300 Responses to Weekend Thread 28 Nov 2020

  1. Dobyns says:


    Surely not!!


    • Rob in Cheshire says:


      I am afraid you are mistaken. Joe Biden just found 100,000 votes declaring him to be first.

      Sorry about that, but the people have spoken.


  2. taffman says:

    Yes indeed Dobyns!
    Congratulations from the Western parts of these super and mysterious islands.


    • Dobyns says:

      Taffman, cheers from the western recesses of Salop. ????


    • StewGreen says:

      Catchup links to last post on the previous thread
      page 5 started at 6pm Friday
      page 4

      Coming up for Xmas
      – Royal Institution Christmas lectures .. 3 alarmist scientists talking about Climate Change
      – The Reith lectures by Woke Banker : Mark Carney
      finishing up with a lecture on … Climate Change.


  3. Solomon Grundy says:

    In these dark times, I’d like to lighten the mood a little. No not BBC related, unless their commercial arm is monetised by showing it.

    Lidl have done a delightful pastiche on the Christmas grocery advert. It just pushes its wares with an occasional gentle dig at its competitors. This line standing out …

    “There’s usually a moment where we want you to feel sad… But we don’t have time, look sparkling wine!”

    … and grandad’s still white at least. Never mind, I like it anyway.



  4. Deborah says:

    Halifax, hoping you are getting better.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Time for an update, please, Halifax – if you have the strength and energy of course.

      To be positive, you will have some important lessons to pass on to us here if, heaven forbid, some of us catch Covid-19.


  5. Philip_2 says:

    I happened to be listening to Talk Radio* (this Friday morning) when Mike Graham was interviewing a former Firefighter and Union member on his experience on the ‘elite’ elements that exist in the Labour Party that undermine the ‘real’ hard working working class issues and those that ‘live in a dream-world’ totally – apart from the real issues facing most working class people. The interview, led directly to the BBC and its non-stop support for ‘Labour’ global politics.. Another nail in the of BBC party dogma of a global socialist dream of world influence.

    Drawing on his background as a firefighter and trade unionist from Dagenham, Paul Embery argues that this disconnect has been inevitable since the Left political establishment swallowed a poisonous brew of economic and social liberalism. They have come to despise traditional working-class values of patriotism, family and faith and instead embraced globalisation, rapid demographic change and a toxic, divisive brand of identity politics. Embery contends that the Left can only revive if it speaks once again to the priorities of working-class people by combining socialist economics with the cultural politics of belonging, place and community.

    Author: David Embury (had to do a search on this new book to find out).

    Heard on: Talk Radio.
    * https://play.acast.com/s/independentrepublicmikegraham/downgradedrestrictions-tiers2-3-christmastravelandtheperriorawards


  6. Philip_2 says:

    Another thing: The BBC want an apology!
    The BBC complained to the Daily Mail, which has issued an apology today (Friday 27th) which hinged on who was responsible for The Daily Mail revelations that Martin Bashir had falsified the documents relating to the the famous PANORAMA interview on the late Princess Diana.

    The BBC do not deny that is was falsified. But the BBC ‘full fact checkers’ have found out that the crime had not affected the Editor of that program. So they complained to IPSO (Independant Press Standards Association) on a Feature that the BBC was implicit in fraud and that it was paid for by the BBC itself.. You may wonder who that Panorama Editor was that ‘excused’ himself. Wait no more, the BBC wants an apology for finger pointing at Nick Robinson, (Teflon Nick, a BBC favourite employee). The BBC complained.

    The Mail today (page 2) reported it has received a complaint from the BBC:

    ‘…Radio 4 Today’s Nick Robinson was Deputy Editor of Panorama at the time of Princess Diana’s BBC interview in November 1995. The BBC would like to point out that Nick Robinson left the programme a month before the interview was recorded’.

    The BBC never denied it had falsified the Diana PANORAMA documents however. Just wanted some clarification that ‘Nick’ was err… ‘elsewhere at the time’. Let Bashire take the blame, (particularly as he is now gravelly ill, with Covid (although he seems able enough to go shopping as reported recently, not as ill as we are led to believe…), So not around to comment, obviously.

