539 Responses to Midweek Thread 29 April 2020

  1. Fedup2 says:

    Lojo I bet you are right ….. really glad I stopped it years ago – I notice they don’t offer an alternative method of cancelling .

       3 likes

  2. Mackers says:

    It’s clear to me china is faking the coronavirus in china and has spread this disease deliberately around the world to get at donald trump.His policies and tarriffs have decimated china’s economic ambitions,the communists will try anything to stop him being re-elected.The truth will come out eventually and the bbc will reluctantly have to mention it very quickly and then try and ignore it.

       24 likes

    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Mackers – bbc covering for Communists? Surely not!

         5 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Mackers, the numbers on the Johns Hopkins inter-active appear to indicate deliberate infection of the USA. Whether it was China or not who knows? Both Italy and Spain have links with the US and may be ‘disguising’ China’s involvement.

      It is curious how both President Trump and Prime Minister Johnson have both been attacked by their domestic and each others media. I wonder if that has happened elsewhere?

         10 likes

  3. theleftwilleatitself says:

    You can hear the collective groan the other end of the Mersey tunnel up hear every late afternoon as Dominic/Priti/Matt say “and now we’ll take some questions from the press” ????
    Seriously, from what I can gather resentment is gathering pace quickly amongst the GBP towards these self-centered and self-serving idiots calling themselves ‘journalists’ ????
    You’ve only got to be watching the Facebook stream live to see how the ‘watching’ numbers tumble when the 3 wise monkeys start up with their “are you going to apologise for not apologising….” etc, etc!
    Tossers the lot ????

       39 likes

  4. Celtic_Mist says:

    This is a BBC Media statement on the Panorama program –
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/statements/panorama-mon-27-apr

    It claims that the findings were put to the government minister interviewed on the next morning’s Today programme
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000hmfh

    I have gone through the episode at can’t find it nor could anyone else

       10 likes

  5. digg says:

    The Daily Mail are now running the story of the scandalous BBC Panorama PPE attack from the 100% Labour activists featured.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8270999/How-Panorama-infiltrated-Left-BBC-interviewed-five-medics-Labour-links-PPE.html

    The response from the BBC so far is silence and we all know that BBC silence = refusal to acknowledge = guilt.

    This really does need raising in Parliament, they are supposed to be our National news broadcaster not the organ of the hard-left labour activist brigade.

    They keep going lower and lower, it has to end with their demotion or demise.

       38 likes

    • Beltane says:

      The most effective government action would be to move the 16.30 Coronavirus Update to ITV. Such a simple action would deliver a monumental slap and give the public a much needed confidence boost. This, combined with the PM treating the usual banal ‘gotchas’ with a barked ‘Next question!’ would change the game irrevocably.

         29 likes

    • fakenewswatcher says:

      digg – No surprises!

         2 likes

  6. The Sage says:

    From the BBC news feed:

    Northern Ireland death toll rises by nine
    A further nine people have died with Covid-19 in hospitals in Northern Ireland, latest daily figures show.

    It takes the total number of deaths to 347.

    Northern Ireland health minister Robin Swann said the nation “remains on a knife edge” and urged people to stay home.

    So just nine deaths across NI, yet the province” remains on a knife edge”. Over dramatic, or what?
    Surely more than nine people die in NI every day.
    What’s the betting that all nine had pre-existing medical conditions, were frail and elderly or were a combination of both.

       28 likes

  7. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52484345

    BBC NEWS UK
    2020-04-30 14:30
    Coronavirus: ‘Probable’ government will miss 100,000 test target

    [Gloats the hard left racist BBC.]

    Treating us to a photo of a black female with a mask.

    More gloating.

    Followed by a photo of three people who may have recently returned from a holiday on the surface of Mercury. Other explanations are available.]

    [More gloating, accompanied by a histogram, which, to save BBBC readers the trouble of looking, I will assure you, shows statistics that have Red-Robbo and Witless wetting their little pink undies. Yes even the girls wear pink.]


    Liz’s story: A queue which snaked around the car park

    [Photo of a racial minority member here.]

    Liz Sargent, 65, from Shepton Mallet in Somerset, embarked on a 40-mile round trip to Bristol Airport to get tested after developing Covid-19 symptoms only to find herself waiting in a queue.

    [Liz has a big smile and does not look like a virus victim to me.]

    She said: “After 30 minutes we realised exactly how long that queue was

    [‘cos we are not very bright? or fibbing?]

    – there must have been more than 100 cars waiting in a queue which snaked all around the car park.

    “Then people wearing high-vis jackets appeared and started going round cars with a sign saying the testing facility was over capacity and to make an appointment for another day.”

