Long Weekend Open Thread 24 May 2019

The Far Left Pro EU Pro Islam BBC Cannot , by law , say anything which might influence voting in any part of the EU until 2200 on Sunday 26th . So it gives us the opportunity to record breaches of the law as the BBC makes unlawful comments .

Out Election Voting papers are in the hands of a pro remain civil service . Will the results be fiddled ?

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528 Responses to Long Weekend Open Thread 24 May 2019

  1. Guest Who says:

    Moves afoot.

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  2. Englishtothecore says:

    I heard something on the 7am Radio 4 news this morning on a segment regarding the elections, it was something along the lines of ‘400 million voters will be voting in the EU elections, which is the largest democratic practice in the world’. Why was it necessary to add that as if it was something to crow about?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Que ?? Isn’t the Indian election bigger ?

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      • Englishtothecore says:

        To be honest I was only half-listening to start with so I may have got the figure they quoted wrong, but I definitely heard ‘…which is the largest democratic practice in the world’. They obviously can’t get their facts right.

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    • G says:

      English,
      “Some people say” (BBC) that the largest democratic practice was the Indian elections just.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-48347081

      It’s also a lie as their own recent news headline proves:

      “More than 600 million people voted in a marathon six-week process.”

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  3. Roland Deschain says:

    “Will the results be fiddled?”

    Exactly what I’ve been asking myself. The fact that I can’t simply dismiss such an idea as preposterous says everything about the slide into the mire of Great Britain in the 21st century.

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    • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

      The left have had the prevailing ‘acceptable’ mores in mainstream culture twisted for their own devices for so long now. What was once black is now white etc.

      Given that all they generally do is lie I am now forced to err on the side of giving some credence to conspiracy theories, no matter how outlandish they might sound.

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    • popeye says:

      Ronald Deschain, totally agree. I voted yesterday taking a pen with me to mark the paper. I was gutted that, in a country I have lived in, loved and fought for, for over 70 years, I felt that my trust in its institutions had sunk so low that I suspected the corruption levels of the Third World may prevail. The liberal “elite” have a lot to answer for

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      • Doublethinker says:

        Completely agree. Our voting system was designed for the start of the last century not the present. It’s is wide open to abuse both through postal votes and at the polling station, let alone what may happen at the count. We have reached a point where if I lived in a large town or city I wouldn’t trust my fellow voters to obey the rules. Our society has become fractured, identity politics will be the ruin of us, and it is becoming acceptable to attack folks with non ‘liberal’ views , presently with milk shakes but who knows with what weapons next. The authorities seem to condone this or turn a blind eye.
        Our ‘liberal’ politicians seem unable to accept it when the people reject their brand of politics and then actively seek to overturn legitimate democratic election outcomes. Those politicians are trying to take us into the post democratic era when they want us to accept their Globalist liberal consensus and abdoned democracy altogether. The EU Parliament has no power to initiate legislation , this power , the life force of a democracy, is vested by design in the unelected European Commission . All that the parliament can do is to either rubber stamp the legislation proposed by the commission or ask them to think again.It is much more like the HoL than the HoC of old. What use is that in a democracy?

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        • G.W.F. says:

          We need CCCT cameras at the count, and covering all aspects relating to the ballot papers.

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  4. G says:

    BBC tell me that Treason May is expected to resign tomorrow. But she will remain at No.10 until a new PM is appointed. Question is, for her to remain in position, is there a caveat such that she makes no decisions? I see the danger. She is incapable of making decisions and could do immense damage if left to her own devices.

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    • Kaiser says:

      she wont resign until shes been in office longer than brown

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      ”She is incapable of making decisions”

      she is a traitor not incompetent

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      • Thoughtful says:

        She is very competent and you are missing what she is.

        Many people appear to be incapable of taking a tin of beans from the shelf, opening it and finding peaches inside, and yet still refusing to accept they are peaches because the label tells them it is a tin of baked beans!

        So it is with May who is an entryist Marxist – far to the left of Corbyn, she has acheived her mission of destroying the Tory party and bringing the country as close to her Marxist goal as she possibly can.

        Her last great act was to present her ‘turd’ of an withdrawl treaty to parliament in full knowledge of what was going to happen. No sane person with the future of their party in mind would do that, and May is not Insane.

        It is said by some that May is an empty vessel, devoid of personal conviction and belief, and that she is being manipulated by known Communist sympathiser Olly Robbins, however she was pretty much as bad when she was at the Home Office, the two together though represent an even more serious threat to the UK never mind the Tory party.

        It doesn’t matter now who they elect as leader the party is finished. Those who shouted about the dangers were ignored and over ruled by incompetent liberal leftists who should never have been in the party in the first place.

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  5. StewGreen says:

    New from Sargon : He recaps Labour’s connections to groom/rape gangs

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    • kingkp says:

      There is a theory out there that Jo Cox was killed because she never once spoke up about the rape, torture and murder of white underage girls by muslim jihadi rape gangs in her consitutency. Clearly she knew what was going on. So I shed no tears for her. Given what we know about Labour actively covering up this scandal for many years, the theory is far from way out there. The trial of Marr barely raised a ripple which is odd given how they were intent on demonising him a neo-nazi.

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      • Justin Casey says:
      • Demon says:

        imaynotalwaysloveyou mentions that he is giving a little credence to the possibility of some conspiracy theories. I have always dismissed most as the obvious ballcocks they are, however the Jo Cox murder looks very suspicious.

        Clearly she was murdered and whatever her shortcomings as a politician it was a tragedy. But some argue that the man doing time for the crime is just a poor sap who was framed. The links below are worth considering.

        At first I believed the story as told on the “news” but I thought it strange that everybody who knew the “killer” said he had never uttered a single political comment in his life. Not the sort of person who would get so enraged by a no-mark MP that he would resort to murder. The next thing was that people on here sent details of a few examples of other young, telegenic, rising stars of the left who were murdered at crucial times in election campaigns which boosted the left-wing votes. When I stumbled across the above I was shocked that it made sense in a way that conspiracy theories rarely do.

