Start the Week Open Thread 21 May 2018

As many Britons bath in the post  nuptuals of a recent diverse wedding we return to the sad prospect of biased al Beeb. Monday the 21st – start of the Grenfell inquiry, Tuesday 22nd – anniversary of the Muslim terrorist attack in Manchester and at the end of the week the Irish Referendum on abortion . And the ongoing attacks on President Trump, Brexit and anyone or anything of which Albeeb groupthink disapproves

so a busy week…

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743 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 21 May 2018

  1. Beeb Brother says:

    Toby Young makes a good point that fewer black kids apply to Oxford as Lammy keeps denouncing it as some racist hellhole.

    Once again, left wing people exacerbating the very problems they ostensibly seek to solve.


  2. MarkyMark says:

    “ROYAL WEDDING” — A Bad Lip Reading


    • Moodswing6 says:

      This is the best thing I’ve seen for ages. How scandalous only 15 likes. 15,000 should be more like it. Very clever very naughty and bloody brilliant.


  3. taffman says:

    “Deutsche Bank to cut more than 7,000 jobs”
    What , no Despite Brexit?
    And …………………
    “Pound rises back over $1.34”

    Will May go for a second transition period ?
    We should have got out two years ago, the British economy is suffering because of this continued uncertainty.


    • wronged says:

      ”Deutsche Bank to cut more than 7,000 jobs”

      Didn’t Treezer’s husband Phillip used to work for them. City boy Phillip is a Remainer.

      Don’t anyone tell me that a politician is not influenced by their spouses opinions.

      She’s a dyed in the wool Remainer.
      Anna Soubry’s husband is a Director of EU/Muslim loving Morrrisons
      City boy Stephen Hammond Director, Pan European Research, with responsibility for seventy professionals based in London and across Europe.

      Relevant -of course it is.
      Self interest – of course there is .
      Think we are stupid – of course they do


  4. G.W.F. says:

    Multicultural Manchester is a city of love, communities come together, is the BBC message

    And last week the community of love in the shithole that is Manchester shared another piece of cultural enrichment. A Taliban fly swatting event

    Now why didn’t the BBC cover this spectacle?


  5. MarkyMark says:

    Here is the diverse EU Commission that everyone loves …. Diversity is our Strength …. but not in the EU.



    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Ah yes, but even if they were all the colours of the rainbow and represented all of the widely recognised 217 genders, the usual BBC definition of diversity would still apply: We may all look different, but we all think the same.


    • Lurkio says:

      I believe ‘hideously white’ is the approved BBC term.


  6. MarkyMark says:

    Names do matter …. some are common …


  7. MarkyMark says:

    Theresa May’s new boss who says ‘Death to Israel’ and burns flags like children has spoken …

    What are Ayatollah Khamenei’s main conditions?

    European powers should protect Iranian oil sales from the US sanctions and continue buying Iranian crude.

    European banks should safeguard trade with Iran.

    The UK, France and Germany should pledge not to seek negotiations on Iran’s ballistic missile programme and regional activities, both demanded by Washington.

    The supreme leader said that if the three countries were unable to meet these demands, Iran would resume its enrichment of uranium.

    He also said Iran could no longer have any dealings with the US.

    Iran nuclear deal: Khamenei lists demands for European powers { 23may2018}


  8. ChrisMorrison says:

    Day four of radio 4’s increasingly bizarre “Climate change and metoo” and any trace of actual science has finally disappeared. Today’s offering came from Jennifer Leaning who gave us the standard political fire and brimstones lecture from the pulpit.

    Ms Leaning, who works in “human rights” at Harvard, started by describing the sometimes desperate conditions that face humans trying to survive in marginal areas, in places such as the horn of Africa. It was ever so. The new game in town is to blame it on humans changing the climate, as if we can do anything about the cold and hot areas that Mother Nature has always created on planet Earth. It gets very silly when Ms Leaning suggests that a deciding factor in the Syrian civil war was a four year drought in northern areas of the country. And there was your correspondent thinking that a deciding factor in the largely muslim civil war might have been a desire to overthrow the dictator Assad during the so-called Arab spring revolution.

