Israel to Abbas: No, Jesus was not a Palestinian
A happy New Year to one and all and may this site become redundant as soon as possible….though I somehow doubt it will as the BBC starts off as it no doubt means to go on…with Giles Fraser on Thought for the Day telling us Christ wasn’t a Christian [surely the first one] …he’ll tell us next that Muhammed wasn’t a Muslim…won’t he?…but Jesus was, however, a ‘Palestinian’. Fraser naturally trying to link Jesus to ‘Palestinians‘ today…which is a dodgy sleight of hand as of course ‘Palestinian’ is a politicised term whose meaning goes far beyond mere existence in a territory….one which Jews might want to call Judea not Palestine…or even ‘Israel’, an ancient name….has Fraser never heard of the ‘Tribes of Israel’? It is a narrative used by Muslims, along with the ‘Muslim Jesus’ phrase, to hijack Jesus and make out the Jews are once again ‘killing Jesus’ or rather his descendants…the Palestinians…lol. Good of the not so reverend Giles Fraser to adopt what is a anti-Christian, anti-Jewish Muslim narrative.
I’m sure you can spot plenty more BBC nonsense as they revise the past in order to write the future….list it all here….
‘So, expensively maintained overseas BBC correspondent on the spot, filmed against a picturesque exotic backdrop, is there any more detail you can add to this story?’
‘No, but I will happily reiterate, editorialise, emphasise the agreed narrative, speculate and bluster for another few minutes of airtime…’
BBC News Channel begins the new year as it presumably means to go on, and on….
Congrats Al Beeba …
You managed to replace your gorgeous Singapore presenter with a total mong who I refuse to have in my house …
She is about as welcome as fresh catshit …
PC is really about to eat itself …
Incidentally the ugly one has to advance her own auto-script with something that looks suspiciously like a huge lego block …
How cheapskate can you get?
Exotic backdrop – how about Mexican weather reports
Aussie has been enjoying Mexican weather reports
http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/31010-Aussie-has-been-enjoying-Mexican-weather-reports.html
Happy New Year to all.
As Germany’s ironboot comes down ….
Germany starts enforcing hate speech law {BBC.co.uk}
…. Will Theresa May’ s speech on immigration in 2015 be seen as hate speech? May said with mass immigration a cohesive society was NOT possible.
Is this far right hate speech?
Will the BBC report in 2015 by Gavin Hewitt e classed as fake?
Welcome to 2018 with a touch if 1984.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42510868
Mark,
Thanks for the link. The most hilarious bit in the report is when it mentions that there are some concerns in Germany that this law could lead to inadvertent censorship and consequent loss of freedom of speech. The whole point of this law is so obviously to pass control of the internet to the German government so they can decide what the people should and shouldn’t know and what the people should and shouldn’t be allowed to say. I have no doubt that the new law will quickly be hailed a great success, that Muslims feel a great weight has been removed from their shoulders and are now anxious to integrate so completely justifying Mad Merkels open door policy. Additionally the number of rapes and other crimes committed by migrants will dramatically drop, well at least the number reported by the MSM will as there will be fewer and fewer channels by which the truth can be told to the people, so they need not have any concerns that their lies, suppressions and distortions will ever be found out..
The liberal left right across the West will applaud Merkel’s triumph and clamour for their governments to follow suite. Meanwhile millions of sheep will probably breath a sigh of relief as they can now watch their soaps , football and other soporifics without being bothered by the increasingly grim truth about the way that their way of life being stolen from them whilst they are sleeping.
Josef Goebbels would have been SO envious!
If the bbc really believe in liberty is hearing someone you don’t want to hear they would be reporting on this with references to Orwell. Instead they are deploying an omission technique … keep the story low below radar and without historical context.
Well worth reading.
Why The Donald is hated with such vehemence
Where all the infernal outrage is fixated is on the number 1 subject — immigration, borders.
Mass-immigration from poor to rich, third world to first world, black to white is the central element of a secular belief of redemption that was still finding an articulated expression up until a few decades ago in Marxism.
The Marxist theory is actually no longer quoted, and “scientific” socialism has in the various left-wing radical projects sunken down into social-utopian delirium.
The contrast between rich — “exploiting” — and poor — “exploited” — countries is the contemporary from of class warfare that corresponds with the condition of the development of productive forces in a globalized economy.
As a revolutionary subject, the masses of “poor” whose revolution consists of them streaming into the countries of the “rich” are to demand “participation” or take revenge for historical injustice. They still aren’t such a completely emancipated subject, though. They still need leadership by means of the avant garde of an elitist white leftist.
..Long-term goal is still much like that of communism. Those — still — prospering societies are to be denied the right of protecting their wealth as their own. The principle of everything belongs to everyone and everyone has a right to everything becomes enforced with the massive immigration of poverty as the greatest social-ethical doctrine.
http://www.pi-news.org/2017/02/25/djt-the-counterrevolutionary/
Read on.
The devil is in the details – just who gets to decide what is ‘hate’ speech and what is free speech? That’s a pretty powerful weapon to put in the hands of any State apparatchik, or even a group of them.
Can we be sure that the adjudicators of that are :
a. Competent?
b. Planning to act in good faith?
c. Intending to act on behalf of the majority of their citizens as opposed to fawning to SJW-type activists?
As the BBC demonstrates in most areas where it holds sway, the answer is a resounding No.
DT – Very worrying development indeed. I think what we are finally witnessing is the final death knell of democracy and freedom in Europe. We saw how last year the German state suppressed information about the mass sex attacks at Cologne. The French Government also suppressed details about what went on at the Bataclan attacks in 2015 and of course good old Sweden – well what can you say about that country these days.
I expect though in some ways the German state has been forced to bring these information suppression plans forward due to the brexit vote (which went the “wrong” way) and the fact that Poland and Hungary are not towing the EU line on the importation of “enrichment units” Additionally people like the Donald (rather inconveniently) still have some regard for the truth and are not afraid to use social media to let Europeans know what our liberal elite do not want us to hear. Hence the lying BBC etc trying to smear Trump with ever more desperate “fake news” accusations.
I expect it will not be too long before the UK government takes the same approach to news management with regard to social media. They have allowed a situation to occour where followers of the “prophet” are constantly portrayed as victims of violence despite the fact that in reality the truth is the polar opposite of this. It does not take a brain surgeon to work out that there are plenty of liberal elite Beria wannabees such as Rudd or Alison Saunders who cannot wait to start playing God and inflict their own jaundiced and unwholesome vision of reality and control upon the rest of us.
Who knows when this will happen but I expect they are still awaiting for the “far right” to give them the excuse they want to introduce this legislation. What is for sure is that it may well be a long wait – But hey Amber instead of waiting for the train that may never come why dont you just introduce it anyway – You know you want to?
As Churchill said the “The lamps are going out all over Europe” and this time it is the liberal elite that are putting them out. as things appear at the moment we are being pushed back to the dark ages – We certainly do have a lot to thank the liberal elite for.
Completely agree Oak. We are living in dangerous times.
Fake news the elite media recognizes
1. Gang rapes of tens of thousands of young British girls by Pakistani Muslims. Aka as Grooming – Definitely fake.
2. Rapes and molestation of German girls by Muslim illegal migrants – Fake. Fake.
3. Sweden – Well what can you say about this female/Feminist run country.
The Hate speech law is already taking effect
Worth keeping eye
http://www.pi-news.net/
Use Chrome to get automatic translation to English
http://www.pi-news.net/2018/01/merkels-bilanz-verheerend/
A minor footnote to the joke that Sweden has become: I watched a programme of Douglas Murray debating with some Swedish libtard MP. She sanctimoniously asserted that ‘there is no evidence’ of a correlation between the skyrocketing occurrence of rape with ethnicity / religion. To which Murray pointed out that that’s because the authorities have stopped (banned) recording cases of sexual abuse by race / religion.
Duh.
Except it wasn’t Churchill who said that, it was British Foreign Secretary Sir Edward Grey.
Rick,
Whether or not the censors have the qualifications to do the job , nor whether they have the best of intentions, are not the issues. The issue is that in a fully functioning democracy the government does not have the right to stop its citizens from communicating as they wish unless they at breaking some well founded law e.g. Encouraging terrorism. Making up some totally unnecessary Hate Speech Law and then using it to prosecute people is just an excuse for the government to control its people.
By the way I am sure that most of the so called Hate Speech is merely dissent from the governments enforced mass migration policy. If having your culture and your homeland taken from you by people you never invited and were never even consulted about, doesn’t justify dissent I don’t know what does.