        I have to accept the official story as true because I personally know nothing about it, and all conspiracy theories omit facts that don’t support the hypothesis. Although I have to wonder when seeing the links. Look at the first link first.

        http://sonarz.com/was-jo-coxs-murder-a-conspiracy-we-think-so-and-heres-why/

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        • The General says:

          No I don’t think this is credible. One major inconsistency is stating that the person being interviewed by the police was not Mair even though as shown in that interview he quite clearly has the injury to the head which was shown as being sustained when Mair was being taken down in the cul de sac. The video commentary clearly states that the person in the cul de sac was definately Mair.
          You can’t help agreeing however that the two police men being interviewed were pathetic and embarrassingly cringe worthy.

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    • jip says:

      The video was consigned to Orwells memory hole, because it was the truth.

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      • Annunaki says:

        Certain people should burn in hell for this if true

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      • jip says:

        The video is now back, but is tagged as “unlisted”. Youtube does not want you to know about this because they support Islamic child rape, its as simple as that.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Stew Green
      Vid of Sargon

      Video unavailable.

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    • NCBBC says:

      This is a Muslim problem and not merely a Pakistani one. The same kind of behaviour- soliciting young non-Muslim girls, and rape of non-Muslim women, is evident in Europe, particularly Nordic countries. As usual the police is not keen to investigate or prosecute, for fear of the charge of “racism”. Or thats what they say.

      It is futile blaming Muslims for what is happening in the UK, be it “honour” killings, the extension of shari’a by stealth, hatred being preached in mosques, and the continuous threat of terrorism from within, leading to harsher security measures by the state on all of us. Muslims are doing what they are required to do as required by their religion. No, the fault lies with us. And if we didn’t know this would happen, then that is our failure.

      Once we admit that, the solution too lies within our hands, ie separation from Islam.

      http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/006250.html

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    • Banania says:

      Carl Benjamin is regularly demonized on political broadcasts by people who evidently have taken no trouble to find out anything about him. It happened again this morning on Politics Live.

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Plensih Drinks got ratioed on Twitter
    (If you don’t know what that means. Look it up )
    #FamousLeftyTolerance
    https://twitter.com/PlenishDrinks/status/1131498615455793152

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    • jip says:

      I was just wondering if you threw pigs blood at that Muslim who threw milkshake at Tommy Robinson if that would be ok?

      Then i remembered Kevin Crehan left a bacon sandwich outside a Mosque, and he was thrown in prison and wound up dead for his “crime”.

      So probably pigs blood on a Muslim is not ok, but milkshake thrown on someone who dislike Islamic child rape is fair game.

      Its almost like there is some hypocrisy here… but i just can’t put my finger in it.

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    • Demon says:

      I would love to avail myself of her milkshakes, take a couple and pour them all over her.

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    • Vonbedda says:

      is it just me that would go up to this girl and take all the milkshakes and walk off – open each one and tip em down the drain – any complaints – she said they were free, no one told me what I had to do with them!

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  7. StewGreen says:

    Libmob lashout at old volunteer
    ..supporters already pledge £3,200 to replace his suit
    \\ It appears Mr MacNaughton wants to donate his money to a charity – the parachute regiment.

    I haven’t spoken with him directly yet but it’s for him to do as he pleases so I hope you’re as happy as me that he’s a giver //

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  8. TrueToo says:

    One of Pat Condell’s best videos is Brexit Morons. It’s a bit dated, but still totally relevant with his incisive take on the battle over Brexit, with occasional cutting humour like this, referring to Remoaners:

    “They say they are ashamed to be British: we are ashamed that they are British.”

    I can always rely on Pat to get me angry at injustice but also to cheer me up.

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  9. taffman says:

    “European elections 2019: EU citizens turned away from UK polls.”
    “EU citizens living in the UK have told of their anger after they were unable to vote in the European elections.”
    Why should they be angry ? This was Great Britain’s vote for independence and democracy .
    They were not British citizens .
    Simples.

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    • taffman says:

      Will the EU use this as an excuse to call for another vote , ” A people’s vote” ?

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  10. Dystopian says:

    Refreshing to see pro Brexit members in QT audience as well as people sticking up for Tommy Robinson. A woman even managed to mention the fact that police escorted “Asian” thugs to Tommy Robinson event and threw bricks at children (“Asians” not police!).

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    • taffman says:

      Dystopian
      That’s Al Beeb being worried, very worried.
      Their end is nigh.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        It seems that the fund to get the old chap who was campaigning for The Brexit Party during polling dry cleaned following an attack using milk shakes has succeeded .

        It has hit £14000 . He has said that he will donate the £13970? To an appropriate charity – perhaps the charity for Gavin Esler career counselling

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        • StewGreen says:

          @Fedup the page is only £5,067 NOT £14K
          Twitter appeared to say it reached £14K then fell back to £3K after anti-Brexiteers started to make the claim that it was faked and offered the CCTV man’s tweet as evidence
          .. That CCTV man tweet was 99% surely *spoof*

          Last night I could’ve taken 1000 screenshots
          of libmob tweeters saying
          “You thickos believed the BrexitParty veteran in Aldershot was milkshaked
          but this tweet from a shopkeeper saying he has CCTV
          proves the veteran did it himself”
          Projection is a libmob characteristic

          Don’s video statement

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  11. Kaiser says:

    so “jack” original forename not available monroe is on news night tonight

    Described as coming from a working-class background,

    Monroe was born in Southend-on-Sea to David Hadjicostas, MBE

    with insufficient GCSEs to progress to A-level

    “she” as referred to by A Neil to day former she he she mother bisexual lesbo “they” now she

    so why would we be interested in the position of someone who apparently cant even make their own bloody mind up

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  12. Kaiser says:

    bbc news has a sister of one of the birmingham 21 victims

    the beeboid is asking no grilling her on how she can expect “justice” after so long what can she possibly expect

    its funny I remember the bbc celebrating the release of the original “guilty” men , the victory for justice

    I note their glee when some 89-90 German is finally being brought to justice

    finally catching up with an IRA bomber though ooohh no no no thats way toooo difficult and pointless

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  13. jip says:

    The anti-British BBC, in typical style, just can’t pass up an opportunity to browbeat the British public in to submission… as we see in this nasty little article: “Chagos Islands dispute: UN backs end to UK control”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48371388

    Diverse employee Nada Tawfik of the BBC, first gives us her opinion that the “dispute was at its heart a matter of decolonisation”, the BBC of course just has to tell us the virtues of “decolanzation”, whether its decolanizing education, decolanizing Science, or decolanizing the UK of its native population, as we know by the loud cheers when the native English population in London dropped to 45% in 2011.