    It is easy to point to human conflict, endemic throughout history, and blame it on your pet theory du jour. It is unlikely that Ms Leaning would consider that the effect of recent small increases in atmospheric CO2 has led over the last few decades to an estimated 10% increase in plant life. It is unlikely that she would consider the lessons of history that humans do better in times of gentle warming. Cooler periods tend to lead to food shortages, increased levels of disease and widespread warfare. It is also unlikely that she has considered the temperature data from satellites that show clearly that any recent increases in global temperatures has been concentrated in the northern latitudes with Africa and the tropics much less affected.

    Real science, provable science – not scare stories designed to drive a political message by so-called scientists and academics addicted to constant virtue signaling.

    According to Ms Leaning the south Pacific presents us with the first forced migration of people due to climate change. Apparently sea levels are rising and threatening to engulf many of the local islands. There is no solid evidence for this. Any change could easily be due to movement underneath of tectonic plates. Islands come and go – it happens. Needless to say, local rulers have been quick to pick up on the foreign aid possibilities with Ms Leaning noting that they have been “compliant and respectful” in their shakedown, sorry, requests. Such as been the scale of the economic aid that some wags have suggested that the rulers of some these islands face problems if sea levels rise and even bigger problems if they don’t.

    By the end of her talk Ms Leaning went into full fire and brimstone mode blaming almost everything in the natural world on human-induced climate change. In the end it just ended up as massive job creation plea for more academics like her to open yet more brainwashing university human rights and environmental departments.

    We press on. Any takers for just a hint of science from the “eminent scientists” on day five?


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Very good points.

      Looking back to the 17th century, we find it hard to understand how rational people could believe in witchcraft, and burn innocent people at the stake for a “crime” which simply did not exist.

      Assuming civilisation survives for another 500 years (and that is a hope rather than an expectation), I wonder if people will find it similarly amazing that we have worked ourselves into a frenzy over a slight increase in a harmless trace gas in the atmosphere? It will be very hard for them to understand.

      Of course, by then, the twin processes of de-industrialization and islamification may have led to all knowledge of the past being haram. The one thing the study of history ought to teach is that the people acting at the time had no way of knowing how things would work out.

      For us, my best guess is: badly.


      • JamesArthur says:

        ‘Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.’ or
        its original form, “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
        Either way Rob, yes.. Climate change = witches or vapours.. science is not perfect and is now a political tool used by tools(sic) who don’t understand it.
        If anyone cares to look at the history of Islam they would see the same now..but they don’t want to look..


    • MartinW says:

      I listened to that woman’s diatribe with increasing incredulity, such was the tissue of lies, blatant scaremongering and erroneous conclusions she had arrived at in respect of the reasons for conflict. It was, in my view, the very worst representation of the subject I have heard. If ever there was a case for an independent inquiry into the coverage of ‘climate change’ in the BBC, that was it.


  9. vlad says:

    Amidst all the Beeb moaning about black admissions to Oxford, some figures you will never ever see are IQ results by ethnicity, or figures on family breakdowns, or psychometrics such as aspiration, motivation, deferred gratification etc.


    • Richard Pinder says:

      You could read “The Bell Curve” by Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murry. And the more matter of fact “Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis, by Richard Lynn.

      Also, I have been told that Mensa members are to infiltrate the BBC in Manchester next week to see how low IQ middle-class left-wing liberal morons are able to work in the media world.

      Also whether its true that the computers at the BBC are more intelligent than those people chosen from ethnic communities and Guardian adverts to work at the BBC Mediacity.


  10. MarkyMark says:

    699 Days since UK voted to leave the EU @52%.
    1 PM says ‘Brexit means Brexit’.
    0 Days Since Leaving the EU.

    . . .

    22 Children murdered in Manchester.
    1 PM said ‘Enough is enough’
    0 Arrests followed.

    . . .

    600K Migrants Lost by the UK Home Office.
    20K Terrorists on Watch List.
    3K Extreme Terrorists on Watch List.
    1 PM who said ‘Enough is Enough’.

    . . .

    364 Days of #WorldNoHijabDay NOT supported by UK Foreign Office.
    1 Day of #WorldHijabDay supported by UK Foreign Office.