Germany, France, Sweden will try to censor the Internet, to stop people indicting the political/media elite for grand treason, but they will fail.
Even the truly repressive totalitarian USSR failed to stop Samizdata. How can the German government stop the Dark side of the web. They can go the way of the USSR, but all that will mean is back to 1940s.
Merkel failingMerkel’s record: devastating!
http://www.pi-news.net/2018/01/merkels-bilanz-verheerend/
The scorn of the bloody rhombus
http://www.pi-news.net/2017/12/der-hohn-der-blutigen-raute/
And there is a significant factor in common with all of those three countries: their patrician elites have thrown open the borders to savages and are now trying to bury the evidence and silence dissent.
We must not allow the same to happen here – however much totalitarians like Rudd, May and their supporters might wish it.
Unlike in the USA, the European political elite rest content that they hold a monopoly in the availability and use of deadly force.
This is the reason that the Founding Fathers of America made the 2nd Amendment. That it be truly independent, and not be regulated or funded as a militia, as that would make it just another arm of the government.
Agreed. Another difference is that the USA has long had a relatively open policy toward broadcasting and communications. While it’s true that giant corporations gained a monopoly of TV , the US had independent ‘chat radio’ which allowed the Right a voice when the mainstream media had been subverted by the Left. Then came the Internet, of course…
As a consequence, it’s less of a shock to the US establishment when they hear opposing points of view. In comparison, the sense of outrage when the pseudo-priestly caste of journalists, broadcasters and bien pensant politicians get confronted by we common folk with our nasty ‘populist’ views is particularly enjoyable!
GCooper: pseudo-priestly caste of journalists, broadcasters and bien pensant politicians
Brilliant. I can picture these priests worshiping at the altar, while the huddled masses wait for their sacrament of crust and watered down wine.
@Mark “Germany starts enforcing hate speech law”
well Trump just tweeted
So Germany is heading in the same direction ?
Congo have shut down internet to stop protests. I look forward to pen and paper posts to this site soon. En Marche! Forward! Enough is enough!
For the Many (restrictions), Not the Few (freedoms).
And more
By MICHAEL STÜRZENBERGER | Happy New Year, welcome DDR 2.0! Mass censorship law has been in effect since midnight, and it immediately caught Deputy leader AfD leader Beatrix von Storch.
She responded to an Arabic-language tweet from the Cologne police and asked whether the police would “placate the barbarian, Muslim, gang raping barbarian hordes”.
Twitter initially blocked her for 12 hours and deleted her entry, which contravened the “hate content” rules because he had “promoted”, “threatened” or “harassed” violence against minorities.
Von Storch published the incident shortly after midnight on their Facebook page , which has so far been shared over a thousand times and commented just under 600 times. She herself says:
Happy New Year! In a free country !! In which every barbarian may call barbarians. Even if it is Muslims. (I mean, DIE, against which we now set up protective tents for German women because the state can no longer guarantee security outside of the tents because of THAT barbarian.)
http://www.pi-news.net/2018/01/beatrix-von-storch-auf-twitter-gesperrt/
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There’s one book that’s full of hate-speech against Christians, Jews, gays, women, infidels, non-believers, apostates, polytheists and more.
I trust the German authorities will soon be banning the Koran.
I will happy donate a box of matches.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/quran-hate.aspx
Yup.
Koran for the theory, and Hadiths for practical implementation.
Couldn’t help but notice the BBC letting on that it was the Iranian students at Tehran University who were leading the protests against the Ayatollahs.
Now I know our own Millennial generation of students won’t remember the events of 1979 – and I doubt they are taught about it – but this turn of events ought to give some youngsters who are meerily cheering on the Corbinite bandwagon cause for thought.
Beware those benign-sounding bearded old geezers and their naive young supporters.
AISI
Exactly – I wonder how many of those welcoming Khomeini lived to see 1980?
P.S. Happy New Year everybody !!
The consequences of not taking note of history regarding Iran can be seen by this article. If we don’t take accept that there is a right to free speech we are only a few steps away from this: https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/218683/executed-waging-war-allah-dr-majid-rafizadeh
“According to local human rights groups and the Iran Human Rights Documentation Center, the charges against the 32-year-old poet, Hashem Shabaani Nejad, were listed as “waging war on God,” being an “enemy of God,” spreading “corruption on earth,” and threatening “national security.” He was arrested in early 2011 and spent his time in prison until his order of execution came.”
I have an indirect experience of this when at FE college. The father of one of my Iranian friends worked as an architect in Iran before the revolution. They got a tip off from an official that he was about to be arrested and managed to escape in time. (a real refugee). His crime was designing a private home for the Shah considered as making war on God. Coming to a country near you if nobody wakes up.
Not a very powerful God if it can’t exact revenge itself?
Yes we have seen UK students marching & chanting
.. for the implementation of the Ayatollah Corbyn-Zany regime and his Magic Money Tree
The analogy will be lost on our brainwashed snowflakes, who will vote for Corbyn in multitudes.
I’m at the point where I hope they do, and the UK gets a Corbynista government.
That will be the best and fastest mass education for the snowflakes that socialism inevitably destroys wealth rather than creating it, and the more radical the socialism, the quicker the disaster happens and deeper the hole created.
As a dose of reality, it could hardly be bettered. And that’s what the snowflakes need, more than anything.
I caught (and actually managed to endure) about fifteen minutes of an R4 round-up of the year, last night. The two hacks involved included Iain Martin, who has contributed so much to the decline of the Daily Telegraph into bland irrelevance, and a female journalist whose accent suggested either she may not have been a native of these islands, or was raised in a deeply enriched area, though that didn’t appear to inhibit her from delivering a suitably metric tonne of Guardianista received wisdom that would have gone down a treat at the Islington dinner rallies she no doubt relishes.
Yes, they all agreed (especially the hapless Jonny Dymond, who presented the show): Trump is a dangerous moron who colluded with the Russians to steal the US election, Brexit is a tragedy (the hackette insisted we need a re-run so that we can conform to her ill-informed opinions), the Internet is A Bad Thing and must be regulated by government as it stops people of low intellect (that would be us, fellow BBBCers) listening to the ‘balanced’, ‘professional’ lies and propaganda spouted by the likes of Dymond, Martin and whoever this vain and deeply unintelligent woman was.
And on they went, one ‘liberal’ cliche following another, like circus elephants, smugly self-assured that they know best and that they alone should be allowed to hold and disseminate opinions.
This was the authentic voice of the BBC ‘elite’ and it’s at times like these that I think the Russians had the right idea when they had their revolution in 1917. All we need is a wall and a few rounds… as the song says: ‘they’d none of them be missed’.
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G
Dymond is the beeboid who got caught taking cannabis on an aircraft going to London and said he had bought it in a club whilst drunk. He kept his al Beeb job. I don’t take drugs. If I got caught in the same circumstances I’d have been sacked.
Toady had a half hour section of beeboids talking about the image of Blighty now that we only have one full year left in their EU organisation. Apparently we have lost our status and influence. A felt like crying with the bitter disappointment of not being seen so positively by the EU countries. I’m guessing it has more to do with the absence of payments from the British taxpayers’ cheque book .
The term ‘populism ‘ is used by those in the bubble as abuse for voters who don’t fall into the approved category which I suppose is Called ‘unpopulism’.
Last night purdy disagreed with my view that my home town – London – isn’t too safe.since that time 17 year old boy has been stabbed to death. That brought, accounting to albeeb, 19 teenagers stabbed to death in London last year. That works out at one every 2 and a half weeks.
FE2 – Dymond is also the beeboid who had his own little stand up routine regularly on the “World at One” in any unfunny attempt at mocking the recently elected POTUS complete with smart arse comments and stupid voices.
This was really before anyone knew much about him as President. I suppose as the buzzfeed/pissgate Presidential takedown failed Aunty felt the need to keep the left focusing all its ire on the democratically elected President as they maneuvered the next anti Trump campaign into position. This of course would enable them to say “I told you so” as his Presidency collapsed. HA HA – Pity it didnt
Still all unfunny and lightweight Johnny needed to know is that Aunty doesnt like him.
fedup2
I am sure Purdy may be interested in this ………………….
“Four young men die in London New Year stabbings”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-42534127
Taff ,
Ha thanks Taff I just saw it. I’m just over exaggerating . Only one dead teenager in 2018 so far.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/01/four-young-men-killed-in-london-new-year-stabbings?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
BBC reporting that the number of Black youths being the victims of stabbings is disproportionate. They don’t however tell us the ethnicity of those doing the stabbings….funny that.