    No apology needed BBC. We understand your position with Nick, your * star* reporter needs no apology, – let Martin B take the hit. After all, BBC, you did the same with Jimmy Saville, (no longer employed at the BBC), they stated), I seem to remember. Denied it all happened. Move on. Lets change the subject, look; ‘a gay Penguin, hungry Polar Bears, melting Icebergs, Trump revolting supporters, Brexit racists, Islam-is-best, Boat People are all qualified Doctors, nasty Tories, BBC are the most trusted broadcaster in the county!’ etc.
    (According too: BBC fact checkers).

    BBC motto – never apologise for anything, deny everything, falsify everything.

    Under today’s Daily Mail ‘Clarifications & corrections’: section:
    The Daily Mail has had to apologise for involving Teflon ‘Nick’ who has since been promoted in the BBC. And of course there will NOT be a BBC investigation either, as nobody has done anything ‘wrong’, – as this sort of thing happens all the time at the BBC, presumably…and who is to say ‘what is truth ‘when you have the BBC as the most trusted broadcaster in the country to claim that Nick Robinson was ‘not actually involved’ is questionable and then dumping the blame on Bashir to carry the can..



    • StewGreen says:

      BTW Steve Hewitt was the episode’s producer
      and went on to be given lots of BBC roles
      and then died about 2 years ago.


  7. Dobyns says:

    Just an observation regarding the PM.

    Many of us were very hopeful and optimistic when he moved into Number 10, however I think he has fallen victim to the old saw, “There is no heavier burden than that of a great potential”.

    We wished and hoped for so much only to see so little delivered.


    • Kaiser says:

      xr tacitly approved of
      blm bowed down to
      Dingy invasion taxied and accommodated
      Green agenda started
      Country imprisoned
      Brexit deadlines delayed again and again
      Economy destroyed
      The great reset triggered

      Seems he has been pretty busy to me


  8. vlad says:


    • vlad says:

      How long can the BBC ignore all the above?


      • Guest Who says:

        Wait until they get Nish back.


      • Doublethinker says:

        The BBC and MSM response , when it eventually comes, will be firstly to claim that the evidence is flimsy at best and not worthy of further investigation. Biden won fair and square. Any witness for Trump will be attacked and attempts made to undermine their credibility. Some will undoubtedly be frightened into withdrawing their statements. Some will need witness protection.
        If the law suit progresses, the response will be that these law suits are undermining democracy ( as opposed to the truth which is that they are the only way democracy can be saved) and the attacks on the witnesses will increase.
        If it begins to look as though the election may be invalidated the MSM will begin to claim that the gangster Trump packed the Supreme Court as an insurance policy so he couldn’t lose no matter how well the honourable Biden did.
        If Trump does eventually win through the MSM will claim that he is an even more illegitimate president than he was in his first term.
        Whatever they say the truth is very likely to be the opposite.


        • NCBBC says:

          The answer to the MSM will come in the House elections in two years.

          If Republicans take the House, then actions can be taken against the MSM traitors, and Big Tech. They have lied and lied against probably the most honest president America has ever had. 100% lies non-stop. No nation can survive for long with a media that consistently lies.


          • Fedup2 says:

            Problem is – the voting systems have been corrupted . Unless currently elected republics check the voting systems in their states they’ll suffer the same ‘issues’ their President is suffering . They call it the Tower Hamlets method .

            If the red Tory government had any wisdom – which I think is Rare – they’d be using the majority to make the voting system here ‘more robust ‘ – I D evidence – personal voting as a minimum .


          • NCBBC says:

            If the voting system is not policed, there will one be one election, the last time.


      • G.W.F. says:

        Here is the BBC response to the Kraken

        Powell’s documents.
        Just a conspiracy theory

        ‘However, once the documents, almost 200 pages of them, were released, it became clear they consisted predominantly of conspiracy theories and unfounded allegations that have already been widely debunked.

        Some of these claims have already been rejected in court cases, while others – such as accusations that voting machines are part of a plot originating under former Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez – are not backed up with any credible evidence.
        Ms Powell did not respond to a BBC request for comment.



    • NCBBC says:

      There are all manner of Servers confiscated by US marshals on Servers Farms in Germany.

      Too cyber security experts such as Navid Keshavarz-Nia are now with Sydney Powell’s team.


      Its beginning to read like Tom Clancy novel.


  9. Guest Who says:

    Bet bBC American BS were RTing the heck out of this one.


    Especially blondes, like Katty and Marianna.