    After trying to book again she was told the next available was on Friday, her seventh day of self-isolation and outside of the testing window.

    “I was left feeling angry, disappointed and very frustrated by this mismanagement and waste of time,” she said.

    [It is 198.3 miles from Shepton Mallet to Peterborough
    Which is where Liz Sargeant lives.
    uk.linkedin.com/in/liz-sargeant-obe-b874036
    Liz Sargeant OBE
    Clinical lead health and social care integration ECIST NHSE/I
    Peterborough, United Kingdom500+ connections
    Wrong one, this one ate all the pies though!

    https://www.needhampoulier.co.uk/
    This Liz Sargeant is a solicitor. Similar looks to the virus candidate.
    Not similar enough.

    Other Liz Sargeants behind paywalls and my nose is telling me this is yet another BBC stitch up.]

       24 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      LCS, “and my nose is telling me this is yet another BBC stitch up”

      yes, especially so, when tbomk [ that’s ‘to the best of my knowledge’ roughly equiv. (that’s equivalent, Fed) to AFAIK ‘as far as I know’, Fed, – I hope you have stopped twitching now 😉 🙂 ] you have to make an appointment for a Covid-19 test. You cannot just turn up and queue.

         7 likes

  8. BRISSLES says:

    Another case of “there is no support from the Government” , and “the Government needs to help”.

    Ha ! this time its from Obesity Uk, – its been highlighted that a third of sufferers of Covid19 are obese. Whether its true or not, a spokeswoman has said ‘we need more help from the Government’. To do what exactly ????

    God on a bike, every whinger from the dancing flea organisation to Posh Spice’s vanity project wants a handout from the government, but its really me, the tax payer.

    Well, if these organisations/charities cant get a handle on their affairs, then they shouldn’t be in existence at all. In Obesity UK, there should be only one mantra – stop the deliveries from Deliveroo and stay away from the fridge.

       34 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      Agree Brissles

      The BBC seem very adept at finding whingers..I don’t watch or listen to much these days expect contribute here 🙂 but I usually have to switch off pretty quickly due to whingers and whiners…or of course the usual BBC narrative

         18 likes

    • Kaiser says:

      if we dont get back to work soon, there wont be any obese people for much longer

         11 likes

    • Absolute Shower says:

      I like the title of a programme on Freeview – I’ve never seen it – called “It’s Your Fault I’m Fat”.

         2 likes

  9. Kaiser says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/52479360

    lets hope there are no reversing and parking tests involved 🙂

    I do wonder how they are going to recharge these devices, which probably explains why the races are two days instead of twenty

       3 likes

    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      K
      “The series said it wanted to promote “gender equality and a level playing field” within motorsport.”

      Bollox, 50% of the best drivers (men) are effectively being eliminated because of their sex.
      In the good old days lap times were recorded, the fastest candidates progressed, everybody else went home.
      If some of the rejects were women, so be it.

      This is the same policy that promoted feeble bodied pussy munchers like Cressida Dick beyond their competence.
      Despite her lack of competence risking the lives of real police officers.

      When John McEnroe stated that Serena Williams would be ranked 700 he was wrong.
      If there were no female only tournaments Williams would not be ranked at all.

      Girls do not believe the “hard done by mantra” you are fed. If you can beat the men (all the men), you can name your price.

      The promoters will beat a path to your door and you will become a zillionairess. If.

         13 likes

  10. StewGreen says:

    81,611 tests in 24 hours
    Yes what an utter utter failure this Tory government is
    Boris has murdered all these 26,000 victims himself
    He and the press briefing team should lie on the floor
    so the #GotchaGang can spit on him

    If we had a Labour government
    80 million tests would have been done in the last 24 hours.

       20 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      R is between 0.6 & 0.9
      1 is 1 in 1 out, less than one is a decline

      Hospital admission graph is clearly going down
      So in London the number of patients is less than half the peak
      whereas the rest of country is flat

      The other graph shows that this has been leading to falling deaths.
      (The graph is not one peak, but wave topped like Germany’s is )

         7 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Laura & Peston’s new attack is
      “you Tories are failing. cos this lock down is costing too much money
      ..isn’t it ?”

         15 likes

    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      “If we had a Labour government
      80 million tests would have been done in the last 24 hours.”

      Then Olly Robbins would have left the results in a gay bar or taxi.

         15 likes

  11. StewGreen says:

    Straight from the government

       8 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      As far as the MSM is concerned, covering your R is required Downing Street policy, when ‘Part-time’ and Pesto are running the Gotcha Bizz.

         4 likes

      • Eddy Booth says:

        So what’s the world’s R ?
        Being as our borders are wide open still..
        Or is it rude to ask.

