301 Responses to Start the Week Thread 25 November 2019

  1. Rick Bradford says:

    Do any of the parties, apart from the DUP, have any plans to take action against the awful BBC?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Rick – from memory – the charter isn’t due for renewal for a few years so there is time for reform . The previous DCMS minister spoke about looking at subscription so the conservatives have a view – but I’ve not read their manifesto yet – for what that’s worth .
      But I guess the real answer to your question is ‘ not yet’ .


    • StewGreen says:

      Backlinks to previous thread
      – From 5pm Saturday we had page 2
      – Then last thing Sunday night a couple of posts overspilled onto page 3

      Ctrl-F helps you bring up a search box to search a page for posts by topic
      I search for brand new additions by putting “November 25” into the search box
      .. cos that will bring up posts posted on the the 25th


  2. Not Gwent says:

    I see that News front page continues the attack on the ‘Conservatives twitter account’ rebranding as ‘factcheck’.

    Possibly fair enough as the initial deed had the hallmarks of an own goal. Whether the attack should continue into a second week tests the idea of bias in the taxpayer funded media.


    • JamesArthur says:

      Come on you know the BBC…grab any tiny thing that is against anything that doesn’t fit their agenda and it is like elastic…with all the news happening around the world you would think that Prince Andrew and Fact check were the only things..
      On the subject of Andrew – I have no feelings about him one way or the other but why does the MSM keep showing the picture of him with a 17 yr old girl from years ago which implies he was sleeping with underage girls – she wanted the picture for her mum and dad – and the age of consent in USA is 16…
      Anyone who reads Douglas Murray’s new book will see this type of story in it…Andrew hasn’t been convicted of anything other than knowing Epstein – along with how many 100’s of others including Clinton…but suddenly he is a pariah..and his past good work goes out the window…


      • Deborah says:

        If you think of the political idea of globalists and nationalists then the idea of getting the people to want rid of a monarchy must be high up the globalist agenda. What identifies a country more? The comments on the DM web site on Meghan Markle stories were often visceral about the Monarchy not just the social climber (I am being kind about MM). The stories about Prince Andrew are from the same stable. Yes he has behaved in a sleazy way with young girls but we don’t seem to have similar stories about Bill Clinton who apparently at least 20 times stayed with Epstein.


        • Up2snuff says:

          Deborah, I think you misunderstand or misuse the word globalist and its collective: globalisation.

          It is globalism that wishes to have a world government for the (wealthy) citizens of no-where and every-where.

          Globalisation is trade and co-operation between globalists in sovereign nations as opposed to an isolationist stance.

          There’s a very subtle but distinct difference between the two. Certain parts of the media will no doubt wish to blur that difference. “Oh, hello BBC. I didn’t see you standing there!”


      • G says:

        “….will see this type of story …..”.
        Drag it down and destroy. Which one of the following Communist Rules for Revolution should we apply? No prizes, just appreciate the journey and end product:

        “1. Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial. Destroy their ruggedness.

        2. Get control of all means of publicity.

        3. Get people’s minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and other trivialities.

        4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.

        5. Destroy the people’s faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy.

        6. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.

        7. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit and produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.

        8. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders, and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.

        9. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues, honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.

        10. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscating them and leaving the populace helpless.”


      • Jeff says:

        JamesArthur, I agree with everything you’ve said about the Prince Andrew / Epstein case. However, he was a bloody fool to continue his friendship with him after his conviction.
        I know he’s spoken about his personal sense of loyalty, but the bloke wasn’t convicted of an ordinary felony, but paedophilia…
        I think Andrew is probably arrogant and spoiled and clearly used to doing exactly what he wants.
        And of course the BBC will absolutely love this; another British institution they can try to destroy.
        His interview with the ghastly perma-tanned, superannuated Barbie Doll was a car crash.
        He’s making ammunition for our enemies.
        He’s been an idiot.


        • BRISSLES says:

          The one thing I cannot understand, is why Andrew had to fly to the US to end his friendship with Epstein. Whatever happened to a telephone call ?
          Conspiracy theories may abound in Epstein’s death, but that type of man would have kept diaries, and together with hidden cameras that have been found, I’ll wager there are many a ‘friend’ who are having brown trouser moments at what will be uncovered. Prince Andrew notwithstanding.


      • digg says:

        Whilst it seems Andrew has been a bit reckless you are correct, he hasn’t been tried or convicted. In stark contrast with the 2 recent bad boys Ant McWhatsit and Jonathon Wossy who have both been slipped back into programs nice and quietly…. The BBC knows who it likes and who it doesn’t!


  3. Scroblene says:

    Blimey, I hope Emily Maitlis doesn’t ask to interview me, because she may find out that I snogged a young lady on Bexhill seafront in 1967!

    Funnily enough, after the events of these searching interviews and programmes with ‘slebs’ being taken to task, like the Savile one as well, the bbbc seems to go very, very quiet!

    Presumably I’m not clever enough to understand why, but I bet there are lots of people who really do…


  4. Guest Who says:

    Blimey, Andy really tore her a new one here.


