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President Trump has made several claims about coronavirus testing in the US – is he right?
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So Jon’s team have assembled a crack team of experts to answer: Hillary, Joe, Nick Acosta, Brian Stelter, Whoopie, Joy Behar…
“If you have a problem, if no one else will help, and if you can fund them, maybe you can hire… the A-hole Team”
BBC Moaning Emole
Confidence over testing target as PM says UK outbreak ‘past peak’
Story detail
It has been four weeks since Health Secretary Matt Hancock pledged to ramp up daily coronavirus testing from about 10,500 to 100,000 by the end of April. By Tuesday, just over half that number were being carried out and yesterday a cabinet colleague said the target would probably be missed. Now, however, Transport Secretary Grant Shapps believes the government is “quite likely to get very close to or meet” the 100,000 figure. “The point is to have available tests,” he told the BBC’s Question Time.
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Now, however, the BBC is pretending it was not willing a fail and confident of gotcha glory.
BBC News
The White House wants to send the next man and the first woman to the Moon in 2024.
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Should be fun. I wonder who will be shaving whose balls?
Great Britain is at war but there is light at the end of the tunnel and on reflection the treasonous Al Beeb has been undermining the government eg Panodrama. Also, it has not operated as an impartial broadcaster despite its claims . Witness it’s complete and utter Bias over the passed four years to Britain’s move to independence e.g It’s complete and ongoing Anti Brexit Bias. At this time there are many desperate people in this country that would benefit from the abolition of the television licence. How about it Prime Minister ?
Who does Al Beeb back on the pandemic crisis, President Trump or the Chinese Government?
Running the headline ‘filmed’ seems… very Dimbles.
Trying to decide if this guy is a sub editor…
Nothing will alter here and in those African countries where corruption is still so rife-I know Iv’e seen it first hand. Have no idea as to how this issue can ever be altered-if western governments stop sending aid, the people would suffer but so would those that supposedly govern those countries-which might be the best lesson to change matters-but sadly the African will never see it as we do-as they have done for thousands of years, just sit on the problem never help themselves, unless they have been exposed to some western culture which of course took us thousands of years to establish.
The Ahmed has been released.
Jamaica, population just under 3 million https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/jamaica-population/
422 cases of chinese virus, 8 deaths.
https://www.covidtracker.com
Where’s ‘our’ Kamal getting his facts from. Probably only his employer………….Dream on.
G
Interesting that the BBC continues its ‘coloureds’ as victims narrative with recital of numbers suggesting Africans are more susceptible to thr Chinese virus than whitee – and thus should be treated – racially differently –
A tricky road to go down when ‘ equality ‘ has been screamed since the Race Relation Act – is the BBC supporting the idea what biologies are different ? And some are inferior to others?
Who’d have thought ….
Shots fired.
Katya joining Lord Tone and Franny anywhere but this hemisphere?
This clip is doing the rounds and is quite a funny ‘slip up’ ?
Put the captions on, ‘cc’ at about 55 seconds.
All on our beloved British Brainwashing Corporation…
Yawn : someone made a slip of the tongue
My only exposure to Karl Marx and his ‘Critical Theory’ comes to me via our State Broadcaster aka “The Worlds Most Trusted Broadcaster” who pumps out its Marxist propaganda 24hrs a day. I limit the amount and level of Marxist propaganda I absorb by normally only listening to the bullet points delivered by the Marxist BBC at the daily 0800 and 1300 ‘News’ bulletins. Usually, the bullet points, by necessity, are too short, too pithy to allow any distortion/embroidery by our Worlds Most Trusted. That’s BBC ‘Step One’. I’ve noticed that, for a number of reasons (principally laziness), I allow myself to be washed on to the next of three steps into a more detailed ‘announcement’ of a particular topic. That Step 2, sets the listener up in preparation for the main Marxist onslaught. That is, Step 3 – the interviewee/expert who is patently selected as biased for similar reasons as the BBC. Usually a professor from some university or an ex White House employee/adviser, invariably, apparently, any communist anti Trump/anti West/ anti white sympathiser et al. will do. Today, I have to admit to being conveyed through Step 1, 2 and the beginnings of Step 3 until I was brought back to reality when my Marx detection apparatus flashed red. Red for bias and/or non objectivity. That point always triggers the ‘off’ button.