           7 likes

  12. Guest Who says:

    Uh-oh. Incoming.

    Would the last remaining Newsnight viewer please check your privilege.

       16 likes

  13. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I think the virus came from one of the laboratories in Wuhan.
    I don’t believe it came from eating bats.

    Imagine if there were several world epidemics/pandemics (as we’ve had from Wuhan) but that they had originated in Porton Down where our bio labs are.
    Then, our politicians told you was because the locals were eating hedgehogs and the virus(‘s) all came because of that.
    Would you believe them.

    The Wuhan virus labs must have Mickey Mouse security and the virus(‘s) got out because of their lackadaisical procedures.
    Surely it wasn’t unleashed on purpose!

    I don’t know how true it is but I’m seeing conspiracy posts saying the people working in the virus labs of Wuhan have all now disappeared.
    I’ve seen many posts giving reasons why this is a man constructed virus.
    There have been several fiction books predicting virus escapes from the Wuhan virus labs.

    For me it’s a case of Occams Razor.
    It appears so obvious.

       8 likes

    • Eddy Booth says:

      I’ll stick to Eddy’s Bic one blade guess, if you don’t mind:
      What’s the most likely scenario
      A: The Chinese are utter geniuses that can create viruses in a laboratory, dispite them not having invented anything original since the umbrella 3,000 years ago.
      OR
      B. They’re as thick as pig muck, and think it’s clever to eat every animal on earth, and having worked their way through the menu, eventually hit upon the brilliant idea of mangy bat broth…
      Now ask yourself which would the Chinese prefer you believe..

         1 likes

  14. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I wonder if one of the questioners on Hancock’s half hour (Boris’ half hour doesn’t work) will ask for an apology because only 99,999 tests (or however many) were carried out instead of the 100,000

       11 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      EG
      I think if the number of tests is one under 100000 the MSM will be calling for a General election and the sacrifice of Bojo s new baby .

      They really are in the immoral depths .,

         10 likes

  15. Guest Who says:

    https://order-order.com/2020/04/30/bbc-finally-admits-panorama-spoke-communist-union-organiser/

    The sidebar is full of MSM articles asking how Panorama came to be ‘infiltrated’ in this way by the left.

    LOL.

    Infiltrated? Just Panorama?

    Any these twerps ever seen a Paul Mason tweet, even before he lef… pursed his own interests.

    He often arrived at protests before the protestors.

       19 likes

  16. Doobster78 says:

    BBC 6pm headlines.

    Obviously the BBC won’t be happy as it looks like Hancock will be very close indeed to his testing target. The BBC thought he would be way away from it.

    So, what does our George ask us at 6pm ?????

    “is it the number of tests that are important or who we are testing”

    I kid you not. So now, after all the hissy fits from the BBC libmob about the 100k target, the numbers weren’t that important after all .

    Scumbags !!!!!

       31 likes

    • Northern Dreamer says:

      bBBC….

      We want a lockdown, and we want it now…
      Shut down the schools, teaching unions cry…
      ventilators vital, how many have we got, minister? Are you including substandard private sector machines in that figure, minister?
      ventilators not a problem, so why all the panic? we don’t ask…
      PPE almost/maybe/possibly running short, say some unbiased people…
      4 flights full of PPE arrived today, we won’t be telling anyone, but what about the carbon footprint?…
      Nightingale hospitals are empty, we ask ‘are they a waste of money, how many extra journalists could we have had for that money?’….
      UK covid19 deaths forecast to be highest in the universe, says Surkeer, who is widely regarded as an expert inside the BBC…
      The Government are fixated with testing, why is this?
      Will the minister apologise for the glorious weather we have had, which has made 3 weeks of lockdown insufferable, especially in London?…

      and in 6 months time…

      When will the schools re-open, minister?… It is absolutely vital they open on Friday so St. Greta can organise a pupils strike…
      Why are British children achieving lower academic standards than European Union countries, minister?…
      Why did the government over-react to the pandemic, and crash the economy? We ask Rishi why hasn’t he apologised?…
      Yesterday 102,467 people were tested, why is the government wasting 2,467 testing kits?…

         21 likes

  17. Fedup2 says:

    Doob
    100k tests ? Waste of time – wrong sort of test – doesn’t mean anything – everyone needs testing every day – too far to travel – too long to wait – every other country does it better – too expensive – wrong people being tested – not green enough – why can’t kits be recycled – what about pets ?

       20 likes

  18. Guest Who says:

    https://tradingaswdr.blogspot.com/2020/04/gap-analysis.html?

    What was it about guaranteed unique income no matter what that first attracted everyone to join the BBC?