  10. Foscari says:

    Does anybody think that BIG BROTHER from the diversity
    department at the BBC will allow the BBC internet pages
    post a Christmas picture of a indigenous white family
    from the UK? Is it incredulous to think that this is
    possible that he, she or it will allow this?
    By me it’s fine to show a black family, an Asian family, ethnic
    families from all over the world. Mixed race families is fine
    as well. BUT why is it an anathema for the BBC to show
    say a typical 85% white family from the UK hoping to
    enjoy Christmas?


    • NCBBC says:

      BUT why is it an anathema for the BBC to showsay a typical 85% white family from the UK hoping to enjoy Christmas?

      The BBC operates on the working policy that any group that does well by its own merits, must be defamed, maligned, and brought down. The opposite, that any group that is known for its criminality and religious fanaticism, is actually good, and is “oppressed” by the group that is successful. Its a reversal of the moral order. Leftism is just that. Destroy everything.

      Doing so, allows multi-cultism to be the order of society.


  11. Guest Who says:

    The struggle is revealing.


    • StewGreen says:

      And being mega highly paid and professional
      you take the spare pair out of your bag.


    • JimS says:

      “So let’s get this straight Mr Lewis. You suffer from defective vision, yet you stood at the top of a flight of stairs holding your broken spectacles in one hand and your mobile phone in the other. I think in this case the liability for the injury is 100% with the employee and the employer is absolved of any responsibility. I hope your leg will heal soon Mr Lewis and that you will able to find work with another TV company, preferably one operating on the level.”


    • popeye says:

      Oh, and it’s fazes, Mr Goodall. Standards!


    • Banania says:

      Gosh, how interesting! (“Fazes”, by the way.)


  12. Guest Who says:

    So much BBC News in one headline.

    “Video of police officers beating a black man in Paris left the president visibly upset, an official said.”


    • Guest Who says:

      Remember when folk had their hands blown off by rubber bullets?


      The BBC certainly looked the other way.

      And the Presidential visage was serene as ever.

      Maybe Ms. Spring could check?


    • JimS says:

      Isn’t Macron working to stop that sort of thing happening again?

      (Just make it illegal to film!)


    • Banania says:

      Poor dear!


  13. Guest Who says:

    Like you gotta ask.


    • Doobster78 says:

      Spot on reply

      Fan Marcus Greatorex added: “It’s just an old term. The BBC should pay more attention to songs on their stations promoting knife crime and drug use.”


    • Sluff says:

      Total hypocrisy of the worst order.
      ‘Handbags’ is used in Rugby matches all the time. On BBC broadcasts by the likes of the great Brian Moore, who usually calls a spade a spade. And was a lawyer.


    • Donbob says:

      This is an standard left wing tactic – harsh punishment for the most minor infraction ( or perceived infraction ) plus anonymity for the denouncer. Uncle Joe would thoroughly approve.


      • Fedup2 says:

        This is very good news – a nice file being composed of BBC censorship

        Land of Hope And Glory
        Fairy tale of New York
        Football ‘handbags ‘

        That’s in a month – public news – keep it up BBC


  14. Guest Who says:

    Seems more like a simple crisis created by screwing up, royally, corporation wide, constantly, without accountability or any grasp of self awareness.


    • Donbob says:

      I would love to see BBC viewing figures broken down by region (Islington could have it’s own). I suspect they would confirm how little geographical reach the “most trusted” has.


  15. Sluff says:

    Yes, yes, yes. Gotcha.

    Proven BBC bias on, of all things, Reality Check.
    Ha ha ha. Of course actual reality and BBC reality are not the same.
    Bear with me a little.

    A few days ago, the BBC went in to full rant mode over the likely so-called pay freeze in the public sector. Earnings are more than the private sector. So the BBC chose to do a reality check to try and rubbish the statement. Here it is.


    They contort to show that really public and private sector pay are the same. And show a graph. It’s from the IFS, another beauty.


    But in tiny writing on the y axis graph label, i.e. 90%+% of normal folk wouldn’t read it, and to ensure that – it’s written at right angles, it states ‘excluding pensions’.

    Only In the very final paragraph do they mention pensions which they then claim are not really that advantageous, and anyway the differences have been coming down, blah blah blah.