  11. Jeff says:

    It’s telling, isn’t it? We native Brits enjoy quaint traditions like the slightly daft, but entirely benign, Morris Dancing… and this Muzzie crowd enjoy watching a bloody festival of self flagellation. Hmmm…
    I remember, not that long ago, the liberal elite getting their ethically sourced, Luva Huva knickers in a twist, when they discovered a local British tradition that had gone on since the year dot. It involved some bloke who “blacked up” (uh-oh) and got chased through the streets. No-one was hurt and it was entirely harmless and was a local custom, the origins of which are lost in the mists of time. The Guardian and the Beeb were all over it like measles.
    They were outraged that such things could still go on in modern, tolerant (??) multi-racial Britain. The way they described this event you would have thought that a branch of the Ku Klux Klan had taken up residence in Cornwall.
    I believe it’s been banned now, such was the screeching from the left, aided and abetted by some “progressive” PC pillock on the council. I think that’s a shame.
    Will we be seeing similar rabid outrage at this revolting, subhuman spectacle?
    I don’t think so…


  12. MarkyMark says:

    £900 poorer for the working people … but 18% pay rise since 2010 for MPS …. how does that work?

    April 2010​ ​£65,738
    April 2011 £65,738
    April 2012 £65,738
    ​April 2013 ​£66,396
    ​April 2014 ​£67,060
    ​May 2015 ​£74,000
    . . .
    ​April 2016 ​£74,962 (Brexit Vote)
    April 2017 £76,011
    April 2018 £77,379 (Current MP Salary)

    £77,379 – ​£74,962 = £2417 increase for MPs since Brexit. How does that work?


    • Moodswing6 says:

      MM it seems that for ordinary workers increased productivity is essential towards a tiny one or two percent wage increase. While politicians can get a whopping 18% while reducing their already mediocre productivity levels to below zero.


  13. MarkyMark says:

    If you can’t beat them … Neil joined them …


  14. MarkyMark says:

    A president of the USA said he’d send the UK to the back of the queue if the UK voted leave.

    Now a new USA President says the UK can come to the front of the queue, but our leader backs Iran instead so sends the UK into a different queue.


  15. Peter Grimes says:

    JoKo Burn interviewing millenium Monentum former Labor NEC child Justine Beckett on Daily Politics. Stupid bitch starts each response with ‘so’.

    Edukashun, edukashun, edukashun!


    • Up2snuff says:

      Peter, now I know why Michael Gove said what he did during the EU Referendum Campaign about ‘experts’.

      When I hear a contributor to BBC R4 N&CA start a sentence with “So, …” I mutter, state or yell at the radio “Ah! You MUST be an expert then.”

      Thing that puzzles me: women appear to do this rather more than men. What does that reveal? It is a puzzle. Is it down to insecurity? Or feelings of inadequacy?


  16. MarkyMark says:

    Chinese … always getting ahead of the game …

    “Muslims forced to drink alcohol and eat pork in China’s ‘re-education’ camps, former inmate claims.
    ‘The psychological pressure is enormous when you have to criticise yourself, denounce your thinking,’ says detainee”



  17. MarkyMark says:

    Funny … comedy that writes itself ….


  18. Guest Who says:

    A HYS might be fun.


  19. G says:

    ‘Come back Marine Le Penn, all is forgiven……’. A bit too late now, you had your chance.


  20. Guest Who says:

    Also popcornworthy…


  21. G says:

    A Government Petition to abolish the definition of the, “…long standing philosophy of British policing…”?
    In breach of ALL principles. The fig leaf of respectability should be removed for the World to see.


  22. MarkyMark says:

    RT Are using Diane Abbott to highlight the UK is racist … I would love to see Douglas Murray debate Diane Abbott … please make it happen RT …

    Neocon Douglas Murray’s attempt to destroy ‘the myth of British racism’ by citing that Brits ‘warmly received’ Meghan Markle ‘into their hearts,’ is ambitious for an author with a litany of Islamophobia accusations to his name.
    In a frankly bizarre piece by the white, middle class, Eton and Oxford educated, associate director of the right-wing neocon think tank, The Henry Jackson Society, Murray tried to make the argument that the recent royal wedding between one white, privileged, royal and a mixed-race celebrity, was proof that Britain has no racism issue.