    Millions elsewhere juggling budgets to cope.

    20,000 ‘essential’ ‘workers’ tweeting views at home… not so much.

    Hope ex-Paul Mason colleague JO’bsworth enjoys his HIGNFY fee. And both see their pensions propped up by the TVL.

       9 likes

  19. scribblingscribe says:

    For those daft enough to watch BBC’s Question Time this evening you should know that they have on 3 socialists, one Tory and George Osborne. Osborne believes that if he undermines the conservatives on everything they say and do then one day he will be conservative PM.

    Sorry? The scientist the BBC have on the panel? Oh yeh. That’s Paul Nurse, labour party member for 40 years and at one time close to the International Socialist Tendency.

    So good luck Grant Shapps, tonight! It won’t be easy.

       27 likes

  20. Fedup2 says:

    Scrib – unfortunately I’m going to miss it because it clashes with the clapping after party we all have on Westminster Bridge – hugs all round – and we all feel as we’ve really done our bit . Then I go write a column in the Guardian …..

       17 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Time for some to be in the spotlight as they lose their religion and find a new religion.

      ‘Music To Clap By’.

         2 likes

  21. Guest Who says:

    Wonder if Jon, Tone, Katty and Nick of BBC N. America will be covering this (and the deficit) as usually dancin’ Justin is their boy.

       12 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      Why has Fidel Trudeau been hiding?

      Two thoughts:
      1. Has he run out of costumes to dress up in?
      2. Does he use Adrenochrome?

         5 likes

  22. Guest Who says:

    Hey Nick, odds of it being ‘waged’ in a certain square in Beijing? Not sure they quite got the stains out yet.

       3 likes

  23. Guest Who says:

    Nice MacBook. Made of hemp?

       18 likes

  24. taffman says:

    “Brexit: Electoral Commission and Arron Banks reach settlement”
    \\But the NCA found “no evidence” of criminal offences.//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52478574
    Hooray! They finally published it a day after it was mentioned on this site . What took them so long , what motivated them to do it ?
    Bias , what bias ?

       24 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Taffman
      The manner in which this has been ‘ reported ‘ compared to the treatment Mr Banks got at the time illustrates the corruption of the BBC

      Will Marr issue an apology ? Do a piece on how he was wrong to smear Arron Banks on his dirty show ?
      You can guess .

      I just hope Mr Banks can take on the corrupt Electoral Commission – a Wholely owned subsidiary of the Remainers.

         20 likes

      • taffman says:

        Fedup2
        It would appear that Al Beeb is selective on what it reports and how it is reported.
        It only ‘reports’ according to its agenda.
        Who directs the ‘agenda’, who is in charge of Al Beeb ?
        Will Mr Dominic Mckenzie Cummings advise Boris ?

           12 likes

  25. Guest Who says:

    Remember when Fred put him out at night?

       7 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      Remember when those apprentices, wet behind the ears weren’t allowed to make anything on their own until they’d completed their apprenticeship?

      Nowadays every naif on the MSM block thinks he/she knows it all.

      Hey, teacher! Leave them kids alone! Eh?

         19 likes

  26. pugnazious says:

    Must have grated having to report this….

    ‘Hezbollah: Germany bans and raids Islamist group’

    ‘Germany has banned all activity by the Islamist Hezbollah movement and police have carried out raids on mosques and centres linked to the group.

    Until now the political wing of the Shia Lebanese group, backed by Iran, was able to operate on German soil while its military arm was banned.
    The EU has Hezbollah’s military wing on its list of terror organisations but not its political wing. Earlier this year the US ambassador to Berlin, Richard Grenell, accused the EU of maintaining an “artificial distinction” between the two parts.

    The UK dropped the distinction in 2019, saying it could no longer distinguish between the two. The Netherlands, Japan, the US and Canada are among other countries that ban both wings.

    German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer made the decision after assessing that the Shia group was behind “a multitude of atttacks resulting in hundreds of deaths and injuries worldwide”. Parliament in Berlin had already urged the government to act.’

    Shame we didn’t do the same with Sinn Fein, instead we allowed them to be voted into Parliament and the BBC did the voice-overs for them.

    No doubt the BBC will be doing the same for Hezbollah in Germany.

       19 likes

  27. pugnazious says:

    Do White Lives not matter? Total lack of outrage that it has been suggested that Bames don’t do frontline service in the NHS in case they catch the virus…the BBC just accepts it as, well, acceptable and reasonable.

    Imagine if white staff were deliberately held back in order to protect them…the BBC would be in full outraged flow.