    We then get told that “The vote was decisive” with “116 states were in favour and only six against”… “Fifty-six states, including France and Germany, abstained”, However “The US, Hungary, Israel, Australia and the Maldives were the states voting with the UK against the resolution.”.

    Doesn’t this just tell us who our friends in this world are?, and it isn’t the f***ing EU as the BBC would have us believe, or states like Pakistan who get endless UK “foreign aid” money while they persecute Christians like Asia Bibbi, and ex-British servicemen are homeless.

    And did you notice the extra snide Britain-hating, surrender-monkey comment in that BBC quote?

    Yes, the BBC call the Falkland islands “The Maldives”… in a snide wink to people who would undermine the UK in every way possible, the BBC prove yet again that they are parasites intent on undermining and killing this nation… and in reversing yet another democratic vote by the Falkland islanders who voted to stay with the UK when asked a few years ago.

    Of course in reality the Chagos Islands islands, as well as the Falkland islands are hundreds of miles way from anywhere, and were never part of the countries claiming sovereignty… because those countries never existed at that time…. But the BBC just can’t pass up the opportunity to jam another rusty needle into the seeping abscess they have created in order to demoralize this country in to submission.

    Of course, in reality s**thole countries, need to divert attention from their own failings, and what better way than to bang on about tiny islands hundreds of miles away, that were never part of their countries anyway… but of course the diverse traitors at the BBC are all to happy to surrender without a shot, and help destroy the fabric of British society through a drip-drip of such cancerous and evil propaganda.

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    • Justin Casey says:

      I can`t wait for the UN (based in the USA) make a direct demand to Donald Trump that he remote the strategically important US Air Base from there… Bear in mind the statement made by his UN representative regarding the blatant anti American bias and the withdrawel of itrs` special status, its` funding and the protections it has being in New York….. Also all of thos pi$$ant sh1thole countries who voted need to remember who currently gives them security wherever they are across the globe, especially the Maldives… It`s nowhere near the islands but is within reach of the most corrupt and wartorn area of the sub-Saharan African continent… That airbase is there for a reason, also the natives were compensated some with a passport and the rest a new home on islands which could support their tiny population the islnd was unable to do this hence it remained a protectorate for so long… the Maldives only just manages to support itself from tourism, but for decades it relied on foriegn aid and also British Goodwill who cartried on funding the islands years after it gained independant status…

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    • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

      Who doesn’t know the difference between the Republic of the Maldives, the island state in the Indian Ocean, and Las Malvinas, the Spanish name for what is the Falklands in English? I’d be careful who you are calling “our friends” if I were you: the Maldives is an oppressive Muslim state.

      You are perfectly entitled to your views on the BBC but I trust you’ll be retracting that particular slur based on a factual error.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Maldives vs Malvinas
        Big error @Jip,
        Always be careful when posting at 2 o’clock in the morning
        that was a big jump to conclusion.
        AFAIK The Maldives just changed back to the Climate alarmist PM
        after the previous regime used repression to keep his side down

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      • jip says:

        Ok so i made an error on that, however the comments about the BBC “decolanization” propaganda still stands. As does the fact that the US, Australia will have our back any day over the BBC’s beloved EU, or any of these other ‘113’ states that the Britain-hating BBC holds as moral examples to browbeat the British public.

        This article is a demoralization piece from the BBC, pure and simple, and that disgusting organization still needs shutting down.

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  14. Guest Who says:

    BBC moaning emole, complete with ‘critics are saying’:

    “Is Facebook undermining democracy in Africa?

    Facebook is under fire in Africa for undermining democracy, with critics saying the social media giant has allowed its platform to be weaponised for co-ordinated misinformation campaigns. The role of false news has taken centre stage in every single one of the continent’s eight national polls this year – and last week Facebook said an Israeli political consultancy was behind much of it. It banned the Archimedes Group, which it said was responsible for a network of those masquerading as African nationals. But Nanjira Sambuli, from the World Wide Web Foundation, says it has taken Facebook too long to pay attention to this problem in developing countries.

    Read full analysis >

    Larry Madowo
    BBC Africa business editor

    *****

    There is a certain irony to Larry relying on this : “… last week Facebook said…” in “much of” Larry’s ‘analysis’.

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  15. Guest Who says:

    I wonder what she leaves at the door?

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    • vlad says:

      On the plus side, if Ms Claire and the rest of the bbc staff do go on strike we’ll have at least one day without lies and propaganda.

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  16. taffman says:

    Are we out yet ?
    Has she gone yet ?
    Al Beeb you better brace yourselves when the answer to both questions is in the affirmative.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Taffman
      Thankful for your thanks .
      Mrs May wants to stay on so that she can ‘do’ the D day commemorations and be on The Big Stage again along with President Trump – and be a national embarrassment at such a precious event .

      ( I bet they’ll be rerunning the history of D Day as though the only ones there were Americans )

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    • vesnadog says:

      taff,

      Saw a brief picture of a miserable looking Greive traitor on BBC news this morning. He looked and sounded like the man who is completely “downcast” because his only chance to remain in the EU (may) is on her way out.

      Yippee!!!

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  17. Guest Who says:

    I wonder if the BBC will ever put him in the same room as Greta?

       45 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      The point is Greta is a vulnerable child. The manipulating adults behind her are the ones who should be exposed by argument.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Agreed. Which is why they put up Greta. And the BBC plays along.

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    • Old Goat says:

      Greta is a witch, a sorceress. She will turn all those she dislikes, into invertebrates (mind you, some of them already are…) – you can see it in her CO2-fogged swedish eyes.