    ‘Britain is not racist, Meghan Markle proves it’ – argues white, Etonian, neocon Douglas Murray { 23may2018}

    For real evidence of British racism, Murray would do well to sit down with a black MP, such as Diane Abbott who was revealed by Amnesty International as receiving nearly 50% of all abuse directed at British parliamentarians on social media, during the lead up to the 2017 General election. Abbott told the Amnesty International study, that she had received hundreds of letters including ones “covered in swastikas and pictures of monkeys and chimpanzees”.

    Spend some time with her and then tell your Spectator readers that racism in Britain is a myth.


    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      “Abbott told the Amnesty International study, that she had received hundreds of letters ”

      Hundreds? Are you sure Diane? Can you demonstrate how to count to one hundred for our audience please?


      • David R says:

        Surely Abbott is a prime example of a racist with her anti-white remarks?


    • G says:

      “…Murray tried to make the argument that the recent royal wedding between one white, privileged, royal and a mixed-race celebrity, was proof that Britain has no racism issue.” But, in the lead-up to the wedding but who was constantly banging-on about ‘mixed race’? Well, the BBC if I’m not mistaken.


  23. scribblingscribe says:

    “Romanian becomes second most common non-UK nationality”

    Interesting in itself but the tile doesn’t cover one of the lines in the middle of the BBC’s piece: “The number of people living in the UK but born abroad was up by 3% from 2016 – 9.4 million of the total population.”

    The UK has a population of around 64 million people, of whom 9.4 are foreign born. That means that almost 15% of people living in the UK are foreign born. A striking figure.


  24. MarkyMark says:

    Yemen … the only place where Eddie Izzard won’t dress in a skirt and wear lipstick when visiting the Muslim Sunni and Muslim Shia people … odd.



    • G says:

      Just shows how quickly Izzard and others of his ilk can shed their colours when need be. Could he be practicing for a sudden and unexpectedly speedy change over to muslim control in the UK so as to, (forgive me) not get caught with his trousers down?


  25. Tabs says:

    Anyone noticed the “diverse” BBC1 Watchdog programme?

    When presenter Nikki Fox, who is in a wheelchair (tick!), reads out viewers emails and tweets she has a diverse array of BBC workers behind her.

    Going back over the episodes available on iPlayer we have had sitting behind Nikki:

    Episode 2, white lady, black lady, muslim lady in hijib.
    Episode 3, white lady, muslim lady in hijib from episode 2 and a different black lady in traditional west African costume.
    Episode 4, black lady from episode 2 and 2 other white ladies
    Episode 5, muslim lady in hijib from episode 2 & 3 and a new black lady
    Episode 6, a WHITE MAN and the black lady from episode 2 & 4.

    Obviously the Muslim lady couldn’t make episode 6 due to Ramadan so they managed to get a man into the camera shot “for diversity” ffs!

    I’m sure all those people got the job based on their skills and not because of their skin colour/genitals.


    • Lobster says:

      Tabs –
      “I’m sure all those people got the job based on their skills and not because of their skin colour/genitals.”
      I’m at a bit of a loss as to know what those skills are, because every time I see them they appear to be just staring at their computer screens and make no attempt to type anything on their keyboards. What on earth are they there for?
      Nice work if you can get it.


  26. MarkyMark says:

    Education …. Diane Abbott … product of BBC’s Simon Schama ….


    “..I’m slightly amazed at our colleagues (Simon Schama BBC@£200K) ability to get big laughs on gang rape…I’m not much of a feminist but I draw the line at the 3 year old getting raped, and the seven year old getting gang raped in a basement. (audience claps)” – Mark Steyn {youtube The Munk debate @4:46}

    “…I’m just struck by how obsessed by sex these two guys (Farage/Steyn) are, it’s a bit sad really… (audience laughs, Simon smiles)” – Simon Schama (£200K BBC Salary) {youtube The Munk debate @2:00}


  27. Guest Who says:

    She seems to get about a bit.

    Bet she’s as please as Robbo about the nukes staying on the table too. Our Nick seems almost chipper that the NK deal is off.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Have you seen the stuff being put out by al beeb and others of the need to increase taxes to meet the needs of elderly social care?

      The populus is being prepared for hikes in national Insurance which is of course just another tax .

