The combined forces of the Parliament , the courts and of course the Far Left Biased BBC are conspiring against the Democratic vote of over 17 million people .
Who’d have ever thought the UK could come to this ?
Midweek Thread 25 September 2019
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Just watched last nights Peston (where his interview technique is to interrupt leavers)
He was asking Rudd if she thinks a GE would solve this (Brexit) and she said “no” and that you would only get the same people voted back in so it would solve nothing.
I’ve heard a few politicians come out with this, all remainers of course.
Are they really so out of touch.
Are they completely deaf and blind as to what’s going on.
Do they really think they will be voted back in again?
I would say that at least 300 of them will be gotten rid of.
There will be a big change and even with no alliance with TBP the Tories would get a 60 seat majority.
Rudd says a referendum is the way to settle this.
Give me strength.
Everyone on here can see how wrong that is in so many ways (9 months to organise, the question, best of 3 if remainers won, Swinson won’t accept a leave win and so on)
The only one speaking sense on the Peston panel was the leaver, Alex Phillips from TBP.
Amber has a cat in hell’s chance of regaining her seat in Hastings and Rye.
The local fishing fleets have been decimated since she scraped in last time, so she’ll probably finish up in Lidl, or perhaps the local council.
This is just an hour ago.
The bbc seem content to pretend that their man and his party are linguistic saints, despite considerable reminder evidence to the contrary.
As a consequence, #CCBGB
I don’t know who edits BBC Politics, but they look set for a bonus. Well, a bigger one.
Ems will have her bff on later, surly?
Oh, and #CCBGB
The bbc has hitched to another knackered mare.
That is this BBC Politics, pulling every stunt it can.
Again, #CCBGB
Guest
Considering that thousands of Britons have died to uphold a form of democracy its a bit rich for a traitor to complain about being scared . They all should be for what they are doing and have done .
And if politicians are stupid enough to use their children as propaganda through the state broadcaster there will be a price too. Subverting democracy can’t be allowed to happen and those trying to do so must know there will be consequences
Silly of me I know assigning any level of smarts or sanity to these mother of the year champs, but dragging their kids into the limelight at a febrile time to make a cheap score in the news, in the age of google, seems nothing short of psychotic.
“Yvette Cooper’s daughter Ellie says her house has been fitted with panic buttons”
They will press them in the event of a no deal Brexit, or Corbyn becoming prime minister.
We’ll all need panic buttons when he opens the floodgates to unlimited immigration.
Yvette,
Why don’t you have a wee chat with Arlene Foster or Nigel Dodds?
Might help you and your daughter to put your problems into perspective.
Nobody is killed by words or offensive language, a car bomb or a snipers bullet are a different matter.
“Jeremy Corbyn says Boris Johnson’s language is “encouraging people to behave in a disgraceful and abusive way” towards public figures
He calls on MPs to avoid using words like “surrender”……
He must prefer words like “No surrender” as used by his friends in the IRA.
Dys,
It’s the other side, the community I am a part of, who traditionally use “No Surrender”, it fits in especially well half way through God Save The Queen and is often proceeded on the sides of gable walls by “For God and Ulster”.
It was supposedly first used by UVF soldiers at the Somme on the 1at of July, 1916, a date of already immeasurable significance within the shared Ulster Protestant and British cultures, as they went into battle wearing their Orange Order regalia.
The fact that the 1st of July, 1690, was the date of the Battle of the Boyne, when the army of the newly crowned Protestant King William III, (William of Orange, hence the Orange Order founded a century later in 1795) defeated the troops of the Catholic James II was not lost on those who fought so bravely or on the communities from which they came who lost so many.
The IRA slogan is usually “Tiocfaidh (chucky) ar la”, “Our day will come” in Irish. The only Gaelic most of them actually know.
Who’s the old nutter asleep in the pic above?
Blimey, he looks old, probably time for Horlicks, or maybe his old mentor’s drink, Wincarnis!
I see Jo Swinson is in on the act too.
Does no media genius not see that a sudden rash of threats in one media-narrative direction is awfully convenient?
Or that in the history of nasty political stuff, it’s the nutters not just making the threats that are the issue.
The ones who do stuff the BBC’s comediennes find funny.
Al Beeb don’t do comedy.
Letter in the Times from a well known capitalist lackey supporting Boris
I have had a couple of conversations today, both involving remain voters who would now vote to leave with no deal because they are disgusted at the behaviour of the politicians and their attempt to stop Brexit by any underhanded means whatsoever.
People are realising that our democracy is under threat.
Not to mention the bbc.
Seems all you have to do is take a crew to a staged effort and they’ll run it, no questions asked*.
*Depending on party approval.
Karl Turner resorts to aggressive and confrontational posturing over some so called hurty words, seemingly blaming DC for ‘death threats’ due to said hurty words. Irony seems in short supply within the labour ranks.
Honestus
I saw that this morning and thought exactly the same as I am sure anyone watching did…these Labour MPs are by far the worst and the female only select list ones the worst of the worst…
It does seem strange that only the Labour female MPs have death threats …and the Jess ‘ gobby’ Philips office attack seems to have 5 different versions..
In most of these cases it is one off or an online rant..I didn’t notice the Left complaining when their organised group (mob) outside JRM’s house shouted at his kids..No they are woke so it is okay
Could do with that election ….
Much worse than “surrender” but of course you’ll never hear of it on the far left state broadcaster as most are their comrades:
https://order-order.com/2019/09/26/left-needs-dial-abusive-language/
The ‘Independent’ has found a new way to denigrate Johnson, worthy of the beeb: smear by association.
‘Boris Johnson hailed by far-right extremists for ‘brilliant’ performance in parliament.’