    Oh, no, he didn’t. He fully understood.


  5. Cassandra says:

    The film Blue Story that the wannabe Pakistani gangstas in Birmingham went to see with their machetes and fight each and the police, was produced and financed by a familiar national broadcaster, which means I can’t be critical of the film as I financed it…





    • Beltane says:

      So the fair and honourable thing to do, seeing as the film has been withdrawn by two major cinema franchisers to date – with no doubt more to follow, and probably consigned to history as another costly mistake – would be to deduct the cost from the licence fee and reimburse all those who unwittingly paid for it. And that nice Mr Loach who was probably paid another small fortune as ‘skilled social advisor’ can hand his fee back too.


  6. Ed Hitter says:

    Of course the biased BBC is going to ensure that a side issue such as Twittergate runs and runs – that’s how it shapes it’s supposedly neutral election coverage, picking away at minor Tory indiscretions while ignoring major concerns about the Marxist cabal running Labour.
    For instance, the BBC has failed miserably to follow up the hugely important intervention by former MI6 chief Richard Dearlove who at the weekend said of Corbyn: “Do not even think of taking the risk of handing this politician the keys to No 10….
    “Politicians should have to live with their political record, and Corbyn’s, whatever political views he may claim to hold today, rules him out as someone suitable to be our Prime Minister.”
    So a threat to our national security is not considered election news, but a row about a Twitter handle is. Says it all, doesn’t it?


  7. Ian Rushlow says:

    BBC ‘boasts’ of its role in machete violence… The average person might think of machete-wielding gangs as being associated with, say, Katanga province in the Congo during the 1960s, but the multiculturalists want you to feel the enrichment and vibrancy in your own home town. On Saturday, police were called into the Star City cinema multiplex in Birmingham, amidst reports of youths with machetes. The initial reporting by the BBC was low-key, but as ever when there is a dirty secret to hide, they drip-feed additional information when they have to and can’t get away with it. So what was the movie that caused this ‘traditional British upset’ at the cinema? The latest Disney blockbuster? A new woke-reboot of The Carry On Series?
    Nope. It was a movie called ‘Blue Story’, written and directed by one Andrew Onwubolu, described as a ‘rapper-turned-filmmaker’. It is about so-called postcode gang warfare. And who is behind this contemporary masterpiece? Step forward BBC Films, an organisation that bills itself as “work(ing) closely with filmmakers throughout the creative process, offering rigorous opportunity to new filmmakers and a protected, collaborative space for established voices”. According to said BBC Films, it is an “outstanding, critically acclaimed debut feature which powerfully depicts the futility of gang violence”.

    No. Even if that was the intention of those behind it, any film that covers black gang violence has the effect of glamourising it, whether that is the intention or not. As does the BBC’s constant glamourising of the cringeworthy ‘music’ it promotes on its radio stations and openly-racist BBC 1Xtra station. The BBC should not be doing this, full stop, no debate.


    (Sorry Cassandara, great mind think alike etc)


    • Cassandra says:

      Excellent examination of the film and the lengths the BBC will go to impose multicuralism and diversity on the populace, regardless of the the cost that might be to innocent people, including the police who have to face down the machete wielding thugs, Ian.
      Ou politicians should be protecting us and the BBC should be hauled before a committee to give reasons for funding this violent crap.
      Meanwhile black people are queuing up to phone Nick Ferrari to justify the film, spouting the same BS that young black men are the victims.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I’ve seen the film and the bit where the 7 delightful children burst into song and sing about their ‘favourite things ‘ is a joy to be hold … or have I got the wrong film . As I write this huge meetings are taking place in the BBC citadel to discuss the ‘cultural impact ‘ of their film.

        Meanwhile the various machete wounds received by the plod who had to deal with these ‘children ‘ will need their stitches out in a few days . Despair .


    • tarien says:

      This rubbish should never have seen the light of day. Over 200 years ago the great city of Birmingham was famous for building steam engines to power the industrial revolution. Fifty years ago, the city was famous for motor manufacture, exporting cars and trucks around the world.
      Today, Birmingham echoes not to the sound of heavy machinery, but to the Islamic call to prayer, and the city’s most famous export is jihadis. The ruling class fear Islam, as well as the BBC, they fear the blood-spattering violence that sporadically erupts from Islamic communities, they fear the threat of such violence… and so they do nothing, leaving future generations to deal with the toxic mess they’ve created.
      As long as our rulers fear Islam more than they fear the will of the indigenous British people, nothing is going to change.


  8. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Woossie Wimmin

    JustRemainIn Webb is talking Dickens and Woossie Wimmin. Apparently A Christmas Carol has been reworked to remove a Gender Sin. The author’s great-great-great-grandaughter approves.

    Oh joy! Time for a Tiny Tim moment.

    “And God bless (and save!) us all.”