      I don’t think anyone in the msm says anything about the insane overseas tax givaway. End it – as it is borrowed money or use that for social care. Simple


      • Holly Selassie says:

        I noted that too on the news this morning. We`re all living too long.
        Hence the need of islam to cull us, being the message.
        And -though they blame those who paid in by way of taxes for living too long, they seemed not to consider that immigration is dragging us down and the costs of keeping them up.
        Pensioners bad, immigrants good, not mentioned either.


  28. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Search for Islam …

    1. Science and Islam.
    2. Science and Islam: The Power of Doubt.
    3. Science and Islam: The Empire of Reason.
    4. Science and Islam: The Language of Science
    5. The young Turks rejecting Islam
    6. Cardiff University receives £850k gift for study of Islam
    7. Losing their religion: The young Turks rejecting Islam
    8. Man Like Mobeen: Series 1: H-ALTRight
    9. Waryam Hussain: Man charged with murder over fatal stabbing
    10. Islamic State supporter called for Prince George terror attack, court told

    BBC Christianity …

    1. Louis Theroux’s Weird Weekends: Series 1: Christianity
    2. Christian Curnyn.
    3. The Grandeur That Was Rome: Gods and Men.
    4. HARDtalk: Dan Brown – Author.
    “challenged the story of Christianity and sparked outrage in the Vatican”
    5. HARDtalk: Christian Noyer, governor of the Bank of France (2003-2015)
    6. HARDtalk: Richard Holloway – Former Bishop of Edinburgh
    7. Six Weeks to Save the World.
    8. Taisce Shean Uladh – Treasures of Ancient Ulster: Episode 4
    9. Taisce Shean Uladh – Treasures of Ancient Ulster: Episode 2.


  29. wronged says:

    BBC British traitor Anna Soubry is on Question Time again.
    I usually watch it- but Soubry I cannot stand.
    Instead, I think i will watch Pain, Pus and Poison at the same time on BBC 4, Despite the title reminding me of traitor Soubry.

    I cannot think of a woman I detest more in politics.
    At least Abbot makes me laugh at her stupidity.

    Soubry is just a vicious bully. A person to be deservedly hated.

    Is there a Tory on this site who is proud of having this anti democracy, pro EU, ex BBC idiot in their party.

    Speak up.


    • Holly Selassie says:

      No wronged.
      But she IS a decent baseline of how nasty and entitled the sozzled, self righteous political elites have become. And -seeing as we want Corbyn gone and Remainers hanging up on Tower Hill in a few years time…she only shows us how effete, spineless and useless the Brexit camp are.
      The likes of her crave power and expenses-and unless we on the Right side of things have a few nasties who actually STAND for something( and not some fishwife like Soubry as they do, being gentlemen without bollocks)-then it will only get nastier.
      When we finally get someone who`ll personalise it so scum like this Sybil turn to the hip flask or dissolve into tears on camera-then we maybe don`t deserve to get out of the EU.
      They want it so badly, why don`t our side?
      Where`s Nick Ridley when you need him?
      And the biggest tribute to Airey Neave is that they had to kill him before he got to the enemy. He should have been better protected and we would have saved ourselves a lot of bother if wed hanged a few of the INLA at that time.
      Where are OUR Aireys today? Who on earth among our side is one worth a bullet to Barniers Bumbags?


      • wronged says:

        Aahh, Ridiculous Nidley, his Poll Tax idea cost Thatcher her job.

        Airey Neave I respected. Killed by the cowardly IRA. The very same IRA who our PM is so frightened of. We were far too soft on the IRA and still are. They control what we want to do because May is a weak coward.

        Within two weeks of the Brighton bomb Corbyn was publicly chatting to his IRA mates. He should have met them with a rifle in his hand.
        Politicians disgust me. Neave was rare good one.
        Amnesty for Peace was a No Deal. Jail for murder is a deal. IRA were lucky that traitor Blair was PM at the time.


        • Up2snuff says:

          So right, wronged, so right.

          The Poll Tax (Community Charge) was actually a really good idea spoilt, like so many Conservative initiatives, in its implementation.

          Saw hints of that again this time last year with the Conservative Election manifesto.