Yep, the ‘far-right’ approve of his performance, therefore he’s a fascist.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/boris-johnson-hailed-by-far-right-extremists-for-brilliant-performance-in-parliament/ar-AAHSG2l
“A man has been arrested for allegedly verbally abusing staff at MP Jess Phillips’ constituency office.
Was a druggie ‘off his head’ smoking pot ? A side act ?
Its pretty clear now these shouts of “No Deal off the table” Really means they want to stop Brexit altogether.
That’s what most of the MPs are desperately trying to achieve. Despite there ‘forked tongue’ words of respect the wishes of the people.
Boris really needs to have a pact with The Brexit Party. That would really put the willies up the Remainers .
>taff..”Boris really needs to have a pact with The Brexit Party. That would really put the willies up the Remainers .”
would love to see that..Brecon&Radnor for example would be blue again I think.
Justin gets about.
Aren’t elections illegal now? After all we don’t know what we are voting for.
If they aren’t I’m sure parliament can bang through a bill in a week or perhaps ‘spider woman’ can save them the effort?
(Doesn’t parliament denying a recess for a party conference ‘fly’ in the face of democracy?. Don’t suppose ‘spider woman’ is too bothered though!)
The Remainers are fixated on 31/10/19 as a date by which they cannot agree to a GE, apparently to discredit BJ into breaking his solemn oath. I cannot however see this as a problem for him. It is achingly clear that the consortium of remainiacs hold the whip hand and that he has to abide by their timing, but whenever the election is held, their prevarication and obstruction will result in massive vote swing to the tories. Cannot see any other outcome.
>honestus – “but whenever the election is held, their prevarication and obstruction will result in massive vote swing to the tories. ”
I do hope so..but to echo the issue noted above by Taffman it would seem eminently sensible for the Tories to talk sensibly with the Brexit party when a GE is called so as to avoid the sort of debacle that happened in the recent by-election in Brecon & Radnor,..no?:
Liberal Democrat 13,826 43.46% +14.32%
Conservative 12,401 38.98% -9.60%
Brexit Party 3,331 10.47% N/A
Labour 1,680 5.28% -12.46%
Minor 334 1.05% N/A
UKIP 242 0.76% -0.63%
Majority 1,425 4.48%
of course it should be remembered that in this by-election “Plaid” and the Greens decided not to stand a candidate which would almost certainly have reduced the LimpDum vote
I strongly suspect that the Tories and Brexit Party are deliberately distancing themselves from each other so as not to scare Northern Labour voters from the Brexit Party. These voters wouldn’t vote Tory if their lives depended on it and wouldn’t vote BP if they thought it was just an offshoot of the Tories.
agreed RD..but maybe in certain seats they need to arrange something like I spoke about with the Greens/Plaid “stand down” re the LibDem vote in B&R.
Good point.
BBC Newsbeat
Toy shop staff will also be trained to ask what a child is interested in rather than “is it for a boy or a girl?”
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It’s ok, it’s The Netherlands.
For now.
Can just see Justin and Phoebe pinning their Albanian Amazon delivery driver to the ground and demanding their toy qualifications.
It is hilarious that the bbc promotes this stuff about girls wanting to be scaffolders one minute, and then gets excited about a hairy fat bloke called Steve in a pink tutu the next.
Anyone would think that national broadcaster was staffed exclusively by raving idiots.
If only women were interested in being scaffolders, refuse collectors, road workers or any job that requires strength and don’t mind getting dirty.
WHAT WE HEARD IN PARLIAMENT YESTERDAY WAS THE SOUND OF BORIS (WHO MAY, OR MAY NOT, MEAN WHAT HE SAID) -COMING UP AGAINST THE BANSHEE HOWL OF ANTHONY BLAIR.
I have a vague feeling that some time in the future we will look back at the past weeks and months, and realize that the way we think about, and conduct, politics changed fundamentally. It goes far beyond Leave or Remain.
Easiest to identify as a starting point is 1997. The men who created everything from the ‘dodgy dossier’ TO TAKE US TO WAR on a lie, to the abortion we now have as a ‘Supreme Court’, came to power. It became possible to let in 2-3 million “migrants”–simply ‘to give the Tories one in the eye’ — as Tommy Cooper might have said: ‘just like that’. I can hear Tony, snapping his fingers. Mr Magic Power.
The PEOPLE, to whom much lip service was paid, were –in reality– unimportant or even irrelevant. To the sound of ‘things can only get better’ we find that the WHOLE IDEA was to deceive those very people. This showed your God-like mastery of power. Let them eat cake.
This period “ended” in 2016, when (convinced he could not lose) Dave C. gave the despised people a referendum. Through his disasterous miscalculation, THE PEOPLE actually took power, in a brief moment of DIRECT DEMOCRACY.
Since then, parliament has been scrambling to recover the REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY model. That is why we constantly hear about “parliamentary sovereignty” (which sees no connection to the sovereignty OF THE PEOPLE). Up there, in ‘that place’, THEY decide. And just to SHOW US, they have reneged on their promise and kept us waiting for three years. One in the eye, yet again!
And now we see why Tony Blair is still very much with us, if only in mindset.
When Boris challenged the tyranny of parliament model, lo and behold, there was THE SUPREME COURT. Many, many Labour and SNP scoundrels sanctimoniously pointed us to the (hastily promulgated) RULE OF LAW yesterday. Lest we thought that parliament might be dithering re our instructions, or even be showing us two reversed fingers, the mighty Spiderwoman and her ten weblings appeared– magically, darting out to back up and re-legitimise the ‘honourable and right honourable members’ – unanimously, of course (Lest we doubt their determination).
And so Tony, the vulgar Magician, would-be President of the European Union, walks among us still. We, the people, spoilt his little game. All that screeching and yelling and shrieking and indignation yesterday was a reflection of Tony’s outrage. And his little pal, the very erudite Mr Speaker, is very much present. And HIS MASTER’S VOICE- Al Beeb is still very much around, -like the Guardian- hand outstretched.