  9. Square-Eyed says:

    Ethical Standards in Politics

    Much has been said recently about the standards of our MPs these days, along the lines of “You can’t trust what any of them say any more.” That may be true, but surely standards have also fallen among among political journalists? We are well aware of the continuing interruption of politicians of a particular persuasion, such that they can hardly string a single sentence together. Then there are the journalist “questions” that are so long they could well be arguments for the other side of the divide. I also have noticed a trend towards unanswerable questions built on false premises, “What do you have to say, Mr Johnson, to the five million nurses who won’t be able to afford more than a ham sandwich for their Christmas dinner this year?” Perhaps such a question should be termed a “rigby.”


    • Scroblene says:

      Ha ha ha, Square!

      Perhaps such a question should be termed a “rigby.”

      The answer could be called a ‘Humphrey’, after Yes Minister’s superbly acted civil servant!


    • Fedup2 says:

      Square – great stuff – I think you have spotted the evolution of BBC questioning techniques now that too many of us have become familiar with the lesser spotted “some say “ and the accompanying “ it had been said “ ….

      Personally I’ve being gagging for any politician of any hew – when it with the Tourette’s Robinson “some say “ to reply – “ ok – who said ?” And see what happens from there….

      And as regards your reference to a ham sandwich – surely you should be a bit more sensitive due various types being disqualified from eating ham – what about a ‘bread sandwich ‘ ? Yummy …. is that a ‘rigby ‘?


  10. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – Non-Woossie Wimmin

    Our Bee-Lady Martha is on a CO2 expressing, fuel-burning, taxpayer freebie jolly to Antarctica. Antarctica is one of the most hostile places on the planet to Wimmin (and Min*, too). No woossies in Antarctica.

    Martha is talking to a Wimmin scientist. The Wimmin Scientist is not a real scientist because she demands to know the future. If she was a proper scientist, she would know that humans can never know the future with any certainty.

    * NZ accent is most suitable there.


  11. brexiteerkent says:

    Article after article praises the ‘ Muslim’ ( emphasising this) woman who intervened on the tube but they refer only to ‘ gangs’ when discussing the cinema riot, never ‘ African/Black’ gangs.


  12. G says:

    Did I hear correctly at about 0825 on Toady? I’m sure that I heard an interview to discuss the rewriting of ‘A Christmas Carol’ to cast Scrooge as a female. Apparently, other characters have been changed as well. I guess we know what that means. Our Marxist State Broadcaster seems happy as the changes follow its own Marxist leanings so no criticisms/tough questions.
    I’m looking forward to the time the BBC interview the author of a totally revised Quaran where that cults master of ceremonies and his messenger are then all assumed to be women. Can’t wait…………………………


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      It is possible. What is very noticeable is that three of the major retailers – Tesco, Sainsburys, John Lewis/Waitrose – have chosen identical themes for their Christmas adverts. Rather than try and out-do each other on how many ethnic, inappropriate and sometimes downright offensive characters they can incorporate, they have gone for something more subtle. They portray a more traditional Christmas from times gone by to reassure the main population – obviously no Christian symbolism, of course – but with a handful of ethnics woven in, just to show they have always been here and part of olde-Britain (no Victorian village would be complete without its 10% BAME characters). This is hardly a matter of accident and no, they do not share the same advertising agency. Rather, someone has sat down and thought this through, much the same as the Nazis did prior to the 1936 Olympics (they removed all ‘inappropriate’ materials for the benefit of foreign visitors). Whilst the BBC will be fully onboard with this, being the BBC they would see a bit of opportunity for some gender-bending and a more ‘woke’ rewriting of history and culture that appeals to the Junior Common Room mentality.


      • JimS says:

        Noting your comment about Nazis removing inappropriate material reminds me of an aquaintance who was contracted a few years ago by a well-know German car maker to remove all connections to Nazi Germany from its photo archive.

        Rather like Rolls-Royce claiming never to have held a royal warrant I think.


    • Zelazek says:

      To these arty-farty lefties, race and gender don’t matter. They are sociological optical illusions. The day will come when someone like Neil Armstrong is played by a black woman.


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        It would make sense to have Neil Armstrong portrayed as a black woman. Experts now know that the entire Apollo moon programme was down to just three African-American women. They’ve even made a movie about it so it must be true.

        Note: I have been asked to point out that the moon landing may have been a hoax. In which case, it would all be down to white men only.


  13. Doobster78 says:

    Caught a absolutely sickening piece of BIAS / Agenda pushing on BBC Breakfast this morning.

    Reporter was in Fishlake. A area badly affected by the recent floods. Amazingly, he managed to turn it into a 4 minute Anti Boris, Climate Change agenda pushing circus.

    He was interviewing residents who’s homes were flooded. Asking them if they could trust the Government to listen to them, of course, they couldn’t !!! Boris is a liar, he doesnt know what its like to be flooded. After a few Anti Boris soundbites, he moved the report onto linking the weather to climate change. He asked one bloke if he thought that climate change was the cause of the recent floods and if it will sway his vote at the election, fair do’s to the fella, he said it was just a freak event (correct) and would have no impact on his voting intention. Reporter asks him will Brexit have a effect, the chap said i hope so, you could sense he was a Brexiteer so clearly the BBC didnt want this so cut him off sharpish.