    Fairly obvious why more bame staff caught the virus because the main outbreaks are in cities and areas with a high proportion of bames in the population and on the staff of hospitals. Not race just demographics and geographics.

       27 likes

  28. vlad says:

    Auntie’s attitude to the Government concerning its handling of the Chinese virus is like that of a nightmare backseat-driving shrewish nag of a wife. She herself has no idea how to drive, cannot read a map or programme a satnav, has no sense of direction, knows nothing about mechanics, makes no positive suggestions but never stops criticisng his every move, always after the event.

    “You should have gone left, right, straight, back; why didn’t you take the M25, the North Circular, the gyratory system, the shortcut, the scenic route, the flyover, the underpass, the overpass, the bypass; you’re driving too fast, too slow; do you even know where we are, are we nearly there yet, why not; why did you buy this car, if you had a better job we could have bought a better car, why did I ever marry you?” etc…

    Time for a divorce.

       40 likes

  29. StewGreen says:

    #IslamicRepublicOfBBC
    is Trending on Twitter now
    54.4K Tweets
    Organised by Iranian activists.

       18 likes

  30. Fedup2 says:

    Anecdotal – I went out today – north east London – a lot more traffic – a lot more people – the north circular looked ….. busy mid afternoon …..
    I wonder if those graphs are telling the truth ?

       16 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      I have a theory that we Englishmen and women control authority in a subtle way. We don’t riot or commit acts of violence, in the main ( unless the rats go over some undefined line), we just ignore them.

      I think that’s what’s coming to the fore now; we’re beginning to behave like our forefathers. The cops say don’t and we shrug off shoulders and go one as if they aren’t there.

      Their comeuppance will be when they ignore us.

         18 likes

  31. taffman says:

    Another multi choice GEC exam question for Al Beeb employees ………………..

    Law-breaking illegal, Bogus asylum seekers cross the English Channel because:
    Select one answer only.
    a) They want to serve in HM Forces to defend Great Britain.
    b) The have always aspired to British Values, ways and laws.
    c) They want free accommodation, health, education and income.
    d) They are fleeing a cruel and oppressive European Union.

       31 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      Maybe they want all these things and are proud to be here?

      That’s sarcasm by the way.

      I hope Mrs Patel is true to her word and stops the illegals from being brought here by the Border ferry service. But more that she deports all the illegals already here.

      Or will my cynicism prove correct once again and nothing will actually be done?

         20 likes

      • taffman says:

        john in cheshire
        Forget The Border Farce that have been bobbing about the channel aboard their chocolate teapot using blustery words like “Intercepted” and “PPE”. Our government has thousands of Royal Marines and Sailors at their disposal that could have done the job ages ago. Unfortunately successive Home Sectaries have been to timid to act other than issue similar blustery words such as “Serious incidents” until now. Let’s witness our new Home Secretary protect the integrity of our borders ? How many has she sent back? Didn’t Boris warn that they would be returned ?

           7 likes

        • john in cheshire says:

          You’re so right and from the ex-navy types I’ve known, as well as the ex-army ones, they’d be only too ready, willing, happy and able to execute the role.

          If we’d let our defence forces do their job the illegals would not only not be trying to come here, those already here would be fleeing for their lives. Common Purpose senior officers notwithstanding.

          Defence being the operative word; that’s what they’re paid to do, that’s what they want to do, that’s what they should be allowed to do.

             7 likes

          • taffman says:

            john in cheshire
            Of course , our government could be ‘turning a blind eye’, what else could be the reason?
            The more they let in, the more they will come, building up problems for the future when we will hear the often repeated platitude “lessons to be learned”. The Royal Navy and Royal Marines are watching and waiting …………..

               8 likes

  32. pugnazious says:

    Funny how the BBC sees the world, a world where there are always facts, alternate facts and BBC facts.

    The Telegraph reported…

    ‘Priti Patel cleared of claims that she bullied staff ‘

    Even the Guardian reported…

    ‘Priti Patel expected to be cleared of bullying by Cabinet Office inquiry’

    The BBC, much, much later, eventually reported…

    ‘Priti Patel probe findings should be made public ‘as soon as possible’ – Labour’

    The BBC makes no mention that she had been cleared saying instead…

    ‘The findings of an inquiry into Home Secretary Priti Patel’s conduct must be made public “as soon as possible”, the Labour Party has said.

    PM Boris Johnson asked the Cabinet Office to establish the facts following claims Ms Patel had bullied staff at three different government departments.

    Ms Patel, who was interviewed as part of the process, has denied the claims.

    It is understood the report has been completed and the outcome is likely to be known in the coming days.’

    On the radio they used a weasily form of words telling us …

    There was not enough evidence to make her resign…’

    In other words the BBC is keeping it live that she is guilty…there’s just no evidence…lol….a bit inconvenient.