         23 likes

  18. JamesArthur says:

    Anyone see the shadow education sec this morning on BeeB?
    My wife looked at me and said – WTF..not only did she not look professional she sounded pretty dumb…and for her to be the Shadow Education Sec astounded me – even for the Labour party – then I looked at her background..basically no real education then to Union role before Labour (female only short list)…we are truly doomed when this is the calibre of people making decisions…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      James
      Angie Rayner is good value . When she went in front of Brillo and got asked questions to which she should know the answer she used to get so flustered it was comedy . She admitted to ‘not doing numbers ‘ – bit like Diane Abbott .

      Seriously though – the thought that these Corbyn types could get power is pretty frightening but hopefully they are so dumb that nothing would get done .

      There is nothing better than a government which doesn’t work so that it allows people to get on with their lives without more freedoms being taken away…

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, “She admitted to ‘not doing numbers ‘ – bit like Diane Abbott.”

        Oh, Diane does numbers.

        Boy, does Diane do numbers! As long as they are big ones. The bigger the better. The bigger numbers are all the bestest of all to bash the Tories over the head!

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  19. Foscari says:

    I was wondering yesterday if I should make a comment about
    Tommy Robinson advising potential voters for him to use
    a black pen when making a cross on the ballot paper and not
    use a pencil.
    Surely” the establishment” would not attempt to rig the results
    of an election ? But after watching Question Time last night when
    that courageous lady , to dead silence from the audience and
    panelists told how the police allowed a Muslim rioting gang to
    attack those attending a Tommy Robinson election meeting , well
    away from the Muslim area of Oldham, with bottles and bricks.
    All I will say is that I expect is for Robinson to be elected by a
    landslide or to be defeated by a landslide.
    The few bookies betting on the outcome make it a 50-50 result.
    But as somebody being involved in betting on football for 50 years
    I can’t forget that in 2002 the World Cup was fixed with some
    of the hierarchy of the organizers being very much involved.
    I am sure Fedup 2 that those responsible for counting the vote
    will do their duty. Don’t you?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Foscari
      I am both a pessimist and cynic so I expected the original referendum vote to be fixed – particularly since Project Fear even bought in St Obama to threaten us .

      But the structure of the vote made it difficult to fix . This one is far easier because the State has our votes for 3 whole days before the vote is announced .

      Don’t get me wrong – I’m not saying this in order to provide forward defence for the Brexit Party not doing as well as expected .

      I just have little faith in a system which could fix the vote and an MSM and bubble not interested in looking too closely at a ‘remain ‘ outcome if it is corrupt .

      It could be that non British counters who are used to corruption in their own countries see no problem with grabbing bunches of Brexit Party votes and dumping them out of the count .

      As an aside …. guess who humph interviews on Toady at 0810 – The traitor Ken Clarke – who apparently used to be a Tory –

      And when the’ Any Question ‘ panel was announced I near choked in surprising disbelieve

      Paul mason
      Gina Miller
      Anthony seldon
      Someone called ‘Cheryl ‘ who works for the Telegraph.

      3 traitors and a no one remainer ….. par for the Biased BBC course .

      Won’t be listening – never will .

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, it is also at a Yoooni – in the Midlands – Aston University in Birmingham.

        Q.What are the possibilities of a stacked, LeftyLibby-biased audience?

        A.10/10.

        First Class Honours degree for Snuffy, please … 🙂

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Up2
          Yes I forgot that – it might even be worth listening too just to hear the Group Think . What – 95% with the same ‘mind set ‘ ?

          As an aside —- I nearly went to Aston Yoonee as a child but so glad I didn’t .

          Snuffy – have a treble first on me —- PPE and student bar …

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        • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

          Aston University majors heavily on engineering and technology. I don’t believe it offers a Bachelor of Arts degree. I thought you guys approved of that sort of thing. It helps to check facts before going off on one.

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          • G.W.F. says:

            WildWomanOfThe Woods

            Aston University majors heavily on engineering and technology. I don’t believe it offers a Bachelor of Arts degree. I thought you guys approved of that sort of thing. It helps to check facts before going off on one.
            ——————————
            Try this. Facts checked. Aston Univ offers this
            Gender, Sexualities and the Body
            Gender Sexuality Body Large Square
            The Gender, Sexualities and the Body research stream of CCISC brings together established and early career researchers whose theoretical perspectives are informed by feminist and queer perspectives and a commitment to social justice. Collaboration between scholars within the stream is aimed at developing theoretically and methodologically innovative ways of exploring the intersections between gender, sexualities, and the body. Current events hosted by the stream include a pan-university reading group – the Feminist Café – which provides an informal space for staff and students to conceptual and political issues relevant to contemporary feminism.

            https://www2.aston.ac.uk/lss/research/lss-research/ccisc/gender-sexualities-and-the-body

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            • Rob in Cheshire says:

              However did we manage before we had degree courses like this? Definitely 50 grand well spent.

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            • G says:

              GWF,
              Maybe Wild Woman thinks that ‘Gender, Sexualitites & the body’ is, Engineering? Either body or brain. Could have a point.

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          • Banania says:

            “You guys.” What category is that? (Are you filling in for Maxincony – i.e are there two of you?)

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      • vesnadog says:

        Fed,

        “Paul mason
        Gina Miller
        Anthony seldon
        Someone called ‘Cheryl ‘ who works for the Telegraph”

        Don’t worry too much Fed their time on their generous “retainers” at BBC/SKY News will no doubt soon be coming to an end as they won’t be of any real use to both TV-trash-companies – even the silly man outside parliament with that weird hat on knows full well any chance of convincing the country/New PM to remain in the EU has been and gone.

        Brown will never sleep nights. Yippee!

        Blair will be checking himself into his private hospital. Yippee!!

        Greive will most likely move to his beloved EU now. Yippee!!

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  20. Oaknash says:

    Brilliant video – and well worth a look as regards TR and his stance on Islam. There are also some very brave ex muslims out there and this guy has all of my respect.
    I recommend you view it quickly before Utube take it down as these days truth is hate.

