478 Responses to WEEKEND OPEN THREAD…

  1. taffman says:

    “The charity NSPCC said the announcement was a “welcome step” towards minimising suffering.”
    Just where were they when needed at Rotherham etc ?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37333273

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    • chrisH says:

      Always feel that the Labour Partys Home Affairs Committee only care when its childrens homes in Rotherham or Camden or Islington.
      About the only homes that Labour wants to peep into involve small children and whether their lunch boxes contain enough quorn…and the Child Catcher follows in her Shoesmith Van.
      No-=keep Labour out of your homes,…never ends well.

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  2. Beltane says:

    Great to see how the Beeb generate and promote their own news.
    Marr, 8.30 am, an overweight and previously unknown spokesperson for the NHS lobs a well-aimed and polished spanner into future plans, telling us that a 7-day service is suddenly unaffordable. Followed by an aspiring candidate for the leadership of the Labour Party (looking remarkably like the prison governor in Shawshank)and who evidently sees himself as a reincarnation of Aneurin Bevan. He continues with the well used ‘Brexit Disaster’ theme.
    6 o’clock news with Mishal. Leads off with NHS Disaster theme, an item created from no news and prolonged artificially in order to embarrass legally elected government.
    Followed by Len McClusky giving a balanced and positive view of Brexit from Brighton.
    Well that took over 10 minutes, add a bit of anti-Trump by suggesting that he’s responsible for Hillary’s ill-health…and so to the sport.
    M Farah wins Great Northern Run. No mention of graceful and softly-spoken wife’s behavior at airport post-Olympics, sorry no time. Not important anyway.

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    • chrisH says:

      Yep Beltane.
      Had near on an hour of Radio 4 a few minutes ago.
      1. No, the BBC did NOT overdo the Olympics
      2. Yes, the interviews with the sportmen and women who won were original fascinating and in the national interest to mull over.
      3. No Claire Baldings air miles are NOT relevant to the Amazon rainforests disappearing-she wanted to clean the dogs bowl, so such talent can fly from Rio twice over in a week..it`s what they do-and we do NOT question this.
      4. No, we did not show enough of those massive street demos against the Referendum result last week-there were millions and we only showed seven in Cambridge…our bad, must better reflect the mass hopes of overturning the proles.
      5. Richard Nevile is a great loss-and Yoko even sang a song for him-and that paedo campaign, Ruperts erections in the school playground-well, wotcha gonna do?
      6. David Jenkins was the Archbishop we ought to have had, he hated Thath you know.
      Won`t go on-suffice to say that it was an hour of relentless liberal hokum…and all pushing the Good Rebellion and thwarting the plebs.
      Turn their life support machine off…the BBC is brain dead from the stem down.

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  3. G says:

    Coming to a Town or City near you soon………….
    http://newobserveronline.com/austria-11158-invader-arrests-6-months/

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  4. Winstons Homburg says:

    Some recent posts noted the trouble and crime that goes hand in hand each year during the Notting Hill Carnival. This led to some comparisons with a variety of events which are well attended, though mainly by indigenous white people with few police in attendance and virtually trouble free, throughout the country.

    One such event is the now annual Morecambe Vintage Festival (Friday, 2nd September – Sunday, 4th September). As i know the area well (originally from Lancaster) it delights me that it attracted over 30,000 over the course of the weekend. Once again it was a great success as folks interested in all forms of vintage indulged themselves in clothes, music, cars, buses, lorries, bikes among other things from the 1920 – 1990s period.

    Organiser of this event is Morecambe born Wayne Hemmingway MBE – known for selling and designing clothes. He obviously has an interest in nostalgia and so his views on Brexit are quite interesting to read as i discovered on his blog from the House of Hemmingway website. Titled “Leaving the EU feels like a death in the family.” this is what he penned:

    “Three days after the announcement of the EU Referendum result I still feel totally and utterly down. The only other time in my life that I have felt like this was when my dear mum died. However I was prepared for that, I had had time to say goodbye and I knew what to blame; the cigarette industry that had spent many unchallenged decades promoting the glamour (and at one stage the health benefits) of its products.