At 0810 this morning the listener was subjected to the dishonesty of some communist ‘Professor’ from Edinburgh University. No, I’m ahead of you: Not that ‘Mona’. ‘Our’ Nick asked her the direct question: ‘Where do you think the Government has failed in dealing with this (chinese virus)?’ She immediately, interruption free and without hesitation, set off on her condemnation by replying that early March, the Government failed to generally provide PPE. ‘Our’ Nick did not ask her whether it was a World problem for Governments in general at that time as China was holding back all the PPE they had just acquired from around the World simply to hold the World to ransom and/or if supplying, supplying incorrect and/or faulty PPE.
Red light flashing – ‘off’ button.
A day in the broadcasting life of out ‘Worlds Most Trusted’.
The NHS is still busily touting for work as the propaganda the BBC had spouted out on their behalf for weeks about not troubling the NHS bears fruit and people don’t call 999 anymore – and some die at home.
But don’t worry – idiots are still clapping . There’s film of snowflakes and plod clapping on Westminster Bridge again . No doubt plod will be issuing themselves fines for breaking their own law .
And today ? May Day – the comrades – Corbyn – Starmer et al will be clapping Marx and Lenin and their real hero Stalin with tears in their eyes . We can be sure plenty in the BBC will be waving the Red Flag too ….
BBC say Government “likely” to meet the 100,000 tests dammit….
So they wheel on a lady health professional to blab, “tests don’t really help that much what we really want is “contact tracing”….
So this is next weeks BBC coconut shy then!
Indeed Digg . Spotted this new BBC angle on the 6pm news yesterday and highlighted it.
She’s the expert
cos she represents the contractor firms that provide ambulances & mental health services etc.
What with China ‘bribing’ its way around the UN for prime positions of power seeking World domination by ensuring the appointment of its agents in high positions, we see Soros doing exactly the same but closer to home, with the European Court of Human Rights.
https://eclj.org/geopolitics/echr/emprise-de-soros-sur-la-cour-europeenne-des-droits-de-lhomme–la-cedh-persiste-et-signe-
A couple of threads ago, I posted a link to a article in the UK Constitutional Law Association in which the author made the case for repealing the 1998 Human Rights Act so the UK could,
‘Go its own way’ with Human Rights issues.
Now that’s more pressing if we want to avoid Globalisation controlled by individuals who are either communist or motivated by same.
I stand by my assertion that we are currently witnessing the demise of law and order and any ensuing likelihood of justice
This week Starmer is not (openly) collaborating with a foreign power (allegedly).
Sir Keir was speaking during a virtual meeting with residents in Bury as part of a new tour aimed a winning back the support of voters who abandoned the party at the last general election.
During the call, one former Labour voter told Sir Keir, who took over from Jeremy Corbyn last month, that he had been made to feel racist because of his support for Brexit, monarchy and the union jack.
But the Labour leader argued that patriotism and his own party’s beliefs were “two sides of the same coin”.
I hear that the US Security Services has warned those Universities and US laboratories researching vaccines to consider the commercial espionage currently underway by china seeking to steal others’ research into vaccines. Apparently, china has dramatically stepped up its attempts to steal intellectual property.
Indeed, two or three weeks ago when Cambridge Uni and Imperial announced that they were close to a vaccine, I made the point, here, that they should exclude any chinese employees and or dismiss any chinese researchers for that very same reason.
Andrew Bolt’s 10 min intro to the Michael Moore film.
via @SkyNewsAust
I can see no way around this problem other than, straight through the middle and we all know what this means.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15956/china-expansion-asia
It is only a matter of time.
TalkRadio : caller suggested young people don’t need shielding
so it’s safe for them to be in crowded places like London.
He suggested evacuating older people to quieter less busy places.
like the empty hotels & universities etc.
Channel 4 decides Steph’s daytime show is NOT essential work
It will be back after Corona dies down
… or maybe not
Stew – she was the high point of my day – taking daytime TV to new heights – we all have to make sacrifices to get the R down but I feel this is just too much .
I hope there’s one of those help lines for those affected by this brutal decision – which I’m sure will be viewed as a mistake . …
If you want a good laugh read the replies to the tweet ha
commenter
“It stretched the patience of the neighbours
… It stretched the patience of viewers more like, dreadful show.”
Another bubble-dweller finding out the hard way that the grass isn’t always greener on the other side ????