       43 likes

    • vlad says:

      Brave man.

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    • Old Goat says:

      Mme. Goat doesn’t like ‘Tony’ Robinson – she can’t give a reason why, but he’s just a “horrible” man.

      Likewise with Donald Trump. She can’t stand him either, but is unable to give reasons.

      She knows nothing about either, or about their politics.

      Mind you, I’ve noticed that especially with the few British (and one American) ex-pats that there are around here, and with the Dutch, too. All left wing, all hate Trump, nationalism and populism, and love the EU, and all unable to give credible reasons – they even get heated when one broaches the subject.

      So I often feel a little isolated…

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      • Mrs Kitty says:

        You should drop down to our little part of France, there is a growing group of proud far- right knuckle draggers flying the English flag and we have an EUSSR flag ready to burn. Many of the new recruits are ex Remainers who are disgusted by the EUSSRs attitude and who have had their eyes opened by all the bile thrown at the UK.

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      • Helen Richardson says:

        I really hate to admit it but this is an overwhelmingly female reaction. Not exclusively, but overwhelmingly.

        I despair at the number of female friends who vote according to who they “like”, as if they were making up a dinner party guest list. It doesn’t bloody matter.

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  21. JamesArthur says:

    Anyone listening to Ken Clarke R4 – the right wing in Tories are to blame for everything and slagging off Nigel F…..then British Steel closing due to Brexit and tariffs, Honda closing down for same reason – he basically just telling lies and not a single challenge from BBC..he is a blathering idiot…

       60 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      James
      Clarke really is an example of why Parliament is a joke . If I recall he has been an MP since …1970 ? I’ll write that again -1970…. How can he have any idea of how non politicians live ? How he and his type have ruined british by importing The Third World – European- African – Asian or otherwise …. ?

         45 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Sorry I’ve really got to repeat this Ken Clarke – real name Kenneth Clarke – has been an MP since 1970 …. how old were you then ?

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      • vesnadog says:

        Fed,

        “Clarke.”

        For some reason he is quite fond of Cuba?

        A clue: he puts it in his mouth.

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      • JamesArthur says:

        FedUp
        To be honest whilst I agree with you.. It’s the fact that he seems to have lost all sense of reality and just lies and beeB just let him…
        On a rant point
        Somebody made a point earlier that I think has got lost in this Brexit shite – people like me were too young to vote for going into EU and have had to live with it..so why shouldn’t we have the right to vote to leave – so stick that up your – Remainers who use the Yoof didn’t get a choice argument

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        • Fedup2 says:

          James – you are wrong – Britain voted to join the common market . I was 13 . I thought it a great idea . No more European civil wars with Blighty getting involved . It was a big lie .

          Heath knew what the aspiration was – a European united statelets and that’s where we are …. soon … if we don’t get out of it – despite the bbc and it’s traitor bubble .

             16 likes

          • JamesArthur says:

            FedUp
            Apologies…it should have been EC….I can only put it down to my sadness that Treason May was about to resign 🙂

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  22. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1

    Remainer Central – again! – on the TODAY prog this a.m..

    Gus McDonnell

    Damien Green

    Ken Clarke

    – – –

    To be fair, keen (and young) Brexiteer, Suella Braverman MP was mentioned and contributed an audio clip but it was short and solely dealing with the PM’s possible resignation.

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  23. vesnadog says:

    BBC TV News this morning:

    BBC business reporter talking with the out going CEO of WHSmith.

    BBC reporter: And what will you do with all your time after your time at WHS?

    WHSmith CEO – oh, thats easy; me and my HUSBAND…..

    BBC simply cannot resist every opportunity to promote Gay marriage. I actually think the discussion was specially arranged by the BBC simply to promote gay marriage – the other stuff they spoke about was useful to no one.

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  24. Fedup2 says:

    Ves
    Good for them . But in Fed world there is no such thing as homosexual marriage . Marriage is something between male and female . Anything else is something else – call it ‘gay arrangement ‘.

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  25. Fedup2 says:

    I wouldn’t ordinarily do this but can I commend to you an excellent obituary of the PM drafted by Quentin Letts in The Sun today . He has linked it from his twitter account . A hugely entertaining death notice .

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  26. andyjsnape says:

    the beeb – far left – all so perfect

    the beeb – far right – sooooooooooooooo bad

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  27. Doublethinker says:

    Just a reminder that as the runners are under starters orders to replace PM May, every single one of them is pro continued third world immigration in one form or another. Indeed in order to appease the strong liberal tendency in the Tory party all of them are likely to parade their inclusive diverse beliefs. Getting out of The EU doesn’t address this existentialist issue. It does give the Globalist elite a good kicking , which is good to see, but does nothing to combat the key issue of our time.

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  28. Thoughtful says:

    Not yet on the BBC news but I have heard it in broadcasts, of how Ed Milliband failed to realise the effects dragging her out to support his leadership affected her. He is of course spun as the caring husband who was simply too ‘in the moment’ to be able to realise. If he was a Tory he would have been spun as uncaring and ignorant of his wife in typical patriarchal fashion.

    There is however a different view of this.
    All he is expressing is the great failure of leftist ‘thinking’. Blunder ahead without thinking about the effects and consequences until it’s too late. Its now nearly 5 years since he resigned, and it’s taken this long for him to realise?

    Look at Maraget Beckett and the other ‘morons’ who nominated Jeremy Corbyn in an act of unbelievable stupidity to ‘broaden the debate’ whilst failing to see that he might ever get elected.

    There are hundreds if not thousands of other examples of the leftist mindset – act first think later.

    These are people standing for election and their policy decisions are no different. If they can’t recognise the effects on nearest & dearest, then what hope is there for the people when Labour get into power?

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Thoughtful….unfortunately we have too many MPs who are either ignorant, arrogant or both and it is the latter group who are the worst..Milliband is towards the high end of arrogant and thinks we actually care about his opinions

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  29. gb123 says:

    Re: Treezer Quisling Chamberlain.
    Media reports she is going. I will not believe it until I see it. On her pervious form we will be given a withdrawal from PM agreement. This will be a resignation in name only followed by a transition period of xxxx years, followed by it being scrapped due to lack of support and a second Tory party election.