Forget “Communism”. New Labour very much refined that idea, with its outmoded Leninist “vanguard party” model. No, we got the new, improved “Cool Britannia” party model.
Our system keeps Nigel out. We still wonder about Boris. How much of what he says does he mean?
What will we do now?
fnw,
succinct and accurate summation. I would go further. The political driving force that has been bubbling away beneath the surface and just out of view of the voting public for years has now been drawn out, like the poison it is, exposed as openly biased and partisan. This is the heavily politicised media especially and in particular – the biased broadcasting company. They drive and sometimes create the narrative. The individuals or groups that they want to be villains are painted and promoted as such, with a frequency and consistency that can only be explained by collusion and agreement between the larger media players and their ideological partners. This is full on propaganda warfare where the people have few representatives on the major media platforms which shockingly, if unsurprisingly includes ‘Auntie beeb’, the state tax funded broadcaster that voters actually fund but find little representation in.
The plan
Emily knows best. Even if out of sight until things cool off.
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Spitfire.
Recently this evening I watched on BBC4 a documentary about the Spitfire.
It was not made by the BBC but by an independent production company about a year ago.
It had many references to the role of women both in the manufacture and the delivery of aircraft to front line squadrons.
I have no problem with the role of women in the war effort. It is admirable.
I do have a problem with the role of women in the politics of the Labour party.
The women of WW2 and the women of the Labour Party are not compatible. The women of the Labour Party with few exceptions are a disgrace to the country and the memory of those brave women who flew for our freedom.
Shadow transport minister Karl Turner launched a vitriolic vocal attack on Dominic Cummings, intimidating and bullying him in public….attempting to single him out and make him the target of what he knows will be threats and massive abuse…the last time something like this happened the ‘attacker’ was arrested and charged…..James Goddard…remember him?
Why are the police not knocking on Turner’s door? Where is the BBC?
The BBC are actually, naturally, also targeting Cummings…shipping in useful idiots who they know will launch into furious denouncements of Cummings with all sorts of lurid allegations about him being the evil svengali driving a dangerous narrative about betrayal and surrender…actually Cummings doesn’t need to drive that it’s on everyone’s lips….the Public are there already….we have a treacherous, shameless, dishonest Parliament working in the interests of a foreign state and against the British national interest, against the will of The People. We all know it…the BBC just don’t want to admit and acknowledge it.
Just a minute ago we had the fanatical Remain lawyer, Jolyon Maugham, on 5 Live being given the red carpet treatment and encouraged to tell us how he is about to flee the country such are the threats to his life…he’s busy on Google researching which is the best stab vest to buy….presumably one that will fit over his big head and cover his over-inflated ego [& only one problem..the prick will be inside the vest]. Naturally dark forces are being directed against him by some unnamed mastermind [you know who] in No10. BBC lapped it up. [have to say looking at his twitter feed he doesn’t seem in the slightest bit perturbed or threatened…guess only when the BBC comes calling does the play-acting kick in].
Hmmm….seem to remember JRM’s family being accosted in a threatening manner outside his house…not only that but the gobby stop-brexit bloke actually rented a house directly opposite JRM’s home….threatening, sinister or what? Not to mention the numerous times masked thugs burst into speeches being given by JRM…don’t remember any quivering outrage from Labour then.
The real violence is actually coming from Remain and Labour as they ramp up their rhetoric about ‘language’…using what are basically threats and intimidation by shamelessly putting totally innocuous words and ideas on a par with Hitler in effect…Boris Johnson laughably accused of stoking violence and rousing the Far-Right…leading to extremism, terrorism and death threats.
It is the ramped up, over-heated ‘violent’ reaction parading as noble indignation and moral outrage that is the really dangerous reaction, intended to silence debate and demonise Boris Johnson as some sort of neo-Nazi monster….and knowingly meant to fuel more attacks on Boris and Cummings.
The BBC have been at the forefront of such attacks on Boris for years now and are now encouraging and giving licence to others to say the worst to whip up as much vitriol, anger and no doubt direct attacks on Boris and Cummings as possible.
It is the excessive, violent deliberate, calculated and orchestrated reaction of the Left, as always, given the nod of approval by the BBC, that is the real problem here…just as the violence at EDL marches is in fact started by UAF and fellow travellers…but the BBC reports it as the EDL who are the problem.
pugnazious,
Good post.
As we have seen with Trump, the flack is always heaviest when you are directly over the target.
If the BBC admired Boris, I would be worried.
A friend of mine complained to the Metropolitan Police about the hate attack on JRM that he had seen on the video.
The response from the police was that because my friend had not actually been there in person, the complaint was not valid.
The hate attack on JRM
The attack was carried out by Class War, who have teamed up with the leftoid remainers. Their leader, who did the shouting at JRM’s children was a student of Barry Sheerman, and says this about his former tutor on their FB page .
Class War
Yesterday at 6:49 AM ·
BARRY SHEERMAN’S RAGE WAS THE ONLY possible response. He used to be my politics tutor at Swansea uni.
So CLASS WAR is forming the SHEERMAN BRIGADE to take the fight onto the streets
oh the bleeding hearts on newsnght last night – please be nice to us . get a fucking grip – it’s CLASS WAR the old Etonians will dance on jo cox grave – they already are.
Any old Etonian will do – they need to be hurt – to be afraid then their arrogance will be a noose
THE ARROGANCE OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOLBOYS AS JOHNSON AND COX SHOW OFF FOR HOURS – LOOK AT ME NOW NANNY!
I fucking told yas!
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They plan to make a citizen’s arrest of Boris Johnson, with violent confrontation. Will Corbyn and the Labour Wimmin disassociate themselves from this?