Mr Vine strikes again, 11.30 Radio 2 he previews his topics for today at noon – The government’s “promise” that they’ll deliver 100,000 tests by end of April, looks like they’ll be there or thereabouts, which is great news HOWEVER (his emphasis not mine) other than a politician keeping his promise it’s all too late and they should have been done in February.
I decline to comment further regarding this person.
are these guests the usual lefties ?
BBC running with the saintly mixed race couple “We go hungry so we can feed our children” whilst constantly pushing all week the Long Read article of the white male teacher “I was a teacher for 17 years, but couldn’t read or write”. That’s the only white male on the front page. The rest are BAME or women. I wonder where this labelling the indigenous white male as hopeless came from, is it an attribute of the Left? Very strange and Orwellian.
Labour found out at the last general election that ignoring at massive % of your followers was a terrible decision!
Let’s hope al beeb find that out the hard way when it blatantly denigrates at least 85% of the UK population every single bloody day ????????
Most of Meghan’s case against the Mail on Sunday has been thrown out
according to the High Court ruling
In months at full trial she stands a chance of winning
the breach of copyright claim for the letter she wrote.
https://news.sky.com/story/meghan-loses-first-high-court-fight-against-mail-on-sunday-11981727
Last night’s Newsnight featured public health physician Professor Gabriel Scully slamming the last decade of Tory rule, saying “The resilience has been stripped systematically out of the system… If you make the system as lean and emaciated as it is there will not be the public health staff there… you can’t magic them up out of nowhere
It does get noticed.
The Professor Gabriel Scully may have sucked too hard, too long, on the public finance teat.
The folk with memories (ie not the BBC, its Directors, its Producers, its Editors, its Presenters, its Journalists, its Engineers, its support staff, its tea ladies, its cleaners, its security personnel, its adiministrators) will recall shortages of both equipment, personnel and treatments in the NHS in the so-called ‘golden period’ of 1997-2006. How would the bad Professor Scully explain that?
Covid-19, Free Speech and the Media
I seem to be the only one round here still banging the drum for HCQ. Is that because it’s recommended by Donald Trump and “ordinary” folk are supposed to run a mile from anything he says?
Actually this goes beyond what’s happening in America, but strikes at the root of what the BBC and its like preach and practice.
“But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person from them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require from the watchman’s hand.” Ezekiel 33:6
Starts at 0:52
For many people the magic cure for Covid
… is not being a fatty in the first place
.. step back from the pies.
There’s evidence that using HCQ as part of an anti C-19 ‘cocktail’ is pretty effective, so it gets my vote until something better comes along
Nobody seems to have picked up on QT Fiona’s snidey little dig about ‘pairs of gloves’ during one of her frequent interruptions of Grant Shaps. The shame was that he didn’t respond, using a gifted opportunity to point out the simple truth that multipacks of PPE gloves – like any ambidextrous protective handwear – will be labelled as units, so 500 pairs will be itemised as 1000 units. Any stores manager would know this, and possibly one or two non-Labour affiliated NHS Procurement managers. BBC stars like Fiona can’t be arsed to find out.
Ah …. even managed to shoe-horn PPE into this aswell !!! Yawn
How about ventilators?
The Hill is Katty’s main source of scoops, so it will be interesting how the bbc handles the news of the kit they have been counting all back in.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/medical-advances/494274-nearly-half-of-all-patients-placed-on?
News at One lets us know how more civilised and medically aware nations, like South Africa for instance, are about to start relaxing the lock-down thanks to the speed and effectiveness of its rapid implementation. Much faster and evidently far more effective than the UK response, naturally.
The world-renowned and well-documented restraint and self-control of the Bantu and Zulu provides all the confidence needed for the brave moves to go well. I’m sure we all wish them luck.
Meanwhile conditions in Central Africa remain uncertain and largely unreported.
Surprised he is not on Newsnight tonight.
Or, as they only read the Graun…
hmm That claim was first tweeted a few mins earlier on the 30th from an anti-Tory account, which gave no evidence.
..Although lots of people asked
On 29th People had tweeted this similar story
which has no BBC connection
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/hospital-worker-suspended-after-asking-for-ppe-as-nation-honours-fallen-key-workers/28/04/
Is it not a Graun story?
My bullshit detector just went off.
75,000 volunteers produced face shields and they’re put straight into use by the NHS, just like that? No tests necessary? How was there time to test product from, presumably, thousands of different sources?
Sorry, I don’t buy it.