Black Community leaders are complaining about the increase in knife crimes and yet violently oppose ‘stop and search’.
I’m assuming Purdy is a commentator here? In which case s/he is either a liar or knows nothing about London. It is profoundly unsafe at the moment, as the published map of recent acid attacks makes perfectly clear.
The city has gone to hell and the woman in charge is a political appointee.
Purdy = Troll
Maxincontinent = Al Beeb Maxi Troll
A late addendum. Someone on Going Postal has just posted about the same programme, complaining in similar terms. It seems the woman in question was Christiane Amanpour. She is a’British Iranian’, has somehow been given a CBE, and works for CNN as its ‘Chief International Correspondent’. As CNN is a sort of insane asylum for demented former journalists who have completely lost whatever reason they once had, a great deal is explained.
What excuse Iain Martin has (other than that he works for the Barclay Brothers) I cannot imagine.
PS. I’ve just noticef that it was Quisquose who posted on GP about the programme and has now posted here, as well.
2 Cross-links : Twitter
in that prog “Christiane Amanpour said that @cnn and @bbc don’t lie.”
“Her husband used to be a bigshot in the Clinton admin,”
+ ITBB has comments about 2 similar progs
http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/scenes-from-this-mornings-today.html
… https://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.co.uk/2017/12/correspondents-look-ahead.html
BTW Here’s guest list : “News Review of the Year 2017 – with prescient, sensitive, riveting analysis by @iainmartin1 @soniasodha @camanpour
Particularly fascinating on political class curtailing tech giants/social media. Brill chair @JonnyDymond”
Something else on her
“Remember the fake Ambulance Kid story, by non other than the witchy Christiane Amanpour!!
Only the RT brought out the truth.”
.. So CNN, BBC, Clintons thick as thieves ?
Who are ‘They’
We keep hearing things such as “they have replaced gentlemen with gentlefolk” in the Carol God rest ye merry Gentlemen.
‘They’ want to change Christmas to Winter holiday or something like that.
It’s happening all the time with all our language under threat, newspeak is really happening.
Wouldn’t it be good (double plus good) if, when some council bans Christmas decorations or
suchlike (to avoid upsetting the Muslims although, to be fair to the Muslims, they don’t seem to care as they have so much other stuff to get upset about as it is) that the names could be published of those who decided to ban this or that.
Names published about who decided to replace gender with all these other terms.
All these busybodies on committees who decide which words are offensive.
These hidden people who brought us hate crime where it wasn’t a problem before. OK, sometimes banter got out of hand but it was gradually diminishing anyway. Now it’s replaced by a fear of not knowing what words are acceptable although this only applies to white Brits as nobody else can be racist.
I don’t know if black, darkie or negro are offensive now but you can make anything offensive just by how you say it and in its context, for example, “that creature Blair”. Is ‘creature’ racist or what?
My hope for 2018 is a fightback against political correctness. The cancer which is destroying us.
Already, being called ‘racist’ is no longer much of an insult as it’s used for the slightest perceived reason.
We should laugh in the face of the snowflakes who have to run off to their special safe space for a good cry if they get upset by someone who quotes Winston Churchill or says paki.
Let’s take our language back from these hidden people who want to replace it with newspeak.
Stuff them.
It’s a particularly dangerous weapon in England, because we are brought up to avoid giving offence (sorry, I mean were brought up to avoid giving offence). As a consequence, adopting PC is almost a reflex action – ‘it’s only being polite, after all’…
It is, of course, the way the far Left attempts to control politics, by subverting and owning the language and, as you say, it has to be fought tooth and nail.
“We should laugh in the face of the snowflakes who have to run off to their special safe space for a good cry if they get upset by someone who quotes Winston Churchill or says paki.”
Seriously, I want to know who exactly decided “you can’t say paki”?
It’s ok to say Afghan when they’re from Afghanistan so what’s wrong with paki from Pakistan?
Something we should all be aware of and resist; the tendency to reply to someone with the words ‘I’m sorry…’
You see it often in discussions, sometimes when uttering a mild disagreement, but even when one is just contributing.
I’m sorry, but I think we should stop saying I’m bloodywell sorry.
I seem to remember an episode of Reginald Perrin where he insisted on that………
Brissles, after you old thing!
HNY, Alan.
I thought Giles Fraser was quite good … up to a point. He could and should, in my view, have made the observation that the Christian church was entirely Jewish (& Samaritan Jewish) for some time after that Pentecost fire had fallen and wind had blown. I think I may have spotted a mistake, too. Did he say St Paul brought Gentiles into Christianity? I’ll have to listen again.
Yes, I noticed the Palestine thing but it was rather different Roman Palestine to the Palestine of WW2 and afterwards. Revvie Giles forgot to mention that, too.
Can’t we all agree that Jesus was at heart just an ordinary peace-loving Palestinian terrorist? The tradition has been corrupted since then.
I have listened again and it didn’t sound quite so good second time around. No mistake on St Paul bringing Gentiles into the church but he was wrong in what he said about Paul. St Paul had no belief that Gentiles should conform as Jews if they became Christian.
It was Paul who withstood Peter, who – having introduced Gentiles into the church – was later caught up by a Judaising sect within the early church. He (Peter) briefly either agreed that Gentile converts should be circumcised if male and other OT laws observed by male and female converts or tacitly went along with this group imposing that on others.
St Paul sorted him, and others, out on that particular erro, perhaps with some help from John.
Happy New Year.
A timely reminder of the benefits of multiculturalism, open door immigration, and the egg-on-face of the authorities who allow and promote it and then distance themselves from the consequences. From, of all places, the Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/12/30/berlin-sets-up-new-years-eve-safe-zone-for-women-amid-sexual-assault-concerns/?utm_term=.330bb46778b0
This seems to be one situation, ironically, where ‘safe spaces’ appear to be justified
They didn’t work At least according to this page
Interesting and very sad article. If ever there was an example of the gargantuan gap between real-world phenomena and the fairytale airbrushed facsimile that gets fed to the masses, it’s this.
The article quotes an ‘expert on sexual assault prevention’ who supports the German use of safe spaces at public events. Where acts of violence and abuse are subtly reframed as a problem engendered and solvable by the ‘society’ at large, I detect bullshit. She goes on to say:
“It’s also important to counter the promotion of other norms, such as rigid gender norms that associate masculinity with control and femininity with compliance, acceptance of abuse of power over others, and acceptance of aggression and violence.”
There you go. If we all had a nice chat about gender norms over a cup of tea and a chocolate hobnob*, that should solve the problem.
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*Chocolate hobnobs no doubt failing the committee’s anti-fascist guidelines on account of them being both chocolate and nob-like.
A good thing this isn’t Disqus; that footnote would never have got past the moderators.
Yes and a very happy, if possible, healthy we all hope, prosperous rather unlikely as things stand, NEW YEAR.
What annoyed you most about the BBC/TV- over the Christmas Period? Yes indeed that so called multicultural cartoon piece showing an obvious asian type man and an obvious asian type young girl dancing whilst apparently doing the washing up!! White bashing at its best-I found it offensive didn’t you? In view of it one might have expected Sadiq Khan the Mayor of Londonstan to start singing ‘Away in a Manger’. What an awful mess this country and most of Europe are in-roll on 2019 eventual departure if of course it actually happens before we are forced to accept another half a million or so immigrants.
It has been a delight these past two years not to have to pay the Licence fee….I hear you sob, what will the BBC do without my contribution to their extravagant spendthrift ways?
‘Christmas’ as we know it in the UK is clearly a northern European construct, (modified by North American influences of north Eurpean origin) – snow, fir trees, christmas cards, lights etc. ‘Coca-Cola’ Santa . The animation is surely a case of ‘cultural appropriation’, a deliberate attempt to provoke native northern Europeans.
I await Eid – The Musical starring Sir Lenny with interest. (Go on BBC, I dare you!).
New contributor! Love the site and it gives me great hope and at times amusement. Just a suggestion to lessen the comments like ‘in the 60’s’ ‘tottering home’ ‘nowadays’ as it gives the site a geriatric feel. Perhaps it’s only those in retirement who have the time to take up the cause. Happy New Year to all.
Unfortunately the decline of Britain and its institutions accelerated markedly in the 1960s so it’s a good reference point. You don’t have to have been an adult then to know this, just understand history and politics. Most under 40s have little understanding of recent history , alas, due to our crap education system- which also began to decline in the 60s but only really became utterly useless in the 80s.