All those MPs spouting their false outrage and unable to distinguish between ‘threats’ that are extremely unlikely to be carried out and real violence, should take a moment to consider the frustration of the electorate that has waited forty years to say ‘No’ to the EU, (having only had a choice of blue, red and orange EUnuch parties) in the past.
Then being given that ‘once in a lifetime’ opportunity that electorate has seen the bulk of MPs renege on their promises.
They should especially realise that ‘the vote’ is the only way that the ordinary voter can lawfully express their opinion, (the courts being beyond their pockets and unlikely to hear their case).
The hero of ‘the left’ John F. Kennedy realised this and, as I told my MP over a year ago:
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable”.
or from Hosea 8:7
“For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind”
They delude themselves if they think ‘Boris’ is the problem.
Eddie Izzard and Emily Thornberry never seen in the same place together….
Why does she look so happy? Where are the hands of the gentleman behind her?
Has she finally decided to offer “accommodation” to a “refugee”.
Oh Christ. Perish the thought.
Boris has the opportunity now to transform this country.
I think he will.
Peaky Blinders
In recent days the libmob, the Guardianlalaland, the BBC have been chanting that we must not have a national atmosphere that is angry or inciting and that words like “surrender” and “humbug” should be banned
Yet this same BBC has created and promoted this drama series where downright nasty violent characters are glorified.
BTW did anyone listen to Wednesday’s R4 Media Show
which was entirely about Peaky Blinders ?
Instead of having the BBC’s Amol Rajan talking about how great this BBC show is , they had the non-BBC presenter
So that was impartial
Yeh right, the guy they used is a Guardian Editor ..
Their Media Editor jimWaterson
…. facepalm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0008nzr
“Could polygyny be the answer to Russia’s problems?”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-49838486
Where is this one going ?
Very difficult to judge. A curious (or at best, lazy) choice of photograph (St Basil’s cathedral) when the story has a predominately Muslim theme: something like the Moscow Cathedral Mosque may have been more appropriate. But I’ll hazard a guess on a follow-up article:
“Like Russia, Britain has a demographic problem. Whether it is a shortage of nurses in the NHS or chefs to work in Asian restaurants, we have a drastic shortage of people. Traditionally, Britain has been a nation of immigrants, enabling us to maintain the population levels necessary for economic growth and ensure a diverse, vibrant society. But Post-Brexit, that ideal solution is being thrown into doubt and experts are calling for a more radical solution. Even in socially conservative Russia, there have been calls for polygyny, a respected system whereby a man can have multiple wives. And now Islamic scholars advising the government in Britain have suggested that polygyny, at least for the Muslim community in the UK, should be fully embraced, along with a reduction in the age of marriage and consent to 14. They point out that polygyny is already recognised de facto, for instance with benefits payments to multiple wives and the resultant offspring. A spokesperson for the Labour Party, who did not wish to be named, described it as a ‘fresh and innovative solution to an old problem’ and one worthy of serious consideration.
Ian,
Couldn’t agree more, this is exactly where this is going and has been a quite regularly recurring narrative on the bBC for a while now, just do a quick search on the webshite.
First polygyny (why not call it the more understood polygamy) then a push to lower the age of consent and marriage to allow for a younger third wife or marriage to their teenage niece from their village back home thus legalizing paedophilia.
Sick, sick people.
“polygyny” is used in the BBC title NOT “polygamy”
I don’t know why the BBC has to introduce that rare word
polygyny is an example in which a man has more that one wife.
“polygamy” refers to the practice of having more than one spouse.
In the article the mufti is first quoted as supporting the tradition on polygyny of men having multiple wives
and then he also adds that since there are too many women , it might be a solution.
The BBC could have just used the word polygamy and people would have understood
Classic
StewGreen
“And lower the voting age”
The idea of using continued immigration to maintain a base for the Labour Party was largely developed by the Marxist historian and mentor to Tony Bliar, Eric Hobsbawm. His argument was that Western capitalism was basically successful in improving the economic circumstances of the working class and that, as they became wealthier, people naturally became more conservative and switched their allegiance from left-wing parties. Therefore, it was necessary to constantly bring in immigrants who, initially being at the bottom of the socio-economic structure, would be drawn to Labour.
Why has the silly old man in the middle got three arms?
Or is one of them to stick up the nose of the fat bloke behind him?
And what’s he doing to the person on his left? Looks remarkably like an elbow-fondle to me…
And I reckon the bloke with the black-currant cornet needs to ask for his money back too!
Where’s David Bailey when you need him!
For the sake of clarity, Scrobie’s post refers to the Leave.EU Tweet linked to in Stew’s post @12.22a.m..
Judging by Honourable Hackney member’s expression something naughty is going on on the Conference floor.
You can’t say things like ‘silly old man in the middle with three arms’: it is sexist, disablist, ageist and numberist and constitutes vile hate-speech. Many members of Humankind ((c) J.Trudeau) have made valuable contributions to society, including Jake the Peg.
Humankind has long been a good word. Trudeau invented “Peoplekind” which is just hiariously pathetic.
BBC HALF the story, ALL the time
which is why you never heard about these
We truly live in strange times when the words “Surrender bill” and “Back a deal, then”, both true and spoken calmly, somehow ‘incite hatred’!
And now our church leaders are joining in on the ‘Boris Bashing’, wanting him to ‘keep to the law’, which is a bit rich when one considers how they have ditched their own ‘rule book’ to keep in with the Marxist-Muslim alliance.
My apols if anyone’s seen this, but I hadn’t…
Good question…
…answer? What answer Greta?
Scrob – what does anyone expect – that’s a 16 year old .