          The Poll Tax was weighted too harshly toward the low paid and there were insufficient exemptions for minimal payments. It was stupidly introduced in Scotland first. It should have been trialled in leafy Tory shires. Because Thatcher and Michael Portillo were unwilling to fine tune it after the inevitable flaws were observed and experienced, it became a battle ground, a cause célèbre for all of the Left.

          In its place we have the even more iniquitous Council Tax, a Labour-approved tax that really does rip the financial heart out of the poor and lower paid while advantaging the rich.


  30. Holly Selassie says:

    Only on the BBC eh?
    Last night on Radio 4 at 8pm was a programme about the historical power of fashion.
    Yes, its creativity, its rebel chic, its empowering and its key role in contemporary culture over the last 75 years or so.
    It`s laying trails and blazing righteousness in all things historical.

    Didn`t bother with it. Usual crap.
    But put the radio on again at 8.45. And some bloke was telling me that looking at people, clothing, weight and the like were now a crime, cause of misery, judgemental oppression and other horrid things.
    The two shows were right next to each other on the schedule.
    What`s a girl to do?…do I thank Vivienne Westwood or do I spit venom at anybody who says I`ve lost a bit of weight?
    can`t imagine that the BBC even care how nuts they now are. They just put it out there, like a sack of rotten fish heads with a small phial of caviar if you`re bovvered.


  31. Synchronised says:

    Beeb website at it again. President Trump looking angry but nice Mr. Kim with the what did I do innocent persona. Pathetic.


  32. Holly Selassie says:

    I have no telly now, so rely on this site for all my current affairs.
    Thank you all, I honestly don`t need to bother with a telly, the stories cited here need no pictures whatsoever.
    I know Emilys face if Steve Bannon is trying to inform her, from all her other hissy fits to no avail since 2009.

    My point is that , from what you`re saying there is just no news. Only opinion, posture settings and signalling surrender to Islam, and virtue to their caste.
    It`s all opinion, bitchslaps, stirring a pot and massaging features so Brexit and Trump are bad, Corbyn and the EU are grand.
    I mean , has anything NEW actually happened that we`ve not already seen on an endless loop before?
    Islam Trump, Brexit, Corbyn, EU, Greencrap?
    Where`s the news in any of THAT?
    Good times-they`ve run out of news.
    Literally nothing to say, but what key is “scraping the barrel”, come the day when there`ll be no 24 hour news and we`ll all let it whine on with a white dot as we used to.
    Wonder how many sharks Evel Knieval could have jumped on his disability scooter? That is all the BBC are giving us now since 2010.


    • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

      From the mainstream media I restrict myself to the free online papers – Daily Mail and (increasingly silly) Guardian, about twice a week. I’ll look at the BBC site only when someone links to it on here. Now and again I’ll check out foreign papers. Otherwise I’ll be browsing all those other politically naughty sites for news – that I’m sure Mrs May would tut and wag a finger at.

      Cutting to the chase, looking at mainstream news is increasingly a waste of time. There’s plenty of decent series for entertainment on the streaming services. And a few decent documentaries on some – plus there’s always YouTube (as horribly progressive as they are). Remember you don’t have to have a licence and still watch TV or a PC as long they aren’t live broadcasts.

      Nowadays I think the only ‘news’ from any of the main media outlets that might be worth a quick tune-in would be the outbreak of civil war. I’d love to hear them whining about why it all went wrong. Hopefully with audible gunfire in the background.


  33. pugnazious says:

    More Guardian, ideologically driven, fake news as it attacks the Telegraph claiming it has misreported Corbyn’s speech by saying Corbyn had called for a united Ireland.

    Here’s the Guardian ‘take-down’ attempt….

    This is what Jeremy Corbyn said in response to the final question, which was about whether he would back border poll as prime minister. He said:

    ‘That would be a decision that could be made within the terms of the Good Friday agreement. If that is the wish, then clearly such a poll would happen. I’m not asking for it, I’m not advocating it. What I’m asking for is a return to the fullness of the Good Friday agreement which would open up the opportunities and possibilities for the future of Ireland as whole.

    That is the point of the Good Friday agreement – not direct rule, not imposition of a political view from Westminster, but devolution of powers to Stormont here and of course the relationship with the Republic. And it is quite clear that it’s there for a poll on both sides of the border, should that be something that is demanded.’