As for the sixties. 2018 marks the 50th anniversary of the glorious rising in May of ze French students followed by the battle of Grosvenor Square led by the heroic Tariq Ali. Already the yoonies are preparing conferences, seminars, etc. to recall these events
I was always amused by glimpses of Tariq Ali’s shiny gold, and by no means cheap, Hublot watch so nobly borne on that egalitarian wrist.
I think it’s a fairly accurate rule-of-thumb that the more Lefty they are, the more they like the trappings of wealth.
Lobbie, I believe it was Joe Soberon who said that in their mating and migratory habits the Progressive is identical to the Klansman.
Not too sure about it declining that early but as a juniour child in the late seventies I can vividly remember an atlas poster on the hallway of my school with all those “pink” bits scattered all over the world…..could you imagine the uproar and wailing if this happened today by the BBC?!?!
New subscriber today but been a regular visitor for quite awhile.
Happy New Year to all.
Dear Lass,
Welcome aboard. Not sure of the demographic on the site- I suppose it’s down to those who are so fedup with al Beeb that they want to find an outlet for their emotion about what it has become and what it does.
Yes welcome Lass. Unfortunately I am still in my early fifties and will not be able to retire until I am in my late sixties (providing I stay healthy). I am here because I became fed up being lied to (probably like you).
I think it is true to say that most of us here are probably the “wrong side” of fifty but what it does do is enable us to remember how things were in comparison with how things are. Hence why we are all so concerned with the direction things are going.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but sometimes a bloody painful one. All I would like to add is I would love to be badly wrong about all of this but unfortunately I know I am not. Anyway I look forward to hearing more from you lass with the extra insight of yoof – init!
I think the trouble is that not only are we over-50s the only ones who can remember the sixties, we remember what real free speech is and how that has almost gone. The younger people have been fed all sorts of lies and restrictions on what to think and say. In education as well as the MSM are all telling the alt-left half of the debate and only the young ones with enquiring minds can find out for themselves that the truth in most matters lies in areas other than the ones from which they are being indoctrinated. Of course if you have only heard one side of an argument you will believe it implicitly and not even notice the internal-contradictions in the logic expounded by them.
The Jimmy Young show on Radio 2 – how many years ago was that? This was an example of so called ” freedom of speech” that went terribly wrong . Thoughts of what people were saying about news events were read out by Jimmy Young on air without editing them first.
These were not ordinary people – many had strong views and agendas – the average person listening to the programme would not phone in their views. The problem was Jimmy Young was reading out views that were often racist and filled with vehement hatred as well as anti Semitic at times. By reading them out , he was endorsing views that were not acceptable. But listeners clearly would accept his authority as a radio presenter and even if they weren’t his views, it seemed as if they were .
Many listeners who were perhaps more in tune with the music between the comments would nevertheless hear these comments and because they were repeated many times they became believable and influenced their thoughts on the subject..
I got a postcard back from the BBC after complaining saying “this is freedom of speech and I have the right to have my views aired as well ” This was NOT the point – the point is what he read out should have been carefully vetted for incitement to hatred and reinforcing lies. BUT the BBC simply REFUSED to understand the danger of this so called “freedom of speech”.
A strange comment. And would you say things are better now?
Don’t control the words. Enjoy them. Remember bbc use grooming rather than sadistic rape. Or divorce rather than demand. No deal rather than WTO trade. Enjoy the site!
English Lass, not everyone who checks in here is the other side of retirement, mid-40s myself and too busy with work and family to get on here as often as I’d like. I don’t have a a clue what they’re talking about sometimes, especially if it happened before my time, and it can make you feel a bit of an ‘outsider’, but please don’t let it put you off!
The, erm… ‘more experienced’, on here have a lot of wisdom between them (those who aren’t senile yet, anyway), and it’s well worth reading the comments when you get a chance, some of them have me laughing out loud, others really make you think.
It’s frightening that so many who are middle aged (Gen-X like me), or younger, are so conditioned that they (still) can’t see the bias being crammed down their throats on a daily basis, older people who didn’t experience the same brainwashing process at school and uni in their youth seem more attuned to it, and more aware of it, and angry about it too. I’m close to my parents (who are now at a stage of needing my assistance sometimes) and I think that’s helped me to be a bit more aware of some of the undercurrents going on.
On the plus side, I’m gradually converting friends and family to Netflix, everyone I convert needs very little encouragement to then drop the licence fee as “there’s never anything worth watching”, in that way I feel like I’m slowly doing my bit to weaken the evil corporation’s hold on hapless minds and souls. The truth is the BBC is losing its hold bit by bit anyway, it won’t be around for ever… just maybe too sodding long for a lot of us. It’s not even as if everything the BBC does is wrong, but the bias has clearly become institutional and now seems to pervade everything it touches… everything.
My kids’ generation don’t even know what the BBC is, they won’t care when it’s gone, probably won’t even notice, TV and radio are totally alien to them, they get their entertainment online, what, when and how they like (and if the likes of Merkel think they can stop freedom of speech online they’re clueless, honestly completely out of touch of what younger people can do on the internet) – and I see promising signs of a backlash against the ‘millenial’ generation (most of their teachers!) and their sheep like adherence to the Libtard agenda on the horizon too. As always, the next generation are going to despise the generation immediately proceeding them and what they stood for (or in the case of Millennials whimpered forlornly about) , which is, of course, exactly how it should be.
Yes, welcome, English Lass. It’s great to come across a young person who agrees with much of what we are saying on this site. Especially since I am generally regarded as a racist by the younger members of my own clan.
I object not just to the bias in a typical BBC news report but to the basic progressive assumptions behind its entire output – that the native white population of Britain are ignorant bigots and the colonisation of our country by aliens brings some kind of strength.
When I was a boy I was an incipient progressive. One of my best pals at school was a German boy. Although my parents were welcoming and kind towards him, they would also talk disparagingly in private about Germans as a people. They would behave in a similar manner later with an Asian friend of my brother’s. At the time I regarded them as fascist hypocrites (quite overlooking their wartime experiences). What a self-righteous, ignorant prig I was! I now see that they were decent people with a firm sense of who they were. Their instinct – that racial and cultural homogeneity was the basis of a strong society – was sounder than my half-baked modish ideas. They and their ancestors, along with millions of other white Britons down the ages were the people who built and nurtured this country and risked their lives defending it on numerous occasions. Every right and freedom I now enjoy was because of them. And what is happening today? Our homeland is being used for the nefarious project of diversity and is being given away to foreign savages. Our ability to protect and preserve our identity and cultural uniqueness is being eaten away every day not just by the traitor class of politicians who rule us but by the lies of the BBC.
It’s a shame if, like King Lear and me, you have to become old before you realise the truth. But if you who are of tender years are already seeing through the falsehoods, misrepresentations, omissions and bias of the BBC, you are in a fortunate position.
Talking Pictures (channel 81) is even better than Netflix.
Only a small thing, but it makes my teeth itch. Did you hear Harrabin R. on Toady this am, blathering on about plastic recycling and how the Chinks have now stopped taking our crap? Not so much that, but the accompanying “background sound effects”, presumably played to give credibility to his report. Like the background sound of a bin lorry and it’s operatives crashing about is gonna make you believe him more.
Feckin infantile. Just how old are the people that put this crap together?
Having been annoyed by the BBC at 6am on NYE, 9:30pm I passed the free concert at the pub, but was knackered so had to go home to sleep.
Only to wake at 5am and find Harra on both R5 &, BBC WS banging on about plastics/china and acting as if safely incinerating plastics is not an option.
Sopel, Ducett and Adler were all interviewed on Toady after 8.40. Alongside Harrobin we got another object lesson on the BBC world view. All gloom and doom about Britain’s loss of standing and respect in the world due to Brexit. Apparently even British democracy is less revered- yes for voting against an unelected bureaucracy . You have to laugh.
England
It was a compare and contrast job with that other now poor programme’ the foreign corespondents expenses accounts look a head’ from the other night. There is only one view of the world
These characters actually sound world that the UK isn’t being seen as a world player any more. Money is the thing which counts – as the Krauts know with their EU club – and good will and special relationships easily disappears
The EU Reich will be manoeuvring to get uk off the UN Security Council to be replaced by the Reich/EU. The French will want the best of both worlds as usual.
It is truly amazing how out of touch these sons and daughters of the empire are – talking about Blighty as some international power when the home country has been wrecked by their mindset .
Why don’t the bbc put up candidates for election to represent the bbc party in parliament.
I know most of the politicians are in thrall of the bbc but they should have a party of their own to represent their bbc far left politics.
Bbc already have a party, it’s called Labour, or Momentum.