Can but wait for the MSM group think anguish when they realise she isn’t wearing any clothes . I’m prejudiced because I have only heard her speak in this piece …
Ha ha ha. I’ve just been banned from Fcebook for drawing attention to similarities between how the Nazis used young girls to promote their ideology and the way this girl is being used.
I used this photo published in the Metro
https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/23/greta-thunberg-compared-nazi-propaganda-girl-us-commentator-10790893/
And let’s not even explore the links and parallels between Nazism and Environmentalism in too much depth in case it leads to unexpected realisations and conclusions…
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/of-nazis-and-other-nature-lovers-1.5236743
Although the imagery of Greta is more likely to be modelled on the Swedish children’s character, Pippi Longstocking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippi_Longstocking
TOADY Watch #1 – Wilful ignorance or worrying innocence?
Dharshini David is said to be an economist and a business person. She is Business/Economics Correspondent for the BBC. She appeared to know nothing about business at 7.15a.m. this morning when asking whether ‘business’ really is ready for Brexit. Her interviewee was left untroubled by any probing questions whatsoever from Dharshini about the need to prepare.
The narrative that four-fifths of businesses are not ready for Brexit was inadvertently promoted or deliberately promoted by the BBC.
Let’s take the example of a sole practitioner High Street Chartered Accountant. Several where I lived in London. Several within ten miles of me now. They will be members of every business association and enterprise group going. Clients will be local small businesses and individuals. There will be no need to do anything to prepare for Brexit. (You can repeat that for small law firms, Estate Agents, etc., etc.) It is this type of business that forms the mass of businesses within the various ‘trade’ associations and in the UK.
There will be no need, whatsoever, for businesses like that to do anything to prepare for Brexit.
Dharshini David did not ask about any of that.
On the evidence of this, the BBC cannot be trusted.
Toady watch
Tourette’s Robinson has discovered a new way to be biased without actually being biased . What he does is this – he trawls the worlds main newspapers in the ‘press review’ and finds a like minded piece which follows his narrative of the world .
Today he has used an article in the Washington Post about why leaders from around the world are ( in his view ) breaking the law – so its straight to bojo – trump- and others
Clever technique to dishonestly conceal his anti democratic bias- and of course – that of the Remainer Broadcasting Corpse.
Any questions watch
Eddie Sturton – the rather grand journo who sits in for a dimbly whilst counting his dividends – gave his personal ant Brexit bias away in the trailer for his dire show this morning . Apparently a Tory minister is going to get a hostile reception after the government was found to have broken the law – according to him .
Good luck to anyone who listens to that or watches the other rubbish – Question Time .
Plod watch
Cleveland police inadequate on all areas ( great achievement )
35000 cops and staff across the country not properly vetted – imagine the real number – I did like the story of the lady in the lost property Office who got caught stealing a purse which an honest member of the public had handed in ….
Fed, those Police & Crime Commissioners are obviously working well, are they not? (Owww! tongue in cheek caught that dodgy tooth again!)
‘Dave’s’ silliest scheme for wasting taxpayer money and time. They should be dispensed with ASAP, along with directly elected Mayors.
“Wow, there’s someone who makes content for us?”
Danielle makes custom designs for games as Ebonixsims, so that other black gamers get to see themselves fully represented. ????????
(via BBC News Africa)
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Careful what you wish for, presenters.
What happens if you kill a BME character in a game ….do you get reported for being racist ?
TOADY Watch #2 – MP, a bullying victim, bites back
Alok Sharma (Con) (Remain) and Minister for International Development is bullied and battered by Nick Robinson in thuggish mode at 8.10. Mr Sharma responds brilliantly, refusing to provide the BBC with the soundbites they want and putting Nick Robinson on the spot and showing him up as a dishonest presenter.
On the evidence of this, the BBC cannot be trusted.
I missed TWT last evening on R4 @10p.m.. I don’t know whether and Government Ministers or MPs were on the programme, but on the evidence of TOADY today, the BBC are starting to lose regularly in their skirmishes. The Government won TOADY and TWatO yesterday and TOADY again today. The BBC are playing a dangerous game. The Labour Party will be listening and learning.
Should we get a Labour Government at the next Election, the TOADY Programme risks being further diminished with Labour strategists cutting them out of the news loop by forbidding Ministers & MPs to appear on R4 for a mauling.
Error in first line of penultimate para: you have a choice – either add ERG spokespeople after the word ‘whether’ or turn the ‘and’ into ‘any’.
Where’s maxi when you really need him?
U2
I banned him – alright – I didn’t – he’s too busy waving one of those ‘ stop brexit ‘ posters on college green next to the paid idiot with the top hat
Up2, Labour won’t forbid any of their ministers to boycott the BBC as all their pronouncements (no matter how awful or dishonest) will be treated as marvellous, and all Labour ministers will be fawned upon like they were the disciples of the Second Coming (Corbyn).
Labour have nothing to fear from the BBC. They claim that the way they treat the Conseervative Government is because they have to hold the government to account. However, between 1997 and 2010 the BBC supported all thigs the government pushed (except for the Iraq War when the Conservative opposition supported the Labour Government.)
Basically the BBC looks at what the Conservatives are doing (in or out of government) and take the exact opposite view.
I meant “won’t order their ministers to boycott the BBC”
The bbc are milking the bbc’s Actions for all their worth.
Everywhere.
The BBC’s David Jordan on Today explaining that Trump’s words, ‘go back home’, were racist…apparently BBC journos can say that but can’t then say Trump is a racist.
The BBC always misses off the rest of the quote…which says ‘then come back and tell us how it’s done’……
Not racist…the Squad always play on their roots., as does the BBC, so why is it racist for Trump to mention them?
I’ve been seeing these moronic lefties claiming recently that the lefty Kuenssberg is a Tory!!!! They clearly never listen to her or they think that Harperson and Abbott are tories too. One even claimed that the extreme left Maitless is also a Tory.