    Leaving the EU feels like a death in the family but one with no sign of closure and one that will have negative impact on generations to come. I need to empty my head in order to start to make sense of it, need to get the blame out of my system and need to get some hope and purpose back into my thinking. So for what it’s worth here is my “head emptying”

    The Damage

    The damage to the United Kingdom is surely irreversible. I love the Scots and it will be really sad to see them go. But should they prosper outside the UK and in the EU then it maybe a pointer for the countries that remain in the UK to in some way put things right for generations after I am long dead.

    A few weeks ago I presented a piece for the BBC about the 20th anniversary of the IRA bomb in Manchester City Centre (in which a shop of my former brand Red or Dead was destroyed) and was convinced that this felt like something that could never happen again .But there has to be a chance of a return to sectarian violence in Northern Ireland as the clamour to be European like their Republic of Ireland neighbours starts to come to the fore over the next weeks and months and years. The Good Friday agreement is surely under threat.

    From the sixties onwards we have seen British creativity through music, youth-culture, art, film, TV and design gradually build a new brand identity for Britain, thankfully becoming more important in the eyes of the world than royalty, pomp and circumstance. The creative industries which I am proud to be part of has helped Britain be regarded as an outward thinking, modern, creative, progressive and diverse place. This has been amazing for inward investment and visitor numbers. The UK has just voted itself backwards and the brand damage will have far reaching repercussions. We may just be the most laughed at and hated nation now, taking over that mantle from Trump America. (ISIS will love the division as well)

    The collateral damage to our European neighbours could be seismic. The right wing “take back control” cries of Marie le Pen in France, Gert Wilders in the Netherlands and the Polish Law and Justice party is scary indeed. And then there is the very scary Vladimir Putin who must love all this discord and what will be a weaker EU. We had created 70 years of co-operation and peace. Conflict had become co-operation.

    The damage to trust between young and old, between cities dwellers and those small towns and villages, between our wonderfully diverse multi-cultural communities will take a lot of healing. We are more divided than together now.

    Who and what is to blame?

    The largest blame must lay with the debilitating and growing inequality that British government over the past couple of decades have allowed to happen. When people see the rich getting richer, while their lives get harder, then nihilism sets in and hope is lost, leading to irrational decisions like we have just witnessed. Statistics show that the gap between rich and poor has continued to become even more extreme in the UK and it is no surprise that the millions who have been and are being left behind grasp at straws and start to believe that migration is to blame. We have had a constant stream of “us and them stories” of fat cat / banker pay, to low wage exploitation and the insecurity of short term contracts in retailers’ warehouses, to people selling national retail institutions for a £1, pocketing hundreds of millions whilst the pensions of workers are all but destroyed.

    We have failed to educate people about politics (witness the largest Google search on the day of the result being “What is the EU?”) and about where to find the truth and balanced views rather than believe in what they read from a media trying to save its declining circulations.

    Many British people have lost so much of their basic understanding of basic economics. We used to be a nation of shopkeepers (and I can tell you how much you learn from owning a small shop) but unlike countries like Germany we have surrendered this to the likes of Tesco and Asda. Add to that the fact that we don’t make and manufacture much anymore, we have become a service economy that has lost so much understanding of how money is earned. This has opened the door for untruths.

    The right wing gutter press have been totally irresponsible reporting on” £350 million a week being redirected to the NHS “, it won’t happen. As won’t the restoration of North Sea Fisheries or the much heralded Turkish invasion. Lies, lies and damn lies.

    Lack of affordable housing, allowing greedy large scale house-builders to call the tune, wrecking the planning system, the right to buy and lack of private landlord rent controls have all led to people being desperate and in desperate situations humans can make wrong decisions. People felt they had nothing to lose.

    The lack of investment in regional towns leading to a two speed economy has come home to roost.

