‘the National Front and the PVV could make the Europhile elite sing a different tune.'”
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/50710
More on the bBBC’s beloved ‘migrants’.
Councillor’s migrant ‘Machete’ Twitter post investigated
A councillor’s tweet which said a violent revenge film showed how “immigration issues” should be tackled is being investigated as a potential hate crime, police have said.
Let’s hope they take proper account of the CPS guidelines and accept that free speech is more important than worrying if some people can choose to take offence, just as Old Holborn has recently proven. As he says, You have every right to be offended, and in return, I have every right to offend you … If you don’t like what I write, don’t bother reading it, don’t follow me on twitter … – just ignore me.
Chris Froome born in Kenya to British parents….Philip Hindes born in Germany to British parents……Laura Robson moved from Australia when she was eighteen Months old…….Justine Rose came to England when he was five…..But the BBC have a “charming” piece of how these athletes are now representing this Country and now “their own”….
Christ the BBC don’t half hate the British public…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/24518547
I can see this one getting extended with suitable promo.
BBC World News
A man is claiming “climate change asylum” in New Zealand. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24561231
A Pacific Islander, Ioane Teitiota, told New Zealand’s High Court that parts of his homeland, Kiribati, were already swamped by rising sea levels.
He is attempting to appeal against an immigration department decision to refuse him asylum.
The high court has reserved a decision on his appeal.
Most of the atolls that make up Kiribati are very low-lying and at risk from rising sea levels.
Be interesting the places with quite elvated bits who get passed in favour of pitching up making this claim in, say, The Netherlands.
Actually, as I approach early-retirement, if this precedent is established, with a home next to the Wye and the EA building defences upstream to kick the flood problem down town by town, I might fancy NZ as a bolthole.
Maybe even get a slot with all the spaces left by those claiming earthquake asylum in Tewksbury, who are claiming tsunami-asylum from Eastern Japan….
Heard a bit of You and Yours, where the show was “celebrating” the fact that some old people are taking exercise, living well and learning new things like the piano.
If I were a dupe in a care home seeking the BBC to “celebrate” such stuff..I`d be very careful.
For Commissar Milburn of the last Labour tribune wants the old fleeced(if not yet sacrificed) so as to pay for immigration, mosque patrols and uni for the spawn of Russell Brands Generation Y work.
If I were managing a care home, I`d keep the BBC well out of any good news-let them bitch on about the old eating cardboard before Milburns “Haze of Dope” mobs legally mug the old to pay for their BBC licenses.
As stupid as childrens homes letting Saviles spawn in to examine the good news of police cars being fitted with taxi meters…no child left behind and all that.
Keep the BBC out of anything that you still want in ten years time-they`re utter poison to the demos!
One for the duty house trolls, which has, it appears, been up already for 18 hrs on the Newsnight FaceBook page…
http://www.facebook.com/bbcnewsnight
BBC Newsnight shared a link.
October 15
Could Iran’s phased plan defuse nuclear standoff?
Irani Arya’yi Britain is Iran’s number ONE enemy. Always was, always is & always will be. They were responsible for the Iranian Holocaust & the great famine of Persia between 1917 to 1919 resulting in the killing of over 11 million Iranians or indeed 40% of its population. The filthy Brits occupied Iran, waged unjust wars, seperated & devided Iran at least 7 times in the past 120 years, stole & looted our oil, the filthy suckers overthrew two of our greatest kings. Once in 1942 & second in 1979. The evil beastly nation of that filthy sad gray & dirty plot of land has imposed the merciless killer Ayatollahs on us in 1979 & has continued to protect please & appease it. They continue to oppose regime change in Iran for the past 34 years. The British have blood of millions of innocent Iranians on their filthy hands. The BBC is the mouthpiece of that evil filthy gready mean anti-Iranian CUNT-RY. Any Iranian working or listening to the BBC is a traitor & must be held accountable. The BBC Persian team including their current head Sadegh Saba the well known former communist terrorist must be exposed, named & shamed. The BBC is heavily bias towards the terrorist regime of the mullahs which it helped to bring to power in Iran in 1979. If Jews boycott the voice of Nazi so enough reason for us to boycott the BBC.
Free speech? Or erring a smidge on the hate-y?
Evidently the BBC thinks it deserves an airing for a while anyway.
Looking forward to seeing all your names complaining there soon, unless Irani has nailed it for you too.
Or if not, have a word next door and maybe ask if this is helping the cause of taking out the critics based on what they host.
ps: You need a heart of stone not to laugh. The story that is linked to:
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Amazing what £4Bpa can produce.
For the last few months I have on occasion popped over to the ‘new’ ‘The Editors’ site to see if any more gems from Hugs were there to savour.
Don’t know the reason for the change in URL, but beyond making it harder to find, they really haven’t had much to say. The same lame post was up for months.
But now, even this has vanished, to be replaced by but one, new, anodyne effort under:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs/the_editors/
Namely:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-editors-24427720
Not open for comments of course, but anyone care to hazard a guess as to how this qualifies as ‘a site where editors from across BBC News share our information and updates. To join in, add a comment on a story’
Good luck with that last, BTW.
Notice how the BBC have subtly attempted to remove the heat from the appalling failings and discriminations of the Muslim school and shift the focus to the Tories failing free schools – Ofsted got a mention, too. I knew they’d do this; sanitize or gloss over the yet again appalling behaviour that has been imposed by Muslims onto our culture whilst providing a smokescreen by blaming the coalition for failing educational policies.
I do blame politicians as well…. for allowing discriminatory, throwback Muslim practices to flourish unchecked in our country because of political correctness and fear of being branded racist. If this were a Christian school, it would be WWIII.
Always worth a browse around the BBC Complaints labyrinth, just to see what they think is important and what not.
For instance, top of the concern tree is, apparently..
Is your complaint addressed by the following?
Schedules – When will a programme be broadcast or repeated?(opens a pop-up window)
How can I find out when a TV programme will be broadcast? (opens a pop-up window)
Yes, indeedy… burning questions across the nation.
Of course after a burrow they can see a few others teased out…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/comp-reports/ecu/
We will have to take their word for it these were all that have been raised, addressed and… as they quaintly claim, warrant the ‘Resolved’ stamp. Or that those which are ‘Upheld’ really are the most egregious of issues.
Sadly, the answers to this will be FoI exempted. Lucky eh?
A few to play with…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/comp-reports/ecu/thegazasurfclub
‘Resolved’ on the basis that… the BBC says it is. Next.
Let’s look at a highlighted one:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaint/watchdogmiliband091013/
Golly, what do you know…:
‘Energy pricing has been a running theme from the start of this series of Watchdog, and Ed Miliband’s appearance on the programme was entirely justified.’
So there.
Argument like that, is it any wonder they are running 110% ‘no case to answer’ rates?
Always good value.
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/dough-balls.html
It’s like Monopoly, with all the money, and the Get out of Jail free cards.
In another post one learns of the career of a Patten Jnr. gaining well from certain associations some may only dream of.
Just listening to Drive on 5L and there is some Labour Wallah (didn’t catch his name) griping on about removing the ‘ideology’ from education. Can you bloody well believe that, Labour preaching about Ideology, it really takes the biscuit. What was all that mass immigration about then? Secondly the failing school in question he was referring to was an Islamic school so hardly representative of a proper British school.