The one they use over and over is Toenails Robinson who apparently was a Young Conservative prior to his apparent lobotomy. Well, he’s completely on board with Labour now and has been since working for the BBC.
Andrew Neil is quoted as being a leaver (possibly) and completely biased against the left. He is the one, the only one, BBC presenter who savages both sided equally. Of course the Left are horrified that any of their representatives are actually asked difficult questions on the BBC, ignoring that Neil does exactly the same to Conservatives.
The way to find out which side the BBC backs is to call for the ending of the BBC Poll tax. The Left who never believe in freedom of speech or the right for the Right to speak openly get into hysterics if someone suggests that this disgusting tax is stopped. However, most Conservatives would be happy to see it stopped despite being, in general, in favour of all sides having equal freedom of speech.
the BBC added that “audiences should not be able to tell” the opinions of its journalists on matters of public policy.
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LOL…John Major…’I bring unity and love….you bastards….we’ll never forget nor forgive your appalling chicanery.’
BBC Online News today:
Dominic Cummings speaks.
“If you are a bunch of politicians and say that we swear we are going to respect the result of a democratic vote, and then after you lose you say, ‘We don’t want to respect that vote’, what do you expect to happen?”
“In the end, the situation can only be resolved by Parliament honouring its promise to respect the result,” he said, echoing sentiments expressed by the prime minister in the Commons on Wednesday.
“This is a walk in the park compared to the referendum. We are enjoying this. We are going to leave and we are going to win,” he said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49847304
The BBC are for now playing it cool with Cummings’ words but as the day wears on they will start to associate a raft of narratives aorund it….mostly linking violence and the Far-Right…both being incited and ecnouraged by his words.
However…on Today this morning we had Dame Eleanor Laing who said exactly the same thing…and suggested Bercow had been biased in favour of Remain and she would do things differently.
She said in order to calm things down we needed to progress with Brexit and respect the will of the electorate.
Curiously haven’t heard her words quoted back on BBC news bulletins as they normally do when they rapidly recycle quotes from people they approve of…..she stated that the ‘impartiality of the Chair has been possibly diminished.’ Nice, important quote. Other than Today’s twitter feed do you see it on the BBC or indeed her previous statement channelling Cummings about Parliament needing to get Brexit done essentially? Last bit not even on Today’s tweet for some reason.
Not a hope – it’s hatties Job already pencilled in . When it should be Lindsey hoyle .
The EU’s lackeys will further ‘fix’ the voting system.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/09/27/why-giving-foreign-nationals-the-vote-is-a-bad-idea/
Labour members overwhelmingly backed a motion that would give full voting rights to foreign nationals living in the UK. It would mean anyone with residency rights in the UK would be able to vote in a General Election, as well as any future Brexit referendum.
Early on at the conference, Keir Starmer, the shadow Brexit secretary, went even further in terms of changing the franchise, suggesting that 16-year-olds should be able to vote in a second Brexit referendum, because they would be the ones most affected by the outcome.
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This call to change the electorate, to expand it to include foreign residents and 16-year-olds, is clearly about fixing any future second Brexit referendum in favour of Remain.
Island.
If his logic is that 16 year old children should vote because they will be more affected by the outcome then pure logic says 10 year olds should also be given a vote.
Or 5 year olds.
Funny how at 16 they are either vulnerable children if they come across the channel or they are completely grown up adults if they want them to vote.
Who do you think you are fooling labour. We are not all the idiots you think we are.
It’s also strange that only a few years ago the Marxist views and beliefs that Milliband Senior had at 16/17, that an Englishman “is a rabid nationalist” for one, were to taken as the views of a naive and questioning innocent, to be disregarded as not yet fully or fairly formed, at the same as his sons and their then party supported lowering the voting age.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2439565/As-Ed-Miliband-reacts-angrily-critique-Marxist-father–We-repeat-This-man-did-hate-Britain.htmlago
Why would youngsters of obviously lesser intellect, in the eyes of our establishment at least, be anymore capable of voting in a more mature, informed and considered manner now? They wouldn’t, but they would be able to vote “correctly”.
Cant see it making any difference. The big difference will come when they decide and they will one day that you don’t have to be registered at an address.
The reasons millions don’t register is that they are claiming single residency or are sub letted.
So how many unfortunate souls at Grenfal were actual tennants registered at that address to vote?
Photographic ID has to be introduced as it is here in Northern Ireland . The fact that the privilege of a democratic vote is not more respected and more rigorously managed is a scandal.
Just a comment..has anyone ever seen the BBC Brexit broadcast..I came across it at the father in laws today..4 BBC people talking to each other about Brexit – how balanced do you think this conversation is? Apparently we are paying for this …..why do the BBC need to do this…pretty sure nobody listens to it…
Here’s Brendan Cox on the current furore about unparliamentary language…
Now I may disagree with his take on the word ‘surrender’ and ‘betrayal’ [May and so many others used the same language], ‘Traitor’ I could agree on in Parliament [Boris, and probably all else, has not used that word in Parliament ]…not on the street where you call a spade a spade, but note he also criticises the vitriolic response of those attacking Boris and states that such a response only ramps up the tensions and division….which is of course true…the furiously angry pantomime played out by Labour politicians for the cameras was intended of course to do exactly that, to create a wave of anger and opprobrium against Boris and the Tories….and unfortunately the BBC has lined up with that narrative and given it legitimacy as it brings in an endless stream of people who want to push that narrative and who are given a very receptive and unchallenging platform to trash Boris. There are few people allowed on to say anything to the contrary and they are of course interrupted and accused and blamed by a finger-wagging BBC presenter.