    The sad thing is that like in the US, where an obscenely rich Donald Trump is appealing to the disenfranchised we have rich old Etonians vying to lead our country on the premise that they are “men of the people”. (How ironic that on the day of the result Trump was visiting Scotland) We have to remember that Boris Johnson and Michael Gove were not voted in by the public to be Prime Minister. We have that disgusting man, Nigel Farage, who has failed to be elected seven times, being able to act like the leader of a country and announce that the UK is Independent and that his UK Independence Party has achieved its ultimate goal .It’s like a worst nightmare for so many of us, waking up in UKIP Britain, except that it has happened, and we can’t turn over and go back to sleep.

    Oh, yes and Cameron and his cronies. What a bloody disaster of a Prime Minister (surely the worst ever?). I have always been taught not to wash your dirty linen in public. The Tory parties’ infighting over Europe has led to this and the cocky couple of Cameron and Osborne like many entitled people, felt that they would get their own way.

    What Next?

    We can’t sit and take it. We have to get more political and surely we need a new political party. I like Jeanette Winterson’s idea of an Equality Party http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/we-need-to-build-a-new-left-labour-means-nothing-jeanette-winterson

    London has been given a bloody nose by towns and rural areas that have been left behind by the financial juggernaut that is the capital city. Lessons must be learnt from this. We must not sneer at those that voted “leave” but rather address their anger and fears.

    Martin Luther King said “A riot is the language of the unheard”. We have just witnessed a form of a “riot of the unheard” and at the same time as making sure that the unheard are heard we have to make sure that we don’t become the new unheard.

    Likewise there is no point in sneering at the demographic with lower educational achievements that formed a substantial part of the “Leave” vote. We need to address a failure in education and realise that politics and economics do matter and should be a much stronger part of the curriculum.

    As the reality of this mistake hits those that have voted for it, we must not say “I told you so” but work towards mitigating the damage and trying to claw back some of what we have lost. We must harness “Regrexit” (the tens of thousands that regret voting “Leave”). We can mitigate some of the damage by remaining close to the EU in many ways ( but will have to live with the fact that we will have a much much reduced say in the politics or economics of a continent that we do remain part of.

    We must hold this government to account for removing public funds for opposition parties, for demeaning the Trade Unions, for their attack on tax credits, for allowing businesses to get away without paying their tax dues, for being in the pockets of the large house-builders, for closing libraries, for their attacks on the NHS,and their attacks on the climate lobby. What an absolute disaster. Is there a way of forcing a general election? And if so can a “coalition of common sense” (including all the feuding elements of Labour, the Liberals, SNP, The Green Party and Plaid Cymru) work together to heal things, start to address inequality make sense of all of this?

    The younger generations must get involved in politics and explain the positives of multi-culturalism. (The leave vote was strongest in places without migrants). Those with a lifetime ahead of them must wrestle back the power from those not long for this world.

    And we have to ask ourselves are we happy with our beloved BBC being so PC and so careful to not be seen to be “metropolitan” that they dumb down so much as to not offer the intelligent side of the argument. The BBC seems to giving a disproportioned voice to those that voted “Leave”. Did we hear so much from the marginalised that the marginalised view became the mainstream?

    Those of us that understand the positive impact of migration to the UK must “hug” the migrants.

    We must remember that 48% is a very large proportion. Democracy may have failed us in the short term but we have to find a way to mitigate this disaster.

    Finally let’s start a movement that the 48% can get behind. Maybe it can be I REMAIN a European.”
    Wayne Hemingway – 26.06.16

    It seems Wayne thinks multi-culturalism is a wonderful idea and that the BBC gives those that voted “leave” a disproportional voice. Perhaps the Doc Marten boots that helped set him on a successful clothing/design career have been in contact with his head a tad too much?

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    • Winstons Homburg says:

      In the above piece Wayne articulated:

      “We have failed to educate people about politics (witness the largest Google search on the day of the result being “What is the EU?”) and about where to find the truth and balanced views rather than believe in what they read from a media trying to save its declining circulations”.