    Meanwhile……payments from schools into the Teachers Pension scheme are 23% of salary. Any up to date Academy School annual accounts will show that. One quarter of pay!!!! And those pensions are rock solid safe. And guaranteed. And free from stock market ups and downs. No ‘Philip Green’ issues for them.

    In the private sector you are lucky to get 7%. Miss S. gets 4%. Plus all of the above uncertainties.

    The biased BBC love the public sector and hate the private sector. They clearly need to introduce a reality check facility to check…..errrr……….their own reality check!


  16. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Well, there’s (another) thing …

    The BBC have been keen to spread the message that human beings and CO2 and methane and CFCs are killing the planet, melting all the ice and killing the wildlife and natural world. This, in overall terms, is complete nonsense and is very ignorant.

    Another ‘extinct species’ has been discovered I am told on the programme this morning. Not seen for 100 years. Were people looking or were they glued to their phones and iPads? Thought to have been extinct. Aah! Wrongthink.

    I am losing count of how many new species and possibly ‘extinct’ species have been discovered in this year of world Pandemic and lockdowns. What would it be like when people are more free to go and look for things?


  17. Guest Who says:

    Likely now between Jo Brand, Sue Perkins, Paul Mason and Dawn Butler


  18. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – The BBC are not following the Guardian’s lead?

    Having played a part in getting Dominic Cummings (resigned) sacked, the Guardian is now turning its fire on Rishi Sunak. I expect the Far Left/Extreme Socialist Daily Mirror to join in with other print media titles joing in as and when.

    It was highly notable that the TOADY programme did not follow the Guardian’s lead in their newspaper reviews. Complete silence on the subject.

    Now, there is a thing!


  19. richard D says:

    “Without any evidence” – the phrase constantly applied by the BBC to every sentence uttered by President Trump of the USA on the subject of voter fraud (for which, of course, there is clear evidence) – but completely omitted from the claim by President Rouhani of Iran that Israel is responsible for the assassination of the head of the Iranian nuclear (warhead ?) programme – for which absolutely no evidence whatsoever has apparently been presented thus far.

    BBC – impartial ? – to the core, obviously.


    • JohnC says:

      lol – you beat me to it by 4 minutes richard !. If it involved Trump, the headline would be
      “Iran blame Israel for killing nuclear scientist without giving any evidence”.
      Such blatant double standards.


    • G says:

      In reference, let’s just reverse it for the BBC: ‘What is their evidence to claim there is no evidence to show the US election was mainly fraudulent’.


  20. StewGreen says:

    Anti-lockdown Ivor Cummins

    Made the point that China probably has much more natural resistance from exposure to previous coronaviruses.
    A thing that neither China journo in yesterday’s Jeremy Vine show thought of
    They both maintained that Chinese are just super disciplined
    … I’m used to seeing rubbish dropped in China.


  21. StewGreen says:

    BBC Local news “Gove says hospitals will be overwhelmed if MPs vote against tier system”


  22. Guest Who says:

    No HIGNFY Xmas special slot for him.


  23. G says:

    “Spain, Italy, Greece and Malta join forces to reject the EU migration pact”

    Naturally, our “Worlds Most Trusted Broadcaster” will not mention this “No Evidence” news………


  24. AsISeeIt says:

    Naturally the newspaper formerly known as the Thunderer, now a barely perceptible breeze when it comes to expressing public outrage, the Times, swallows Gove’s malarkey hook line and sinker: ‘Support us on curbs or Covid will swamp NHS. Michael Gove issues stark warning to rebel MPs’

    Frankly, I’m underwhelmed by Michael Gove’s claims the NHS could be overwhelmed without this new tier system. What about those mothballed Nightingale popup hospitals they frightened us with last time around. Were they just Potemkin villages of canvas and tubular steel, cheap stage sets to convince the gullible.

    You’ll remember, back in the Spring, without the thretened avalanche of casulties the NHS appeared not unlike an episode of the TV comedy M*A*S*H – without any extras to play the part of patients – just the regulars mucking around and practising their dances for TikTok. The only question seems to be one of has this all been a conspiracy of misdirection, or are our leaders simply directionless? I guess from a government that’s about to put Mary Seacole, a part-black catering manager on our ten pound note whilst telling us at the same time that she was a nurse (which she wasn’t) and, by the way, don’t use cash, we’re phasing it out because it’s dirty and infectious… as I say, misdirection or directionless, take your pick?