       19 likes

    • gb123 says:

      Typo pervious = previous. Although allowing water to pass through could be an analogy for ignoring the voters.

         7 likes

      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        gb123
        pervious sounds correct to me, all May’s actions on Brexit were perverted.

        Now let’s have her in court, then jail.

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  30. StewGreen says:

    From Support Our Lefty

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  31. Fedup2 says:

    Not BBC but at 0958 Friday – the PM is about to go live to announce she is finally going – or not ….

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  32. Fedup2 says:

    TRAITOR MAY HAS GONE ON 7 JUNE

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    • JamesArthur says:

      FedUp
      yep she has – she is actually making quite a good speech..which is what she is good at – making pointless speeches when she doesn’t have to do anything….a sound bite at best

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    • Kaiser says:

      and we are leaving the EU on the 29th March, I will keep the champers on ice till she is actually gone

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  33. taffman says:

    Gone.
    Next ?
    “Brexit means Brexit” .
    Over to Al Beeb……………………………..

       17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Yes!!! She blubbed at the End !

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      • Not Gwent says:

        Cameron did it better.

        May was undone by trying to push through a deal that didn’t work for her political partners nor for the whole of her party.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Some might say it’s heartless to enjoy another’s distress – nah not for her – she made our country a joke and treated Brussels with a respect it never deserves ..

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        • Not Gwent says:

          It’s just my opinion though if after a referendum that says ‘leave’ we elect a parliament that says ‘remain’ then porridge is the inevitable result.

          Three years on and it seems to me there are three possibilies

          Agree May deal – Seems impossible after three goes though EU says stick.
          Leave with no deal – Parliament says no.
          General Election – At which Labour will again fight on ‘social issues’ and stay fuzzy on EU membership.

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          • Eddy Booth says:

            labour, conservative and I think the lib dems campaigned to honour the referendum result in the snap election.
            So we didn’t elect a Parliament that says remain , we just ended up with one

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            • feargal the cat says:

              Con and Lab campaigned to honour the EU Referendum result in GE17, hence they gleaned 82% of the votes. The Lib Dims stood against Brexit, scraped 8 seats and ended up with that old fool Cable as their ‘leader’.

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        • davylars says:

          Schadenfreude Is the word you are looking for.
          It’s German of course.

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      • theisland says:

        “She blubbed” – possibly because hubby Phil’s promised bonus from the EU is now in jeopardy.

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        • Not Gwent says:

          They both miscalculated. Cameron on the referendum result and May on her deal.

          The only problem is the EU are actually delighted with the deal they agreed with May. Get around that one Bercow & Co.

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          • Eddy Booth says:

            how did May miscalculate?
            we are still firmly stuck in the EU as she planned.
            She knew full well the deal would not get voted for, but enable her can kicking pantomime.

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      • Cassandra says:

        MayCry.jpg

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    • gb123 says:

      When I see Larry standing at the door of waving goodbye and don’t come back I will know it has actually happened.

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  34. Annunaki says:

    Another racist murder likely to be ignored by the BBC

    White South African farm activist is beaten to death at her home in horrifying hammer attack

    Annette Kennealy, 51, was beaten to death on her farm in Limpopo
    A male suspect, 40, has been arrested and will appear before court
    Kennealy was publicly outspoken about attacks on white Afrikaner farmers

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7066015/White-South-African-farm-activist-beaten-killed-murdered.html

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    • Helen Richardson says:

      Katie Hopkins has also been covering this.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Funny how Katie Hopkins cover a wider range of significant news items than the thousands of well paid researchers and auto cue readers in the BBC

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    • vlad says:

      As the racist beeb won’t do it, let’s do their work for them, shall we?

      Many thousands have been tortured / raped / murdered in a racist genocide, but you’d never know it from the beeb or our politicians.

      President Trump however IS speaking out, once again going where the lily-livered liberals look away.

      DpTjUhuWkAAiZ18.jpg

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  35. fakenewswatcher says:

    Annu- in the unlikely event that the bbc picks this up, I doubt it will have a programme on the context of such now daily events. They are all -in fact- ‘racist’ murders, often preceded by rape and/or extreme torture.
    The bbc will avoid these incidents like the plague, as they would completely undermine its agenda and narrative with regard to race and ‘hate’. They daren’t mention numbers, or show acres of white crosses of the butchered. So best to pretend it’s not happening. Now there is a Conservative leader election coming up, that will be so much easier.
    There is really a big story here, and it is clear that deliberate and probably explicit bbc policy is to ‘look away’, look away, look away…

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  36. smoogie7 says:

    Theresa May has just resigned.

    Here comes the biased coverage over the leadership challenge where anyone who is firmly on the right and a strong hard Brexiteer will be snarled at by any BBC journalist who might tremble at the thought of No Deal possibly being put back on the table

       24 likes

    • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

      Disappointed she hasn’t been forced out today rather than 7 June. There’s still plenty of time for more of her treasonous mischief until she is replaced.

         20 likes

      • smoogie7 says:

        Two weeks is a long time in politics I guess!

        Oh well at least it is only two weeks and not another three years

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    • Kaiser says:

      welcome back smoogie where you been hiding

      I see its not even 11am yet a the BBC managed to get a pundit to describe boris as a man who says racist things and doesnt like muslims

      that didnt take long did it, we know he the BBC dont want as a replacement

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    • Kaiser says:

      welcome back smoogie where you been hiding

      I see its not even 11am yet a the BBC managed to get a pundit to describe boris as a man who says racist things and doesnt like muslims

      that didnt take long did it, we know he the BBC dont want as a replacement

         9 likes

      • smoogie7 says:

        I had to take a break from things as the whole Theresa May thing was getting depressing and I was sick of the bias from the BBC of course. The sad thing is with Bojo putting his name down the bias will only get worse in the months to come so expect a nasty smear aimed at him.

        They will all miss May when she is gone!