    Report ended with them speaking to who else, but Ex-stink-tion rebellion !!! Its all down to climate change, she is voting to make sure she has a future, blah blah blah , music the the Beeboids ears. And with that, the lecture / propaganda ended.

    Sickening stuff. And they wonder why they are losing viewers hand over fist.


  14. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – Wild Wimmin attack the Conservative Party Manifesto and a Conservative Wimmin

    The whole theme of this morning’s programme, since I switched on at 7.40a.m.-ish, has been Bojo Is A Liar, how can we trust the Tory Manifesto because Bojo Is A Liar and the Manifesto is not what the Conservatives have been saying for the last three months and that Bojo Is A Liar.


    Well Bojo does ‘shoot his mouth off’ in between his stammers and leaps of Classical imagination. However, I can think of other politicians who do similar: John Healy (Lab) is equally guilty and was on the programme this morning. He did not get the treatment, a Mishal Mauling, that Wild Mishal Wimmin afforded Conservative Party Wimmin, brave, staunch, Nicky Morgan.

    And Wild Wimmin Mishal and her colleagues did not go after The Sweater or The Wee Hen in the same fashion, if I recall correctly.

    Impartial BBC?


    Can the BBC be trusted?



    • G says:

      Bojo? Listen to what (Prof.) Simon Heffer has to say about him.

      Well worth a watch. There’s still some sanity around in this current vacuum.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Thanks, G. May have to watch later; things to do, places to go, people to see.


        Simon Heffer has some added Hefft (and added some Hefft!) since the Snuffy household stopped watching TV.


  15. Doobster78 says:

    Dear BBC , the ordinary man / woman on the street DO NOT give a toss !!!! This is only news in the BBC bubble.


    • StewGreen says:

      Is that BBC story news or PR ?

      When they want to air a narrative, they phone around a string of authority voices until they get one that agrees with the narrative and they air that one, and keep silent about the ones that disagreed.


  16. StewGreen says:

    R4 9:21am now Marr said
    “Right now Venice is having a terrible time with Global Warming”
    ..throwaway line the conversation was about Brittan’s operas.

    Ineresting comment from the start
    Talking about Brittan they spoke of his love for this 13 year old boy.

    Another comment
    \\ @AndrewMarr9 @BBCRadio4
    ‘talking of Jeffrey Epstein and the Prince Andrew scandal,
    let’s talk about love and lust’.
    Since when has trafficking children had anything to do with love or lust,
    you twisted f***? //
    about 6 people complain likewise


  17. SkeptikEye says:

    Recently I have watched with fear and trepidation these two You Tube videos about the issue of free speech/expression.

    Barbara Wood // National Conference 2019 // For Britain

    UK Police Arrest British Blogger for Insulting Moslems

    Are you all prepared for that dawn ‘knock’ on your door?


  18. StewGreen says:

    In a twenty second R4 trailer Sima Kotecha just stuck the word DIVERSITY in so many times
    will the panel and views be actually diverse ?


  19. Doobster78 says:

    More diversity from the BBC picture department !! Well found , job done.


    General election 2019: Labour vows to cap rent rises for private tenants



    • Zelazek says:

      Is it my imagination or do most of these BBC interracial couple tropes depict a black man and a white woman rather than the opposite? If so, I wonder why that is.
      They are clearly trying to normalise this kind of thing. But I hate it. In my own (white) family, there was a male who married a black woman. They eventually divorced. The main reason given was because she missed her own people.
      Both races should be pushing back against this sly BBC propaganda.


  20. G.W.F. says:

    This piece about climate change from the Conservative Manifesto suggests that the Tories are not ready to take on the BBC



  21. StewGreen says:

    Local news “greenhouse gases are at record highs”
    … Is that news ?

    There has been no worldwide reduction in worldwide emissions
    nor enough new trees planted.
    So every day CO2 % grows a tiny tiny fraction if nature is in balance.
    So of course CO2 continues to grow up
    from 0.000,000,000,37% to say 0.000,000,407 %
    Most growth is probably in the sea, so say there was a big increase in algae CO2 might fall
    Likewise the other way is possible.

    Then the station brought on their gardening hone in expert to say without trees we couldn’t breathe.


    • Old Goat says:

      I think water vapour remains at 90 odd percent, and that’s the only one of any significance. Would they like us to reduce that to net zero, as well? Life would be impossible with no CO2, but non-existent with no water vapour.


      • Up2snuff says:

        OG, water vapour has been rather plentiful in my part of the South-East for the past three months.

        Could do with a wee reduction for a while.

        Funny thing, only this Winter’s-end/early Spring (when the last drought started in the same South-East of England) the Global Alarmists claimed it would probably never rain again and we would all shrivel and dry out and die and there would be no water left to drink.

        Trust you are well, dry and snug – just in case the Mistral hits hard this winter.