    Maybe the real NHS scare is that the million odd staff will soon be so busy playing doctors and nurses, jabbing one another with their first dibs on the vaccine, they really will be too busy to see any patients. The Guardian reminds us: ‘Hospitals told: get set for vaccine in 10 days time’

    I guess us potential NHS patients can console ourselves with a: ‘Free £1 Health Lottery ticket’ – frontpage of the Daily Star. The dream would be have a big win and you can go private.

    ‘Tiers till Easter, says PM’ (The Sun)

    There’s not much that the Iranian mullahs don’t blame on the jews: ‘Iran blames Israel for nuclear expert’s death’ (Telgraph) – this time I’m guessing they’re correct.

    You have to wonder whose side the ‘i’ is on: ‘Assassinated. Father of Iran’s nuclear bomb’

    Covid restrictions and Amazon deliveries may have co-conspired to kill retail shopping but our media can ignore all that because they have their bad guy: ‘No shame. As Sir Phillp Green’s high street empire stands on the brink of collapse and 15,000 people fear for their jobs… the tycoon plans a Christmas getaway at £30,000-a-night luxury resort’ – that’s quite some Airbnb.

    There’s mixed messages apparently leaking out from the Brexit talks. The Telegraph has: ‘EU ready to to concede on Brexit fishing rights’ – however, the FT has the opposite: ‘Britain rejects “derisory” EU fishing offer as deadline looms for trade talks’

    Should we choose our favoured line on this and – to coin a phase – shallow it hook line and sinker? Or maybe conclude the press are making stuff up? Codswallop!

    You have to smile when our cultural elite feel they have to take a sudden interest in football. The FT has put Janan Ganesh, writer and political commentator, onto their obit: ‘The meaning of Maradona’, whilst the Guardian has Asif Kapadia, BAFTA and Cannes film denison, on the job: ‘The Diego Maradona I knew’

    Perhaps when Simon Rattle kicks the bucket they’ll draft in Alan Shearer. “Whey man, it were ma bestest eva feelin in’t whole world, seeing the lad gannin over t’play for’t Berlin Philharmonic like, dinnae tell the missus, like”

    Mind you, I still haven’t got over the ‘i’ drafting in David “Mastermind” Lammy to review Harvard Law School’s Barack Obama’s latest autobiography. Like asking the class dunce to mark the professor’s homework – ‘cos he is black.

    The Guardian perhaps senses Boris’s premiership is already holed beneath the waterline and so turn their guns on Rishi: ‘Sunak faces questions over family’s fortune’

    My question here is how on earth does one adequately represent in words that fanatstic-sounding “uh-uh” noise they played on the Family Fortunes TV quiz game when a contestant gave an incorrect answer. If that sound effect were used on Mastermind our poor David Lammy MP would have it ringing in his ears to this day.


  25. Jeff says:

    We’re shortly going to find out just what all those disgruntled Tory MPs are actually made of.
    Unfortunately I think we’ll discover it’s not very much…

    The Great Re-set is no longer a lunatic conspiracy, it’s well under way.
    If you needed any further proof, Boris’s unwanted and lunatic declarations of Green fanaticism of a week ago, should have convinced you. Just when we needed a decisive leader, like Churchill or Thatcher, we got Carolyn bloody Lucas.

    No one, other that The Guardian, Greta and the BBC, is remotely interested in green cars and bloody windmills. We’re haemorrhaging jobs. Our civil liberties have disappeared. Our economy is in the middle of an earthquake. And bonkers initiates a lot green cobblers written by Carrie and XR…
    God, what a feeble, incompetent, pathetic wimp.

    We’re told that there’s a “Tory rebellion” in the offing. I really hope so, but…

    I’m afraid I just don’t think it’s going to happen. Most of them, with a few honourable exceptions, are a bunch of chinless wonders. For the most part they’re career politicians.
    They’re far more interested in sucking up to the leader and promoting their parliamentary jobs than saving your job and our way of life.

    So sadly, we’re going to be kept in an open prison at least until Easter. And then, if we’re good and obedient little proles, he’s promised us our freedom.

    And if you believe that…


  26. Guest Who says:

    Must. Resist. Adding. New. Options.


  27. Guest Who says:

    Guest Who is utterly transfizzzzzzzz….