      Infact Wayne, we’ve failed to educate people the truth about Islam and the damage multi-culturalism brings. Instead many believe what they are told by the media that they mean no harm, both are fantastic and should be warmly embraced.

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    • chrisH says:

      What is WRONG with these people?
      Is it all because they seek to being with their tribe?
      To show that they`re virtuous and progressive to their fellow travellers?
      Does it allow them all to belittle their fellow countrymen and women, so they get the moral high horses to sit on?
      It`s as if we never existed before 1973…that we had no empire, no commonwealth, no wars won, no World Cups, no pop music, art or poetry, no bible Shakespeare…need I go on?
      They really are emotional misfits and frankly very weird.
      As if they`ve never had to think of a life outside Junckers security blanket-or had to make a living, anywhere from outside Bruseels.
      Get a grip you lot.
      The Euro will be gone in a few years time and the whole bloody “project” will wither implode or create riots and troubles we`ve not seen before since the thirties in Europe.
      All we did was force a fire door out of it all…yet these liberal oafs prefer for us to burn to death, just so they can feel the righteous glow.
      Enough already-you lost you dunmmies…now “get over it” as you`d say…
      Dare we bring in grammar schools now to add to the pain?…yes, I think we do!

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    • Dave S says:

      Childish rubbish. A complete lack of historical knowledge and a weird belief that the Britain pre him was of no account.That the period from Elizabeth 1 to 1914 say produced nobody and nothing of note. That is the trouble with these snowflakes. Me me me and more me.
      Add to that the need to have a big daddy in Brussels taking care of him .
      Apart from that he seems to be right on message with his current beloved BBC thinking.
      Whilst driving back from work I heard that feedback show. It is pointless as the BBC is never really at fault.
      The we have the Archers the raison d’etre for which is beyond the comprehension of any rational living creature even my cat.
      Later I switched on and saw some news show on the BBC channel. All lefties and all predictable including somebody from the remains of the Independent. Now I remember that rag after 9/11. One writer in particular and I think it was a female novelist of some renown wrote a diatribe blaming the US for the attack . An appalling piece that caused many of us deep offence .
      A newspaper deservedly now out of print.
      Trump got a mention as ‘appalling’ or some such cheap jibe .
      Just another useless day in the BBC’s hopefully swift decline into irrelevance.

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  5. Steve Jones says:

    The Democrats in the US will be dreading the debates between the candidates in the run up to the US presidential election. Hillary took at least one unexpected break during the primary debates. The discomfort of the show’s hosts was a joy to watch as they desperately tried to gloss over their favoured candidate’s protracted absence.
    I think it will be impossible for the Democrats to wriggle out of these debates but expect them to try every trick in the book to either get them cancelled or curtailed. Wonder if the BBC will air the debates in full?

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    • Lobster says:

      I hear that she has been photographed after being treated in hospital.

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    • chrisH says:

      Will she take advertising space on the bottom of her shoes, seeing as she`s not far from pegging out?
      Vote Trump FFS!…she`s a money grabbing bint, so worth an offer….

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      I have to confess that up until now I’ve viewed the stories about Hillary’s ill health as somewhat overblown, though it’s been typical that no one in the MSM has seen fit to delve very far. Suddenly these claims cannot be dismissed, but I expect the BBC to attempt just that. In an article on the Washington Post the absurd excuses and denial coming from her supporters were something to behold.

      Scott Adams: “The Race for President is (Probably) Over”
      http://blog.dilbert.com/?utm_source=dilbert.com&utm_medium=site&utm_campaign=brand-engagement&utm_content=navigation

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      • Dave S says:

        If Hilary has had a stroke in the last year or so than I feel sorry for her. Even a mild stroke is hard on the brain as it seeks to rebuild damaged pathways.
        Sometimes the brain forces a near shutdown of the bodily functions while it gets to work. There is no way she should be standing and I cannot see why she is other than pure ambition.
        She should quit now if she has any sense.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Oh, hang on. According to the BBC now, “Hillary Clinton Clinton diagnosed with pneumonia”.