The day we need to import creatures like Ducett (who can barely speak recognisable English) or Adler to lecture us about Britain is the day we might as well give up altogether.
That the BBC can present that trio with a straight face is all the evidence we need to prove the case that the BBC is indeed well and truly biased.
Craig has done a few posts about yesterday’s Samira Ahmed on Radio4
https://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.co.uk/2017/12/what-jeremy-vine-learnt-plus-samira.html
I made a few comments yesterday here on B-BBC at 12:57 pm
Titanic analogy
Expert-voters commissioned Brexit and operating specifications
It’s idiot REMAINIAC politicians guided by UKmedia who are trying to force it to drive outside that design spec
ie with EU Laws & trade
… instead of the spec of World Trade, and out of EU laws
There as been a tragic fire in a Liverpool multi-storey car park. Hundreds of cars have been destroyed . They haven’t stopped counting yet. Some witnesses have said they have seen the authorities sneaking burnt cars out to keep the numbers down . Large numbers of foreign registered cars have been burnt out . The community is rallying around ( and doing donuts). The local communist mp, a ms Coad, says the Tory cuts have worsened the conditions of hard working cars and is calling for a public inquiry and for car hating programmes like ‘top gear ‘ to be banned.
She said, in an interview outside the private school where the socialist MP sends her kids, that out thoughts and prayers are with the car owners and insurance companies. Oh yeah ‘enough is enough’
Liverpool. I wonder how many cars were actually insured (and I am/was a scouser!)
Popeye,
I reckon the cars were insured, as they belonged to people coming in to Liverpool to see the Horse Show, so probably a fair few Range Rovers and Discoveries.
The official spin is that an accidental fire in one car “spead” to 1400 others on four floors. I think this is rather unlikely. However, Liverpool is reinventing itself as a tourist destination, and maybe the powers that be think that tourists might not come if they think their motor could end up in a Paris-style carbequeue.
It may all have been an accident, it may have been scallies, or it may have been a gang who did not get their protection money. Take your pick, because the authorities will tell us whichever story suits them best.
It does not matter who caused the fire or how much damage was inflicted as long as it brings the community together
Or even “as long as it brings the communities together”.
Their lack of wheels might well have made removing the cars to safety an unduly arduous task. On the plus side – following your suggestion GWF – t-shirts with ‘I (heart) NCP’ are proving popular.
An update –
The Liverpool fire brigade , according to al beeb, say that the fire in the multi-storey car park could have been put out easier if sprinklers had been fitted .
Excellent idea -a car park cum car wash .
I suppose labour will be calling for all car parks to be fitted with sprinklers – multi storey or not .
Serves those cars right. Look at all these so called car attacks on bridges etc, reported by the BBC. Sooner or later karma would see that they got what they deserved!
@Fedup Coad is a Labour MP in controversy for sending kids to private school
but she’s the Kensington MP, remember the one from the Grenfell committee
“Despite her hard-left views, Dent Coad — brought up in bohemian Chelsea by an aristocratic Spanish father and English mother — sent her three children to public school”
Paywalled:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/business/advisers-on-hinkley-point-c-nuclear-power-station-had-cosy-ties-to-both-sides-xftxcl9sz
“Advisers on Hinkley Point C nuclear power station had ‘cosy’ ties to both sides – Apparent conflict of interest on Somerset project”
The tax payer paid 4.4 million to KPMG, yet it was also acting for the China General Nuclear Power Corp.
We also dealt out 2.6 million to financial advisers, the appropriately named Lizard, who it turns out, also advised EDF, the French company investing in Hinckley Point.
In no way can we say the taxpayer can know if they have had value for money or been taken for a ride.
Just think what would have happened without the Greens destroying the UK nuclear industry. We had the finest scientists and the most advanced technology in the world, until politicians appeased the Arts and Humanities, left wing greens from the BBC/Guardian, Now we are ripped off from start to finish, with 9,000 people dying from the cold every year in the UK.
I believe the BBC intends to offer an apology for its anti-science, anti-progress, luddite policies.
The British started the nuclear power industry.
I see that the first tanker delivery of Russian LPG has just arrived though, so that’s okay – nothing like being in the pocket of other countries to prop up your energy supplies; still at least we don’t have any of that nasty fracking though!
Our 1950s world lead on nuclear was utterly squandered and by the 80s we had to go for American pwr technology , then French/Chinese. Crazy. Civil aircraft industry similarly self destructed aided by govt and BA.
For an explanation of the graphic Happy New Year 2018
The Arabs invaded and occupied the he Roman province of Judea in the 7th century. Jesus, at the cusp of the 1st century, would have been baffled had someone spoke to him in Arabic or for one moment considered him to be anything but Jewish. He would have spoken Hebrew and Aramaic, with perhaps some Greek and/or Latin, but not Arabic.
Now Pilate wrote a title and put it on the cross. And the writing was:
JESUS OF NAZARETH, THE KING OF THE JEWS. (NKJV) John 19:19
Then many of the Jews read this title, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city; and it was written in Hebrew, Greek, and Latin. (NKJV) John 19:20
Giles Fraser needs to read his bible.
Is Fraser really a Christian as opposed to a Marxist or atheist? I think he’s a fake. Beloved by the BBC, naturally.
“Giles Fraser needs to read his bible.”
Giles Fraser needs to stop attending all those London “Celeb party” hand-holding, kiss-kiss, lets get to G-A-Y to really let our hair down Parties!
I don’t think he will bump into any Arab speaking Muslims in there! (then again)
A mention of the ‘O’ word during a UN debate? Surely not. That George Orwell is brought to mind is really quite creative for the UN. Let there be more references when what the UN imposes on its members directly affects, negatively, the populations of its member states. But, see the video: “UN silences” muzzie members unable to respond, stunned silent for a short while –
https://www.unwatch.org/algeria-jews-hillel-neuer-u-n-human-rights-council/
Joy of joys!
The first lie of the BBC .
That having a television means you must have a licence .
No , it’s receiving live broadcasts that requires a licence . You can possess a television and even have it connected , ready for use , but it’s only when you receive live broadcasts that you are legally obliged to buy a television licence .
The BBC and its subcontractors lie by omission about this as it’s very central to their own survival . So the BBC lies from the start and continues thereafter with its programmes .
Hello Nibor,
I’m just into the phase where I am in receipt of the first serious letter from tv licensing: “Your property is now under investigation”. However, to take one point, surely if the tv is physically connected to the aerial/sat dish, when the tv is turned on it arrives immediately at a station broadcasting live (the last station accessed). Doesn’t it? Mine does. I’m far from the stage of expecting a visit from licensing + police to gain access to see the set up but surely they would say, ‘See, even when you turn the tv on to access otherthings such as streaming, you have to pass through a short period of receiving a live tv broadcast’. Technically they would be correct. Sorry to be pedantic on this, a Bank holiday and indeed the first day of 2018 but I have been pondering the different scenarios Licensing have available and I conclude that you have to disconnect all aerials and sat dishes or………………….
If you have found another way to stay connected to aerial/satdish yet not briefly receive something broadcast immediately, please tell. I’ll be all ears.
G – In the first place TV licensing have no more rights than a door to door salesman. You don’t have to discuss anything with them and can tell them simply to get off your property or you will report them to the police.
Unless they have some sort of proof, like they can visibly see you are using live television through your window, then they can not get a search warrant to enter your house accompanied by a policeman.
In any case if your TV is also connected to a DVD player through an HDMI lead, and your TV settings are set to HDMI, then no live TV appears.
You can get much more advice to empower you from this anti TVL forum
Contact Gary ‘£1.75m’ Lineker on Twitter and say you don’t watch him and would like a refund but don’t know how to go about it.
Also ask if you stop paying and get prosecuted would he bail you out because you have paid his wages and Jimmy Saviles for some time now.
G,
Happy New Year and welcome to the refuseniks .
You’ve raised a point that I can’t answer because I don’t stream anything through my TV . Can you not leave your TV on a non broadcasting channel ? Can you disconnect the ariel before trying to download ?
Thanks TB & Nibor,
I am aware of the legal position but, by virtue of age, I am not familiar !00% with the possibility of setting the TV t o HDMI to avoid that that I refer to above. I will give changing the TV settings a try and report back, hopefully with success.
Very simple – there should be a ‘source’ or ‘input’ button on your TV remote. If you press it you will see a list of options (TV, AV, Scart, HDMI, YPbPr, etc.) . Just select the one you wish to use and press ‘Enter’.
Voila!