  28. tarien says:

    So a Lord something or other has commented that people are not social distancing as advised-are we surprised? Of course not, we are all more than fed up with the shambolic directions coming out from the government and most definitely very concerned with the dulicity/lies being thrown at us. Lockdowns have little effect other than keeping the virus away from the populace until said lockdown is eased, when the virus will then re-emerge-it doesn’t have any regard for what resitance we humans might take against it. I think it is now clear to most that the lockdowns and mask rules are a bigger threat to them/us than Covid. The other big threat is from public officals and the power of the big Phama that have blocked possible known cures and decried the use of natural supplements to help the immune system. Covid19 as a threat is being kept alive to serve other harmful purposes as Covid eventually subsides as a threat, the increased powers of government over citizens will remain. No mention of this or anything like it will come from the BBC or other such media organisations, they are all controlled by those who control our government. Not a happy future in sight just now.


  29. digg says:

    A reliable source tells me that the Walt Disney Corporation are bleeding cash and teetering on the brink of bankruptcy with up to 28,000 staff being fired.


    In part of course due to Covid restrictions but also largely down to families voting with their wallet against the recent waves of LGBT and Gender Ideology that Disney’s executives have been ruthlessly injecting into their production content targeted at children such as gay pride events at their venues and LGBT lead characters popping up on Pixar…



    Apparently a recent petition delivered to their chairman protesting against their ideology gathered 1.1 million signatures!

    So, as with the BBC it is cash starvation that might bring them to their senses eventually.


  30. Red Pill says:

    Apologies if already covered:
    “Covid: People in tier two ‘will have to leave pub after meal'” – https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55109932. Very factual, not a glimmer of challenging the logic of it, or reporting on how it’ll be the final nail in the coffin for many, many pubs. You know, the sort of stuff they give to anything they disagree with.

    Now, I wonder how long I can push a pea around a plate for?


  31. Doobster78 says:

    BBC over the moon that the corrupt officials in Pennsylvania have blocked Trumps appeal.

    Again making sure we know that’s it’s , Biden won !!!!

    But it isn’t is it BBC !!!! A long way to go yet as MORE evidence mounts up every day !!!! You know, the bits the BBC try to NOT to tell us about.

    Trumps lawyer – On to SCOTUS!” wrote Jenna Ellis, a Trump campaign attorney, on Twitter after the ruling, referring to a planned appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. “The activist judicial machinery in Pennsylvania continues to cover up the allegations of massive fraud.”


  32. Concrete sea says:

    Another headline today
    More than 2.5 million vulnerable people in England will be offered free Vitamin D supplements this winter. There is no evidence that it keeps Covid at bay.
    What a chance missed for an aspiring sportsperson or ‘entertainment star’ (preferably of a certain persuasion) to have started a campaign a few months ago. Boris would have said ‘no’ and a game of table tennis could have commenced over the next few months to keep us entertained, with a couple of petitions for good measure. After concerted ‘media’ pressure free multi vitamin collection points could be established countrywide and Boris would eventually cave in. An honour would surely arrive, with a doctorate and freedom of somewhere thrown in followed by grovelling apologies by those who contested the idea and a Beeb drama or documentary at least, proving beyond all doubt a minority group had once again been targeted.


    • G says:

      “There is no evidence that it keeps Covid at bay.”

      Suggest you visit Dr John Campbell’s website (UK) and US MedCram and search on Vit D (& Zinc)


      • Concrete sea says:

        Apologies. I made the fatal mistake of quoting the Beeb. I thought I had read otherwise elsewhere.


    • Fedup2 says:

      It was on,y a matter of time that the freak Scandinavian teenager was replaced by a newer version Who Can Do No Wrong …..


    • Sluff says:

      For ‘aspiring sports person’ or ‘entertainment star’ you of course mean ‘management and publicity agency of aspiring sports person……’


  33. vlad says:

    The BBC, like the rest of the biased media, have decided the US election is a done deal. They’ve removed the ‘US election’ tab on their Home page, and are now focusing on promoting crooked Biden and his team.

    However, important developments continue on the legal front, which the beeb won’t tell you about.


  34. Fedup2 says:

    As predicted – in the face of growing discontent amongst the public and red Tory MPs – government ministers are using the ‘overwhelmed NHS ‘ line again …

    Not sure it will work so well this time around ….