    Moving on to other BBC ‘facts’ the BBC seems to have adopted an editorial that is somewhat at odds with the three years of Brexit that it spent telling us that we must do whatever the boss of whichever Big Business was the latest to moan about Brexit told us to do…never mind the biggest democratic exercise in maybe Britain’s history….you may have voted for Brexit but do what the boss of Ryan air or Airbus or Nissan or those spivs from the City tell you to.

    The new editorial is that Big Business is the enemy…it wants the lockdown lifted and the BBC doesn’t. Hence we had BBC presenters all mouthing the same mantra…

    ‘Who should Boris Johnson listen to…Big Business and Tory donors or the scientists, the epidemiologists, the doctors?’

    Clearly an orchestrated and deliberate attack with Big Business now out of favour…back to the pre-Brexit world when the BBC wanted capitalism destroyed. Science clearly the favoured voice.

    Oh, hang on…again, that depends…Boris keeps on saying, rightly, he is being guided by the science and the Lefties hate it…they want to attack everything he does so that means attacking ‘The Science’ and ‘The Experts’…those favoured sons of the ani-Brexit lobby…but obviously that’s problematic.

    So how does the BBC square that circle…respecting ‘The Science’ whilst trying to trash Boris? Answer…It tells us there is ‘no science’ here. Really…there’s no science.

    One minute they make totally false claims about Cummings interfering with the independence of ‘The Science’, next they decide, erm, there’s no science.

    This was a new line that seemed to start yesterday…I heard Emma Barnett interviewing a scientist, lol, and she told him…

    ‘When you say you are following the science…there isn’t any science to follow.’

    So Sage and Nervtag and all those massed ranks of scientists advising the government don’t exist?

    Apparently not just Barnett but many on the BBC peddling the same line….the BBC dragged in various people, all with their own agendas to push, to reinforce the message…Blunkett, David King and in the Guardian we had the same…

    ‘Professor Devi Sridhar, chair of global public health at the University of Edinburgh, told the Guardian: ‘As a scientist, I hope I never again hear the phrase “based on the best science and evidence” spoken by a politician. This phrase has become basically meaningless and used to explain anything and everything.’

    And back on the BBC…

    ‘Professor Brian Cox told Andrew Marr this week: ‘There’s no such thing as The Science, which is a key lesson. If you hear a politician say “we’re following The Science”, then what that means is they don’t really understand what science is. There isn’t such a thing as The Science. Science is a mindset.’’

    Now that’s a pretty big u-turn….back in 2014 the climate warrior Cox was certain that climate scientists may not be 100% correct but they were correct and their’s was the only science that counted…you absolutely cannot criticise their science…’you can’t know better’….

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/sep/03/brian-cox-scientists-climate-change

    ‘He said scientists could say with total confidence that climate science was uncontroversial and the current predictions for warming were the best advice available.

    “The scientific view at the time is the best, there’s nothing you can do that’s better than that. So there’s an absolutism. It’s absolutely the best advice,” he said…..you’re not allowed to do is to claim there’s a better estimate of the way that the climate will change, other than the one that comes out of the computer models. It’s nonsensical to say ‘we know better’, you can’t know better.”’

    Not ony that but it was only politically motivated people who tried to dismiss and undermine that science…

    ‘Cox told the Guardian that climate sceptics had exploited the misconception that there was doubt about climate change in order to push a political agenda. “It can be a way in for people who have an agenda that’s not scientific.’

    He and the BBC should take his own advice….

    ‘“Don’t undermine the science just because you don’t like the economics. That’s a dangerous slope, because the problem of course is you’re not undermining just that, you’re undermining the basis of rational decision-making in society.”

    If you want the lockdown BBC be honest why….you want it because it is, you hope, destroying capitalism, consumerism and the evils of CO2. You love the lockdown regardless of what it does to peoples’ lives and livings….they are the ‘necessary murders’ to ‘save the planet’.

       24 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      The racist far-left bbc should release the Balen report on racist far-left bbc Jew hatred and their involvement in the 28gate collusion to spread climate stories in all of their broadcast material. They should investigate the Tommy Robinson Panodrama effort to destroy him with false allegations, smears and HopenotHate bigotry.

         22 likes

    • Eddy Booth says:

      My science says few cloud seeding contrails criss crossing the sky, made it the sunniest April since 1920!
      Gonna be a steaming hot summer if you don’t help get then climate cooling airplanes back in the sky BBC.