It doesn’t say 75,000 volunteers
you have time to correct ?
Neither it does, but the point stands.
Best line in the report was ‘….comes after BBC investigation found that the government failed to buy protective kit to cope with a pandemic’.
They really are becoming quite paranoid.
That BBC story quotes the Panorama prog
as if it was a great source of facts.
Lets look : is 75K is a big number ?
“United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust which is just 3 hospitals require EVERY DAY 39,500 surgical masks”
– April 8th story BAE Systems have pledged to donate more than 120,000 face shields to protect NHS staff from coronavirus. @BAESystemsplc
– RoyalMintUK “We are supplying 1.9 million”
– “Apple has shipped 7.5 million face shields worldwide.”
– “@Ford “This morning, we produced our 10 millionth shield ”
Sky have just had on an American commentating about the virus.
He absolutely hated Trump.
He said that Trump said “you should inhale bleach”
Of course, he wasn’t challenged on this.
Everything Trump does or says was wrong according to this person.
When asked about the Chinese and their part in this he couldn’t have been more pro China, the same as he was for the WHO.
I expect he will be headhunted to appear on panorama and QT.
Such a completely one sided interview.
So, no surprise and just as we would expect.
Whoever is appearing on Hancock’s half hour today I hope they get to say to the 3 stooges something like “are you not going to ask about the testing numbers which you have been massively obsessing about” or “sorry to disappoint you but we have passed the 100,000 tests”
I wish they would not be so timid and give these ‘journalists’ a right big dose of truth and common sense when answering their daft questions.
If they are going to remove the bame from the front line in the hospitals because this virus is more dangerous for them then I hope they will also remove all the fatty bum bums, even the white ones, which will mean about half the nurses.
Also, any doctor or nurse over 45 years old, even the white ones.
Write about avoiding the BBC? It’s about time an injunction
was taken out against the BBC to stop it producing such
traitorous garbage as the Panorama from earlier this week.
Foscari
I didn’t see the Panorama programme – but I’m sure they’ll be following up the story of a NHS procurement manager ( a saint ) setting up a private company Selling – er / PPE .
Obviously innocent until executed / guilty but it makes me seem both pleased that the rants I fire off here about widespread NHS fraud / theft has some evidence out on it.
I fear it is the tip of the iceberg and that theft is part of NHS culture . Hence Reasons for shortages .
Is there any link perhaps between the preponderance of NHS procurement managers and similar percentages of council officials, who seem to fall foul of the laws regarding probity and fraud in high office?
Ami right in thinking that any fine levied against the electoral commission for its biased conduct of going after any right leaning party (if Aaron Banks takes them to court for example) will be paid by the UK taxpayer or will the lefties who make up the EC have to pay it from their ‘own’ money.
It’s rhetorical of course.
We all know the answer.
It’s not just the BBC..
My postman, busier than ever, has just delivered the latest issue of my professional institutions magazine. A letter writer asserts that job candidates should posess fundamental knowledge and not just the ability to patch Arduino* modules together.
To stress the point our ‘woke’ editorial staff have headed the letter with a picture, taking up a third of the space, showing a female in front of a green board with a few lines of trigonometry on it apparently teaching an all-female class.
In these age of quotas it might be an interesting exercise to see what pictures are actually published from the picture libraries and how the various ‘groups’ are represented.
[Note from bossette of Getty Images: “Save storage space, ditch all images of white men, there just isn’t a market for them”.]
*Arduino: A small computer module, other makes are available.
Even for the BBC this is impressive.
BBC News
30 mins ·
“The 100,000 target was, I think, a PR stunt that’s gone a bit wrong.”
Scientist and geneticist Sir Paul Nurse asks why the government set a target of performing 100,000 daily coronavirus tests in the first place.
He’s a Sir, you know. And Tony is a Lord. And the BBC are…
bbc.in/3bUGDCm
Mustapha’s advice: “Stick to Nursing, Sir Paul.”
Coronavirus: Is there any evidence for lab release theory?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-52318539
not exactly the most deeply researched article , just a cut and paste job, probably direct from bejing
Radio 4 this morning “60s Girl Singers”
background started with Gracie Fields who ” had a string of hits that unashamedly appealled to patriotism”
122k tests on deadline day, BBC newsroom will be re-writing the scripts as we speak
How peculiar.