    Corbyn is a longstanding supporter of Irish reunification, although since becoming Labour leader he has said little on this subject.

    His comment today, stressing that he would not be pushing for a border poll, seemed intended to correct a story on the front page of today’s Daily Telegraph. At a briefing yesterday Corbyn’s spokesman was asked if Corbyn still supported a united Ireland, as he did when he was a backbencher. The spokesman said that Corbyn had not changed his view, but that he accepted that unification would only happen in accordance with the procedure set out in the Good Friday agreement (which said the people of Northern Ireland would have to vote for this in a referendum.)

    By the time this ended up as the Telegraph splash, it became: “Corbyn calls for a united Ireland.”

    Trouble is the Telegraph report was about comments Corbyn had made previously and the report was published before the speech…so how the Guardian thinks it is a report on the speech given is beyond me…..the Telegraph report goes over previous comments and asks on the eve of the visit if he still held these views…answer…he does…..

    JEREMY CORBYN has been accused of “defying the will of the people” by expressing support for the unification of Ireland as he makes his first visit to Ulster as Labour leader.

    In an interview shortly after he became Labour leader, he said unification was an “aspiration that I have always gone along with”. Asked on the eve of his visit whether Mr Corbyn still held that view, his spokesman said that “over the years” he had “made his position clear that a majority of those people across the whole island of Ireland wanted to see that outcome”.

    They challenged him to meet the families of IRA murder victims and “listen to what they have to say” following his failure to apologise for his past support of the terrorist organisation.

    Mr Corbyn is to speak at Queen’s University Belfast

    Guardian=Fake news


  34. pugnazious says:

    The BBC reported this morning that Corbyn stated that any type of border between North and South in Ireland would ‘undermine peace in Northern Ireland’.

    Amazing how such statements are so casually accepted. Corbyn is essentially saying that if there is any type of border terrorism will start again in NI. He’s fully accepting that terrorism is a rational and justifiable response to a minor inconvenience of having to deal with some border bureaucracy, should there be any, and that the democratic vote for Brexit can be essentially oveturned by the threat of that violence.

    So can Brexiteers, should the democratically mandated Brexit be stopped and we remain in the EU, then mount a terrorist campaign to pressurise the government to fulfill its obligations?

    What if Boris came out and said he thought that stopping Brexit would undermine peace in the UK, meaning there would be a violent, terrorist response from Leave voters?
    Somehow can’t imagine the BBC et al taking that so calmly and reporting it as if such a reaction was only reasonable, justifiable and to be expected.
    Boris would be torn to pieces by the BBC for encouraging terrorism. But not Comrade Corbyn. Once again the terrorist leading the Labour Party gets a free pass.


    • wronged says:

      Spot on Pugnacious

      If someone murders your Mum or Dad you don’t give them an amnesty. Only a coward would do so. If your frightened of a bully they will bully you more. You square up to them face to face.

      For God’s May stand up for your country. Stuff the cameras. If Eire, the IRA or EU don’t like it.
      Tough get used to it.

      At the time of the ‘peace deal’. The IRA were finished and down to just 200 operatives according to MI5. They were squealing on each other., They couldn’t trust each other. Blair knew this and expoited it to the full.
      He gave the impression of ‘look at me, the peacemaker’. He then, wrongly, took us into the Iraq war where many young servicemen needlessly died as mentally, did their mum’s and dad’s at home.

      For God’s sake get Blair in prison while we still can.


      • Lobster says:

        Wasn’t it on Blair’s watch that the death penalty for treason was abolished? Funny, that ……….


        • G says:

          That was to do with the coming into force of the Human Rights Act.


  35. fakenewswatcher says:

    Obama knew all about Trump being spied on. Watch Bill Still 2246 and listen to Joe Di Genova explaining something much bigger than Watergate.
    DiGenova is always good to listen to, especially if you’ve been watching the BBC (or listening to R4),or reading the Guardian. A real pick-me-up after exposure to the trashy, toxic, treachery you’re likely to have received from the latter two ‘sources’. If Di Genova were Attorney-General, the Obama/Comey/Brennan clique would be in serious trouble…


  36. Fedup2 says:

    Al beeb 6pm news – Sopel – the beauty -sounding much happier than recently when leading on the failure of the North Korean summit .