      • StewGreen says:

        @OldGoat, Good point, I just checked the news
        They opened with
        There is a WARNING that levels of Greenhouse Gases in the atmosphere have reached new record highs,
        the WMO have said it is part of a long term trend
        which is set to drive increasingly severe impacts of climate change

        (Not true cos they haven’t measured GHG, she means GHG excluding water vapour)

        “meanwhile there are calls for more to be done to increase the number of trees in East Yorkshire
        …. DS the Radio Humberside gardening expert explains the importance of trees saying one tree can store 20Kg of carbon”

        “They breathe out oxygen, that is the first thing that they do
        which is really fantastic,
        because otherwise we’d use up all the oxygen and *we’d suffocate*
        so trees keep up breathing
        and they also store carbon “

        *(That sounds like dramaqueening, cos it’s not just trees it’s all green life,
        and a hell of a lot of that is in the ocean,
        so even with zero trees the planet would still have a lot of green life. )


    • StewGreen says:

      9am they led with student lecturers strike
      next – slaves selling cigarettes in Hull
      – Tree report our area has a low count of 5% compared to national average of 13%
      – The N Express coach service to London has been scrapped
      (Very strange they didn’t mention Megabus still run)


  22. Cassandra says:

    Looks like the virtue signallers and diversity mongers are after Eamon Holmes now for using the word “Uppity” to describe Meghan Markle.


    This book by Roger Hargreaves was released in 1972 and nothing at all was said about the title in the intervening forty-seven years.


    Now Linda Bellos the deranged mixed race, radical feminist lesbian, mad cat woman and professional race baiter who is older than me made not one single critical comment about the meaning of the word “Uppity” in all those years.
    Yet this morning she was ranting on LBC that it is an acknowledged extreme racist slur even though, as we can see from Hargreaves tome the word has been in usage for several decades in this country.

    The Cambridge Dictionary defines the adjective “Uppity”, thus:

    “An uppity person behaves in an unpleasant way because they think that they are more important than they really are.”

    I think we have reached a point now where there is an active apartheid at work where black people can use certain words in rap and drill music or in general conversation and yet if I as a white person was to use it, I would be labelled a racist; e.g. “Oh look, there’s Wing Commander Guy Gibson’s faithful canine chum Ni****.”


    • Scroblene says:

      Quite right, Cassandra!

      My dear sister used to play this song on the piano, and called it ‘Uppidee’!

      Naturally, the bbbc wouldn’t have thought of transmitting this, so here’s The Muppets’ version…


  23. Fedup2 says:

    The twitter feed of the weekend has to be that of a Tory campaigner being verbally abused by a third worlder along with the words ‘you should move to a white country mate ‘.

    Now I’m sure all the BBC local phone ins and day TV is full of replays of this clip ….

    I’m sure the 2am troll will correct my reporting of the exact words used …and I won’t be losing sleep over that if it keeps the subject alive .


  24. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    This morning on radio bbc Newcastle they were talking about the new britbox service and what you are not now allowed to watch on it.
    It ain’t half hot mum and the like.

    There’s lots of shows that have been withdrawn because there has been a complaint by some snowflake, sometimes because of only just one complaint. We’ve all heard of this type of reason for not showing something.


    I don’t like swearing on tv which seems to have become quite normal.
    F this and F that.
    I would never have dared to use such words in front of my parents or in decent company yet they are used in almost every drama (amongst other things) on tv.

    Now, if I was a snowflake like lots of the youngsters of today who need safe spaces to run off and cry in when somebody says something that upsets them, could I write to the tv companies complaining about this and would they withdraw every show I complained about?
    I think not.
    They seem to be very selective with what they regard as offensive.

    Of course, I don’t want them to withdraw any show.
    Live and let live.
    It’s just that it’s annoying when the usual bunch of snowflakes seem to control what the rest of us might want to watch.
    If they don’t like it and they easily get upset, don’t watch it.


    • R P McMurphy says:

      Will they be including, the Major on Fawlty Towers explaining the difference between the Indian and West Indian cricketers or Dell Boys ref’ to the corner “P*ki” shop or even Monty Pythons sketch with the word “N*gger Baiter” used several times. I also remember the ( so called ) comedian Charlie Williams used the term “J*wboy” in one of his jokes on the Comedians, he will probably get a bye being what he was.


    • JimS says:

      I see our beloved Channel 4 was trailing The End Of The F***ing World at the weekend. Such a clever and original title!

      Most American films manage to get in a few ‘f’s before the titles and the ‘s’ word can mean good or bad and act as noun, verb or adjective. Neither of which would have been considered polite in mixed company or in conversation with a stranger, yet are now the stock-in-trade of all BBC ‘comedians’.


      • TrickCyclist says:

        I never heard expletives on the telly until we got a video recorder in 1981 and started renting films. M*A*S*H? I’d never heard the like from Alan Alda in the TV version. It’s all different now – apparently even the latest iteration of Star Trek has dropped F-bombs onscreen. Beam me the f*** up, Scotty!
        I believe Hollywood films will include one F-word to gain a PG-13 certificate at American cinemas – to target a wide (but non-kiddy) audience.