Hello TB,
I’ve just looked through all the options and the one you suggest (it is a ‘Smart’ tv) does not contain ‘HDMI’ or anything similar. However, both my TV’s are disconnected from the aerial/SD so that’s good enough for me so far as Licensing is concerned.
Glad you solved your problem anyway G 🙂
With what is mostly being broadcast today – I can see little point in purchasing a ‘smart’ TV.
Mind you if I was a comedian I could think of a good skit that would show a transformation of BBC output when viewed through a ‘smart’ TV.
You start to wonder if you’re caught in a Time Loop , then think ” I couldn’t see that happening there”. Sarcasm aside any #Metoo luvvies want to jump on this one.
http://www.westmonster.com/women-sexually-assaulted-in-berlin-during-new-years-celebrations/
I’m taking bets the Beeb won’t report it for a couple of days until it’s undeniable.
Beebistan won’t report the Berlin rapes until a) it’s undeniable, 2) it’s old news, 3) it can be tucked away on their website where no-one will see it, then 4) quickly disappeared altogether.
Good news in the Times: ‘Britons upbeat about jobs and house prices… more than half of Britons think their financial situation will stay the same or improve over the next year, according to the annual YouGov “state of the nation” poll.’
I can’t find it on the beebistan website, surprisingly.
But what I can find by their suitably diverse, no doubt affirmatively actioned Economics editor, Kamal Ahmed, is an article damning Trump with faint praise. Trump’s tax cuts have been a shot in the arm for financial markets across the globe, but here’s what Kamal has to say in conclusion: “The great synchronisation is with us. And America’s plans for tax cuts won’t do anything to harm that.” In other words it’s a worldwide spurt in growth that would have happened anyway.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/britons-upbeat-about-jobs-and-house-prices-scr0mj5ln
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42424698
vlad,
“I can’t find it on the beebistan website, surprisingly.” – The IBBBC would view that as their own propaganda failing.
Nibor
I haven’t looked at all the licensing verbiage for years but I love this bit
“The licence fee is not a payment for BBC services (or any other television service), although licence fee revenue is used to fund the BBC.”
Now if that isn’t bullshit…so how much do all the other TV companies get from the licence fee?
How do all you guys without a licence get around it?
JA, Channel 4 used to get a slice but I’m not sure whether that arrangement still holds.
James A ,
Happy New Year
I do it 100% legal which is why I dare them to take me to court . Others play them around , mainly by the No Contact way .
They are bullies . In their letters justifying their harrasment they rephrase meanings ; their ” enforcement ” officers become ” enquiry ” agents .
5 stabbings, 4 lethal, in London last night, mostly in colourfully diverse neighbourhoods. A police spokesman condemned the ‘small groups’ involved.
Mmm, could ‘small groups’ be ‘gangs’? Who could these gangs possibly be? The Sharks and the Jets? The Capulets and Montagues? How charmingly Shakespearean.
Anyway no need to worry, Emir Khant is on the case.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-42534127
When I was a young man growing up in the London suburbs this event would have bought the country to uproar. Questions and pressure on government plus serious comment and demands for action. I bet this slips down the memory hole just as soon as the media can do it.
Now when they ask was life better 50 years ago the answer is obviously yes. London is becoming too dangerous for the people of the shires and to be honest if you are responsible for young children do not go there ever again . We had the best of it long ago. it is a shithole now.
A convenient 2017 day-to-day guide to islamic acts in the UK –
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11648/britain-islamization-2017
Whatever happened to the ‘throw-away’: “enough is enough”. Treezer – tough on crime and tough on the causes………..
Happy New Year all!
We stayed in last night on account of the wife having flu. We watched the London fireworks display on tv and couldn’t help but notice how dreadful the music was, it was a sort of rap crap style not even in keeping with the fireworks.. why can’t they just have fireworks alone ? For a capital that considers itself the most diverse of cities the music was black culture music in the main.. hardly inclusive for us older whities ( although we are dying out apparently ). The music after as far as we could stomach it after the display was also black music, don’t get me wrong as some sort of racist but surely a bit of indigenous music by a white artist could make it more inclusive and diverse !
We switched over to J Holland on BBC 2 only to watch more black music. We then Had JH interview a couple of non entity guests who upon being asked their views on 2017 and 2018 started to whinge about Trump and yes… Brexit.
I see Australia had a rainbow display for the homosexuals, our own was headed by female singers celebrating the emancipation of women.
The whole thing has been politicized now, next year i will give it a miss.
Oh and to put the icing on the dung heap of an evening on BBC we saw that odious flabby Jo Brant skulking around on the JH show.
Overall a NYE nightmare !
Yes, Happy New Year to one and all
The NYE boreathon was commented on in the previous (weekend) thread, where several of us complained about it. I suppose the choice of music wasn’t the BBC’s but the tiresome appearance of the ape-like Jools Holland (who still hasn’t learned how to present a TV programme after over 30 years trying) was, as was the ragbag assortment of clapped-out pop music nonentities linked together by his inane and inept introductions.
Isn’t it about time they changed the formula, anyway? Holland is so past his sell by date he has become a public health hazard, and the fireworks spouting from the genetically modified bicycle wheel are the same every year. Perhaps instead they could set them off from Broadcasting House next year. With any luck they would have an accident and burn the place to the ground.
Jerry
Couldn’t have said it better myself – not necessarily due to the type of music – but just that most of it was crap. I was in a mixed nationality group (and I am Brexiteer, how can the re moaners square that one?) with ages from 30 to 60 and everyone had the same opinion…and yes the PC brigade have got the Aussies by the down unders as well as the UK..
For the only surviving “White indigenous music” New Year celebrations on telly, we watched the Hogmanay celebrations program from Edinburgh on “BBC Red Button 1” on Freeview channel 601. Although there were a few young people in kilts, most of the musicians were old, but still alive. Scotland still has an overwhelmingly predominant white population, which although is visibly aging, has not yet been replaced by young Afro-Caribbean types. We then switched over to BBC 1 (England) for the fireworks. BBC 1 (England) ended the year with an Afro-Caribbean act, followed by fireworks to the sound of rap music, and then ended with “Auld Lang Syne” coming from an Afro-Caribbean pop band. No wonder it’s only the Irish in me that makes me feel comfortable at being a white indigenous person living in England.
Christians are being slaughtered in Egypt and the BBC bury the stories way down in their ‘news’ reports. Brave young Iranian protestors are fighting back against oppressive and authoritarian Islamic rule and the BBC report the very basics, ignoring the cultural, social and political reasons underlying the protests; the vile Guardian and the entire lefty media are so petrified of offending their conservative Muslim masters they ignore the story in any depth and divert attention by creating fake news about incidents of ‘Islamaphobia’ (a term I vehemently dispute as it is not irrational to be concerned about a religion with such connections to widedpread violence) and rises in Right-wing attacks. Pathetic. Where are all the progressives, human rights campaigners and feminists voicing solidarity with these Iranian protesters and Egyptian Christians? They’re all too busy virtue-signalling over the Grenfell tragedy, Calais migrants and transgender toilets.
Alex,
The Uk imports more muslims by the day. Who benefits? You, me? Are the muslims going to make my life more difficult one way or another or perhaps better? Are the muslims aiming to change my way of life toward theirs? This, I’m afraid, is the reality – the country has been mismanaged for decades and the decline is accelerating toward a bottomless pit of strife, internal conflict more scarcity of services, housing. Everything in fact. Replaced by? Unemployed muslims living in ghettos where the police dare not go. Not working – living on the State. Leaving piles of rubbish and filth everywhere. It will be worse than anything the Corbyn/Treezer predecessors have inflicted on us in the past. Did I vote for anything like this?
“Who benefits? You, me? Are the muslims going to make my life more difficult”
Much!
For example! (and this is coming guys n gals) when I see that my local TAXI firm changes/translates the word TAXI to PAKSI I’m a white-tailing it outa here!…
A look back on 2017
The Appeaser: 3 bags full Your Eminence.
The Resister: Come one step closer with that rag and I’ll shove it up your cul, Monsieur.
Well, both PM May and Prez Trump have put out their New Year messages.
I know you probably didn’t get through PM May’s address, so here’s a typical sentence:
“Together with our allies, we will continue our fight against all forms of extremism …” [then goes on to presumably more serious problems such as “plastic waste in our oceans”].
What did President Trump say? Most certainly does not waffle around: “We will defeat radical Islamic terrorism and we will not allow it to take root in our country”, followed up by a tweet that more or less indicates he is going to cut off aid to Pakistan.