         13 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      Pug
      Excellent post – please tell me somebody has ‘twittered this reminder to ‘Prof Coc*’ but he is typical of the virtue signalling left – says one thing today to suit hi sargument and the opposite tomorrow to suit his argument…Lies, damned lies, and BBC/Lefty statistics….

         5 likes

  33. taffman says:

    I have posted this before , There is a war going on , a war between Al Beeb and the government. At present Al Beeb is winning the war. Not for long, for I detect that the public are beginning to see “The Emperor’s New Clothes”.

       20 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      I think we are winning the war taffman .

         17 likes

      • taffman says:

        We are winning the War with the help of this and other freethinking sites.

           20 likes

        • theleftwilleatitself says:

          I don’t think al beeb are winning the war taffman, no chance!
          The tide has turned massively in the last 4 months!????
          As someone on here commented recently, al beeb are behaving like a cornered rat ???? at the moment

             26 likes

          • taffman says:

            theleftwilleatitself
            Yes, I posted something similar to “behaving like a cornered rat ” some time ago . Why hasn’t the government done something about it ? If everyone stopped paying the Telly Tax, the tax that robs from the poor to pay the rich, the war would be over.

               20 likes

  34. Fedup2 says:

    Sweden , apparently, is a great country . The kind of country the BBC likes – in fact – any country is good apart from this one .

    However – it seems that the idea Sweden had of not having a ‘ lock down ‘ sadly – and I mean sadly – has not led to a good outcome – with 2500 dead from covid related causes.

    I’m sure friends here – better on the detail than me can do the numbers but I don’t think it has the makings of a happy story .

    And – perhaps – May vindicate the lockdown strategy …..

       15 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Sweden is 10.5m people so UK is 6.5 times bigger
      meaning UK sized Sweden would have 16,250 deaths
      but we have 26K
      So Sweden is doing better
      but when you go into AllCauses death stats for the last month
      Sweden clearly doesn’t have any deaths caused by delayed operations etc.
      Which actually all it’s neighbours do
      media just point out that for Covid deaths Sweden does worse than its neighbours.

         5 likes

  35. StewGreen says:

    Is this weeks HIGNFY all lefties as usual ?

       4 likes

  36. StewGreen says:

    BBC “US intelligence dismisses ** idea coronavirus was man-made but does not rule out China lab accident”

    ** They put in the word “Conspiracy idea”

    Official source

       3 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      US ‘Intelligence’ which has a record of screwing up which is so comprehensive it’s now difficult to trust their point of view on any subject !

      These were the goons who supported the Shah of Iran – leading to the Ayatollah, Batista leading to Castro, then the multiple asinine assasination attempts on him which verged on comedy in their uttery naivety.
      They started the feminist movement and then lost control of it.m
      Were incapable of giving a kill command when a sniper had Bin Laden in their sights.

      I could go on, but the CIA is a useless crazed organisation staffed by the mentally unsound.

         1 likes

  37. Guest Who says:

    Toenails struggling to win converts.

       24 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Nick quotes Ben Page of Ipsos
      that man who is in touch with the people ..NOT

         4 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Ah “Trust” !
      from Ben Page the Ipsos “bogus survey” man
      ..who blocked me for commenting
      when @etzpcm called his bogus survey out

         2 likes

  38. pugnazious says:

    An astonishing 1.2 million people suddenly dumped on the dole over the course of a couple of weeks, their lives destroyed and it was second page news for the BBC, and not even the top story on that page.

    However this gets on the frontpage….poor old Nadiya’s struggle to get out of bed….

    ‘TV personality Nadiya Hussain has said her anxiety means there have been times during the coronavirus lockdown when she has “struggled to get out of bed”.

    The winner of 2015’s Great British Bake Off said there had been “days where I don’t even want to get dressed”.’

    The BBC keeps up the appearance of caring about all those people now unemployed or struggling with furlough or the small businesses on the brink of bankruptcy struggling with dire cash flow, or those suffering from mental health issues or those who can’t get NHS treatment…but what you never, ever hear is criticism of the cause of all those problems…the lockdown. You will never, ever hear a BBC presenter saying ‘Maybe the lockdown was a bad idea’…the BBC loves the lockdown #duetoclimateandbrexit related reasons…it cares not one jot that people’s lives and businesses and futures are being destroyed…it pays lipservice with endless coverage but will never, ever say what the real problem is…instead it blames the government for not providing enough money or support….things will be fine if only the treasury dishes out more handouts for however long the lockdown lasts…never mind asking who pays for all that and how?

    The BBC is failing spectacularly to do its job…the one it tells us is its raison d’etre, its essential, core role…holding power to account. How many times have you heard Lord Hall boast that the BBC is the finest news broadcaster in the business and only the BBC can hold power to account and this is why we must cherish, treasure and keep the BBC?