It is curious how infrequently the opposite side of the narrative is allowed on air…it certainly isn’t one that is actually given any credence and legitimacy by the BBC…any mention is in passing and usually offered up as an opportunity for a Remainer to dismiss it and go on to push their own line on Boris’ language and tone.
The BBC has always attacked the Leave side for what the BBC portrays as unacceptable language….not long ago asking why they were using the language ‘of war’ by using the term ‘surrender’ …so Labour knows it will find a willing ally in the BBC, a powerful and influential advocate who will be on their side in this debate…or rather this staged furore.
From ‘Newswatch’….
http://news-watch.co.uk/when-will-team-boris-wake-up-to-bbc-bias/
‘The transcript of the interview with Sir William has to be seen to be believed. (It follows below.) Nick Robinson adopted a tone reserved by BBC presenters for those whom it regards as especially unsavoury, such as former BNP leader Nick Griffin. In an aggressive barrage of questions, Robinson asserted:
‘. . . what’s at issue here is the language you used, Sir Bill. No, the issue here is the language you use and I want you to address the language you’ve used rather than the argument.’
And inquired:
‘Do you think we’re still at war with Germany, Sir Bill? You refer to “appeasement”, “collaboration”, “surrendering”, “being on our hands and knees to Germany”. Do you think the war is continuing? . . . Why do you use the language of wartime, “appeasement”, “collaboration”, “surrender”, Sir Bill?’
Sir William patiently and politely explained that he had chosen the words because they were appropriate in the context that the EU were being very intransigent and ‘doing everything possible to make it difficult to leave’ on reasonable terms. Robinson was having none of it.
In sharp contrast, the programme’s general approach to the numerous Remain guests who suggested that leaving the EU with ‘no deal’ would be damaging or ‘catastrophic’ was benign acceptance. ‘
Well…of course the EU is at war with us….even militarily as it threatens to uneash the IRA upon us if we don’t ‘surrender’ to its terms…but we’re not the only ones to use a similar narrative about war and the EU….
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/24/germany-will-win-the-peace-in-europe-because-of-brexit-says-lord-heseltine
‘Michael Heseltine: Germany will ‘win the peace’ because of Brexit
Tory peer says it is ‘quite unacceptable’ for Germany to be in dominant position in Europe, having lost second world war.
“If I can put it to you, for someone like myself, it was in 1933, the year of my birth, that Hitler was democratically elected in Germany. He unleashed the most horrendous war. This country played a unique role in securing his defeat.
“So Germany lost the war. We’ve just handed them the opportunity to win the peace. I find that quite unacceptable.”
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It’s the fourth time I’ve said this because I think it’s important . If politicians in the commons use words which are not ruled out by the Speaker they are perfectly proper .
I’m not sure if bollocks to Brexit was used but it was certainly official policy of the illiberal party acting like the lower 6th form .
Once entire Partys drop to that level it’s only going to quite rightly spiral down . But BoJo echos the majority in the country in my view . The jo cox fan club just uses her sad death as a propaganda tool as does her husband .
Something major about the Karl Turner video @GuestWho mentioned last night.
Yep sure enough the BBC are making the most of that Labour Party PR matierial
When I switched on my local radio station this morning the presenter was doing an earnest save the world speech about how poor Karl Tuner is getting death threats and that people (by which he means Brexiteers) need to calm down
He then played the Karl Turner video, which is awful radio cos the audio is terrible .
..I then check the video on Twitter
What do I find ?
BBC #BiasByOmission as they’ve cut off the subtitles when Turner ended by saying something nasty
The BBC run their news crediting him as the supplier.
Meanwhile they are on full NagaMartyr mode, quoting Donald Trump…. partially.
They have jumped the shark across the board.
Awaiting Paul Mason to be named DG next.
I watched the video yesterday and admittedly relied heavily on the sub titles as there was significant background noise. But you are right. Have played again and again and he does indeed make this vicious and very personal verbal comment with the word ‘dead’ very clear. Amazed it wasn’t cropped before uploading but due to the omission of subtitles by the beeb at this very critical point, appears now as misrepresentation or even worse, covering up for the total and mind numbing hypocrisy of Karl Turner.
Question, which msm platform has the balls to publish???!!!!
Yes Stew, Guido has picked up on this here:-
https://order-order.com/2019/09/27/karl-turner-threaten-cummings/
Ah Yes Guido and I must have been writing at the same time
They tweeted at 9:47am I at 9:55am
Cleverly tweeted at 8:17am
My local BBC station tweeted the Turner video twice
Thu night 7:40pm
and then again 12 hours later
I note that last time they had him on air listeners complained about his aggression.
I think the nasty comment was that ‘Cummings belongs in a ditch ‘ – which comes from the guido analysis of the end of the encounter .
I have to say Cummings certainly has some style when dealing with heated snowflakes – including the great put down “who are You ?” Answer “I’m an MP”. ( – a remainer traitor in a 68% leave constituency who dishonours his constituents ever day he has his snout in the trough ).
Fed — reminded me of a great put down by Freddie Mercury in the 70s.
Queen were recording in the same studio as the Sex Pistols, Sid Vicious walks into the Queen studio one day and sneerily asks Freddie if he’s succeeded yet in bringing ballet to the masses. Freddie calls him ‘Simon Ferocious’ and pushes him out the door…
Talk Radio now , caller is pointing out the utter HYPOCRISY of Labour MP HYPOCRITES shouting about inflammatory language.
Just an advisory – I’m going to put the weekend thread up early as there is so much comment on the site at the moment . I thank every one for their restraint in such trying and unDemocratic times .
BBC narrative \\Man held over MP Jess Phillips ‘fascist’ abuse at Birmingham office
The MP said her staff had to be locked inside the office in Birmingham while a man reportedly shouted “fascist” at them while hitting doors and windows.