Hey, and the music is not bad, too:
And you can see from the Daily Mail coverage that his New Year’s Eve bash was quite something:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5225637/The-Trumps-arrive-swanky-Mar-Lago-New-Years-Eve-bash.html
Enjoy!
I heard Treezer’s New Year message and switched off when she spoke of building an economy ‘fit for the future’.
This seems to be her new slogan – fit for the future, added to strong and stable, enough is enough, Brexit is Brexit, Pretty Polly, Priti Patel
The slogan I’d like to hear is “I resign”.
“This is Lib-land get back to your own country ! You’re not one of us”
..that’s what the hatefilled libmob Twitterati shout
whenever a purple-skin like Farage, Lawson, Melannie Phillips is aired
The libmob don’t actually listen, for them it’s enough to quickly identify a person’s political-skin-colour
ie BBC progs are built for Lib-land, it’s their territory.
Somehow “open borders doesn’t apply to BBC/MSM airwaves
… if you are a Brexiteer, Climate Skeptic, not-a -hater-of-Trump then are not only are the gates closed, but the airwaves are used to smear and belittle you.
Conflict and Co-operation: A History of Trade is the new 1.45pm R4 ‘fill’, a fill that is required since dear Gwyneth wreaked her way through the R4 schedule. It is presented by Paul Seabright.
I sensed an agenda/propaganda on the way. Did anyone else?
More of a critique later.
I have been reading all our best wishes to each other for the New Year. I think we have forgotten (or I have missed them) our special wishes and thanks to David and Alan and whoever else is involved in running this site. I know on the odd occasion when the site is down I am like a bear with a sore head. Thanks to them and a good new year to all.
Thx Deborah and happy new to you and all who read, contribute and make this site what it is. Onwards and upwards we contiue our work for the upholding of free speech.
Andrew Castle is Gobsmacked at Adonis’s assertion that Farage is effectively PM
and his assertion that Brexit is “a dangerous populist and nationalist spasm worthy of Donald Trump”.
1776: Independence from England is “a dangerous populist and nationalist spasm worthy of George Washington” “to all intents and purposes, Lord North is now Prime Minister”
1922: Independence from Britain is “a dangerous populist and nationalist spasm worthy of Warren Harding” “to all intents and purposes, Bonar Law is now Prime Minister”
1940: Independence from Europe is “a dangerous populist and nationalist spasm worthy of Franklin Roosevelt” “to all intents and purposes, Winston Churchill is now Prime Minister”
2018: Independence from Europe is “a dangerous populist and nationalist spasm worthy of Donald Trump” “to all intents and purposes, Nigel Farage is now Prime Minister”
Very remiss of me , my only excuse is myself and Mr Kitty are not at our best ( flu) but Happy New Year to one and all on here and many thanks to David and Alan for their work all year through
And to the backroom folk who help David & Alan and respond very quickly when there are possible glitches.
It’s quite fascinating to watch the political classes tying themselves in knots trying to accommodate both their holier than thou pc agenda whilst ignoring the most intolerant, brutal religious fascism these islands have ever witnessed.
Last night London’s Muslim mayor Khan told us that this years NYE firework celebration was all about girl power.
“It follows a year when women have spoken out about sexual harassment and abuse from Hollywood to the Houses of Parliament. As a proud feminist I am really encouraged to see so many Londoners supporting our campaign to say that behind every great city is equality, opportunity and progress- regardless of gender.”
This pathetic specimen is so full of BS!
On the one hand we have civilised, decent, law abiding white Brits, who have built this great country and had equal voting rights for a century. And yet it is us who are are admonished and patronised for our intolerance and sexism.
And on the other we have in our midst the most misogynistic, backward, hate filled, suicide bombing, gang raping cult known to man. Barbarians that cut out their own daughters clitoris’s, dress their women in black death shrouds and insists on the most sub human form of gender apartheid.
And one of THEM is lecturing US!
Jeff – Solid post.
Khan must confront HALAL, as a lawyer he must fight positive employment discrimination where he is backing an industry that only allows a certain religion to cut animal throats. He must stop this before sorting out toilet allocations.
Happy Christian Eid!
HARAM HALAL!
Listening to Christiane Amanpour on the R4 review of 2017 this morning annoyed me so much that I typed a bit up.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09lvhc3
Here she is talking about President Trump as an example:
“When you demonise a group of people, ie the mainstream press … I think mainstream is a ridiculous word to use, the authentic, objective, traditional press … when you demonise them and call them liars, and make lies the currency of the land, you’re not just attacking journalists you’re attacking the foundation of your own democracy, and the difference between lies and truth is the difference between fascism and democracy.”
Iain Martin interrupts briefly saying that the people voted for him, and Amanpour replies.
“They’ve been fed a diet of lies. Sorry that is absolutely true. If they don’t believe the Russians had anything to do, despite all the American national security and intelligence findings, if his base does not believe the Russians had any interference in the election, then there’s a problem”.
It is sheer paranoid madness, it’s Barking, it’s Louise Mensch territory. She makes an unfounded claim that conforms to the MSMs mantra, and then without pause makes another that contradicts it and confirms the people’s distrust in the MSM in general, and people like her in particular.
The whole programme was peppered with the same predictable, angry, unfounded and cultish petulance that we’ve heard all year on the BBC. Whilst the BBC continue to invite people like Amanpour on their programmes they cannot pretend to be impartial.
Thank you, Quisquose. I spotted the other version of your comment over on GP a while ago and duly added an addendum to my original comment here about this ridiculous programme, which I has posted at at about 10am this morning. I’m very grateful to you for identifying the madwoman in question as I had failed to catch her name when I heard the original broadcast last night.
Typical liberal media sleight of hand from Ms Amanpour “… if his base does not believe the Russians had any interference in the election, then there’s a problem….”
That’s not what Mr Trump’s base is claiming – what they do believe is that there was absolutely no ‘collusion’ whatsoever between Mr Trump and any Russian authority in order to affect the result.
These things are quite different, and the evasive Ms Amanpour obviously knows it…. but then, what do you expect from certain members of the ‘authentic, objective, traditional press’ – as she prefers to call the increasingly shrill, fake-news, liberal media in the US.
I don’t recall the likes of Chrstiane I’m-not-poor, being so relentless pursuing the Clintons and their morass of corruption.
Ms Amanpour needs to get her story straight.
First, she talks about the “authentic, objective, traditional press”, and then says that the only reason people that people voted for Trump was that they were “fed a diet of lies“. Who by, then, if not by the media?
It’s one of those irregular verbs:
I follow the authentic, objective, traditional press
You have been fed a diet of lies
He is a racist and transphobic bigot
@quisquose “BBC News itself is impartial and does not offer opinions”
\\ In one of its latest rulings, the BBC Complaints Unit has decided that a report in December by US Correspondent James Cook – which openly called President Trump racist and fascist – was not a breach of BBC impartiality //
\\ No disclaimer at the bottom – or anywhere else – telling the reader that the opinions expressed are not to be taken as representing those of the BBC//
http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.co.uk/2017/12/bbc-news-itself-is-impartial-and-does.html
also here
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/david-keighleys-bbc-watch-impartial-just-staff-arent/
For a full, brilliant de-bunking of the ‘Trump is a fascist’ meme, a post on The Conservative Woman website by the Rev Jules Gomes takes some beating:
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/rebel-priest-rev-jules-gomess-christmas-book-choice-gift-wrapped-dynamite/
“Iran unrest: New protests as Rouhani plays down violence”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42535292
Rouhani is not the only one playing it down.
Kettle, pot and black.
Had a chuckle to myself watching Look North.
Two men are in a critical condition in hospital and five more suffered slash and stab wounds after an “altercation” in the centre of Sheffield last night.
“Altercation” FFS! That’s how you describe two people going for the same checkout in the supermarket and their trolleys collide, not the attempted murder of seven people.
I will be interested to learn the names of the perpetrator(s) if they get them.
And, it transpires, an ‘authentic. objective, traditional press’ which, in her case, happens to be married to James Rubin, a notorious Clinton and Obama ‘advisor’ (for which read ‘henchman’). She, meanwhile, is regarded in the USA rather as YAB is, here – if anything, even worse. No wonder Dymond allowed her to lie her head off without a single challenge.
If Ofcom was worth a damn, that would be an open and shut case of BBC bias and the programe’s producer would be looking for a job next week.
Not the BBC but from The Guardian (same old guff, different orifice). They have been following up the stories of people who were under threat of deportation from our heartless & cruel Home Office. How did they manage to re-adapt to their home countries? Imprisoned – or worse, by the evil dictators of said countries? – Nah, of course they’re all staying here – trebles all round!