        Diagnosed on Friday, apparently. But it takes that long to tell us? I can’t say I’m convinced, when they’d surely have wanted this story put to bed ASAP.

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        • neilw says:

          If she was diagnosed with pneumonia 2 days ago she would not be out and about that’s for sure, she would likely be laid up in a hospital bed being administered IV antibiotics. Pneumonia isn’t a bad cold, it’s a potentially life-threatening bacterial infection, especially serious in the elderly.

          I suppose the pneumonia ‘diagnosis’ is an attempt to cover today’s collapse plus the repeated coughing fits. However, the coughing fits have been going on for weeks, if not months, so the docs over there must be a bit slow don’t you think? Not only that, but pneumonia doesn’t cover the regular falls, ‘odd’ behaviour, and and having to be kept upright by her aides!

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        • Jump says:

          I know five American full professors, in History and Eng. Lit., well enough to have been told their voting intentions. (This in the context of bewildered questions about Brexit.) None is voting for Trump (obvs.). Three will vote for HRC ‘holding my nose’ / ‘with a peg over my nose’ / ‘faute de mieux’. So far, so predictable. But the other two, both women, simply refuse to vote for Clinton in any circumstances. If the GOP had nominated a less divisive figure, they’d have long since walked the election.

          But they didn’t. Besides, what if she’s a bit poorly?

          Konstantin Chernenko (1911 – 1985) was already visibly terminally ill when he was appointed the de facto head of the Soviet Union in February 1984.

          Kim Il-sung (1914 – 1994) has served with commendably quiet diligence as the Eternal President of the Republic of North Korea since September 1998.

          And the Governor of Missouri, Mel Carnahan (1934 – 2000), was elected to the US Senate three weeks after he’d died in a plane crash.

          No doubt Tim Kaine might have something to say on the matter, but I wouldn’t put presidency by ouija board past her.

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        • Guest Who says:

          “Good evening. And here is the ‘news’ according to the BBC, er, now…” seems about their speed.

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        • Steve Jones says:

          Great work from the Clinton campaign in coming up with that excuse. Yet another little thread in the web of lies that will eventually be Hillary’s downfall. As Hillary disintegrates in front of our eyes the whole thing is going to become a macabre spectacle of the unelectable propped up (literally) by the unaccountable.

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      I wonder if she’ll wear an earpiece like she did for their last confrontation?

      If so, Trump should ask her (should she win) if she’ll be wearing one in the Oval Office and if so who’ll be directing her through it then? Goldman Sachs? The Chinese? The Saudis? The Israelis? Bill?

      This ill health issue could be the end of her campaign, she actually collapsed just before they could get her into that car. Can you imagine the scale of the negative effect if that had happened whilst she was attending the memorial ceremony itself? Where her aides and body guards couldn’t try to hide it from view.

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  6. Roland Deschain says:

    Got the News at Ten on now, but it sounds more like a huge plug for The Archers I’m listening to.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Playing to their strengths. Exceeding every detail of the Hajj even. But only just.

      The Ahmeds can surely not be far off.

      One imagines the first court case will be fun.

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  7. Sluff says:

    A bit late but reference the various posts about Last Night of the Proms.
    Amidst all the comments about the EU flags etc., did anyone else notice that after the Fantasia on British Sea Songs there was no subsequent cutting to the crowd in Scotland or Wales. Only Hyde Park and the Belfast location were shown during the Elgar and Parry. I wonder why?

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  8. taffman says:

    I think Clinton is finished.

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    • Guest Who says:

      So long as her nose survives, she can still be a sleeper candidate.

      Anything else would be bananas.

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  9. taffman says:

    “Manual Valls said about 15,000 people were being monitored for radicalisation as the country continues its drive against jihadist militants.”
    That’s quite a number to start worrying about because it brings into question just how many that they don’t know about.
    Trojan horse anyone ?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37334836

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