  25. Doobster78 says:

    Lammy time


  26. Fedup2 says:

    Small toady watch – listening whilst departing blighty – I caught an early exchange between an American journo – how didn’t sound like the usual metro snowflake and our just – about the news that Bloomberg has announced he is standing for president as a democrat .

    The exchange concentrated on three key factors which will doom him – namely being male white and rich .

    I was a bit taken back by the cavalier discussion of the race and gender bias but it seems okay if it’s a ‘bloke ‘ just don’t say anything about a coloured girl( see eamon Holmes – funny world. ),,….


  27. Terminal Moraine says:

    Sorry if this has already been posted —

    A video promo on the home page explaining how ‘Muslims can be influential in December’s general election’. Which is just the BBC regurgitating the Guardian article from last week. Which is just the Guardian regurgitating ‘research’ by the Muslim Council of Britain.

    The beeb joins “a guided tour of London, which looks at how Islam has influenced culture in the capital, and spoke with Muslim voters on the tour about the issues that mattered most to them.” It turns out the hot political issues that matter most to them are all Islamophobia. Who would have guessed?

    How did the BBC respond to a Jewish Chronicle front page earlier this month urging voters to look seriously at Corbyn’s anti-semitism? With a video on the home page showing how Judaism has influenced culture in the capital, and speaking with Jewish voters about the issues that matter to them most?

    No, the only videos show Corbyn and McDonnell refuting it all… the latter saying he was “sad about it” and that Labour was doing “everything they asked of us” to tackle anti-Semitism.


    • Not Gwent says:

      All the news, interviews and shouty audiences of ‘ordinary people’ matter not one jot when tribalism is king.

      Which tribe are we and where will our block vote go?


      • Terminal Moraine says:

        NG, I feel the same. I’m in a marginal seat so my vote is made by default but it’s a long way away from my tribe


  28. StewGreen says:

    Re Sweeney ..& TR
    Conspiracy Theorist : Someone who has a dogmatic position,
    but doesn’t have proper evidence
    so they shout “Yeh it’s True, it’s true ! but the reason why I don’t have proper evidence is is it’s a grand conspiracy so everything is covered up”

    Evidenced Conspiracy Theory : When you come with evidence that there is a conspiracy eg Project Veritas undercover filming about CNN staff/management conspiring to push anti-Trump narrative at all costs.

    Look at this Talk Radio story
    *Sacked* BBC journalist demands investigation into broadcaster

    Among Mr Sweeney’s accusations he said BBC Panorama decided not to air
    a report on right-wing activist Tommy Robinson
    that suggested he was being directly funded by Kremlin money.

    BTW That is interesting that an MSM source refers to Sweeney as “sacked”


  29. Terminal Moraine says:

    Another one on the home page: “The Japanese Christians forced to trample on Christ.”

    When it comes to the wrong kind of religious oppression, the BBC are happy to chat mostly when it comes hundreds of years ago and from the other side of the world. Like a 6th-form sociology meetup, they radiate approved outrage from a distance whilst blind to unsavoury things actually happening here and now.


  30. fakenewswatcher says:

    I notice on ‘South Africa today’ that “White farmers are being systematically slaughtered in South Africa”.
    Since this is not something your friendly, local beeb bulletin is going to touch with a bargepole, the perpetrators and victims being the opposite races of the narrative they prefer for this sort of story, some figures: by 7 November 2019, there had already been 376 farm attacks with 36 murders for that year. You can visit the website for details if you wish.
    These attacks are usually accompanied by brutal assaults, mostly to ghastly to describe. Latests victims on 19 November were a Boskop, Gauteng, farmer who was shot dead, with the female victim stabbed in the head, badly beaten, tied up and tortured.
    The silence from our noble MSM, defender of worthy causes, is deafening. The SA government denies this is happening.
    Zimbabwe 2.0 could well be under way.
    It seems SA has to be reduced to another African basket case, as Whites stream out?


  31. Thoughtful says:



  32. Celtic_Mist says:

    BBC is on about ‘Black Friday’ manipulation. It has an ‘expert’ from some university explaining how. Apparently it has something to do with our psychology.

    Something to look forward to –

    ‘The best presenter/interviewer now at the BBC is clearly Emily Maitlis…will get her chance to show her mettle on BBC One when she is handed the election results baton from Edwards at about 10am on the day after the vote. It’s a shame that she hasn’t been given the chance to chair one of the two forthcoming pre-election debates on BBC One with the party leaders – Nick Robinson is handling both.


  33. Peter Sausages says:

    I have noticed most of the beeboids are wearing Labour red clothes again.


    • Guest Who says:

      To match their eyes after they ‘celebrate’ rigging another election? Hope the corridor floors are reinforced.


  34. vlad says:

    Blue Story, one of those ‘edgy’ ‘gritty’ films beloved by the beeb, that purports to condemn BAME gang violence but actually glorifies it, has sparked, erm, BAME gang violence at its opening.
    The police and the beeb are baffled as to why.
    It has been pulled from at least 2 cinema chains. Good. May it tank at the box-office and lose the wretched beeb its investment.