    The next ‘biggee’ will be ‘who get the vaccine first ?” = I’m guessing those with poor hygiene habits will be top of the list ….
    But plenty for MSM to bitch about …


  35. richard D says:

    I usually have very little time indeed for Mark Drakeford, First Minister in Wales, but I absolutely give him the utmost credit for something he said on the Today programme a week or so ago. It’s been true from the start of this pandemic, it’s true today, and it will be true until we get rid of this scourge.

    He simply said (and I paraphrase), ‘…there are only two factors in play here – there’s Government guidance (whether it be rules, the application of the law, even the simple utterance of common sense), and there’s personal behaviour – and quite frankly, no matter what the government says or does, it all comes down to how we in this country behave. A simple truth. Forget ‘confusion’, or any other excuse for not behaving – it’s simply people deciding that they don’t give a toss if anything might impair their personal desires or preferences.

    And the media, especially the BBC, have been complicit in trying to ensure that we don’t behave, constantly promoting inappropriate behaviour. For example, this morning, on the Today programme, a beeboid interviewed a number of people from various parts who believed the Tier rules shouldn’t apply to them – and he pushed them them to claim that they would therefore not be taking any cognisance of the Tier rules for their part of the country. Beeboid objective attained. Terrific example of condoning such behaviour.

    Furthermore, unlike Mark Drakeford, woe betide any government minister who ever tries to put forward the same argument he did – he/she would be immediately tarred with the brush of ‘blaming the people’. No beeboid said a word whilst they were also getting criticism of the UK Government from the Welsh FM


    • Fedup2 says:

      Richard – like so many areas of life ‘personal responsibility ‘ doesn’t really feature in the covid saga – it’s always someone else’s fault ‘ responsibility .the notable exception being Care Homes – where the people in them are basically trapped . I note , for the purposes of counter criticism , that there probably are really good care homes …..

      The simple stuff like washing hand for 15 seconds with soap doesn’t seem to get driven home … maybe they should get some celebrities to show how to do it …..


    • Banania says:

      Perhaps I misread your comment, but I have the impression that you agree that we ought to “behave” and do as we are told; in which case I emphatically disagree.


  36. richard D says:

    BBC two-faced, or what ? Two or three weeks ago, it was mooted that certain parts of Greater Manchester had nothing like the coronovirus problems that some other parts had. Cue the BBC giving Andy Burnham (and others) every opportunity to bash ther government and MPs of a certain other party from these areas for even thinking about stepping outside his realm of authority – and therefore out of the tier of Coviud restrictions. Today, in Kent and elsewhere, cue the BBC highlighting and promoting the screams of those in certain parts of a county for being lumped in with other parts of the same county.

    The BBC continues to promote any side of the argument, and sometimes both in a short space of time, where criticism of the governmment can be garnered. Bluddy partial hypocrites


  37. richard D says:

    BBC impartiality…..

    Following the usual trend, the BBC Today programme, this morning, had both sides of the Brexit debate.

    First Katya Adler, then an MEP (he could have been from anywhere in Europe, mdidn’t matter – all that mattered was that he was against Brexit).

    So there you have it, arguments from both sides….. of the North Sea. Two Brexit-haters . What could be more impartial ?


  38. Fedup2 says:

    The killing of an Iranian nuclear scientist doesn’t seem to have the ‘no evidence ‘ prefix attached to it when Israel is credited / blamed for it . Funny that . I fear that evil outfits like Iran will use the arrival of crooked Biden – if it happens – as an opportunity to further disrupt the Middle East – maybe they – or North Korea will time a test for him – or whoever is really running the befuddled old boy …


  39. Doobster78 says:



  40. Sluff says:

    OT but a prediction.

    There is some fairly low level discussion about the likely priority list for those to get a CV vaccination. But soon it will be announced and later delivery will start.

    My prediction is howls of self righteous BBC indignation as to the relative order of priority and then as they search around to dredge up anyone who apparently has jumped the queue (out of a 65 million population, certain to happen).

    My other prediction and equally fear, is that the government will bend over backwards to be seen to be ensuring this does not happen – at huge cost and inefficiency.

    I am reminded of the lifeboats at the sinking of the Titanic when many were initially launched only partly full. ‘Women and children only’. Or ‘women and children first’. And different sailors interpreted ‘first’ very differently, in essence meaning ‘only’.

    What is the betting that the government operate a similar strict taxi rank system. Care home workers. Then care home residents. Then NHS workers. Etc etc etc.