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  37. vlad says:

    So farewell then Theresa.

    You tried.

    And you failed.

       19 likes

  38. Mackers says:

    I’ve just been watching an interview of Marine le pen with Nigel farage. She speaks very well and shares similar views with Donald trump and Nigel .She praises the historical liberalism of anglo saxon influence. On two points i differ , firstly and less importantly the majority bloodline still remains an ancient briton since the roman era,there have been Jutes and Normans in small numbers but what gave us are now name was larger tribes of pagan Angles and Saxons . Secondly and most important that unfortunately gets overlooked by our politicians is not that we’re anglo saxon it’s that we are christian protestants who left the corrupt catholic church. In no way am i saying anything bad about individual catholic worshippers. This godly influence is the reason for all the benefits of the so called anglo saxon world. What we need to do for our country’s sake is to get back to church and to start praising and worshipping our creator almighty god and our saviour jesus christ the messiah, then we can go back to reaping all the benefits. It’s really quite simple when you know god.

       25 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Mackers -.agree – the BBC likes doing the tired old lie about church going declining . Well my church in London isn’t dying -it’s growing . I help with the collection each week so I see the numbers on paper .
      The BBC is possessed by evil – just look at what it promotes .

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  39. Helen Richardson says:

    Not generally a fan of SKY, little different from the BBC most of the time but, credit where credit’s due, they reported in moderate detail on the sick “scoreboard” game where the scoreboard “gives 50 points for a wound to the head, 30 points for the chest, 20 for the stomach, 10 for the leg, and 5 for the arm”.

    My initial thought was “probably part of London, Manchester, or perhaps Leeds or Birmingham”. Then I heard: “Last month four young men from Ipswich were sentenced to life in prison for murder, having previously made a YouTube video about “scoring points” against a gang from a different postcode in the Suffolk town”.

    Ipswich? May’s failure is not just about Brexit, it’s about virtually everything that the Conservatives used to stand for, like law and order. Then there’s the failure of the MSM, and the cowardice of the middle classes in particular, to face up to what is really going on on several fronts.

    A change of Conservative PM will not be enough. And don’t get me started on Labour.

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  40. Beltane says:

    I know politicians don’t tell the truth, that’s axiomatic, but what a golden opportunity Theresa missed.
    What a note to go out on, if only she had detailed the deliberate humiliations, the prevarication and duplicity inherent throughout her many visits to Brussels. The blame is always sited within parliament, and so to a large extend it has been. But what about the enforced waits in corridors until the small hours of the morning while the commission pretend to discuss Brexit, the pizza slices eaten outside while her ‘peers’ finish their five-course dinners, the unannounced schedule changes, the closed doors, the pretence and distain, the diminution and condescension.
    All the outrageous treatment of the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom she has suffered on our behalf – even though some may have been her own fault – it has been her office that has borne the insults, that is what should not be forgotten.
    And what an opportunity for Trump, during the D-Day celebrations, to make these same points. Could he do it? Well if anyone could – enraged by the EU’s utter failure to pay its NATO dues – it’s the Don.

       33 likes

    • Navets says:

      Beltane
      Your analysis hits the nail right on the head. I have just read Yanis Varoufakis’ book “Adults in the Room” which lifts the lid on all of the tricks of the EU’s so called negotiators and how the MSM licks their spittle repeating lies and inaccuracies spouted by them.
      A lot of analysis I am reading about the faiure of Theresa May seems to be blind to all of the back stage shenanigans.
      Theresa May could have done us all a favour by detailing what has really gone on behind closed doors. That she has chosen not to is, in my view, a product of her lack of real desire for this country to leave the EU.

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  41. Not Gwent says:

    I see that State Broadcaster is doing a feature today titled “how can I help to fight climate change?”

    OK if this isn’t bias then I don’t know what else is.

    On the side of the people?

    Take money from all promote the views of some.

       23 likes

  42. tarien says:

    There will be one hell of a task for whomever eventually takes the role of PM. Most probably not the most popular person to be our Prime Minister, but for the moment Boris Johnson is the man needed to pull Britain out of the EU, taking no dam nonsence from those in Brussels, able to negotiate with vigour and honesty on our behalf with the World and with Europe. He may not be a lasting Premier but one we need at this moment. Not necessarily would most of his cabinet be ‘Leavers’ but the wets he would certainly get rid of. Britain needs to show a strong face as once we did, when our backs were up against the wall.

       23 likes

  43. Fiter says:

    Regardless of Theresa Mays back sliding and duplicitous behaviour, i was genuinely upset to see her cry. Lets hope Leave really does mean Leave this time, First time post LOL

       18 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      Welcome, Fiter.
      There are many more deserving of your sympathy such as Tommy Robinson’s kids when he is dragged off to prison on trumped up charges. May could have stopped this but failed in that also.

         26 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Fiter
      Welcome aboard . I’m glad we differ on the PM blubbing . I thought it was high comedy. I’ve run out of popcorn as well .

      She sounded a bit like Ron Burgundy . I m sure she’ll get a really good job in the ReichEU as a reward for the sell out .

      The BBC is meant to avoid issues around the EU elections until 2200 Sunday but judging by what I’ve just seen with the coburg politics show .

      I’m sure the pro EU electoral commission will investigate .

         18 likes

      • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

        We had Cameron sauntering away from the lectern humming a jaunty tune, and now May giving a wretched self-serving turn with fake emotion bewailing the fact that she hadn’t fully managed to screw the country over before her time was up.

        What piece of political kabuki will Boris provide when it’s his turn? Not that I care, the Tories are a spent force and deserve all the ‘wilderness years’ coming to them.

           9 likes

    • Kaiser says:

      she couldnt shed a tear or show much empathy for the victims of the manchester bomb, london bridge attack, policeman killed defending MPs , grenfell tower

      yet she cries for theresa may who has lost her position, not even her job she is still an MP

      O boo hoo woman

      you were trying to lead us into a trap from which there was no escape , to prove leaving was impossible and inevitably leading to rejoining and were prepared to give away £39bn of OUR money to do it.