  35. Roland Deschain says:

    And as if by clockwork, the BBC has played the race card.

    A reminder of who the cinemas are trying to keep away.

    Don’t the cinema owners realise it’s their cultural right to indulge in role play, in the same way white people dress up to see the Rocky Horror Picture Show?


    • Guest Who says:

      Especially as it is actually, according to the director, via my local radio Sky Tripe feed…. ‘all about love’.



    • vlad says:

      So a film about savage violence triggers more savage violence.
      Cinema chains do the only sensible thing to avoid further savage violence, and this is seen as… racist?!?!


      • Roland Deschain says:

        Everything is seen as racist if it deflects from the obvious conclusion. Which is that if you import Third World attitudes….


      • tarien says:

        Racisim against who? The Whites of course. Can’t see one TV prog or advertisment that dosen’t feature a cloured person, often one male coloured and one white female. As the song once sung said, ‘Coffee coloured people by the score.’ White indigenous folk soon will be the minority in their own traditional land-those countries that whites once colonised, the indig peoples remained the majority; soon the reversewill be the case in the UK and in Europe.


  36. digg says:

    Fascinating watching the BBC trying desperately to come out of the Blue Story debacle the right way up.

    Gradually the push is towards branding the Cinema chains as “Racist” for banning the screenings,

    For God’s sake BBC, people showed up at the screening with Machetes and attacked the Police.



    • Guest Who says:

      Maybe… if the BBC invited all the local youth out on a paint-balling outing?



  37. Beltane says:

    And yet, odd though it may be, News at One attributed scenes from the film to ‘Paramount’ with no mention of the rather direct and embarrassing link to BBC Films.
    Anyone might be inclined to think that some level of deliberate deception is involved, so its surprising they don’t see parallels with that Twitter business – but no doubt St Timothy Berners-Lee will be able to clarify.


    • Guest Who says:

      Easily explained.

      BBC ‘Editorial Integrity’ – finding all the time or space required to bang on about what suits, but suddenly getting very economical with both, and truth, when serious deep-sixing is necessary.


  38. Guest Who says:

    My lunchtime surf saw every other post a promoted Labour one.

    Someone either has deep pockets or loyal friends.

    Like the BBC.


  39. The General says:

    Labour :
    “Unemployment is still too high and too many of those in work are on zero hours contracts.”

    ” We will not put any limit on immigration as we urgently need these people to fill the thousands of vacancies in the NHS and Education.”

    So how are these two statements compatible ?

    Also :
    SNP will have an “arrangement” to support Labour in forming a government in the case of a hung parliament but will insist on a referendum for Scottish independence.

    OK so that happens, Scotland vote to leave and implement it. Result Corbyn no longer has a majority…..How does that work then ?


  40. Sluff says:

    It’s context free time at the BBC.
    They report that University Lecturers are on strike over pay snd pensions. Well at least one cheer for rightly linking them together (unlike workers in the NHS, schools, who conveniently forget to mention their pension provision when whingeing about pay).
    They also report that employer contributions have risen from 18% to 21% of salary.
    But what the BBC conveniently fail to do is compare with the private sector.
    OK. Hands up all those private sector workers who get a 21% contribution to their defined contribution pension scheme?
    Just as I thought. No-one.
    And hands up if you have a job for life?

    The public sector is consistently featherbedded and the BBC studiously ignore the fact.


    • Kaiser says:

      as a uni worker, many of us see this strike and its timing as purely political.

      as for striking at universities about pensions, we in the office have pointed out they should be picketing the USS offices demanding change as they are the ones destroying the scheme with their complete and utter incompetence.

      I dont know if the BBC has mentioned it , but the strike is also about jobs being outsourced to the third world, or in some case outsourced to companies who import the third world to do the jobs on-site.

      is it kinda odd to see the woke , right on, workers rights, gay rights, trans rights, diversity obsessed universities not give a s**t about its staff, or is that just me.


  41. Rob in Cheshire says:

    I heard a very nice and fair interview on Today this morning.

    It was with two American chaps who have a book out about Russiagate and the Christopher Steele dossier.

    Guess what? It’s all true!

    Yes, although that dope Mueller spent two years investigating it, only to find there was nothing there, these two geniuses have discovered that it was all true after all. Even the bit about the prostitutes peeing on the bed.

    They don’t seem to have got the memo that the Russiagate hoax is dead, and that it’s the Ukrainegate hoax that is now the way to impeach Trump. It seems that Trump is indeed Putin’s puppet, which can be seen by the way he expelled dozens of Russian diplomats and imposed sanctions on Russia after Salisbury, just as you would expect a puppet to do.

    Anyway, the main thing is that these two have a book out, and out of the hundreds of books published every week, the BBC decided that this particular book merited a friendly and uncritical plug on the BBC’s “flagship” news programme.

    Double plus good comrades. Together we will get rid of the bad orange man from the White House!