    As anyone who has ever dealt with a manufacturing order backlog will tell you, taxi rank order is not the most efficient or effective and results in every single order being late.

    The solution in simple terms is a blended approach, working on the backlog at a range of order points. Some may even get their orders on time. It may be ‘unfair’ but overall its faster and more productive. How many in government, the civil service, and the NHS have the wit to consider this?

    And with snowflakes, the BBC and LeftMob eager to pounce on any perceived unfairness and especially if related to enhancing economic activity, my fear is we will have another screw-up rather than an optimal delivery. Rather a factor don’t you think when the Pfizer vaccine has only a 5 day shelf-life at fridge temperature? Will they throw it away unused rather than give it to someone standing in front of them but in the wrong priority group, just to be ‘fair’?


  41. BRISSLES says:

    Did someone on here mention an African/American nativity ?



  42. StewGreen says:

    Their bubbleworld : The news basically led with the narrative that MPs MUST vote Yes to the Tier system
    ..then the voice of Neil Ferguson was brought on.


  43. StewGreen says:

    Their bubbleworld : Horatio Clare ended Fooc by saying
    “The election of Joe Biden failed to grip France as it gripped Britain
    .. that is a prepostous assertion
    Maybe it applies to his Islington bubbleworld

    Oh he’s giving a talk ..and Global Warming is a tag


    • StewGreen says:

      I see he liked last weeks chosen programme graphic


  44. StewGreen says:

    yet again BBC choose black faces for their programme graphics
    #WhiteManBad is their rule


    • Banania says:

      It is quite a shock to go out into the street and see white people. The BBC must be succeeding in changing my outlook.


  45. Dobyns says:

    The Woke bBc

    AYFKM ????


    • BRISSLES says:

      I remember my late husband sauntering into the pub to meet his mates at the bar and saying “whose round is it ladies ?”. Would he get away with that now ? And I’ve lost count at the times I referred to a male friend/colleague as a “big girls blouse” (aka Hilda Baker)
      or “you tart”.

      Honest to God where will it end ?


      • Fedup2 says:

        Lifeless humourless empty silence .


      • Roland Deschain says:

        He probably would get away with it. The worse sin would be to challenge your late husband and find they’d misgendered his friends by assuming they were men.


  46. Docmarooned says:

    Oh the delights of the BBC. An afternoon of bloody snooker. Does anyone even watch this crap any more. Still at least its not wimmins football I suppose. How about women of colour mud wrestling?


  47. Solomon Grundy says:

    I like the snooker. I watched yesterday’s match on Eurosport: Judd Trump v Paul Davison.

    There was an electronic scoreboard failure. The scoreboard, was I believe, supplied by Dominion.

    When it was turned back on, Davison was found to have won the best of eleven match 13 frames to 2, having compiled the first ever 179 break in the final frame.

    There is no evidence of foul play.


  48. Fedup2 says:

    I suppose they asked the referee to check the number and he did …. ( like recounting dodgy ballots )

    Meanwhile -Owen Jones – a year after what is turning into a lost one – seems to have missed how much of the Far Left agenda was dismissed by the electorate .

    He writes in the Guardian about the near future – vaccine – life returning – mass unemployment- public disorder – the usual lefty dream …
    …. its an entertaining read and give heart to people like me who want to see The Left split and split to become a liberal club –
    ..,,, but still dreaming of a Right Wing Government – which would be ending the BBC …


    • Northern Voter says:

      I also watched the snooker, Mrs Voter went for a walk and I commandeered the remote. What got me was the fact that the Bloody BBC had replaced Hazel Irvine with some Sub continent tart called Seemla Jawals. Then up pops Radzi Chinstrappenguin. Do they ever watch the programmes they are putting out? There are no black or subcontinent snooker players, they are all white or Chinese with the odd Thai thrown in. It really gets up my snotter.

      Still fits their remit to throw the effnicks at us any chance they get.


  49. Red Pill says:

    Missed this one (it’s just reappeared as a ‘top story’, so I assume it didn’t get enough hits first time round):
    “From Selfies to School Uniform: How We Got Shamed” – https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/43xVfmDbqtlsl17LVF4lr4B/from-selfies-to-school-uniform-how-we-got-shamed

    More proof from the BBC that men are vile perpetrators and women are angelic victims.