    Not so much.

       35 likes

    • Lefty Wright says:

      Pug
      Lord HallHall has a lot to answer for. May justice be done.

         12 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      @Pug a tweet

      Is it that the Preacherr BBC is trying to give a sermon on mental illness during lockdown
      and is using Nadiya as an in to the story ?

         7 likes

      • JamesArthur says:

        Don’t we all feel sorry for her….she is special cos the BBC say so….get up woman get dressed and volunteer to do something useful instead of whinging….if your anxiety was that bad you would not be on TV so much…

           3 likes

  39. Doobster78 says:

       30 likes

    • JimS says:

      Just read The Guardian article here on the subject.

      At last all those diversity and equality officers will have something to do!

      I can’t help but feel that if NHS Scotland or NHS Wales were to carry out similar surveys they would find that most staff affected by the virus were born in Scotland/Wales = “Shock horror, most virus casualties in Scotland are Scots, Boris to Blame”.

         14 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Em it’s not scientific to remove people from jobs cos of their skin colour
      It’s em …. what do you call it ? … racist

         14 likes

  40. Thoughtful says:

    Interesting that the Cowardly useless incompetent Tories have introduced 5 tests for lifting lockdown – tests which will almost certainly never be met.

    Reminds me of the 5 economic test Gordon Brown had for monetary union, which as most remember ended in disaster, and we never joined the Euro (or ERM and EMU).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_economic_tests

    Seems the civil service likes its 5 year plan errr tests so much it repeats them and hopes no one will notice.

       10 likes

    • The WestWyvern says:

      I thought the same when viewing the 5pm update thoughtfull.

      Those five tests will unlikely ever be achieved. I’d guess 3 at best. The country needs to realise we will be living with this virus for ever more.

         8 likes

  41. Celtic_Mist says:

    Remember that PM in New Zeland wearing the hijab that the BBC loves

       18 likes

    • vlad says:

      There are many disgusting things in this world, but few more so than Western so-called ‘progressives’ donning the hijab while their sistas in muslim countries are beaten, jailed and tortured for refusing to.

      Feminazis, hang your heads in shame.

         18 likes

  42. The WestWyvern says:

    Boris. We are guided by the science.

    Science. No real evidence wearing masks provides benefit.

    Boris. I think masks would be useful.

    Come on people. We are being conned in plain sight.

       13 likes

  43. The WestWyvern says:

    Two clappers tonight in my neck of the woods.
    Just a lonely old gossip who just wanted to open her door and shout at the virtue signaller opposite about her aches and pains and the signaller.

    Looks like the new normal (a shite phrase) loved by BBC and celebs is rapidly returning to the normal normal despite Boris and the BBC propaganda.

       22 likes

  44. StewGreen says:

    Always remembering Calais victims
    ..but rarely Rotherham’s

    11:30am Thu Radio repeated the prog about one of their pet illegal immigrants
    It was only on 3 weeks ago
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000h1lt

       14 likes

  45. BRISSLES says:

    I don’t consider myself ‘conned’ at all. I just accept that if they are right 75% of the time, great. No one is perfect, but I certainly don’t hang on every word as though its gospel, clearly the media and others do.

    I use my own judgement and common sense as to what to do. There’s a disease, therefore we shouldn’t mix. And that’s not rocket science. I shall continue to wear a mask and gloves, and if its for 6 months or a year or until there is a vaccine, then so be it. I shan’t blame anyone because they said this or that a few weeks or months ago. Whingeing was never my forte. Just be glad we’re alive.

       16 likes

  46. vlad says:

    Couldn’t find this on the beeb for some reason…

    “Diane Abbott’s Son Sectioned After 6 Month Meth Induced Rampage”

       12 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Yes but it was in the Mail on April 23rd
      … BBC always said “Oh we don’t report on the crimes of people , just cos their parents are famous”

         8 likes

  47. taffman says:

    Rumours of good news coming from S Korea about immunity from the recent virus ie you cannot catch it twice? . Not substantiated by Al Beeb yet though.

       6 likes

  48. Loobyloo says:

    Trump (somewhat) correct about light and disinfectant

    Article in the Daily Telegraph. Care to comment Al Beeb and just about every other moaning anti trumper in the world!

       13 likes

  49. Guest Who says:

    Other commenters are equally unimpressed. I share this, knowing it will sadly not survive long, as it sums up the case in question better than most in terms the bbc need to grasp.

       8 likes

  50. Guest Who says:

    Nag trawling for gotchas from activists, which will be filtered using all the engineering expertise to hand in a bbc studio full of media grads. With added x.

       9 likes