    • The General says:

      And he ended up by saying ” but he will probably get re-elected for another term due to the way our system is structured.”

      Yes Mr Democrat, it’s called democracy. The people get to vote and the winner gets elected.


  42. Doobster78 says:

    Our very own Roland nails it !! Because the Police just aren’t busy enough !!!


  43. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    The film causing the trouble in Birmingham is described as a love story with rival gangs.

    I suppose it’s only right that West Side Story should also be banned as it’s the same.
    Of course, WSS is based on Romeo and Juliet (by that far right nazi Shakespeare, calling Othello Sooty bosom was also one of his lines) so I would expect that to be also banned.

    When you think about it there’s reasons to ban everything so why not shut everything up, close down all broadcasters and media just in case somebody somewhere might feel upset about something.

    Ban everything.


  44. G.W.F. says:

    Does this mean that we are staying for yet another year?

    ”’Boris Johnson has put No Deal back on the table in the conservative Manifesto! ‘We will not extend the implementation period beyond December 2020.’ Thank You Nigel Farage!”’



    • theisland says:

      Ah yes, the dreaded ‘transition period’ – currently set between January 2020 when we ‘leave’ and December 2020, during which time we are still subject to all EU rules/regs/laws.
      Only a clean break with NO TRANSITION would have saved our territorial waters/fishing and defence/security.
      This is why BoJo’s WA is May version 2 BRINO.
      If there are no Brexit Party MPs returned we are still essentially without any voice in Parliament.


  45. StewGreen says:

    Lincoln : I see the radio described Hope not hate has been described in the news as “a group which labels itself as fighting fascism”

    I know they are Labour front group used to smear political opponents with the label “far right”, just the same way as smearing a black person by using the N-word, but I was surprised the BBC was not doing their normal cutting and pasting of HnH material.

    The news went “There has been calls for the Suspension of Lincoln Tory candidate Karl McCartney , a group which labels itself as fighting fascism have claimed he endorsed far-right tweets.

    I see a local lefty newspaper does cutNpaste HnH .
    It starts off by implying he retweeted TR
    but then it reveals actually there was a degree of separation he “shared tweets from Katie Hopkins over the course of a few months, including one where she defended Tommy Robinson.”

    “Karl McCartney was screenshotted sharing the views of Paul Joseph Watson, another *far-right activist* who criticises Islam, feminism and left-wing politics.

    FFS dehumanising people by implying they are Nazis
    is just as bad as dehumanising black people by reffing to them by derogatory labels like the N-word


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Anyone who agrees with Tommy, Katie and PJW is someone I would happily vote for.

      Unlike people who work for the BBC, I have a brain and am allowed to use it to reach my own conclusions. I don’t need the BBC or a bunch of hard left social justice warriors to make my mind up for me.


  46. StewGreen says:

    Local news also said FakeNews has hit a local Lincoln memorial project
    A number of national newspaper articles claimed a tribute window to the Dambusters and the Red Arrows had been scrapped because the Diocese of Lincoln was worried it was “too triumphalist“.
    Members of the group behind the window, who have set up a crowdfunding page hoping to raise £19,000, say the plans are still going ahead.


  47. Guest Who says:

    No taxation without representation.

    Interestingly the public have zero say on the BBC.

    Meanwhile the BBC appears to be doing all in its power to drive votes from those whose tax contributions might err lower than many, for various reasons.

    I was surprised to find out that, along with all the other fraud mechanisms not just allowed but apparently encouraged, often by state institutions, NI numbers are not required.

    The silent striving majority do not deserve all the Conservatives are driving our way.


  48. Guest Who says:

    Now, which parties are most behind such roles?



    • Scroblene says:

      Love it, Guest!

      I used to work with an old boy, who said that his preferred job would be ‘A tea-taster in a brothel’!

      We’ve got several of the Speccie’s people here at KCC I’m afraid…


  49. G.W.F. says:

    According to the BBC climate change is causing Victoria Falls to dry up.
    ”Could Victoria Falls dry up?
    The effects of severe drought and climate change are having an impact on one of the world’s great natural wonders, Victoria Falls.
    Elisha Moyo, Principal Climate Change Researcher at Zimbabwe’s Ministry of Environment, Climate and Tourism, tells Hardtalk’s Stephen Sackur that the average flow over the falls in 2019 is down by almost 50%
    Mr Moyo said: “The low falls are becoming more frequent…
    “Who knows maybe one year there will be no falls completely

    But wait. ”This is totally untrue. Vic Falls has not dried up, and a ‘dry’ falls is, in fact, part of a very normal, yearly cycle. There is always water (lots of it) on the Zimbabwean side of Victoria Falls, and late in the dry season (October/November), very little water reaches the Zambian side of the Falls.”



    • Fedup2 says:

      Toady sent the bee lady to the Antarctic ( airmiles) to tell the listeners about things melting – my favourite .
      Whoever came up with that wheeze obviously really wanted to spend our winter in the Australian summer – but am I a cynic .