    My 250/1 bet that they’d meet this year looks lost . That’s a 50p I won’t get back ( put it on last year ) .

    At least this story take the al beeb fixation with other events away for a bit .


  37. Beeb Brother says:

    I bet the BBC will be crowing over the cancelled summit with North Korea. It will be absolute proof that he is Hitler.

    I suspect Trump is playing 4D chess and this could be a bait and switch. The media will end up with egg on their faces again as they always do.


    • Fedup2 says:

      The guardian reports allegations of improper sexual conduct by everybody’s favourite black American president- Morgan freeman . Al beeb and the others comfortable going after some Hollywood types but I wonder if they’ll go after a popular black actor ?
      ( personally I thought he was great in Shawshank)


      • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

        I get the feeling that Freeman ( and good ol’ Denzel) aren’t particularly feted in Hollywood’s SJW world. Not that they’re out and out raging Republican supporters mind you, they’re just not overtly left wing enough and and have been around the block to see through the ‘hollywood so white’ race-baiting nonsense. To be fair, it isn’t looking all that good for Bill Cosby..


  38. BRISSLES says:

    I’m not going to write anything, because there will be a new thread started, and no one will read what I’ve got to say if I’m at the end of this one !!!!


    • LassloLasslo says:

      great post, and I’d like to add nothing to it. 😉


      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        And this is where the BBC places its news that it has to cover (by its charter) but would prefer you didn’t read.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Bris – I take the hint. This thread is at the 900 level so I proposing to start the weekend early – especially since there a bank holiday involved ( not that that counts of anything ).

      So any minute now – a new thread arrives….


      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        Hi Fedup2 – I admit I may have been wrong regarding the mid-week thread (but didn’t want you to over-work yourself). But since you have taken the helm the number of comments have been building up again.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Ok Broad – I’m trying to get the balance between the length of the thread and trying to not ‘bury’ contributions because of 24 hour al Beeb bias. The only time there’s no bias is when the Test Card is on but they’ll get round to that sooner of later..


  39. wronged says:

    I think you’ll find this is the last post


  40. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    No. This is the last post:


  41. MarkyMark says:

    Has the BBC ever lied to me …. YES.
    “Gavin Hewitt in 2015 replacing video with still photos to hide a nasty refugee pushing a pregnant female refugee and small child onto a train track, the BBC made it look like the border guards were being tough.”

    Has the BBC ever hidden news from me …. YES.
    “May 2018 the Day of Freedom march was not reported on the main website or the main news channel and is not available on the BBC £3.5bn online search page – other news agencies including the Guardian reported it.”

    Has the BBC kept the public in the dark …. YES.
    “We know that the UK MP expenses continues and should be investigated with the £3.5bn BBC New Service every year to keep the MPs on their toes, David Lammy bought a bike for £650 on expenses (Claim Ref:387540/17oct2014) which is blatant misuse of Tax Payer Money. How come the BBC don’t check up each year?”

    Has the BBC ignored politician’s lies …. YES.
    “UK Politicians are on TV shouting austerity and recession but all have taken an 18% pay increase from 2010 to 2018. How can they talk for the people when the live in their own bubble?”

    Has the BBC moved from news to social engineering …. YES.
    “By 2020, the BBC wants its employees to comprise 50% women, 8% disabled people, 8% lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender people and 15% people from black, Asian and ethnic minority backgrounds.{ 14sep2017}”

    Has the BBC let journalist break their guidelines …. YES.
    “Gary ‘£1.75m’ Lineker uses his twitter account to say Brexit is bad, EU is good. But not once has he confronted Jacob Rees-Mogg or Nigel Farage to talk about it. It is a one sided echo chamber.”


  42. JohnLucas says:

    The Manchester response has been dismissive and, of course, the Oasis Don’t Look Back in Anger public concert sing along was broadcast by the BBC. But who will be held responsible for these deaths, deaths of young innocent children caused by the failure of Mass Muslim migration policies of the left. It is the left in this country who have allowed young jihadis to become radicalised in this country through fear of political correctness. It is the left who have made being Muslim a superior being, a victim, they have made the problem worse as no one wants to be associated with these people! The left is entirely to blame, so as usual the BBC and the lefty luvvies working within it remain silent. But where is justice?