West Midlands Police said they were called to a disturbance in Acocks Green at about 14:30 BST. (Thursday)//
Twitter then points out that Jess Phillips office is closed all day Tuesdays and Thursdays
so anyone who’d traipsed all the way down is likely to end up knocking on the window and shouting.
Police said
“A 36-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of a public order offence and possession of cannabis. He’s been taken into police custody and will be questioned in due course.”
ITV went further and used a headline
“Arrest made after man tried to ‘**break into** Jess Phillips’s constituency office'”
Twitter pointed out “he was arrested on a public order offence not attempted breaking in”
Stew – I think they’ll find that it was the bloke I sent to deliver a printer to the poor impoverished girl .
She’s work class you know – people like her don’t normally get into Parliament ( thank god )
( for the record Fedup2 considers itself to be working class – but what might be considered a ‘traditional type ‘ who prefers self reliance to claiming benefits not paid for ).
Paul not helping.
Off to walk the dogs. The media turn my stomach.
Interesting isn’t it that race, age, gender is important to KGM…obviously claiming all those identities influenced the decision….ermmmm…isn’t KGM being racist…whitey male can’t make fair decisions about ‘woman of colour’? Maybe he wants them to go away…go home perhaps?
I think the ethnic channel four chap has a bit of a chip that Brillo is a thousand time better journo and interviewer than he could ever be .
And to use the brilliant powerful example of Brillo defending France and journalism after the Charlie hebdo attacks is – something else . Now where did I put the picture of Corbyn posing with the guru Murphy. ( there is one )
And this I assume actually applies to Brexit in the main…
https://twitter.com/alstewitn/status/1177183126637953026
When it comes to *racism*, there’s no such thing as ‘impartiality’
I bet they’d say
When it comes to *CLIMATE CHANGE*, there’s no such thing as ‘impartiality’
ie this is a game where you insert your ‘sacred dogma ‘
The point is she was being PARTIAL, she was using the Smear/Label/Dismiss PR trick against Trump as she smears him labels him a racist
Racism itself is always wrong but “Bearing false witness” sticking the word racist on people who aren’t is a worse crime.
*Throwing dehumanising heavy LABELS like “racist” on people*
.. is not impartial
“…As British broadcasters and journalists of colour, we demand it reconsiders…”
Demanding reconsideration seems to be a bit of a zeitgeisty thing doesn’t it?
Guest,
when gobby mason would like nothing more than for the BBC to become a fully fledged political arm of global marxism. So not the ‘political’ that’s the issue – its the wrong type of political.
important critical path for msm and bbc;
Does the comment impugn, condemn, call into question Boris’s morals or legitimacy, his behavior or his character. If so – use and promote.
If if does none of these things or involves partner individuals or groups – bury.
Same goes fro Trump, their other nemesis!
Same goes fro Trump, their other nemesis!
There was a time when we mocked the fanatics and fools…
Today we celebrate and worship them, politicians fall over themselves to fawn and pander to her…the BBC adores her and makes her the face of their climate change campaign…
Is that a hatey face and comment she’s making, and isn’t that illegal?
Oh I forgot, it’s only when conservatives make hatey comments that it’s illegal.
When it’s Lefties it’s righteous anger or justifiable indignation.
Well worth repeating- this was written in 2014,
Soon, there won’t be a Europe to be part of -Economically and politically, Europe is sinking fast, and it seems powerless to save itself. Our island nation cannot indefinitely escape these destructive dynamics. At this week’s CBI annual conference, there was much talk of the damage that uncertainty over British membership of the EU was doing to business confidence.
Indeed, the way things are going, there soon won’t be a Europe to be part of. The greater threat to our future is not loss of European markets and investment, but a continent paralysed by political crisis and economically crippled by a malfunctioning monetary union. Europe pretends to be a single nation, but is incapable of acting like one. That this tragedy is in part caused by the enforced march to federalism is beside the point. Whatever the reasons, Europe is burning up again, and, historically, it’s always been impossible for Britain to escape Europe’s flames.
Britain finds itself in the same boat. In order to compensate for economic failure in Europe, the UK is forced to pursue reflationary policies that in the long term it can ill afford. What is already one of Europe’s most unbalanced economies is being compelled by Europe’s tragic series of wrong turns into becoming even more dependent on pumped up domestic demand.
The European Union is failing. Whether we are in or out scarcely now seems to matter anymore. In imagining it does, many of our leading businesses and politicians are woefully behind the curve. Something will eventually emerge from the wreckage. But whatever it is, it won’t be the status quo.
They the EU are still sinking and will sink lower when the UK has gone from their greedy, duplicitous agendas.
Governement obviously does not represent us anymore-whom has it represented these 40 odd years? It clearly does not have our best interests at heart. Instead of our wishes, it has ruthlessly implemented EU treaties, EU laws, 120,000 EU regulations, and the EU’s agenda. Our parties are obviously not controlled by us, the electorate, but by the European Union our government so obviously represents. And now refuses, so it would seem to adhere to the voting publics wishes, as per the referendum 2016-to leave the EU.
Twitter say BOjo is not doing PMQs next week – domRaab is taking it on . I suppose MSM and the poisonous speaker will be demanding the PM attend in one of those rapidly being abused ‘urgent question ‘ jobs which turn up by the bucket load now .
If I has the proper government I’d just ignore them now because they are just an excuse for speaker /traitor parliament grandstanding and playing the ‘first to mention jo Cox ‘game
And then find an excuse to clap an whoop like it’s a Saturday night bread and circuses game show ….
UK Pays the EU and UK MPs.
UK MPs go to a forum paid by the EU.
This is a double hit for the UK – MP not available and paid for a nice break!
Labour MP … Karl Turner… European Parliamentary Forum on Population and Development … £2,141
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=24767