The World Health Organisation tells us that Sweden may be the model for the ‘new normal’ in how to handle the coronavirus…far from being the badboy outlier it has performed well and could be the example to us all…
‘ Sweden’s approach – a combination of trust and strategic controls – could provide a key model for other countries.
Governments looking for long-term solutions for managing COVID-19 could start with their relationship with the general public, Michael J. Ryan, Chief Executive Director of the World Health Organization Health (WHO) Emergencies Programme said at a briefing Wednesday.
Ryan said the country has, however, adopted a range of measures to help tackle the virus. Sweden has ramped up its intensive care capacity, has a strong public health policy around physical distancing and key protections in place for those in long-term care facilities, all of which have helped its health system cope with COVID-19 cases.
The major difference in Sweden’s approach is trust in the population. Ryan said: “What it has done differently is it is very much relying on its relationship with its citizenry. It really has trusted its own communities to implement that physical distance.”
That trust, combined with strategic controls and clear communication, could provide a template for other countries that are loosening lockdown restrictions to safely adapt to a new normal. Ryan said: “If we are to reach a new normal, in many ways Sweden represents a future model.”‘
Oddly the BBC seems to have completely ignored this story….presumably still trying to deconflict it with the reams of sneering articles it has produced criticising Sweden’s approach….and of course as it fully supported the lockdown and actually lobbied for even more draconian measures to be imposed I’m guessing it’s not too keen to publicise anything that undermines that narrative.
The BBC has been fully on-board with the astoundingly draconian lockdown that stripped us of our freedoms and destroyed the economy, it fully supported the lockdown and even argued for further and harsher restrictions. The BBC cravenly acted as the government mouthpiece, pumping out lockdown propaganda, a mix of threats, scary and dire warnings along with feel-good schmaltz intended to distract us from the harsh realities of lockdown with happy stories of people coping cheerfully and doing amazing stuff.
The BBC reserved criticism of the government to process and competence…never actually criticising or casting doubt upon the need for, or wisdom of, such a drastic and savage lockdown.
However that may be changing as we approach a time when the lockdown may begin to be slackened off and blame can be apportioned for any damage to the economy, education, the NHS itself, mental health or the myriad of other problems that have arisen due to the lockdown.
We’ve already seen the highly political and targeted attack by Panorama on the government for its handling of PPE but the attacks may now be moving onto new territory as the BBC seeks to inform us of all that damage done by the lockdown and…why it was perhaps too harsh, too long and not targeted properly.
On Sunday night on R4 at 20:00 the BBC asks something it has never asked in all the weeks this has been going on…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000htrs
‘A Cure At What Cost?’
The need for the lockdown isn’t questioned…er…however…it is….
‘The science writer, Tom Chivers, doesn’t dispute the need for drastic action against Covid-19. He’s deeply concerned. But he’s also worried about his children’s future, the wide-ranging economic, social and political fallout from this shock, and the question of whether our strategies to deal with the pandemic might be doing more harm than good in the long run.
The decisions being made now by our politicians, our doctors, our scientists and business leaders will affect us all for years to come. Tom meets with leading experts and asks whether the cure is always worth the cost.’
Whatever the conclusions are in this programme you can bet it is just the start of the BBC telling us ‘The lockdown was vitally necessary…but….’ and the Tories getting blamed for everything from now on…a new austerity, higher debt, higher taxes, cuts to everything and our futures imperilled.
Never mind the BBC completely and utterly backed the lockdown regardless of the consequences…the BBC often not reporting or downplaying dire economic news.
The BBC did not inform and educate, it did not hold power to account, it did not question, challenge or dispute the need for such a lockdown…it instead became the State broadcaster recruited to spin a narrative that spread fear and obedience to the message as intended by government. It utterly failed the British people when they needed it most and now it reverts to its ‘old normal’, the Labour Party broadcaster whose sole aim is to see a Labour Prime Mnister, whether marxist, anti-semite, terrorist or chief thug, in No10.
Why is this a story? The ratio of blacks dying is hardly extraordinary….and Asians are disproportionately not dying….
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52453782
‘NHS data, obtained by the BBC, analysed 3,929 deaths by ethnicity and showed a disproportionate number of black people had died from Covid-19 in London hospitals.
Black people account for 13% of the city’s population but 16% of deaths.’
The BBC has been spinning this narrative of a tidal wave of ‘Black Death’ for a while now…but those stats, even in city with ahigh proportion of bames shows that narrative is total bull**it.