      Good Bl**dy riddance

         27 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      Fiter,

      “Leave really does mean Leave this time, First time post LOL”

      Don’t worry about it.

      Those in the cabinet who are staunch remainers know for sure that any chance of changing the first result of the referendum has been and gone never to be seen on the political horizon again – ok, a few of the usual suspects will no doubt huff-and-puff for a while – but they will go the way of the dinosaurs. Clarke, Heseltine, Blair, Clegg, Corbyn, SNP, BBC….

      And welcome, your views are of great value here.

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  44. theisland says:

    If the CP are to survive the new leader should be one of the Brexiteers who has consistently voted against the WA.

    As @JamesDelingpole says
    I really don’t want a healing compromiser to take over the Conservatives. I want a cancer surgeon.

    Fat chance.

       31 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      They are actually touting Rory Stewart as next Tory leader – if that were to happen – he would be their last leader – and we’d never get out of the ReichEU.

      Mrs Mays legacy of destroying the police and enabling the ingredients of violent Britain to grow is going to be with us for a long time . I know Blair started it but knife crime is increasing because of her time as Home Secretary . She devalued that role as much as PM .

         18 likes

      • G says:

        Fed,
        Remember the clandestine Fifth Column who responded to Arron Banks request that Brexiteers join the Conservative Party and await, but relish, the time when they have to vote in Party business? I’m one of thousands. Waiting patiently……….

           10 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Yes – on the upside the Tory party HQ has called for candidates for the traitor tiggers who defected . So bye bye Soubry Wollaston – Allen ….

             10 likes

      • vesnadog says:

        Fed,

        “Rory Stewart”

        One thing I like about this guy is that I’m sure he is Ex-military. The nation needs someone leading them with combat experience.

           1 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Ves
          From my read of wiki mr Stewart never held military rank / wore uniform – did PPE at Oxford like the rest of the bubble then joined the FCO and played empire for a bit .

          Correct me but he has as much military experience as Rod Stewart .

          Being in the military doesn’t make for a decent politician – see John call me Johnie mercer – a typical decent chap corrupted by that parliament building . They can’t all pretend to be Churchill .

             12 likes

          • vesnadog says:

            Fed,

            I stand corrected. Thanks.

            I must be thinking of some other MP?

            Ah, well. I’ll make a note of that.

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  45. smoogie7 says:

    I don’t own a TV so I miss a lot of bias. I got the threatening letter but it went in the bin with the leaflets that Labour kept sending me but I keep an eye on them from their website and that place is full of a lot of bias alone!

       17 likes

  46. Celtic_Mist says:

    BBBC should take note –

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  47. Celtic_Mist says:

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  48. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://order-order.com/2019/05/24/juncker-stupid-nationalists-love-country/#disqus_thread

    “These populists, nationalists, stupid nationalists, they are in love with their own country.”

    Any Remainiacs reading this?

    All I have heard from you Remainiac traitors for three years, is advisory referendum, Brexit lies, thick Leavers, we are now better informed so we must have a second referendum (rigged by Remain).

    Complete, total, utter, 100%, nonsense.

    The Juncker statement requires no comment.

    The EU has been lying to European people for 50+ years, since before it changed from a “trading block” to the anti European monstrosity it has become. Remainers in the UK have been lying to the EU hymn book since Heath.

    Remember Tusk’s special place in Hell for Brexit, Remainiacs?

    Hundreds of millions of European people want to leave the EU as it now is, they sure as hell do not want more EU, the destruction of their states, an EU army, a totalitarian surveillance state.

    These people must have their wishes granted.

    Bye bye EU, and good riddance.

       36 likes

    • Celtic_Mist says:

      The outcome of the EU elections across Europe are potentially even more significant than the local ones promise to be.

         17 likes

      • Old Goat says:

        According to an exit poll, the Dutch haven’t performed as expected – they remain soy…

           14 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          I was going to a bit cheeky and go ‘off piste’ and put up a separate thread to enable those who wanted to pay tribute to the outgoing EU prime minister –

          – but I decided not to do it as it wouldn’t be used much – if at all ..,,

          The Tories seem to think it’s business as usual with the usual nonsense about their next leader . They don’t realise that the people just want ‘ out’ no sell out – just gone . If the EU Election result isn’t fiddled with I think the outcome will reflect that .

          The reichEU can deal with the NI border as we need not do anything .

             15 likes

          • LastChanceSaloon says:

            “a separate thread to enable those who wanted to pay tribute to the outgoing EU prime minister”

            Wise decision, it would have received one less comment than you have currently received for your post at 13:17.

               7 likes

        • Demon says:

          Old Goat, how are the Dutch allowed to do an exit poll? Ou media are not allowed to discuss the vote.

          Answering my own question, I assume it is because our masters have decreed that if we appear to have made a demand for freedom and exit it might encourage other “exiteers” across Europe, but the Dutch voting for more enslavement is to be publicised.

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  49. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Trexit at last.

    I think Hammond and Rudd should follow her.
    They are also unwanted.

    Then the likes of Gauke and the other remainers contaminating the cabinet.

    Get the dominoes falling now the head remainer is getting booted out. (Sorry, I meant resigning of her own free will)

       47 likes

    • Celtic_Mist says:

      The historical background to all this is –

      Click to access OCLA_Report_2019-1.pdf

      The EU elections across Europe will perhaps be very significant, if you like, no less than the beginning of the end of the ‘Fourth Reich’

      Jump to the conclusions in the PDF –

      “The only effective resistance against globalization in the West has become the recent electoral and demonstrative revolts related to the Brexit vote, the Trump electoral victory, and the Gilets jaunes movement, all newly understood as the class conflict between the deplorables and the bobos-and-elites, between the sedentary rural inhabitants (the “somewheres”) and the globalist urbanites (the “anywheres”)

         26 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      Not forgetting Mr Grieve. I don’t think any one would grieve at his departure.

         14 likes

  50. RobRoy says:

    Ilkley Moor fire: Mohammed Zukifl charged with arson (Wow, the BBC mention his name!)

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-48398722

       48 likes