To be fair some of the stories sound as though the Home Office box tickers were picking on the wrong type of illegal immigrants – like little old ladies who’d actually been here years, paid tax, and don’t seem like they’ll be planning any atrocities. But it just goes to show – get some lefty charity or a lefty newspaper to appeal your case and voila – the rules get magically bent.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/01/i-have-nightmares-people-threatened-with-deportation-reveal-what-happened-next
Possibly another “Truck of Peace” in San Francisco.
The two lead stories on Toady are rail fares increasing and advice that children should not eat too many sweets. You would think with their budget and wherewithal they could report on something exciting or challenging but I guess they have such a cushy life working for the Beeb that it makes sense to not take risks.
There was a review of the year on Radio 4 with several journalists resenting Trump attacking them, saying they are the ‘authentic’ media. They take themselves so seriously! How can you be authentic and politically correct at the same time? As someone said on this site, political correctness is a war on noticing.
How they hate it when their own tricks are used against them! For decades they yelled ‘racist’ at anyone who dared ask the most crucial questions about their alt-Left lunacy. We saw over and over last year how reckless and lethal their open borders, anything goes policy has been.
Then when they are called fake, they go all high-minded and talk about how they have a noble right to not be attacked in this way. What about us? We were condemned as Nazis for not wanting to live in a country with acid attacks, rape gangs et cetera! All so they could have an easy life as they refused to do their jobs properly. Such betrayal.
“German AfD MP under fire for anti-Muslim new year tweets”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42537656
Her crime? Stating the obvious.
What struck me in particular was a piece at the end:
Allegedly? Was no one ever prosecuted for it? If so, that can only have been because the authorities did not wish to prosecute. And I’d suggest it did a damn sight more than mar the festivities.
German police: appeasing lying cowards.
Bbc: appeasing lying cowards ².
The reaction of Twatter and Facebook just proves how they control media…judge and jury…
Just started reading 1984 prompted by posts on this site – it’s amazing how relevant it is…
Yeah I re-read it recently. Terrifyingly accurate. He clearly had the BBC in mind for the Ministry of Truth. As reality overwhelms them, their memory hole must be gargantuan. And how Trump is like Emmanuel Goldstein! Rather than five minutes hate it has been almost 24/7. And ‘hate crime’ is essentially thought crime, hatred being an emotion which the state should not be policing.
Good old Trump, kicking off the year in fighting form: “Trump blasts Pakistan ‘deceit’ in first tweet of the year”
How refreshing, a leader who tells our enemies to go f**k themselves, as opposed to the usual diplomatic niceties (think useless muslim-loving Hussain).
“The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years, and they have given us nothing but lies & deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools. They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more!”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42536209
It’s about time the US did something about Pakistan. According to Lily Allen on the BBC, the British are responsible for all the deaths in Afghanistan. According to the facts, it is the Pakistan government that appeases and protects the Taliban that is responsible.
Trump is delivering.
Drain the swamp Don, then come over here and drain our swamp. Please.
Vlad
From memory uk gives – gives – £350 000 000 to the pakis each year out of taxpayer – borrowed money – difd numbers .
Crocodile tears from hypocritical beebistan over knife murders in London. When they and their ilk do everything they can to impede stop and search and kick up a stink every time a black is arrested. Now they’re blaming the police, ‘what’s going wrong?’
Phoney accusations of racism by you beeboids is part of ‘what’s going wrong’ and you’re the worst offenders.
Now they’re blaming lack of funding, how convenient for their anti-austerity, anti-government agenda.
Toady watch
One of my new year resolutions was not to write this but I listened to the beeboids chatting about 2017/8 again and was struck by the constant narrative about Grenfell – that reduction in spending taxpayers/borrowed money was the cause.
No one knows the cause yet. That’s what the inquiry is meant to deliver ( will it?/) .
So what will they say if Grenfell turns out to be a criminal act or just a one off? I suppose they’ll attack the inquiry .
The other bit of the discussion was that failing public services have happened because a lack of spending – no mention of 500 -000 guest workers / immigrates turning up every year ( minimium). Personally I’m in the JRM camp of cutting public spending so I prefer a smaller international health service, less spent on education , less state home provision , benefits and definitely no state funded al Beeb.
Earlier it was mentioned that foreign wimmin turning up and delivering their brat in nhs hospitals but then leaving without paying costs the state a minimum of £20 000 000. A few arrests and deportations might deter them but can you image in the liberal response ? ( yes I know the line £20 million quid is not a lot – nonsense )
The BBC need to add up all the ‘not a lot’ figures … aid for African spice girls verses a water well and contraception or a book on called ‘where there are no doctors’.
A lot of ‘not a lot’ turns into a lot very quickly.
All over £20 million! This one alone cost half a million –
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4176406/Meet-Nigerian-cost-500-000-IVF-triplets.html
A consultant at a SE London hospital recently suggested that one thirds of births there in the last year were to mothers who were not entitled to free NHS care.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/726817/London-hospital-used-Nigerian-mums-flying-free-maternity-care-UK-NHS
Biased BBC absolutely banging on about the rise in rail fares today. Rail. The mode of transport which accounts for….errr…..7% of total journeys in the UK.
Cue mass coverage of indignant commuters.
Just two small points not covered by the biased coverage.
1. Rail fares have been inflation linked for years. Inflation is relatively high, so rail fare increases are relatively high. The increase was thus entirely foreseeable and could have been reported at any time. Doh!
2. Road fuel prices have increased by MORE than the rail fares in the same period. About 4.3% in fact.
Who would have known that, based on the coverage? No apoplectic coverage of that. No indignant car users. I suppose a quick online search is just too much work for the famed investigative journalists in the BBc news room. Allow me to help them.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/669064/weekly_fuel_prices_Excel.xlsx
As usual, the private motorist, despite accounting for over 80% of UK journeys, doesn’t count in statist BBCland, only like-minded statist organisations tick the BBC box.
It’s a difficult time for the BBC in the Middle East. They so much want to report atrocities committed by
Israeli troops. Maybe it’s not the BBC but some cameraman is likely saying to the girls ” push them , Ok no reaction .
slap them round the face.” Then there is IRAN. But I don’t expect the BBC to get much involved there.
“BBC -Mr Revolutionary Guard can you tell us why you are killing your own people?” I think not.
Back in the studio it’s being introduced to the now typical UK family. Black father , white mother and the kids
telling us what sweets they eat. Completely norm BBC mixed marriages. BUT not yet 100%. And that
applies to the glossy magazines as well. 99% of us are fine about mixed marriages and why should we
feel any different? BUT BBC and advertisers, there is complete mix of relationships. Stop insisting on
your assumed racial political correctness statements!
BBC gone to the same ground on this as Labour.
All a bit awks. Not looking great for the ex-staffer there accused of, well, what seems to be happening.
Maybe a bit of Toby bashing is the way to go?
Whether to vox pop, or just have a pop, that is the question…
BBC TV news and current affairs hits the ground running this morning with the – dare I phrase it “populist” – issue of rail fare increases. Vaguely bride of Frankenstein-looking northern lass Steph has already been out and about on the station concourse with a microphone and rather gives the game away with the admission somewhat along the lines of : “It’s not difficult to find people who say they are not happy with this” Oh and by the way there’s a balancing line framed as “Ministers say… investment… blah dee blah” Not half so satisfying as having a good old moan and expecting something for nothing, eh? And just in case you didn’t know rail re-nationalisation just happens to be an almost popular Labour Party policy and I’m sure as the day goes on the BBC will receive some nice pithy Labour quote with which to embellish their reports.
Story two is that Nanny State reckons we are giving kids too much of the stuff they like to eat. I suddenly got an image from Orwell’s 1984 of Big Brother cutting the chocolate ration. Funnily enough the BBC doesn’t do a vox pop on this one.
It was hilarious, BBC Steph was at newly revamped London Bridge station to get the views of these disgruntled travellers – the two moaners were the pretty unimpressive, one looked and sounded like a disheveled aussie – but the majority ( a small number ) were quite happy..Steph’s face was a picture – didn’t get the response the BBC wanted.
‘…sounded like a disheveled aussie’
S’truth mate, cut a bloke some slack… so he was bombed out, full as boot, good on him, I say.
It’s still bloody New Year, don’t do him up like a dinner just ‘cos he sounds like a cot case.
You Poms carry on like this with yer Aussie bashin’ an’ Sir Les will be making some stiff diplomatic representations in your direction, tout bloody suite!
Just as soon as he’s sobered up.